Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Practically every SLR, film or digital, made since > the middle 1990s, > other than the MZ-S and a couple others. Canon > actually started doing > things this way with the A1 back in, what, 1974 or > so? Seems strange, however, that Pentax moved from the big, plastic blobs of the PZ series to the retro Zx-5n (a fav of mine) which operates the same as the MZ-S only to return to this notion that lenses should be controled through the body for the digitals. > > > ... Do the *ist series film cameras operate > > that way as well? > > Yes, as far as I know. As do the PZ series and > possibly others. I'm > not familiar enough with Pentax cameras pre-DSLR to > know all the > details. Yeah, I figured they did since the first j-series lenses without aperture rings came out with the *ist film cameras, correct? Anyway, what I'm most sorry to learn is that even the FA's need to be controlled this way on the DSLR's. Oh well. I plan on shooting film for along time yet so how much of an impact on me it will have remains to be seen. -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: >> Nearly all modern SLRs set the aperture manually via >> a control on the >> body. Nikon, Canon, Minolta aka Sony, Pentax. In not >> so much time, >> you might not have any option to buy anything else >> other than as used >> gear. > > Ok, but really modern DSLR's, correct? Practically every SLR, film or digital, made since the middle 1990s, other than the MZ-S and a couple others. Canon actually started doing things this way with the A1 back in, what, 1974 or so? >> I don't play the guitar. > Pitty, you're never too old to learn! LOL .. My fingers never worked that way. I can play the piano. Or the radio... > Well, like I've said, it's not irrelevent to me if > it's controlled on the body (but then, you must be > used to it by now) but I agree. It's an absulote must > to have said control...somewhere. It took me a little while to come around to the idea of controls on the body, but now it seems much more natural and ergonomic than the old way with exposure controls spread out between body and lens. One hand operates the exposure controls, one hand stabilizes the camera and, optionally, operates the focusing. > ... Do the *ist series film cameras operate > that way as well? Yes, as far as I know. As do the PZ series and possibly others. I'm not familiar enough with Pentax cameras pre-DSLR to know all the details. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Lens for Spotmatic - SMC TAKUMAR1:4 / 150MM
A local auction show a Pentax SMC TAKUMAR 1:4 150mm. Currently 15 USD - 14 hours left! Anyone interested - send me an e-mail? Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Pål Jensen Sendt: 18. august 2006 13:57 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: When is it going to end? - Original Message - From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When is the damned embargo due to end, I'm really sick of Aaron's sadistic > little game. Some says 12. september, others say 13. September or 14 September or even 15. September. Mis september seem pretty certain. Pål -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 08/17/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 08/17/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Yellow Lily
Good picture but what is the flower? Don W Jack Davis wrote: > This shot with A70~210 f/4 with extension ring (forget which one) and > on macro setting. Been a favorite lens! > Last offering for tonight and last flower for..(?) > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=174 > Comments encouraged! > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Yellow Lily
This shot with A70~210 f/4 with extension ring (forget which one) and on macro setting. Been a favorite lens! Last offering for tonight and last flower for..(?) Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=174 Comments encouraged! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Not true. The aperture of any A/F/FA/DA lens is set > by the body in > all modes with any of the Pentax DSLRs, presuming > the aperture ring > (if the lens has one) is set to the A position. In > Av and Manual > mode, you set the aperture with a control on the > body, the body sets > aperture per your setting. Ah, I see. Hence my confusion. I see what you're saying. Yuck, well when and if I switch to the K10D, I suppose I'll have to get used to that...if I can. > > I understand you are working with an MZ-S, which > does not have body- > controlled manual aperture settings. It's true! And an LX, which is so old it doesn't even have Shutter Priority... > Nearly all modern SLRs set the aperture manually via > a control on the > body. Nikon, Canon, Minolta aka Sony, Pentax. In not > so much time, > you might not have any option to buy anything else > other than as used > gear. Ok, but really modern DSLR's, correct? I don't > play the guitar. Pitty, you're never too old to learn! > I drink my single malt without adulteration (water, > ice, etc), if > that's what you mean! :-) Exactly, good man! > Same here. The DS is almost permanently in Av mode, > and occasionally > in Manual mode. Ahh, right...the clouds have parted... > Same here. On the *ist DS, setting the exposure mode > to Av (and > presuming the aperture ring is set to A or there is > none) the thumb > wheel controls the aperture. Just flick it back and > forth to adjust > your lens opening. Damn! How did I ever miss that? Oh yeah, I don't own a DSLR yet. That's sounds no fun to me. I'll need to try that soon to see if I like it. Hey! Maybe that's Aaron's secret...you can operate the K10D like a film SLR in this regard. > I would never buy an SLR that did not give me the > option of direct > control over the lens opening. Whether the control > is on the body or > the lens is irrelevant to me. Well, like I've said, it's not irrelevent to me if it's controlled on the body (but then, you must be used to it by now) but I agree. It's an absulote must to have said control...somewhere. Thanks for setting me straight, Godfrey. Good lord, I had no idea the DSLR's operated that way. Now I'm just pissed off. Do the *ist series film cameras operate that way as well? Where the hell have I been? You see, I knew there was a reason to come back into the fold. All of a sudden I feel so old fashioned. -Brendan > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
Is there an SLR that does not allow direct setting of the aperture? Don W Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: > >>> Most of my A, F and FA series lenses have never been >>> taken off the A >>> setting since I bought them, and I shoot almost 95% >>> of the time with >>> the camera in Aperture Priority exposure mode. >> With the lens on "A" you're actually shooting in >> Shutter Priority AE mode. > > Not true. The aperture of any A/F/FA/DA lens is set by the body in > all modes with any of the Pentax DSLRs, presuming the aperture ring > (if the lens has one) is set to the A position. In Av and Manual > mode, you set the aperture with a control on the body, the body sets > aperture per your setting. > > I understand you are working with an MZ-S, which does not have body- > controlled manual aperture settings. So a lens without an aperture > ring can only be set to other than minimum aperture in Program and > Shutter priority modes. This is different on the DSLR models, which > operate more in line with the PZ-1p model (at least that's my > understanding ... I never owned a PZ-1p). > >> In any event... >> >> While all of what you say is true I will "never" buy a >> lens without an aperture ring. It just doesn't feel >> like photography to me at that point. There are >> certain things, no matter how advanced or tweaked the >> technology gets, that I just can't do without. The >> feel of an SLR in my hands without a way to manually >> set the f-stop on the lens is just icky to me. > > Nearly all modern SLRs set the aperture manually via a control on the > body. Nikon, Canon, Minolta aka Sony, Pentax. In not so much time, > you might not have any option to buy anything else other than as used > gear. > >> But then I drink all of my scotch neat and my guitar >> amp is all tube so I just like things a certain way. > > I don't know what 'drink all of my scotch neat' means, and I don't > play the guitar. But I do know how to operate my cameras ... I do > drink my single malt without adulteration (water, ice, etc), if > that's what you mean! :-) > >> Plus, I almost never shoot in Shutter Priority. > > Same here. The DS is almost permanently in Av mode, and occasionally > in Manual mode. > >> Usually, when I want a particular shutter speed, I >> either adjust the lens (keeping DOF in mind) until I >> find it or go to manual exposure. > > Same here. On the *ist DS, setting the exposure mode to Av (and > presuming the aperture ring is set to A or there is none) the thumb > wheel controls the aperture. Just flick it back and forth to adjust > your lens opening. > > I would never buy an SLR that did not give me the option of direct > control over the lens opening. Whether the control is on the body or > the lens is irrelevant to me. > > Godfrey > > -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - Nature's Sculpture
I like it. If that's dirt, then dirt is for me. -Brendan --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I haven't commented on others' PESOs for about a > week, but I will soon and > try to catch up. With that in mind... > > I went out yesterday to photograph a famous > landmark, which I will show > later, and also ended up photographing this. I am > probably the only one that will > like it. :-) > > I often find myself photographing the land, dirt, > rock, etc., next to road > sides. Especially where it has been cut away or > where the erosion from a > pervious cut away (maybe long before) has made > interesting patterns. Okay, I am weird > -- I find dirt, etc., interesting. This is one of > the shots I have taken of > that type that I thought turned out better than > most. > > I've already darkened this a little, I could darken > it a bit more. It's okay > if you hate it. > > I don't know what it is, maybe shale? > > http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/sculpture.htm > > Comments welcome. > > Marnie aka Doe > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:23 PM, Brendan MacRae wrote: >> Most of my A, F and FA series lenses have never been >> taken off the A >> setting since I bought them, and I shoot almost 95% >> of the time with >> the camera in Aperture Priority exposure mode. > > With the lens on "A" you're actually shooting in > Shutter Priority AE mode. Not true. The aperture of any A/F/FA/DA lens is set by the body in all modes with any of the Pentax DSLRs, presuming the aperture ring (if the lens has one) is set to the A position. In Av and Manual mode, you set the aperture with a control on the body, the body sets aperture per your setting. I understand you are working with an MZ-S, which does not have body- controlled manual aperture settings. So a lens without an aperture ring can only be set to other than minimum aperture in Program and Shutter priority modes. This is different on the DSLR models, which operate more in line with the PZ-1p model (at least that's my understanding ... I never owned a PZ-1p). > In any event... > > While all of what you say is true I will "never" buy a > lens without an aperture ring. It just doesn't feel > like photography to me at that point. There are > certain things, no matter how advanced or tweaked the > technology gets, that I just can't do without. The > feel of an SLR in my hands without a way to manually > set the f-stop on the lens is just icky to me. Nearly all modern SLRs set the aperture manually via a control on the body. Nikon, Canon, Minolta aka Sony, Pentax. In not so much time, you might not have any option to buy anything else other than as used gear. > But then I drink all of my scotch neat and my guitar > amp is all tube so I just like things a certain way. I don't know what 'drink all of my scotch neat' means, and I don't play the guitar. But I do know how to operate my cameras ... I do drink my single malt without adulteration (water, ice, etc), if that's what you mean! :-) > Plus, I almost never shoot in Shutter Priority. Same here. The DS is almost permanently in Av mode, and occasionally in Manual mode. > Usually, when I want a particular shutter speed, I > either adjust the lens (keeping DOF in mind) until I > find it or go to manual exposure. Same here. On the *ist DS, setting the exposure mode to Av (and presuming the aperture ring is set to A or there is none) the thumb wheel controls the aperture. Just flick it back and forth to adjust your lens opening. I would never buy an SLR that did not give me the option of direct control over the lens opening. Whether the control is on the body or the lens is irrelevant to me. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
Thanks, Paul for response. This was shot using a white reflector in natural light. LX & A100 f/2.8 macro and Provia 100F. Don't do my own scans. What's USM? "Highlight blasts", I'm still thinking about. Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't even thinking about the Columbine shot. Yes, I'm serious. > It's the highlight blasts at the edges of contrasting colors that > make it look oversharpened. But it is a very nice shot. Are you > applying a lot of USM to your scans? (I believe you said you were > shooting film.) In any case, that's my take. I could be wrong, but > that's the impression I get. > Paul > On Aug 18, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > Paul, > > Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" > > or is > > this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? > > You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't > > decided? > > If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is > you > > see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be > confusing > > "contrast" with something else? > > Do I have a unique monitor? > > > > Jack > > > > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Nice shot. Perhaps a bit oversharpened. > >> Paul > >> On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > >> > >>> Along the same theme as the recent dew covered blossom, this very > >>> small > >>> blossom is covered by actual morning dew. Note the droplet size > >>> compared to the blossom..whatever it is. > >>> > >>> Comments welcome. > >>> > >>> Jack > >>> > >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=173 > >>> > >>> __ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >>> http://mail.yahoo.com > >>> > >>> -- > >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>> PDML@pdml.net > >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
William, No flash. White reflector. So, we now have sucking over sharpening? Otherwise, how do you like it? :-]] Thanks for thoughts. Jack --- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Jack Davis" > Subject: Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery > > > > Paul, > > Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" > or > > is > > this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? > > You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't > > decided? > > If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is > you > > see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be > confusing > > "contrast" with something else? > > Do I have a unique monitor? > > > My initial reaction was that it is oversharpened and too contrasty as > > well. > If you used flash, you used too much of it. > Also the background sucks, and appears to be suffering from > oversharpening. > > William Robb > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Epson wins (was: Printer Recommendaions?)
