Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[P. J. Alling]

It seems to be a server side error.  Here is the error message:
-

Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0113'

Script timed out

/aspupload/detail.asp

The maximum amount of time for a script to execute was exceeded. You can 
change this limit by specifying a new value for the property 
Server.ScriptTimeout or by changing the value in the IIS administration 
tools.

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I don't recall ever getting this error from any of your posts before but 
I've seen similar errors before.


Jack Davis wrote:
> I don't, but you're the first to mention it.(?) Do you recall it having 
> happened in the past?
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:53 PM
>> Unless you run your own server, you should complain to your
>> ISP.
>>
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>>> Hmmm... Sorry!(??) Maybe someone can give me advice as
>>>   
>> to how I might fix it.?
>> 
>>> Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling
>>>   
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>>   
>>>   
 From: P. J. Alling
 
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> 
 Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
 
>> 
>> 
 Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
 I get an asp error trying to open the page.

 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 
> You may have read/heard about California's
>   
>> worse
>> 
>   
>   
 than usual forest fire problem this year. Last I
 
>> read,
>> 
 there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning
 
>> over the
>> 
 state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We
 
>> live in
>> 
 the northern central valley. The combination of
 
>> smoke
>> 
 trapped under a cap of high ozone caused by
 
>> extreme heat
>> 
 (113F forecast for today) has produced some very
 
>> chunky,
>> 
 absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing
 
>> creatures
>> 
 and dangerous for many.
 
 
> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about
>   
>> 7:30
>> 
>   
>   
 this AM. Makes my eyes burn just looking at it. I
 
>> know,
>> 
 that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
 
 
> Jack (cough-cough)
>
>
>   
>   
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=317
>> 
 
 
> Comments gladly accepted.
>
>
>   
>
>   
>   
>   
 -- 
 You get further with a kind word and a gun, than
 
>> with a
>> 
 kind word alone.
--Al Capone.


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FS Friday: Various lenses & body

[Mike Hamilton]

At the moment, I"m having a hard time locating my card reader.  My  
desk is a bit of a sty.  I have taken photos of these items, and will  
provide images once I have them onto the web.

FA 20-35 f/4 -- excellent condition.  I purchased this new from B&H in  
2006.   Includes original caps, hood, lens bag.  $415

DA 50-200 ED f/4-5.6 -- excellent condition.  Bought last summer.   
It's not a lens that I use often.  Includes original caps, hood.  $160

Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 28mm f/3.5 -- legendary optics, supposed  
best of the 28s.  This is the 49mm filter design.  Tiny, thin  
scratches on front element, probably about 3mm long.  Body & hood are  
in very good condition. $60

Zenitar 16mm f/2.8 -- very good condition.  Includes original front &  
rear caps, clear rear filter (and I'm sure that I have the others  
around also - just have to find them!), and original lens bag.  $130

MZ-5 body -- used this body for a few rolls of film.  Very nice to  
use.  Flash spring is broken, so it does not pop-up.  Still works, but  
requires a finger to hold it in position.  Wasn't an issue for me, the  
tiny on-board flashes are rarely used.  $50

Prices do not include shipping, from Edmonton, Canada.

Contact me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks!
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Re: announce: July exhibit at Pacific Art League (L2)

[jens]

Congratulations Gidfrey, very nice work.
Regards
Jens
> Hello folks!
>
> I'm participating in an mixed media exhibit at the Pacific Art League
> in Palo Alto, California this month named "Landscape: America The
> Beautiful". The full set of my submissions is available for viewing
> on Flickr at
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157606098894149/
>
> Five of these photos have been accepted for exhibit ... they said to
> be creative about it! :-)
>
> I will be attending the reception on Friday, July 11. It would be a
> pleasure to meet you there. Here's the full information for the
> event ...
>
> ---
> Landscape: America the Beautiful
>
> Intriguing landscapes in all 2D genre - painting, drawing, mixed
> media, photography, fabric art, mosaic ...
>
> July 3 - 29, 2008
>
> Reception:
> July 11, 2008 :: 6 - 9pm
>
> 7:00pm Awards Presentation
>
> ---
> Pacific Art League
> 668 Ramona Street, Palo Alto, CA 94301
> Tel: (650) 321-3891
>
> http://www.pacificartleague.org/
>
> Hours:
> Office and galleries are open
> Monday - Friday: 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
> Saturday: 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
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announce: July exhibit at Pacific Art League (L2)

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hello folks!

I'm participating in an mixed media exhibit at the Pacific Art League  
in Palo Alto, California this month named "Landscape: America The  
Beautiful". The full set of my submissions is available for viewing  
on Flickr at

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/sets/72157606098894149/

Five of these photos have been accepted for exhibit ... they said to  
be creative about it! :-)

I will be attending the reception on Friday, July 11. It would be a  
pleasure to meet you there. Here's the full information for the  
event ...

---
Landscape: America the Beautiful

Intriguing landscapes in all 2D genre - painting, drawing, mixed  
media, photography, fabric art, mosaic ...

July 3 - 29, 2008

Reception:
July 11, 2008 :: 6 - 9pm

7:00pm Awards Presentation

---
Pacific Art League
668 Ramona Street, Palo Alto, CA 94301
Tel: (650) 321-3891

http://www.pacificartleague.org/

Hours:
Office and galleries are open
Monday - Friday: 9 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Saturday: 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
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Re: PESO: Harley in Any Language

[Doug Franklin]

Rick Womer wrote:
> Spotted in the Gendarmenplatz in Berlin:

"Gendarmenplatz"?  Was that in the French Sector after WW2?

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Re: Our new Web site under construction

[Brian Walters]

Hi Ted

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 12:45:09 -0500, "Ted Beilby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> Finally have gotten something online for our work and looking for 
> suggestions while I work on it.
> 
> www.beilbyvisualarts.com
> 
> Comments desired and appreciated. Still trying to get it all worked out
> and 
> will be adding more pages and photos soon.
> 



Congratulations on getting a web site up - it can be frustrating to get
the images and layout looking the way you want but it's worth the
effort.

