URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website
Just a short notice for you to know that Pentax website is now www.pentax.jp (instead of pentax.co.jp) and has been slightly change (on a cosmetic POV). It might lead to a better website design in the future hopefully. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT request for browser help
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/08 Tue AM 11:05:13 GMT To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT request for browser help I have several emails this morning stating that they cannot access my hockey picture page on my site. I know Safari and Firefox can open them. Could a few of you guys that have different version of IE, try and open them and let me know. http://www.caughtinmotion.com Link for the page is near the bottom, under Stouffville Links. Thanks a bunch Hmmm. I'm at work, using IE6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 8-) The home page loads fine up to the separator bar under your about me link and then slows for about 3-4 minutes whilst the rest of the page loads. It then all appears at once. I can then click through to the links below the bar and they work fine. Go back to the home page and the slow load begins again. I think your truck guiding has contaminated the page. A couple of weeks bicycle couriering should fix it. The only obvious mistakes I can find is that two of the tables are not turned off and there is an extra table off command at the bottom of the page. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
From: Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] In general though, the response of the group has been eye opening for me as well, and I agree with most points that were made. And since I do enjoy the banter and spiraling turns that the list often takes due to the freedom of being unmoderated, I guess the bottom line is that we've gotta take the good with the bad (especially since we'd NEVER agree on what's good and what's bad Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- The loneliness of the long distance accordion [player]
I went to a dinner at a very nice, and rather expensive, German Restaurant. It used to actually import wait staff from Germany, but that's become too expensive recently so most of the current staff are from further East, but all speak, (AFAICT), fluent German. Except this guy, he's a local, but he knows every German Drinking song I was comfortable requesting. http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20thelonelinessofthelongdista.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
The istD and 360 flash
Looks like my K10D won't make it back in time for Erins awards day on Sunday, so its istD and 360. Is anyone, or has anyone used this combo. I'm sure it works fine. I'll run a few tests today, but any pro cons on this combo. Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 9:26 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm forced to agree. This is what comes from using lenses on a test bed instead of in the real world. I only ever resort to this kinda' testing if my real world shots show optical deficiencies. Cheers, Dave Thats were i noticed my problems. At a band shoot, the macro work. My tests just confirmed that Dave At 08:50 AM 9/04/2008, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Gads, I'm beginning to believe that I have the only non-defective DA*16-50 in captivity. Perhaps I shouldn't look too closely at it! ;-) G On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the DA* 16-50/2.8 is an aberration. All my other lenses check out quite nicely. Some adjustment dials them in more precisely, but they're all within acceptable range. Apparentlly there's some problem involved in the manufacture of the DA* 16-50 that sometimes results in a plane of focus that's not uniform. That's a different kind of problem than front focus or back focus. It can't be corrected with the controls or even with normal service procedures. That being said, I'm not sure that a lot of shortcuts aren't being taken in manufacturing these days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Re: One lens only...
From: Jos from Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Missing an opportunity is much worse for me than not having the best optical quality Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT request for browser help
Thanks Mike. I wrote this my self, as you may have guessed, and di a lot of cut and paste. I'll have a look at those table things Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 4:39 AM, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/08 Tue AM 11:05:13 GMT To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT request for browser help I have several emails this morning stating that they cannot access my hockey picture page on my site. I know Safari and Firefox can open them. Could a few of you guys that have different version of IE, try and open them and let me know. http://www.caughtinmotion.com Link for the page is near the bottom, under Stouffville Links. Thanks a bunch Hmmm. I'm at work, using IE6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519 8-) The home page loads fine up to the separator bar under your about me link and then slows for about 3-4 minutes whilst the rest of the page loads. It then all appears at once. I can then click through to the links below the bar and they work fine. Go back to the home page and the slow load begins again. I think your truck guiding has contaminated the page. A couple of weeks bicycle couriering should fix it. The only obvious mistakes I can find is that two of the tables are not turned off and there is an extra table off command at the bottom of the page. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
He better watch out then, now he's in trouble with Ann... David J Brooks wrote: He kicks cats to, so there, it is properly moderated. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
From: Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/09 Wed AM 09:22:05 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESOs?? Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! It's certainly a rare talent. Maybe not welcome, then. - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
He kicks cats to, so there, it is properly moderated. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website
I think that the materials legislation implemented in EU a couple of years ago hit Pentax very hard. Something to do with Bromine-based flame-retardants in the plastics used in their lenses. Jostein 2008/4/9 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Interestingly enough the last 7 35mm film cameras Pentax made are listed but noted to be discontinued. The medium format cameras are listed but not discontinued. (The lens situation in Japan seems to be a bit different than elsewhere in the world as well). Thibouille wrote: Just a short notice for you to know that Pentax website is now www.pentax.jp (instead of pentax.co.jp) and has been slightly change (on a cosmetic POV). It might lead to a better website design in the future hopefully. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: URL change and cosmetic change to Pentax japan website
Interestingly enough the last 7 35mm film cameras Pentax made are listed but noted to be discontinued. The medium format cameras are listed but not discontinued. (The lens situation in Japan seems to be a bit different than elsewhere in the world as well). Thibouille wrote: Just a short notice for you to know that Pentax website is now www.pentax.jp (instead of pentax.co.jp) and has been slightly change (on a cosmetic POV). It might lead to a better website design in the future hopefully. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Accepted and Declined
Brian My favourite reject is the church http://supera.myjalbum.net/Pentax_Photo_Gallery_Submissions/Declined_Images/slides/IMGP2987pg.html Not too fussy for me anyway and fantastic lighting Thanks Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Mallard Escape
On this shot I was doing everything wrong. I had the camera and lens set up for a close focus shot of an early wild flower bloom, (maximum DOF with the slowest shutter speed I though I could reasonably hand hold). I was just beginning to compose the shot when there was a horrendous squawking and excited quacking from down stream. I immediately brought the camera around to see a male Mallard being chased by another, in a territorial dispute. I got off three quick shots while panning on the lead duck as he finally made his escape by becoming airborne. All at 1/40 sec, and ~200mm. None in particularly good focus. Well on further reflection I decided that this one seems to work well as kind of an abstract. I cropped it a bit to improve the composition. So here it is: http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20mallardescape.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only... (Lens police)
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/09 Wed AM 12:47:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: One lens only... Steve Desjardins wrote: Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two or at least a zoom to cover the range. :) I really like the term lens police! Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... The Lens Police. For the LBA you didn't know you have. The Lens Police. What's in the bag, sir? The Lens Police Is there anything sharp in there? Seems a bit heavy for just one lens The Lens Police The Lens Police's holding cell (Picture of WW's collection) The Lens Police. For when want turns to need. Plus multiple variations on how many do you need? - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:47:25 -0400, Mark Roberts wrote Steve Desjardins wrote: Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two or at least a zoom to cover the range. :) I really like the term lens police! Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... The Lens Police Is this your lens sir? John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
I like interiors so I've tried walking around with a 8mm Peleng. It's unlikely that I'll ever be allowed ro stand where I like in the Blue Mosque in Istanbul again. ( I was with a party of police officers ) More practically the 12-24mm Sigma is good in churches too. The essential accessory is like a small cushion with a tripod screw sticking out. Cheaper than a Nikon D3 and also works well in the gloom Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
I was considering buying a K20D because the low noise 14.6 MP sensor is particularly attractive. However, the review in this week's Amateur Photographer was a little disappointing, particularly when referring to purple fringing. The review pointed out that a recent optical test of the 16-50mm f/2.8 DA lens showed no problem of chromatic aberration, so the reviewer concluded that the colour fringing must have come from the sensor. Any comments? Why should I buy a DSLR with a colour fringing problem? ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
