Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Mar 29, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg

Wow, got quite a number of responses on this one.
Thanks for all your comments, and for the compliments too!

Godfrey

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[John Francis]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:16:37AM +0800, David Savage wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  After getting the K10D, I amused myself by going and looking at the
> >  DPReview review of the original ist-D - it's amazing how similar in
> >  design the two cameras are.
> 
> IMO they feel very different in the hand though.

Well, yes and no.  I'm never in any doubt as to which one I am using,
but most of the controls are in the same general position. That isn't
true for ISO, though - the K10D eliminated a drawback of the *ist D.


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Re: Earth Hour pix?

[David Savage]

I forgot it was on.

Not that I had planned to do anything different.

:-)

Cheers,

Dave

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour - ought to be some
>  scope for low-light fun.
>
>  Here's one: 
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/-big/PS080387.jpg
>  [context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/Earth-Hour]
>
>   -T

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Earth Hour pix?

[Tim Bray]

I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Hour - ought to be some
scope for low-light fun.

Here's one: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/-big/PS080387.jpg
[context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/29/Earth-Hour]

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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Right. Much more correct to say "strap on a normal lens and go for  
it." A K10D is fairly compact with a DA21 or FA43 on it.

G

On Mar 29, 2008, at 6:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> Since I assume he's taking a digital I'd suggest something a bit  
> wider,
> since the 50mm is a short telephoto on a Pentax DSLR.
>
> Rebekah wrote:
>> it's always worth it to bring your camera!  screw the bag, snap on a
>> 50 like Dave said and you're good to go!  plus, there's nothing worse
>> than that feeling of regretting leaving your camera behind...
>>
>>> Agreed.:-) Heck Rick i even take shots of wind towers at 1 am .:-)
>>>
>>> I would yake atleast a body and a 50 or something like that
>>>
 I don't go anywhere without a camera. I might not carry more  
 than just
  camera and one lens, but I will always carry it.

  You never know ...


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Re: Macro lens conundrum

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

>>> Well if you want you can join the "Unused Macro Owners Club" &
>>> consider mine as your very own unused lens.
>
> I should join this club. I have four macro lenses, none of which I  
> use all that regularly. I use
> the 200/4 the most, followed by the A100/2.8. Haven't used the 50/4  
> for years, and I pretty much
> never use the 100mm Bellows either.

Hmm. I have two macro lenses and I use both of them quite a lot. Yet  
I don't shoot much macro. What am I doing right?

G

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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Paul Stenquist]

Too good to pass up, reflections or not. And in many ways, they add  
to the poignancy of the scene. Excellent. A telling moment. Superior  
work.
Paul
On Mar 29, 2008, at 10:40 PM, David Savage wrote:
> Cute scene Christine.
>
> The reflections aren't distracting to me either.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Christine  Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>>  I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:   
>> I shot this
>>  photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the  
>> main
>>  subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I  
>> would very much
>>  like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view,  
>> greatly
>>  distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as  
>> well.
>>
>>  K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
>>
>>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
>>
>>  Cheers, Christine
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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Rick Womer]

Well, it would be better without the reflections, but
it's a nice, well-timed shot that is a definite
keeper.

I wonder how long it will take before someone invents
a digital polarizing filter for PS or Lightroom...

Rick

--- Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Everyone:
> 
> I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the
> following:  I shot this 
> photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to
> catching the main 
> subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the
> window.  I would very much 
> like to know the degree to which these reflections,
> in your view, greatly 
> distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of
> interest as well.
> 
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[John Celio]

> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg


I vote for the full frame version.  The square crop feels cramped to me. 
The foreground in the full frame version makes the image balance quite 
nicely for me.

I don't know your feelings on this sort of thing, but if that was my photo, 
I'd edit out that little person on the right side.

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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[David Savage]

Cute scene Christine.

The reflections aren't distracting to me either.

Cheers,

Dave

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
>  I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this
>  photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main
>  subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much
>  like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly
>  distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.
>
>  K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
>
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
>
>  Cheers, Christine

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RE: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Rick Womer]

Another vote for the full frame.

--- Manuel Magalhães <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The full frame says it all for me.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Manuel
> 
> -Mensagem original-
> De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Godfrey
> DiGiorgi
> Enviada: sábado, 29 de Março de 2008 22:26
> Para: DUG; PDML List; SeePhoto Talk; PAW
> Picture-A-Week project
> Assunto: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG
> 
> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I
> can't quite  
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the
> square-cropped version ...
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
> Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
> ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
> 
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Jack.  I've checked it on 3 calibrated
monitors, and the brightness is where it should be. 
The colors in the rags are rather drab in reality, and
I increased the saturation considerably in LR.  Since
I was shooting at ISO 800, noise limited the amount I
could boost things.

Rick


--- Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like the idea of the scene and your composition
> choice, but it's
> somewhat dark on my monitor. Doesn't mean it is on
> most, however.
> Would like to have a better look at the rag wheel
> and a little brighter
> colors.
> 
> Jack
> --- Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
> > Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to
> weave
> > into new cloth.
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972
> > 
> > K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.
> > 
> > There was dazzling light coming through a doorway
> to
> > the left, but the room was very dark.
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > 
> >  
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Re: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[Rick Womer]

Christine,

There was a blazing sunbeam shining on the loom just
below the lower edge of the photo.  This was as much
of it as I could include.

It is the sort of scene one would like to try shooting
at different times of day.

Rick

--- Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rick:  I agree with Jack's comments, but I still
> greatly enjoyed seeing 
> this.  I sew myself, though I don't weave, but I'm
> very interested in 
> anything textile.  Did you get any shots of the full
> loom?  And you're 
> right:  the light is very nice.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:22 PM
> Subject: PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2
> 
> 
> > This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
> > Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to
> weave
> > into new cloth.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972
> >
> > K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.
> >
> > There was dazzling light coming through a doorway
> to
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> >
> > Rick
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> >
> > 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Christian]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite  
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
> Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
> ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
> 
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
> 


hh I like the full frame better.  If I hadn't seen the 
full frame version, I'd be just as impressed with the square crop version.

I hate you, G.  Go away and take your pictures with you.  :-)

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[David Savage]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  After getting the K10D, I amused myself by going and looking at the
>  DPReview review of the original ist-D - it's amazing how similar in
>  design the two cameras are.

IMO they feel very different in the hand though.

Cheers,

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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[David Savage]

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 9:43 AM, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I did find a grease at the auto parts store that is supposed to prevent 
> dielectric welding. I
>  must see if it fixes that problem sometime.

Coppacoat based grease works great too to prevent parts seizing.

