Pentax sighting: Milk

2008-11-28 Thread John Celio
I saw the film Milk today, about the slain '70s gay rights activist and 
first openly gay elected official in the US, Harvey Milk.  It was a really 
good film; I can't recommend it enough.


Milk opened a store called Castro Camera when he moved to San Francisco, so 
naturally there are a lot of cameras appearing in the film.  He used a 
little Nikon rangefinder early on, and Nikon SLRs showed up in the hands of 
press photographers quite a bit.  There was one supporting character, 
however, who used a Pentax Spotmatic.  I couldn't get a clear look at the 
exact model, though.  I think there may have been another Pentax in the 
movie somewhere, but I'll probably have to wait for the DVD release to look 
again.


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Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...

2008-11-28 Thread John Celio
I own the SMC 500 4.5 and use it on my K10D, so I checked out my lens to see 
why someone would need a K adaptor for it.  The site calls it f4.6, but if 
you look close at the photo it says f4.5.


The part of the lens that mounts to the camera is removable by unscrewing a 
collar just behind the focus meter.  It looks to me like the mount piece of 
the lens in question was either lost, damaged or was for a non-K camera (M42 
or maybe medium format, if those options were available), and the owner of 
the lens wasn't able to find a proper replacement.  The original part 
allowed for 52mm filters to be mounted internally, so that couldn't have 
been his only reason for making the custom part.  The original also allowed 
for the whole lens to be turned relative to the camera (see the knob near 
the back here: 
http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/lenses/primes/extreme-tele/K500f4.5.html), so his 
custom part is missing that feature.


I should note, that removable mount feature has almost cost me the lens a 
couple times.  Damn thing comes loose easily, and you'll be out shooting 
when suddenly you're holding the oddly light camera with one hand and have 
to scramble to catch the lens!


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What am I missing here?  My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my
K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to
 infinity.  Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF
Teleconverter behind the lens...


The front mount on that adapter looks very "different" and the
connection between the adapter looks odd.
I'd guess that this lens was modified for some other camera mount and,
after it changed hands a few times, someone had a custom adapter made to
make it fit a K-mount camera again.

Weird.

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2008 8:18:14 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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A nice site and an  excellent gallery.
Well done.
Paul

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist

A nice site and an excellent gallery.
Well done.
Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


Looking good, Marnie.  I had an enjoyable stroll through some of your
past PESOs and remember seeing many of them.

It also reminded me to take another look at other PDMLers web sites.

You might like to let Mark know about the new URL - the link on the
"PDML Members' Web Pages" section of his web site still points to the
defunct AOL address.



Cheers

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As stated previously, AOL got rid of its ftp  sites for members.  
Which

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I had to find a new place to put my photos.

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created a
new domain. (In case you are interested, www.freehostia.com, 9.95  
a  year

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a domain. No photo software is included, but they do have a good file
manager.)

I didn't redo them, just buffed them up a little -- breaking my   
photos

down
into smaller groups. There are about only two I haven't shown on   
list.


So most of you will have seen most of them, or all of them. Mainly   
I am

posting this...

...in case you bookmark member pages, here it  is.

http://www.mapphotography.com/

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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist

Thanks Marnie. And thanks to all who had a look.
Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 11/27/2008 5:24:56 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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A few pics of Grace  from today. All are with the K20D and the 540
flash with the  lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode
with the flash  handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet.
The first is  f4.5, 1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8,
1/30th and  33mm, the third is at f3.6, 1/45th and  34mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307673
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307675


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Cute,  as always. But the first looks more like Xmas.

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Re: PESO - Looking Outward for Inspiration?

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/27/2008 9:56:57 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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I rather like the  light in this  one:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/looking-for-inspiration.html

Comments  welcome.

cheers,
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Very, very nice, frank.  Naturally makes one add a story to the photo.

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Re: PESO -- Closed for the season.

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2008 1:18:24 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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Kind of a  whatsit?

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20closedfortheseason.html

Equipment:   Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0

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Interesting, Peter, but too much of a steep  side angle. So I don't know what 
I am looking at (though I suspect those things  open up. Some kind of market? 
Board walk concession booths? Heh.)

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Re: PESO -- Westerly Effect

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
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http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20westerlyeffect.html

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
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First photo of the new  grand daughter and her  parents.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834


Bill

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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/27/2008 5:24:56 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A few pics of Grace  from today. All are with the K20D and the 540  
flash with the  lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode  
with the flash  handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet.  
The first is  f4.5, 1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8,  
1/30th and  33mm, the third is at f3.6, 1/45th and  34mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307673
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307675


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Cute,  as always. But the first looks more like Xmas. 

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2008 5:41:28 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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Burls are often the  result of a tree limb falling off.  This tree may 
have been double  trunked which would produce a burl at that location, 
however I prefer to  believe that there's a man sized preying mantis 
waiting to come  out...

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RE: OT: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Bob W"

I've tidied up the front page of my website a little bit because I intend to
point there in the metadata in my photographs, for the sake of copyright
traceability and permission. It also makes it easy for me to add / remove
links from the page. There's nothing new on there.

I have tested it with a number of browsers on my PC, running XP SP3. My
normal browser at the moment is IE v8 beta, where it works fine. I've also
tested it on the following browsers on my PC, with comments about the
results:

Opera - very good but the numbers on Lightroom index pages are the wrong
colour
Firefox - OK
Safari - text is blotchy and lacks definition
Chrome - very good, fast
Amaya - rubbish. Layout is all over the place

and on IE6 at work (doesn't handle the CSS or logo properly).

I must say, I was very surprised that Amaya handled it so poorly.

Can other people have a quick look at the front page: 
http://www.web-options.com, 
and also at the page called Recent Photographs, and let me know if you get
any strangeness or oddities, please? 


Looks fine to me. I'm using Firefox v.3.0.4 on Windoze Vista Ultimate 
(version 6.0).


Couple of suggestions thought. I wouldn't leave your Admin login hanging 
right out there on the front page.


And it's helpful if there's a link back to the front page from any of 
the pages it calls. Just makes browsing easier.


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Re: PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Burls are often the result of a tree limb falling off.  This tree may 
have been double trunked which would produce a burl at that location, 
however I prefer to believe that there's a man sized preying mantis 
waiting to come out...


Joseph McAllister wrote:
I think what you have photographed there is a Burl, or Burr (GB). A 
gall is usually much smaller, and more organized.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl

(ya hafta have references to win an argument on PDML, and I went to 
prep school):-)


Joseph McAllister
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On Nov 28, 2008, at 15:17 , Beaker wrote:



On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:56 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, P. J. Alling 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Speaking of Oak Galls,  I took this a while ago, didn't think it 
was really
worth posting but  now all I have to say is I'd hate to meet the 
insect...


http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20alotofgall.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


That's scary looking!

cheers,
frank



Looks like the seed to a good halloween story...
I'll bet the wood of the gall will have some really interesting grain 
patterns, assuming

a wood worker gets to it before it before a fire.



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FS Friday: 1.7X Adapter

2008-11-28 Thread Jay Taylor
I selling  my used but good condition (7 of 10) Pentax A F1.7x  
adapter. This highly sought after lens accessory doesn't see much use  
from me any longer since I have obtained my super telephoto lens. I  
works wondors on the manual focus lenses giving them AF capability in  
additon to the 1.7x magnification. Matched with the sharp primes and  
zooms like the FA*300/4.5 or the FA* 80-200/2.8, it provides  
excellent image quality unexpected from that of a normal teleconverter.
The front element has a small mark in the SMC coating that does not  
affect image quality.


I'm also pondering selling several other FA* lenses including the  
FA*24/2, FA*300/4.5, FA 77/1.8 Ltd. & FA 43/1.9 -please drop me a  
note if interested in any of these.


Price is $269 plus shipped and Paypal'd to verified CONUS addresses.
Will ship to other locations at buyers expense.
Please send me email if interested.

[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/sirfishalot/image/106424589.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/sirfishalot/image/106424592.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/sirfishalot/image/106424593.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.pbase.com/sirfishalot/image/106424595.jpg[/IMG]

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:54:44 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
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Great work.  I really  like the jellyfish.  How did you do that?  
Aquarium?

