Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Alastair Robertson
Why not Jeffrey Friedl's Lightroom plugin
http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/gps - it seems to work fine -
you can use a GPX tracklog to geoencode or manually geoencode from
Google Earth or conversely, show a location in Google earth when you
have encoded information already tagged to the file.

Alastair

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:

 Interesting thread, this.

 I've started geotagging images using Studioline Photo
 Classic, the program I use for cataloging and managing my
 photos.  The program can read data from a portable GPS device
 but as I don't own one I'm manually geotagging.  It's not as
 slow as it sounds but obviously it's not going to be as
 accurate as using a GPS.

 I'm interested in getting a GPS device to make the geotagging
 more automatic but have no idea what's available. I'd be
 interested in any suggestions for a basic portable GPS
 device.  Studioline supports .gpx, .nmea and .kml formats.


 I use a Garmin eTrex H, which is basic and cheap, but suits my needs
 precisely.

 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=8705ra=true

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Thibouille
Brian, if you want  a GPS logger only it will be a lot cheaper but
will work just for that.
I do use (and I know Ralf does as well) a Garmin GPSMap 60cx which
recently plummeted price.
Garmin eTrex range is known as well to be good devices.

You may want to think about the intended uses of this device, it will
help chosing the good one.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:25 +1000, Rob Studdert
 distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/08/2009, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

  IMHO Thibouille doesn't need GPS-Babel either for retrieving track data
  from his Garmin. I have exactly the same model. It's recognized by Mac
  OS as a normal USB mass storage device and Houdah-Geo reads the files as
  they come out of the Garmin.
 
  The only case when I need GPS-Babel is when I want to convert my Garmin
  tracks to .kml files for display in Google Earth.

 I just found a near ideal Windows geotagging solution, GeoSetter, very
 nice, looks like it will do everything I need. My GPS device allows me
 to export tracks in various formats including .kml so I don't need
 GPS-Babel at all now :-)



 Interesting thread, this.

 I've started geotagging images using Studioline Photo Classic, the
 program I use for cataloging and managing my photos.  The program can
 read data from a portable GPS device but as I don't own one I'm manually
 geotagging.  It's not as slow as it sounds but obviously it's not going
 to be as accurate as using a GPS.

 I'm interested in getting a GPS device to make the geotagging more
 automatic but have no idea what's available. I'd be interested in any
 suggestions for a basic portable GPS device.  Studioline supports .gpx,
 .nmea and .kml formats.



 Cheers

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RE: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
Thanks, Bob

That looks simple enough for what I have in mind.



Cheers

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On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:22 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  
  Interesting thread, this.
  
  I've started geotagging images using Studioline Photo 
  Classic, the program I use for cataloging and managing my 
  photos.  The program can read data from a portable GPS device 
  but as I don't own one I'm manually geotagging.  It's not as 
  slow as it sounds but obviously it's not going to be as 
  accurate as using a GPS.
  
  I'm interested in getting a GPS device to make the geotagging 
  more automatic but have no idea what's available. I'd be 
  interested in any suggestions for a basic portable GPS 
  device.  Studioline supports .gpx, .nmea and .kml formats.
  
 
 I use a Garmin eTrex H, which is basic and cheap, but suits my needs
 precisely.
 
 https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=8705ra=true
 
 Bob
 
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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread SV Hovland
There are multiple solutions, including some small devices
(mouse-like) which became quite commoncalled gps loggers and full
featured GPS devices.

Another GPS device could be your cell phone. More and more of them does have a 
GPS built in.

I have made a small and easy to use gps logger for Windows Mobile smartphones. 
It log in standard gpx format.

A version for touch screen based devices are here: 
http://download.heime.org/GPSlogger_setup.CAB

And a version for smartphone without touchscreen are here: 
http://download.heime.org/GPSlogger_Smartphone_setup.CAB


Both are free to use. I have tested it on HTC phones. My HTC S740 can log for 
up to 8 hours on a full battery.

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:13 +0200, Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Brian, if you want  a GPS logger only it will be a lot cheaper but
 will work just for that.
 I do use (and I know Ralf does as well) a Garmin GPSMap 60cx which
 recently plummeted price.
 Garmin eTrex range is known as well to be good devices.
 
 You may want to think about the intended uses of this device, it will
 help chosing the good one.
 


The intended use would be purely for geotagging.  I don't really need a
GPS for any other purpose. The Garmin eTrexh that Bob mentioned looks
about right but I'll check out the other options as well.  I'm not in
any particular hurry to make a decision.