Well, I will post something in a few weeks once everything's dialed in. Plus, I've "been here" for years. I just haven't contributed much in the last 3-4. So, you're right, I'll be around for a while. -Brendan --- D Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom talked me into buying the D2H, and i'm still > here, and i still > talk to Tom. > > You'll be here for a while. > > > > BTW looking forward to the review. My Canon BJC 8200 > is getting on, > and its tiime i thinmk to upgrade ther S800. > > I;ll look at the 5000 and 4800 Epson review. > > > > Dave > > Quoting Brendan MacRae > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Ok, so it looks like all of the positive feedback > from > > the loyal Epsonites on the list have convinced me. > It > > shall be the Epson 4800. I'll let you know my > > impressions sometime down the road. > > > > However, if I don't like the machine I will hold > you > > all responsible, curse your names, and leave in > huff. > > > > Or at least in a minute and huff. > > > > -Brendan > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > > > > -- > Equine and pet photography, York and Durham Region. > www.caughtinmotion.com > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of my A, F and FA series lenses have never been > taken off the A > setting since I bought them, and I shoot almost 95% > of the time with > the camera in Aperture Priority exposure mode. With the lens on "A" you're actually shooting in Shutter Priority AE mode. In any event... While all of what you say is true I will "never" buy a lens without an aperture ring. It just doesn't feel like photography to me at that point. There are certain things, no matter how advanced or tweaked the technology gets, that I just can't do without. The feel of an SLR in my hands without a way to manually set the f-stop on the lens is just icky to me. But then I drink all of my scotch neat and my guitar amp is all tube so I just like things a certain way. Plus, I almost never shoot in Shutter Priority. Usually, when I want a particular shutter speed, I either adjust the lens (keeping DOF in mind) until I find it or go to manual exposure. Besides, for me, the automation works so much better adjusting the f-stops to the correct exposure than setting the lens to "A" and having to reach awkwardly to set the shutter speed dial. -Brendan > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
In a message dated 8/18/2006 12:37:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mark, Cotty and Frank are all correct. Welcome to the list. Good to have you. Ditto. Re the welcome that is. As to the first, I, personally, believe Mark more than Cotty. And, well, forget frank, he's simply rather unbelievable. So, see, opinions differ. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
I wasn't even thinking about the Columbine shot. Yes, I'm serious. It's the highlight blasts at the edges of contrasting colors that make it look oversharpened. But it is a very nice shot. Are you applying a lot of USM to your scans? (I believe you said you were shooting film.) In any case, that's my take. I could be wrong, but that's the impression I get. Paul On Aug 18, 2006, at 11:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Paul, > Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" > or is > this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? > You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't > decided? > If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is you > see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be confusing > "contrast" with something else? > Do I have a unique monitor? > > Jack > > --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nice shot. Perhaps a bit oversharpened. >> Paul >> On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> >>> Along the same theme as the recent dew covered blossom, this very >>> small >>> blossom is covered by actual morning dew. Note the droplet size >>> compared to the blossom..whatever it is. >>> >>> Comments welcome. >>> >>> Jack >>> >>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=173 >>> >>> __ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
- Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" Subject: Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery > Paul, > Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" or > is > this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? > You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't > decided? > If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is you > see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be confusing > "contrast" with something else? > Do I have a unique monitor? My initial reaction was that it is oversharpened and too contrasty as well. If you used flash, you used too much of it. Also the background sucks, and appears to be suffering from oversharpening. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:08:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Excellent. I like this. The color is subtle yet rich. But I would rotate it about one degree counterclockwise or until both cable supports are leaning toward the center at approximately the same angle. Paul == Good idea. But already rotated a bit, so may try Mark's idea of perspective tweaking. Either some distortion is due to my wide angle or the bridge is crooked. Thanks to everyone for their comments. Much appreciated. Marnie aka Doe :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
In a message dated 8/18/2006 2:48:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Caldicott Tunnel. My gosh! I'd forgotten they call it that! Do they have both sides working now? (Clearly, it's been a long time...) keith whaley ~ lived in Concord, worked in San Ramon, 1958-1963. At that time, Concord was sort of a sleepy little town, they've since ruined it! WAY too large, paved over with freeway cloverleafs and shopping centers and malls... sighhh. In fact, I think one of those cloverleafs was built right smack on top of my old house! === Well, this whole area changed ever since Bart went in umpteen million years ago. And, yup, I remember the pre-Bart (Bay Area Rapid Transit) days quite well. The San Ramon -- Walnut Creek corridor (680), and the Pittsburg - Concord corridor (24) are both now as bad traffic-wise as anything down the peninsula (80) or anything in LA. I often feel they are worse. :-) Just for that reason alone I've been threatening to move out of here for over 15 years. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
On Aug 18, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 19/08/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> A lens without an aperture ring is less likely to break no matter >> what you choose to do with it: it has fewer parts to break. > > Huh? It just doesn't have an aperture ring, the aperture isn't set by > magic otherwise. In a lens without an aperture ring, or in a lens with the aperture ring set to A, the lens opening is set by metered action of the camera's actuation lever on the lens' iris regulator lever. Using a lens with an aperture ring set to anything other than A means a) the communication contacts to the body are open circuit so there are commutators involved, b) the ring controls a limit stop for the mechanism internally, the camera actuator simply drops through to its minimum aperture setting and the iris regulator comes up against the limit stop set by the ring. There are detent fingers, little springs operating on notches in the mechanism, the A button and spring for it, the connection between the ring and the limit stop, etc. Yes, a lens without an aperture ring doesn't have an aperture ring ... and it doesn't have all the parts associated with the aperture ring either. It just has the iris regulator mechanism to interact with the camera actuator and a permanently connected set of contacts to communicate with the body. Thus the lens lacking an aperture ring is simpler and likely more robust on that basis. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
I can't tell if it's over sharpened, but it looks overexposed. Dave On 8/19/06, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" or is > this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? > You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't > decided? > If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is you > see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be confusing > "contrast" with something else? > Do I have a unique monitor? > > Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
Paul, Are you really serious about it's possibly being "over sharpened" or is this a spin off play on the recent Columbine exchanges? You say "perhaps", does that mean you feel it is or you haven't decided? If you feel it is over sharpened, PLEASE clue me as to what it is you see that causes you to reach that conclusion. Could you be confusing "contrast" with something else? Do I have a unique monitor? Jack --- Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nice shot. Perhaps a bit oversharpened. > Paul > On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > > Along the same theme as the recent dew covered blossom, this very > > small > > blossom is covered by actual morning dew. Note the droplet size > > compared to the blossom..whatever it is. > > > > Comments welcome. > > > > Jack > > > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=173 > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
Huh??? It's set by the camera. Like almost every other lens in the world today. Paul On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:39 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote: > On 19/08/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> A lens without an aperture ring is less likely to break no matter >> what you choose to do with it: it has fewer parts to break. > > Huh? It just doesn't have an aperture ring, the aperture isn't set by > magic otherwise. > > -- > Rob Studdert > HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA > Tel +61-2-9554-4110 > UTC(GMT) +10 Hours > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ > Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hey, Mark! GFM memory failure
On 8/18/06, cbwaters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Think it was he that said with the Histogram available to us digital folks, > we should never have to submit a photo with an exposure problem. And I seem to remember something about green lines... :-) -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO Dawn Jewlery
Nice shot. Perhaps a bit oversharpened. Paul On Aug 18, 2006, at 9:49 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Along the same theme as the recent dew covered blossom, this very > small > blossom is covered by actual morning dew. Note the droplet size > compared to the blossom..whatever it is. > > Comments welcome. > > Jack > > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=173 > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Car Colors
Douglas Newman wrote: > Sorry, meant New Doug of course! > > Forgot my new name ;-)! > > New Doug Or we could just call you "Newman" ... you're not a postal carrier, by chance, I don't suppose? :-) -- Thanks DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
Thank you for those specific stats. That seems pretty much consistent with what I have found. Whatever the speed of the CF card (80x), an SD card (133x) is about half the speed when used with an adapter in the *ist D. It isn't just the *ist D because my 20D (which I will probably be selling) has roughly the same results. Thanks again. Bryan On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > The ones I bought from www.mittoni.com and from www.psism.com ... I > believe they're the same thing ... degrades performance of a Sandisk > Ultra II SD card by the following amounts using the same Sandisk > Imagemate 12-in-1 reader: > >SD Card in SD slot - writes 5.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED], reads 7.5 [EMAIL > PROTECTED] >SD Card in CF adapter in CF slot - writes 2.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED], reads 4.5 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Times with a Transcend 150x card are nearly the same through the > adapter, about [EMAIL PROTECTED] faster when used in the SD card slot. > I doubt you'll find much better, they all seem to be made by the same > folks. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
I understand that the *ist D is pretty slow but I was surprised at how much the adapter decreased the performance beyond that point. Thanks to all for the responses. Bryan On Aug 18, 2006, at 5:18 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: > That is correct. In my usage, a 40X WA Lexar card is as fast as it > can go. Not even sure it is that fast. I can say that my 4gb > microdrives are the same speed as the 40x Lexar card. > > The D is just a bit pokey by today's standards. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