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Monterey Bay Aquarium (probably one of  the best around.) Big tanks for jelly 
fish with big glass fronts. Before I went  I asked Bruce (Dayton) how to 
shoot them (since he'd done it already). Anyway, I  just used what he 
recommended 
and it worked great. Hmmm, looking at the exitfs  on the raws, flash off, 1/50 
at f 1.8. (I had a 50mm fast lens, which he  recommended I use. It goes down 
to 1.8. For that matter, I still have it.) Seems  I had the ISO on automatic, 
and it ranged from 100-400 approximately. 

I  really enjoyed shooting them. It was a memorable experience.

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:49:15 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Looking good,  Marnie.  I had an enjoyable stroll through some of your
past PESOs and  remember seeing many of them.

It also reminded me to take another look at  other PDMLers web sites.

You might like to let Mark know about the new  URL - the link on the
"PDML Members' Web Pages" section of his web site still  points to the
defunct AOL  address.



Cheers

Brian

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Good idea,  thanks, Brian.

(Since Mark is actually the only one I know for sure who  book marks sites. 
:-))

Thanks for looking.

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
Great work.  I really like the jellyfish.  How did you do that? 
Aquarium?

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2008 4:20 PM >>>

As stated previously, AOL got rid of its ftp  sites for members. Which
means 
I had to find a new place to put my photos.  

Since I "roll my own" pages and don't like advertisements, I just 
created a 
new domain. (In case you are interested, www.freehostia.com, 9.95 a 
year for 
a domain. No photo software is included, but they do have a good file 

manager.)

I didn't redo them, just buffed them up a little -- breaking my  photos
down 
into smaller groups. There are about only two I haven't shown on  list.


So most of you will have seen most of them, or all of them. Mainly  I
am 
posting this...

in case you bookmark member pages, here it  is.

http://www.mapphotography.com/ 

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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Brian Walters
Looking good, Marnie.  I had an enjoyable stroll through some of your
past PESOs and remember seeing many of them.

It also reminded me to take another look at other PDMLers web sites.

You might like to let Mark know about the new URL - the link on the
"PDML Members' Web Pages" section of his web site still points to the
defunct AOL address.



Cheers

Brian

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:20:02 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> As stated previously, AOL got rid of its ftp  sites for members. Which
> means 
> I had to find a new place to put my photos.  
> 
> Since I "roll my own" pages and don't like advertisements, I just 
> created a 
> new domain. (In case you are interested, www.freehostia.com, 9.95 a  year
> for 
> a domain. No photo software is included, but they do have a good file  
> manager.)
> 
> I didn't redo them, just buffed them up a little -- breaking my  photos
> down 
> into smaller groups. There are about only two I haven't shown on  list. 
> 
> So most of you will have seen most of them, or all of them. Mainly  I am 
> posting this...
> 
> ...in case you bookmark member pages, here it  is.
> 
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I saw the TV series but never heard the radio broadcast.  The series I
saw was shown on PBS and it used very primitive effects and was
delightful.

>>> John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2008 7:12 PM >>>


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Re: PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
I think what you have photographed there is a Burl, or Burr (GB). A  
gall is usually much smaller, and more organized.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galls

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burl

(ya hafta have references to win an argument on PDML, and I went to  
prep school):-)


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On Nov 28, 2008, at 15:17 , Beaker wrote:



On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:56 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:
Speaking of Oak Galls,  I took this a while ago, didn't think it  
was really
worth posting but  now all I have to say is I'd hate to meet the  
insect...


http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20alotofgall.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


That's scary looking!

cheers,
frank



Looks like the seed to a good halloween story...
I'll bet the wood of the gall will have some really interesting  
grain patterns, assuming

a wood worker gets to it before it before a fire.



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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread John Francis

Some of us listened to the original radio broadcasts,
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(And have the CDs, DVDs and MP3s - I've even got an MP3
of the *real* original episode on Magrathea, complete with
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> Wow, somebody read all the books :)
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Re: birds, and some more birds

2008-11-28 Thread Stan Halpin

Thanks Christine.

On Nov 27, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Stan:
Nice!
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857/h63f4e14#h63f4e14

Really great DOF and bokeh here.  Very nice.
http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857/h221aa2b1#h221aa2b1
This one was from last year. I went back and checked, it was done  
with the same 300/4.5 lens(which I referred to as a 300/4 lens in the  
original post which of course is wrong), using K10D. I recall I had  
my tripod that day, this might have been with tripod or with folded  
tripod (i.e., virtual monopod). Shot at f4.5, and what you see is  
uncropped.


I wonder if this one would look really cool in black and white?   
Just a thought.  Ignore if you think it's a wacky idea. :-) I like  
the swirlly-wirlly lines.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857/he063731#he063731
I may play with it. This by the way is a cropped section of an image.  
I am thinking that an uncropped or less cropped version (with some  
bare bushes in the foreground framing the feather) might actually be  
the better choice for black and white.


Also by the way... The "explosion" of geese in #14 is due to the  
raptor (golden eagle?) in #8 who decided to launch himself from his  
tree and do a straffing run over  the geese (#15). From anyplace  
within a mile or so it is easy to tell when an eagle or two are in  
the neighborhood, as the geese honking noise about doubles in decibel  
level, then the sound of thousands of wings digging for air, then the  
cloud of birds rises out of the water. And there are enough eagles  
around, bald and golden (?) that the explosion happens at least once  
an hour. Very dramatic. Not visible in #14, but in several of the  
images I have of this phenomenon, you can see a number of ducks  
quietly paddling along in the same area, ignoring all the fuss and  
minding their own business.


stan



Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - From: "Stan Halpin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:50 PM
Subject: GESO: birds, and some more birds


I have updated my Squaw Creek GESO folder - Squaw Creek is a  
National Wildlife Refuge set up primarily for migratory birds. At  
this time of  year the ducks have mostly gone through but the  
geese, particularly  snow geese are there in large numbers.  
Current population is 100,000 +  I went up a couple of weeks ago,  
then again this morning.


http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857

Or go to http://photos.stanhalpin.com then look inside the PDML- 
GESO folder for the Squaw Creek folder. All of today's (#7 onward)  
were  shot with K20D and a FA* 300/4, handheld.


stan

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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Merlin Who
Original question was (I have to quote):
"What do you get if you multiply six by nine?"

Merlin

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Ken Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>>> > You mean like  6 by 9?
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Re: PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread Beaker


On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:56 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, P. J. Alling  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Speaking of Oak Galls,  I took this a while ago, didn't think it  
was really
worth posting but  now all I have to say is I'd hate to meet the  
insect...


http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20alotofgall.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.


That's scary looking!

cheers,
frank



Looks like the seed to a good halloween story...
I'll bet the wood of the gall will have some really interesting grain  
patterns, assuming

a wood worker gets to it before it before a fire.

Cheers
Mike

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Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I wish it were because they were cowards, however terrorists who smash 
their organizations on hard targets, and most leaders are very hard 
targets these days, aren't very terrible.  However it's easy to rip 
through a population of unarmed civilians.  It doesn't take that much 
training and if you don;t plan to come back it takes even less.  All you 
need is élan.


frank theriault wrote:

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

I don't know how may PDMLers we have in India but Subash is certainly
one.

Foreigners seem to have been the main targets of todays' terrible events
in Mumbai but, as in all cases like this, locals invariably get caught
up in it.

Subash (and any others in India), I'm sure all of us hope you are all
safe and that calm will return soon.



Why is it that terrorists seem to target innocent civilians?  Why
don't they go after the leaders?

I guess the answer is that they're cowards.

My heart goes out the the victims and their families and friends, and
the people of Mumbai and India.  Hopefully this matter can be resolved
with a minimum of further bloodshed.

cheers,
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Re: GESO: birds, and some more birds

2008-11-28 Thread Stan Halpin

I believe it is a Golden Eagle -
 below via Google:

The golden eagle (Aquila chrysaetos) is a member of the Booted or  
True Eagles family. Golden eagles can be found throughout much of the  
northern hemisphere. It lives in mountainous areas, prairie coulees,  
and other places where rugged terrain creates abundant updrafts.


Size - Length of about 3 feet (.92m). Weighing up to 15 pounds (7kg),  
with a wing span of up to 7 feet (2m).


Color - Adults are brown with tawny on the back of the head and neck;  
tail faintly banded. Juveniles have white patches at base of  
primaries, white tail with a distinct dark terminal band. It takes  
four years to acquire adult plumage.