Cheers,

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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[David Savage]

So it's nothing like this?:



Cheers,

Dave

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Jerome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Set up in question: Bogen 3036 tripod with the 400mm f2.8 lens.
>
>  Problem: I'll set it up, lock all the levers, and 4 seconds later the
>  tripod starts to sink to one side. Whats happening is that the leg
>  sections are starting to slide and collapse into each other despite all of
>  the locks being tightly secured. On the lighter tripod I use for hiking
>  (3221) I can tighten things up with the hexagon shaped thingamajig and I'm
>  back in business, but that doesn't seem to work for the 3036. The latter
>  tripod seems to use more of a hydraulic system for controlling the legs
>  rather than just the screw-and-hold system of the former. So does this
>  mean that the hydraulics are just shot and I'm outta luck?
>
>  I tried a Google search but maybe I'm not using the right terms. I've also
>  sent an email to Manfrotto, but I thought I'd ask here while I wait for a
>  response. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Brian Walters]

Hi Christine

A very appealing image. Perfectly timed.

The reflections are a little distracting, mainly because it isn't
immediately obvious that they are reflections. 

It's still a 'keeper' though.


Cheers

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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:50:16 -0500, "Christine  Aguila"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi Everyone:
> 
> I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot
> this 
> photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main 
> subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very
> much 
> like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly 
> distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.
> 
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
> 
> Cheers, Christine 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Brian Walters]

Hmmm

Seems I'm the odd one out (not for the first time) :-)>

I prefer the full frame, but not by a large margin.  Wonderful tone.


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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:25:54 -0700, "Godfrey DiGiorgi"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite  
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
> 
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
> Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
> ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
> 
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
> 
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Aguila"
Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs


> William:  As a general rule, do you prefer wood tripods to the other stuff?
> I've been intrigued by the wood tripod, but don't know much about them.

The wood tripod has advantages and disadvantages. They are very good at 
absorbing vibration, but 
they tend to be HEAVY when compared to an aluminium tripod or even more, to a 
carbon fibre 
tripod of similar height and load carrying ability.
I haven't looked to see whats available in woodfor quite some time.  I am 
pretty sure the Zone 
VI tripods are no longer available new, and I doubt that they are easily found 
on the used 
market either. Berlenbach used to be very good, they would be a good brand to 
look at as well.
If you are looking for a high end tripod (wood is definitely high end), then 
also look at the 
carbon fibre ones as well. They are almost as good as wood for damping 
vibration, and weigh a 
lot less.
I don't know about cost comparisons. Gitzo makes good ones, I am sure there are 
others out 
there, possibly better or more cost effective than Gizo.

I do own a couple of metal tripods, a Montrotto 028 with an 029 (229 now), 
which has given me 
little to complain about, other than the lower column stabilizer falling apart 
in front of Tom 
Cakalic a few years ago.
I never did get it reassembled, I suppose I should.
I also have a Manfrotto 055 with what would now be a 115 head. It has the same 
problem as 
Jerome's tripod, with the added bonus feature of a self welding head.
I did find a grease at the auto parts store that is supposed to prevent 
dielectric welding. I 
must see if it fixes that problem sometime.

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RE: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Manuel Magalhães]

Hi Christine,

In my opinion it does not distratct from the photo. Th one that could
distract a bit more, the orange reflection, can be seen as part of the child
jacket.

Best regards,

Manuel 

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Christine Aguila
Enviada: sábado, 29 de Março de 2008 23:50
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Assunto: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

Hi Everyone:

I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this

photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main 
subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much

like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly 
distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.

K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178

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RE: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Manuel Magalhães]

The full frame says it all for me.

Best regards,

Manuel

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Assunto: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite  
decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
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Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee

[Jerome]

> Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it
> would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that
> a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another
> $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow
> etc..
>
> Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off

It's *your* ballpark. Charge what you want! That's the beauty of not being
a "pro" in my humble opinion. You've got no bills to pay with this cash,
so charge what you feel comfortable with. This way everyone is happy. If
they accept the price, then you'll feel compensated and they'll get their
product.
>From there, based on demand and your desire to continue,  work your price
up (or down) as you see fit.

That may not be helpful, but that's my 2 cents.



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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Bob Sullivan]

Christine,
I think the reflections are a minor disturbance and not really a distraction.
The expressions on the faces and story you tell here more than make up for it.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Christine  Aguila
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> Hi Everyone:
>
> I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this
> photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main
> subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much
> like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly
> distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.
>
> K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
>
> Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[P. J. Alling]

Since I assume he's taking a digital I'd suggest something a bit wider, 
since the 50mm is a short telephoto on a Pentax DSLR.

Rebekah wrote:
> it's always worth it to bring your camera!  screw the bag, snap on a
> 50 like Dave said and you're good to go!  plus, there's nothing worse
> than that feeling of regretting leaving your camera behind...
>
> rg2
>
> On 3/29/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't go anywhere without a camera. I might not carry more than just
>>>  camera and one lens, but I will always carry it.
>>>
>>>  You never know ...
>>>   
>> Agreed.:-) Heck Rick i even take shots of wind towers at 1 am .:-)
>>
>> I would yake atleast a body and a 50 or something like that
>>
>> Dave
>> 
>>>  Godfrey
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>>  > I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
>>>  > LAX Marriott.
>>>  >
>>>  > Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
>>>  > long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
>>>  > to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>>>  >
>>>  > Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Pets in your home, photos and fee

[P. J. Alling]

This will be the most frustrating photography you'll engage in in your 
life.  Pets make children look like a walk in the park.  Charge twice 
that and guarantee a free re-shoot, (after the pet calms down), if none 
of the pictures are good enough,  Quite often they won't be.

David J Brooks wrote:
> My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos
> of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly
> specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way.
>
> I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of
> their customers have new dogs and cats
> and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot.
>
> Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at
> odds for rates.
>
>  Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page
> article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada,
> Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget.
> These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD.
> One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to
> it.
>
> I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a
> place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park
> etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and
> grab the animal doing its thing candids.
>
> Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM.
>
> Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it
> would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that
> a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another
> $50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow
> etc..
>
> Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>   


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Pets in your home, photos and fee

[David J Brooks]

My wife works in a Pet Valu food store, and takes in my meager photos
of our cats and friends dogs as part of their monthly
specials and to help in adding extra photo work my way.

I have heard a lot of good comments from these photos, and some of
their customers have new dogs and cats
and have inquired if i would be available to do a shoot.

Of course i am, they just have to get dates organized etc, but i;'m at
odds for rates.

 Just recently in the Toronto Star newspaper, they had a 1/2 page
article on a couple of pet photographers scattered around Canada,
Toronto, Vancouver and another city i forget.
These people were charging upwards of $1400 for the sitting and CD.
One was a very experienced person, the other two just getting in to
it.

I have no intention of charging these rate, but i feel a shoot at a
place both owner and animal are comfortabel with, own home, local park
etc would be best. Try some posed shots, follow the animal around and
grab the animal doing its thing candids.

Not sure if i explained that well, but hopefully YKWIM.

Travel would be minimal, we are still a small town, but i feel it
would be appropriate for my experience, and sense of fair play, that
a rate of $50-60 for an hour shoot, and put a CD together add another
$50-60 for time, PS work, maybe a bit more for a musical slideshow
etc..

