Re: OT, Very OT - Just had a surreal moment...

2009-06-25 Thread Derby Chang

David Savage wrote:

...and it happened only a few minutes ago.

I apologise in advance for the off topicness of this post but I just
need to get it off my chest.

I am 31 years old, and will be 32 in December.

I have kept in my possession since I was 15/16 years old a particular
leather belt  eagles head belt buckle. The buckle is gaudy and ugly,
but at that time was a cool thing to have.

At around this age the belt became too small for me. A trip to one of
the leather goods stalls at the local markets was made to enquire
about having a new belt custom made so that I could keep using my
prized buckle. This lead to a comment that has stuck with me since
then. He said he could make me a belt, but not in 1 strip of leather
as Cows are only so big. Demoralised I gave up on the belt  buckle
 got a regular leather dress belt.

I just tried on my old belt

It fits again. With holes to spare


DS

  


I think this story is incomplete without a photo, a la the Sticky 
Fingers album cover. Will you oblige, Dave?


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Re: OT PESO - Milky Way Rainbow

2009-06-25 Thread Derby Chang

David Savage wrote:

G'day Folks,

Another night shot from my trip up north:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3654473550/

Direct link (~170kb)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2433/3654473550_3c5c587408_o.jpg

D700, AF-D 20mm f2.8, 31seconds @ f5.6, ISO 6400. 7 frame panorama,
stitched in PTGui, tided up in PS  finished off in LR.

It's pretty cool to stand in a relatively isolated spot, listening to
the sound of bats  howling dingos, while watching the Milky Way
stretch from one horizon to another. It literally sent a shiver down
my spine.

This is one of those occasions where doing a panorama was the only way
to capture the view. My widest lens at that time (20mm) wasn't wide
enough to fit it all in.

I have been wanting to retry a night sky pano since an somewhat
unsuccessful attempt on my Kalgoorlie road trip in Feb. This one kinda
works.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Dave


  



Geez. I think the words of two philosopher kings are appropriate here.

We're not worthy.

That's gorgeous

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Re: Blue

2009-06-25 Thread Derby Chang

Exquisite

Makes me want to cut my ear off...(not literally. I like my ears)


Ken Waller wrote:

Great capture. The blue almost hurts!

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist 
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Subject: PESO: Blue



DA* 60-250 on the K20D. f5.6 @ 1/180th, ISO 400, 250mm

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9382713



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Re: OT: Panasonic Battery Packs

2009-06-25 Thread AlunFoto
2009/6/24 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:
 Welcome to the inevitable backlash from the manufacturers over cheap,
 out-of-spec batteries. The batteries are causing warranty claims due
 to their lack of functional therman protection circuits so the
 manufacturers program the cameras to not accept them.

I agree.

But doesn't it make the coming Pentax K-7 stand out all the more, with
its battery grip accepting AA cells and whatnot? :-)

jostein

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Jeff Ascough (and Garry Winogrand)

2009-06-25 Thread Derby Chang
Mike Johnston links to a very cool blog today. Bonus bit on the blog is 
a Winogrand clip I hadn't seen before.


http://jeffascough.typepad.com/jeff_ascough_blog/2009/06/one-of-the-most-used-lenses-for-wedding-photography-is-the-big-70-200-f28-personally-ive-never-seen-the-fascination-for-us.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/mskgtn

I love everything about this photo of Jeff's - the dutiful pooch, the 
mother about to iron her daughter's dress with the stained iron, the boy 
with the upside down chips.

http://jeffascough.typepad.com/.a/6a01156f7d083a970c01157011fd8d970c-pi

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Re: OT Book writing question

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele



William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: Re: OT 
Book writing question




NEXT ?   where is your FIRST one?? 



Sorry, I thought I had bragged about it.

http://www.blurb.com/books/384637

William Robb

-


doggonit, you probably  did, but it is new to us :-)

when that gravy train (snicker) comes In I'll have to get myself a copy...
Appropriate paw prints hoped for.  

Hopefully that will happen before the end of the year.  


xo,
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Re: PESO Another weed picture

2009-06-25 Thread AlunFoto
looks like a pretty cousin of Hortensia.
Lovely rendered. Very pleasant bokeh at all stages of defocus, afa I can see.

Jostein

2009/6/24 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 Hi Team,

 Just a quick grab shot that surprised me, commendations or criticisms 
 welcomed.

 The image was captured hand held using my trusty *ist D and smc
 PENTAX-DA 35mm F2.8 Limited at f4.5, the subject is of course the
 flower of a Lantana bush.

 http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP25434.jpg (~421kB)

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Re: OT, Very OT - Just had a surreal moment...

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele


Derby Chang wrote:


David Savage wrote:


.
At around this age the belt became too small for me. A trip to one of
the leather goods stalls at the local markets was made to enquire
about having a new belt custom made so that I could keep using my
prized buckle. This lead to a comment that has stuck with me since
then. He said he could make me a belt, but not in 1 strip of leather
as Cows are only so big. Demoralised I gave up on the belt  buckle
 got a regular leather dress belt.