=

stan

On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:54 AM, Brendan MacRae wrote:


Good stuff, Stan.

The raptor in no. 7? What is it? Burly fellow...

-Brendan
--- Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have updated my Squaw Creek GESO folder - Squaw
Creek is a National
Wildlife Refuge set up primarily for migratory
birds. At this time of
year the ducks have mostly gone through but the
geese, particularly
snow geese are there in large numbers. Current
population is 100,000
+  I went up a couple of weeks ago, then again this
morning.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857

Or go to http://photos.stanhalpin.com then look
inside the PDML-GESO
folder for the Squaw Creek folder. All of today's
(#7 onward) were
shot with K20D and a FA* 300/4, handheld.

stan

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Re: PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 4:46 PM, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking of Oak Galls,  I took this a while ago, didn't think it was really
> worth posting but  now all I have to say is I'd hate to meet the insect...
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20alotofgall.html
>
> Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6
>
> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

That's scary looking!

cheers,
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PESO -- A lot of Gall

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
Speaking of Oak Galls,  I took this a while ago, didn't think it was 
really worth posting but  now all I have to say is I'd hate to meet the 
insect...


http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20alotofgall.html

Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 28-200 f3.8~5.6

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Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...

2008-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts

What am I missing here?  My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my
K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to
 infinity.  Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF
Teleconverter behind the lens...


The front mount on that adapter looks very "different" and the 
connection between the adapter looks odd.
I'd guess that this lens was modified for some other camera mount and, 
after it changed hands a few times, someone had a custom adapter made to 
make it fit a K-mount camera again.


Weird.

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Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
I've noticed the "stains" are more pronounced & detailed when the occur on 
new concrete. I've also seen stains caused by many different types of 
leaves. Most go away in a few days/weeks.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: "mike wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories






From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/27 Thu PM 01:45:43 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

I believe that the leaves are from  sycamore tree. Other leaves don't
seem to leave such a distinct impression.
Paul


This seems to be the best answer I can find online.
http://biojournalism.com/95-leaf-shadows-stained-concrete.html


On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:

>
>>
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
>>
>> They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins.
>> That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away.
>
> What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble,
> to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but
> then they are not washed away from there.  Very, very intriquing.
> The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow
> being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal.  Plant
> waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many
> polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from
> the surface of leaves.
>
>>
>> mike wilson wrote:
 From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
 Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

 Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere
 other
 than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got
 around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar
 Series 1
 90/2.5 at f4.

>>>
>>> Do you know what sort of tree it is?  It looks as if there is some
>>> residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression.
>>>
>>>
 On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


> In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Last year, I noticed a  strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It
> seemed that on one short  stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves
> would
> leave an image that  lasted for months after the leaves had blown
> away.
> On adjacent  surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed
> that only
> one type of  leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see
> that
> they endured  for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing.
> This
> year the  process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some
> of
> these  "autumn  memories."
> Paul
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138
>
> ==
> Way  cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down).
> Easier
> to see
> what they  are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around
> here.
>
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Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I didn't say it was the best recipe, just that it was an old recipe 
using the tannins from the leaves. 


mike wilson wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/28 Fri PM 02:25:58 GMT
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Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

I believe that I cited Tannins as a possible cause, and I mentioned Oak 
leaves as a source, (possibly incorrectly), due to their heavy 
concentration of tannins.  I've actually tried to make iron gall ink 
using oak leaves as a source based on an old recipe, with indifferent 
results.  "Experts" would do well to look at literature published in the 
1800's sometimes it has answers to questions they haven't bothered to 
ask, and a lot of this stuff will never be on line.



AFAIK, ink is best made from galls, ie, the growths made by the tree in 
response to an insect laying its egg in the plant's tissue.  Some are 
spherical, others have more complex shapes.

  

mike wilson wrote:


From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/27 Thu PM 01:45:43 GMT
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Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

I believe that the leaves are from  sycamore tree. Other leaves don't  
seem to leave such a distinct impression.

Paul



This seems to be the best answer I can find online.
http://biojournalism.com/95-leaf-shadows-stained-concrete.html

  
  

On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:




From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins.
That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away.


What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble,  
to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but  
then they are not washed away from there.  Very, very intriquing.   
The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow  
being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal.  Plant  
waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many  
polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from  
the surface of leaves.


  
  

mike wilson wrote:



From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere  
other

than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got
around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar  
Series 1

90/2.5 at f4.



Do you know what sort of tree it is?  It looks as if there is some  
residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression.



  
  

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In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Last year, I noticed a  strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It
seemed that on one short  stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves  
would

leave an image that  lasted for months after the leaves had blown
away.
On adjacent  surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed  
that only
one type of  leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see  
that

they endured  for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing.
This
year the  process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some  
of

these  "autumn  memories."
Paul

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138

==
Way  cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down).  
Easier

to see
what they  are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around  
here.


Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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Re: PESO -- Westerly Effect

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Great light, nice subject, but the branches' merge with the background 
really hurts. A lower perspective is called for.


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Subject: PESO -- Westerly Effect



http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20westerlyeffect.html

Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0.

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PESO: Buzz Buzz

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
I don't think this totally, works, but what the  hey.

In the Paranoia series, and probably subtitled Scaredy Cat. ;-) Also  lets me 
"break in" my new  pages/site.

http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/buzz.htm

Comments  welcome.

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My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Eactivist
As stated previously, AOL got rid of its ftp  sites for members. Which means 
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Since I "roll my own" pages and don't like advertisements, I just  created a 
new domain. (In case you are interested, www.freehostia.com, 9.95 a  year for 
a domain. No photo software is included, but they do have a good file  
manager.)

I didn't redo them, just buffed them up a little -- breaking my  photos down 
into smaller groups. There are about only two I haven't shown on  list. 

So most of you will have seen most of them, or all of them. Mainly  I am 
posting this...

...in case you bookmark member pages, here it  is.

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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller

Congrats Bill !
Hope both are doing well.

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From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: I'm a grandad



My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
what would have been my mother's 90th.

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Re: OT: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/28 Fri AM 01:08:34 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: OT: Browser & font questions
> 
> I've tidied up the front page of my website a little bit because I intend to
> point there in the metadata in my photographs, for the sake of copyright
> traceability and permission. It also makes it easy for me to add / remove
> links from the page. There's nothing new on there.
> 
> I have tested it with a number of browsers on my PC, running XP SP3. My
> normal browser at the moment is IE v8 beta, where it works fine. I've also
> tested it on the following browsers on my PC, with comments about the
> results:
> 
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> colour
> Firefox - OK
> Safari - text is blotchy and lacks definition
> Chrome - very good, fast
> Amaya - rubbish. Layout is all over the place
> 
> and on IE6 at work (doesn't handle the CSS or logo properly).

Netscape 7.2 (FWIW.) it seems to present as you want it.  No colour 
differentiation between the logo background and the page, on either the home or 
subsequent pages.  Link on the home page from logo is to email, on sub pages is 
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller

Isn't 6 by 9 = . ?

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Subject: RE: # of PDML Subscribers?





On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, "Merlin Who" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> You mean like  6 by 9?
> 
> Merlin




That's 54, isn't it?  Not the same thing at all...



it's 42 in some numbering systems.



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Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller

my big concern is  all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter.


 You mean you'd hold the combo by the camera body? Doesn't the lens have 
a tripod collar?


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- Original Message - 
From: "Walter Hamler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: Custom Machinist doing gods work...



Jim, I think that the 500mm that was modified was a screw mount lens.
I know the one that I saw locally for sale is, and my big concern is
all that weight hanging on a flimsy M-42 adapter.

Walt


What am I missing here?  My Pentax K500/4.5 mounts just fine on both my
K1000 film body and my K20D digital body, with no problem in focusing to
 infinity.  Of course, focusing is manual unless I use my F1.7x AF
Teleconverter behind the lens...



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Re: Pentax Quality Control Strikes Again

2008-11-28 Thread jtainter
Re: Frozen DA* 50-135.

Thanks, everyone, for suggestions and condolences.

Nothing worked. It's locked up, on and off camera. I fiddled with the AF/MF 
switch, cleaned contacts, mounted and dismounted it.