Others have commented on the fact that some images are far too large for
quick display on a web site.  It seems that you have resized many of the
images to their correct display size but others are being resized by the
browser from very large images, and this slows down the time it takes
for the pages to load. People are just not going to be that patient! For
example on the "Ted's Images" page your "needles and trees" image is
being resized by the browser from the full 10MB (2592 x 3872 pixels)
image. 

I notice also that you have a "right click disabled" script running.  I
really think this is a waste of time for two reasons: 1)  it can be
counter-productive for potential customers as it basically tells your
visitors that you think they are thieves (they may well be, but those
that aren't might feel aggrieved and less inclined to buy) and, 2) it
doesn't do anything useful - if someone wants to steal an image, they
can just drag it to their desktop (this is how I found out the size of
"needles and trees" - I've now deleted it from my desktop, by the way
:-)>

My only other comment on the layout is that the pages involve quite a
lot of scrolling.  I much prefer photo sites where the images are
presented as a gallery of thumbnails that link to larger images for
better viewing.

Good luck with the site.




Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2 Revised

[Mark Roberts]

Rick Womer wrote:
> The original was, indeed, drab.  Mark Roberts sent me a version he touched 
> up.  I've never done much with post-processing, but his version was =so= much 
> better that it inspired me to take a careful look at Mark's and its 
> histogram, then spend a while in Lightroom figuring out what he did (curves! 
> gack!).
> 
> After boosting saturation and vibrance, turning the tone curve from a 
> straight line into a sigmoid, and then cropping tighter to get rid of some 
> crap in the gutter, this is what resulted:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7535156
> 
> The original:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836
> 
> A striking improvement, I would say.

You can post the version I sent you for comparison. I didn't touch the 
saturation on mine, but it ended up with the *appearance* of increased 
saturation.

Also, I burned in a couple of spots and applied some lens blur to the 
foliage in the background left. (Yeah, I know in my original post I said 
that all it needed was a little curves adjustment, but after I wrote 
that I decided some other help was needed. Still nothing excessive.)

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PESO: Harley in Any Language

[Rick Womer]

Spotted in the Gendarmenplatz in Berlin:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7535218

K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 400, f/8 @ 1/350, RAW via LR.

Rick


  

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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2 Revised

[pnstenquist]

Better, but oversaturated. I would go back to the original, push the curve up 
in the middle to increase midrange brightness, then take a second turn at 
curves and turn it into a gentle sigmoid.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The original was, indeed, drab.  Mark Roberts sent me a version he touched 
> up.  
> I've never done much with post-processing, but his version was =so= much 
> better 
> that it inspired me to take a careful look at Mark's and its histogram, then 
> spend a while in Lightroom figuring out what he did (curves! gack!).
> 
> After boosting saturation and vibrance, turning the tone curve from a 
> straight 
> line into a sigmoid, and then cropping tighter to get rid of some crap in the 
> gutter, this is what resulted:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7535156
> 
> The original:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836
> 
> A striking improvement, I would say.
> 
> Thanks Mark!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
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PESO: Window Boxes 2 Revised

[Rick Womer]

The original was, indeed, drab.  Mark Roberts sent me a version he touched up.  
I've never done much with post-processing, but his version was =so= much better 
that it inspired me to take a careful look at Mark's and its histogram, then 
spend a while in Lightroom figuring out what he did (curves! gack!).

After boosting saturation and vibrance, turning the tone curve from a straight 
line into a sigmoid, and then cropping tighter to get rid of some crap in the 
gutter, this is what resulted:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7535156

The original:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836

A striking improvement, I would say.

Thanks Mark!

Rick




  

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Re: July PUG is up

[pnstenquist]

Including yours. I remember that series. You really nailed the trailing shutter 
synch effect. Nice.
Pauls
 -- Original message --
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 10/7/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on
> >line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> GREAT gallery - lots of 'wow' shots. Too many fab pics to pick a
> favourite. Well done all.
> 
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> Cheers,
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Re: Our new Web site under construction

[Cotty]

On 10/7/08, Ted Beilby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Finally have gotten something online for our work and looking for
>suggestions while I work on it.
>
>www.beilbyvisualarts.com
>
>Comments desired and appreciated. Still trying to get it all worked out and
>will be adding more pages and photos soon.
>
>thanks Ted Beilby

Er, the thumbnail of St Maries, ID on the first page is 4.9 MB!!!

I didn't go any further.

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Re: PESO - Cricket Practice

[Cotty]

On 10/7/08, Tim Øsleby, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Very good Cotty. Interesting clean comp.
>Almost makes me interested i cricket ;-)

Thanks Tim.

Er, you going to be near Bergen around the beginning of August by any chance?

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Re: July PUG is up

[Cotty]

On 10/7/08, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on
>line.  http://pug.komkon.org/

GREAT gallery - lots of 'wow' shots. Too many fab pics to pick a
favourite. Well done all.

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Re: Hilarious Photoshop hijinks from those nutty Revolutionary Guards

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:
>> Pretty bad when it's obvious at this small a size...
>> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/2008/07/iranian_missile_tests
>> _not_what.html
>>
> 
> after all, it's not rocket science!

[rimshot!]

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RE: Hilarious Photoshop hijinks from those nutty Revolutionary Guards

[Bob W]

> 
> Pretty bad when it's obvious at this small a size...
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/2008/07/iranian_missile_tests
> _not_what.html
> 

after all, it's not rocket science!

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Re: PESO: Window Boxes

[Doug Franklin]

Rick Womer wrote:

> I would welcome your comments about Window Boxes 2 (on which only Dave
> has commented).  I thought it more interesting than this shot, though
> not as colorful.

"Window Boxes 2" doesn't grab me nearly as much.  For one thing, I don't 
care for the jumble of OOF trees and the neighbor's roof on the left 
edge.  And I think I'd like to see more of the window boxes themselves. 
  Actually, I think the whole thing would work better for me if you'd 
shot it from a little left of where you did, so we get more of a "face 
on" view of the wall rather than the very oblique view in #2.  But 
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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[Jack Davis]

I don't, but you're the first to mention it.(?) Do you recall it having 
happened in the past?