I just tried on my old belt

It fits again. With holes to spare

DS

 


I think this story is incomplete without a photo, a la the Sticky 
Fingers album cover. Will you oblige, Dave?


D 


derby, be careful what you wish for...  he did one already...

or didn't you see that , um, earlier graphic illustration of the shift?

dave - return to the skies above,  ignore his request, etc etc

ann
(14 lbs lighter since January... and no, I'm NOT going to provide photos)











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Re: OT PESO - Milky Way Rainbow

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:32 -0400, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Poke around a bit, you'll be even happier that you weren't drinking
 coffee.
 
 http://digital--underground.tripod.com/id8.htm
 



Yikes!


Cheers

Brian

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  On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:41 +1000, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com
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  2009/6/25 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
  
  I've got an idea, for the cost of a D700, I could get three K20s, and
  set up a bracket and wiring to do simultaneous three camera
  panos. It'd be a little unweildy, but I'd get more sensor area than
  the D700, and wouldn't have to worry about movement between frames.
 

  Or you could fashion one of these -
 
  http://digital--underground.tripod.com/id9.htm
 
  
 
 
  I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I opened that link, or I would
  have needed a new keyboard.
 
  That's just weird enough to be worth trying..
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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Re: OT Book writing question

2009-06-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
I recognize some of those pictures, but this is the first I've heard of a book.
The dogs are obviously having fun and make great subjects.
It's a nice way to make a photo album.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:16 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: ann sanfedele Subject: Re: OT Book
 writing question




 NEXT ?   where is your FIRST one??


 Sorry, I thought I had bragged about it.

 http://www.blurb.com/books/384637

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LBA ?.. Kenko and soligor P/AF extention tube sets

2009-06-25 Thread James
Just picked up one set each of these. Almost impossiable to find a set that 
passes all 7 lens information contacts through.
At long last, I can use my  A 50mm 1.7 with tubes and PTTL flash instead of 
manual flash and a lot of guess work for my macro setup.

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Pink (Test shot with 12-24)

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Here's a test shot with the 12-24.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink.jpg

My question is - do other people with this lens see this amount of
fringing with this lens? Here's a crop at 100%:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop.jpg

Neither image has any sharpening applied either in Camera Raw or
Photoshop.


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Re: PESO 2009 - 110 - GDG

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Nice image.  I could use one of those .  .  .

Dan

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgiramar...@mac.com wrote:
 Great day in SF with a friend having lunch, visiting galleries, and shooting
 with the Cosmicar 12.5mm ...

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3658294863_6cf5fdc7a0_o.jpg
 110 - Double Espresso  Two Truffles - San Francisco 2009
 Panasonic G1 + Cosmicar 12.5mm f/1.4
 ISO 100 @ f/4 @ 1/320 sec
  flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/3658294863/

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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very Nice.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I wanna play too!

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=427

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Re:Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Not the one I was looking for, but here is a stretch for green:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9388016

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PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread David Savage
G'day All,

Carrying on the colour theme:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

Direct link (~260kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I'm green with envy.

Dan

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 G'day All,

 Carrying on the colour theme:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

 Direct link (~260kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Stenquist

Nice pic.
I don't recall ever seeing abnormal fringing with the 12-24. It might  
just be that this particular combination of colors and extreme  
contrast caused the fringe.


Here's a relatively high contrast pic I shot with the lens a couple of  
years ago, f8, 15mm:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4797891

Here's a 100% crop of the highest contrast area. That could be a bit  
of blue fringe on the tops of two buildings, but I think it's a  
reflection of the sky:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9388073

I'd shoot some more tests and see if it's a recurring problem. If so,  
you may want to request a replacement. You should also check for  
flatness of focus field, wide open at 24mm. If there's a misalignment  
of elements it might show up there.


Paul

On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Here's a test shot with the 12-24.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink.jpg

My question is - do other people with this lens see this amount of
fringing with this lens? Here's a crop at 100%:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop.jpg

Neither image has any sharpening applied either in Camera Raw or
Photoshop.


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PESO: reddish pink

2009-06-25 Thread Subash
me too!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3034781740_5045e690e6_o.jpg

:)

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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Well, as you will note, I named it Sorta Orange. Thus freeing me from the 
color nitters..I thought. ;))

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO Sorta Orange
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 Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:37 PM
 Glad you liked  the Yellow,
 Jack
 
 However...
 you either have to cheat down the red cast in your entry in
 PS or find a true orange...
 I know someone here who is likely to have a really true
 orange flower we've seen but I mention no names.
 
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
 
  I wanna play too!
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=427
  
  Jack
  
   
 dig on...
 Mine was easy to find because I just used file find with
 keyword yellow...  I name all the images
 I think are worth doing anything with at all - though
 keeping the original raw files or jpgs with
 the numbers from the camera...  of corusewit my
 brooksian abilities to type and spell it doesn't always
 work
 
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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Appreciate it Dan.

Jack

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 Very Nice.
 
 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Jack Davisjdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  I wanna play too!
 