Cheers

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 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
  On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:25 +1000, Rob Studdert
  distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 10/08/2009, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:
 
   IMHO Thibouille doesn't need GPS-Babel either for retrieving track data
   from his Garmin. I have exactly the same model. It's recognized by Mac
   OS as a normal USB mass storage device and Houdah-Geo reads the files as
   they come out of the Garmin.
  
   The only case when I need GPS-Babel is when I want to convert my Garmin
   tracks to .kml files for display in Google Earth.
 
  I just found a near ideal Windows geotagging solution, GeoSetter, very
  nice, looks like it will do everything I need. My GPS device allows me
  to export tracks in various formats including .kml so I don't need
  GPS-Babel at all now :-)
 
 
 
  Interesting thread, this.
 
  I've started geotagging images using Studioline Photo Classic, the
  program I use for cataloging and managing my photos.  The program can
  read data from a portable GPS device but as I don't own one I'm manually
  geotagging.  It's not as slow as it sounds but obviously it's not going
  to be as accurate as using a GPS.
 
  I'm interested in getting a GPS device to make the geotagging more
  automatic but have no idea what's available. I'd be interested in any
  suggestions for a basic portable GPS device.  Studioline supports .gpx,
  .nmea and .kml formats.
 
 
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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:13 +1200, Alastair Robertson
kiwibiolog...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why not Jeffrey Friedl's Lightroom plugin
 http://regex.info/blog/lightroom-goodies/gps - it seems to work fine -
 you can use a GPX tracklog to geoencode or manually geoencode from
 Google Earth or conversely, show a location in Google earth when you
 have encoded information already tagged to the file.
 
 Alastair



That plugin looks useful but not to me as I don't use Lightroom (one of
the few, apparently :-)  )



Cheers

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 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  Interesting thread, this.
 
  I've started geotagging images using Studioline Photo
  Classic, the program I use for cataloging and managing my
  photos.  The program can read data from a portable GPS device
  but as I don't own one I'm manually geotagging.  It's not as
  slow as it sounds but obviously it's not going to be as
  accurate as using a GPS.
 
  I'm interested in getting a GPS device to make the geotagging
  more automatic but have no idea what's available. I'd be
  interested in any suggestions for a basic portable GPS
  device.  Studioline supports .gpx, .nmea and .kml formats.
 
 
  I use a Garmin eTrex H, which is basic and cheap, but suits my needs
  precisely.
 
  https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=8705ra=true
 
  Bob
 
 
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Re: The K7 roadshow came to town today ...

2009-08-10 Thread gldnbearz
I was at the K7 tour at the San Francisco stop today where I ran into
John Celio. Neither of us won the K7. It would be nice if a PDML
member won one.

I got to play with the K7 and found it to my liking with respect to
size (smaller  lighter than Kx0D) and low shutter/mirror noise (John
called it a hamster sneeze).

I also got to play around with several lenses that I would probably
not otherwise be able to handle:
DA 60-250 (I expected it to be bigger)
DA 15 (nice and small),
DA 55 (not sure what I would do with it)
DA 17-70 (much quieter than my 16-45 due to the SDM, but since it is
only SDM, won't work with my *ist DS, more expensive than my 16-45,
still undecided)

Several folks were looking for the FA Limiteds, but they weren't
present, nor was the DA 35 macro.

Here's a small gallery of jpegs straight out of the camera.  It's
mostly an exercise to see how jalbum  dropbox work together.

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1712912/090809-K7_Tour/album/index.html

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10/08/2009, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:

 Another GPS device could be your cell phone. More and more of them does have 
 a GPS built in.

 I have made a small and easy to use gps logger for Windows Mobile 
 smartphones. It log in standard gpx format.

 A version for touch screen based devices are here: 
 http://download.heime.org/GPSlogger_setup.CAB

 And a version for smartphone without touchscreen are here: 
 http://download.heime.org/GPSlogger_Smartphone_setup.CAB


 Both are free to use. I have tested it on HTC phones. My HTC S740 can log for 
 up to 8 hours on a full battery.

Hi Stig,

Very cool, I've got it running on my A702 now. Many phones contain the
same GPS chip sets that the Garmin and other hand held do. My phone
also has provisions for an external antenna so it's not a poor cousin
to a dedicated GPS. Battery longevity is the main issue but this can
be overcome fairly easily when the unit is being used as a logger.

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Re: OT - Especially for my recently unemployed, but

2009-08-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Also, the older you get, in general, the higher the salary you command,
 mainly due to experience, the more likely you'll be replaced by a lower
 salary, less experienced person.