I head home Sunday, then it goes to Pentax.

Joe



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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist
Thanks David. I used the Lightsphere for all of them, but the flash  
was off camera for the third one as well as for that fourth shot that  
I posted this morning.

On Nov 28, 2008, at 2:09 PM, David J Brooks wrote:


All three are great Paul.

The last one, with th elight sphere, really is well lit.

Dave

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:18 PM, PN Stenquist  
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A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D and the 540  
flash with
the lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode with the  
flash
handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet. The first is  
f4.5,
1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8, 1/30th and 33mm,  
the third

is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.

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Multiple posts

2008-11-28 Thread Ken Waller
Am I the only one getting multiple posts? I'm often getting two or three 
copies of a single post. Not consistent but it has been occurring for me the 
last several days.


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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist
Thanks Jack. Yes, I shot with the DA* 16-50/2.8. I'm surprised at how  
sharp it is wide open. That makes for a nice portrait lens.

Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


Actually, I meant DA*16~50 f/2.8. (fumble tongue)

Jack


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From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 9:06 AM
For whatever reason (likely my inattentiveness) I don't
seem to be receiving some initial posts.(?)
These are three precious shots. #2 is a different look than
I remember seeing in the past. Different, but equally
seriously cute.
DA*11~60 f/2.8?
Jack


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From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"



Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:10 PM
Sweet, sweet, and sweet.  But I like the 2nd best!

Cheers,

Christine


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Subject: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving



A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the

K20D

and the 540  flash with the lightsphere. The third one

is in

wireless flash mode  with the flash handheld off to

the

right of camera a couple of feet.  The first is f4.5,

1/45th

and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8,  1/30th and

33mm,

the third is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.






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Re: OT: Mumbi Terrorism

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Brian Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know how may PDMLers we have in India but Subash is certainly
> one.
>
> Foreigners seem to have been the main targets of todays' terrible events
> in Mumbai but, as in all cases like this, locals invariably get caught
> up in it.
>
> Subash (and any others in India), I'm sure all of us hope you are all
> safe and that calm will return soon.

Why is it that terrorists seem to target innocent civilians?  Why
don't they go after the leaders?

I guess the answer is that they're cowards.

My heart goes out the the victims and their families and friends, and
the people of Mumbai and India.  Hopefully this matter can be resolved
with a minimum of further bloodshed.

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Merlin Who
Again, congratulattions... and great photo as well.

Merlin

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> First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Merlin Who
Wow, somebody read all the books :)

Merlin

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> No, he meant 6x9.  The universe is perverse in that way, as least if you
> play Scrabble. ;-)
>
 Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2008 4:42 AM >>>
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> I believe he meant to say 6 x 7  i.e.: 42
>
> Not only the answer to everything, but Pentax's chosen large medium
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>
> Joseph McAllister
> Lots of gear, not much time
>
> On Nov 27, 2008, at 19:31 , Brian Walters wrote:
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>>
>> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, "Merlin Who"
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>>> You mean like  6 by 9?
>>>
>>> Merlin
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>> That's 54, isn't it?  Not the same thing at all...
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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread Merlin Who
Congratulations to all of you!

Merlin

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> My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
> Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread David J Brooks
Looks great Bill

Congratulations

Dave

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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread David J Brooks
All three are great Paul.

The last one, with th elight sphere, really is well lit.

Dave

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> A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D and the 540 flash with
> the lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode with the flash
> handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet. The first is f4.5,
> 1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8, 1/30th and 33mm, the third
> is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.
>
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Re: PESO - All That Jazz

2008-11-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Nov 28, 2008, at 9:57 AM, frank theriault wrote:

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:
Hah! Just bought a Bill Evans compendium recording the other day.  
Wonderful

stuff. :-)


Bill Evans is one of my favourite jazz players.

Quite the tragic figure (I think he died at 51 after decades of drug
abuse - mostly heroin then coke IIRC), he was to my mind one of the
most influential musicians of the 20th century.  Along with Keith
Jarrett and Herbie Hancock, he's in my Triumvirate of Piano Gods - a
purely subjective opinion, I understand, as there are pretty good
arguments that people like Bud Powell, Errol Garner, Fats Waller and
Thelonious Monk and many others might well be in there.  But, whoever
else is on the list, Bill Evans deserves to be there.

Enjoy your compendium - you're right, it ~is~ wonderful stuff!


I have Monk, Waller and Garner too.

Keith Jarrett ... omigod ... "The Koln Concert" has been a constant  
favorite of mine since the early 1980s. Just Superb.


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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to all for the kind remarks about the photo.  However, it was
> taken by someone at the hospital and forwarded to me by the new
> mother.  I hope to get some photos myself when they return home friom
> the hospital,

It's still a good photograph.

;-)

cheers,
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Fwd: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Bill Owens
Thanks to all for the kind remarks about the photo.  However, it was
taken by someone at the hospital and forwarded to me by the new
mother.  I hope to get some photos myself when they return home friom
the hospital,

Bill


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Subject: Re: Addison Elizabeth
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On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
>

That wonderful photo will be treasured for many many years to come.

Thanks for sharing, and again, congrats to everyone.  Glad to see that
everyone's happy and healthy!

cheers,
frank


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Fw: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Actually, I meant DA*16~50 f/2.8. (fumble tongue)

Jack


--- On Fri, 11/28/08, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 9:06 AM
> For whatever reason (likely my inattentiveness) I don't
> seem to be receiving some initial posts.(?)
> These are three precious shots. #2 is a different look than
> I remember seeing in the past. Different, but equally
> seriously cute.
> DA*11~60 f/2.8?
> Jack
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, Christine Aguila
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> > Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:10 PM
> > Sweet, sweet, and sweet.  But I like the 2nd best! 
> Cheers,
> > Christine
> > 
> > 
> > - Original Message - From: "PN
> Stenquist"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> > 
> > Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:18 PM
> > Subject: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
> > 
> > 
> > > A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the
> K20D
> > and the 540  flash with the lightsphere. The third one
> is in
> > wireless flash mode  with the flash handheld off to
> the
> > right of camera a couple of feet.  The first is f4.5,
> 1/45th
> > and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8,  1/30th and
> 33mm,
> > the third is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.
> > > 
> > >
> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
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> > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307675
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Joseph McAllister

Aha!

I knew there was SOMETHING perverse going on here.

The PDML number has now risen to 116, today.

Joseph McAllister
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On Nov 28, 2008, at 06:26 , Steve Desjardins wrote:

No, he meant 6x9.  The universe is perverse in that way, as least if  
you

play Scrabble. ;-)


Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2008 4:42 AM >>>


I believe he meant to say 6 x 7  i.e.: 42

Not only the answer to everything, but Pentax's chosen large medium
format. What a tribute!

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Nov 27, 2008, at 19:31 , Brian Walters wrote:



On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, "Merlin Who"

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You mean like  6 by 9?

Merlin




That's 54, isn't it?  Not the same thing at all...



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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
>

That wonderful photo will be treasured for many many years to come.

Thanks for sharing, and again, congrats to everyone.  Glad to see that
everyone's happy and healthy!

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Lasse Karlsson

Hi Bill,

Congratulations, both to you, the parents and Addison Elizabeth!

That's a great picture.

Here's to a long and happy life for the newborn. 


Lasse

From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:56 PM
Subject: Addison Elizabeth



First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834

Bill


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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
> Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
> what would have been my mother's 90th.

Congrats, Bill!!

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Re: PESO - All That Jazz

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hah! Just bought a Bill Evans compendium recording the other day. Wonderful
> stuff. :-)

Bill Evans is one of my favourite jazz players.

Quite the tragic figure (I think he died at 51 after decades of drug
abuse - mostly heroin then coke IIRC), he was to my mind one of the
most influential musicians of the 20th century.  Along with Keith
Jarrett and Herbie Hancock, he's in my Triumvirate of Piano Gods - a
purely subjective opinion, I understand, as there are pretty good
arguments that people like Bud Powell, Errol Garner, Fats Waller and
Thelonious Monk and many others might well be in there.  But, whoever
else is on the list, Bill Evans deserves to be there.

Enjoy your compendium - you're right, it ~is~ wonderful stuff!

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
And she even has hair!!!
Mazeltov!  Bob S.