yet another Lightroom question
Also I'm trying out now Lightroom as possible replacement of Elements on my new PC. In Elements I used to store my converted (exported) JPG's along with the DNG files in the same folder. I am used to identify folders based on subject and subfolders by date taken. Elements does import from card folders by date and also saves the converted JPG by default in the same folder unless you select to save for web w/o EXIF. In LR I see so far no easy way to do thisin the same folder and upon saving the JPG it is hard to find back the folder in which the DNG file is located. Another point is that in Elements the JPG file size can be set before saving, or the file size is indicated for the selected percentage of original, which I haven't figure out how to do in LR. Although LR has more handles in adjusting RAW's, I find Elements conversion menu easier to access than LR develop menu, as there is no need for scrolling on my 1024 by 768 screen. But no doubt I'm still on the bottom of the learning curve here. Henk -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/08 Tue PM 07:55:40 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: One lens only... Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:25:24 +0200 schreef Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 8/4/08, Lucas Rijnders, discombobulated, unleashed: My wife puts me on a strict two-lens budget for holidays Mark! Ehm, I would prefer not to have this in the quotes list, if you don't mind... In that case... Mark! - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
I have to put on my glasses and look at it:-). On Apr 8, 2008, at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in perfect focus. Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
I wouldn't have tried to guess from this shot, since it was continuous autofocus. But it could be backfocused. Once side of the frame was backfocusing a considerable amount, but not enough to extend from her head to the grass:-). Paul On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:37 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Looks like major back focus.(?) Nice sharp grass well behind a soft (but cute) Grace. Jack --- Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ __ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
That's true. And the autofocus test on the K20D is going to make Pentax live up to a higher standard. I'm wondering if we won't see it gone with the next firmware update? I hope not. Of course I haven't heard of any significant problems with the DA* 50-135, and my copy of that lens appears to be perfect. Paul On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:59 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem You got me:-). Nah, you test AF systems. You discovered you had a buggered lens by accident. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
Thanks to all who commented. But this is a bad example of what I was trying to demonstrate. Looking at it in the morning with glasses on I have to say you're all correct. The grass is in focus. That's a matter of photographer failure or continuous autofocus failure rather than the lens being out of whack. It's not out by three feet! :-)). Probably didn't catch another autofocus update before pulling the trigger. I processed this late at night and was smitten by the image. But I can't really detect soft without glasses -- or a diopter adjustment. So there you have it. But I do like Grace's form, and I am planning an NFL career for her. On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Drivetrain
These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
If you ask for a replacement, they pay shipping for the new lens. However, I generally ask for a refund and order a new one immediately. That means I have a new lens about a week sooner, but I pay about twelve dollars more. My local store stocks only DA lenses, no DA*. They assume all their serious photographers are Canon or Nikon shooters. And for the most part, they're right. But up until only a few years ago, they weren't even stocking Pentax equipment. Now they're selling some, so they may come around. But I've watched the sales people in action, and they generally try to talk newbies out of a Pentax choice. They carry it only because some people are now demanding it, based on magazine and internet reviews. And perhaps personal recommendations as well. But I can tell that it irks the salespeople to have to hand over a Pentax camera. So they can't meet my needs. And I wouldn't want to have to try to deal with them on a return of Pentax equipment. Paul On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:47 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem Yes, in many areas, the customer is put in charge of QC. If it isn't noticed, the manufacturers saves on their QC budgets. It does, however, place the supplier in the position of buffer, therein making it important to deal with a reputable supplier such as BH. I've decided that dealing with a store that is local to me is the best way. Nothing wrong with BH, but I kinda like being able to deal with a real person rather than a voice on the telephone. Out of curiosity, when you buy a junk product from a place like BH, do they pay the return shipping on the defective product, and then pay the reship out of their pocket or do they jack that onto the customer? Any savings you realize by buying from them would be eaten up awfully quickly if you have to pay three times for shipping to get one product that works. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
Yep! Based on that shot, it would appear your lens is just fine. The left side would have been noticeably soft if shot with my lens. I'm hoping that the vast majority of them are just that. I'll have another on Thursday. Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I shoot so much almost flat subject matter a lens defect like this should be apparent pretty quickly. Like this one: http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/46b.htm All I can see from the un-processed exposure is that I was a little off from dead-on to the subject. Focus seems just fine. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
The only type the uneven focus field problem might show up is if your shooting something where the subject is approximately equidistant from one end of the frame to the next. That's why this could go unnoticed for quite a while. I have a number of good shots that I produced with this lens before I noticed the problem. (Not including the one that I posted:-). Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:36 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: ;-) I haven't used this example of the 16-50 to really say one way or another whether it might be subtley defective ... I simply prefer to use prime lenses most of the time anyway, in this focal length range. It's one of the lenses I have for 'evaluation', so I suppose I really should examine it a bit more critically. The shooting I've done with it, however, has all looked pretty good. I just went through 300 some exposures made with it at a wide variety of focal length, distance and scene types: I see no signs of any focusing or sharpness issues, other than those caused by my own sloppiness in using it. Godfrey On Apr 8, 2008, at 6:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: I would look closely. I never test lenses. But I have taken advantage of the focal point adjustment on the K20D. It's worthwhile. And when this lens showed aberrant behavior, I tested it further. I could have settled for what was essentially a defective lens. And if the chips fell right I may never have noticed it in real world shooting. You can always blame it on camera shake or simply missing the mark on the focal point. But there are times when it's best to know that one's equipment works correctly. Or one can choose blissful ignorance. Paul On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:26 PM, David Savage wrote: I'm forced to agree. This is what comes from using lenses on a test bed instead of in the real world. I only ever resort to this kinda' testing if my real world shots show optical deficiencies. Cheers, Dave At 08:50 AM 9/04/2008, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Gads, I'm beginning to believe that I have the only non-defective DA*16-50 in captivity. Perhaps I shouldn't look too closely at it! ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
Well, you can test for a flat field in minutes. Just shoot the old brick wall at f2.8. But make sure you're squared off to the wall, since DOF at that stop is fairly minimal. Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:22 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm feeling the same way. Not having done any formal tests with it...of course I got the first one on the block so no one was worried at that point. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, April 8, 2008, 5:50:36 PM, you wrote: GD Gads, I'm beginning to believe that I have the only non-defective GD DA*16-50 in captivity. Perhaps I shouldn't look too closely at it! ;-) GD G GD On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the DA* 16-50/2.8 is an aberration. All my other lenses check out quite nicely. Some adjustment dials them in more precisely, but they're all within acceptable range. Apparentlly there's some problem involved in the manufacture of the DA* 16-50 that sometimes results in a plane of focus that's not uniform. That's a different kind of problem than front focus or back focus. It can't be corrected with the controls or even with normal service procedures. That being said, I'm not sure that a lot of shortcuts aren't being taken in manufacturing these days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
I love machinery, and the more signs of use, the better. Good work, nice rendering. Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 8:30 AM, frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/ 0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/ 8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
I have yet to see any purple fringing after 2500 K20D shots. But I don't shoot black branches against glowing white skies either. In fact, I've experienced more fringing with all of my other DSLRs. The *istD was the worst of them. Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:54 AM, Colin J wrote: I was considering buying a K20D because the low noise 14.6 MP sensor is particularly attractive. However, the review in this week's Amateur Photographer was a little disappointing, particularly when referring to purple fringing. The review pointed out that a recent optical test of the 16-50mm f/ 2.8 DA lens showed no problem of chromatic aberration, so the reviewer concluded that the colour fringing must have come from the sensor. Any comments? Why should I buy a DSLR with a colour fringing problem? ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