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=427
 
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Re: Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

sorry dan 
gotta be a blossom...
which is hard to find...  but the grass is sure the right color:-)

she who must be obeyed

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Not the one I was looking for, but here is a stretch for green:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9388016

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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

ann sends David back to the video tape too...

You guys jsut don't read the instructions

Green FLOWER  --

(ann jumps up and down petulantly)

not that it isn't a lovely shot



David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

Carrying on the colour theme:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

Direct link (~260kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: PESO Another weed picture

2009-06-25 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:52 -0400, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 
 PS. What is this plant? Why is everybody so much against it? 
 



I think this reference says it all (at least for Australia):

http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident.cgi?tpl=plant.tplibra=allcard=S03


Could be worse.

http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/kudzu.shtml

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Am anxious for an answer. Have been considering this lens myself. Blossoms are 
very bright and as a result, lack some detail. It's obvious, but I'll add the 
usual; on my monitor. ;)

Jack

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 From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
 Subject: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)
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 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 6:08 AM
 Here's a test shot with the 12-24.
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink.jpg
 
 My question is - do other people with this lens see this
 amount of
 fringing with this lens? Here's a crop at 100%:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop.jpg
 
 Neither image has any sharpening applied either in Camera
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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread David Savage
Well there are little weed flowers in that grass.

:-P

DS

2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
 ann sends David back to the video tape too...

 You guys jsut don't read the instructions

 Green FLOWER  --

 (ann jumps up and down petulantly)

 not that it isn't a lovely shot



 David Savage wrote:

 G'day All,

 Carrying on the colour theme:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

 Direct link (~260kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: reddish pink

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

nice shot but...
first there was a blue flower, then a red flower, then a yellow flower - 
to complete the 3 primary colors

on the color wheel...

then, bossy old me, I said  lets fill in the other three (green,purple, 
orange) in the classic wheel.


The wrinkle is there are not many green blossoms...

frisky ann



Subash wrote:


me too!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3034781740_5045e690e6_o.jpg

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele



Jack Davis wrote:


Am anxious for an answer. Have been considering this lens myself. Blossoms are 
very bright and as a result, lack some detail. It's obvious, but I'll add the 
usual; on my monitor. ;)

Jack


I was thinking it made that lens look pretty bad...

ann



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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
Subject: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 6:08 AM
Here's a test shot with the 12-24.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink.jpg

My question is - do other people with this lens see this
amount of
fringing with this lens? Here's a crop at 100%:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop.jpg

Neither image has any sharpening applied either in Camera
Raw or
Photoshop.


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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

bleah
a

David Savage wrote:


Well there are little weed flowers in that grass.

:-P

DS

2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
 


ann sends David back to the video tape too...

You guys jsut don't read the instructions

Green FLOWER  --

(ann jumps up and down petulantly)

not that it isn't a lovely shot



David Savage wrote:

   


G'day All,

Carrying on the colour theme:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

Direct link (~260kb):

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Aptly titled. Verdant and bucolic. Like it even though can only see parts of 
some critters. ;)

Jack

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 From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO - Green
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 6:29 AM
 G'day All,
 
 Carrying on the colour theme:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/
 
 Direct link (~260kb):
 
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg
 
 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.
 
 Enjoy,
 
 Cheers,
 
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Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Dario Bonazza

Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread David Savage
OK, here is a greenish flower:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/2481724833_64cf3efceb_o.jpg

DS

2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
 bleah
 a

 David Savage wrote:

 Well there are little weed flowers in that grass.

 :-P

 DS

 2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:


 ann sends David back to the video tape too...

 You guys jsut don't read the instructions

 Green FLOWER  --

 (ann jumps up and down petulantly)

 not that it isn't a lovely shot



 David Savage wrote:



 G'day All,

 Carrying on the colour theme:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/

 Direct link (~260kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg

 K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO 200.

 Enjoy,

 Cheers,

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PESO - Kinda greyish

2009-06-25 Thread Thomas Bohn
Never go with the masses, once a wise old men told me. So, my colour of
the day is grey.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tehabe/3657944388/

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Re: PESO - Green

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

I'm not sure that petal reflections count, Dave. ;)) High points for 
creativity, however. :)

Jack

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 From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: PESO - Green
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 7:25 AM
 OK, here is a greenish flower:
 
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/2481724833_64cf3efceb_o.jpg
 
 DS
 
 2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
  bleah
  a
 
  David Savage wrote:
 
  Well there are little weed flowers in that grass.
 
  :-P
 
  DS
 
  2009/6/25 ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:
 
 
  ann sends David back to the video tape too...
 
  You guys jsut don't read the instructions
 
  Green FLOWER  --
 
  (ann jumps up and down petulantly)
 
  not that it isn't a lovely shot
 
 
 
  David Savage wrote:
 
 
 
  G'day All,
 
  Carrying on the colour theme:
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3659293617/
 
  Direct link (~260kb):
 
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3409/3659293617_32a8048b4c_o.jpg
 
  K20D, FA* 200mm f2.8, 1/100 @ f5, ISO
 200.
 