Thanks for confirming that, Bruce. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Date: 8/18/2006 5:19:29 PM > Subject: Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance? > > That is correct. In my usage, a 40X WA Lexar card is as fast as it > can go. Not even sure it is that fast. I can say that my 4gb > microdrives are the same speed as the 40x Lexar card. > > The D is just a bit pokey by today's standards. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:55:57 PM, you wrote: > > SB> AFAIK, the adapters all cause a reduction in speed, add that to the fact > SB> that the D can't use the speed of the faster 133X cards, and you've got a > SB> recipe for some slowness. I don't believe the D can even take advantage of > SB> an 80X card - I've heard it can max out at about 40X or 50X, but someone > SB> more knowledgeable than I can give you more precise, and possibly more > SB> accurate numbers. > > SB> Shel > > > > >> [Original Message] > >> From: Bryan Vyhmeister > > >> Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I > >> picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly > >> slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even > >> when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than > >> half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? > > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO Dawn Jewlery
Along the same theme as the recent dew covered blossom, this very small blossom is covered by actual morning dew. Note the droplet size compared to the blossom..whatever it is. Comments welcome. Jack http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=173 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: DA 100mm f2.8 Macro
On 19/08/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A lens without an aperture ring is less likely to break no matter > what you choose to do with it: it has fewer parts to break. Huh? It just doesn't have an aperture ring, the aperture isn't set by magic otherwise. -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Hey, Mark! GFM memory failure
Think it was he that said with the Histogram available to us digital folks, we should never have to submit a photo with an exposure problem. CW - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Hey, Mark! GFM memory failure > What was it you said at GFM about using the histogram. I can't > remember if you spoke about using the histogram during your panorama > presentation or during your hints for the competition. Either way, > would you mind jogging my memory? > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com > Shoot more film! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 8/17/2006 > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - scanner question/request for opinions
I'll put in another vote for the Scan Dual IV. Have not done many slides, mostly color neg, but it does an acceptable job on slides as well. Excellent scanner for its price range. -P Tom C wrote: > I have the Dimage Scan Dual IV and it does a fairly decent job and it's a > step down from the the Elite 5400. Not quite as easy with Velvia as on other > slide films, but even there it gives acceptable (if not fiddly) scans. > Contrasty films are likely an issue to some degree or another with any > consumer film scanner. > > It may depend on just how demanding one is. For a sub-$1000 device it's > hard to expect perfection (not that anyone is). > > The Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tech-data/B0001BG1SI/ref=de_a_smtd/104-8896016-6603131?ie=UTF8 > > It's generally available in the $300 price range. > > Scott, I think you'd probably find it's results far superior to scanning > film on one of the lower range flat bed scanners. I don't even see a > dynamic range specification offered for the 8400F when scanning film, which > is probably indicative of the fact that it's better off unmentioned. > > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Reese) > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: OT - scanner question/request for opinions > Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:28:18 + > > I'm having the same difficulties with my Scan Elite 5400 (this isn't the > newer version II). Dark areas in the slide just block out. > > > > > Would anyone care to share their opinions about film scanners? My > > Canon 8400F just won't cut it for color slides. It's not capable of > > resolving shadow detail, and high contrast images are a headache. To > > be realistic, I'm not looking for drum scan quality. I am looking to > > obtain a decent scan, with at least some shadow detail, that will > > provide an image I can either downsize for the web, or print. Prints > > from the scans will never be larger than 8x10, and often will be 4x6 > > or 5x7. I'm not necessarily looking for top of the line, or even new; > > simply something that's better than my current scanner. Any > > recommendations? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: A DNG Question
On Aug 18, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I've been doing some disk cleaning, and have converted many PEF > files to > DNG. Is there _any_ reason to save the PEF's. Also, If I convert > a PEF > that has been adjusted in ACR, and delete the XMP files, will the > DNG pick > up the changes? ACR settings stored in the .xmp files will be embedded into the .dng files when you convert. Is there a reason to hang onto the PEF files? I don't know ... I have enough spare external hard disk space that I haven't deleted any yet, but I doubt I actually need them. I keep them on a separate hard drive from my archives/backups. If I truly find I don't need them at all, I can just reformat it and forget they existed. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
:-) I just made a discovery today with my D200. I'm a happy man today.:-) But, Stil looking forward to Pentax IS. See i still capitoloze Pentax.:-) Dave Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > That is why they have so many different models to choose from :) > > -- > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:59:25 PM, you wrote: > > DJB> What. > > DJB> When did this happen.? > > DJB> The Nikon group was very specific about this,. > > DJB> :-) > > > DJB> Dave > > DJB> Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> You apparently have more arms than I do . I can only manage two >>> cameras at once. You do realize that you can take a lens off and put >>> a different lens on - you don't need a body for each lens :) >>> >>> -- >>> Bruce >>> >>> >>> Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:25:33 PM, you wrote: >>> >>> DJB> Easy lads. >>> DJB> I have the D1, D2H, D200 and just put a bid in for a D1H. >>> >>> DJB> Looks like i'll take over for Bruce now.:-) >>> >>> DJB> Still have more Pentax gear if your wondering.lol >>> >>> DJB> Dave >>> >>> DJB> Oh sorry, VBG >>> >>> DJB> Dave >>> >>> DJB> Quoting Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the >> Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the >> only one. > > Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who > uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... > > "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally > convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges > a K-something-D that way he can join this list and > drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! > > New Doug > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>> >>> >>> >>> DJB> Equine Photography in York Region >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > > > > DJB> Equine Photography in York Region > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
The ones I bought from www.mittoni.com and from www.psism.com ... I believe they're the same thing ... degrades performance of a Sandisk Ultra II SD card by the following amounts using the same Sandisk Imagemate 12-in-1 reader: SD Card in SD slot - writes 5.4 [EMAIL PROTECTED], reads 7.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] SD Card in CF adapter in CF slot - writes 2.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED], reads 4.5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Times with a Transcend 150x card are nearly the same through the adapter, about [EMAIL PROTECTED] faster when used in the SD card slot. I doubt you'll find much better, they all seem to be made by the same folks. Godfrey On Aug 18, 2006, at 4:37 PM, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote: > Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I > picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly > slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even > when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than > half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
That is why they have so many different models to choose from :) -- Bruce Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:59:25 PM, you wrote: DJB> What. DJB> When did this happen.? DJB> The Nikon group was very specific about this,. DJB> :-) DJB> Dave DJB> Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> You apparently have more arms than I do . I can only manage two >> cameras at once. You do realize that you can take a lens off and put >> a different lens on - you don't need a body for each lens :) >> >> -- >> Bruce >> >> >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:25:33 PM, you wrote: >> >> DJB> Easy lads. >> DJB> I have the D1, D2H, D200 and just put a bid in for a D1H. >> >> DJB> Looks like i'll take over for Bruce now.:-) >> >> DJB> Still have more Pentax gear if your wondering.lol >> >> DJB> Dave >> >> DJB> Oh sorry, VBG >> >> DJB> Dave >> >> DJB> Quoting Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the > Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the > only one. Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges a K-something-D that way he can join this list and drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> DJB> Equine Photography in York Region >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> DJB> Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
That is correct. In my usage, a 40X WA Lexar card is as fast as it can go. Not even sure it is that fast. I can say that my 4gb microdrives are the same speed as the 40x Lexar card. The D is just a bit pokey by today's standards. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:55:57 PM, you wrote: SB> AFAIK, the adapters all cause a reduction in speed, add that to the fact SB> that the D can't use the speed of the faster 133X cards, and you've got a SB> recipe for some slowness. I don't believe the D can even take advantage of SB> an 80X card - I've heard it can max out at about 40X or 50X, but someone SB> more knowledgeable than I can give you more precise, and possibly more SB> accurate numbers. SB> Shel >> [Original Message] >> From: Bryan Vyhmeister >> Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I >> picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly >> slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even >> when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than >> half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
A DNG Question
I've been doing some disk cleaning, and have converted many PEF files to DNG. Is there _any_ reason to save the PEF's. Also, If I convert a PEF that has been adjusted in ACR, and delete the XMP files, will the DNG pick up the changes? Thanks! Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
What. When did this happen.? The Nikon group was very specific about this,. :-) Dave Quoting Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You apparently have more arms than I do . I can only manage two > cameras at once. You do realize that you can take a lens off and put > a different lens on - you don't need a body for each lens :) > > -- > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:25:33 PM, you wrote: > > DJB> Easy lads. > DJB> I have the D1, D2H, D200 and just put a bid in for a D1H. > > DJB> Looks like i'll take over for Bruce now.:-) > > DJB> Still have more Pentax gear if your wondering.lol > > DJB> Dave > > DJB> Oh sorry, VBG > > DJB> Dave > > DJB> Quoting Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the only one. >>> >>> Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who >>> uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... >>> >>> "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally >>> convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges >>> a K-something-D that way he can join this list and >>> drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! >>> >>> New Doug >>> >>> __ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> > > > > DJB> Equine Photography in York Region > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
3 day horse show and i still remembered the PUG.