A customer of mine, a large electronics manufacturer, went through a
series of drastic restructuring and rationalization plans in the 80's
and 90's. At one point, they decided that their RD department was way
too expensive with all its 'overpaid' engineers who had been around for
far too many years, wasting money for all the prototyping and fooling
around all day in their expensive test labs.

So, off went the old buggers and their test lab. They were replaced by a
bunch of fresh young engineers from the local university who had learnt
to do their circuit design and testing with modern computers. No more
time and money wasted on prototypes and test labs. Virtual prototyping
was introduced in a hurry to catch up with modern times. 

Shortly afterwards, I got a large order for translating the operating
and service manuals of their new series of PA amplifiers. A few months
later, the same stuff was again on my desk, with major changes in
circuitry and component layout.

What had happened? Those brilliant young engineers had designed the
first amplifiers of their young lives, all with virtual prototyping. No
more than breadboard samples had been built before the whole design was
rushed off for production in the Far East. Short time-to-market was
another of the buzzwords at the time.

When the first production samples arrived back in Europe, they were
humming, buzzing and whistling. What had worked so nicely in their
computer simulation turned out to be a total failure. Apparently, noone
had taught those young wippersnappers that one should rotate the output
transformers by 90 degrees against the mains transformer, that the
latter shouldn't be located right next to the microphone inputs, that
ground connections can't be put just anywhere, and that there's
generally a whole lot of components and stages who make very bad
neighbours and should be kept well apart. The simulation software of the
era didn't know a thing about this, either. 

They had to scrap the whole series, hire some of the old engineers on
part-time contracts and restart from scratch.

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Re: OT - Especially for my recently unemployed, but

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10/08/2009, Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de wrote:

 When the first production samples arrived back in Europe, they were
 humming, buzzing and whistling. What had worked so nicely in their
 computer simulation turned out to be a total failure. Apparently, noone
 had taught those young wippersnappers that one should rotate the output
 transformers by 90 degrees against the mains transformer, that the
 latter shouldn't be located right next to the microphone inputs, that
 ground connections can't be put just anywhere, and that there's
 generally a whole lot of components and stages who make very bad
 neighbours and should be kept well apart. The simulation software of the
 era didn't know a thing about this, either.

LOL, practical experience counts ;-)

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread SV Hovland
:-)

My goal was to keep this program simple and fast and easy to use. But if there 
is anything you want added or fixed, please let me know.

PS. There is a turn of light function in the menu. I saw on my HTC X7500 
phone that it would not turn of light automatically, but it does this 
automatically on my HTC S740.


Stig Vidar


Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] p#229; vegne av Rob 
Studdert 
Emne: Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)


Very cool, I've got it running on my A702 now. Many phones contain the
same GPS chip sets that the Garmin and other hand held do. My phone
also has provisions for an external antenna so it's not a poor cousin
to a dedicated GPS. Battery longevity is the main issue but this can
be overcome fairly easily when the unit is being used as a logger.
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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 10/08/2009, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote:
 :-)

 My goal was to keep this program simple and fast and easy to use. But if 
 there is anything you want added or fixed, please let me know.

 PS. There is a turn of light function in the menu. I saw on my HTC X7500 
 phone that it would not turn of light automatically, but it does this 
 automatically on my HTC S740.

Hi Stig,

Yes I found the light function, nice touch, I like the Sun rise/set
indicator too ;-)

How easy would it be to provide an option to display Long/Lat in
decimal notation?

The other apps I've been using are BeeLineGPS (which is a good
geocaching/tracking logger but doesn't allow map overlays and it has a
Disable automatic power suspend option). The other little one I was
playing with was GPSed, the integrated street nav application is great
in a vehicle but no good for trekking. Fortunately we have choice ;-)

I noticed that the file is autosaved and closed at 1000 log entries
then new file is started. How easy is it to concatenate these files?

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Re: OT - Especially for my recently unemployed, but

2009-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Ken Wallerkwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 Kenneth Waller

 Also, the older you get, in general, the higher the salary you command,
 mainly due to experience, the more likely you'll be replaced by a lower
 salary, less experienced person.

As was I.

They did keep 1-2 experienced field staff and i keep in touch with one
of them. He tells me their job now is mostly going back to surveys the
younger group have done, and fix the mistakes.
They make less than i did, but now they have to do the work twice, or
maybe three times, depending.

