Re: PESO - Jump
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.16 skrev William Robb: > > - Original Message - > From: "Keith McGuinness" > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > > I stopped looking at anything from Dag ages ago because he is an > asshole in > this regard. > > William Robb And that, of course, is what you have to do. The responsibility is on your side, and as you never can know what is in the other end of an internet link you have to be extremely careful. Maybe I´ll put the text "Safe for William Robb and others" if I want you to have a look .-) DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Good point .-) I never have the time to follow this list at work... DagT Den 19. jul. 2006 kl. 11.01 skrev David Savage: > Shouldn't you be working instead of browsing the PDML? > > > > Dave (at work) > > On 7/19/06, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I agree that it's a beautiful photo of an innocent child. But that >> being said, I don't want to lose my job. So a warning would be nice. >> "Not Office Friendly" is a common and effective one. >> Paul > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)
Indignant? demeaning? surely not. Certainly no intention. 8^\ As I said, it's your photo and if you're satisfied with it, life is good. I've never heard *anyone* refer to Photoshop tools as '"enhancement" and its submenus' before! The metaphor of that language simply doesn't make any sense to me at all. I'm used to a somewhat more specific vocabulary referring to Photoshop. Sorry if that sounded disrespectful. G On Jul 19, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > They are, of course, Photoshop tool references. > I tried to respect your ideas and give validity while explaining why I > rendered it as I did. > You sound a bit indignant and your tone demeaning. > Surprises me. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > different, not only the customs. Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and how much do we know about other countries? In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was I supposed to know, or understand, that? DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
But...is it possible to correct perspecive without distorting other parts of the picture? I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the building doors are squashed vertically. Is there another way to do it? Thanks, Jaume --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > It looks as though you've squashed it a little > vertically > in the process of correcting the perspective. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian > Walters wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the > sandstone walls of > > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it > suffered from > > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting > the perspective. > > > > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done > better. > > > > The adjusted image is at the top of the following > link page and the > > original image is at the bottom: > > > > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > > > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical > details available by > > clicking the "i" icon. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > Brian Walters > > Western Sydney, Australia > > > > > > > > > -- > > Get a spam free email account - Visit > http://www.bluebottle.com > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PEOW: Another GBH Portrait
I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing. That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter. The full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and suggestions are helpful. Thanks, JayT http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Zigview Digital Finder Accessory at KEH
> Just what the subject says. For anyone interested look under Pentax > Digital Finder accessories. I think we've discussed this gadget here before. I like the idea somewhat, but it costs more than I'm willing to pay. I once thought about building my own variant based on a broken digicam. I'm still thinking about it, but I've never got around to actually trying to do it... - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: two more
Jostein Øksne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fotosight.ru refuse to show me the second image, but I really liked > the first one. The second has turned out to be such a flop that I've decided to replace it by this one: http://www.photosight.ru/photo.php?photoid=1544630 Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan. 10, 2005 Contarex - Kiev 60 - Horizon 202 - P6 mount lenses -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait
Jay Taylor wrote: > I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since > I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing. > That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away > from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images > captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter. The > full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web > resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at > an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and > suggestions are helpful. > > Thanks, > JayT > http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg > It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and cranes. They just look all wrong. :-) -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
Op Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:52:08 +0200 schreef Jaume Lahuerta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > But...is it possible to correct perspecive without > distorting other parts of the picture? Actually, the perspective is correct in the original picture, I think? The low point-of view results in a vanishing point for the vertical lines, nothing to do about it... > I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the > perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the > building doors are squashed vertically. > > Is there another way to do it? You could stretch it vertically afterwards. I think you have to eyeball it, which might be hard... Leaving in some convergence on the verticals tends to result in a more natuaral-looking picture in my experience as well. > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > >> >> It looks as though you've squashed it a little >> vertically >> in the process of correcting the perspective. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian >> Walters wrote: >> > Hi all >> > >> > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the >> sandstone walls of >> > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it >> suffered from >> > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting >> the perspective. >> > >> > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done >> better. >> > >> > The adjusted image is at the top of the following >> link page and the >> > original image is at the bottom: >> > >> > >> > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html >> > >> > >> > >> > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical >> details available by >> > clicking the "i" icon. -- Regards, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
You can ask. DagT wrote: >Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > > > >>I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've >>got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be >>different, not only the customs. >> >> > >Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know >about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and >how much do we know about other countries? > >In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may >remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against >showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was I supposed >to know, or understand, that? > >DagT > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Owl
In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: istDL, 200mm f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg Walt == Very, very nice shot of an owl. You can really see all the details in the feathers. I do find the brokeh in the background annoying though. I think, if it were me, I'd go into PS and blur it even more. To get rid of the circles, and conflicting colors. Maybe even change the hue in the background a bit. But you really got that guy. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll
In a message dated 7/19/2006 10:21:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be used. The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the Martian. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce === You see the darndest things out there in the world, Bruce. I thought I had a good imagination, but you have me beat by a mile. It does look like a voodoo doll. Nice shot, I like the back lighting. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On Jul 20, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Keith McGuinness wrote: > The trouble is that the laws in some places are such that you > could get charged with an offense just for looking at such a > photo, regardless of your reasons for doing so. The difficult thing about applying that to the internet is that often you have absolutely no idea what's in that email attachment, or at the other end of that URL, until after you've opened it. > In the US (which I am not) people have been charged just for > taking photos of their own children in the bath. That kind of thing is starting to happen here: http://www.starcanterbury.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm? storyid=3692452&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection= - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
I have CS and there seems to be no perspective correction filter -- only funny stuff. I think Paintshop Pro had one. Don Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > But...is it possible to correct perspecive without > distorting other parts of the picture? > > I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct the > perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the > building doors are squashed vertically. > > Is there another way to do it? > > Thanks, > Jaume > > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > >> It looks as though you've squashed it a little >> vertically >> in the process of correcting the perspective. >> >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian >> Walters wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the >>> >> sandstone walls of >> >>> an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it >>> >> suffered from >> >>> converging verticals so I had a go at correcting >>> >> the perspective. >> >>> It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done >>> >> better. >> >>> The adjusted image is at the top of the following >>> >> link page and the >> >>> original image is at the bottom: >>> >>> >>> > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > >>> >>> Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical >>> >> details available by >> >>> clicking the "i" icon. >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> >>> >>> Brian Walters >>> Western Sydney, Australia >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > -- > >>> Get a spam free email account - Visit >>> >> http://www.bluebottle.com >> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> > > > > > __ > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. > Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. > http://es.voice.yahoo.com > > -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Four Generations, One Moment
In a message dated 7/19/2006 7:47:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some of you know that both my 90 year old mother and my almost two year old granddaughter, Grace, live with me. Tonight, my granddaughter climbed up on my mother's lap and started reading a book to her. My mother has a severe osteoporosis and can't hold her head up, but she listened to every word. My granddaughter can't read of course, but she makes up some bits and pieces along the way. I ran for the camera, turned on the FA 50/1.4 and got off a couple of shots before mom couldn't hold Grace any more. The composition is poor, but the moment may never be repeated again. Paul http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4704528&size=lg Nice. Touching moment. I don't think the composition is that poor, either. Just tone down the napkin so it's not so white and you have a winner. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
I know Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: > You can ask. > > DagT wrote: > >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: >> >> >> >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be >>> different, not only the customs. >>> >>> >> >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and >> how much do we know about other countries? >> >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was I supposed >> to know, or understand, that? >> >> DagT >> >> >> > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Summer Sunset
In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-). When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/ Regards Jens === That is really lovely, Jens. I may like it best of all your panos to date. (Maybe not -- I haven't seen the one of your home town recently.) Lovely gradation of gentle, soft colors and excellent composition. You probably can tell I really like it. :-) Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Summer Sunset