Got mine in. Did.you. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
AFAIK, the adapters all cause a reduction in speed, add that to the fact that the D can't use the speed of the faster 133X cards, and you've got a recipe for some slowness. I don't believe the D can even take advantage of an 80X card - I've heard it can max out at about 40X or 50X, but someone more knowledgeable than I can give you more precise, and possibly more accurate numbers. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bryan Vyhmeister > Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I > picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly > slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even > when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than > half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
You apparently have more arms than I do . I can only manage two cameras at once. You do realize that you can take a lens off and put a different lens on - you don't need a body for each lens :) -- Bruce Friday, August 18, 2006, 4:25:33 PM, you wrote: DJB> Easy lads. DJB> I have the D1, D2H, D200 and just put a bid in for a D1H. DJB> Looks like i'll take over for Bruce now.:-) DJB> Still have more Pentax gear if your wondering.lol DJB> Dave DJB> Oh sorry, VBG DJB> Dave DJB> Quoting Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the >>> Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the >>> only one. >> >> Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who >> uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... >> >> "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally >> convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges >> a K-something-D that way he can join this list and >> drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! >> >> New Doug >> >> __ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> DJB> Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Zenitar 16mm/2.8
Oh the 70's. I sorta remember tham. 60's are Right Out.. Dave Quoting Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Bill Lawlor wrote: > >> I'll be coming over to digital when the K10D hits the market. Does anyone on >> the list have an opinion about the Russian Zenitar 16mm/2.8 lens for >> digital, or 35mm, format? > > Great fun lens. Well-built. Escellent value for money. > As Bob Walkden, I believe, once said about a lens, "it has the flare > resistance of a 1970's Led Zeppelin groupie". > > -- > Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > 412-687-2835 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: When is it going to end?
I work with horses all day, and have to come home to fart humour. LOVE IT. Dave Quoting Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 18/8/06, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> What's "SFA?" > > Rob will confirm, of course, that it is his local Sydney Farts Association. > > I believe he is the Grand Master. > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? Bryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
SD to CF Adapter with Good Performance?
Does anyone have an SD to CF adapter that works with decent speed? I picked up two different models on eBay and they are both terribly slow! I have been using a Lexar 80X 2GB CF card in my *ist D and even when using a Lexar 133X 2GB SD card in the adapter, I get less than half the performance of the Lexar 80X CF card. Any suggestions? Bryan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Nothing special, really. Typical tourist shot. >> >> I've tweaked the color once already, could tweak again. >> >> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/thebridge.htm > Nice angle, as others have said. Nice job Marnie. Dave Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Zenitar 16mm/2.8
Agreed, but much better on the 35 mm equiv.:-0 Dave Quoting Bob Shell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Aug 17, 2006, at 8:56 PM, Bill Lawlor wrote: > >> I'll be coming over to digital when the K10D hits the market. Does >> anyone on >> the list have an opinion about the Russian Zenitar 16mm/2.8 lens for >> digital, or 35mm, format? > > I have one and use it on my Canon 10D via adapter. Of course it is > no longer a fisheye when used on the smaller sensor, and becomes > equivalent to a 24mm lens without barrel distortion correction. Fun > to work with. > > Bob > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Zenitar 16mm/2.8
I like my 16. Flare only happens during the sunny part of the day for some reason. Daav Quoting frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 8/18/06, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Perhaps it was Mike Wilson. > > Those Englishmen are all pretty much the same anyways, eh, Mark? Not > like the Welsh... > > > > -frank, neither English nor Welsh (which makes both groups happy, I'm sure) > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
Easy lads. I have the D1, D2H, D200 and just put a bid in for a D1H. Looks like i'll take over for Bruce now.:-) Still have more Pentax gear if your wondering.lol Dave Oh sorry, VBG Dave Quoting Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the >> Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the >> only one. > > Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who > uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... > > "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally > convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges > a K-something-D that way he can join this list and > drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! > > New Doug > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
You can beleibve anything i say. You just have to fiqure out my speling./ Dave Quoting Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 8/18/06, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 8/18/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> > Don't believe anything Mark Roberts or Frank Theriault tell you >> > (although Frank is quiet at the moment, what a pleasant thing :-) >> >> I'm LURKING, so I can still hear YOU, Cotty! >> >> Doug, welcome aboard. Don't believe anything Cotty or Mark Roberts >> tell you, and you'll be fine. >> >> Seriously, this is a great place - unlike any other anywhere else >> (maybe that's a good thing?). Stick around for a bit! >> >> cheers, >> frank >> > > Mark, Cotty and Frank are all correct. > > Welcome to the list. Good to have you. > > > -- > Scott Loveless > http://www.twosixteen.com > Shoot more film! > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Tonal gradation in shadows - The $67 Question?
At 10:31 PM 8/17/2006, you wrote: I definitely agree that tonal gradation is funky on cameras like the *istDS, when compared to what the human eye sees. Last year, I traveled to Pittsburgh for their annual "Light Up Night" festival. (One night a year, they turn on almost every light in almost every downtown building. It creates a beautiful city skyline.) While I was shooting this impressive skyline at night, I could never get a tonal gradation and consistency of color that approached what I saw with my eyes. I tried every combination of contrast and saturation the camera had, and nothing was close to the impressive skyline itself. When I adjusted for reasonable highlight exposure and color balance, the shadows were always far too dark. I could never capture the full range of tones I could see with my eyes. I even tried playing with the RAW files in post production, but nothing came close to the original scene. It's a real pity. The original scene is much more impressive to the naked eye than any of my photos will ever show. I'd love to have a camera that handled tonal range better than the *istDS. Don't misunderstand, I love my *istDS, but it's quite far from being the perfect camera. take care, Glen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Hey, Mark! GFM memory failure
What was it you said at GFM about using the histogram. I can't remember if you spoke about using the histogram during your panorama presentation or during your hints for the competition. Either way, would you mind jogging my memory? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures
Mark Roberts wrote: > keith_w wrote: > >> Speaking of car colors, my beautiful little Saturn SW-2 Wagon color is >> called >> Silver Plum with a grey leather interior. >> You can imagine the color. >> A muted reddish-purple metallic ~ beauty! > When my friend in Rochester was building his recording studio I helped > with the equipment setup, but also pitched in with the mundane tasks > like painting. The color they chose for the control room was called > "muted mauve". I suggested that, because it was a recording studio, > this must mean that it was 20 dB quieter than standard mauve. > Why, come to think of it, it may well be! I'd be sorely tempted to have that color on another car of mine, if it weren't so costly to RE-do a color... keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - scanner question/request for opinions
I have the Dimage Scan Dual IV and it does a fairly decent job and it's a step down from the the Elite 5400. Not quite as easy with Velvia as on other slide films, but even there it gives acceptable (if not fiddly) scans. Contrasty films are likely an issue to some degree or another with any consumer film scanner. It may depend on just how demanding one is. For a sub-$1000 device it's hard to expect perfection (not that anyone is). The Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Dual IV: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/tech-data/B0001BG1SI/ref=de_a_smtd/104-8896016-6603131?ie=UTF8 It's generally available in the $300 price range. Scott, I think you'd probably find it's results far superior to scanning film on one of the lower range flat bed scanners. I don't even see a dynamic range specification offered for the 8400F when scanning film, which is probably indicative of the fact that it's better off unmentioned. Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Reese) Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT - scanner question/request for opinions Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:28:18 + I'm having the same difficulties with my Scan Elite 5400 (this isn't the newer version II). Dark areas in the slide just block out. > > Would anyone care to share their opinions about film scanners? My > Canon 8400F just won't cut it for color slides. It's not capable of > resolving shadow detail, and high contrast images are a headache. To > be realistic, I'm not looking for drum scan quality. I am looking to > obtain a decent scan, with at least some shadow detail, that will > provide an image I can either downsize for the web, or print. Prints > from the scans will never be larger than 8x10, and often will be 4x6 > or 5x7. I'm not necessarily looking for top of the line, or even new; > simply something that's better than my current scanner. Any > recommendations? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures
keith_w wrote: >Speaking of car colors, my beautiful little Saturn SW-2 Wagon color is called >Silver Plum with a grey leather interior. >You can imagine the color. >A muted reddish-purple metallic ~ beauty! When my friend in Rochester was building his recording studio I helped with the equipment setup, but also pitched in with the mundane tasks like painting. The color they chose for the control room was called "muted mauve". I suggested that, because it was a recording studio, this must mean that it was 20 dB quieter than standard mauve. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Scott Loveless wrote: >> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/prius-new/ > > I agree with Mark. #3 is very nice. Take some interior shots. The > Toyota brochure photos are rather dull. Show us the cockpit, man! Okay ... but not until next week. I'm running my butt off getting things ready for the "Traveler In London" reception tomorrow evening. I hope to see some folks from the PDML there! ... :-) Godfrey http://www.gdgphoto.com/traveler/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: fine art print sizes without cropping (RE: Holy Crap -- Pentax10MPbody
Doug Franklin wrote: > > Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > Actually, just leave a substantial border around it and cut > > the MAT to fit the image :) > > I'll cut the inner hole in the mat to fit the image, but I'll also cut > the outer edge of the mat to fit a standard frame size because the > non-standard frames are either terribly expensive or I have to make them > myself, including cutting the glass. That's more do-it-yourself than I > have time to mess with. Especially when I can buy decent looking 11" x > 14" frames for a buck each at Big Lots. > > -- > Thanks, > DougF (KG4LMZ) > > -- YUp - after my adventures with 12 x 16 I went back to mostly 11 x 14 and printing the images a bit smaller... I still like LOTS of white around the image. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: [...] > The names of the colors in car brochures really make me laugh, I > can't remember them correctly to save my life. I keep saying > "Wheatfield Pearl" when it's really "Driftwood Pearl" (I've corrected > my page now...). The Prius is available in: > > "Super White" > "Classic Silver Metallic" > "Magnetic Gray" > "Driftwood Pearl" > "Barcelona Red Metallic" > "Silver Pine Mica" > "Seaside Pearl" > "Black" > > I'd call them white, silver, dark metallic gray, gold, metallic red, > metallic green, metallic blue and black. I adhere to the Crayola > Color Non-Obfuscation Guidelines. ;-) > > Godfrey Speaking of car colors, my beautiful little Saturn SW-2 Wagon color is called Silver Plum with a grey leather interior. You can imagine the color. A muted reddish-purple metallic ~ beauty! That car is now nearly 8 years old, and I'm thinking of a Toyota as a replacement. We're considering a Prius... time will tell. Sure like yours, Godfey. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:36:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Been too long since visiting this "wonder". > I'd fiddle with the rock and cliff face trying to gain a little more > detail. The near bridge tower could be lightened, etc., etc.. > Certainly a worthy image. > Where and why are you moving out of CA? > = > Sell condo inherited from Mom, move to another state and buy house for about > 1/2 the price. Have money left over. Financial, logical, not emotional. Can't > list until January and might be still here eight months after that. > > So for the next 6-12 months this third generation Californian will be taking > day trips and mini-trips around California to say a very fond farewell to our > lovely Golden State. > > You should come to our next NorCal Meet, Jack. I live in Walnut Creek, > California, other side of Caldicott Tunnel. > > Marnie aka Doe The Caldicott Tunnel. My gosh! I'd forgotten they call it that! Do they have both sides working now? (Clearly, it's been a long time...) keith whaley ~ lived in Concord, worked in San Ramon, 1958-1963. At that time, Concord was sort of a sleepy little town, they've since ruined it! WAY too large, paved over with freeway cloverleafs and shopping centers and malls... sighhh. In fact, I think one of those cloverleafs was built right smack on top of my old house! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: OT - scanner question/request for opinions