I laugh every time i hear that.:-)

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Re: Dream Cruise blog #3 on Times web site

2009-08-10 Thread David J Brooks
Paul, i think thats the best of the three articles. Nice to read the history.

Dave

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/woodward-dream-cruise-beginnings/


 Thanks for all who've had a look at these.
 Just made it back from my shoot in Ohio. Have to crank out another Times
 blog for tomorrow.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread John Mullan
We have to remember that a GPS can really only do one thing, tell you where 
it thinks you are. Anything else that the unit does is purely predictive, 
making a best guess based on certain variables as to how to get you to your 
destination. If it tells you to turn the wrong way on a one-way street, you 
have to be smart enough to recognize the problem.


jm
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On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:57 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

I taught map reading and land navigation in the Army. I do NOT rely on a 
GPS

to tell me where I'm going. I've learned that when the GPS  the paper map
disagree, more often it's the GPS that's wrong ... assuming the GPS can
actually get a signal and it's not stuck somewhere miles behind you.


Thats why i just want to see my start and end points. I have been mis
lead a few times vie  the get directions features.

I can read a map well enough to find my way, if i know were i'm going.

Now, surveying with GPS, great idea, but i still don't trust it.
Besides it eliminates the three man survey crew and its now a one man
crew.
See why i'm a bus driver now.:-)

Dave


My experience is about 25% of men can learn to read a map well enough to
navigate by it.

Same for women, but it takes them longer to get beyond the I'll never be
able to do this stage.



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Re: Dream Cruise blog #3 on Times web site

2009-08-10 Thread Derby Chang

Paul Stenquist wrote:
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/09/woodward-dream-cruise-beginnings/ 




Thanks for all who've had a look at these.
Just made it back from my shoot in Ohio. Have to crank out another 
Times blog for tomorrow.


Paul



These are really wistful, entertaining reads, Paul

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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread Derby Chang

Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the 
inclusion of text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you hover 
your curser over the right side middle of the large frame you get an 
advance arrow.


I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt 
timid.  I used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.  
The RAW frames were noisier than I would have expected, but overall 
execution wasn't at peak, so maybe that accounts for it. Please view 
photo #9 with a sense of humor, guys  :-).



http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/





Oh my. The first one is terrific for obvious reasons, but the 
experiment in the subway is superb. Unexpected and very evocative.


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Re: OT - Especially for my recently unemployed, but

2009-08-10 Thread John Mullan

Don't you mean bi-facial?

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From: Bob Sullivan Subject: Re: OT - Especially for my recently 
unemployed, but




Doesn't that make you two faced Bill?


I prefer the term bipolar.




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Re: OT: Can't keep a good song down

2009-08-10 Thread Derby Chang

Bob W wrote:

Rootling around on Youtube I found these, which I thought might interest
some of the old silverbacks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GBv=RuuOAA9ekbg

Half a century later:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nq_-DHhVOgfeature=related

I've never heard of this before:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sevytMryWvcfeature=related

Bob


  



One thing I distinctly remember as a lad was reading about these 
rareties and dispairing of ever having a hope of hearing them. Now, they 
are all a few clicks away.


Here's another one that was legendary, but never released. I wonder why :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKCfJhW_x8

...and this 8 minute epic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddmU1eYq0U

I love the series of tubes.

D


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Re: OT: Can't keep a good song down

2009-08-10 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 Good stuff. It was the reunion of the 3 fabs I hadn't heard about before.

Speaking of which: the Belgians now have those automatic radar devices
all over the country with a digital display showing your speed and the
mention You're driving at ... km/h.

Now, there's a new variety which just says Prudence and indicates your
speed.

Three guesses what song keeps haunting me all day whenever I'm driving
around Belgium lately.

Ralf

P.S.: I could still slap myself for not taking a photo of the one saying
You're driving at 9600.N.1.

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Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf
Web   : http://www.fotoralf.de

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Re: OT - Especially for my recently unemployed, but

2009-08-10 Thread John Sessoms
I have found a lot of what is in that article to be  true. As I age, and I 
am older.


Basically, it can be summarized up like  this -- The older you get the 
less shit you'll put up with. Heh. 

Very,  very true (i.e. avoiding stressful situations). 

The key is experience.  The more experience you have the more you know what 
types of people will  probably rile you up, the more you can foresee when 
sticky situations might  happen, and the more you know about how to side step 
both.


I too have found that as I age I'm getting older.  ;-D

I've actually been thinking about the types of people who don't so much 
rile me up as just get on my nerves.


Teenage girls.

When I got to a certain (fairly young) age I discovered I'd become 
invisible to young women.