Your left or our left? :) - Dave On Jul 20, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > oops - I meant the left half of the image...brain fart - sorry. > > Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 3:09:49 PM, you wrote: > > BD> Interesting...It is a sunset, but has a coolness to it, like it is > BD> rather cold outside. That aspect interests me. I looked at > several > BD> sizes of this as they were available. The small one looked pretty > BD> nice as a pano, but as I increased in size to the largest, I > didn't > BD> find that there was anything in the right half of the image > that was > BD> worth looking at. IOW, it worked just fine for me as about > half the > BD> image area, all on the right side. Hope this makes sense. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Summer Sunset
In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-). When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/ Regards Jens === After reading some others' comments, Jens, I thought I'd elaborate why I really like it. I had to click on it to see it larger, of course, the small one is too small. You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites. Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy at one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to me -- and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a person walking on the bridge to join the other two. The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was there. In other words, it is really nice. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crystal Bay Silhouette
In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:19:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems each time I decide to upload an image I recall it was shot at least a few years ago. (True of a number of things) Driving around Lake Tahoe when, suddenly, the light was "different". Next pull-off was, fortunately, where this was shot. I really just stopped to check out what was going on with the sunlight. Always felt guilty for having such "luck". Always inviting comments. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=141 === Nice. Not the best so far in your recent gem hunting, but close to it. I don't think there is a lot of luck in photography. Sure, it helps 100% to be getting out and about in pretty scenery (if doing landscapes) versus being stuck in familiar boring surroundings. But luck? Nyah, just having a good eye. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849 ??? Kostas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)
In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:50:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=143 === Very nice. The tint, surprisingly, works. Like it. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849 The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl. mike == ??? Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you mean are. That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:04:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the background is a reflection. Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Comments welcome. -- Bruce == Really nice shot of bird. He really pops. Not sure what all those wavy lines are in the brokeh, but they are really, really distracting. Looks weird too, like water or something is running through the pic. Marnie aka DoeSorry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
Downloads seem to be a trifle slow at the moment. Maybe it's very popular. 8-) > > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:15:02 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849 > > ??? > > Kostas > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
But only if you know what the question is. > > From: DagT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 08:41:31 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > I know > > Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: > > > You can ask. > > > > DagT wrote: > > > >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > >>> different, not only the customs. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know > >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and > >> how much do we know about other countries? > >> > >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may > >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against > >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was I supposed > >> to know, or understand, that? > >> > >> DagT - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: More Fungus!
In a message dated 7/18/2006 12:44:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks! Just added two more: http://www.robertstech.com/fungus.htm (The last two on the page.) -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com Nice, Mark. Worthy additions. Who ever thought fungi (?) could be so pretty. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:24:06 GMT > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp > > In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849 > > The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive > to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl. > > mike > == > ??? > > Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has > things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you > mean are. > > That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) Hmmm. I've not got the pictures on public view yet but you should be able to access them from that link. Operator error again, no doubt. I'll set them up for public access and post again. My apologies. m - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Owl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 5:54:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > istDL, 200mm f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg > > Walt > == > Very, very nice shot of an owl. You can really see all the details in the > feathers. > > I do find the brokeh in the background annoying though. I think, if it were > me, I'd go into PS and blur it even more. To get rid of the circles, and > conflicting colors. Maybe even change the hue in the background a bit. I agree -- really nice -- but for me the background is too light. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
David Mann wrote: > That kind of thing is starting to happen here: > http://www.starcanterbury.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm? > storyid=3692452&thesection=localnews&thesubsection=&thesecondsubsection= The link is incomplete but I found the story you were referring to and it is the sort of thing that is happening. It's all rather strange. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I keep feeling that I'm missing something. Godfrey === I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be. I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different and/or better? Marnie aka the clueless -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Summer Sunset
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-). > When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/ > > Regards > Jens > === > You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites. > Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy > at > one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to me -- > and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a > person walking on the bridge to join the other two. > > The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was > there. I'm agree with Marnie again. I don't think that the right is too empty. I DO think that the horizon is too central. Tricky to do anything with in this format, though. Most Danes live near the sea...that's from centuries of leaping into longboats to... 8-) Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait
Christian wrote: > Jay Taylor wrote: >> I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since >> I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing. >> That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away >> from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images >> captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter. The >> full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web >> resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at >> an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and >> suggestions are helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> JayT >> http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg >> > It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not > sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and > cranes. They just look all wrong. :-) Nicely taken; texture on feathers is great. I think the crop is too close; the heron looks squeezed in the frame. Also I think you may have overdone the blur and that makes it look a bit strange. Just IMO. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 09:24:06 GMT > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp > > In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:19:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/extra/egallery/pcat/218194/display/6191849 > > The lamb from the fields in the farm next door is still too radioactive > to sell directly to the public, due to Chernobyl. > > mike > == > ??? > > Can't find the scout camp photos, just get your general page and it has > things I've seen before, but can't pinpoint where the specific photos you > mean are. > > That sentence is too long. It's late. But you get the idea. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) Try this: http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&g=218194 Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Perspective correction side effects (WAS: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment)
It is not a filter: Menu: Edit->Transform->Perspective see: http://www.outbackphoto.com/workshop/PSPerspectiveCorrection/PhotoshopPerspectiveCorrection.html --- Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > I have CS and there seems to be no perspective > correction filter -- only > funny stuff. I think Paintshop Pro had one. > > Don > > Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > > But...is it possible to correct perspecive without > > distorting other parts of the picture? > > > > I always get the same effect as Brian, I correct > the > > perspective (with the Photoshop feature) but the > > building doors are squashed vertically. > > > > Is there another way to do it? > > > > Thanks, > > Jaume > > > > --- John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > > > > >> It looks as though you've squashed it a little > >> vertically > >> in the process of correcting the perspective. > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian > >> Walters wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all > >>> > >>> I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on > the > >>> > >> sandstone walls of > >> > >>> an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately > it > >>> > >> suffered from > >> > >>> converging verticals so I had a go at correcting > >>> > >> the perspective. > >> > >>> It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done > >>> > >> better. > >> > >>> The adjusted image is at the top of the > following > >>> > >> link page and the > >> > >>> original image is at the bottom: > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > >>> > >>> Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical > >>> > >> details available by > >> > >>> clicking the "i" icon. > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Brian > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Brian Walters > >>> Western Sydney, Australia > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > -- > > > >>> Get a spam free email account - Visit > >>> > >> http://www.bluebottle.com > >> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > __ > > LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. > > Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por > minuto. > > http://es.voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > > -- > Dr E D F Williams > www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ > http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ > 41660 TOIVAKKA Finland - +358400706616 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
DagT wrote: > Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > >> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've >> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be >> different, not only the customs. > > Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know > about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and > how much do we know about other countries? That's the problem with the internet and it is only going to grow (in my opinion). I'm not saying that I expect you to know US law. I don't even know all that much Australian law, let alone that from, say, Norway. What I was trying to say is that such things may not only be a matter of custom; certain activities may also actually be illegal. Consider the situation with, as I understand it, street photography in France (if I've read right, you can't take anyone's picture without their explicit permission). Also, as William Robb said, there is a large amount of latitude in the interpretation of some of these laws and for some people all nudity, just about regardless of the circumstance, is pornography. It makes people, justifiably, nervous. Keith McG -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: > Try this: > http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&g=218194 > > Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate. Thanks for sharing Mike. "Home James" is slightly disconcerting :-) Kostas (and is it a Toyota?) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 21mm on film? was Re: SV: 21mm limitted is a jewel ...