Jack


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 2:53 PM
> Unless you run your own server, you should complain to your
> ISP.
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> > Hmmm... Sorry!(??) Maybe someone can give me advice as
> to how I might fix it.?
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: P. J. Alling
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> >> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
> >> I get an asp error trying to open the page.
> >>
> >> Jack Davis wrote:
> >> 
> >>> You may have read/heard about California's
> worse
> >>>   
> >> than usual forest fire problem this year. Last I
> read,
> >> there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning
> over the
> >> state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We
> live in
> >> the northern central valley. The combination of
> smoke
> >> trapped under a cap of high ozone caused by
> extreme heat
> >> (113F forecast for today) has produced some very
> chunky,
> >> absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing
> creatures
> >> and dangerous for many.
> >> 
> >>> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about
> 7:30
> >>>   
> >> this AM. Makes my eyes burn just looking at it. I
> know,
> >> that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
> >> 
> >>> Jack (cough-cough)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=317
> >> 
> >>> Comments gladly accepted.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> -- 
> >> You get further with a kind word and a gun, than
> with a
> >> kind word alone.
> >>--Al Capone.
> >>
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Re: July PUG is up

[Brian Walters]

Can I add my note of appreciation, Scott?  Thanks for your efforts.

An excellent gallery and I agree with others about Jos' "Voetballer
Niels".  Great shot and a wonderful expression on the boy's face.

I also particularly liked Mark's "Future Champion", Paul's "Whiplash"
(again, great facial expression), Doug's "Ah Crap" (the tufts of grass
in the air really make the shot) and Christine's "Ruby Jumps" is just an
enjoyable, fun shot.

I'm still cleaning up the coffee on my keyboard as a result of Walt's
"Scottish Lassie" (those Port-a-loos in the background look to be in
serious danger)

And, I like George's "Orestiada lake the afternoon" both in its own
right and as an unexpected interpretation of the theme.




Cheers

Brian

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On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:03:42 -0400, "Scott Loveless"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on 
> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> The August theme is "Architecture".  Submit photos at
> http://pdmlpug.org/.
> 
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Hilarious Photoshop hijinks from those nutty Revolutionary Guards

[Mark Roberts]

Pretty bad when it's obvious at this small a size...
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/news/2008/07/iranian_missile_tests_not_what.html



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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Mark Roberts]

Kevin Waterson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> I would think so. But I bet that quite a few wealthy hobbyists buy them as 
>> well.
> 
> 
> 
> I have been to several Hasselblad function where we get to test drive new
> blads. My experience here in Sydney is that the most common users are
> wedding photographers.

If you're a wedding photographer who charges $5000-$10,000 (or more) per 
gig and whose clients are millionaires, you probably *need* a $40,000 
camera. Not for the image quality, necessarily, but as part of *your* 
image, with which you have to market yourself to that kind of customer.

Not a big deal for those guys - the camera will pay for itself fairly 
quickly and its depreciation written of as a business expense.

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Kevin Waterson]

This one time, at band camp, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I would think so. But I bet that quite a few wealthy hobbyists buy them as 
> well.



I have been to several Hasselblad function where we get to test drive new
blads. My experience here in Sydney is that the most common users are
wedding photographers.

Their is a good showing of design/print houses and a few of the wealthy
hobbists, but I find mostly it is the crowd of wedding photogs who want,
or demand, the highest possible resolution.

Im not sure how or when, 35mm became a "pro" level camera for weddings,
but now that there is more glass available for the blads, many of wedding
photogs seem to moving back into MF.

Just my observations
Kevin

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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[P. J. Alling]

Unless you run your own server, you should complain to your ISP.

Jack Davis wrote:
> Hmmm... Sorry!(??) Maybe someone can give me advice as to how I might fix it.?
>
> Jack
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
>> I get an asp error trying to open the page.
>>
>> Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>>> You may have read/heard about California's worse
>>>   
>> than usual forest fire problem this year. Last I read,
>> there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning over the
>> state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in
>> the northern central valley. The combination of smoke
>> trapped under a cap of high ozone caused by extreme heat
>> (113F forecast for today) has produced some very chunky,
>> absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing creatures
>> and dangerous for many.
>> 
>>> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30
>>>   
>> this AM. Makes my eyes burn just looking at it. I know,
>> that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
>> 
>>> Jack (cough-cough)
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=317
>> 
>>> Comments gladly accepted.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>   
>>>   
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>> kind word alone.
>>  --Al Capone.
>>
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RE: Our new Web site under construction

[Bob W]

Some of the pictures are very slow to load. There are quite a few
spelling mistakes (for example, you have spelt 'monastery' at least 3
different ways, Tibetian should be Tibetan, and Budda should be
Buddha).

Bob 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Ted Beilby
> Sent: 10 July 2008 18:45
> To: Pentax Mail List
> Subject: Our new Web site under construction
> 
> Finally have gotten something online for our work and looking for 
> suggestions while I work on it.
> 
> www.beilbyvisualarts.com
> 
> Comments desired and appreciated. Still trying to get it all 
> worked out and 
> will be adding more pages and photos soon.
> 
> thanks Ted Beilby 


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Re: PESO - Ferrari!

[Tim Øsleby]

I'm not much of a car photo fan, but this made me smile.
I smiled even wider when you told us it was standing still.


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2008/7/4 frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> There's something about a Ferrari...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/5dqgoe
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SG4ZMiO6SFI/Ch0/tE9j-tr88pc/s1600-h/july_04_08+002.jpg
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank

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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[Jack Davis]

Hmmm... Sorry!(??) Maybe someone can give me advice as to how I might fix it.?

Jack


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 10:56 AM
> I get an asp error trying to open the page.
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> > You may have read/heard about California's worse
> than usual forest fire problem this year. Last I read,
> there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning over the
> state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in
> the northern central valley. The combination of smoke
> trapped under a cap of high ozone caused by extreme heat
> (113F forecast for today) has produced some very chunky,
> absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing creatures
> and dangerous for many.
> > Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30
> this AM. Makes my eyes burn just looking at it. I know,
> that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
> >
> > Jack (cough-cough)
> >
> >
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=317
> >
> > Comments gladly accepted.
> >
> >
> >   
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> -- 
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> kind word alone.
>   --Al Capone.
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Re: July PUG is up

[Lucas Rijnders]

Op Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:17:15 +0200 schreef Mark Roberts  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Scott Loveless wrote:
>> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on
>> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> What a joke! Everyone knows you can't shoot sports & action with Pentax!
> The autofocus isn't good enough! The frame rate is too slow!
>
> Best shot of the PUG? IMHO, it's Jos van der Hijden's "Voetballer
> Niels".