As I reached another certain age I discovered I was cool with that, it 
didn't matter to me that I was invisible to young women.


Recently I've reached the age where I'd just as soon the young women 
would make themselves invisible whenever I'm around ... or at least go 
somewhere I don't have to deal with 'em.


And especially I wished they'd go where I wouldn't have to deal with the 
consequences of them printing 1000 or more images from a single 512MB 
memory card and then whining at me because the images look like shit.



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FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

*sigh*

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Boris Liberman

Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble



Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

*sigh*


Look at all the trouble DP Review had in aquiring a good copy of the 
DA*55/1.4.
Seriously though, Pentax appears to be treating quality control as a 
consumer responsibility, with little or no QC being done during the 
manufactuing process.
It wouldn't be so bad were it not for their lack of visibility in stores 
making it necessary to buy their product via mail order and then forcing the 
customer to deal with return methods that are inconvenient, expensive and 
time consuming.
I had hoped that their recent jacking up of prices would have a 
coressponding relationship to quality control, as when one pays more money 
for something, there is an expectation of increased quality.


William Robb


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
You may have been wrong assuming that increase of price is caused the
increase of investement on the part of the manufacturer, as this is
exactly not how it appears from where I stand. I am not very tempted
to cancel my order for K-7 in Israel as the cherry picking process can
become real big pain in the lower behind...

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:15 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman
 Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble


 Hi guys.

 After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
 50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
 Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
 is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
 going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
 is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

 *sigh*

 Look at all the trouble DP Review had in aquiring a good copy of the
 DA*55/1.4.
 Seriously though, Pentax appears to be treating quality control as a
 consumer responsibility, with little or no QC being done during the
 manufactuing process.
 It wouldn't be so bad were it not for their lack of visibility in stores
 making it necessary to buy their product via mail order and then forcing the
 customer to deal with return methods that are inconvenient, expensive and
 time consuming.
 I had hoped that their recent jacking up of prices would have a
 coressponding relationship to quality control, as when one pays more money
 for something, there is an expectation of increased quality.

 William Robb


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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
I finally got this to work... (that is,  viewing it  I cant just click 
on it in from my mail set up _ have to copy and paste into firefox)


Before I forget the photos... I love number 8 the experiment

I like the integration of text and pics...  but not crazy about how one 
has to view it...


(that's just me and my reaction to the current trends  - mousing over 
is not something I can
do well so anything that requires it gets in the way...(I've tried to 
eliminate that from my site altogether

but it wont go away from other places or on my puter ...

It was hard to go back to a previous page/setI doubt this has 
anything ot do with how you have done your

end of it... just the overall software stuff.

Nice little essay on the area...  not the Belmont street of my childhood 
I see! LOL


ann


Christine Aguila wrote:



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Subject: Re: GESO Street Walk



In a message dated 8/9/2009 1:04:40 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
cagu...@earthlink.net writes:
Hi Everyone:

I'd be  interested in knowing if you like the interface and the 
inclusion

of
text  here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you hover your curser over
the
right side middle of the large frame you get an advance arrow.

I  really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt 
timid. I


used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.  The RAW  
frames
were noisier than I would have expected, but overall execution 
wasn't  at
peak, so maybe that accounts for it. Please view photo #9 with a 
sense of

humor, guys   :-).


http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/

Comments and  critique welcome.
Cheers, Christine


===
Some very  nice shots here. I like the guy texting and the ball throwing
concession stand  the best. Good night shots.



Thanks, Marnie!



Don't mind the text at all.



Good to know.  Cheers, Christine


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RE: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell
I would do a bracketed focus test, focussing initially
normally, but then a series of manually focussed in front
of and behind the initial focus. Maybe the focus screen
is out of whack? Maybe not, just a bad lens. But you need
to shoot the bracketed focus to confirm its not the camera/screen
to be sure.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Boris Liberman
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:05 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble


Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA 50/1.4
for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in Vietnam.
Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens is soft at
f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is going back to
BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This is something that
should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

*sigh*

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Re: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/9/2009 6:18:48 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
pentaxl...@gmail.com writes:
Lightroom will allow for  displaying a Googlemaps page with location if
Iclick on the GPS coords in  metadata.

All in all, very happy with my purchase. Very easy to use and  very useful.

Regards,

PS: this tutorial may get your  interest:
http://www.gavingough.com/workshops/online-tutorials/adding-gps-geodata-in-l
ightroom/

PS2:  some car GPS devices can be hacked as to keep a tracklog even if
they are not  supposed to.
-- 
Thibault Massart aka  Thibouille

==
Totally cool. Wonder what software there is  for the PC (not Mac)? I didn't 
know LR would do that.