  Enjoy,
 
  Cheers,
 
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Re: Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
This one has a greenish tinge to the yellow:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8778986


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:12 AM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 sorry dan 
 gotta be a blossom...
 which is hard to find...  but the grass is sure the right color:-)

 she who must be obeyed

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)


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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread paul stenquist

Excellent.
It's a fine lens, and I was surprised at the earlier result. it's  
interesting that the fringe can be introduced, or at least  
exaggerated, in RAW conversion. Something to keep in mind.

Paul
On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)


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Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread paul stenquist

My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)


I've been looking through photos I've taken with the 12-24, trying to 
find examples of the fringing, because I couldn't remember ever seeing 
any. Glad you figured it out.


And I have taken many photos of my feet, and tripod legs, with the lens.

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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That certainly IS orange.

Dan

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 My Michigan grown California poppy:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564

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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread paul stenquist
Shot with the Vivitar Series 1 90/2.5 macro by the way -- the original  
tank-like metal version.

On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


That certainly IS orange.

Dan

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My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer wrote:

And I have taken many photos of my feet, and tripod legs, with the lens.

Sounds like a possible PUG theme.



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OT: National Geographic Pictures of the Year

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://bigpicture.typepad.com/writing/2009/03/national-geogra.html

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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Doug Brewer

paul stenquist wrote:

My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564


great color there, Paul. Here's my orange:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/home#section=ARTISTsubSection=101965subSubSection=135964language=EN 



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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread paul stenquist

Very orange. Nice composition. Erotic in a vegetative sort of way:-).
Paul
On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


paul stenquist wrote:

My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564


great color there, Paul. Here's my orange:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ 
home#section=ARTISTsubSection=101965subSubSection=135964language=EN


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Re: OT: Panasonic Battery Packs

2009-06-25 Thread Adam Maas
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:06 AM, AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 2009/6/24 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:
 Welcome to the inevitable backlash from the manufacturers over cheap,
 out-of-spec batteries. The batteries are causing warranty claims due
 to their lack of functional therman protection circuits so the
 manufacturers program the cameras to not accept them.

 I agree.

 But doesn't it make the coming Pentax K-7 stand out all the more, with
 its battery grip accepting AA cells and whatnot? :-)

 jostein


Nope, AA support in the grip is pretty much standard. The K10D/K20D
were unusual in that the D-BG2 doesn't take AA's. NiMH and Lithium AA
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Re: PESO: reddish pink

2009-06-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:19:14AM -0400, ann sanfedele scripsit:
 nice shot but...  first there was a blue flower, then a red
 flower, then a yellow flower -  to complete the 3 primary colors on
 the color wheel...

 then, bossy old me, I said  lets fill in the other three
 (green,purple,  orange) in the classic wheel.

 The wrinkle is there are not many green blossoms...

Not many large ones, at least.

I was pretty sure you wouldn't go for duckweed, and I have (alas) no
pictures of green roses.

So here's my best attempt:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_3wj7AowTcVM/SkOdJR78FcI/CK0/fqE5JFIgXrM/s1600-h/monarch%2Bgreenflowers.jpg

Complete with feeding butterfly to insist that, indeed, those little
nubbin things *are* flowers.

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Re: PESO - Kinda greyish

2009-06-25 Thread AlunFoto
2009/6/25 Thomas Bohn tho...@bohnomat.de:
 Never go with the masses, once a wise old men told me. So, my colour of
 the day is grey.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tehabe/3657944388/

:-)

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Re: OT: Panasonic Battery Packs

2009-06-25 Thread AlunFoto
2009/6/25 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca:
 Nope, AA support in the grip is pretty much standard. The K10D/K20D
 were unusual in that the D-BG2 doesn't take AA's.

Really? I wasn't aware that other brands supported AA cells. Interesting.

 NiMH and Lithium AA
 cells do not have the safety issues that can be experienced with out
 of spec Lithium-Ion packs.

good point.

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jun 25, 2009, at 9:49, Mark Roberts wrote:


All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg



Way better.  What a relief!

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:57:20PM -0400, Christian scripsit:
 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

 ooohhh, I'll need to get one of those

Is the picture quality going to not suck?

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Christian

Graydon wrote:

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:57:20PM -0400, Christian scripsit:

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

ooohhh, I'll need to get one of those


Is the picture quality going to not suck?

-- Graydon


I dunno...  I like it for three reasons.  1. wide angle; 2. waterproof 
(I can go for rides or sail and not worry about dumping water on it); 3. 
shockproof (I don't have to worry about it getting banged up on a ride 
or a sail).


If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S, I'll 
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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Christian

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

Dario




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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Dario Bonazza

Christian wrote:


I dunno...  I like it for three reasons.  1. wide angle;


Fine, but same as Optio W60. And don't forget 1cm macro (again, same as 
W60).


2. waterproof (I can go for rides or sail and not worry about dumping 
water on it);


Fine, but small improvement over the Optio W60 (5m depth instead of 4m)

3. shockproof (I don't have to worry about it getting banged up on a ride 
or a sail).