Agreed.

> Come to think of it, that's one of the best sports shots I've
> seen ever.
> And it was taken with an MX.

A pro camera. In it's day, it's AF could match the best :o)

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Re: July PUG is up

[Jos from Holland]

Thanks Mark and others,
I knew it was a good shot, that's why I went through the trouble of 
digging through old negatives and the hastle of copying.
I feel flattered by your words!

Its a great pug, many contributions covering the subject

Jos

Mark Roberts wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>   
>> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on 
>> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
>> 
>
> What a joke! Everyone knows you can't shoot sports & action with Pentax! 
> The autofocus isn't good enough! The frame rate is too slow!
>
> Best shot of the PUG? IMHO, it's Jos van der Hijden's "Voetballer 
> Niels". Come to think of it, that's one of the best sports shots I've 
> seen ever.
> And it was taken with an MX.
>
>
>   

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Re: Our new Web site under construction

[Bob Sullivan]

Ted,
A number (not all) of the photos have artifacts, probably from oversharpening.
Many of the pictures are beautiful with vibrant colors.
I am not a fan of the book format.  It shrinks your picture presentation.
Regards, Bob S.

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>
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>
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[pnstenquist]

I would think so. But I bet that quite a few wealthy hobbyists buy them as well.
 -- Original message --
From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Mid level commercial photographers do just fine with Canon and Nikon. And 
> > if 
> they get a job that really justifies medium format digital, they can rent 
> equipment. But a mid level shooter who works for $2000 a day or so generally 
> doesn't get work that justifies MF expenditure. Some, of course, shoot MF or 
> large format film at that level.
> 
> I'm assuming the Hassy is for the big-name commercial guys who have $25k 
> day rates?
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Mid level commercial photographers do just fine with Canon and Nikon. And if 
> they get a job that really justifies medium format digital, they can rent 
> equipment. But a mid level shooter who works for $2000 a day or so generally 
> doesn't get work that justifies MF expenditure. Some, of course, shoot MF or 
> large format film at that level.

I'm assuming the Hassy is for the big-name commercial guys who have $25k 
day rates?


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Re: PESO: At the beach

[Tim Øsleby]

2008/7/10 Charles Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:03, Tim Øsleby wrote:
>
>> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=240339
>> Office friendly, dont worry.
>>
>> Exploring new (for me) ground.
>>
>> Comments appreciated. I don't know what to think. One part of me says
>> it's crap, another says it is art.
>> Most likely it is something  between.
>>
>
> I kinda like it.  Dark, moody, with some interesting colors in there.
>
> I keep wanting to shove the big white shell (with the snail in it) to
> the right so that it is centered, though.  Maybe that's just me being
> boring and rigid, but that's the only thing I'd change if it were my
> image.
>
>  -Charles
>
Thanks. I might try some other crops before printing. I have plenty of
room for crops as long as I don't print it very large.

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[pnstenquist]

Mid level commercial photographers do just fine with Canon and Nikon. And if 
they get a job that really justifies medium format digital, they can rent 
equipment. But a mid level shooter who works for $2000 a day or so generally 
doesn't get work that justifies MF expenditure. Some, of course, shoot MF or 
large format film at that level.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> What about Mid level commercial shooters, I guess they do with out.  
> (I'm glad I'm out of that game, I couldn't survive).
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > High-end commercial shooters can justify 40K for a camera. Some of the best 
> gross that much in a couple days of shooting. And Hassy doesn't expect high 
> volume, so that market alone probably absorbs much of their production. Then 
> there are the ridiculously rich hobbyists who have to have the latest and 
> greatest and for whom money is no object.
> >  -- Original message --
> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >   
> >> If you rent it sometimes you don't have it when you need it.  But that's 
> >> a possibility.
> >>
> >> Fernando wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I suppose they rent it, right?
> >>>
> >>> On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>   
>  It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
>  would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
>  studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
>  film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
>  that's what my gut tells me).
> 
>  Adam Maas wrote:
>  
>  
> > Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> > runs means huge prices.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> >   
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >   
> >   
> >> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other 
> >> models.
> >>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> > "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
> >
> >   
> >   
> >> Apparently hiding under the bed...
> >>
> >> On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
> >> here.
> >>
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070901Hasselblad.asp
> >>>
> >>> Pentax 645D where are you? :D
> >>>
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Re: Our new Web site under construction

[Mike Hamilton]

On 10-Jul-08, at 11:45 AM, Ted Beilby wrote:

> Finally have gotten something online for our work and looking for
> suggestions while I work on it.
>
> www.beilbyvisualarts.com
>
> Comments desired and appreciated. Still trying to get it all worked  
> out and
> will be adding more pages and photos soon.
>
> thanks Ted Beilby


Well, it's brave of you to put yourself out there like this!  I don't  
recognize you as a regular contributor to PDML (i'm not either - more  
occasional!).  Looks like you've put a lot of work into your website.   
With that said, here are my views:

Your images are not very interesting to me.  They seem over-processed  
(saturation and sharpening), but it appears as though this is the look  
you are going for.

The thumbnails that you have seem to be full size jpegs that have been  
coded in html as a smaller size.  That means that it takes a long time  
to load a small photograph.  I would advise re-sizing those images  
before uploading.

Good luck with your website.