I'm having the same difficulties with my Scan Elite 5400 (this isn't the newer version II). Dark areas in the slide just block out. > > Would anyone care to share their opinions about film scanners? My > Canon 8400F just won't cut it for color slides. It's not capable of > resolving shadow detail, and high contrast images are a headache. To > be realistic, I'm not looking for drum scan quality. I am looking to > obtain a decent scan, with at least some shadow detail, that will > provide an image I can either downsize for the web, or print. Prints > from the scans will never be larger than 8x10, and often will be 4x6 > or 5x7. I'm not necessarily looking for top of the line, or even new; > simply something that's better than my current scanner. Any > recommendations? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, okay, I've got your sharpening/Velvia analogy (can't tell if you like Velvia or not) and continue to post images with an effort toward they're being in focus. Your comments will be kept in mind. Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to > conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass > or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color > to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. > In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with > the > digicams - things didn't look quite real. > > Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your > images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like > sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been > heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: > > JD> H'lo, Bruce. > JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". > JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. > > JD> Jack > > JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello Jack, > >> > >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your > images > >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out > at > >> me > >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over > the > >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally > >> sharp. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, > >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over > >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. > >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water > droplets > >> emit > >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or > >> pixelation > >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. > >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked > for > >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer > >> matters. > >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking > >> sharpness. > >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ > >> > >> JD> Jack > >> > >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. > I > >> like > >> >> > >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider > thread > >> on > >> >> this one too. > >> >> Adds something. > >> >> > >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels > a > >> >> little > >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be > a > >> >> function of the > >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this > >> bloom > >> >> appears > >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here > in > >> >> North > >> >> Central US. > >> >> Paul > >> >> -- Original message -- > >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black > valuer > >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of > course, > >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. > >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. > >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) > >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec > >> mirror > >> >> up > >> >> > delay, remote switch. > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jack > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> > >> > >> > >> JD> __ > >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? > >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > JD> __ > JD> Do You Yahoo!? > JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, okay, I've got your sharpening/Velvia analogy (can't tell if you like Velvia or not) and continue to post images with an effort toward they're being in focus. Your comments will be kept in mind. Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to > conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass > or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color > to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. > In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with > the > digicams - things didn't look quite real. > > Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your > images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like > sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been > heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: > > JD> H'lo, Bruce. > JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". > JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. > > JD> Jack > > JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello Jack, > >> > >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your > images > >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out > at > >> me > >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over > the > >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally > >> sharp. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, > >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over > >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. > >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water > droplets > >> emit > >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or > >> pixelation > >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. > >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked > for > >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer > >> matters. > >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking > >> sharpness. > >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ > >> > >> JD> Jack > >> > >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. > I > >> like > >> >> > >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider > thread > >> on > >> >> this one too. > >> >> Adds something. > >> >> > >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels > a > >> >> little > >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be > a > >> >> function of the > >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this > >> bloom > >> >> appears > >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here > in > >> >> North > >> >> Central US. > >> >> Paul > >> >> -- Original message -- > >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black > valuer > >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of > course, > >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. > >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. > >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) > >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec > >> mirror > >> >> up > >> >> > delay, remote switch. > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jack > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> > >> > >> > >> JD> __ > >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? > >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > JD> __ > JD> Do You Yahoo!? > JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, okay, I've got your sharpening/Velvia analogy (can't tell if you like Velvia or not) and continue to post images with an effort toward they're being in focus. Your comments will be kept in mind. Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to > conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass > or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color > to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. > In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with > the > digicams - things didn't look quite real. > > Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your > images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like > sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been > heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: > > JD> H'lo, Bruce. > JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". > JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. > > JD> Jack > > JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello Jack, > >> > >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your > images > >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out > at > >> me > >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over > the > >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally > >> sharp. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, > >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over > >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. > >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water > droplets > >> emit > >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or > >> pixelation > >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. > >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked > for > >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer > >> matters. > >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking > >> sharpness. > >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ > >> > >> JD> Jack > >> > >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. > I > >> like > >> >> > >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider > thread > >> on > >> >> this one too. > >> >> Adds something. > >> >> > >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels > a > >> >> little > >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be > a > >> >> function of the > >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this > >> bloom > >> >> appears > >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here > in > >> >> North > >> >> Central US. > >> >> Paul > >> >> -- Original message -- > >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black > valuer > >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of > course, > >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. > >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. > >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) > >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec > >> mirror > >> >> up > >> >> > delay, remote switch. > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jack > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> > >> > >> > >> JD> __ > >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? > >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > JD> __ > JD> Do You Yahoo!? > JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, okay, I've got your sharpening/Velvia analogy (can't tell if you like Velvia or not) and continue to post images with an effort toward they're being in focus. Your comments will be kept in mind. Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to > conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass > or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color > to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. > In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with > the > digicams - things didn't look quite real. > > Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your > images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like > sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been > heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: > > JD> H'lo, Bruce. > JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". > JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. > > JD> Jack > > JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello Jack, > >> > >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your > images > >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out > at > >> me > >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over > the > >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally > >> sharp. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, > >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over > >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. > >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water > droplets > >> emit > >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or > >> pixelation > >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. > >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked > for > >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer > >> matters. > >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking > >> sharpness. > >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ > >> > >> JD> Jack > >> > >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. > I > >> like > >> >> > >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider > thread > >> on > >> >> this one too. > >> >> Adds something. > >> >> > >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels > a > >> >> little > >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be > a > >> >> function of the > >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this > >> bloom > >> >> appears > >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here > in > >> >> North > >> >> Central US. > >> >> Paul > >> >> -- Original message -- > >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black > valuer > >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of > course, > >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. > >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. > >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) > >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec > >> mirror > >> >> up > >> >> > delay, remote switch. > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jack > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> > >> > >> > >> JD> __ > >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? > >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > JD> __ > JD> Do You Yahoo!? > JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