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 11:25:21 -0700, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> I'm sure the DA 21mm, unlike the DA 40mm, won't work very well for >> 35mm >> film, but has anyone tried it, just for grins? Any test shots out >> there? > >I haven't seen anything yet, Mike. The DA21 is just getting into the >market and DSLR buyers are first to the plate. The relevance of a >DA21 over an FA20 for film camera users is questionable, since >they're about the same money and evidently perform very similarly. I have not made any test shots, but I did mount the DA 21 on my MX and the LX. It shows severe vignetting with the hood (as expected), and still very noticable vignetting without it. It is a rather abrupt vignetting in all four corners, with a usable image circle of about 39 to 40 mm I would say. (would allow for a 22x33mm crop) This is as seen on the LX groundglass directly, no viewfinder mounted, and nearly closed aperture. Regards, JvW -- Jan van Wijk; http://www.dfsee.com/gallery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
Same here on my old AMD Duron 1800/ 512 RAM. Quite slow to say the least. I just hope that updateing the thumbnail will be a one-time process only, if not I'm in trouble ;) I was amazed at the size of the download... quite small really. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SFXn,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jente på plenen
> Hello Toralf, > > I can see what you mean about the expression. It does seem to kind of > hang on to you and make you keep looking. Almost like you are trying > to see what she is seeing/thinking. I like this one in B&W. Thanks > for sharing. > Glad you like it. Thanks. - Toralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
> > From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu AM 10:14:26 GMT > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > > Try this: > > http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=529253&g=218194 > > > > Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate. > > Thanks for sharing Mike. "Home James" is slightly disconcerting :-) > > Kostas (and is it a Toyota?) > No, it's a very naughty boy. In a Ford Mondeo diesel. 8-) - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PUG Deadline is today........
And I still have nothing to submit for architecture! ;-( Buncha crap, but nothing good. Between the 100 gegree days, storms and doing 2 peoples jobs there hasn't been much opportunity for photography. Still have today though, always did work better under pressure. ;-) Don -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I keep feeling that I'm missing something. > > Godfrey > === > I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be. > > I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different > and/or better? > > Marnie aka the clueless > It's designed purely for photography and integrates the basic editing with file navigation and RAW conversion rather than having to use different interfaces for everything. It also functions as an Image Management program, making it very easy to sort and tag your images. Really worth checking out, if you have enough RAM and CPU. The speed is very acceptable on my Sempron 1.8GHz with 1GB RAM (low-end Compaq box) -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Hi Don I'm using Photoshop Elements 1. I tried the "Perspective" tool but couldn't get it to look right so I ended up using the "Distort" tool. Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia Quoting Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > What program did you sue to make the correction? > > Don > > John Francis wrote: > > It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically > > in the process of correcting the perspective. > > -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Yes - I noticed that too. However, trying to stretch it vertically tends to lose the top spire. Thanks for the comment, John. Cheers Brian Brian Walters Western Sydney, Australia Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically > in the process of correcting the perspective. > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote: > > Hi all > > > > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone > walls of > > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it suffered from > > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the > perspective. > > > > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better. > > > > The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and > the > > original image is at the bottom: > > > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > > > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical details available > by > > clicking the "i" icon. -- Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT Bad behaviour
>From an entirely unrelated board. == Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped but one evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist swerved over into us and shouted "go home tourist! Hehhehehh". We both laughed but got out of the street in case he came back to challenge us to a hockey game or something. == Is there something anyone wants to tell us? - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Brian, You appear to have done a fine job at something I haven't even tried. Wonderful lighting nicely framed. Jack --- Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all > > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone walls of > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it suffered from > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the perspective. > > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better. > > The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and the > original image is at the bottom: > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical details available by > clicking the "i" icon. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney, Australia > > > > -- > Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Lonely Bull(?)