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>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
>
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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Yes, I like that very much.
I think it has lots of potential for portrait work.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 10:57 AM, PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Bob. Yes, we had a very nice day. And we'll do a rerun of
> Thanksgiving dinner tonight. It's always better the second day:-).
>
> I'm experimenting with wireless flash, held in hand. Some nice effects are
> possible, and I want to employ it in candid wedding photography. Here's an
> example where it worked fairly well. The flash with lightsphere mounted is
> held off to the right of camera as far as I could reach, while I shot with
> my left hand. Unfortunately, I blew the framing, but the shot illustrates
> one nice off-camera lighting possibility:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=833
> Paul
> On Nov 28, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>> Grace is charming as usual.
>> Flash worked well with that lightsphere.
>> I've got to try some off camera flash.
>> Hope you and your family had a great turkey day.
>> Regards,  Bob S.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM, PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D and the 540 flash
>>> with
>>> the lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode with the flash
>>> handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet. The first is f4.5,
>>> 1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8, 1/30th and 33mm, the
>>> third
>>> is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307673
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307675
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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:10 AM, Christine  Aguila
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sweet, sweet, and sweet.  But I like the 2nd best!  Cheers, Christine

I agree with Christine!

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Re: PESO -- Westerly Effect

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Rick Womer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting tree, nice composition, beautiful light.

What he said.

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Jack Davis

What a terrific catch..beaming parents and all!

Jack


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> From: Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Addison Elizabeth
> To: "pdml" 
> Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 8:56 AM
> First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834
> 
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Re: PESO -- Westerly Effect

2008-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Aptly titled well seen shot. Like it!

Jack


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> Subject: PESO -- Westerly Effect
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20westerlyeffect.html
> 
> Equipment: Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0.
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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
For whatever reason (likely my inattentiveness) I don't seem to be receiving 
some initial posts.(?)
These are three precious shots. #2 is a different look than I remember seeing 
in the past. Different, but equally seriously cute.
DA*11~60 f/2.8?
Jack


--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 9:10 PM
> Sweet, sweet, and sweet.  But I like the 2nd best!  Cheers,
> Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "PN Stenquist"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List"
> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 7:18 PM
> Subject: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving
> 
> 
> > A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D
> and the 540  flash with the lightsphere. The third one is in
> wireless flash mode  with the flash handheld off to the
> right of camera a couple of feet.  The first is f4.5, 1/45th
> and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8,  1/30th and 33mm,
> the third is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.
> > 
> >
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
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Re: PESO - All That Jazz

2008-11-28 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hah! Just bought a Bill Evans compendium recording the other day.  
Wonderful stuff. :-)


G

On Nov 28, 2008, at 8:07 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Fooling around with the A 50mm f1.7 the other night:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/all-that-jazz.html



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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist

Wonderful moment. Wonderful photo. Well done, sir.
Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 11:56 AM, Bill Owens wrote:


First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834


Bill

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Re: Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts

Bill Owens wrote:

First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834


What took you so long?
;-)


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Re: PESO - All That Jazz

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist

Now that's narrow DOF! Interesting.
Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 11:07 AM, frank theriault wrote:


Fooling around with the A 50mm f1.7 the other night:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/all-that-jazz.html

cheers,
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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist
Thanks Bob. Yes, we had a very nice day. And we'll do a rerun of  
Thanksgiving dinner tonight. It's always better the second day:-).


I'm experimenting with wireless flash, held in hand. Some nice effects  
are possible, and I want to employ it in candid wedding photography.  
Here's an example where it worked fairly well. The flash with  
lightsphere mounted is held off to the right of camera as far as I  
could reach, while I shot with my left hand. Unfortunately, I blew the  
framing, but the shot illustrates one nice off-camera lighting  
possibility:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=833
Paul
On Nov 28, 2008, at 11:12 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Paul,
Grace is charming as usual.
Flash worked well with that lightsphere.
I've got to try some off camera flash.
Hope you and your family had a great turkey day.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM, PN Stenquist  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D and the 540  
flash with
the lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode with the  
flash
handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet. The first is  
f4.5,
1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8, 1/30th and 33mm,  
the third

is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307671&size=lg
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307673
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8307675

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Addison Elizabeth

2008-11-28 Thread Bill Owens
First photo of the new grand daughter and her parents.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=834


Bill

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

2008-11-28 Thread Jack Davis
Orrr a nerly epty bbonon glaath. (hic>

Jack


--- On Thu, 11/27/08, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 8:54 PM
> Yepth, itph is impolith to tak witph tphe full moutph... :-)
> 
> Happy Holidays, everyone.
> 
> Boris.
> 
> P.S. No turkeys were harmed during production of the first
> sentence of this message ;-)
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> > G'morning all, Because I was taught from an early
> age, it's impolite
> > to type with my mouth full, let me extend a sincere
> wish that your
> > day be filled with nature's bounty and,
> especially, true friends and
> > loving family(ies).
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> > Best,
> > 
> > Jack
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PDML Holiday Shopping (redux)

2008-11-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Sent this yesterday and it hasn't shown up in my mailbox or the archives 
yet, so...)


I've just done some minor updates to the PDML CureSearch shop. All fine 
products that make excellent gifts and all profits get donated to the 
National Childhood Cancer Foundation/Children's Oncology Group.


These gifts will make the giver, the recipient and some kids with cancer 
feel good.


http://www.cafepress.com/robertstech


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Re: PESOs: Grace Does Thanksgiving

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Grace is charming as usual.
Flash worked well with that lightsphere.
I've got to try some off camera flash.
Hope you and your family had a great turkey day.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:18 PM, PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few pics of Grace from today. All are with the K20D and the 540 flash with
> the lightsphere. The third one is in wireless flash mode with the flash
> handheld off to the right of camera a couple of feet. The first is f4.5,
> 1/45th and 29mm, the second is wide open at f2.8, 1/30th and 33mm, the third
> is at f3.6, 1/45th and 34mm.
>
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PESO - All That Jazz

2008-11-28 Thread frank theriault
Fooling around with the A 50mm f1.7 the other night:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/all-that-jazz.html

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Re: Shots of dancers, upcoming article

2008-11-28 Thread Brendan MacRae
Thanks, Bob. That was the idea. Of course, I still
have to get my model releases signed since I forgot to
last week!

-Brendan
--- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Brendan,
> Very nice job!
> I especially liked seeing the faces fo the girls as
> part of the story.
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Derby Chang
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brendan MacRae wrote:
> >>
> >> This is a series for a magazine article about
> Myrna
> >> Galle, a local dance teacher. Myrna is a former
> >> soloist of the NYC Ballet and was a member of the
> >> Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo. She also coregraphed
> many
> >> Broadway shows and was the lead dancer in the
> touring
> >> show of "The Music Man." Currently she teaches
> ballet
> >> at the Grass Valley Center for the Arts.
> >> I went down last Friday and photographed Myrna
> and the
> >> dancers in two separate classes. It was a
> challenge
> >> but it was a lot of fun. I had gone out the
> Friday
> >> before to scout the location and see what I was
> up
> >> against. Too high a ceiling in the first studio
> made
> >> wireless flash with umbrellas the best solution
> (pink
> >> walls weren't much help for bounce flash). A
> entire
> >> wall of mirrors in both studios allowed for
> shooting
> >> the dancers from their reflections, but keeping
> myself
> >> out of the shot when shooting toward the mirrors
> was
> >> tricky. This was easier in the second studio with
> a
> >> lower, white ceiling so I could use a camera
> mounted
> >> flash pointed up and backwards.
> >>
> >> K20, K10, (2x) 540 flashes + boosters, two stands
> with
> >> umbrellas, DA* 16-50, DA 10-17, A85 1.4, FA 31
> ltd.
> >>
> >>
> http://www.primelensphoto.com/the_dancers/index.html
> >>
> >> I'm still futzing with these selects and editing
> them.
> >>
> >> -Brendan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > More than a few lovely shots in there Brendan.
> Cool gig, I'm envious.
> >
> > Derby
> >
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Re: GESO: birds, and some more birds

2008-11-28 Thread Brendan MacRae
Good stuff, Stan.

The raptor in no. 7? What is it? Burly fellow...