I know, I'll read  the rest of the thread and see if anyone suggests 
anything. Heh.

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
John, I am sorry to tell you, but both my DA 21/3.2 (with me here)
focuses perfectly and that my focusing screen is just fine. Also, if
you shoot from like 10 meters at f/8, the DOF has to be reasonable,
whereas I don't see a single piece of the area allegedly in focus that
is actually there. This lens is out of whack and back it goes to BH.
I will solve it in a different way. Meanwhile, Galia will be shooting
with one of the lenses that I have that I know are working fine.



On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, J.C. O'Connellhifis...@gate.net wrote:
 I would do a bracketed focus test, focussing initially
 normally, but then a series of manually focussed in front
 of and behind the initial focus. Maybe the focus screen
 is out of whack? Maybe not, just a bad lens. But you need
 to shoot the bracketed focus to confirm its not the camera/screen
 to be sure.
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 Boris Liberman
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:05 AM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble


 Hi guys.

 After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA 50/1.4
 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in Vietnam.
 Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens is soft at
 f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is going back to
 BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This is something that
 should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

 *sigh*

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:57:26 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
dm...@bluemoon.net.nz writes:
I'm amused by the fact  that men have a reputation of never using a map  
or asking  directions.  But put the map and directions into an  
electronic  gizmo and it's an entirely different story.

Dave

=
That  irony has struck me several times too.

But it makes sense, doesn't  it?

Marnie aka Doe :-)  (Boys and their Toys.  Heh.)
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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/9/2009 9:13:51 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
jehosep...@mindspring.com writes:
John Sessoms  wrote:

 My experience is about 25% of men can learn to read a map  well enough to 
  navigate by it.

The day I really started  enjoying maps was when I figured out how to 
visualize a topo map as a 3D  environment, when I was a kid.  Since then, 
I've been a map  junkie.

-- 
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My Dad  got us reading maps young. On family trips, one of us read the map 
while he  drove. Since then I've heard a lot of people do this (or did 
this). However,  I've never done it while out in the wild backpacking or 
something. Though I  don't think it's that hard to determine north.

So I've never seen the  difficulty in reading a map. My car is fully 
stocked and when I plan to go  somewhere I don't have a map for, I get one 
beforehand or get one first thing  when I arrive there. I simply don't travel 
without a map. Directions people give  me are too imprecise and even when they 
give me directions I look up their  directions on a map.

I have had great difficulty seeing why I need a GPS  in my car. (Money is 
better spent on other things, like cameras and  stuff.)

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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RE: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread J.C. O'Connell
well, if Pentax is really putting out as many bad lenses as
been reported lately, it really is bad news. This is just
another reason why I like the older screw, K, and A
lenses. The quality on those series is remarkably consistant.

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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Boris Liberman
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:44 AM
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Subject: Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble


John, I am sorry to tell you, but both my DA 21/3.2 (with me here)
focuses perfectly and that my focusing screen is just fine. Also, if you
shoot from like 10 meters at f/8, the DOF has to be reasonable, whereas
I don't see a single piece of the area allegedly in focus that is
actually there. This lens is out of whack and back it goes to BH. I
will solve it in a different way. Meanwhile, Galia will be shooting with
one of the lenses that I have that I know are working fine.



On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:39 AM, J.C. O'Connellhifis...@gate.net
wrote:
 I would do a bracketed focus test, focussing initially normally, but 
 then a series of manually focussed in front of and behind the initial 
 focus. Maybe the focus screen is out of whack? Maybe not, just a bad 
 lens. But you need to shoot the bracketed focus to confirm its not the

 camera/screen to be sure.
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 Of Boris Liberman
 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:05 AM
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 Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble


 Hi guys.

 After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA 
 50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in 
 Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens 
 is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is 
 going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This 
 is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

 *sigh*

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Re: ping

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/9/2009 5:29:48 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
jsessoms...@nc.rr.com writes:
 Once I rented Pirates of  the Caribbean and tried to watch it on my  
 Mac, with a licensed  and legal DVD player software. But it didn't  
 work. That is the  annoying part of the fact that paranoid companies  
 are in control  of those specs and can do almost whatever they want.
 
 Yeah, I  think that preventing copying on a perfect copy machine is  
  impossible and trying to do so, is a lost cause and a huge waste of   
 money. Which we, as good and honest customers, have to pay.