Marnie, I'm surprised each time I look at this image. It shouldn't work, but somehow does..for me also. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 4:50:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=143 > === > Very nice. The tint, surprisingly, works. > > Like it. > > Marnie aka Doe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Crystal Bay Silhouette
Marnie, Embarrassingly generous comments. Thanks so much. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 9:19:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Seems each time I decide to upload an image I recall it was shot at > least a few years ago. (True of a number of things) > Driving around Lake Tahoe when, suddenly, the light was "different". > Next pull-off was, fortunately, where this was shot. I really just > stopped to check out what was going on with the sunlight. > Always felt guilty for having such "luck". > > Always inviting comments. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=141 > === > Nice. Not the best so far in your recent gem hunting, but close to > it. > > I don't think there is a lot of luck in photography. Sure, it helps > 100% to > be getting out and about in pretty scenery (if doing landscapes) > versus being > stuck in familiar boring surroundings. > > But luck? Nyah, just having a good eye. > > Marnie aka Doe :-) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Sierra Ranch
Jens, I've wondered if that color hue is due to early spring growth. It may not be the cause, but maybe cholesterol development has a ways to go.(?) Thanks much. Jack --- Jens Bladt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very nice photograph, Jack. The colours look a little like it came > from an > old geography book - I think there's a tiny hint of yellow cast - or > what? > Regards > jens Bladt > http://www.jensbladt.dk > +45 56 63 77 11 > +45 23 43 85 77 > Skype: jensbladt248 > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af > Jack > Davis > Sendt: 17. juli 2006 04:03 > Til: pdml@pdml.net > Emne: PESO: Sierra Ranch > > > Moving on to another barn. Sierra Co, CA cabin and barn drive by shot > of a few years back. > Last barn for the time being. > Comments appreciated! > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=133 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: > 07/14/2006 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: > 07/18/2006 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Nice shot and generally good work. But the center vertical isn't quite straight. That throws it off if you're going for perfect alignment. If elements has the Edit/Free Transform tool use this to rotate the image before you correct the perspective. You might find that the perspective tool works better once the rotation is correct. If not, you can use distort. If you don't have the free transform tool, do a rotation of about 1 degree before correcting perspective. You want to make that centerline perfectly vertical. If you need to stretch it to eliminate a squat look, use the image size tool and change onlly the vertical dimension a small amount. Experiment until it looks right. Paul -- Original message -- From: Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Don > > I'm using Photoshop Elements 1. I tried the "Perspective" tool but > couldn't get it to look right so I ended up using the "Distort" > tool. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney, Australia > > > Quoting Don Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > What program did you sue to make the correction? > > > > Don > > > > John Francis wrote: > > > It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically > > > in the process of correcting the perspective. > > > > > > > > -- > Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video
In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the distributor told them that it would cost around 2000 EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom. Preview: http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599 Video: http://www.quesabesde.com/camaras-digitales/camaras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1-videos,2150.html __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Bad behaviour
On 20/7/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: >>From an entirely unrelated board. >== >Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped >but one evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist >swerved over into us and shouted "go home tourist! Hehhehehh". We >both laughed but got out of the street in case he came back to challenge >us to a hockey game or something. Did he have a ghoti beard and was he sitting on a bare seat post? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Bad behaviour
> > From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2006/07/20 Thu PM 01:35:03 GMT > To: "pentax list" > Subject: Re: OT Bad behaviour > > On 20/7/06, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >>From an entirely unrelated board. > >== > >Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped > >but one evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist > >swerved over into us and shouted "go home tourist! Hehhehehh". We > >both laughed but got out of the street in case he came back to challenge > >us to a hockey game or something. > > Did he have a ghoti beard and was he sitting on a bare seat post? > Don't know but the "Hehhehehh" does make me think of someone. If they had said that he went past in a blur, my suspicions would have been confirmed. - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
- Original Message - From: "DagT" Subject: Re: PESO - Jump And that, of course, is what you have to do. The responsibility is on your side, and as you never can know what is in the other end of an internet link you have to be extremely careful. Why don't you just say "content is of a naked child" and leave it at that? Responsibility is a two way street. Maybe I´ll put the text "Safe for William Robb and others" if I want you to have a look .-) Don't knock yourself out on my behalf, I don't look at your pictures anyway. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT Bad behaviour
Toronto is the rudest city in Canada. -Adam mike wilson wrote: >>From an entirely unrelated board. > == > Then my last observation is that in Toronto traffic generally stopped but one > evening Heather and I were crossing the road and a bicyclist swerved over > into us and shouted "go home tourist! Hehhehehh". We both laughed but > got out of the street in case he came back to challenge us to a hockey game > or something. > == > > Is there something anyone wants to tell us? > > > - > Email sent from www.ntlworld.com > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software > Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
You make me laugh! :-) Tom C. >From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Jump >Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 22:16:29 -0600 > > >- Original Message - >From: "Keith McGuinness" >Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > > > > I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > > got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > > different, not only the customs. > > > >Canadian law makes it a crime to have anything that depicts a person who is >or may be under the age of 19 in a situation that is or may be of a sexual >nature. > Since the law itself is very open to individual interpretation, it is a >bit >dangerous to have a picture of a naked child on a computer hard drive, even >if it is in a residual cache, rather than formally saved. >I really wish some of these Europeans would get it through their heads that >this kind of stuff can cause People in North America problems and not post >it without warning. >I stopped looking at anything from Dag ages ago because he is an asshole in >this regard. > >William Robb > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait
I've got to go with Christian on this one. Technically, it is excellent. It belongs in a book about Herons to help you see exactly what they look like (at least the head/neck). But aesthetically, it doesn't quite do it for me. I'd like to see the body and maybe even a small bit of surroundings. -- Bruce Thursday, July 20, 2006, 1:24:17 AM, you wrote: C> It's a really sharp image, but like the other shot a while back (not C> sure from whom), I dislike disembodied head shots of herons, egrets and C> cranes. They just look all wrong. :-) C> -- C> Christian C> http://photography.skofteland.net C> Jay Taylor wrote: >> I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since >> I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing. >> That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away >> from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images >> captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter. The >> full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web >> resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at >> an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and >> suggestions are helpful. >> >> Thanks, >> JayT >> http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Blue Heron
Yesterday I looked again at the location. It turns out there are a bunch of dead trees poking up in the middle of this pond (created by beavers). Those dead trees have no foliage or small branches on them. The pattern of their bark is what you are seeing in the reflection. For me, knowing it is bark reflection I am seeing, makes it feel a little better. In any event, when the subject is surrounded by water, you get whatever reflects in the water for the background. Sorry to make you ill . -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, July 20, 2006, 2:28:26 AM, you wrote: Eac> In a message dated 7/18/2006 9:04:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Eac> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eac> At least I think it is. This was taken on the same walk yesterday as Eac> the egrets. The odd looking patterns you see in the background are, I Eac> believe, reflections from trees and foliage. I shot from a small hill Eac> above the bird so he was entirely surrounded by water and all the Eac> background is a reflection. Eac> Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, handheld Eac> ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/6.7 Eac> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3192a.htm Eac> Comments welcome. Eac> -- Eac> Bruce Eac> == Eac> Really nice shot of bird. He really pops. Eac> Not sure what all those wavy lines are in the brokeh, but they are really, Eac> really distracting. Eac> Looks weird too, like water or something is running through the pic. Eac> Marnie aka DoeSorry. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video