-Brendan
--- Stan Halpin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have updated my Squaw Creek GESO folder - Squaw
> Creek is a National  
> Wildlife Refuge set up primarily for migratory
> birds. At this time of  
> year the ducks have mostly gone through but the
> geese, particularly  
> snow geese are there in large numbers. Current
> population is 100,000 
> +  I went up a couple of weeks ago, then again this
> morning.
> 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p47799857
> 
> Or go to http://photos.stanhalpin.com then look
> inside the PDML-GESO  
> folder for the Squaw Creek folder. All of today's
> (#7 onward) were  
> shot with K20D and a FA* 300/4, handheld.
> 
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Re: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

2008-11-28 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/28 Fri PM 02:25:58 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
> 
> I believe that I cited Tannins as a possible cause, and I mentioned Oak 
> leaves as a source, (possibly incorrectly), due to their heavy 
> concentration of tannins.  I've actually tried to make iron gall ink 
> using oak leaves as a source based on an old recipe, with indifferent 
> results.  "Experts" would do well to look at literature published in the 
> 1800's sometimes it has answers to questions they haven't bothered to 
> ask, and a lot of this stuff will never be on line.

AFAIK, ink is best made from galls, ie, the growths made by the tree in 
response to an insect laying its egg in the plant's tissue.  Some are 
spherical, others have more complex shapes.

> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2008/11/27 Thu PM 01:45:43 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
> >>
> >> I believe that the leaves are from  sycamore tree. Other leaves don't  
> >> seem to leave such a distinct impression.
> >> Paul
> >> 
> >
> > This seems to be the best answer I can find online.
> > http://biojournalism.com/95-leaf-shadows-stained-concrete.html
> >
> >   
> >> On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >>
> >> 
>  From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT
>  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>  Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
> 
>  They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins.
>  That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away.
>  
> >>> What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble,  
> >>> to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but  
> >>> then they are not washed away from there.  Very, very intriquing.   
> >>> The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow  
> >>> being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal.  Plant  
> >>> waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many  
> >>> polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from  
> >>> the surface of leaves.
> >>>
> >>>   
>  mike wilson wrote:
>  
> >> From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories
> >>
> >> Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere  
> >> other
> >> than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got
> >> around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar  
> >> Series 1
> >> 90/2.5 at f4.
> >>
> >> 
> > Do you know what sort of tree it is?  It looks as if there is some  
> > residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression.
> >
> >
> >   
> >> On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>> In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >>> Last year, I noticed a  strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It
> >>> seemed that on one short  stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves  
> >>> would
> >>> leave an image that  lasted for months after the leaves had blown
> >>> away.
> >>> On adjacent  surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed  
> >>> that only
> >>> one type of  leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see  
> >>> that
> >>> they endured  for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing.
> >>> This
> >>> year the  process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some  
> >>> of
> >>> these  "autumn  memories."
> >>> Paul
> >>>
> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138
> >>>
> >>> ==
> >>> Way  cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down).  
> >>> Easier
> >>> to see
> >>> what they  are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around  
> >>> here.
> >>>
> >>> Marnie aka Doe  :-)
> >>>
> >>> -
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> >>>
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> >>> networks,
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Re: Shots of dancers, upcoming article

2008-11-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brendan,
Very nice job!
I especially liked seeing the faces fo the girls as part of the story.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:40 AM, Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Brendan MacRae wrote:
>>
>> This is a series for a magazine article about Myrna
>> Galle, a local dance teacher. Myrna is a former
>> soloist of the NYC Ballet and was a member of the
>> Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo. She also coregraphed many
>> Broadway shows and was the lead dancer in the touring
>> show of "The Music Man." Currently she teaches ballet
>> at the Grass Valley Center for the Arts.
>> I went down last Friday and photographed Myrna and the
>> dancers in two separate classes. It was a challenge
>> but it was a lot of fun. I had gone out the Friday
>> before to scout the location and see what I was up
>> against. Too high a ceiling in the first studio made
>> wireless flash with umbrellas the best solution (pink
>> walls weren't much help for bounce flash). A entire
>> wall of mirrors in both studios allowed for shooting
>> the dancers from their reflections, but keeping myself
>> out of the shot when shooting toward the mirrors was
>> tricky. This was easier in the second studio with a
>> lower, white ceiling so I could use a camera mounted
>> flash pointed up and backwards.
>>
>> K20, K10, (2x) 540 flashes + boosters, two stands with
>> umbrellas, DA* 16-50, DA 10-17, A85 1.4, FA 31 ltd.
>>
>> http://www.primelensphoto.com/the_dancers/index.html
>>
>> I'm still futzing with these selects and editing them.
>>
>> -Brendan
>>
>>
>>
>
> More than a few lovely shots in there Brendan. Cool gig, I'm envious.
>
> Derby
>
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Re: Shots of dancers, upcoming article

2008-11-28 Thread Brendan MacRae

--- Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
> 
> More than a few lovely shots in there Brendan. Cool
> gig, I'm envious.
> 
> Derby
> 
> 

Thanks, Derby. The young ladies were a bit camera shy
but they were all charming.

-Brendan


  

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Re: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread Christine Aguila

Well I looked again, & it is light grey, but a very white light grey.


- Original Message - 
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Thanks. I hate white text too - it's supposed to be light grey. If it's
showing up as white I'll change it after the weekend (going away shortly).

Bob


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Bob:  It works fine on IE 7, which is what I use.  Layout
looks fine, nice
pic, links work fine.   Not keen on white text though.  Find
it really hard
to read because of aging eye sight.  In fact, I'm thinking of
boycotting web
sites that use white text :-).  Other than that, site looks
nice.  Cheers,
Christine


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Subject: OT: Browser & font questions


> I've tidied up the front page of my website a little bit
because I intend
> to
> point there in the metadata in my photographs, for the sake
of copyright
> traceability and permission. It also makes it easy for me
to add / remove
> links from the page. There's nothing new on there.
>
> I have tested it with a number of browsers on my PC,
running XP SP3. My
> normal browser at the moment is IE v8 beta, where it works
fine. I've also
> tested it on the following browsers on my PC, with comments
about the
> results:
>
> Opera - very good but the numbers on Lightroom index pages
are the wrong
> colour
> Firefox - OK
> Safari - text is blotchy and lacks definition
> Chrome - very good, fast
> Amaya - rubbish. Layout is all over the place
>
> and on IE6 at work (doesn't handle the CSS or logo properly).
>
> I must say, I was very surprised that Amaya handled it so poorly.
>
> Can other people have a quick look at the front page:
> http://www.web-options.com,
> and also at the page called Recent Photographs, and let me
know if you get
> any strangeness or oddities, please?
>
> Next question: the logo. I used the font to create an
'identity plate' in
> Adobe Lightroom, which saves it as a .png file. But since
then I have
> reinstalled the operating system and other software on my
box, and seem to
> have lost that font. Does anyone know what it's called and
where I can
> find
> it, please?
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread Christine Aguila

Congrats, Bill. Best wish to everyone.  Cheers, Christine



On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Bill Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
what would have been my mother's 90th.

Bill




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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
Congratulations. All the bestto your sone and daughter-in-law (and the
new arrival, of course).

Steven Desjardins
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Washington and Lee University
Lexington, VA 24450
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>>> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/27/2008 8:40 PM >>>

My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
what would have been my mother's 90th.

Bill

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Re: OT - Canadian Meteor

2008-11-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep.  We used  to sit window side deep pic right.  We'd drink & write 
postcards & sign them with our regional travel names, which on this trip 
were Reginald & Daphanie.  We had to go to Iowa once, we used Hezekiah & 
Amana for that trip.



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This "Museum Tavern"?
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Cz3bfbXJzfkOoNf1Ju6SDQ

regards, Anthony


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I don't mind the warm ales & such.  I quite liked the beer/ale etc when I
was last in London. My husband drank Directors when last there--I

Guinness.

We did a lot of drinking at the Museum Tavern at end of a long day of
sight-seeing.  I have fond memories of the Russell Square area. Cheers,
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FS Friday (Cokin A filters)

2008-11-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I have decided to pass yet another clean up round on my photo gear 
cabinet. So here goes:


2 x Cokin A filter holders with sliding cover  - $10 each
55 mm adapter ring - $5
2 x 62 mm adapter ring - $5 each

A125 colored gradual filter - $5
A021, A027 - blue (80B), warm (81B) - $5 each
A092, A830 - dreams 2 and soft - $7 each
A164 - circular polarizer - $15

Also regular (round, not Cokin-A) Cokin 58 mm circular polarizer - $10

All filters are in excellent condition although of course used.