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Fernando]

My guess: full frame and occassionally rent a MF digital, or an old
hassy and a phase one digital back (owned or rented)

On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about Mid level commercial shooters, I guess they do with out.
> (I'm glad I'm out of that game, I couldn't survive).
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > High-end commercial shooters can justify 40K for a camera. Some of the best 
> > gross that much in a couple days of shooting. And Hassy doesn't expect high 
> > volume, so that market alone probably absorbs much of their production. 
> > Then there are the ridiculously rich hobbyists who have to have the latest 
> > and greatest and for whom money is no object.
> >  -- Original message --
> > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> If you rent it sometimes you don't have it when you need it.  But that's
> >> a possibility.
> >>
> >> Fernando wrote:
> >>
> >>> I suppose they rent it, right?
> >>>
> >>> On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
>  would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
>  studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
>  film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
>  that's what my gut tells me).
> 
>  Adam Maas wrote:
> 
> 
> > Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> > runs means huge prices.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >
> >
> >> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other 
> >> models.
> >>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Apparently hiding under the bed...
> >>
> >> On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
> >> here.
> >>
> >>
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070901Hasselblad.asp
> >>>
> >>> Pentax 645D where are you? :D
> >>>
> >>> .t
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> alone.
> >>--Al Capone.
> >>
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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[P. J. Alling]

I get an asp error trying to open the page.

Jack Davis wrote:
> You may have read/heard about California's worse than usual forest fire 
> problem this year. Last I read, there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires 
> burning over the state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in the 
> northern central valley. The combination of smoke trapped under a cap of high 
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> dangerous for many.
> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30 this AM. Makes my eyes 
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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What about Mid level commercial shooters, I guess they do with out.  
(I'm glad I'm out of that game, I couldn't survive).

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> High-end commercial shooters can justify 40K for a camera. Some of the best 
> gross that much in a couple days of shooting. And Hassy doesn't expect high 
> volume, so that market alone probably absorbs much of their production. Then 
> there are the ridiculously rich hobbyists who have to have the latest and 
> greatest and for whom money is no object.
>  -- Original message --
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>> If you rent it sometimes you don't have it when you need it.  But that's 
>> a possibility.
>>
>> Fernando wrote:
>> 
>>> I suppose they rent it, right?
>>>
>>> On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>   
>>>   
 It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
 would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
 studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
 film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
 that's what my gut tells me).

 Adam Maas wrote:
 
 
> Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> runs means huge prices.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>   
>   
>> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
>>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
>
>   
>   
>> Apparently hiding under the bed...
>>
>> On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
>> here.
>>
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: July PUG is up

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Thanks for your efforts Scott.

Some great captures !

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From: "Scott Loveless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: July PUG is up


> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on
> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
>
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Re: July PUG is up

[Gonz]

Holy cow, nice gallery!

 I especially like:

Voetballer Niels by Jos van der Hijden (just about perfect!)

Ruby Jumps at Montrose Beach by Christine Aguila



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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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High-end commercial shooters can justify 40K for a camera. Some of the best 
gross that much in a couple days of shooting. And Hassy doesn't expect high 
volume, so that market alone probably absorbs much of their production. Then 
there are the ridiculously rich hobbyists who have to have the latest and 
greatest and for whom money is no object.
 -- Original message --
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> If you rent it sometimes you don't have it when you need it.  But that's 
> a possibility.
> 
> Fernando wrote:
> > I suppose they rent it, right?
> >
> > On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   
> >> It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
> >> would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
> >> studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
> >> film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
> >> that's what my gut tells me).
> >>
> >> Adam Maas wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> >>> runs means huge prices.
> >>>
> >>> -Adam
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>   
>  Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
>   (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
> 
> 
>  
> >>> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
>  Apparently hiding under the bed...
> 
>  On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
>  here.
> 
> 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>  
> > http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070901Hasselblad.asp
> >
> > Pentax 645D where are you? :D
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> > .t
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[P. J. Alling]

If you rent it sometimes you don't have it when you need it.  But that's 
a possibility.

Fernando wrote:
> I suppose they rent it, right?
>
> On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
>> would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
>> studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
>> film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
>> that's what my gut tells me).
>>
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>> 
>>> Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
>>> runs means huge prices.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)


 
>>> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
>>>
>>>   
 Apparently hiding under the bed...

 On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
 here.


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Re: Cough! Cough!

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Reminds me of 2004 - while I was in Denali N.P., we were getting heavy smoke 
from fires north of Fairbank, many miles away.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PESO: Cough! Cough!


> You may have read/heard about California's worse than usual forest fire 
> problem this year. Last I read, there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires 
> burning over the state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in 
> the northern central valley. The combination of smoke trapped under a cap 
> of high ozone caused by extreme heat (113F forecast for today) has 
> produced some very chunky, absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all 
> breathing creatures and dangerous for many.
> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30 this AM. Makes my eyes 
> burn just looking at it. I know, that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
>
> Jack (cough-cough)
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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Bob!

Jack


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 9:12 AM
> Jack,
> Got to say it sucks to be in northern California today.
> That sun is just obscured as if by clouds - looks like
> Shanghai air.
> 113F temps and that air quality are killers.
> I hope it all disipates soon.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Jack Davis
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You may have read/heard about California's worse
> than usual forest fire problem this year. Last I read,
> there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning over the
> state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in
> the northern central valley. The combination of smoke
> trapped under a cap of high ozone caused by extreme heat
> (113F forecast for today) has produced some very chunky,
> absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing creatures
> and dangerous for many.
> > Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30
> this AM. Makes my eyes burn just looking at it. I know,
> that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
> >
> > Jack (cough-cough)
> >
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Re: Window Boxes

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture. Good eye.

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- Original Message - 
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Subject: PESO: Window Boxes


>I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather 
>plain facade.  This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near 
>dusk.
>
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Re: July PUG is up

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On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Scott Loveless wrote:
>> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on
>> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> What a joke! Everyone knows you can't shoot sports & action with Pentax!
> The autofocus isn't good enough! The frame rate is too slow!
>
> Best shot of the PUG? IMHO, it's Jos van der Hijden's "Voetballer
> Niels". Come to think of it, that's one of the best sports shots I've
> seen ever.
> And it was taken with an MX.

Yes that is a great shot.

Some very good ones this month.

Worth the wait, and again, Scott, thanks for your efforts.

Dave
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Re: PESO: Cough! Cough!