As a photographer I find the web site logo offensive to me and all other photographers everywhere. ;-) Jaume Lahuerta wrote: >In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the >distributor told them that it would cost around 2000 >EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom. >Preview: >http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599 >Video: >http://www.quesabesde.com/camaras-digitales/camaras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1-videos,2150.html > > > > >__ >LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. >Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. >http://es.voice.yahoo.com > > > -- When you're worried or in doubt, Run in circles, (scream and shout). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > You make me laugh! :-) Thats probably why we are such good friends. b... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll
Wonderful lighting. It really makes this shot special. On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be > used. The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the > Martian. > > Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld > ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm > > Comments welcome. > > -- > Bruce > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Water Warp
Very interesting and captivating. . . On 7/14/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4682145 > > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Owl
I really love this shot. What an expression. Thanks for sharing it with us. On 7/19/06, Walter Hamler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > istDL, 200mm f/4 SMC, iso 800. The image is cropped about 50%. > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/IMGP24115x7cropweb.jpg > > Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll
Thanks - lighting does play a pretty critical role in this shot - different lighting and there would be nothing but an ugly piece of vegetation. -- Bruce Thursday, July 20, 2006, 9:17:26 AM, you wrote: DJM> Wonderful lighting. It really makes this shot special. DJM> On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be >> used. The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the >> Martian. >> >> Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld >> ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 >> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> -- >> Bruce >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Water Warp
Thanks Dan. Glad you enjoyed it. Tom C. >From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: PESO - Water Warp >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 11:31:55 -0500 > >Very interesting and captivating. . . > >On 7/14/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4682145 > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Susquehenna
Thanks, Bruce. I took a few exposures of this scene and one of them does not include the left bank. I actually like having a bit of the left bank in the scene. I do agree with your assessment of the sky and will try to crop it out soon. Thanks for looking and commenting. Much appreciated. On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Scott, > > I mostly like it. The issues can be most dealt with in a crop. I > find the left bank to be of no value to the picture, and the left side > of the sky kind of hazes out. So I would crop the left side off. > Also the sky is not really very strong and doesn't need that much > showing. So I would crop some off the top. I tried it here and feel > the picture is much stronger that way. > > I like the angle and colors that you have portrayed here - a little > more work on the image and it could be quite good. > > -- > Bruce > > > Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 9:42:19 AM, you wrote: > > SL> http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > SL> Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom, > SL> Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few photos with a > SL> polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated. > > SL> -- > SL> Scott Loveless > SL> http://www.twosixteen.com > SL> Shoot more film! > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Susquehenna
I don't necessarily disagree, Jack. I'll give it a shot over the next day or so and see. Thanks so much for the comments. On 7/19/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like it. Can imagine the scene in the Fall with placid river > reflections. > While I like seeing all of the far right tree, I'd probably wind up > either cropping off or cloning out the rather bright building. > Thanks for the peek. > > Jack > > --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > > > Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom, > > Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few photos with a > > polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated. > > > > -- > > Scott Loveless > > http://www.twosixteen.com > > Shoot more film! > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Susquehenna
Thanks, Paul. I like the left bank, too. See my reply to Bruce. Thanks, again! On 7/19/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I like this. Peaceful and pleasant. I wouldn't crop out the left bank. It > establishes that this is a river, rather than just the shore of a lake or > pond. I would burn in the sky on the left side of frame, and I would crop a > little off the top as Bruce suggested below. > Paul > -- Original message -- > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hello Scott, > > > > I mostly like it. The issues can be most dealt with in a crop. I > > find the left bank to be of no value to the picture, and the left side > > of the sky kind of hazes out. So I would crop the left side off. > > Also the sky is not really very strong and doesn't need that much > > showing. So I would crop some off the top. I tried it here and feel > > the picture is much stronger that way. > > > > I like the angle and colors that you have portrayed here - a little > > more work on the image and it could be quite good. > > > > -- > > Bruce > > > > > > Wednesday, July 19, 2006, 9:42:19 AM, you wrote: > > > > SL> > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > > > SL> Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom, > > SL> Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few photos with a > > SL> polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated. > > > > SL> -- > > SL> Scott Loveless > > SL> http://www.twosixteen.com > > SL> Shoot more film! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Re: PESO - Susquehenna
Thanks, Ken. I'll bring mine along next time and have the wife paddle out into the middle. On 7/19/06, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, it leaves me asking is that all? > I'm expecting more but its not there. > Needs a red canoe or such. > > Kenneth Waller > > > - Original Message - > From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - Susquehenna > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > > > Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom, > > Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few photos with a > > polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated. > > > > -- > > Scott Loveless > > http://www.twosixteen.com > > Shoot more film! > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Susquehenna
Thanks, Frank! Glad you like it. On 7/19/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/19/06, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > > > Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, 28-80 power zoom, > > Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few photos with a > > polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly appreciated. > > That's beautiful, Scott. > > cheers, > frank > > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 05:38:54AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I keep feeling that I'm missing something. > > Godfrey > === > I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be. > > I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to be different > and/or better? > o It has an integrated image management system that is greatly superior to anything in Elements (ability to create collections of images from various shoots, to rate images and to only show images above a certain rating, to tag and sort based on keywords, etc., etc.) And while it is quite able to create and maintain an image library for you (including converting to DNG while importing, if you so choose) it will also work with your images in their original folders if that's how you prefer to operate. o The RAW conversion is far more powerful than that in Elements (although perhaps not quite as flexible as that in CS or CS2), and includes curves, lens profiles & camera profiles, plus a whole lot of other features I haven't played with to date. o It's not an image editor (so no healing brush, layers, etc.). In fact it never creates a new image file (unless you tell it to do so) - it just stores the history of the adjustments you make to the image, and applies them when you select the image. The one big drawback I see, at present, is that if an image is in multiple collections then these are all references to the exact same set of adjustments - there's no way to have both a colour original and a B&W conversion in separate galleries. Adobe know this is a limitation, and will address this in a future release. Lightroom is supposed to be your primary interface to digital imaging. It deals with importing and catalogueing your images (including sorting, classifying and selecting those images that you want to work on). It also deals with adjustments you make to the whole image (white balance, exposure, black point, white point, brightness, contrast, ...), rotation and cropping. For many people this is all they will need for a first print (or export to web). To go beyond this (selective touch-up on just some parts of an image, etc..) you need an image editor such as Elements, CS, CS2, or some other external program. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
>I played with it on my laptop (P4 / 1.8 / 512 / XP) for awhile this morning, >but I definitely need more RAM. This site has several short video tutes for >each module by the likes of Dave Cross, Scott Kelby, and Matt Kloskowski: >http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom/library.html >Lou More Tutorials and info here: NAPP's Adobe Lightroom Learning Center http://www.photoshopuser.com/lightroom Powell -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Voodoo Doll
What Dan said. Great light. Excellent composition as well. Paul -- Original message -- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wonderful lighting. It really makes this shot special. > > On 7/19/06, Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This shot just brings to mind a voodoo doll just made and ready to be > > used. The other strange thought that came to me was Marvin the > > Martian. > > > > Pentax *istD, Tokina AT-X SD 400/5.6, Handheld > > ISO 200, 1/750 sec @ f/5.6 > > > > http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_3177a.htm > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > -- > > Bruce > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: An exercise in perspective adjustment