As usual I accept PayPal and ship from Israel.

Buyer pays the shipping price.

If you're interested let me know off-list.

Thanks.

Boris

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Comment on Westerly Effect was [Re: PESO -- Closed for the season.]

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling



Perhaps would have been slightly better with a lower viewpoint to get
the bottom branch above the background foliage.


Perhaps you're right.  The shot was a relatively fast grab, the light 
was fading the temperature was "cold" there aren't words for how cold 
and miserable it was with a stiff wind blowing off the sea behind me, 
but the dog really wanted to get back into the car, and that never 
happens.  Just one exposed frame, and off to shoot what I was actually 
there for which turned out to be ultimately disappointing.


Brian Walters wrote:

This, of course, should have been a comment on 'Westerly Effect"

I knew I shouldn't have had that extra glass of red with dinner..



Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/


On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:26:01 +1100, "Brian Walters"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
  

Great light - interesting shape to the tree.  Very photogenic.

Perhaps would have been slightly better with a lower viewpoint to get
the bottom branch above the background foliage.



Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/




On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:54:21 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


Kind of a whatsit?

http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20closedfortheseason.html

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Re: PESO -- Westerly Effect

2008-11-28 Thread Rick Womer
Interesting tree, nice composition, beautiful light.

Rick

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Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

2008-11-28 Thread P. J. Alling
I believe that I cited Tannins as a possible cause, and I mentioned Oak 
leaves as a source, (possibly incorrectly), due to their heavy 
concentration of tannins.  I've actually tried to make iron gall ink 
using oak leaves as a source based on an old recipe, with indifferent 
results.  "Experts" would do well to look at literature published in the 
1800's sometimes it has answers to questions they haven't bothered to 
ask, and a lot of this stuff will never be on line.


mike wilson wrote:

From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/27 Thu PM 01:45:43 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

I believe that the leaves are from  sycamore tree. Other leaves don't  
seem to leave such a distinct impression.

Paul



This seems to be the best answer I can find online.
http://biojournalism.com/95-leaf-shadows-stained-concrete.html

  

On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:



From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins.
That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away.

What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble,  
to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but  
then they are not washed away from there.  Very, very intriquing.   
The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow  
being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal.  Plant  
waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many  
polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from  
the surface of leaves.


  

mike wilson wrote:


From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere  
other

than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got
around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar  
Series 1

90/2.5 at f4.


Do you know what sort of tree it is?  It looks as if there is some  
residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression.



  

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In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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Last year, I noticed a  strange phenomenon on my morning runs. It
seemed that on one short  stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves  
would

leave an image that  lasted for months after the leaves had blown
away.
On adjacent  surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed  
that only
one type of  leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see  
that

they endured  for months, through rain, snow, salting and plowing.
This
year the  process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some  
of

these  "autumn  memories."
Paul

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138

==
Way  cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down).  
Easier

to see
what they  are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around  
here.


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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
No, he meant 6x9.  The universe is perverse in that way, as least if you
play Scrabble. ;-)

>>> Joseph McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/28/2008 4:42 AM >>>

I believe he meant to say 6 x 7  i.e.: 42

Not only the answer to everything, but Pentax's chosen large medium  
format. What a tribute!

Joseph McAllister
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On Nov 27, 2008, at 19:31 , Brian Walters wrote:

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> On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, "Merlin Who"
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RE: PESO -- Closed for the season.

2008-11-28 Thread Anthony Farr
Are we seeing the same picture?  I see the side of a building with an empty
flag-holder at top-centre.  The trees are very small and way off in the
background.

It's an interesting enough picture but I'd like to see either more or less
context.  IOW it lacks a story but it's not disconnected enough to qualify
as abstract.

Regards, Anthony

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> 
> Great light - interesting shape to the tree.  Very photogenic.
> 
> Perhaps would have been slightly better with a lower viewpoint to get
> the bottom branch above the background foliage.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:54:21 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
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http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20closedfortheseason.html
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Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

2008-11-28 Thread PN Stenquist
Thanks for the research. So we're not the only ones who are without an  
answer.


BTW, I looked more carefully at the distribution of the leaf stains  
when I was out running yesterday. I now believe the leaves are from  
two maple trees. I believe they're hybrids developed for bright red  
fall color, perhaps the variety known here as Crimson King.

Paul


On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:54 AM, mike wilson wrote:





From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/27 Thu PM 01:45:43 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

I believe that the leaves are from  sycamore tree. Other leaves don't
seem to leave such a distinct impression.
Paul


This seems to be the best answer I can find online.
http://biojournalism.com/95-leaf-shadows-stained-concrete.html


On Nov 27, 2008, at 3:42 AM, mike wilson wrote:





From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/25 Tue PM 04:06:37 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

They look like they could be oak leaves, which are full of tannins.
That would stain the concrete and eventually be weathered away.


What I find odd is that they are (presumably) quite water soluble,
to be leached out of the leaf into the concrete by rain or dew but
then they are not washed away from there.  Very, very intriquing.
The other possibility is that it is a wax covering that is somehow
being transferred to the concrete and then resisting removal.  Plant
waxes are rather persistent chemicals - carnauba wax, found in many
polishes until the advent of modern polymers, is/was extracted from
the surface of leaves.



mike wilson wrote:

From: PN Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2008/11/24 Mon PM 06:51:42 GMT
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Subject: Re: GESO: Autumn Memories

Thanks Marnie. I've never seen this kind of impression anywhere
other
than the location where I shot these pics. At least I finally got
around to shooting them:-). BTW, I used the venerable Vivitar
Series 1
90/2.5 at f4.



Do you know what sort of tree it is?  It looks as if there is some
residual resin being leached out and leaving the impression.



On Nov 24, 2008, at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 11/23/2008 5:20:53 P.M.  Pacific Standard  
Time,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Last year, I noticed a  strange phenomenon on my morning runs.  
It

seemed that on one short  stretch of new concrete, fallen leaves
would
leave an image that  lasted for months after the leaves had  
blown

away.
On adjacent  surfaces, no images were created. And it seemed
that only
one type of  leaf created these impressions. I was amazed to see
that
they endured  for months, through rain, snow, salting and  
plowing.

This
year the  process was repeated, and I decided to photograph some
of
these  "autumn  memories."
Paul

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=878138

==
Way  cool. I like the two leaves the best (one up, one down).
Easier
to see
what they  are. Interesting. Never noticed that anywhere around
here.

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RE: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread Anthony Farr
FF 3.0.4 looks good, I expect that it's how you intended.  Logo and text are
pale grey.
IE 7.0 is almost the same BUT the links to other pages are blue.

"Recent photographs" looks the same in both browsers, even the links are the
same colour.

>From the distances I can read I'd guess that young Bob is in Tunis (I can't
read Rome's distance which would clinch it).  Am I correct?

Regards, Anthony

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> 
> I've tidied up the front page of my website a little bit because I intend
to
> point there in the metadata in my photographs, for the sake of copyright
> traceability and permission. It also makes it easy for me to add / remove
> links from the page. There's nothing new on there.
> 
> I have tested it with a number of browsers on my PC, running XP SP3. My
> normal browser at the moment is IE v8 beta, where it works fine. I've also
> tested it on the following browsers on my PC, with comments about the
> results:
> 
> Opera - very good but the numbers on Lightroom index pages are the wrong
> colour
> Firefox - OK
> Safari - text is blotchy and lacks definition
> Chrome - very good, fast
> Amaya - rubbish. Layout is all over the place
> 
> and on IE6 at work (doesn't handle the CSS or logo properly).
> 
> I must say, I was very surprised that Amaya handled it so poorly.
> 
> Can other people have a quick look at the front page:
> http://www.web-options.com,
> and also at the page called Recent Photographs, and let me know if you get
> any strangeness or oddities, please?
> 
> Next question: the logo. I used the font to create an 'identity plate' in
> Adobe Lightroom, which saves it as a .png file. But since then I have
> reinstalled the operating system and other software on my box, and seem to
> have lost that font. Does anyone know what it's called and where I can
find
> it, please?
> 
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> Bob
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Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
One of my favorites.  I still use it as a slow normal zoom.