Am i in the ball park out am i way out of line to start off

Dave



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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[John Francis]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 04:22:16PM -0500, Charles Robinson wrote:
> On Mar 29, 2008, at 16:01, John Francis wrote:
> > The DL was basically the same as the DS, but the original D was  
> > different.
> > Quite apart from the fact that it took CF cards, not SD media, it  
> > also had
> > the two-wheel control interface found on the PZ-1p (and now the K10D/ 
> > K20D).
> >
> 
> After getting the K10D, I amused myself by going and looking at the  
> DPReview review of the original ist-D - it's amazing how similar in  
> design the two cameras are.  With the exception of the weather  
> sealing, SR, larger screen and 10 megapixel sensor, the two cameras  
> are actually quite similar.
> 
>   -Charles

Oh, I agree :-)   That's why I, among many other D owners here, waited
for the K10D to come along before purchasing a new body.  But then I
love the two-wheel ergonomics I had on the PZ-1p; although I did get
the MZ-S when it came out for the improved auto-focus I never really
took to it, and continued to use the PZ-1p a lot of the time.

What I like best about the K10D, though, is the additional shooting
modes (promoting ISO almost to a par with shutter speed & aperture) -
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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[David J Brooks]

Good photo. Reflections, to me are not annoying at all. They tell you its real.

Dave

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
>  I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this
>  photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main
>  subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much
>  like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly
>  distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.
>
>  K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
>
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
>
>  Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: My first book

[David J Brooks]

Glad to hear that. Good cover btw.

My book has hit a stall mate for now:-)

Dave

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Margus Männik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>  My first own book came from printshop wednesday. I have translated over
>  a ten photography handbooks, but writing a new one is a whole different
>  story. Sorry to disappoint you - it's not a Pentax book. Sony ordered it
>  to promote their Alpha SLR cameras in Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian
>  markets (so the book is already translated into latvian and lithuanian
>  languages).
>  BTW, there IS a good possibility for similar Pentax book in future.
>
>  Cover shot of actual book:
>  http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/alpha_cover.jpg
>  (Title translation: The Wonderful World of Sony Alpha)
>
>  BR, Margus
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

Not sure. I like the square version, but the first version seems to
have a more sureal feel to it.

Winner no matter which way you go

Dave

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite
>  decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
>
>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
>  Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
>  Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>  ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
>
>  Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
>  enjoy
>  Godfrey
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Re: PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Tim Bray]

Awww cuteness overload.  -T

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
>  I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this
>  photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main
>  subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much
>  like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly
>  distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.
>
>  K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6
>
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178
>
>  Cheers, Christine
>
>
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Rebekah]

it's always worth it to bring your camera!  screw the bag, snap on a
50 like Dave said and you're good to go!  plus, there's nothing worse
than that feeling of regretting leaving your camera behind...

rg2

On 3/29/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't go anywhere without a camera. I might not carry more than just
> >  camera and one lens, but I will always carry it.
> >
> >  You never know ...
>
> Agreed.:-) Heck Rick i even take shots of wind towers at 1 am .:-)
>
> I would yake atleast a body and a 50 or something like that
>
> Dave
> >
> >  Godfrey
> >
> >
> >  On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
> >  > I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> >  > LAX Marriott.
> >  >
> >  > Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> >  > long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> >  > to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
> >  >
> >  > Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OT One down one to go

[David J Brooks]

Thanks Christine.
This trip is back to my old stomping grounds of the 80's and 90's
during the big pipeline construction days.
I like it up in those parts.

This time, he has to realize i'v quit for good. I have a job with Laidlaw.:-)

Dave

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave:  Have a good & safe trip.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
>
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "David J Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "Pentax Discuss" 
>  Cc: "Barbara Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Harry Bolton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>  "Yvette Sheppard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:30 PM
>  Subject: OT One down one to go
>
>
>  > Passed my road test, so now i'm a card carrying school bus driver.
>  >
>  > My old boss, called and is short 1 guy for next week, to escort a wind
>  > tower
>  > tip to Pigeon River on the Ont Minny border, so i'll do that for him.
>  >
>  > Sounds like i can then get a route that goes to  a French immersion
>  > school as that driver will be going to
>  > the local mass transit department.
>  >
>  > God i;m in trouble now.:-)
>  >
>  > Dave
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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Jerome]

> I don't recall what Ken uses, I think he changed tripods
> since I met him. I use a Zone VI  Standard wood tripod under a
> Wimberley gimbal head with my 600mm lens. It is an excellent
> combination, though it is by no means light.


Wimberley.   (envious sigh). One day I'll try one of those things.

Problem is, I use the 400mm so infrequently that I can barely justify
buying a lens cloth for it, let alone a new tripod or head. I think today
was the first time I used it in about 4 years, if not longer. And if I
can't get this tripod thing figured out, it may be another four before the
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Re: My first book

[Rebekah]

cool, congratulations!

rg2

On 3/29/08, Christine  Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Congrats, Margus.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Margus Männik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 3:53 PM
> Subject: My first book
>
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > My first own book came from printshop wednesday. I have translated over
> > a ten photography handbooks, but writing a new one is a whole different
> > story. Sorry to disappoint you - it's not a Pentax book. Sony ordered it
> > to promote their Alpha SLR cameras in Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian
> > markets (so the book is already translated into latvian and lithuanian
> > languages).
> > BTW, there IS a good possibility for similar Pentax book in future.
> >
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> > (Title translation: The Wonderful World of Sony Alpha)
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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Christine Aguila]

William:  As a general rule, do you prefer wood tripods to the other stuff? 
I've been intrigued by the wood tripod, but don't know much about them. 
Cheers, Christine


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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jerome"
> Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs
>
>
>
>>
>> Thanks though. Hopefully Manfrotto / Bogen Co. will have some good news
>> for me. Or maybe one of the big glass wielders like Cassino or Waller 
>> will
>> chime in with a similar experience.
>
> I don't recall what Ken uses, I think he changed tripods since I met him. 
> I use a Zone VI
> Standard wood tripod under a Wimberley gimbal head with my 600mm lens. It 
> is an excellent
> combination, though it is by no means light.
>
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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Jerome]

> Manfrotto seems to have used a few different
> styles of leg lock on that tripod, and frankly,
> they all are crap

So... what your saying is that your a huge fan of Bogen tripods, eh?
LOL... Thanks though. You hit it on the head...

> The flip lever style of lock will barely hold the
> weight of the tripod when new 

I guess that's the type I'm talking about, and the other one is the snap
lock that you mentioned. Or do I still have it backwards?  Anyway, I
see your point either way: Your vote is for a different tripod altogether.
Can't say I have the money now (just got the two new DA* lenses) but I'll
keep that in mind. Either way, the damn thing is supposed to hold up to 26
pounds... so it's a little frustrating that it can't do what it's supposed
to (but then I guess that's your point).