This is the improvement.

If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S, I'll be 
interested.


Who knows? I'd expect better quality with good light and worse quality (due 
to higher noise) with poor light.


Dario 



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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Oh, gosh, another PDMLer causes Lens Lust on my end.   What's a gal to do? 
Cheers, Christine


P.S. Nice one Mark.

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Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error



All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)


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Re: PESO - Red

2009-06-25 Thread David J Brooks
Well, mine never look like that, so your work flow obviously worked Rick.:-0

Thanks for that tip, filed away for the Asian Lily shots. I have a lot
of reds and orange ones.

Dave

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Inspired by Paul's Blue:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9385171size=lg

 (K10D and DA 16-45)

 I spent some time on the plane back to the US today experimenting with red 
 flowers in Lightroom.  The trick seems to be decreasing the luminance in the 
 red and orange channels.  Previously I had played with saturation and color 
 temp, but luminance works a lot better and is easier.

 Chainsaw, you might be interested.

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OT Freedom 56.75

2009-06-25 Thread David J Brooks
Schools done, and so am I until Sept 8th.

Massive honeydew jar, plus i hope to do some writing, and personal
photography for fair entries, during the break.

I thought being retired was supposed to be relaxing.

:-)

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele
I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in December 
and rejected...  

such silliness  


ann

Dario Bonazza wrote:


Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

Dario

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

Yup, that sure do look a lot better

better user error than screwed up lens, no?

pretty pic... I was just out in the park shooting the same flower, but 
different color variation..
aside from being a lily - anyone know a horticulturist's name for this 
variety?



ann

Mark Roberts wrote:


All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)


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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

Hehe... you nailed it, Paul
but I had expected Dayton , particularly, to have gotten it in...

ann

paul stenquist wrote:


My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564

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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Very nice, Paul. Not bad looking poppy for one not grown in California. ;)
Like the composition and background. Some might think it a bit too soft, but 
I'm into the mood created.

Jack

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 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 7:54 AM
 My Michigan grown California poppy:
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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

Well Paul's looks like jsut the right hue and tone of orange here but

as for Doug's shot, I'd call  it one in vermillion 

(and, they're off!)

ann

paul stenquist wrote:


Very orange. Nice composition. Erotic in a vegetative sort of way:-).
Paul
On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


paul stenquist wrote:


My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564



great color there, Paul. Here's my orange:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ 
home#section=ARTISTsubSection=101965subSubSection=135964language=EN


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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:16:38PM -0400, Christian scripsit:
 Graydon wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:57:20PM -0400, Christian scripsit:
 Dario Bonazza wrote:
 Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
 http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp
 ooohhh, I'll need to get one of those

 Is the picture quality going to not suck?

 I dunno...  I like it for three reasons.  1. wide angle; 2. waterproof
 (I can go for rides or sail and not worry about dumping water on it);
 3.  shockproof (I don't have to worry about it getting banged up on a
 ride  or a sail).

1 m drop isn't *very* shockproof.

I rather like the -10 C, myself, but it's still a small sensor with too
many dots and a -- presumably debugged by now -- teeny internal zoom.

 If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S,
 I'll be interested.

I'll admit to having a strong bias against cameras that don't provide a
raw capture option in this respect, or, really, it's more or a loathing
of JPEGs.  This isn't entirely rational.

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Christian

ann sanfedele wrote:
I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in December 
and rejected... 
such silliness 
ann


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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Christian

Graydon wrote:

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:16:38PM -0400, Christian scripsit:

Graydon wrote:

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:57:20PM -0400, Christian scripsit:

Dario Bonazza wrote:

Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

ooohhh, I'll need to get one of those

Is the picture quality going to not suck?

I dunno...  I like it for three reasons.  1. wide angle; 2. waterproof
(I can go for rides or sail and not worry about dumping water on it);
3.  shockproof (I don't have to worry about it getting banged up on a
ride  or a sail).


1 m drop isn't *very* shockproof.

I rather like the -10 C, myself, but it's still a small sensor with too
many dots and a -- presumably debugged by now -- teeny internal zoom.


If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S,
I'll be interested.


I'll admit to having a strong bias against cameras that don't provide a
raw capture option in this respect, or, really, it's more or a loathing
of JPEGs.  This isn't entirely rational.

-- Graydon


I just want a rugged, small, compact that takes good enough for web or 
4x6 prints for a photo album quality pictures to take with me on my 
rides and sails.



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PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread Christine Aguila




http://caguila.com/caguila/periwinkle/content/belindawildflowershoot_16_Edit_large.html 




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Re: reddish pink

2009-06-25 Thread Christine Aguila
Gosh, all these flowers are pretty!  Nice one Subash  everyone else. 
Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com

To: pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: PESO: reddish pink



me too!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3160/3034781740_5045e690e6_o.jpg

:)

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Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele

Subject: Re: Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)



sorry dan 
gotta be a blossom...


In honour of this colour scheme thread, I thought I'd recycle this old 
horse.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/orange.html

Enjoy

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

Oh, gosh, another PDMLer causes Lens Lust on my end.   What's a gal to do? 