I returned a defective 540 flash (stuck on 16mm) and an under warranty K10D (SD slot would not 'hold onto the card). In each case, at their instruction, I downloaded paid shipping labels and ultimately received the replaced flash and repaired K10D at no cost. Jack --- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Davis Subject: Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem Yes, in many areas, the customer is put in charge of QC. If it isn't noticed, the manufacturers saves on their QC budgets. It does, however, place the supplier in the position of buffer, therein making it important to deal with a reputable supplier such as BH. I've decided that dealing with a store that is local to me is the best way. Nothing wrong with BH, but I kinda like being able to deal with a real person rather than a voice on the telephone. Out of curiosity, when you buy a junk product from a place like BH, do they pay the return shipping on the defective product, and then pay the reship out of their pocket or do they jack that onto the customer? Any savings you realize by buying from them would be eaten up awfully quickly if you have to pay three times for shipping to get one product that works. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Mies' Masterpiece
I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tlMqIJ-YI/Byo/LMgz1LThvaI/s1600-h/apr_08_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 8, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Bob W wrote: The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude. Bob W wrote: It's not actually my opinion, it's just a cynical attempt to get on the quotes list before the snow melts. Mission accomplished. Yes, but which quote makes the list? The use of zooms reeks of moral turpitude or It's not actually my opinion, it's just a cynical attempt to get on the quotes list before the snow melts? I say both! (not that I have a say, but if I did, that would be it) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
- Original Message - From: Colin J Subject: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer I was considering buying a K20D because the low noise 14.6 MP sensor is particularly attractive. However, the review in this week's Amateur Photographer was a little disappointing, particularly when referring to purple fringing. The review pointed out that a recent optical test of the 16-50mm f/2.8 DA lens showed no problem of chromatic aberration, so the reviewer concluded that the colour fringing must have come from the sensor. Any comments? Why should I buy a DSLR with a colour fringing problem? They are having QC problems with the lens you mentioned. It's pretty widely reported, I don't expect we'll be seeing any QC problems with it in a few months as new stock ships. Try to find a DSLR anwhere that doesn't dislpay some PF under certain conditions. They all do it, and it's easy to produce. Just take a picture of a subject so heavily backlit as to be unphotographable. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
- Original Message - From: John Whittingham Subject: Re: One lens only... Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... The Lens Police Is this your lens sir? The Lens Police dismisseth us. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
The genie is out of the bottle, as they say. Even if they take the adjustment away, folks will still be testing lenses and sending them back. The real question is if there are enough testers who will return lenses to offset the huddled masses who won't think to do it. If the economics works, they won't change anything. Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/9/2008 8:26 AM That's true. And the autofocus test on the K20D is going to make Pentax live up to a higher standard. I'm wondering if we won't see it gone with the next firmware update? I hope not. Of course I haven't heard of any significant problems with the DA* 50-135, and my copy of that lens appears to be perfect. Paul On Apr 8, 2008, at 10:59 PM, William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist Subject: Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem You got me:-). Nah, you test AF systems. You discovered you had a buggered lens by accident. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47fcb749299192121114619! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem
- Original Message - From: Steve Desjardins Subject: Re: DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem The genie is out of the bottle, as they say. Even if they take the adjustment away, folks will still be testing lenses and sending them back. The real question is if there are enough testers who will return lenses to offset the huddled masses who won't think to do it. If the economics works, they won't change anything. They can take the adjustment away with a firmware change, but then that new firmware would need to add features that will entice people to update to it, and a pretty valid reason for deleting a feature that allows the user to repair a known issue that affects every camera maker, not just Pentax. As an example, I'd like to see a revision that allows turning off NR completely, but it wouldn't be enough to make me update if I lost the ability to fine tune the AF. They would also get lenses returned en masse from people who wanted their lenses to AF correctly, swamping their service departments with frivolous warranty issues. I'd even bet thet the Yanks would start a class action. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- The loneliness of the long distance accordion [player]
I suddenly have this strange urge for schnitzel. Funny shot. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/9/2008 6:30 AM I went to a dinner at a very nice, and rather expensive, German Restaurant. It used to actually import wait staff from Germany, but that's become too expensive recently so most of the current staff are from further East, but all speak, (AFAICT), fluent German. Except this guy, he's a local, but he knows every German Drinking song I was comfortable requesting. http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20thelonelinessofthelongdista.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47fc8fdd299191884057309! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
Since that's the opposite results others have reported I begin to doubt the veracity of any review. Look this is a situation , high contrast, that I would have expected to cause sensor bloom, and lots of it. http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20treeline.html Made with the *ist-Ds and F 70-210mm. I examined it closely and found almost none. I think that reviewers are shooting images intended to produce it intentionally and don't stop until it appears. They can then say Ah-ha there it is. Colin J wrote: I was considering buying a K20D because the low noise 14.6 MP sensor is particularly attractive. However, the review in this week's Amateur Photographer was a little disappointing, particularly when referring to purple fringing. The review pointed out that a recent optical test of the 16-50mm f/2.8 DA lens showed no problem of chromatic aberration, so the reviewer concluded that the colour fringing must have come from the sensor. Any comments? Why should I buy a DSLR with a colour fringing problem? ___ Yahoo! For Good helps you make a difference http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/ -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
Jerome wrote: Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... I've installed a Random Post Kick Number Generator, to keep you bozos who actually count the intervals guessing. and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). plug-ins --- membership --- thrown dart --- return result --- check against recent dart throw results --- if match recent result, GOTO thrown dart --- repeat --- if no match --- interrupt delivery --- Activate Y/N --- Always Y? --- end --- email List Guy result I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Just that one time. Kicking by proxy now. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote: In LR I see so far no easy way to do thisin the same folder and upon saving the JPG it is hard to find back the folder in which the DNG file is located. I'm just starting to get the hang of Lightroom myself, but I think one thing you need to get used to is the idea that Lightroom doesn't save your JPEG results anywhere in particular. When you make an edit/ develop a RAW file, all you are really doing is entering the EDITS into a database. The RAW file sits there, untouched. When you decide to share this JPEG file with someone out there - either by copying the JPEG out, or creating a slide show, or by setting something up on the Web - that's when the file is exported and all of the changes you want to have happen to the file are applied. You don't really need to save the JPEG anywhere unless you're going to share it with someone. Otherwise, the Lightroom database has a list of the changes required to convert the original file to one that looks like what you want it to look like. Also - if you want to know where a file is located, there is a panel on the right-hand side with all of the metadata - one of them is the folder name where the original file is located - if you click on that, it shows you where that folder is in the Folders tree on the left- hand side. Right-clicking (or Ctrl-clicking on the Mac) that folder lets you choose, among other options, to show in Finder (and, I'll wager, Show in Explorer on Windows) where the file lives in your directories/folders. But no doubt I'm still on the bottom of the learning curve here. I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly. I've been playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely scratched the surface. There are a number of tutorials out there which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand. I am starting to really like it. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
Colin J wrote: I was considering buying a K20D because the low noise 14.6 MP sensor is particularly attractive. However, the review in this week's Amateur Photographer was a little disappointing, particularly when referring to purple fringing. There's your problem. The K20D is targeted at enthusiasts and budding professionals. Not amateur photographers. Gees. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESOs??