Either one is fine with me. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment > Hi all > > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone walls of > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it suffered from > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the perspective. > > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better. > > The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and the > original image is at the bottom: > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical details available by > clicking the "i" icon. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney, Australia > > > > -- > Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Another GBH Portrait
As posted I have several issues with this one. The bill touching the RH edge looks like a mistake, it needs to have more separation from the edge. The intersection of the bill with that thingy in the background is unfortunate as it draws my eye to it. Focus & exposure looks right on, although it appears a little dark IMHO on my calibrated monitor. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Jay Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 3:45 AM Subject: PEOW: Another GBH Portrait >I have not been able to get out and do much shooting as of late since > I'm busy trying to move into a new home my wife and I are purchasing. > That coupled with the start of Salmon fishing season has kept me away > from my camera. This is another of my Great Blue Heron images > captured with the *istDL and the FA*300 f4.5 + F1.7X adapter. The > full res image looked pretty awesome on this shot. For this web > resized version I experimented with blurring the background more at > an attempt to create a more pleasing bokeh. As always comments and > suggestions are helpful. > > Thanks, > JayT > http://i.pbase.com/o4/87/63987/1/63808751.VbQd49L0.GBHPortrait3.jpg > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
On 7/20/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm > > > Tom C. Tom, Thanks for that link. It was spooky reading it, "hearing" phrases that (I didn't realize) were etched in my memory. "Houston, Tranquility Base Here; the Eagle has Landed." We broke into cheers when we heard that one. "That was one small step step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." I told my father that was pretty good thinking, then he told me he was pretty sure that Neil had made it up ahead of time. I was 12 years old, and it seemed that we'd spent the whole summer in front of our TV, a little black and white "portable" job. We didn't have cable yet, the picture was fuzzy (which was okay, because the broadcasts from the moon were pretty fuzzy anyway, and even then, I liked fuzzy ), but the whole family sat in front of that little TV in our playroom, watching intently. What now amazes me about that whole mission is the fact that it actually got there and back. Some four or five years ago, I read that all those banks of computers with the flashing lights and winding spools of magnetic tape had less power than the average desktop - and that was 5 years ago! After spending the summer of 68 watching American cities burn, it was uplifting and inspiring to see mankind striving successfully for peace. These guys were my childhood heroes, the Mercury and Gemini astronauts, and landing on the moon was the culmination of that. Of course we didn't realize at the time it was all an elaborate hoax, filmed on a Hollywood backlot. For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one of those things "we never forgot" (just like where we were when we heard about JFK's assassination ). Thanks for that link, Tom! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
> You can ask. Or you can listen to those pdml'ers from that particular country. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > You can ask. > > DagT wrote: > >>Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: >> >> >> >>>I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've >>>got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be >>>different, not only the customs. >>> >>> >> >>Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know >>about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about our law, and >>how much do we know about other countries? >> >>In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may >>remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against >>showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was I supposed >>to know, or understand, that? >> >>DagT >> >> >> > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now
There's quite a good review/introduction on Luminous Landscape. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/software/lightroom1.shtml I've managed to download Lightroom for Windows and from the brief play I've had with it I think it is probably going to suit my needs quite well when it's finished. No doubt there will be some things missing or less than ideal, but it looks ok. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 20 July 2006 10:39 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: Adobe Lightroom for Windows (almost) available now > > In a message dated 7/19/2006 1:50:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I keep feeling that I'm missing something. > > Godfrey > === > I'm missing what Lightroom is supposed to be. > > I know Elements, and some of PS. How is Lightroom supposed to > be different > and/or better? > > Marnie aka the clueless > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
Ah heck Tom, we all know that was staged here on earth- Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm > > > Tom C. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: An exercise in perspective adjustment
I find trying to correct perspective in Elements a little tricky; you end up with an image that's either squashed or stretched horizontally (or, alternatively, stretched or sqashed vertically). If you think of the perspective correction as distorting your original rectangle into a trapeziod, you don't want either the base or the top of the trapezoid to stay the same; what you really want is for one of them to be stretched, and the other to be squashed, and some intermediate line (usually somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 way up the picture) to be left unchanged. You can go to great lengths to compute exactly what you want, or you can simply change the image size anisotropically (after applying perspective correction) to get an image that looks right. Resizing the image shouldn't lose any part of the contents. (And, as Paul pointed out, rotate to get your central verticals truly vertical before applying the perspective transform). I do like the colours of the light on the stone. On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 07:33:22AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote: > Yes - I noticed that too. However, trying to stretch it vertically > tends to lose the top spire. > > Thanks for the comment, John. > > > Cheers > > Brian > > > > Brian Walters > Western Sydney, Australia > > > > Quoting John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > It looks as though you've squashed it a little vertically > > in the process of correcting the perspective. > > > > On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 12:38:11AM -0500, Brian Walters wrote: > > > Hi all > > > > > > I quite liked this photo of afternoon light on the sandstone > > walls of > > > an old church in western Sydney. Unfortunately it suffered from > > > converging verticals so I had a go at correcting the > > perspective. > > > > > > It looks OK but perhaps it could have been done better. > > > > > > The adjusted image is at the top of the following link page and > > the > > > original image is at the bottom: > > > > > > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/PAW/thomas-paw.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments and suggestions welcome. Technical details available > > by > > > clicking the "i" icon. > > > > > -- > Get a spam free email account - Visit http://www.bluebottle.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
Hi Frank. I was eight years old at the time. I remember watching it on an old B&W set as well. It was a Packard-Bell 19", we didn't have color TV yet. We changed the channels with a pair of pliers. I recall my Dad telling us kids to sit down and be quiet because this was important. I love(d) the space program as well. It was the coolest thing going. It is amazing we made it there on what now looks like antique hardware. It is amazing how many people I run in to that do not believe it. Some of those additional shots of the mission were interesting too. Tom C. >From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:57:10 -0400 > >On 7/20/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm > > > > > > Tom C. > >Tom, > >Thanks for that link. It was spooky reading it, "hearing" phrases >that (I didn't realize) were etched in my memory. > >"Houston, Tranquility Base Here; the Eagle has Landed." We broke >into cheers when we heard that one. > >"That was one small step step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." >I told my father that was pretty good thinking, then he told me he was >pretty sure that Neil had made it up ahead of time. > >I was 12 years old, and it seemed that we'd spent the whole summer in >front of our TV, a little black and white "portable" job. We didn't >have cable yet, the picture was fuzzy (which was okay, because the >broadcasts from the moon were pretty fuzzy anyway, and even then, I >liked fuzzy ), but the whole family sat in front of that little TV >in our playroom, watching intently. > >What now amazes me about that whole mission is the fact that it >actually got there and back. Some four or five years ago, I read that >all those banks of computers with the flashing lights and winding >spools of magnetic tape had less power than the average desktop - and >that was 5 years ago! > >After spending the summer of 68 watching American cities burn, it was >uplifting and inspiring to see mankind striving successfully for >peace. These guys were my childhood heroes, the Mercury and Gemini >astronauts, and landing on the moon was the culmination of that. > >Of course we didn't realize at the time it was all an elaborate hoax, >filmed on a Hollywood backlot. > >For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one >of those things "we never forgot" (just like where we were when we >heard about JFK's assassination ). > >Thanks for that link, Tom! > >cheers, >frank >-- >"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video