Blame Doug Brewer. He started it.


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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Graydon
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 02:32:36PM -0400, Christian scripsit:
 Graydon wrote:
[snip; discussion of the Optio W80 as was just announced]
 I rather like the -10 C, myself, but it's still a small sensor with too
 many dots and a -- presumably debugged by now -- teeny internal zoom.

 If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S,
 I'll be interested.

 I'll admit to having a strong bias against cameras that don't provide a
 raw capture option in this respect, or, really, it's more or a loathing
 of JPEGs.  This isn't entirely rational.

 I just want a rugged, small, compact that takes good enough for web or  
 4x6 prints for a photo album quality pictures to take with me on my  
 rides and sails.

Which makes lots of sense.  I may be traumatized by trying to do that
was an LX2, I don't know; I just found that a)there was no low-light
capability to speak of, so many inside shots were impractical, and
b)most of the things I wanted snapshots of were too far away.  This is
doubtless much more of a PEBKAC problem than a camera problem as such.

-- Graydon

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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Christine  Aguila wrote:

http://caguila.com/caguila/periwinkle/content/belindawildflowershoot_16_Edit_large.html
 

You mean periwinkle the color, as opposed to periwinkle the plant?
Because that looks more like Spiderwort
(http://www.gpnc.org/spiderwo.htm) than Periwinkle
(http://biotech.icmb.utexas.edu/botany/perihist.html)

Oh, BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/spiderwort.jpg

;-)



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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele
thats lovely, Christine!somewhere between Paul's blue and Jack's 
purple...

so your smiley was appropriate...
if we get to the 12 color wheel... oh god, what is she saying!!!

ann

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Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

maybe I need to recalibrate my  monitor...

looks like vermillion...
anotehr for the 12 color wheel

but it is a nice old horse _ I like it a lot


ann


William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele
Subject: Re: Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)



sorry dan 
gotta be a blossom...



In honour of this colour scheme thread, I thought I'd recycle this old 
horse.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/newer/orange.html

Enjoy

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Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele

Subject: Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)



maybe I need to recalibrate my  monitor...

looks like vermillion...
anotehr for the 12 color wheel

but it is a nice old horse _ I like it a lot




Thanks Ann. I calibrated my monitor last night, I'm pretty sure the colour 
is fairly bright orange

I may have missed reprofiling the file though.

William Robb 



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Re: Coffee Lovers

2009-06-25 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Feroze 
Subject: OT: Coffee Lovers




Hi,

I have some friends returning from Canada soon, I love trying out new 
coffees. I prefer a slighly bitter with a hint of toffee, any brands I 
should try and shops that she can buy it from in the winipeg area would 
be highly appreciated...thanks


I quite like the stuff that Robin's Donuts sells.

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Waller

My question is - do other people with this lens see this amount of
fringing with this lens?


I don't have the lens but it is interesting how the fringing on the LRH 
flower has it mostly confined to the RH side of the petals - is that commom?


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com


Subject: Pink (Test shot with 12-24)



Here's a test shot with the 12-24.
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink.jpg

My question is - do other people with this lens see this amount of
fringing with this lens? Here's a crop at 100%:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop.jpg

Neither image has any sharpening applied either in Camera Raw or
Photoshop.



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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Christine,
Excellent!  Love the composition and sharpness.  Such a delecate color.  Macro?
Regards,  Bob S.

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RE: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread John Celio
 I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in December 
 and rejected... 
 such silliness 
 ann

 Why did you reject it?

I think her main gripes were that the buttons were too small, and that
there was no optical viewfinder.

Personally, I love the Optio W series, and the new W80 looks really
nice.  As always, I can't afford one, but if I could it would be #1 on
my list.  Besides the nice specs, I really like the physical design of
the thing.

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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread Bob Sullivan
Also extraordinarily excellent!  Strange, but
I want to reframe it moving it about 1/2 inch up and to the right.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Oh, BTW: http://www.robertstech.com/temp/spiderwort.jpg

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Doug Brewer

Mark Roberts wrote:

Christine  Aguila wrote:

Oh, gosh, another PDMLer causes Lens Lust on my end.   What's a gal to do? 


Blame Doug Brewer. He started it.


did not.

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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread gldnbearz
Buy one?  Mr. UPS should be here next week with mine.  Time to go
wider than the 16-45.

-Pat

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 Oh, gosh, another PDMLer causes Lens Lust on my end.   What's a gal to do?
 Cheers, Christine

 P.S. Nice one Mark.


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FS - Two Lenses - Pentax DA 10-17 Fisheye and Takumar 18mm Pancake Fisheye

2009-06-25 Thread John Celio
Pentax DA 10-17 Fisheye - $370 obo

Fisheye-Takumar 18mm pancake M42 - $250 firm

Both lenses in extremely good condition, plus accessories.  Full details
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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Waller

It sure has the look of a rugged camera.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it

Subject: Multiple colors ;-)



Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Waller

Interestingly, its about the original price of the 3mp Optio S.