P. J. Alling wrote: He better watch out then, now he's in trouble with Ann... as I was about to write :) guess who David J Brooks wrote: He kicks cats to, so there, it is properly moderated. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10-day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
Hum, Bike Porn. Hey, wait a minute you didn't spend some vacation time in England last June... frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece
Nicely composed and nice conversion, (I assume). I'll just make my usual comment about opening up the mid tones just a bit. frank theriault wrote: I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tlMqIJ-YI/Byo/LMgz1LThvaI/s1600-h/apr_08_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg Oh my goodness, they're METAL! How fashionably old school! g -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer
2008/4/9 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Not amateur photographers. Gees. Canadians? No, wait... that's geese. hmm... Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg They are beautiful. And it's a nice photo, too. Good bw conversion. I'll have to agree with Paul about machinery. BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg It really does look so much better without that top tube pad. ;) Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
On 9/4/08, John Whittingham, discombobulated, unleashed: The Lens Police Is this your lens sir? Put your exposures where I can see them. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
On 9/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The Lens Police dismisseth us. This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
geez I stay off the list for a while and come back and see sharp images from Frank -- what is the list coming to??? No one will remember what Theraultian blur is if you keep this up ann p.s. (nice pic - the closeup is intriguing -- artsy - the otehr is just an information photo of a bike (now IM in trouble) frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO -- Mallard Escape
I like it ann P. J. Alling wrote: On this shot I was doing everything wrong. I had the camera and lens set up for a close focus shot of an early wild flower bloom, (maximum DOF with the slowest shutter speed I though I could reasonably hand hold). I was just beginning to compose the shot when there was a horrendous squawking and excited quacking from down stream. I immediately brought the camera around to see a male Mallard being chased by another, in a territorial dispute. I got off three quick shots while panning on the lead duck as he finally made his escape by becoming airborne. All at 1/40 sec, and ~200mm. None in particularly good focus. Well on further reflection I decided that this one seems to work well as kind of an abstract. I cropped it a bit to improve the composition. So here it is: http://www.mindspring.com/~distilfink/PESO%20--%20mallardescape.html Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax F 70-210mm f4.0~5.6 As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All right pull over, this is the lens police... All right buddy. Stop down and pull over. Dave Ken Waller wrote: I really like the term lens police! Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... I once asked my wife to hand me the lens police. (please - for those who don't get it.) Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: One lens only... Steve Desjardins wrote: Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two or at least a zoom to cover the range. :) I really like the term lens police! Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
So its not just me then. I thought so to. Dave On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in perfect focus. Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
I wonder what the former soloist of lens the police would have to say? ;) On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The Lens Police dismisseth us. This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
Ooh, Good one. But you missed the triple entender. This is the Lens Police, you're under developed... Cotty wrote: On 9/4/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: The Lens Police dismisseth us. This is the Lens Police, you're under-exposed. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
Good shot. Good detail and its sharp.:-0 Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:30 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Can't post to the list.
Hello, This email is another try to send a post to the list. Do you received me and can someone help me? Gaetan Beauchamp Le 08-04-09 à 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Send PDML mailing list submissions to pdml@pdml.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of PDML digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: PESO - Drivetrain (P. J. Alling) 2. Re: PESOs?? (ann sanfedele) 3. Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece (P. J. Alling) 4. Re: PESO - Drivetrain (Mark Roberts) 5. Re: PESO - Drivetrain (Scott Loveless) 6. Re: K20D Review in Amateur Photographer (AlunFoto) 7. Re: One lens only... (Cotty) 8. Re: One lens only... (Cotty) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:06:57 -0500 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Drivetrain To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hum, Bike Porn. Hey, wait a minute you didn't spend some vacation time in England last June... frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:12:45 -0400 From: ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESOs?? To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed P. J. Alling wrote: He better watch out then, now he's in trouble with Ann... as I was about to write :) guess who David J Brooks wrote: He kicks cats to, so there, it is properly moderated. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, Jerome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not true. The list is moderated. It is done so carefully that it just _looks_ like it is unmoderated. A rare and welcome talent. That's what you think. Truth be told, Doug deletes every 48th email just for kicks (hence the were are my post? whines... and he uses a thrown dart system to decide who he'll remove from the list every Thursday (test... test... what's wrong with my email?). I've also heard that he will make a special trip just to kick your dog (or your small children if you have no dogs) if you post off topic too many times in a 10- day span. Evil, evil man. And you call that moderation?! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:12:02 -0500 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Nicely composed and nice conversion, (I assume). I'll just make my usual comment about opening up the mid tones just a bit. frank theriault wrote: I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
It may be you, but you're not unique. David J Brooks wrote: So its not just me then. I thought so to. Dave On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in perfect focus. Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax Photo Browser/Photo Lab on Win2K
So all Pentax's literature tells us that Photo Browser will run on Win2K and Photo Lab isn't available I'm not sure what they mean exactly since Photo Lab 3.5 seems to be running fine on my Win2k Server system with SP4 installed. I'm almost afraid to tempt fate by installing the Remote Assistant (ver. 3.01). The documentation says the it isn't available either and I'm a little afraid that I'll trash whatever it is in my current configuration that allows software that isn't available to run. Luckily, I don't need it just yet as I haven't yet ordered a K20D. I really have to clone the boot drive on this machine again. The last clone is well, very old, but I've misplaced the software somewhere. I'd like to thank everyone who tried to help when I posted the original question, even Adam. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
In the real world (was DA* 16-58/2.8 and the flat focus problem)
I have examples of my DA* lens giving me sub-par real-world results. Here's the real world image: http://www.westerickson.net/misc/ValleyOak.jpg Here are 100% crops of the left, center, and right portions of the image. Note that some of the grassland on the both the left and right sides is in the plane of focus. http://www.westerickson.net/misc/LeftCenterRight.jpg The blurring on the right side is noticeable in an 8x10 print that I made with my Epson R800 printer. The problems are obvious in this test image: http://www.westerickson.net/misc/ProblemDAStar1650.jpg Note that I used exactly the same setup (camera in same position) with my FA 50mm F1.7 as a control, so I know that the wall and camera are aligned. My local authorized Pentax service center evaluated the lens, noted the defect, and sent it back to Colorado per their instructions --Mark Paul wrote: I decided to continue my upgrade of the medium zooms with the addition of the DA* 16-50/2.8. It's an ideal lens for event photography, which I've been doing more often. My lens arrived Monday. I tried to adjust the focal point yesterday using the Nikon chart. I had a lot of problems getting a compromise reading at the various focal lengths. More disturbing was the fact that the left side of the chart and the right side of the chart weren't focusing on the same plane. I conferred off list with Joe Tainter, who is well informed on these problems and decided to test further. Today I tested the lens by shooting a flat wooden deck off the tripod. The level of the deck and the camera were checked and matched with a bubble gauge. The lens is definitely our of whack by a considerable amount. It's easily noticeable in this sort of test at 2.8 and all focal lengths and still somewhat noticeable at 50mm, f5.6. It's on its way back to BH and a replacement is on its way to me. In normal shooting early yesterday the problem wasn't noticeable. (I have a nice pic of Grace playing hopscotch:-). Anyone who has purchased this lens should test their sample under controlled conditions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:11 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All right pull over, this is the lens police... All right buddy. Stop down and pull over. Do you know how fast that lens is? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Can't post to the list.