Is  Pirates ... one of those that tries to install its own player 
software  when you insert it? I sometimes have problems with those.

I won't install  the new player and they don't seem to like the one I  use.


I've never been able to successfully copy any movie  Johnny Depp was in. 

So I don't think it's the encryption method, it's  Depp.

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Re: PESO 2009 - 128 - GDG

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/8/2009 10:25:22 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ramar...@mac.com writes:
From my 'round the USA' car  trip in 2006 ...

http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/128-roadside-forest

Comments always  appreciated, thanks for looking.

enjoy
Godfrey
http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com

==
Very nice, I like  it.

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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Try 'mousing over' on a touchscreen like an iPhone - then you'll
really see what a pain that technique is.

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Monday, August 10, 2009, 8:30:26 AM, you wrote:

snip
as (that's just me and my reaction to the current trends  - mousing over
as is not something I can
as do well so anything that requires it gets in the way...(I've tried to 
as eliminate that from my site altogether
as but it wont go away from other places or on my puter ...

as ann






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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling
Welcome to your new position at Pentax Quality Control.  You won't won't 
get paid, won't even be supplied with human resources' phone number, let 
alone a direct line to a production engineer, but you can end the day 
with a warm glow from a job well done.


Boris Liberman wrote:

Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

*sigh*

  



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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling

William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: Boris Liberman
Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble



Hi guys.

After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

*sigh*


Look at all the trouble DP Review had in aquiring a good copy of the 
DA*55/1.4.
Seriously though, Pentax appears to be treating quality control as a 
consumer responsibility, with little or no QC being done during the 
manufactuing process.
It wouldn't be so bad were it not for their lack of visibility in 
stores making it necessary to buy their product via mail order and 
then forcing the customer to deal with return methods that are 
inconvenient, expensive and time consuming.
I had hoped that their recent jacking up of prices would have a 
coressponding relationship to quality control, as when one pays more 
money for something, there is an expectation of increased quality.


William Robb

Well it's not like most other manufacturers of consumer products are 
doing a lot better.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/8/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 Dave, take a screen grab (command+shift+3 on the mac) and print the
  resulting picture.

Quadruple-bucky-cokebottle?

On 8/8/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dave,
  Like Cotty says, try a 'screen print' (button on the upper right of my 
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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
It should read I am *now* very tempted to cancel my order for K-7...

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 You may have been wrong assuming that increase of price is caused the
 increase of investement on the part of the manufacturer, as this is
 exactly not how it appears from where I stand. I am not very tempted
 to cancel my order for K-7 in Israel as the cherry picking process can
 become real big pain in the lower behind...

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:15 AM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman
 Subject: FA 50/1.4 trouble


 Hi guys.

 After some deliberation I decided to shell $250 for brand new FA
 50/1.4 for my daughter. It arrived some days ago, and it says made in
 Vietnam. Now, I don't have anything against it except that this lens
 is soft at f/8 outdoors focused manually by the split screen. It is
 going back to BH but honestly, I am very disheartened by this. This
 is something that should be just flawless, but it is anything but(t).

 *sigh*

 Look at all the trouble DP Review had in aquiring a good copy of the
 DA*55/1.4.
 Seriously though, Pentax appears to be treating quality control as a
 consumer responsibility, with little or no QC being done during the
 manufactuing process.
 It wouldn't be so bad were it not for their lack of visibility in stores
 making it necessary to buy their product via mail order and then forcing the
 customer to deal with return methods that are inconvenient, expensive and
 time consuming.
 I had hoped that their recent jacking up of prices would have a
 coressponding relationship to quality control, as when one pays more money
 for something, there is an expectation of increased quality.

 William Robb


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Re: ping

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
pingety ping, popety pop ;-)

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Bob Wp...@web-options.com wrote:
 again


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Re: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-10 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:

On 9/8/09, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:


If you check the link, it starts at sleeps 14  (I think) and goes down 



from there.  Sleeps 14 however, costs £1300 for the week.


This one is nice - available and £785 - 4 bedrooms, 5 adults max, sleeps
8, yards from beach :-)

http://www.northumbria-cottages.co.uk/cgi-bin/database/pas.cgi?
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PESO 2009 - 130 - GDG

2009-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

I love the fog.

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/130-fence-yard-and-fog

Comments always welcome, thanks for looking!

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RE: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Bob W
[...]
 So I've never seen the  difficulty in reading a map. My car 
 is fully stocked and when I plan to go  somewhere I don't 
 have a map for, I get one beforehand or get one first thing  
 when I arrive there. I simply don't travel without a map. 
 Directions people give  me are too imprecise and even when 
 they give me directions I look up their  directions on a map.
 