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Jack,
Got to say it sucks to be in northern California today.
That sun is just obscured as if by clouds - looks like Shanghai air.
113F temps and that air quality are killers.
I hope it all disipates soon.
Regards,  Bob S.

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> problem this year. Last I read, there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires 
> burning over the state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in the 
> northern central valley. The combination of smoke trapped under a cap of high 
> ozone caused by extreme heat (113F forecast for today) has produced some very 
> chunky, absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing creatures and 
> dangerous for many.
> Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30 this AM. Makes my eyes 
> burn just looking at it. I know, that's true of most of my pictures..OK.
>
> Jack (cough-cough)
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2

[Bob Sullivan]

Rick,
#2 being drab is a real disadvantage.
The building is gray.  The window frames look uneven (dirty or wet grout).
There is other stuff in the frame (lower left).
The bright flowers don't 'sing' against a white background as in #1.
Interesting the contrast between the two photos...
Regards,  Bob S.

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> Thanks, Dave.  Drab wasn't what I was looking for, but it is what I got!
>
> Rick
>
>
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Nice angle. I like the drab look to the shot
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Rick Womer
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>> > Another set of window boxes, shot from our hotel room
>> near Wiesbaden, near dusk.
>> >
>> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836
>> >
>> > K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/ 5.6 @ 1/30, RAW via LR.
>> >
>> > For some reason, the camera really underexposed this
>> shot; I applied a full stop of exposure compensation in
>> Lightroom, and would have added more except that the
>> shadows started to get a bit noisy.
>> >
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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Most do.

-Adam

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suppose they rent it, right?
>
> On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
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>>
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>> > Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
>> > runs means huge prices.
>> >
>> > -Adam
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>> >>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
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PESO: Cough! Cough!

[Jack Davis]

You may have read/heard about California's worse than usual forest fire problem 
this year. Last I read, there are some 1,700 forest/grass fires burning over 
the state. Some man caused and many by lightning. We live in the northern 
central valley. The combination of smoke trapped under a cap of high ozone 
caused by extreme heat (113F forecast for today) has produced some very chunky, 
absolutely calm air. Unpleasant for all breathing creatures and dangerous for 
many.
Took a couple shots in the back yard at about 7:30 this AM. Makes my eyes burn 
just looking at it. I know, that's true of most of my pictures..OK.

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Re: July PUG is up

[Mark Roberts]

Scott Loveless wrote:
> It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on 
> line.  http://pug.komkon.org/

What a joke! Everyone knows you can't shoot sports & action with Pentax! 
The autofocus isn't good enough! The frame rate is too slow!

Best shot of the PUG? IMHO, it's Jos van der Hijden's "Voetballer 
Niels". Come to think of it, that's one of the best sports shots I've 
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Re: PESO: At the beach

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On Jul 8, 2008, at 12:03, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=240339
> Office friendly, dont worry.
>
> Exploring new (for me) ground.
>
> Comments appreciated. I don't know what to think. One part of me says
> it's crap, another says it is art.
> Most likely it is something  between.
>

I kinda like it.  Dark, moody, with some interesting colors in there.

I keep wanting to shove the big white shell (with the snail in it) to  
the right so that it is centered, though.  Maybe that's just me being  
boring and rigid, but that's the only thing I'd change if it were my  
image.

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July PUG is up

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It's been a whirlwind the last couple weeks, but the PUG is finally on 
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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I suppose they rent it, right?

On 7/10/08, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation),
> would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most
> studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using
> film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but
> that's what my gut tells me).
>
> Adam Maas wrote:
> > Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> > runs means huge prices.
> >
> > -Adam
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
> >>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
> >>
> >>
> > "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
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> >> here.
> >>
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2

[Mark Roberts]

Jack Davis wrote:
 > Well, I think you hit on one aspect of "2" and that's "drab".
 > Lacks some definition, the boxes/colors run together.

Nothing a little curves adjustment couldn't help.

  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836



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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2

[Jack Davis]

Well, I think you hit on one aspect of "2" and that's "drab". Lacks some 
definition, the boxes/colors run together. Makes me want to move to my left and 
away from the wall to judge what the shot does for me.
Basically, the angle and lighting frustrate me.

Jack


--- On Thu, 7/10/08, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 7:26 AM
> Thanks, Dave.  Drab wasn't what I was looking for, but
> it is what I got!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 7/10/08, David J Brooks
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> > Nice angle. I like the drab look to the shot
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Rick Womer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Another set of window boxes, shot from our hotel
> room
> > near Wiesbaden, near dusk.
> > >
> > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528836
> > >
> > > K10D, DA 50-200, ISO 560, f/ 5.6 @ 1/30, RAW via
> LR.
> > >
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> this
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> in
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes

[Rick Womer]

Paul, Jack, Bob, Dave, Doug:

Thanks very much for your comments!  You have actually made me appreciate the 
shot more than I did when I posted it.

I would welcome your comments about Window Boxes 2 (on which only Dave has 
commented).  I thought it more interesting than this shot, though not as 
colorful.




--- On Wed, 7/9/08, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rick,
> The flowers are wonderful and beautiful and well manicured.
> The composition and repeating pattern enhance the sense of
> good order.
> They work together to make this more than an extra-ordinary
> picture.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:49 PM, Rick Womer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of
> central Wiesbaden along the Lahnstrasse.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 7/9/08, Doug Franklin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Doug Franklin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: PESO: Window Boxes
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
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> >> Date: Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 8:17 PM
> >> Rick Womer wrote:
> >> > I love what Europeans do with flowers, and
> what the
> >> flowers do for a rather plain facade.  This is
> from a small
> >> town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7528824&size=lg
> >>
> >> Excellent!  Which small town was that?  I might
> actually
> >> recognize it.
> >> I had a customer in Wiesbaden back in the mid
> 1990s and
> >> traveled in the
> >> area quite a bit, since I typically went for two
> to three
> >> weeks at a time.
> >>
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Dave.  Drab wasn't what I was looking for, but it is what I got!