On 9/4/08, Gaëtan Beauchamp, discombobulated, unleashed: Hello, This email is another try to send a post to the list. Do you received me and can someone help me? Gaetan Beauchamp Bonjour Gaetan, You have managed to post to the list fine. Just beware that as you are subscribed in digest form, you need to do a couple of things - one is change the subject line (which you have done, excellent), the other is to try not to have the whole digest copied below your post to the list. I would edit it down to just the relevant part, if any. We are receiving you loud and clear - go ahead :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:42:57 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote: I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly. I've been playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely scratched the surface. There are a number of tutorials out there which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand. I'm in the same boat: would you have any links to recommended reading? And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... I am starting to really like it. Definately. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright all that jazz) -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Can't post to the list.
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/4/08, Gaëtan Beauchamp, discombobulated, unleashed: Hello, This email is another try to send a post to the list. Do you received me and can someone help me? Gaetan Beauchamp Bonjour Gaetan, You have managed to post to the list fine. Just beware that as you are subscribed in digest form, you need to do a couple of things - one is change the subject line (which you have done, excellent), the other is to try not to have the whole digest copied below your post to the list. I would edit it down to just the relevant part, if any. Doug must be out kicking dogs. He missed this one. Dave We are receiving you loud and clear - go ahead :-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg Oh my goodness, they're METAL! How fashionably old school! g Old School? Chris Hoy found old school just fine when he won the 2008 UCI matched sprint worlds in Manchester last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUn2bLOvxHM I don't know that they make track cranks out of CF. Maybe they do, I just haven't heard of it. I do know that Hoy is so freaking strong that he has snapped several chains. Those are track chains which are much thicker than road chains (you might be able to see from my photo), and he has snapped them on the standing-start kilo (he's world champ). Is there a more exciting racing sport than the matched sprint? I don't think so! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece
Are we after all, sure that this is Frank. Ann did point out that his stuff is disturbingly unblurred David J Brooks wrote: Nicely done Frank. The alignment is very pleasing. You sure it was not Art Van dalay who designed that. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tlMqIJ-YI/Byo/LMgz1LThvaI/s1600-h/apr_08_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
I've never used it but this says you can use it to edit EXIF information. http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Graphic/Digital-Photo-Tools/EXIFeditor.shtml I'm not sure but the lens name may be stored as a code of some type which would be used in conjunction with a Lookup table to display human readable information,. I know that none of the RAW converters I use, except for the Pentax Photo Browser/Photo Lab combination seem to be able to tell me the lens name. If there's no code you won't be able to update that field to display anything meaningful. Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright all that jazz) -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece
Nicely done Frank. The alignment is very pleasing. You sure it was not Art Van dalay who designed that. Dave On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 8:56 AM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tlMqIJ-YI/Byo/LMgz1LThvaI/s1600-h/apr_08_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:36:27 +0200 schreef Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... No, but you can add IPTC tags with the info in question. EXIF is for camera-added data, IPTC is for the rest (including copyright all that jazz) Ah, o.k. There appear to be some tools around to edit EXIF, but they didn't work on the 'maker notes'. Thanks for the clarification. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only...
Op Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:05:59 +0200 schreef Jos from Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: One lens only? I would take the widest I have: the 18-55 kitlens, I can always crop later but never expend! Missing an opportunity is much worse for me than not having the best optical quality Greetz, Jos On the other hand, I continually miss so many opportunities, that I'd like the ones that I do get to be as good as possible... ;-) -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It may be you, but you're not unique. There goes my day.:-) I had that on my business cards, now i have to remove it. Dave David J Brooks wrote: So its not just me then. I thought so to. Dave On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in perfect focus. Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:36, Lucas Rijnders wrote: Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:42:57 +0200 schreef Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Apr 9, 2008, at 7:05, Henk Terhell wrote: I agree that there is tons to learn to use it properly. I've been playing around with it for the past week and I've just barely scratched the surface. There are a number of tutorials out there which are worth watching/reading to get the basics in hand. I'm in the same boat: would you have any links to recommended reading? I don't know if it's recommended because I haven't evaluated all of their stuff yet, but this is a good start: http://www.photoshopsupport.com/lightroom/tutorials.html I believe that Adobe has video tutorials on their website as well. I also downloaded an EBook with some good get yourself oriented information. There is a PDF from Adobe called: Lightroom - Getting Started which isn't too bad. And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... That would be nice. I don't think that information is editable - although I could be wrong! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
It could still be just you:-) Paul On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:27 PM, David J Brooks wrote: So its not just me then. I thought so to. Dave On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:56 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to say I agree with the other comments, the grass seems to be in perfect focus. Paul Stenquist wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. Second: Shot this with the obviously defective DA* 16-50/2.8 . Looks okay, doesn't it? And most shots will. Real world shooting doesn't always reveal defects. But someday when shooting a nearly flat scene wide open, one side of the shot will be a bit soft. The lens costs far too much to tolerate that kind of performance. Sometimes it's good to test. But only rarely:-). Paul -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pulitzer
Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately it's becoming more and more present in our lives or in the surroundings. So much pain, and yet so much courage. Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Derby Chang Enviada: terça-feira, 8 de Abril de 2008 11:06 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Assunto: Pulitzer I am speechless http://www.prestongannaway.com/main.php (the Pulitzer winning entry is under Stories and Essays - Remember Me) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.9/1364 - Release Date: 07-04-2008 18:38 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.10/1367 - Release Date: 09-04-2008 7:10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... What I've seen in tools like PhotoME is that the lens type maker note is just a number, and the software then has to look up that number in its own list of lenses. It's *not* stored in the EXIF as a text string like PENTAX FA 50mm f/1.4. Sometimes when I've gotten a new (modern) lens, I've had to let software authors know that a certain number corresponds to a certain lens. My guess is that there's no way to modify the EXIF to indicate an old A lens, because those lenses were never assigned an ID number. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more exciting racing sport than the matched sprint? I don't think so! cheers, frank Rally. Take a overpowered, AWD small car, drive it down a dirt road on the side of a mountain at well over 100km/h with a guy sitting next to you telling you when how to turn. It's insane, in an entertaining way. Matched Sprint is fun though. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