Nice focal length range for that zoom. 4/3rds so it's a 28-100 equivalent. -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of P. J. Alling > Sent: 20 July 2006 17:10 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT: Panasonic DSLR Lumix DMC-L1 preview and video > > As a photographer I find the web site logo offensive to me > and all other > photographers everywhere. ;-) > > Jaume Lahuerta wrote: > > >In Spanish. In Barcelona's presentation the > >distributor told them that it would cost around 2000 > >EUR including the Leica 14-50 zoom. > >Preview: > >http://www.quesabesde.com/noticias/panasonic-lumix-dmc-l1,1_2599 > >Video: > >http://www.quesabesde.com/camaras-digitales/camaras/panasonic > -lumix-dmc-l1-videos,2150.html > > > > > > > > > >__ > >LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. > >Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. > >http://es.voice.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > -- > When you're worried or in doubt, > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Jump
As long as you know what to ask. Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that other cultures might be uptight about it? Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's thought, yet we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own moral and legal hang-ups. Publish and be damned! -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of DagT > Sent: 20 July 2006 09:42 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > I know > > Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: > > > You can ask. > > > > DagT wrote: > > > >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > >> > >> > >> > >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > >>> different, not only the customs. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to know > >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about > our law, and > >> how much do we know about other countries? > >> > >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I may > >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against > >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was > I supposed > >> to know, or understand, that? > >> > >> DagT > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Susquehenna
I like it, Scott, and I wouldn't change anything. The curve of the river interacts nicely with the shore and the far hills. Numbers 2 and 3 of this on-line collection are really nice, too. This is the PESO "maiden voyage" of the PZ-1, isn't it? Rick --- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like it. Can imagine the scene in the Fall with > placid river > reflections. > While I like seeing all of the far right tree, I'd > probably wind up > either cropping off or cloning out the rather bright > building. > Thanks for the peek. > > Jack > > --- Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > http://picasaweb.google.com/sdloveless/July2006/photo#4953492787365543954 > > > > Taken from a bridge near Jersey Shore, PA. PZ-1, > 28-80 power zoom, > > Fuji Superia 800. This is one of my first few > photos with a > > polarizer. All comments and critiques are greatly > appreciated. > > > > -- > > Scott Loveless > > http://www.twosixteen.com > > Shoot more film! > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: GESO Scout camp
What, you think there's something wrong with driving at 95mph in a 70mph zone, and photographing with one hand and a camera in front of your face, in the fast lane? -- Cheers, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kostas Kavoussanakis > Sent: 20 July 2006 11:14 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: > > > Try this: > > > http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=52925 > 3&g=218194 > > > > Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate. > > Thanks for sharing Mike. "Home James" is slightly disconcerting :-) > > Kostas (and is it a Toyota?) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO: Summer Sunset
Thank very much, Marnie. I really glad you like it. A little to the right of the centre of the image there's a building that catches the sun (small yellow dot). It is actually a huge ware house - the central ware house for Denmark and Sweeden for a very popular retail chain called NETTO (Owned by MAERSK, one of the worlds largest tranporting companies, I believe). I did the local plans for the freight village in which the ware house was built in 2001. Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 20. juli 2006 10:59 Til: pdml@pdml.net Emne: Re: PESO: Summer Sunset In a message dated 7/19/2006 3:06:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I colleaque of mine lives very near the sea (most Danes do ;-). When I visited him earlier this evening, I did this sunset image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/193652447/ Regards Jens === After reading some others' comments, Jens, I thought I'd elaborate why I really like it. I had to click on it to see it larger, of course, the small one is too small. You captured conflicting elements very well -- juxtaposition of opposites. Warmth and cool (even cold). Emptiness/loneliness and togetherness. The buoy at one end in the really cool -- buoys are always sort of lonely things to me -- and togetherness with warmth at the other end. On top of that there is a person walking on the bridge to join the other two. The gradation of colors is lovely and, also, it makes me feel as if I was there. In other words, it is really nice. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 07/20/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/394 - Release Date: 07/20/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On 7/18/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Great photo! Yes!! cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
> Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be > caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her > face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to local customs if it affected him/her. This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a friend when you visit them. ie if you smoke & he didn't like smoking in his house, you would refrain from smoking when visiting him. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: PESO - Jump > As long as you know what to ask. > > Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for > parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that > other cultures might be uptight about it? > > Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be > caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her > face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? > > I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's thought, yet > we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own > moral and legal hang-ups. > > Publish and be damned! > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of DagT >> Sent: 20 July 2006 09:42 >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: PESO - Jump >> >> I know >> >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: >> >> > You can ask. >> > >> > DagT wrote: >> > >> >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've >> >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be >> >>> different, not only the customs. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to > know >> >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about >> our law, and >> >> how much do we know about other countries? >> >> >> >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I > may >> >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against >> >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was >> I supposed >> >> to know, or understand, that? >> >> >> >> DagT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > When you're worried or in doubt, >> > Run in circles, (scream and shout). >> > >> > >> > -- >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > PDML@pdml.net >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
I was a teenager when the Eagle landed. My grandmother, who lived about a mile away had a color TV, so i walked to her house to watch. One by one, other family members and relatives came by. Grandma's TV was in her dining room. Eating was the main activity of her family. We watched the moon landing together in grandma's dining room and ate fried chicken wings. -- Original message -- From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi Frank. I was eight years old at the time. > > I remember watching it on an old B&W set as well. It was a Packard-Bell > 19", we didn't have color TV yet. We changed the channels with a pair of > pliers. I recall my Dad telling us kids to sit down and be quiet because > this was important. > > I love(d) the space program as well. It was the coolest thing going. It is > amazing we made it there on what now looks like antique hardware. It is > amazing how many people I run in to that do not believe it. > > Some of those additional shots of the mission were interesting too. > > Tom C. > > > > > > > >From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > >Subject: Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing > >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 13:57:10 -0400 > > > >On 7/20/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm > > > > > > > > > Tom C. > > > >Tom, > > > >Thanks for that link. It was spooky reading it, "hearing" phrases > >that (I didn't realize) were etched in my memory. > > > >"Houston, Tranquility Base Here; the Eagle has Landed." We broke > >into cheers when we heard that one. > > > >"That was one small step step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." > >I told my father that was pretty good thinking, then he told me he was > >pretty sure that Neil had made it up ahead of time. > > > >I was 12 years old, and it seemed that we'd spent the whole summer in > >front of our TV, a little black and white "portable" job. We didn't > >have cable yet, the picture was fuzzy (which was okay, because the > >broadcasts from the moon were pretty fuzzy anyway, and even then, I > >liked fuzzy ), but the whole family sat in front of that little TV > >in our playroom, watching intently. > > > >What now amazes me about that whole mission is the fact that it > >actually got there and back. Some four or five years ago, I read that > >all those banks of computers with the flashing lights and winding > >spools of magnetic tape had less power than the average desktop - and > >that was 5 years ago! > > > >After spending the summer of 68 watching American cities burn, it was > >uplifting and inspiring to see mankind striving successfully for > >peace. These guys were my childhood heroes, the Mercury and Gemini > >astronauts, and landing on the moon was the culmination of that. > > > >Of course we didn't realize at the time it was all an elaborate hoax, > >filmed on a Hollywood backlot. > > > >For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one > >of those things "we never forgot" (just like where we were when we > >heard about JFK's assassination ). > > > >Thanks for that link, Tom! > > > >cheers, > >frank > >-- > >"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > > >-- > >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >PDML@pdml.net > >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Jump