Rick


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> Nice angle. I like the drab look to the shot
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Rick Womer
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> >
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Re: PESO - Cricket Practice

[Tim Øsleby]

Very good Cotty. Interesting clean comp.
Almost makes me interested i cricket ;-)

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[P. J. Alling]

It seems on a per photo basis, (even a good size commercial operation), 
would never amortize one of these over their useful lifetime.  For most 
studios on a cost per shot basis it's would be less expensive using 
film.  (Ok, so that's not even back of the envelope calculations but 
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Adam Maas wrote:
> Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
> runs means huge prices.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
>>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
>>
>> 
> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
>   
>> Apparently hiding under the bed...
>>
>> On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
>> here.
>>
>>
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Adam Maas]

Remember, they sell a couple dozen of these a month. Small production
runs means huge prices.

-Adam

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 9:14 AM, Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
>
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> Apparently hiding under the bed...
>
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> here.
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PESO -- Fireworks NY 2007 II

[P. J. Alling]

Another fireworks shot from July 4th.

Continuing with my rant.  The image in Photoshop was exactly the same 
colors as seen in the raw converter, which is pretty damned close to the 
jpeg exported for the web.  Now I know it would be easier if I used 
lightroom but I'm a stubborn b*d.  These things are supposed to work 
damn it. 

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/fireworks/PESO%20--%20fwny2008_02.html

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax 85mm f2.0

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Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?

[Tim Øsleby]

Lol. Good grab.

2008/7/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> from the back yard...  It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside
> the feeder.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546
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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[P. J. Alling]

Don't know, but I suppose it would help if I could spell price...

Steve Desjardins wrote:
> Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
>  (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)
>
>   
 "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
 
> Apparently hiding under the bed...
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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2008/7/10 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/7/10 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> The soil is brown at the tracks, so it would probably accumulate some heat.
>
> The colour is right, yes, but the bog factor means most of the heat
> could be spent evaporating water...
>
> Jostein
>
Yes, But as I recall, the spots they pick are the peak spots of the
track. In other words, the dry spots.
I'm not claiming that Mike has found the solution,of the puzzle, but
IMO that piece fits in.

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[Steve Desjardins]

Yeah.  I think the $40K price tag leaves a bit of room for other models.
 (What is the emoticon for overwhelming sarcasm?)

>>> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7/10/2008 8:36 AM >>>
Apparently hiding under the bed...

On the other hand the formula Megapixels = Megapirce seems to hold
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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2008/7/10 Tim Øsleby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The soil is brown at the tracks, so it would probably accumulate some heat.

The colour is right, yes, but the bog factor means most of the heat
could be spent evaporating water...

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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2008/7/10 AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 2008/7/10 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.
>> Lying on roads after sunset is an interesting habit of sheep in
>> Scotland.  At least, it's a habit in the less populated areas.
>
> Interesting thought.
> I see the point for paved roads, but how much heating effect would a
> trail through a bog provide?
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> Jostein
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
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>
> The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.  Lying on 
> roads after sunset 
> is an interesting habit of sheep in Scotland.  At least, it's a habit in the 
> less populated 
> areas.

Ladies of the night?
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Re: PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

He looks like the one trouble maker i had on my bus run.
The shirt would suit him perfect.:-)

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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Apparently hiding under the bed...

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Re: PESO: Window Boxes 2

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Nice angle. I like the drab look to the shot

Dave

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Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

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On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 7:53 AM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/7/10 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Unless i now have something i REALLY like i don't bother, which means
>> i have not submitted in a while.:-)
>
> My thoughts exactly, too! :-)
>
> That trip to Runde was the first serious photography I've done since...
> well, probably since last year, really.

Aside from my equine work, my personal work is driving around the
country side, looking for old farm buildings, barns, equipment etc.
With gas getting expensive, for us North Americans, i have put that on
the shelf for a while, as i have covered most of the area close to
home. Now i find i am driving 100 Km or more to look for new
buildings. I;'ll get out there one or two days this summer, but i will
be more careful were i go.:-)

I know gas has been expensive in Europe for a long time, but this is
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes

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Thats a lovely shot Rick.
Sort of plain, with flair.:-)

Dave

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> I love what Europeans do with flowers, and what the flowers do for a rather 
> plain facade.  This is from a small town near Wiesbaden, Germany, near dusk.
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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I don't imagine that habit lasts very long on more well-traveled 
roadways.  :>]

-p

mike wilson wrote:

> 
> The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.  Lying on 
> roads after sunset is an interesting habit of sheep in Scotland.  At least, 
> it's a habit in the less populated areas.
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Re: PESO: Window Boxes

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Rick Womer wrote:
> This was near the Landhaus Diedert, a few km NW of central Wiesbaden
> along the Lahnstrasse.

Hmmm, nope, I don't remember that one.  I either didn't get out that 
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Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?

[AlunFoto]

LOL
Great shot, Bobs.

2008/7/10 Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> from the back yard...  It's easier to eat sunflower seeds from inside
> the feeder.
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan/Squirrel/photo#5221146368259002546
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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2008/7/10 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.
> Lying on roads after sunset is an interesting habit of sheep in
> Scotland.  At least, it's a habit in the less populated areas.

Interesting thought.
I see the point for paved roads, but how much heating effect would a
trail through a bog provide?

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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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2008/7/10 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.  Lying on 
> roads after sunset is an interesting habit of sheep in Scotland.  At least, 
> it's a habit in the less populated areas.
>

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Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

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2008/7/10 David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Unless i now have something i REALLY like i don't bother, which means
> i have not submitted in a while.:-)

My thoughts exactly, too! :-)

That trip to Runde was the first serious photography I've done since...
well, probably since last year, really.

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Re: OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

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> Pentax 645D where are you? :D

The 645D was "nailed to its perch" but now it's "pining for the fjords", 
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Re: PESO 2008 - 114 - GDG

[Derby Chang]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> u ...
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>Panasonic DMC-L1 + Olympus ZD 11-22mm f/2.8-3.5
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Re: OT - Question to birding people

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> 
> From: AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/07/09 Wed AM 10:22:09 GMT
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> 2008/7/9 mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> 2. This is simple territory marking; "here i reign, don't step closer".
> >
> > Unlikely without some associated form of display.
> 
> Question is whether taking stance on the ground in a overly
> conspicuous place qualifies...
> 
> But I agree... At least on a gut feeling level... :-)
> 
> >> 4. habituation to human presence.
> > Probably the most likely.  I have been within 10m of a live heron
> > recently, which is pretty near impossible normally.
> 
> Had a funny experience in that department myself the day before
> yesterday, of a heron hunting goldfish just outside the Hilton hotel
> Docklands at Nelson Dock. Pics may follow when I get back home.
> 
> However we only observed this display on the path itself, not in the
> surrounding terrain. The bird clearly had a preference for sitting
> down on the _path_, as opposed to sitting down close to human beings.
> And as Tim has remarked, if we stopped to look at them, they'd move
> away.