> either the 028, which is a very heavy beast,

I cannot even fathom getting a HEAVIER tripod than I already own. As it
stands, the 3036 is about twice my body weight (at least it feels that way
sometimes). Anyhow, thanks again! I'll let you know the verdict.

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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jerome"
Subject: Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs



>
> Thanks though. Hopefully Manfrotto / Bogen Co. will have some good news
> for me. Or maybe one of the big glass wielders like Cassino or Waller will
> chime in with a similar experience.

I don't recall what Ken uses, I think he changed tripods since I met him. I use 
a Zone VI 
Standard wood tripod under a Wimberley gimbal head with my 600mm lens. It is an 
excellent 
combination, though it is by no means light.

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Re: Macro lens conundrum

[William Robb]

>
> David Savage wrote:
>> Well if you want you can join the "Unused Macro Owners Club" &
>> consider mine as your very own unused lens.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dave

I should join this club. I have four macro lenses, none of which I use all that 
regularly. I use 
the 200/4 the most, followed by the A100/2.8. Haven't used the 50/4 for years, 
and I pretty much 
never use the 100mm Bellows either.

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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Jerome]

Christine,

Thanks for the reply. For my lighter, less expensive tripod (3221) I do
have the tool you mentioned  and know exactly what you're talking about...
but that doesn't seem to work for the 3036 for whatever reason. The legs
just keep on sliding...

Thanks though. Hopefully Manfrotto / Bogen Co. will have some good news
for me. Or maybe one of the big glass wielders like Cassino or Waller will
chime in with a similar experience.

... ?


> Jerome:  This happened to me on a different tripod & I had to take it to
> the
> camera shop to have someone tighten the lever screws.  Also, I don't know
> about your tripod, but it turned out I had a little plastic screw driver
> gizmo that was attached to my tripod leg, which I can now use (now that
> I'm
> aware that it's there) to tighten lever screws.  I have one of those
> tripods
> from Calumet Photo, not a fancy name brand, but maybe since you have
> levers,
> this might fix your problem.  My problem is now fixed.  Haven't had any
> problems.  HTH.
> Cheers, Christine


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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Jerome"
Subject: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs


> Set up in question: Bogen 3036 tripod with the 400mm f2.8 lens.
>
> Problem: I'll set it up, lock all the levers, and 4 seconds later the
> tripod starts to sink to one side. Whats happening is that the leg
> sections are starting to slide and collapse into each other despite all of
> the locks being tightly secured. On the lighter tripod I use for hiking
> (3221) I can tighten things up with the hexagon shaped thingamajig and I'm
> back in business, but that doesn't seem to work for the 3036. The latter
> tripod seems to use more of a hydraulic system for controlling the legs
> rather than just the screw-and-hold system of the former. So does this
> mean that the hydraulics are just shot and I'm outta luck?
>
> I tried a Google search but maybe I'm not using the right terms. I've also
> sent an email to Manfrotto, but I thought I'd ask here while I wait for a
> response. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Manfrotto seems to have used a few different styles of leg lock on that tripod, 
and frankly, 
they all are crap. The flip lever style of lock will barely hold the weight of 
the tripod when 
new, and just gets worse as the unit wears out, which takes about 3 set up and 
tear down cycles. 
The snap lock is just about as bad, but can't be adjusted to work properly.
I would never trust that tripod with a lens as heavy as a 400/2.8. I think you 
need to look at 
either the 028, which is a very heavy beast, but it at least has decent leg 
locks, or else 
perhaps look at a Gitzo or one of the wood tripods.

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Re: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Christine Aguila]

Jerome:  This happened to me on a different tripod & I had to take it to the 
camera shop to have someone tighten the lever screws.  Also, I don't know 
about your tripod, but it turned out I had a little plastic screw driver 
gizmo that was attached to my tripod leg, which I can now use (now that I'm 
aware that it's there) to tighten lever screws.  I have one of those tripods 
from Calumet Photo, not a fancy name brand, but maybe since you have levers, 
this might fix your problem.  My problem is now fixed.  Haven't had any 
problems.  HTH.
Cheers, Christine


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Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 6:36 PM
Subject: Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs


> Set up in question: Bogen 3036 tripod with the 400mm f2.8 lens.
>
> Problem: I'll set it up, lock all the levers, and 4 seconds later the
> tripod starts to sink to one side. Whats happening is that the leg
> sections are starting to slide and collapse into each other despite all of
> the locks being tightly secured. On the lighter tripod I use for hiking
> (3221) I can tighten things up with the hexagon shaped thingamajig and I'm
> back in business, but that doesn't seem to work for the 3036. The latter
> tripod seems to use more of a hydraulic system for controlling the legs
> rather than just the screw-and-hold system of the former. So does this
> mean that the hydraulics are just shot and I'm outta luck?
>
> I tried a Google search but maybe I'm not using the right terms. I've also
> sent an email to Manfrotto, but I thought I'd ask here while I wait for a
> response. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
>
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Charles Robinson]

On Mar 29, 2008, at 17:25, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped  
> version ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg

Delicious!  I like the haze/fog/whatever in the sky around the tower  
and moon.  Whatever it is which is affecting the light there.  This  
has the feel of something in Morocco or something like that, not the  
heart of Silicon Valley.

I think I like the square one better because one can see more detail  
in the buildings.

But now that I've said it, I'm flipping back and forth between the two  
tabs in Firefox and I can't make up my mind solidly either.

Hmm..

  -Charles

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PESO: Through the Window at McDonald's: A Family Cell Phone Moment

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Everyone:

I'm very interested in knowing your views on the the following:  I shot this 
photo through a McDonald's window &, in addition to catching the main 
subject of the photo, I caught reflections in the window.  I would very much 
like to know the degree to which these reflections, in your view, greatly 
distract from the photo. Any other annoyances are of interest as well.

K10D, DA* 50-135mm, 135mm, ISO 200, 1/100 sec @ f5.6

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7112178

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Re: Macro lens conundrum

[Cory Waters]

Well Dave,
I'll send you my address straight away.  I'm off to Washington D.C. for 
vacation on Friday afternoon though so if you could be sure to post the 
lens on Monday and next day air if you please...

CW

David Savage wrote:
> Well if you want you can join the "Unused Macro Owners Club" &
> consider mine as your very own unused lens.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Cory Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Good God y'all... all these unused macros around and not ONE in my
>>  cupboard :(
>>  CW
>> 
>
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Help Needed: Sliding Bogen tripod legs

[Jerome]

Set up in question: Bogen 3036 tripod with the 400mm f2.8 lens.

Problem: I'll set it up, lock all the levers, and 4 seconds later the
tripod starts to sink to one side. Whats happening is that the leg
sections are starting to slide and collapse into each other despite all of
the locks being tightly secured. On the lighter tripod I use for hiking
(3221) I can tighten things up with the hexagon shaped thingamajig and I'm
back in business, but that doesn't seem to work for the 3036. The latter
tripod seems to use more of a hydraulic system for controlling the legs
rather than just the screw-and-hold system of the former. So does this
mean that the hydraulics are just shot and I'm outta luck?