Well, okay, I've got your sharpening/Velvia analogy (can't tell if you like Velvia or not) and continue to post images with an effort toward they're being in focus. Your comments will be kept in mind. Thanks, Bruce. Jack --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to > conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass > or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color > to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. > In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with > the > digicams - things didn't look quite real. > > Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your > images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like > sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been > heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. > > -- > Best regards, > Bruce > > > Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: > > JD> H'lo, Bruce. > JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". > JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. > > JD> Jack > > JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Hello Jack, > >> > >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your > images > >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out > at > >> me > >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over > the > >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally > >> sharp. > >> > >> HTH > >> > >> Bruce > >> > >> > >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: > >> > >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, > >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over > >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. > >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water > droplets > >> emit > >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or > >> pixelation > >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. > >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked > for > >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer > >> matters. > >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking > >> sharpness. > >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ > >> > >> JD> Jack > >> > >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. > I > >> like > >> >> > >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider > thread > >> on > >> >> this one too. > >> >> Adds something. > >> >> > >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) > >> >> > >> >> == > >> >> > >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels > a > >> >> little > >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be > a > >> >> function of the > >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this > >> bloom > >> >> appears > >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here > in > >> >> North > >> >> Central US. > >> >> Paul > >> >> -- Original message -- > >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black > valuer > >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of > course, > >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. > >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. > >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) > >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec > >> mirror > >> >> up > >> >> > delay, remote switch. > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Jack > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> >> PDML@pdml.net > >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> >> > >> > >> > >> JD> __ > >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? > >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection > around > >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> PDML@pdml.net > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > JD> __ > JD> Do You Yahoo!? > JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > JD> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 4, Issue 187
--- "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scaramanga - the Man with the Golden Gun - had a > superfluous papilla. > 3 dugs... Ah, got it :-). New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Car Colors
--- Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doug Sorry, meant New Doug of course! Forgot my new name ;-)! New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
On 8/18/06, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Get back on mic you ratbag ;-) That's ~Mr.~ Ratbag to you... ;-) cheers, M. Sac de Rat -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Car Colors
--- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The names of the colors in car brochures really make > me laugh Indeed, one wonders how many people there are in the world whose job it is just to think up colors for car paint. Oh, and carpeting... Kitchen countertops... Wall paint... And everything else that comes in colors! Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
On 8/18/06, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GEST = "Gallery Every So Toyota" ;-) > > All I had with me in the bag the other day was the Fuji F30 and I > needed to get a couple of snaps of the new car to send to my mom and > friends, so what the heck? > > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/prius-new/ > > Amusing as all heck if not sporty. It's more computer than > automobile. I keep waiting for Marvin The Paranoid Android to open > the door for me. Still on the first tankful of fuel, 380 miles and > two pips on the gauge (out of ten) left to go. That should be about > 45 mpg for starters. Drives nice, handles well. > > The Fuji F30 is about the same color, takes a darn nice snapshot. :-) > > enjoy > Godfrey > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > I agree with Mark. #3 is very nice. Take some interior shots. The Toyota brochure photos are rather dull. Show us the cockpit, man! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
On 18/8/06, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: > it's a lot >more fun to just sit on the sidelines and hurl brickbats. Mark! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
On 18/8/06, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: >I'm LURKING, so I can still hear YOU, Cotty! Get back on mic you ratbag ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
On Aug 18, 2006, at 1:29 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Sorry pal, but it's too late for corrections at this point. You *know* > it's gonna be "Wheatfield Pearl" from now on as far as anyone here is > concerned! That's fine by me. I keep calling it that anyway... ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Columbine
what happens in some of your images is that the background starts to conflict with the subject - an example would be wood grain, or grass or something like that. Just like Velvia can give an unnatural color to an object, so can sharpening give an unnatural look to the object. In the earlier days of digital, this was a fairly common look with the digicams - things didn't look quite real. Not sure I am making any sense but many times when I open one of your images I go "whoa!" just doesn't look quite right - sure looks like sharpness to me. Kind of like when you open an image that has been heavily saturated, you immediately react in your mind. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, August 18, 2006, 12:35:05 PM, you wrote: JD> H'lo, Bruce. JD> I can't get my mind around "unnaturally sharp". JD> My glasses see the world as even sharper. JD> Jack JD> --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello Jack, >> >> Perhaps you are looking too close. What I see in many of your images >> is an overall grittiness or almost sparkly look that screams out at >> me >> of over sharpening. It is almost like thinking of Velvia as over the >> top for saturation - some of your images just looked unnaturally >> sharp. >> >> HTH >> >> Bruce >> >> >> Friday, August 18, 2006, 8:01:35 AM, you wrote: >> >> JD> Thanks, Marnie, >> JD> I look at this image and honestly try to find evidence of over >> JD> sharpening. Maybe I just don't know what I'm looking for. >> JD> The "horns" are lined with hair like fuzz and tiny water droplets >> emit >> JD> needle sharp 'stars', but I can't detect any grainy edges or >> pixelation >> JD> in finer threads such as that great spider web. >> JD> It could easily be somewhat softened and will be when worked for >> JD> printing, just to be safe. Step back a pace, and it no longer >> matters. >> JD> I admit an over zealous attitude when it comes to seeking >> sharpness. >> JD> It's a curse! :-[ >> >> JD> Jack >> >> JD> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> >> Ditto. I like it too. And ditto what Paul said, re sharpening. I >> like >> >> >> >> backlight nature stuff, and I like the teeny weeny spider thread >> on >> >> this one too. >> >> Adds something. >> >> >> >> Marnie aka Doe :-) >> >> >> >> == >> >> >> >> I like this. Nice composition, and the lighting works. It feels a >> >> little >> >> crispy. Perhaps it's a bit oversharpened? Or that could just be a >> >> function of the >> >> light and some fuzz on the edges of the flower parts. BTW, this >> bloom >> >> appears >> >> to be slightly different in form than the native columbine here in >> >> North >> >> Central US. >> >> Paul >> >> -- Original message -- >> >> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> > Set this up with the sun hitting the blossom and a black valuer >> >> > background cloth draped over a chair back. The lens, of course, >> >> > protected by being shaded from the sun. >> >> > DOF vs image size always an issue on macros. >> >> > OK, so I atomized it a squirt. ;-) >> >> > MZ-S (manual), A*100 f/2.8 mac., Provia 100F, tripod, 2 sec >> mirror >> >> up >> >> > delay, remote switch. >> >> > >> >> > All comments welcome! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Jack >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=170 >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >> PDML@pdml.net >> >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> >> >> JD> __ >> JD> Do You Yahoo!? >> JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> JD> http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> JD> __ JD> Do You Yahoo!? JD> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around JD> http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT: Annual TOPDML CNE Airshow General Meeting
Resend as it seems not to have made the list earlier today - apologies if this is a duplicate: Howdy, Got back from vacation about a week ago (had a great time), but I've been lurking for a bit. Lots o' stuff going on in my life (good things!) have kept me busy, and will do so for a bit, I think. However, today is the first day of Toronto's annual Canadian National Exhibition, our traditional end-of-summer fair. That reminds me that every Labour Day weekend, they close the fair with the annual Canadian National Airshow, and that for the past several years a few of us PDMLers (past and present) have shown up to sit by the lake, hoist a few brewskies and try to take photos of badly lit speeding airplanes (others do it well - I just can't get the knack). I hope I didn't miss any TOPDMLers on the CC list - if I did, my apologies. Come out anyway. Anyone down for this thing? cheers, frank (back to lurk mode for a bit) -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
OT - scanner question/request for opinions
Howdy, gang! Would anyone care to share their opinions about film scanners? My Canon 8400F just won't cut it for color slides. It's not capable of resolving shadow detail, and high contrast images are a headache. To be realistic, I'm not looking for drum scan quality. I am looking to obtain a decent scan, with at least some shadow detail, that will provide an image I can either downsize for the web, or print. Prints from the scans will never be larger than 8x10, and often will be 4x6 or 5x7. I'm not necessarily looking for top of the line, or even new; simply something that's better than my current scanner. Any recommendations? Much appreciated! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
We can be thankful then that one of us did! John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:49:58 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You knew what I meant, John! :-) > > > > > Tom C. > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > Bigger picture? > > I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, > but > no doubt those who weren't are grateful to you. :-) > > John > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:43:44 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Actually I didn't have to work too hard. :-) Partly just playing >> Devil's >> advocate, partly pointing out that there's a bigger picture when one >> looks >> at all the data that was presented in the chart. >> >> >> >> >> Tom C. >> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >> numbered." >> >> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + >> The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news >> and >> trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make >> bad >> news out of this data. >> Paul >> -- Original message -- >> From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for >>> failure, >>> neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the >>> sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive >>> news >>> they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. >>> >>> Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd >>> best >>> selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the >>> actual >>> number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell >>> so >>> well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? >>> >>> Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera >>> market. >>> That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other >>> digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. >>> >>> That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market >>> that >>> appears to be pretty cut throat. >>> >>> Tom C. >>> >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>> numbered." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >>> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 >>> > >>> >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You >>> >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is >>> >nonsense. >>> >Paul >>> >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing >>> > > out 1) >>> > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one >>> > > way to view >>> > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". >>> > > >>> > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or >>> > > failure. They >>> > > will be what they are with or without me. >>> > > >>> > > Tom C. >>> > > >>> > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed >>> or >>> > > numbered." >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >>> > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 >>> > >> >>> > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. >>> > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And >>> if >>> > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, >>> > >> right? >>> > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand >>> for >>> > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax >>> equipment. >>> > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. >>> > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? >>> > >>> >>> > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after >>> > >>> release, >>> > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or >>> > >>> competitor). >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Tom C. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, >>> > >>> debriefed or >>> > >>> numbered." >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >>> > Subject: Re: The third best se