> > I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to > local customs if > it affected him/her. > Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any photographs that depict human beings. Please do not post any more to the list, otherwise I could get into trouble with my imam. -- Salaam, Bob > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Kenneth Waller > Sent: 20 July 2006 19:50 > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > > Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties > that might be > > caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a > woman with her > > face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? > > I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to > local customs if > it affected him/her. > > This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a > friend when you > visit them. ie if you smoke & he didn't like smoking in his > house, you would > refrain from smoking when visiting him. > > Kenneth Waller > > - Original Message - > From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: PESO - Jump > > > > As long as you know what to ask. > > > > Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for > > parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that > > other cultures might be uptight about it? > > > > Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties > that might be > > caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a > woman with her > > face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? > > > > I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's > thought, yet > > we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own > > moral and legal hang-ups. > > > > Publish and be damned! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Bob > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >> Behalf Of DagT > >> Sent: 20 July 2006 09:42 > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > >> > >> I know > >> > >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: > >> > >> > You can ask. > >> > > >> > DagT wrote: > >> > > >> >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > >> >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > >> >>> different, not only the customs. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to > > know > >> >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about > >> our law, and > >> >> how much do we know about other countries? > >> >> > >> >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I > > may > >> >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against > >> >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was > >> I supposed > >> >> to know, or understand, that? > >> >> > >> >> DagT > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > When you're worried or in doubt, > >> > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> > PDML@pdml.net > >> > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
On 7/20/06, Bob W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As long as you know what to ask. > > Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for > parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that > other cultures might be uptight about it? > > Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be > caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her > face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? > > I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's thought, yet > we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own > moral and legal hang-ups. > > Publish and be damned! Well, here's my take on this, FWIW. Firstly, let me say that when I saw it, I thought it was a beautiful photo of a lovely child enjoying himself on a summer's day. No thoughts of a sexual nature crossed my mind, and neither did any red flags go up telling me that anyone would be offended, shocked or in any way titillated by the photo. Oh well. That being said, it seems to me that if Dag had put "Naked Child" in the SL, or "explicit sexual content" or whatever, wouldn't that just draw those perverts that google such phrases to look at this photo? Seems to me that would be much worse than offending a few people who are squimish about seeing a bit of flesh. We all know that Dag shows (innocent) pix of his kid, sometimes with no clothes on. Knowing that, take the Robb approach. Don't look at any of his photos. I can't believe that any cop or prosecutor, seeing one or two photos that may be in my work computer's cache would choose to prosecute, given the innocent nature of them, especially with an explanation of how and why they got here, and especially given the fact that there are no other nekkid kids in that cache. cheers, frank (no pervert, but no prude either) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Bob W wrote: >> I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to >> local customs if >> it affected him/her. >> >> > > Let's try it. I have converted to Islam. I no longer wish to see any > photographs that depict human beings. Please do not post any more to > the list, otherwise I could get into trouble with my imam. > > -- > Salaam, > Bob > Is there a religion where pictures of cats aren't allowed? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT: 37 Year Anniversary of Apollo 11 Moon Landing
frank theriault wrote: > On 7/20/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/19jul_seaoftranquillity.htm >> > > For our generation, where you were when we landed on the moon was one > of those things "we never forgot" (just like where we were when we > heard about JFK's assassination ). I was in the Welsh field I've just shown everyone. The moon that night was nearly full. At the time, I thought I would have been on it myself by now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: PESO - Jump
The thing is, there's been quite a lot of discussion on this list regarding the laws and/or somewhat hostile or negative view taken in some countries of this sort of subject, and the possible repercussions of being associated with it. While Dag simply may have not thought about it before posting, you are advocating not caring. How friendly is that? Tom C. >From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" >Subject: RE: PESO - Jump >Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:18:45 +0100 > >As long as you know what to ask. > >Why would it occur to somebody in a culture where it is routine for >parents to photograph their naked children on a beach to thing that >other cultures might be uptight about it? > >Does anyone here, for example, consider the difficulties that might be >caused to people in some Muslim countries if you show a woman with her >face uncovered, perhaps driving a car? > >I'll bet nobody here has ever given it a single moment's thought, yet >we expect other people to know all the peculiar nuances of our own >moral and legal hang-ups. > >Publish and be damned! > >-- >Cheers, > Bob > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of DagT > > Sent: 20 July 2006 09:42 > > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > Subject: Re: PESO - Jump > > > > I know > > > > Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 10.44 skrev P. J. Alling: > > > > > You can ask. > > > > > > DagT wrote: > > > > > >> Den 20. jul. 2006 kl. 06.05 skrev Keith McGuinness: > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>> I am NOT saying that what you did is in anyway wrong but you've > > >>> got to remember that the LAWS in other countries might be > > >>> different, not only the customs. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> Well, that only brings a new problem. How much do we have to >know > > >> about foreign law? How much does US citizens know about > > our law, and > > >> how much do we know about other countries? > > >> > > >> In relation to the Nikon Contest many years ago (so long that I >may > > >> remember wrong) I think there was restriction in Japan against > > >> showing pubic hair. So shaved models got through. How was > > I supposed > > >> to know, or understand, that? > > >> > > >> DagT > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > When you're worried or in doubt, > > > Run in circles, (scream and shout). > > > > > > > > > -- > > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > > PDML@pdml.net > > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > > > > >-- >PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >PDML@pdml.net >http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Jump
Ken Waller wrote: > I would expect we'd be advised by that Moslem pdml'er as to local customs if > it affected him/her. > > This is really no different than respecting the wishes of a friend when you > visit them. ie if you smoke & he didn't like smoking in his house, you would > refrain from smoking when visiting him. I agree 100%. It's a darn good example, but it's difficult to apply to other problematic areas. How about bringing food to an anorectic's house, for example. :-) More seriously, take the issue of a moslem woman driving a car. I think is a fair bet that someone would stand up and claim that it's necessary to show that kind of thing for the sake of female liberation in Moslem countries. I believe that the sense of what's right and wrong is bound up with cultural context so tight that it's very difficult to let respect overrule it. Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GESO Scout camp
Bob W wrote: > What, you think there's something wrong with driving at 95mph in a > 70mph zone, and photographing with one hand and a camera in front of > your face, in the fast lane? > > -- > Cheers, > Bob I slowed down to take the photograph. Your Honour. > > >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >>Behalf Of Kostas Kavoussanakis >>Sent: 20 July 2006 11:14 >>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>Subject: Re: GESO Scout camp >> >>On Thu, 20 Jul 2006, mike wilson wrote: >> >> >>>Try this: >>> >> >>http://home.fotocommunity.com/mike.a.wilson/index.php?id=52925 >>3&g=218194 >> >>>Click on top left and then the arrows above to navigate. >> >>Thanks for sharing Mike. "Home James" is slightly disconcerting :-) >> >>Kostas (and is it a Toyota?) >> >>-- >>PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>PDML@pdml.net >>http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> > > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net