I tried a Google search but maybe I'm not using the right terms. I've also
sent an email to Manfrotto, but I thought I'd ask here while I wait for a
response. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.




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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Adam Maas]

On 3/29/08, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:57:08AM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>  > I'm kind of confused on this.
>  > What's the question here, what's the worst Pentax digital SLR model?
>  > What have we seen - 3 different form factors, maybe 2?
>  > There was the *istD, the *istDs, and the K10D.
>  > I don't think the *istD and the *istDs were very different.
>  > Both were nearly identical bodies...just a slightly bigger screen on the 
> *istDs?
>  > And weren't the remaining *istDL and such the same form factor,
>  > just a porro mirror instead instead of the prism...so no change in body.
>
>
> The DL was basically the same as the DS, but the original D was different.
>  Quite apart from the fact that it took CF cards, not SD media, it also had
>  the two-wheel control interface found on the PZ-1p (and now the K10D/K20D).
>

And the handgrip is significantly smaller on the D. I found the DS to
be the best handling of the Pentax bodies due to having the largest
and most ergonomic grip. The K100D is very similar while the K10D has
less depth to the grip than a DS, but much more than the D.
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Cotty]

On 29/3/08, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite  
>decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
>http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
>Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
>Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec

Square. Beautiful.

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Re: OT - In the bizzarre category...

[Steve Desjardins]

At least the gator did better than that little dog did.

>>> Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/29/2008 5:42 PM >>>


Snake bursts after swallowing gator

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Jerome]

> What *did* bother me was the control layout of the MZ-S. I *loved* the
> overall ergonomics, but missed the dual-control-wheel setup of the PZ-1p
> (and ist-D and K10d). If the MZ-S had that control setup I *never* would
> have sold it. Ever. It would have been my "film camera to keep forever".

Funny you should mention the MZ-S. It took me FOREVER to sell it even
though I knew I had no further use for it. I just loved the ergonomics of
it that much. More to the point, as I was shooting today at the zoo with
the K10D tripod mounted just a few inches above eye level, I was reminded
once again of how totally cool the slanted top panel of the MZ-S was in
such situations. It allowed me to read the settings and keep track of
changes very easily from different angles of view.  Plus it just looked
neat :o) That seemed like such a slick *and* practical design. I haven't a
clue why it never transferred to future camera designs.

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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Paul Sorenson]

What Christine said...

-p

Christine Aguila wrote:
> Godfrey:  I prefer the square crop.  All that foreground just doesn't add 
> anything to the photo for me.  Building  et all is of more interest to me. 
> HTH.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "DUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PDML List" ; 
> "SeePhoto Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "PAW Picture-A-Week project" 
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> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:25 PM
> Subject: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG
> 
> 
>> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite
>> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
>>
>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
>> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
>> Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
>> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
>> ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
>>
>> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>>
>> enjoy
>> Godfrey
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Re: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[Christine Aguila]

Rick:  I agree with Jack's comments, but I still greatly enjoyed seeing 
this.  I sew myself, though I don't weave, but I'm very interested in 
anything textile.  Did you get any shots of the full loom?  And you're 
right:  the light is very nice.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2


> This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
> Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to weave
> into new cloth.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972
>
> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.
>
> There was dazzling light coming through a doorway to
> the left, but the room was very dark.
>
> Rick
>
>
> 
> 
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Re: PESO - A snowfall to save the season

[Christine Aguila]

P.S.  My husband really liked it too.  I forgot to tell you in the other 
post.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - A snowfall to save the season


> This year has been very meagre for snow crystal photography around
> here, but last Monday it all came together. So here's one sample of
> this year's quite small, but still existant, production:
>
> Blogpost:
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/snowfall-to-save-season.html
>
> JPEG only:
> http://bp1.blogger.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/R-wYmC6LzCI/AIc/tp7XlxUiOOo/s1600-h/20080324-0040.jpg
>
> Best,
> Jostein
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Re: OT One down one to go

[Christine Aguila]

Dave:  Have a good & safe trip.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: OT One down one to go


> Passed my road test, so now i'm a card carrying school bus driver.
>
> My old boss, called and is short 1 guy for next week, to escort a wind 
> tower
> tip to Pigeon River on the Ont Minny border, so i'll do that for him.
>
> Sounds like i can then get a route that goes to  a French immersion
> school as that driver will be going to
> the local mass transit department.
>
> God i;m in trouble now.:-)
>
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Re: PESO - A snowfall to save the season

[Christine Aguila]

Very Lovely, Jostein.  Enjoyed seeing this.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO - A snowfall to save the season


> This year has been very meagre for snow crystal photography around
> here, but last Monday it all came together. So here's one sample of
> this year's quite small, but still existant, production:
>
> Blogpost:
> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2008/03/snowfall-to-save-season.html
>
> JPEG only:
> http://bp1.blogger.com/_VWBjZjc1fI4/R-wYmC6LzCI/AIc/tp7XlxUiOOo/s1600-h/20080324-0040.jpg
>
> Best,
> Jostein
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Re: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Christine Aguila]

Godfrey:  I prefer the square crop.  All that foreground just doesn't add 
anything to the photo for me.  Building  et all is of more interest to me. 
HTH.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG


> This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite
> decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
> http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
> Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
> Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
> ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec
>
> Comments and critique always appreciated.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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Re: My first book

[Christine Aguila]

Congrats, Margus.  Cheers, Christine


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Subject: My first book


> Hi there,
>
> My first own book came from printshop wednesday. I have translated over
> a ten photography handbooks, but writing a new one is a whole different
> story. Sorry to disappoint you - it's not a Pentax book. Sony ordered it
> to promote their Alpha SLR cameras in Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian
> markets (so the book is already translated into latvian and lithuanian
> languages).
> BTW, there IS a good possibility for similar Pentax book in future.
>
> Cover shot of actual book:
> http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/alpha_cover.jpg
> (Title translation: The Wonderful World of Sony Alpha)
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> BR, Margus
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Re: El Dorado

[Christine Aguila]

I agree with Dave!  Cheers, Christine


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> Thnaks Bob.
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> Great photos. We should be thankfull for what we all have.
>
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Re: El Dorado

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Thnaks Bob.

Great photos. We should be thankfull for what we all have.

Dave

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> A gold mine in Brazil:
>  http://www.foto8.com/home/content/view/398/161/
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>  Slide show with voiceover.
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OT One down one to go

[David J Brooks]

Passed my road test, so now i'm a card carrying school bus driver.

My old boss, called and is short 1 guy for next week, to escort a wind tower
tip to Pigeon River on the Ont Minny border, so i'll do that for him.

Sounds like i can then get a route that goes to  a French immersion
school as that driver will be going to
the local mass transit department.