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- Original Message - 
From: Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it

Subject: Re: Multiple colors ;-)



Christian wrote:


I dunno...  I like it for three reasons.  1. wide angle;


Fine, but same as Optio W60. And don't forget 1cm macro (again, same as 
W60).


2. waterproof (I can go for rides or sail and not worry about dumping 
water on it);


Fine, but small improvement over the Optio W60 (5m depth instead of 4m)

3. shockproof (I don't have to worry about it getting banged up on a ride 
or a sail).


This is the improvement.

If the picture quality is equal to my current Optio MX or Optio S, I'll 
be interested.


Who knows? I'd expect better quality with good light and worse quality 
(due to higher noise) with poor light.


Dario



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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Waller
I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in December 
and rejected...


Couldn't have been. The DPreview article says the camera will be released in 
July 09.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com

Subject: Re: Multiple colors ;-)


I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in December 
and rejected...

such silliness
ann

Dario Bonazza wrote:


Not exactly a PESO of the color game, but...
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0906/09062501pentaxw80.asp

Dario



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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a much nicer photo than the first link. Glad you sorted it out.

Dave

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 All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
 working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
 flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
 in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
 didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
 to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
 discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
 instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
 correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

 New versions:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

 BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
 right-hand corner? :)


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Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Waller

Glad to hear it was operator error  you took the time to figure it out.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com

Subject: Re: Pink (Test shot with 12-24) - User Error



All right, I think I've got it sorted out now. First off, I *was*
working in a worst-case scenario: full wide (12mm) and shooting pink
flowers against a green background. But I also had some weird settings
in Camera Raw (I usually use Lightroom instead, but in this case I
didn't want to have to import the photos into the Lightroom database
to convert them - one of my gripes with Lightroom). Upon examination I
discovered that I had the Clarity setting somewhere around -100 (!)
instead of at 0. Correcting that and applying some of the fringing
correction available in Camera Raw yielded excellent results.

New versions:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/pink2.jpg
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/crop2.jpg

BTW: Notice that the ultra-wide view got my foot in the lower
right-hand corner? :)



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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Green bud was intentionally left there as a balancing offset to the greenery on 
the right. Works better for me that way.
I don't disagree with the qualified soft comment. Not really my style, but 
disregarded as a quick grab from the garden to join the theme. 
Thanks for commenting.

Jack

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 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 Subject: Re: PESO Sorta Orange
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Wednesday, June 24, 2009, 9:35 PM
 Orange you gonna name it?
 
 Nice except for the green bud @ 9 o'clock. Also looks a tad
 soft to me.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: PESO Sorta Orange
 
 
  
  I wanna play too!
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=427
  
  Jack
 
 
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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread Jack Davis

Please crop the left side to make it square. Delicate and beautiful, Christine.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO Periwinkle aka  P;-)le
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 11:46 AM
 
 
 
 http://caguila.com/caguila/periwinkle/content/belindawildflowershoot_16_Edit_large.html
 
 
 
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Re: Very Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Paul Sorenson

Another entry in the race for orange...

http://www.studio1941.com/geso/imgp0325.htm

-p

ann sanfedele wrote:

Well Paul's looks like jsut the right hue and tone of orange here but

as for Doug's shot, I'd call  it one in vermillion 

(and, they're off!)

ann

paul stenquist wrote:


Very orange. Nice composition. Erotic in a vegetative sort of way:-).
Paul
On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:


paul stenquist wrote:


My Michigan grown California poppy:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7441564



great color there, Paul. Here's my orange:

http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/ 
home#section=ARTISTsubSection=101965subSubSection=135964language=EN


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Re: RE: K 7 D FFN

2009-06-25 Thread Jens
Hello list
I have a habit of getting the latest Pentax top model. Where can I see the 
specs of the K7?

Will it have a built in GPS tracer?
Regards
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  Before our Grandfather Mountain gathering?!!
  Sure would be nice.
  Regards, Bob S.
  
  rumor says solid info to be out on May 20
 
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Re: K 7 D FFN

2009-06-25 Thread Charles Robinson

On Jun 25, 2009, at 16:08, Jens wrote:


Hello list
I have a habit of getting the latest Pentax top model. Where can I  
see the specs of the K7?




Go here, read, and enjoy

http://nedbunnell.blogspot.com/2009/06/pentax-k-7-operating-manual.html


Will it have a built in GPS tracer?


No.

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Re: Multiple colors ;-)

2009-06-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
She rejected the W-60, pushed on her by a salesman after she rejected  
my suggestion of the Z-10 (a camera I still love and use frequently)



On Jun 25, 2009, at 13:21 , Ken Waller wrote:

I think that is the critter I tried out for a couple of days in  
December and rejected...


Couldn't have been. The DPreview article says the camera will be  
released in July 09.


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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread paul stenquist

Nice shot. Love the color and rendering.
The crop Jack suggests would probably help. Sometimes centered is a  
good thing. Of course if you prefer it as a rectangle, you could clone  
in some background on the right.