I like the closeup shot alot Knarf - something about the basic nature of it the B+W presentation. I'd like to see a little more space between the chain the RH edge of the image. I think we need to add a theme month for the PUG called bikes I have known. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Drivetrain These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg BTW, here's the bike they're on (I showed a piccie last week, but I've since cleaned it up, and it looks oh so nice with no dirt on it!): http://tinyurl.com/3ofqfd http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tk5KIJ-RI/Bxw/8rxb1sD7fyM/s1600-h/apr_08_08+002.jpg Comments welcome. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: One lens only... (Lens police)
The lens police always PRIMEd and on the lookout to EXPOSE FAST lenses ZOOMING by Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: One lens only... (Lens police) From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/04/09 Wed AM 12:47:25 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: One lens only... Steve Desjardins wrote: Makes you wonder if the Lens Police are going to enforce the one lens only rule here. I don't know how many times we have had a similar question - I can't answer it because I can't come up with a situation where the lens police won't let me have another lens or two or at least a zoom to cover the range. :) I really like the term lens police! Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... The Lens Police. For the LBA you didn't know you have. The Lens Police. What's in the bag, sir? The Lens Police Is there anything sharp in there? Seems a bit heavy for just one lens The Lens Police The Lens Police's holding cell (Picture of WW's collection) The Lens Police. For when want turns to need. Plus multiple variations on how many do you need? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
On Apr 9, 2008, at 13:48, Adam Maas wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:50 PM, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a more exciting racing sport than the matched sprint? I don't think so! cheers, frank Rally. Take a overpowered, AWD small car, drive it down a dirt road on the side of a mountain at well over 100km/h with a guy sitting next to you telling you when how to turn. It's insane, in an entertaining way. ..and up until a couple of years ago it was on TV in the U.S. - but then the channel that aired it was bought by FOX and they needed to bump good raching (motorcycle racing, Rally, etc) to make room for more NASCAR coverage. Gawd. Thank goodness for Bittorrent, though! I can catch up with the weekend races within a couple of days - and commercial free! :-) Matched Sprint is fun though. Agreed - insanity in a different mode. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece
Knarf - I like the subject matter composition but would like a better B+W rendering (more contrasty ?) Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Mies' Masterpiece I don't often post architectural photos. Perhaps that's because I tend to concentrate on other stuff, or perhaps it's because I mostly suck at it, but today I'm breaking with tradition. This is my favourite group of buildings in Toronto, The Toronto-Dominion Centre, designed by noted modernist Ludwig Mies van der Rohe (his name was just Ludwig Mies; he added the van der Rohe to make it sound better). His buildings dot (among other places) New York (the Seagram Building)) and Chicago (IBM Tower and many others): he virtually defined the International Style of architecture. When I was a courier on stand by (between calls) I'd lie on my back on a sunny day and watch the changing shadows and reflections on these beautiful buildings. When I was by there the other day, the sun, reflections and shadows looked particularly alluring: http://tinyurl.com/3v2tkb http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_tlMqIJ-YI/Byo/LMgz1LThvaI/s1600-h/apr_08_08+006.jpg Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: yet another Lightroom question
Charles answered Henk's original question on point. Summarizing, Lightroom does not create a JPEG, TIFF or PSD rendering of a RAW file with your edits until you tell it to explicitly with the Export function or implicitly with the edit in photoshop... or edit in another editor commands. (When you use these two commands, it creates a rendering in TIFF or PSD format alongside the original RAW file on disk, and this rendering is automatically entered into the catalog as well). In normal operation when you're using Lightroom to manipulate cropping, tonality, etc, it records your editing instructions in its catalog (and optionally in metadata either as an XMP sidecar file or into a DNG file directly) and renders the file as you have edited it on the fly for viewing and display. You can immediately get to any file that you see in the Library module using the Show In Finder [Windows Explorer] commands ... but in essence, you really shouldn't have to do that very often at all. It will create a JPEG/DNG/TIFF/PSD rendered file on demand via the Export function and place it anywhere you want to store it. My workflow places files that I import into a directory tree rooted as work-in-progress, files that I export are organized into a directory tree rooted as completed-images. Subdirectories tagged with project number, date and event, etc, are in both of these trees. The flow of work goes from card to work in progress to completed images after I'm done with them, if I need to export them. My working catalog contains only work in progress directory tree, I maintain a second catalog which imports only the completed images directory tree. I've found this to be an efficient organizational model for how to coordinate and store files and keep what I'm working on separate from what I've completed in the file system. From: Lucas Rijnders [EMAIL PROTECTED] And, while more or less on the subject, is there a way to edit 'maker notes', especially lens name in the exif? If a shot is by an 'A series lens' with SR set to 50, I know which one it is. I'd like to store that info in the exif... ... There appear to be some tools around to edit EXIF, but they didn't work on the 'maker notes'. From: Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] What I've seen in tools like PhotoME is that the lens type maker note is just a number, and the software then has to look up that number in its own list of lenses. It's *not* stored in the EXIF as a text string like PENTAX FA 50mm f/1.4. Sometimes when I've gotten a new (modern) lens, I've had to let software authors know that a certain number corresponds to a certain lens. My guess is that there's no way to modify the EXIF to indicate an old A lens, because those lenses were never assigned an ID number. Yes. If you want to look at EXIF metadata, the tool you want to analyze and manipulate EXIF information is EXIFtool by Phil Harvey: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/ This is a command line tool with extensive ability to read and edit EXIF data in a huge range of file types, including RAW file types. Be aware that manipulating the lens codes and other private maker data can be a little tricky and often doesn't give you want you want. I normally use the tool to read the data for analysis, not to edit it. As Matthew said, you can't put in lens data for lenses that never had it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is available. Learning and reference resources for Lightroom continue to grow, any list posted is quickly outdated with new ones. I strongly recommend people work with the video tutorials available at Adobe and Luminous- Landscape.com, and a few others. Adobe's tutorial videos are at http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/video_workshop/ Very well done stuff. There're also the news and blogs sites, which each have a bazillion other links to spin off from: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/ http://lightroom-news.com/ The books by Martin Evening, Scott Kelby and others have all been good, do a search on Amazon.com for current titles. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Drivetrain
frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: These cranks/spiders are about 4 or 5 years old, so they're showing their age (that's not dirt on the arm, it's where the shiny stuff has worn off). They're still beautiful in my eyes... http://tinyurl.com/4xk56t http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/R_oPzaIJ-JI/Bww/0Pj5rQD3FPw/s1600-h/apr_07_08+002.jpg Oh my goodness, they're METAL! How fashionably old school! g Old School? Chris Hoy found old school just fine when he won the 2008 UCI matched sprint worlds in Manchester last month: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUn2bLOvxHM I don't know that they make track cranks out of CF. Maybe they do, I just haven't heard of it. I do know that Hoy is so freaking strong that he has snapped several chains. Those are track chains which are much thicker than road chains (you might be able to see from my photo), and he has snapped them on the standing-start kilo (he's world champ). Is there a more exciting racing sport than the matched sprint? I don't think so! I'm kinda partial to miss and out. But matched sprint is very exciting. -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
Op Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:57:57 +0200 schreef Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is available. I obviously use another class of lenses than you do: My SMC Pentax-FA 1:4,7-5,6 80-200 reports as SMC Pentax-F 1:4,7-5,6 80-200. I'll try to make adobe aware of this small glitch. Thanks everyone for the usefull information. -- Ciao, Lucas -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pulitzer
I'm not sure what you mean by more and more present, but really the reason this is such a tragedy is that is so unusual for a relatively young healthy woman to die prematurely. From the 1840's, when good record keeping became a general to about 1910 statistics show that young women were very vulnerable to typhus, cholera, child birth, small pox it was truly horrible, popular songs reflected just that, Listen to the Mocking Bird, which was adopted by the 3 Stooges, actually find the words and read them. . There was a culture of death or rather dealing with death throughout the Victorian Age. If you go to any relatively old cemetery you should count the headstones of you woman who died in their late teens to early thirties. The numbers are sometimes astounding. We should mourn the loss of this young woman, but be very thankful it happens so much less frequently today. Manuel Magalhães wrote: Thanks for posting this. Unfortunately it's becoming more and more present in our lives or in the surroundings. So much pain, and yet so much courage. Best regards, Manuel -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Derby Chang Enviada: terça-feira, 8 de Abril de 2008 11:06 Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Assunto: Pulitzer I am speechless http://www.prestongannaway.com/main.php (the Pulitzer winning entry is under Stories and Essays - Remember Me) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
On Apr 9, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Lucas Rijnders wrote: it such that Lightroom will recognize it. Lightroom recognizes all Pentax lenses properly now, far as I can tell, given the data that is available. I obviously use another class of lenses than you do: My SMC Pentax-FA 1:4,7-5,6 80-200 reports as SMC Pentax-F 1:4,7-5,6 80-200. I'll try to make adobe aware of this small glitch. lol ... Yes indeed, I don't own nor have I tested all Pentax lenses for their metadata description! ;-) All the ones I've owned and used are reflected correctly in Lightroom's metadata browser. There's always some question as to whether the metadata is correct vs whether Lightroom is interpreting it correctly. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Perfect Form
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or a decent shot with an imperfect lens. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7147418 Two things here. First: I'm training Grace to be a placekicker in the NFL. Note the perfect form. Hand out for balance. Head down. She's a natural. snip Tom Dempsey's record will finally fall... ;-) She's a natural, Paul! cheers, frank ps: cute pic (as always with Grace) -f -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Back after a long time; plus some Good Stuff for sale like FA* 600/4
I'm glad to see olde friends on PDML. I have been unable to follow the list for some time now, mid 2004 actually, and I re-subscribed just today. Apparently Pentax has a couple of new cameras with nice features since I last posted... Anyway, part of the reason I re-upped PDML is I have a few too many cameras and many too many lenses and accessories. I see a Big House Cleaning soon, lenses and accessories from FA* 600/4 on down. I'm sure I'll keep a good set of gear, probably get a Pentax camera upgrade to my IstD, but I'm really going to downsize this time. I'll keep one Pentax DSLR, a couple of zooms and maybe 2-3 more lenses, one good flash, tripod and simple head, minor accessories. On the items I'm going to sell, prices are not firm yet since I don't know the going rate nowadays, but will be fair and probably under Ebay. Will ship overseas if the buyer makes the arrangements on their end and all I have to do is drop off the box and sign the customs form. Offers welcome, reasonable or not, public or private. Will reply as quickly as I can. Partial list: PENTAX FA* 600/4 WITH ORIGINAL FACTORY FULL KIT INCLUDES FITTED METAL HARD CASE, HOOD, INTERNAL FILTERS WALLET, NECK/SHOULDER STRAP) MISC. EXTRAS KIT FOR 600/4: PENTAX 1.4 AND 2.0 XL MF TC's; WIMBERLEY HEAD; REALLY RIGHT STUFF QR RELEASE AND FOOT SPECIFIC TO FA* 600/4; DOMKE LONG LENS BAG W/ KINESIS BACKPACK HARNESS PENTAX F* 300/4.5 TOKINA ATX 300/2.8 MANUAL FOCUS MINT W/CASE, BAG. PENTAX FA 100/2.8 MACRO PENTAX FA 50/2.8 MACRO PENTAX SMCP-M 20/4 PENTAX REAR CONVERTOR-A 2X-L PENTAX SMCP-F 24-50/4 PENTAX REAR CONVERTOR-A 1.4X-L SIGMA AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 PHOENIX 100/3.5 MACRO PENTAX SMC-F 1.7X AF ADAPTOR KENKO PZ-AF 1.5X TELEPLUS SHQ PENTAX F 50/1.7 PENTAX PZ-1p PENTAX MZ-10 WIMBERLEY LONG LENS HEAD PENTAX AF-500 FTZ FLASH PENTAX 16X50 PCF BINOCULARS DOMKE LONG LENS BAG FOR 600/4 BOGEN TRIPOD 3021 PENTAX SMCP-M 85/2 PENTAX FA 28-80/3.5-4.7 PHOENIX 18-28/4-4.5 KENKO PZ-AF UNIPLUS TUBE 25 PENTAX PZ-10 LOWE-PROBAG OFF-ROAD BOGEN MONOPOD 3249B BOGEN HEAD 3262QR PENTAX SMC-P 50/1.2 PENTAX SMCP-A 50/1.4 VIVITAR 2X MACRO FOCUSING TELECONVERTOR PENTAX SMCP-A 50/2 PENTAX 24/2.8 110 PENTAX AUTO 110 SET BOXED REALIST REALIST STEREO WHITE 3.5 w/extras PENTAX ME Super PENTAX AUTO 110, FLASH, 24MM PENTAX AUTO 110 PENTAX DATA BACK FD-P1 BOGEN TRIPOD 3205 PENTAX EXTENSION TUBE SET 3 PENTAX AF280T FLASH PENTAX AF240T FLASH STROBOFRAME FLASH BRACKET FLIP BOGEN HEAD 3047 CANON BAG PENTAX AF200T FLASH PENTAX HOT SHOE ADAPTOR FG LOWE-PROBAG NOVA 1 PENTAX CABLE SWITCH F PENTAX CABLE SWITCH F PENTAX EXTENSION CORD F5P HOYA67MM 81A FILTER PENTAX 58MM SKY FILTER HOYA58MM UV FILTER HOYA58MM UV FILTER PENTAX 49MM HAZE FILTER HOYA49MM UV FILTER HOYA49MM UV FILTER HOYA52MM UV FILTER HOYA49MM UV FILTER PENTAX SMCP 200/2.5 (QTY 2) VIVITAR 90-180/4.5 FLAT FIELD MACRO, CULT CLASSIC (MODIFIED TO FIT KAF WITHOUT BINDING) RIESRIES JR. DELUXE TRI-LOK TRIPOD (WOOD) VIVITAR lens, SERIES ONE 135/2.3 K-MOUNT VIVITAR lens, SERIES ONE 135/2.3 FOR NIKON OTHERS: SEVERAL HAMMERHEAD FLASHES, QUANTUM PRO FLASH BATTERIES, CORDS, FILTERS 49-55-58-62-67-77, ETC. PLUS MANY OTHER ITEMS - LIKE A PENTAX SWISS ARMY KNIFE WITH LASER ENGRAVED WOOD HANDLES... I also have quite a few quality refurbished old school 80's road and hardtail MTB bicycles needing a good home. Steel is real... I look forward to talking to my old PDML friends Doug, Cotty, Rob, David and all the rest of you again. I'm now living in northeast Texas, selling watermelons out the back of my little red pickup and trying not to collect cans off the highway for pocket change ;-) Ya'll take care, -- John Mustarde Paris, Texas aka Texdance -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: yet another Lightroom question