God i;m in trouble now.:-)

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Re: PESO: toddlers and shark

[David J Brooks]

Good shot. The happiness seen ion the kids is great

Dave

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Taken at the Maui Ocean Center.  The toddlers are awfully cute.
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/3c6zm2
>  http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/25/-big/PS080353.jpg
>
>  The containing blog entry has some general remarks on the state of the
>  photographic art:
>  http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2008/03/25/Camera-News
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>   -T
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PESO 2008 - 55 - GDG

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

This photo was made at an evening shoot last week. I can't quite  
decide whether I prefer the full frame or the square-cropped version ...

http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-01.jpg
http://homepage.mac.com/godders/55-moonrise-02.jpg
Moonrise Over The Quad - Palo Alto 2008
Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH
ISO 400 @ f/1.4 @ 1/200 sec

Comments and critique always appreciated.

enjoy
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Re: PESOs - Bowman's Beach

[David J Brooks]

Like the last two, I have no intention of seeing PJ's legs.:-)

The silloette is good and the sunset is great

Dave
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rather than three separate messages, one message with three pictures.
>  3 for the price of 1. What a bargain!
>
>  All three were taken on Bowman's Beach on Sanibel Island. We went here
>  in the afternoon after we got tired of chasing birds in Ding Darling.
>
>  http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2440.jpg.html
>
>  http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2439.jpg.html
>
>  http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2467.jpg.html
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>  Comments welcome. No mis-named birds here.
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>  -Mat
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Re: OT - In the bizzarre category...

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>
>  Snake bursts after swallowing gator

You want fries with that McAtor.

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Re: OT - In the bizzarre category...

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WOUGH! That's a whole new cateGORY.

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OT - In the bizzarre category...

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

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On Mar 29, 2008, at 16:01, John Francis wrote:
> The DL was basically the same as the DS, but the original D was  
> different.
> Quite apart from the fact that it took CF cards, not SD media, it  
> also had
> the two-wheel control interface found on the PZ-1p (and now the K10D/ 
> K20D).
>

After getting the K10D, I amused myself by going and looking at the  
DPReview review of the original ist-D - it's amazing how similar in  
design the two cameras are.  With the exception of the weather  
sealing, SR, larger screen and 10 megapixel sensor, the two cameras  
are actually quite similar.

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Re: PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[Jack Davis]

I like the idea of the scene and your composition choice, but it's
somewhat dark on my monitor. Doesn't mean it is on most, however.
Would like to have a better look at the rag wheel and a little brighter
colors.

Jack
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> This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
> Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to weave
> into new cloth.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972
> 
> K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.
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> There was dazzling light coming through a doorway to
> the left, but the room was very dark.
> 
> Rick
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Re: PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[David J Brooks]

I like it.

Maybe a bit cluttered for ground, but the towel? rack looks good.

I hope that makes sense.

Dave

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> This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
>  Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to weave
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>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972
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>  K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.
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>  There was dazzling light coming through a doorway to
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't go anywhere without a camera. I might not carry more than just
>  camera and one lens, but I will always carry it.
>
>  You never know ...

Agreed.:-) Heck Rick i even take shots of wind towers at 1 am .:-)

I would yake atleast a body and a 50 or something like that

Dave
>
>  Godfrey
>
>
>  On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
>  > I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
>  > LAX Marriott.
>  >
>  > Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
>  > long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
>  > to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>  >
>  > Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

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On 29/3/08, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Is it worth taking the camera bag along?

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

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On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:57:08AM -0500, Bob Sullivan wrote:
> I'm kind of confused on this.
> What's the question here, what's the worst Pentax digital SLR model?
> What have we seen - 3 different form factors, maybe 2?
> There was the *istD, the *istDs, and the K10D.
> I don't think the *istD and the *istDs were very different.
> Both were nearly identical bodies...just a slightly bigger screen on the 
> *istDs?
> And weren't the remaining *istDL and such the same form factor,
> just a porro mirror instead instead of the prism...so no change in body.

The DL was basically the same as the DS, but the original D was different.
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PESO: On Magnolia Plantation 2

[Rick Womer]

This is a loom in the slave quarters on Magnolia
Plantation.  The slave unravelled old rags to weave
into new cloth.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7111972

K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 800, f/6.7 @ 1/15, RAW via LR.

There was dazzling light coming through a doorway to
the left, but the room was very dark.

Rick


  

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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Tim Bray]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:37 PM, keith_w <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  On the other hand, if you have a full day to use up, DO bring your
>  camera and a good zoom lens. At least 35mm-75mm, Down to 28 if you can,
>  up to 100mm + if possible, You'll find subjects for all ranges.

Or on the other hand, just slap on the 40mm pancake and you can walk
around all day carrying it one hand and feeling no strain.If you
want more flexibility, the 21mm prime will fit in a pocket.  It's
amazing the range of pictures that 40mm will take.

>  Bring your walking shoes.

Now that's crucial photographers' wisdom.

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Steve Sharpe]

At 3:50 PM -0400 3/29/08, Scott Loveless wrote:
>Mark Roberts wrote:
>>  Scott Loveless wrote:
>>>  Adam Maas wrote:
  The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
  bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting
  mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
  camera as well.

>>>  I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found
>>>  the *istD much more pleasant to hold.
>>
>>  I don't think you're odd (well, about this, anyway...)
>>  I prefer the feel if the ist-D to the K10D. It's a slight preference,
>>  though; not enough to bother me.
>>
>>  What *did* bother me was the control layout of the MZ-S. I *loved* the
>>  overall ergonomics, but missed the dual-control-wheel setup of the PZ-1p
>>  (and ist-D and K10d). If the MZ-S had that control setup I *never* would
>>  have sold it. Ever. It would have been my "film camera to keep forever".
>>
>>
>I've only used an MZ-S a couple of times and found the layout to be
>non-intuitive.  Actually reading the manual would have helped.  The PZ-1
>has a wonderful interface, though.  I only wish it was built to the same
>standards as the MZ-S.

Funny! I am just the opposite regarding the MZ-S...I found its 
control layout to be very intuitive and easy to use. I think it is a 
lovely handling camera...especially with the grip. I think that is 
one of the two reasons that I have never really taken to the 
*istD...a non-intuitive interface with controls that are readily 
accessible on the MZ-S requiring multiple button pushes and wheel 
turnings on the *istD. I am slowly getting used to turning the wheel 
to adjust the aperture instead of twisting a ring. The camera is also 
just a little small to grip comfortably for me.

I have just ordered the grip for the *istD from KEH...I expect that 
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Scott Loveless]

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>>> The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
>>> bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting
>>> mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
>>> camera as well.
>>>
>> I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found 
>> the *istD much more pleasant to hold.
> 
> I don't think you're odd (well, about this, anyway...)
> I prefer the feel if the ist-D to the K10D. It's a slight preference, 
> though; not enough to bother me.
> 
> What *did* bother me was the control layout of the MZ-S. I *loved* the 
> overall ergonomics, but missed the dual-control-wheel setup of the PZ-1p 
> (and ist-D and K10d). If the MZ-S had that control setup I *never* would 
> have sold it. Ever. It would have been my "film camera to keep forever".
> 
> 
I've only used an MZ-S a couple of times and found the layout to be 
non-intuitive.  Actually reading the manual would have helped.  The PZ-1 
has a wonderful interface, though.  I only wish it was built to the same 
standards as the MZ-S.