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >The names of the colors in car brochures really make me laugh, I >can't remember them correctly to save my life. I keep saying >"Wheatfield Pearl" when it's really "Driftwood Pearl" (I've corrected >my page now...). Sorry pal, but it's too late for corrections at this point. You *know* it's gonna be "Wheatfield Pearl" from now on as far as anyone here is concerned! -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
In a message dated 8/18/2006 10:36:17 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Been too long since visiting this "wonder". I'd fiddle with the rock and cliff face trying to gain a little more detail. The near bridge tower could be lightened, etc., etc.. Certainly a worthy image. Where and why are you moving out of CA? = Sell condo inherited from Mom, move to another state and buy house for about 1/2 the price. Have money left over. Financial, logical, not emotional. Can't list until January and might be still here eight months after that. So for the next 6-12 months this third generation Californian will be taking day trips and mini-trips around California to say a very fond farewell to our lovely Golden State. You should come to our next NorCal Meet, Jack. I live in Walnut Creek, California, other side of Caldicott Tunnel. Marnie aka Doe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
Where might Pentax fall in these lists were the company to have a few more models available? We may have an answer shortly ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: John Forbes > I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, but > no doubt those who weren't are grateful to you. :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
We've already done that - at least Muir Woods and some seaside stuff. Shel > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Yeah, it and Marin Headlands for Golden Gate Bridge shots and Muir Woods > would make a good NorCal Meet, wouldn't it? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
I saw one in that metallic red with the sporty options - bigger tires and wheels, alloy rims - VERY Kool! Shel > [Original Message] > From: Godfrey DiGiorgi The Prius is available in: > > "Super White" > "Classic Silver Metallic" > "Magnetic Gray" > "Driftwood Pearl" > "Barcelona Red Metallic" > "Silver Pine Mica" > "Seaside Pearl" > "Black" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
I don't know the future, that's for sure. Time will tell. Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:06 -0500 TomC, 20 some years ago there was a study of companies market share and profitability (PIMS). It has shaped thinking on the subject and corporate actions since then. In short, it looked across a broad array of markets and companies (1,000's) and found there were two ways to make a good profit in an industry. Either you had to be the big dog - market share leader with a majority share (or maybe you #2) to make money or you had to be a niche player who survives by creating value and special customer features that the big dogs couldn't be bothered matching or squashing. Point is, it's OK to be a small market share survivor in the camera market if that is your objective. Stop beating Pentax up for it. Regards, Bob S. On 8/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for failure, > neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the > sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive news > they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. > > Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd best > selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the actual > number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell so > well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? > > Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera market. > That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other > digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. > > That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market that > appears to be pretty cut throat. > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > > > > > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 > > > >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You > >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is > >nonsense. > >Paul > >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing > > > out 1) > > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one > > > way to view > > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". > > > > > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or > > > failure. They > > > will be what they are with or without me. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 > > >> > > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. > > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And if > > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, > > >> right? > > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand for > > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment. > > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. > > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: > > >> > > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? > > >>> > > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. > > >>> > > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after > > >>> release, > > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or > > >>> competitor). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Tom C. > > >>> > > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > > >>> debriefed or > > >>> numbered." > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 > > > > It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting > > to watch > > the share price over the next few months. With any luck that nasty > > asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on. > > > > John > >
RE: For those "in the know" about K10D
VBG ;-)) Shel > [Original Message] > From: Mark Roberts > The K1D is a purely hypothetical camera at this point. > The upcoming 10-megapixel camera (due this fall) is the K10D. It uses > SD cards :( > If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards > for this camera, because of the 10-megapixels and... other factors. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
It's not just me beating up Pentax (good grief). Public companies are subject to a wide range of opinions and statements on a daily basis, both positive and negative, usually from people more informed than myself. Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." From: "Bob Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:04:06 -0500 TomC, 20 some years ago there was a study of companies market share and profitability (PIMS). It has shaped thinking on the subject and corporate actions since then. In short, it looked across a broad array of markets and companies (1,000's) and found there were two ways to make a good profit in an industry. Either you had to be the big dog - market share leader with a majority share (or maybe you #2) to make money or you had to be a niche player who survives by creating value and special customer features that the big dogs couldn't be bothered matching or squashing. Point is, it's OK to be a small market share survivor in the camera market if that is your objective. Stop beating Pentax up for it. Regards, Bob S. On 8/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for failure, > neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the > sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive news > they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. > > Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd best > selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the actual > number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell so > well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? > > Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera market. > That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other > digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. > > That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market that > appears to be pretty cut throat. > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > > > > > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 > > > >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You > >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is > >nonsense. > >Paul > >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing > > > out 1) > > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one > > > way to view > > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". > > > > > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or > > > failure. They > > > will be what they are with or without me. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 > > >> > > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. > > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And if > > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, > > >> right? > > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand for > > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment. > > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. > > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: > > >> > > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? > > >>> > > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. > > >>> > > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after > > >>> release, > > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or > > >>> competitor). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Tom C. > > >>> > > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > > >>> debriefed or > > >>> numbered." > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 > > > > It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting > > to watch > > t
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
In a message dated 8/18/2006 12:13:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like this one. The location really works. Not the usual looking Bridge shot. The location warrants some more exploration concerning lighting and time. Nice work! -- Best regards, Bruce == And you thought the book I got saying where to take photos in Northern California was cheating. :-) Well, I doubt I would have found the Fort Baker location without it. Yeah, it and Marin Headlands for Golden Gate Bridge shots and Muir Woods would make a good NorCal Meet, wouldn't it? There were certainly enough people around the Marin Headlands taking photos for the people shooters. Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
What about Spartacus? (AKA Kirk Douglas) John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:31:06 +0100, Douglas Newman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Although with 3 of them the PDML is starting to >> resemble Scaramanga... > > Being a Doug I probably should know this, but have > they got a lot of Dougs in Skaramanga? > > I don't think I've ever met a Greek called Doug. > > New Doug > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
On Aug 18, 2006, at 12:31 PM, John Forbes wrote: > "Wheatfield Pearl"? Is that a rather subtle in-joke? > > Nice looking car, though. Thanks. The names of the colors in car brochures really make me laugh, I can't remember them correctly to save my life. I keep saying "Wheatfield Pearl" when it's really "Driftwood Pearl" (I've corrected my page now...). The Prius is available in: "Super White" "Classic Silver Metallic" "Magnetic Gray" "Driftwood Pearl" "Barcelona Red Metallic" "Silver Pine Mica" "Seaside Pearl" "Black" I'd call them white, silver, dark metallic gray, gold, metallic red, metallic green, metallic blue and black. I adhere to the Crayola Color Non-Obfuscation Guidelines. ;-) Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
--- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey now, wait a minute! It took a while to get the > Nikonian Bruce R. off the list so I could be the > only one. Hmm, actually, I have a good friend named Bruce who uses a Nikon (F80), but he is not a Bruce R... "My" Bruce hasn't gone digital yet so when I finally convince him to do it I will have to make sure he ges a K-something-D that way he can join this list and drive everyone up the walls with his name ;-)! New Doug __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