Thanks Charles and Godfrey. It is clear that it will need a different file structure as I'm used to with Elements by just keeping both DNG and JPG in the same folder. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: woensdag 9 april 2008 20:58 To: PDML List Subject: re: yet another Lightroom question Charles answered Henk's original question on point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pulitzer
P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by more and more present, but really the reason this is such a tragedy is that is so unusual for a relatively young healthy woman to die prematurely. From the 1840's, when good record keeping became a general to about 1910 statistics show that young women were very vulnerable to typhus, cholera, child birth, small pox it was truly horrible, popular songs reflected just that, Listen to the Mocking Bird, which was adopted by the 3 Stooges, actually find the words and read them. . There was a culture of death or rather dealing with death throughout the Victorian Age. If you go to any relatively old cemetery you should count the headstones of you woman who died in their late teens to early thirties. The numbers are sometimes astounding. We should mourn the loss of this young woman, but be very thankful it happens so much less frequently today. I think he means cancer, specifically, the rates for which are indeed going up. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: yet another Lightroom question
Lightroom can do that but it's not the best way to organize things IMO. Godfrey On Apr 9, 2008, at 1:55 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: Thanks Charles and Godfrey. It is clear that it will need a different file structure as I'm used to with Elements by just keeping both DNG and JPG in the same folder. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi Sent: woensdag 9 april 2008 20:58 To: PDML List Subject: re: yet another Lightroom question Charles answered Henk's original question on point. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back after a long time; plus some Good Stuff for sale like FA* 600/4
Mustard, you evil b**, you're selling a bunch of stuff on my want list just when I decided to not buy anything else until I can afford a K20D. Now I'm going to have to sit here and stew... John Mustarde wrote: I'm glad to see olde friends on PDML. I have been unable to follow the list for some time now, mid 2004 actually, and I re-subscribed just today. Apparently Pentax has a couple of new cameras with nice features since I last posted... Anyway, part of the reason I re-upped PDML is I have a few too many cameras and many too many lenses and accessories. I see a Big House Cleaning soon, lenses and accessories from FA* 600/4 on down. I'm sure I'll keep a good set of gear, probably get a Pentax camera upgrade to my IstD, but I'm really going to downsize this time. I'll keep one Pentax DSLR, a couple of zooms and maybe 2-3 more lenses, one good flash, tripod and simple head, minor accessories. On the items I'm going to sell, prices are not firm yet since I don't know the going rate nowadays, but will be fair and probably under Ebay. Will ship overseas if the buyer makes the arrangements on their end and all I have to do is drop off the box and sign the customs form. Offers welcome, reasonable or not, public or private. Will reply as quickly as I can. Partial list: PENTAXFA* 600/4 WITH ORIGINAL FACTORY FULL KIT INCLUDES FITTED METAL HARD CASE, HOOD, INTERNAL FILTERS WALLET, NECK/SHOULDER STRAP) MISC. EXTRAS KIT FOR 600/4: PENTAX 1.4 AND 2.0 XL MF TC's; WIMBERLEY HEAD; REALLY RIGHT STUFF QR RELEASE AND FOOT SPECIFIC TO FA* 600/4; DOMKE LONG LENS BAG W/ KINESIS BACKPACK HARNESS PENTAXF* 300/4.5 TOKINAATX 300/2.8 MANUAL FOCUS MINT W/CASE, BAG. PENTAXFA 100/2.8 MACRO PENTAXFA 50/2.8 MACRO PENTAXSMCP-M 20/4 PENTAXREAR CONVERTOR-A 2X-L PENTAXSMCP-F 24-50/4 PENTAXREAR CONVERTOR-A 1.4X-L SIGMA AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 PHOENIX 100/3.5 MACRO PENTAXSMC-F 1.7X AF ADAPTOR KENKO PZ-AF 1.5X TELEPLUS SHQ PENTAXF 50/1.7 PENTAXPZ-1p PENTAXMZ-10 WIMBERLEY LONG LENS HEAD PENTAXAF-500 FTZ FLASH PENTAX16X50 PCF BINOCULARS DOMKE LONG LENS BAG FOR 600/4 BOGEN TRIPOD 3021 PENTAXSMCP-M 85/2 PENTAXFA 28-80/3.5-4.7 PHOENIX 18-28/4-4.5 KENKO PZ-AF UNIPLUS TUBE 25 PENTAXPZ-10 LOWE-PRO BAG OFF-ROAD BOGEN MONOPOD 3249B BOGEN HEAD 3262QR PENTAXSMC-P 50/1.2 PENTAXSMCP-A 50/1.4 VIVITAR 2X MACRO FOCUSING TELECONVERTOR PENTAXSMCP-A 50/2 PENTAX24/2.8 110 PENTAXAUTO 110 SET BOXED REALIST REALIST STEREO WHITE 3.5 w/extras PENTAXME Super PENTAXAUTO 110, FLASH, 24MM PENTAXAUTO 110 PENTAXDATA BACK FD-P1 BOGEN TRIPOD 3205 PENTAXEXTENSION TUBE SET 3 PENTAXAF280T FLASH PENTAXAF240T FLASH STROBOFRAME FLASH BRACKET FLIP BOGEN HEAD 3047 CANON BAG PENTAXAF200T FLASH PENTAXHOT SHOE ADAPTOR FG LOWE-PRO BAG NOVA 1 PENTAXCABLE SWITCH F PENTAXCABLE SWITCH F PENTAXEXTENSION CORD F5P HOYA 67MM 81A FILTER PENTAX58MM SKY FILTER HOYA 58MM UV FILTER HOYA 58MM UV FILTER PENTAX49MM HAZE FILTER HOYA 49MM UV FILTER HOYA 49MM UV FILTER HOYA 52MM UV FILTER HOYA 49MM UV FILTER PENTAXSMCP 200/2.5 (QTY 2) VIVITAR 90-180/4.5 FLAT FIELD MACRO, CULT CLASSIC (MODIFIED TO FIT KAF WITHOUT BINDING) RIES RIES JR. DELUXE TRI-LOK TRIPOD (WOOD) VIVITAR lens, SERIES ONE 135/2.3 K-MOUNT VIVITAR lens, SERIES ONE 135/2.3 FOR NIKON OTHERS: SEVERAL HAMMERHEAD FLASHES, QUANTUM PRO FLASH BATTERIES, CORDS, FILTERS 49-55-58-62-67-77, ETC. PLUS MANY OTHER ITEMS - LIKE A PENTAX SWISS ARMY KNIFE WITH LASER ENGRAVED WOOD HANDLES... I also have quite a few quality refurbished old school 80's road and hardtail MTB bicycles needing a good home. Steel is real... I look forward to talking to my old PDML friends Doug, Cotty, Rob, David and all the rest of you again. I'm now living in northeast Texas, selling watermelons out the back of my little red pickup and trying not to collect cans off the highway for pocket change ;-) Ya'll take care, -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back after a long time; plus some Good Stuff for sale like FA* 600/4
On 9/4/08, John Mustarde, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm sure I'll keep a good set of gear, probably get a Pentax camera upgrade to my IstD, but I'm really going to downsize this time Mark!! Welcome back John. You got a Tokina 300 2.8 in that lot??? ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: One lens only...
Now let's have someone use it in a quotation worthy of a PDML/NCCF t-shirt and I'll make it available in the store... The Lens Police Is this your lens sir? Now then, sir. Let's just see how wide your aperture can go, shall we? (sound of latex...) Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Back after a long time; plus some Good Stuff for sale like FA* 600/4
On 9/4/08, John Mustarde, discombobulated, unleashed: TOKINA ATX 300/2.8 MANUAL FOCUS MINT W/CASE, BAG. yes you do :-O -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pulitzer
Yes but the death rates due to so many things that would have killed people before they had a chance to develop cancer have fallen so much. Some cancers can even be prevented with vaccines today that have killed thousands of women in the past. It's getting better, and has been for a long time. Mark Roberts wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: I'm not sure what you mean by more and more present, but really the reason this is such a tragedy is that is so unusual for a relatively young healthy woman to die prematurely. From the 1840's, when good record keeping became a general to about 1910 statistics show that young women were very vulnerable to typhus, cholera, child birth, small pox it was truly horrible, popular songs reflected just that, Listen to the Mocking Bird, which was adopted by the 3 Stooges, actually find the words and read them. . There was a culture of death or rather dealing with death throughout the Victorian Age. If you go to any relatively old cemetery you should count the headstones of you woman who died in their late teens to early thirties. The numbers are sometimes astounding. We should mourn the loss of this young woman, but be very thankful it happens so much less frequently today. I think he means cancer, specifically, the rates for which are indeed going up. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