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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[keith_w]

Ken Waller wrote:
>> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?

> For me it would depend alot on the time of day you'd be free to roam (ie 
> early morning/late day) . The Marina Del Ray area has lots of nautical 
> possibilities
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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Yeahbut... MDR covers a LOT of area!
If you only work your way up and down the shoreline, you've got a few 
miles of walking. Covers a lot of territory...

On the other hand, if you have a full day to use up, DO bring your 
camera and a good zoom lens. At least 35mm-75mm, Down to 28 if you can, 
up to 100mm + if possible, You'll find subjects for all ranges.
Bring your walking shoes.
Almost any place has cabs available, or you can easily find a phone and 
call one.
Cab fare to and from your hotel will be minimal.
I live a couple miles north east of MDR, and a cab to the airport is 
only $20.

Venice beach boardwalk on a weekend is a must! It's long, north to 
south, but worth it.
North end nestles up against the south end of Santa Monica beach 
activities, and the south end leads directly to Marina del Rey beaches.
Hardly any break between the two, but...if you're a dedicated walker, 
you can do it in a long day, north to south, and there are plenty of 
eating and drinking places along the whole stretch!

Good luck, and take a lot of photos!

keith whaley
Local resident for over 40 years!

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?
> 
> 
>> I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
>> LAX Marriott.
>>
>> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
>> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
>> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>>
>> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>>
>> Rick
> 
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New printer

[Bill Owens]

After several years of being disgusted with our Brother all in one, we
bought a new Epson CX9400FAX.  So far it is working flawlessly.  I've
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Mark Roberts]

Scott Loveless wrote:
> Adam Maas wrote:
>> The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
>> bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting
>> mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
>> camera as well.
>>
> I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found 
> the *istD much more pleasant to hold.

I don't think you're odd (well, about this, anyway...)
I prefer the feel if the ist-D to the K10D. It's a slight preference, 
though; not enough to bother me.

What *did* bother me was the control layout of the MZ-S. I *loved* the 
overall ergonomics, but missed the dual-control-wheel setup of the PZ-1p 
(and ist-D and K10d). If the MZ-S had that control setup I *never* would 
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Stan Halpin]

The beach front and pier at Marina del Rey have possibilities as does  
the marina itself. When I was there most recently,  in January, I had  
my Optio 555 with me but left it in the hotel room and missed a  
couple of evening shots of fishermen on the pier... I wouldn't take a  
full bag, but a single body with 16-45 or 16-50 or 20-35 could be  
worth it... The taxi ride to Marina would be worth it just to get to  
an interesting restaurant (in contrast to the plastic hotel  
restaurants in the Century Blvd. area).  I don't recall the name, but  
as you walk down the main street towards the pier, on the left toward  
the end is a nice Italian place. On the other side of the marina  
(south end, other side of the inlet) there are several good places on  
the right side near the end of the road before the Coast Guard  
station. Note - this is about a two-mile walk from the old area  
around the pier because you have to circle inland around the whole  
marina area.

stan

On Mar 29, 2008, at 11:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

> I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> LAX Marriott.
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>
> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>
> Rick
>
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I don't go anywhere without a camera. I might not carry more than just  
camera and one lens, but I will always carry it.

You never know ...

Godfrey

On Mar 29, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Rick Womer wrote:
> I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> LAX Marriott.
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>
> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?


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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Ken Waller]

> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?

For me it would depend alot on the time of day you'd be free to roam (ie 
early morning/late day) . The Marina Del Ray area has lots of nautical 
possibilities

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?


>I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> LAX Marriott.
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>
> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>
> Rick


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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[P. J. Alling]

If you don't something interesting will happen, if you do nothing will.  
If you plan to get to the beach your itinerary won't allow it.  If you 
don't something will get canceled and you'll have plenty of time. So 
take the bag what could it hurt.

Rick Womer wrote:
> I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> LAX Marriott.
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>
> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>
> Rick
>
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Re: LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Bob Sullivan]

Rick,
I have only been thru LAX 1 time when the sky was clear.
By the afternoon, the brown haze had returned.
So no good landscapes...
Marina Del Rey is near enough for a dinner, but still pretty urban.
I would think something like Venice beach would be more photogenic.
Maybe the Santa Monica pier?
Taking the camera to the hotel is nothing special.
Century Blvd. is hotel strip surrounded by 2 miles of industrial
airport warehouses.
East of the 405 'there be dragons'...
Regards,  Bob S.


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> I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
> LAX Marriott.
>
> Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
> long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
> to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.
>
> Is it worth taking the camera bag along?
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: Macro lens conundrum

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
Remember our motto - "You can never have too many lenses."
Or are you suggesting something new?
Maybe a time sharing deal?
Kind of like owning some gold bullion in Dave's vault?
Regards, Bob S.

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, David Savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well if you want you can join the "Unused Macro Owners Club" &
> consider mine as your very own unused lens.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
>
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Bob Sullivan]

I'm kind of confused on this.
What's the question here, what's the worst Pentax digital SLR model?
What have we seen - 3 different form factors, maybe 2?
There was the *istD, the *istDs, and the K10D.
I don't think the *istD and the *istDs were very different.
Both were nearly identical bodies...just a slightly bigger screen on the *istDs?
And weren't the remaining *istDL and such the same form factor,
just a porro mirror instead instead of the prism...so no change in body.
And the K10D and K20D are so close I fear mixing them up if I'm not careful.
They are identical except for the slightly bigger screen fitted onto the K20D.
Handed one or the other in the dark, you would have trouble telling
which you held.

So what's the question here?
Do you like form factor A, the smaller one or form factor B, the bigger one???
I still like the *istDs size and weight (& no battery pack).
It is more in line with the traditionally smaller Pentax size 35mm camera.
If I had a say in the design, I would like a Ds size camera with the 2
wheels, one front & one back.
I've grown used to these since the PZ-1.

As it stands, I'm adjusting to the bigger size of the K20D.

Regards,  Bob S.



On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:17 AM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I shoot both the *ist-D and the *ist-Ds I find both to have their pusses
> and minuses.  However they are essentially the same camera.  I haven't
> much experience with later models, but I found all of the *ist-D[x]
> cameras and the K1xxD cameras that I handled to be essentially the same,
> for handling at least.  The K10D until the K20D was released was in the
> same position as the *ist-D kind of a one off but a much larger camera,
> though in real terms the size difference between the *ist-D[x]/K1xxD and
> the K10D was about the same as between a MX and an LX.  No the anomalous
> DSLR in the Pentax family is the one I have no hope of owning or even
> holding, the MR-52/MZ-D/K1D, (depending on which designation you
> prefer).  Different materials, (titanium body shell?), different
> interface, (requires lenses with an aperture ring), full frame sensor,
> aperture simulator, very expensive, (in the $5000+ dollar range).
> Aiming more or less for the same market as the Leica 8M, where as the
> current offerings are aiming for working wedding photographers and
> experienced amateurs/semi pro photographers who want the most value for
> their money.
>
> Roman Melihhov wrote:
> > Which Pentax DSLR's you consider as anomalous/awkward either by their
> > intent/design or features? Your input is appreciated.
> >
> > Roman.
> >
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LAX trip: worth carrying the camera bag?