Paul
On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:50 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



Please crop the left side to make it square. Delicate and beautiful,  
Christine.


Jack

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From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: PESO Periwinkle aka  P;-)le
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 11:46 AM



http://caguila.com/caguila/periwinkle/content/belindawildflowershoot_16_Edit_large.html



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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread gldnbearz
There are plenty of hens  chicks in my neighborhood, but have never
seen one put out a flower (that I recall).

- Pat

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Has no one on this list a photo of some Hens  Chickens or whatever they
 are called that grow in your rock walls or at the base of your trees?

 Hens and chicks plants are mat-forming succulents that produce clusters of
 rosettes. The parent rosettes are the hens, and the smaller rosettes that
 spring from them are the chicks or chickens. This low-growing (4)
 perennial will quickly spread to 2' or more in width. Although grown for its
 foliage, hens and chicks do flower (see picture), on a tall (1') flower
 stalk. The foliage of hens and chicks plants can be red, green or some
 mixture thereof.

 Have some, but they are slides, and I'm not going to go lookin' today...  or
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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread Joseph McAllister
Has no one on this list a photo of some Hens  Chickens or whatever  
they are called that grow in your rock walls or at the base of your  
trees?


Hens and chicks plants are mat-forming succulents that produce  
clusters of rosettes. The parent rosettes are the hens, and the  
smaller rosettes that spring from them are the chicks or chickens.  
This low-growing (4) perennial will quickly spread to 2' or more in  
width. Although grown for its foliage, hens and chicks do flower (see  
picture), on a tall (1') flower stalk. The foliage of hens and chicks  
plants can be red, green or some mixture thereof.


Have some, but they are slides, and I'm not going to go lookin'  
today...  or tomorrow.



On Jun 25, 2009, at 13:47 , Jack Davis wrote:

Green bud was intentionally left there as a balancing offset to the  
greenery on the right. Works better for me that way.
I don't disagree with the qualified soft comment. Not really my  
style, but disregarded as a quick grab from the garden to join the  
theme.

Thanks for commenting.

Jack


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Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele



William Robb wrote:



- Original Message - From: ann sanfedele
Subject: Re: Orange was Green was PURPLE was PESO - Yellow :-)



maybe I need to recalibrate my  monitor...

looks like vermillion...
anotehr for the 12 color wheel

but it is a nice old horse _ I like it a lot




Thanks Ann. I calibrated my monitor last night, I'm pretty sure the 
colour is fairly bright orange

I may have missed reprofiling the file though.

William Robb 


well I do keep mine a tad less bright than most...  so who knows?  


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Re: PESO Periwinkle aka P;-)le

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele



Jack Davis wrote:


Please crop the left side to make it square. Delicate and beautiful, Christine.

Jack


why???

You and Ken with your squares...  :-)

Christine, don't  listen to 'im

ann



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From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net
Subject: PESO Periwinkle aka  P;-)le
To: pdml@pdml.net
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 11:46 AM



http://caguila.com/caguila/periwinkle/content/belindawildflowershoot_16_Edit_large.html



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Re: PESO Sorta Orange

2009-06-25 Thread ann sanfedele

There is also a pland called a whorled something or other...
I DO have hen and chick photos, too .. but  another thought is those 
hideous st. patricks day died carnations ;-)


I didn't want to use up two of the 6 spots... hoped for six photogs /six 
pics


anyway - I have pretty much recovered from virus and someone coming to 
dinner so I wont be back to annoy you all until much later


ann

Joseph McAllister wrote:

Has no one on this list a photo of some Hens  Chickens or whatever  
they are called that grow in your rock walls or at the base of your  
trees?


Hens and chicks plants are mat-forming succulents that produce  
clusters of rosettes. The parent rosettes are the hens, and the  
smaller rosettes that spring from them are the chicks or 
chickens.  This low-growing (4) perennial will quickly spread to 2' 
or more in  width. Although grown for its foliage, hens and chicks do 
flower (see  picture), on a tall (1') flower stalk. The foliage of 
hens and chicks  plants can be red, green or some mixture thereof.


Have some, but they are slides, and I'm not going to go lookin'  
today...  or tomorrow.



On Jun 25, 2009, at 13:47 , Jack Davis wrote:

Green bud was intentionally left there as a balancing offset to the  
greenery on the right. Works better for me that way.
I don't disagree with the qualified soft comment. Not really my  
style, but disregarded as a quick grab from the garden to join the  
theme.

Thanks for commenting.

Jack



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Re: PESO Another weed picture

2009-06-25 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:14 -0400, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:
 From: Brian Walters
  On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:52 -0400, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
   
   PS. What is this plant? Why is everybody so much against it? 
   
  
  
  I think this reference says it all (at least for Australia):
  
  http://www.weeds.org.au/cgi-bin/weedident.cgi?tpl=plant.tplibra=allcard=S03
 
 Could be worse.
 
 http://www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov/plants/kudzu.shtml
 



We have that one here as well, although it seems to have confined itself
to the wet tropics (for now), 


Cheers

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