TomC, 20 some years ago there was a study of companies market share and profitability (PIMS). It has shaped thinking on the subject and corporate actions since then. In short, it looked across a broad array of markets and companies (1,000's) and found there were two ways to make a good profit in an industry. Either you had to be the big dog - market share leader with a majority share (or maybe you #2) to make money or you had to be a niche player who survives by creating value and special customer features that the big dogs couldn't be bothered matching or squashing. Point is, it's OK to be a small market share survivor in the camera market if that is your objective. Stop beating Pentax up for it. Regards, Bob S. On 8/18/06, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for failure, > neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the > sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive news > they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. > > Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd best > selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the actual > number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell so > well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? > > Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera market. > That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other > digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. > > That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market that > appears to be pretty cut throat. > > Tom C. > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > numbered." > > > > > > > > >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 > > > >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You > >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is > >nonsense. > >Paul > >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: > > > > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing > > > out 1) > > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one > > > way to view > > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". > > > > > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or > > > failure. They > > > will be what they are with or without me. > > > > > > Tom C. > > > > > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or > > > numbered." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 > > >> > > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. > > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And if > > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, > > >> right? > > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand for > > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment. > > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. > > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: > > >> > > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? > > >>> > > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. > > >>> > > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after > > >>> release, > > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or > > >>> competitor). > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Tom C. > > >>> > > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, > > >>> debriefed or > > >>> numbered." > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > > Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan > > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 > > > > It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting > > to watch > > the share price over the next few months. With any luck that nasty > > asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on. > > > > John > > > > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:50:45 +0100, Mark Roberts > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > keith_w wrote: > > > > > >> Mark Roberts wrote: > > >>> > > http://www.dslrphoto.com/2006/08/17/japan-most-popular-digital- > > camera-ranking-aug-7-to-aug-13-2006/ > > >>> Behind the Nikon D200 and the Sony A100, but ahead of a whole > > >>> lot of > > >>> Canons and Nikons. > > >> > > >> The K100D sells
Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan
You knew what I meant, John! :-) Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." Bigger picture? I think most of us were aware that Canon has more than one model, Tom, but no doubt those who weren't are grateful to you. :-) John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 18:43:44 +0100, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Actually I didn't have to work too hard. :-) Partly just playing Devil's >advocate, partly pointing out that there's a bigger picture when one >looks >at all the data that was presented in the chart. > > > > >Tom C. >"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >numbered." > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:33:17 + >The nonsensical part of it lies in taking what is essentially good news >and >trying to twist it into something negative. You had to work hard to make >bad >news out of this data. >Paul > -- Original message -- >From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Point it out the nonsense then to me big guy. I don't root for failure, >>neither am I wearing a short cheerleaders uniform jumping around on the >>sidelines. It seems like some here grasp for every shread of positive >>news >>they can get and then exaggerate it into something it's not. >> >>Fine, Pentax has one model that one recent week in Japan was the 3rd >>best >>selling DSLR. We don't know what made it a 3rd best seller or the >>actual >>number of units sold compared to best sellers 1 and 2. Why did it sell >>so >>well? Features? Price? A price cut? The fact that it was Japan? >> >>Pentax has between a 3 - 4% share of the world-wide digital camera >>market. >>That's it. So for every 3 or 4 cameras Pentax sells (DSLR and other >>digital), there are 96 or 97 other non-Pentax cameras sold. >> >>That's not exactly operating from a position of strength in a market >>that >>appears to be pretty cut throat. >> >>Tom C. >> >>"I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or >>numbered." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> >Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:26:33 -0400 >> > >> >Of course you care whether Pentax succeeds. You root for failure. You >> >try to find the dark side of everything. Most of what you say is >> >nonsense. >> >Paul >> >On Aug 17, 2006, at 7:59 PM, Tom C wrote: >> > >> > > Hey you ARE attacking me with words like that. I'm merely pointing >> > > out 1) >> > > the partial nature of the data and 2) that there's more than one >> > > way to view >> > > it aside from the superficially shouting "You go, Pentax!". >> > > >> > > I really don't care that much whether Pentax is a scuccess or >> > > failure. They >> > > will be what they are with or without me. >> > > >> > > Tom C. >> > > >> > > "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed >>or >> > > numbered." >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > >> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > >> Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >> > >> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:17:01 -0400 >> > >> >> > >> HAR! You wonder why your positions here have been attacked. >> > >> Pentax couldn't possibly be doing well. Never! Of course not. And >>if >> > >> anyone critiques your negativity, they're apologists for Pentax, >> > >> right? >> > >> My local camera store told me that they were amazed by the demand >>for >> > >> the K100. In the past, they've rarely stocked any Pentax equipment. >> > >> Now they have the K100 and all the DA lenses. >> > >> On Aug 17, 2006, at 5:02 PM, Tom C wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> It's one Pentax model vs. how many Canons combined? >> > >>> >> > >>> It's only a one-week snapshot of the country of Japan. >> > >>> >> > >>> It's a new model so one might anticipate high sales shortly after >> > >>> release, >> > >>> to be likewise eclipsed by sales of a subsequent model (Pentax or >> > >>> competitor). >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Tom C. >> > >>> >> > >>> "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, >> > >>> debriefed or >> > >>> numbered." >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" >> > Subject: Re: The third best selling DSLR in Japan >> > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 21:54:03 +0100 >> > >> > It's nice to see Pentax ahead of all the Canons. Be interesting >> > to watch >> > the share price over the next few months. With any luck that >>nasty >> > asset-stripper Abe X will sell up and move on. >> > >> > John >> > >> > >
RE: New Member
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Douglas Newman > Sent: 18 August 2006 20:31 > To: pdml@pdml.net > Subject: Re: New Member > > --- "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Although with 3 of them the PDML is starting to > > resemble Scaramanga... > > Being a Doug I probably should know this, but have > they got a lot of Dougs in Skaramanga? > > I don't think I've ever met a Greek called Doug. > Scaramanga - the Man with the Golden Gun - had a superfluous papilla. 3 dugs... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
Of course it's not rocket science... as Bill Robb said (my favorite all time quote from him). "Photography is not rocket science. Tang is rocket science". Tom C. "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered." From: "John Forbes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:31:22 +0100 "Wheatfield Pearl"? Is that a rather subtle in-joke? Nice looking car, though. John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:15:07 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GEST = "Gallery Every So Toyota" ;-) > > All I had with me in the bag the other day was the Fuji F30 and I > needed to get a couple of snaps of the new car to send to my mom and > friends, so what the heck? > > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/prius-new/ > > Amusing as all heck if not sporty. It's more computer than > automobile. I keep waiting for Marvin The Paranoid Android to open > the door for me. Still on the first tankful of fuel, 380 miles and > two pips on the gauge (out of ten) left to go. That should be about > 45 mpg for starters. Drives nice, handles well. > > The Fuji F30 is about the same color, takes a darn nice snapshot. :-) > > enjoy > Godfrey > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
In a message dated 8/18/2006 12:44:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well done, Marnie! Is that Ft. Point, looking under the bridge? Where the heck WERE you when the shutter went off? keith whaley Yeah, could be. Not sure. There were some structures right out at the end of the rocks and I debated walking there, but didn't. I was right on the edge of the water, by an access road that ran along the side of the mountain to Fort Baker. But tourists come in elsewhere. However, when I was there, I parked my car at the barricade at the end, a ranger I had spoken to at the Marin Headlands came down the access road from the other direction. He stopped at the barricades on the other side. So I guess although it is barricaded to the public it still works -- connects up Marin Headlands and Fort Baker. It did seem with all the barricading that one could still walk to the structures on the end. But not only was it cold and windy, well, the ranger was there. :-) Marnie -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: For those "in the know" about K10D
If the issues is downloading the cards to a portable hardrive - get af SD to CF adaper - and keep on using the harddrive. And the SD cards in the old camera. Regards Jens Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Mark Roberts Sendt: 17. august 2006 00:01 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Re: For those "in the know" about K10D Thibouille wrote: >Please tell me it does accept CF... :'( or then the K1D does, pleaaasse The K1D is a purely hypothetical camera at this point. The upcoming 10-megapixel camera (due this fall) is the K10D. It uses SD cards :( If you shoot RAW you'll probably want nothing smaller than 2 Gig cards for this camera, because of the 10-megapixels and... other factors. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.10/419 - Release Date: 08/15/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.2/422 - Release Date: 08/17/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
"Wheatfield Pearl"? Is that a rather subtle in-joke? Nice looking car, though. John On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:15:07 +0100, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > GEST = "Gallery Every So Toyota" ;-) > > All I had with me in the bag the other day was the Fuji F30 and I > needed to get a couple of snaps of the new car to send to my mom and > friends, so what the heck? > > http://homepage.mac.com/godders/prius-new/ > > Amusing as all heck if not sporty. It's more computer than > automobile. I keep waiting for Marvin The Paranoid Android to open > the door for me. Still on the first tankful of fuel, 380 miles and > two pips on the gauge (out of ten) left to go. That should be about > 45 mpg for starters. Drives nice, handles well. > > The Fuji F30 is about the same color, takes a darn nice snapshot. :-) > > enjoy > Godfrey > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: New Member
Excellent! J On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 19:51:34 +0100, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's pure gold Kenneth. > > Dave ;-) > > At 02:42 AM 19/08/2006, you wrote: >> Welcome to the list. >> Hope you stay. >> If all the Dougs leave we'll be... >> >> Douglas ! >> >> Kenneth Waller >> >> Had to say it > > -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO - THE Bridge
Kenneth Waller wrote: > I like it. A different take on a well photographed structure. > > Kenneth Waller > - Original Message - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: PESO - THE Bridge > > >> That's right, not a faux bridge, or a substitute bridge... THE Bridge. :-) >> >> This is about as close as I could get from this vantage point and I was >> also testing out a new wide angle zoom. >> I suppose I could have walked to the >> end, it was barricaded to cars but did not appear to be barricaded to >> foot traffic. However, it was very windy and I wasn't that motivated. It's always very windy there, isn't it... And cold! >> This is the second in a series of tourist stops/visits/day trips/trips >> that I plan to make before moving out of California next spring. You're really going to do it, huh? Do you plan to let us know where you intend to relocate? >> So although I wish I was later in the day and had caught some later or >> sunset light, this was probably my one shot at the bridge. May show some >> other photos from other vantage points later. >> >> Nothing special, really. Typical tourist shot. >> >> I've tweaked the color once already, could tweak again. >> >> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/thebridge.htm >> >> Comments welcome. >> >> Marnie aka Doe Well done, Marnie! Is that Ft. Point, looking under the bridge? Where the heck WERE you when the shutter went off? keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: GEST: pictures (was: OT: Toyota hybrid-electric drive system)
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >GEST = "Gallery Every So Toyota" ;-) > >All I had with me in the bag the other day was the Fuji F30 and I >needed to get a couple of snaps of the new car to send to my mom and >friends, so what the heck? > >http://homepage.mac.com/godders/prius-new/ Love the limited DOF in the third shot. Very trendy - it seems to be an in *look* for advertising photography these days. >Amusing as all heck if not sporty. It's more computer than >automobile. I keep waiting for Marvin The Paranoid Android to open >the door for me. That was my impression when I test drove one. I told Dr. T that it was like a space ship. Our dealer has another one in stock so I'm hoping she'll be able to take it for a test drive tomorrow. -- Mark Roberts Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