[Rick Womer]

I have a trip next week to a meeting in the luxurious
LAX Marriott.

Looking at Google Maps, I observe that the beach is a
long 3-mile walk.  A 5 or 6 mile cab ride will get me
to Marina Del Ray.  Time is going to be limited.

Is it worth taking the camera bag along?

Rick


  

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Re: Macro lens conundrum

[David Savage]

Well if you want you can join the "Unused Macro Owners Club" &
consider mine as your very own unused lens.

Cheers,

Dave

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> Good God y'all... all these unused macros around and not ONE in my
>  cupboard :(
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Re: PESOs - Bowman's Beach

[P. J. Alling]

You want to pay my way, but I doubt you'll like the results...

Mat Maessen wrote:
> On 3/29/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I really like the first one,   bit it really needs the legs of a willowy
>>  model standing next to the orange object.
>> 
>
> Are you volunteering? ;-)
>
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Re: PESOs - Bowman's Beach

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On 3/29/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I really like the first one,   bit it really needs the legs of a willowy
>  model standing next to the orange object.

Are you volunteering? ;-)

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Re: PESOs - Bowman's Beach

[P. J. Alling]

I really like the first one,   bit it really needs the legs of a willowy 
model standing next to the orange object.

Mat Maessen wrote:
> Rather than three separate messages, one message with three pictures.
> 3 for the price of 1. What a bargain!
>
> All three were taken on Bowman's Beach on Sanibel Island. We went here
> in the afternoon after we got tired of chasing birds in Ding Darling.
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2440.jpg.html
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2439.jpg.html
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2467.jpg.html
>
> Comments welcome. No mis-named birds here.
>
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[P. J. Alling]

I shoot both the *ist-D and the *ist-Ds I find both to have their pusses 
and minuses.  However they are essentially the same camera.  I haven't 
much experience with later models, but I found all of the *ist-D[x] 
cameras and the K1xxD cameras that I handled to be essentially the same, 
for handling at least.  The K10D until the K20D was released was in the 
same position as the *ist-D kind of a one off but a much larger camera, 
though in real terms the size difference between the *ist-D[x]/K1xxD and 
the K10D was about the same as between a MX and an LX.  No the anomalous 
DSLR in the Pentax family is the one I have no hope of owning or even 
holding, the MR-52/MZ-D/K1D, (depending on which designation you 
prefer).  Different materials, (titanium body shell?), different 
interface, (requires lenses with an aperture ring), full frame sensor, 
aperture simulator, very expensive, (in the $5000+ dollar range).  
Aiming more or less for the same market as the Leica 8M, where as the 
current offerings are aiming for working wedding photographers and 
experienced amateurs/semi pro photographers who want the most value for 
their money.

Roman Melihhov wrote:
> Which Pentax DSLR's you consider as anomalous/awkward either by their 
> intent/design or features? Your input is appreciated.
>
> Roman.
>
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Tim Bray]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found
>  the *istD much more pleasant to hold.  Most people who have used both
>  give me a crooked stare when I admit this.

Me too, with the *istD and K20D.  Mind you, I carried the *ist for 4.5
years and the K20 for 3 weeks so far :)

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Scott Loveless]

Tim Bray wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Scott Loveless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>  I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found
>>  the *istD much more pleasant to hold.  Most people who have used both
>>  give me a crooked stare when I admit this.
> 
> Me too, with the *istD and K20D.  Mind you, I carried the *ist for 4.5
> years and the K20 for 3 weeks so far :)
> 
>  -T
> 
I never actually owned an *istD, and maybe held one a dozen times.  My 
guess is that I took less than 100 shots with an *istD.  For what that's 
worth.

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Scott Loveless]

Adam Maas wrote:
> The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
> bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting
> mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
> camera as well.
> 
I think I'm odd-man-out here.  While the K10D was plenty comfy, I found 
the *istD much more pleasant to hold.  Most people who have used both 
give me a crooked stare when I admit this.

Granted, the stare could be for other reasons.

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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[David Savage]

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
>  bodies.

That's debatable.

> Slow write speeds

Very true.

Was always a serious PITA when shooting action & more often in my
case, panorama sequences.

> and the necessity to drop out of shooting
>  mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
>  camera as well.

I still do this so it isn't that big a difference to me.

Cheers,

Dave

>  On 3/29/08, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > Which Pentax DSLR's you consider as anomalous/awkward either by their
>  >  intent/design or features? Your input is appreciated.
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Re: Anomalous Pentax DSLR's

[Adam Maas]

The *istD. Overly small grip makes the handling inferior to the later
bodies. Slow write speeds and the necessity to drop out of shooting
mode to change ISO, WB or image quality settings comprimise it as a
camera as well.

-Adam

On 3/29/08, Roman Melihhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which Pentax DSLR's you consider as anomalous/awkward either by their
>  intent/design or features? Your input is appreciated.
>
>  Roman.
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Re: PESOs - Bowman's Beach

[Bob Sullivan]

Mat,
I especially like the last one, the sunset.
The clouded sun and the wave heading for the beach are just right.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rather than three separate messages, one message with three pictures.
> 3 for the price of 1. What a bargain!
>
> All three were taken on Bowman's Beach on Sanibel Island. We went here
> in the afternoon after we got tired of chasing birds in Ding Darling.
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2440.jpg.html
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2439.jpg.html
>
> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/florida/bowmans/IMGP2467.jpg.html
>
> Comments welcome. No mis-named birds here.
>
> -Mat
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Re: Henrys has K20d STOCK

[David J Brooks]

It could be Tim.

Some one here has sent in a camera and offending lenses, to get
calibrated. Maybe thats what i need to do, send in the DA 50 and FA
100 and have the 16-45 checked to.

The Tamron 28-70 was faulty, i;'m pretty sure. At F3.5-2.8 it was not
a matter of a bit of BF or FF, it was like the lens had been speard
with vasiline or something. Subject looked like it was shot in heavy
fog.

Oh well. I know a lot of complains are made to all three major
players, so hopefully some one is on it.

Dave

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 1:06 AM, Tim Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:32 PM, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  >  On a side note, it seems Nikon, Pentax etc knows there is a problem,
>  >  are we the test subjects, is there a problem, or are we/they just
>  >  ignoring it,
>
>  Maybe it's lens-related?  In Maui, I took a few hundred K20D shots,
>  almost exclusively with the 40mm pancake, a couple with the 21mm, and
>  I didn't get perfect focus all the time, but the weak link was me, not
>  the camera.  -T
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