The path would likely be warmer than the surrounding vegetation.  Lying on 
roads after sunset is an interesting habit of sheep in Scotland.  At least, 
it's a habit in the less populated areas.


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OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie

[timber]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070901Hasselblad.asp

Pentax 645D where are you? :D

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Re: PESO: Is this feeder full?

[David J Brooks]

Good shot Bob.

We have a feeder just like this one, but they have yet to figure out
the in door.

Dave

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Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

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On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:08 AM, AlunFoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I submitted about half of my currently accepted pics before the peer
> voting started in September last year. The rest were submitted between
> September and December. Since I've been out of the loop for 6 months I
> don't know if things have changed now, but last year I saw no
> significant difference in acceptance rate before and after peer voting
> was introduced. But i DO think there was a change in what type of pics
> are accepted. I think I bitched a lot about that... :-)

Yes you did.:-)

I submitted mine right at the beginning and 4 of the 5 were accepted.
Most of those being GFM pictures.
Since then i have submitted some shots that won at the local fair, or
were well recieved here, but declined for the gallery.
Unless i now have something i REALLY like i don't bother, which means
i have not submitted in a while.:-)

Dave
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> Jostein
>
> 2008/7/9 Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> No, 1-10 is my voting average.  Since having originally 53 in the
>> gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in.  Not every single one has
>> been re-submitted but, most have.  I'd say my acceptance rate is more
>> like 1 in 30 now.  I attribute it to 2 major things.  One is the
>> gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier.  The other
>> is peer voting.
>>
>> If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the early
>> days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe everyone
>> is out to get me now .
>>
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>> Bruce
>>
>>
>> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote:
>>
>> DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have
>> DJB> been accepted, since voting became the norm.
>>
>> DJB> Dave
>>
>> DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
>> DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs up.

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 MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per
 MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10
 MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their 
 kids.

 MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely
 MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking
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Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

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On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nice Dave, but what is the dark 8th photo?

Its the shadow from my largest Asian lile clump

> You afraid to show the marijuana plants. :-)

Yes.:-)

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Re: Geso Some flowers and birds whilst sitting in the back yard

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Thanks Cotty.

Dave

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 6:56 PM, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/7/08, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>http://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/sets/72157606071323461/
>>
>>Did a little more shooting of Asian lilies, tiger lilies and bluejays
>>in the back yard the last few days.
>>
>>Still having troubles with the red ones, but some red desaturation in
>>LR and bump up the oranges a bit,
>>seems to help.
>>
>>Anyway, hopefully a nice set of flowers etc to brighten up your day.
>>
>>K10D, some with DA F 50 and some with the Sigma 300 F4.
>>Some LR cropping and saturation on a few.
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Re: PESO: At the beach

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> 
> From: "Tim Øsleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> One part of me says
> it's crap, another says it is art.
> Most likely it is something  between.

Mark!


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Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/07/08 Tue PM 12:24:26 GMT
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Subject: Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "mike wilson"
> Subject: Re: Environmentally sensitive photo process
> 
> 
> >I read it that they project the negative (in 12hour bursts over a week) onto 
> >the substrate. 
> >How do they stop it from melting??
> >>
> 
> It's just light.
> My lawn gets well over 12 hours of light per day for several months of the 
> year.
> Do you guys not get sunlight in Scotland?
> No wonder you are such a dour lot.

We're not dour.  We just suffer from mental anguish a lot.  And other head 
trauma.
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Re: Suggestion for Pentax Photo Gallery

[AlunFoto]

I submitted about half of my currently accepted pics before the peer
voting started in September last year. The rest were submitted between
September and December. Since I've been out of the loop for 6 months I
don't know if things have changed now, but last year I saw no
significant difference in acceptance rate before and after peer voting
was introduced. But i DO think there was a change in what type of pics
are accepted. I think I bitched a lot about that... :-)

Jostein

2008/7/9 Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> No, 1-10 is my voting average.  Since having originally 53 in the
> gallery and starting over, I now have 5 in.  Not every single one has
> been re-submitted but, most have.  I'd say my acceptance rate is more
> like 1 in 30 now.  I attribute it to 2 major things.  One is the
> gallery is filled in - so the judges can be much pickier.  The other
> is peer voting.
>
> If I had to guess, anyone else with a large number from the early
> days would encounter similar experiences to mine...or maybe everyone
> is out to get me now .
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Bruce
>
>
> Wednesday, July 9, 2008, 4:23:09 AM, you wrote:
>
> DJB> If Bruce gets 1-10 and Godders get 0-30, no wonder none of mine have
> DJB> been accepted, since voting became the norm.
>
> DJB> Dave
>
> DJB> On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Bruce Dayton
> DJB> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> my average is about the same 1 in 10 gets a thumbs up.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>> Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 10:15:28 AM, you wrote:
>>>
>>> MR> They should start charging us (the Gallery participants) a dollar per
>>> MR> photo for uploads! Maybe five dollars...
>>>
>>> MR> No, I'm not serious (though I'd gladly pay it for the 1 or 2 photos per
>>> MR> month that I submit) but it would sure cut down on people uploading 10
>>> MR> nearly-identical vacation snapshots. Or flowers. Or shots of their kids.
>>>
>>> MR> I do find voting on submitted photos very educational and it definitely
>>> MR> helps my "eye", but the ratio of "thumbs up" to "thumbs down" is taking
>>> MR> a big turn for the worse. I used to average 1 in 5 yes votes. Now I
>>> MR> think it's below 1 in 10.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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