>>> "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/27/2008 7:44 PM >>>

Yes but I'm all set for FF Pentax, I've still got my 20-35mm FA 4.0  
really nice as an ultra wide on film,. even better as a ~28 mm 
equivalent on APS-C and also no where near $2000 when new.  It breaks
my 
heart that it's been discontinued.

Adam Maas wrote:
> And that's a crop lens. So it would be one of the ways of saving
$2000
> dollars by running in DX crop mode. It sucks at 18mm on FF (Been
> there, done that with the Tokina on an F100, it's not anything
> approaching a solution for FF use).
>
> Truly good ultra-wide zooms for F mount come down to the 14-24 f2.8
> (the king of ultra-wide zoom performance on any mount right now,
beats
> every prime in its range except the 21 Distagon) at $2k CDN and the
> 17-35 f2.8 AF-S which gets worse as it gets wider but is extremely
> good at 35mm. That's around $1500CDN new if you can actually find
one.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:24 AM, P. J. Alling
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>   
>> Hum, last I herd the Pentax 12-24 was pretty decent, and that
doesn't cost
>> anywhere near to $2000.  The Tokina version might or might not be
SMC but it
>> has a pretty good reputation.  I always considered 18mm pretty much
ultra
>> wide on 35mm.
>>
>> Adam Maas wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms
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>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 From: "David Savage"

 
>>>   
> Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a "cropped"
> resolution,
> but they do work.
>
>   
 What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR,
if
 you're
 only going to be able to shoot "cropped" because the lenses won't
cover
 the
 full frame?

 
>>> So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a
good
>>> ultra-wide zoom.
>>>
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I thought it was Xmas and three wise guys.

>>> ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/27/2008 8:57 PM >>>



Bill Owens wrote:

>I see I brought out the wise guys :-)
>
>Bill
>
What's Thanksgiving without wiseguys?

ann

>
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>>Geez Bill, where do you get the rolling papers, and how do you keep
them
>>lit?
>>
>>Bill Owens wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Before I became somewhat physically incapacited, I always smoked
the
>>>holiday turkeys.  Took a fair amount of time, but that smoked
flavor
>>>was delicious.
>>>
>>>Bill
>>>
>>>On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 4:34 PM, PN Stenquist
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>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Happy Turkey day to all. We just finished ours. We did the high
temperature
cooking method outlined in Gourmet mag. I've done this before, so
it
wasn't
exactly and experiment.  It works. 450 degrees for about 1 1/2
hours for
a
12 pound turkey,  or until you get an internal temp of 165 degrees.
Looks
bad. Tastes great.
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>Same to you, Jack!  And Everyone else on PDML.  Cheers, Christine
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>>Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type
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>>mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled
with
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RE: OT: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread mike wilson

> 
> From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2008/11/28 Fri AM 11:15:51 GMT
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Subject: RE: OT: Browser & font questions
> 
> > > Next question: the logo. I used the font to create an 
> > 'identity plate' in
> > > Adobe Lightroom, which saves it as a .png file. But since 
> > then I have
> > > reinstalled the operating system and other software on my 
> > box, and seem to
> > > have lost that font. Does anyone know what it's called and 
> > where I can find
> > > it, please?
> > 
> > site looks OK at work (XP, IE6) will oook at it at home 
> > (Newcomen beam engine, camera obscura) later.  
> 
> my machine at work is XP and IE6. The logo came out with a dark grey
> background on the light grey of the rest of the page - very ugly. Did it do
> that on yours?

It's a rather fetching shade of pale duck-egg blue with 
grey text a bit lighter than the background - about the same as the light side 
of the pole.  Interestingly, on the "recent photographs" page, the background 
disappears and only the wording acts as a hyperlink.  You have to get the 
pointer exactly on the line of the script for it to work.
> 
> > Amusingly, 
> > given the above, the font is Papyrus, a TTF office font.  If 
> > you can't find it online I can mail it to you tonight.
> > 
> 
> Ah, thanks. I must have not installed it when I reinstalled Office. Thanks
> for the offer, but I'll get it off my installation disk.

It wasn't on the 2003 installation disk.  Can't remember where I got it from, 
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Re: PESO -- Closed for the season.

2008-11-28 Thread Brian Walters
This, of course, should have been a comment on 'Westerly Effect"

I knew I shouldn't have had that extra glass of red with dinner..



Cheers

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:26:01 +1100, "Brian Walters"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Great light - interesting shape to the tree.  Very photogenic.
> 
> Perhaps would have been slightly better with a lower viewpoint to get
> the bottom branch above the background foliage.
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> Cheers
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> On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:54:21 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Kind of a whatsit?
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> > http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20closedfortheseason.html
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> > Equipment:  Pentax *ist-Ds/smc Pentax FA 20-35mm f4.0
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Re: PESO -- Closed for the season.

2008-11-28 Thread Brian Walters
Great light - interesting shape to the tree.  Very photogenic.

Perhaps would have been slightly better with a lower viewpoint to get
the bottom branch above the background foliage.



Cheers

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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:54:21 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
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> Kind of a whatsit?
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~morephotos/PESO%20--%20closedfortheseason.html
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RE: OT: Browser & font questions

2008-11-28 Thread Bob W
> > Next question: the logo. I used the font to create an 
> 'identity plate' in
> > Adobe Lightroom, which saves it as a .png file. But since 
> then I have
> > reinstalled the operating system and other software on my 
> box, and seem to
> > have lost that font. Does anyone know what it's called and 
> where I can find
> > it, please?
> 
> site looks OK at work (XP, IE6) will oook at it at home 
> (Newcomen beam engine, camera obscura) later.  

my machine at work is XP and IE6. The logo came out with a dark grey
background on the light grey of the rest of the page - very ugly. Did it do
that on yours?

> Amusingly, 
> given the above, the font is Papyrus, a TTF office font.  If 
> you can't find it online I can mail it to you tonight.
> 

Ah, thanks. I must have not installed it when I reinstalled Office. Thanks
for the offer, but I'll get it off my installation disk.

Cheers,
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Re: Visited today local Pentax service

2008-11-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Bob W wrote:

Resistance is useless, Boris. Give in. Go on, you know you want to...

http://www.web-options.com/Leicas.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/679bfb

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aperture64/2739236380/

http://photo.net/columns/mjohnston/column38/marshallM4.jpg

http://cameraquest.com/LeicaM4G.htm

http://uk.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/leica_a_la_carte/configurato
r/

http://uk.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/m8/


Bob, I should tell you that I feel no particular change of my emotional 
state when I look at pictures of Leica cameras. I do feel something 
however when I look at pictures taken with Leica cameras and Leica lenses.


But then again I am so much in love with my A 50/1.2 that I can easily 
shrug off the temptation.


*chuckle*

Boris


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Re: PDML Digest, Vol 31, Issue 261

2008-11-28 Thread mshabbir gill
No doubt Nikon F4 is a great camera but i agree LX is superior in
performance exceot AF. IMHO a small camera MZ5N can beat in
performance and Autofocus is superior to F4. I have above machines but
no doubt look wise MZ5N is also a nice camera and light too for
lengthy session and spedcially focusing with manual lenses i.e. "Trap
Focus".

>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:56:16 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brendan MacRae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: The most beautiful camera
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> I too think the Nikon F4 is a great looking camera. We
> all drooled over it in high school. But the F100 beats
> it by a mile. I think the F100 is the best looking
> Nikon ever made. I've always liked the M6 for it's
> simple lines. Also, the Oly OM4 is a great looking
> camera. However, all cameras should be black, they
> look much better that way.
>
> But...
>
> The black bodied Spotmatic F is a truly beautiful
> camera. The Super A is gorgeous, too. But for me,
> nothing tops the LX. The LX is the most beautiful
> camera ever made.
>
> -Brendan
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Re: Boris PESO - Week 46

2008-11-28 Thread Boris Liberman

Evan Hanson wrote:
Boris, since the leaves fell from the trees I've been trying to take 
just a photo that captured the season.  You've done far better than I.


Evan


Thanks, Even. Though evidently I had no aim to compete with any one. I 
only was having fun taking pictures...


Boris


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