 I have had great difficulty seeing why I need a GPS  in my 
 car. (Money is better spent on other things, like cameras and  stuff.)

When you get off the road and out into the countryside following a map is a
lot more difficult. The main difficulty is figuring out where you are if you
do go astray. For example, I always get lost if I'm trying to navigate
through woods. When I emerge on the other side it's difficult to figure out
where I am unless there are some really obvious reference points that are
unambiguous on the map. That's what a GPS brings to it - click a button and
you know where you are to within a few meters, and can use the map for the
rest. 

A handlebar-mounted GPS is also good for cycling if you're following a route
you've planned into the device - you don't have to stop so often to check
the map.

Bob


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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread mike wilson

Boris Liberman wrote:


You may have been wrong assuming that increase of price is caused the
increase of investement on the part of the manufacturer, as this is
exactly not how it appears from where I stand. I am not very tempted
to cancel my order for K-7 in Israel as the cherry picking process can
become real big pain in the lower behind...


When it gets to be a pain in the upper one you should _really_ worry.

8-)

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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Boris Liberman
I saw it coming from you, Mike, sir ;-). The middle section is not
covered yet, but I am sure it will be ;-).

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Boris Liberman wrote:

 You may have been wrong assuming that increase of price is caused the
 increase of investement on the part of the manufacturer, as this is
 exactly not how it appears from where I stand. I am not very tempted
 to cancel my order for K-7 in Israel as the cherry picking process can
 become real big pain in the lower behind...

 When it gets to be a pain in the upper one you should _really_ worry.

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Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...  

I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  



http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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RE: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Desjardins, Steve
I like the entire gallery, but especially the two Marilyns.

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poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...  

I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  


http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele

Bruce,  I would never in my life use an Iphone so I'm safe there!

:-)
ann

Bruce Dayton wrote:


Try 'mousing over' on a touchscreen like an iPhone - then you'll
really see what a pain that technique is.


Best regards, Bruce Monday, August 10, 2009, 8:30:26 AM, you wrote:
--


snip
 


as (that's just me and my reaction to the current trends  - mousing over
as is not something I can do well..





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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele
thanks Steve -- I thought it was two Madonna's ... something about the 
eyes in the one on the right..

Maybe I have ot go back and look at that wall again!

ann

Desjardins, Steve wrote:


I like the entire gallery, but especially the two Marilyns.

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poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...  

I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  



http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: PESO 2009 - 130 - GDG

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele

me too
and I'm liking your blog a lot, Godders...
despite the abundance of white screen on left and right...
which is hard on my old eyes

ann

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


I love the fog.

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/130-fence-yard-and-fog

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Jack Davis
Like the color shot and gallery, but the BW doesn't open for me.(?)

Jack

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 Subject: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:56 AM
 poking around in stuff I took a year
 or so ago...  
 I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
 
 
 
 
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RE: Northumbrian coast PDML meet

2009-08-10 Thread Bob W
   This one is nice - available and £785 - 4 bedrooms, 5 adults max, 
  sleeps 8, yards from beach :-)
  
  http://www.northumbria-cottages.co.uk/cgi-bin/database/pas.cgi?
  code=BOATHcod=5
 
 ~£200 per bedroom for a week.  Looks like the two non-family 
 rooms sleep two each.  Anyone else interested for the week 
 starting 23/10/09?
 

I can't do a week, but I could probably do a long weekend.

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RE: OT: Can't keep a good song down

2009-08-10 Thread Bob W
 
 
 One thing I distinctly remember as a lad was reading about 
 these rareties and dispairing of ever having a hope of 
 hearing them. Now, they are all a few clicks away.
 
 Here's another one that was legendary, but never released. I 
 wonder why :P
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixKCfJhW_x8
 

That's like a parody of Syd Barrett (which probably means it's a parroty...)

 ...and this 8 minute epic
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yddmU1eYq0U
 
 I love the series of tubes.

An easy way to waste your life, following all the alleys and byways.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Aug 10, 2009, at 09:46 , Scott Loveless wrote:


On 8/8/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


Dave, take a screen grab (command+shift+3 on the mac) and print the
resulting picture.


Quadruple-bucky-cokebottle?


There's an App for that. Called Grab.



On 8/8/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

Dave,
Like Cotty says, try a 'screen print' (button on the upper right of  
my keyboard.


That's more like it.


Except you get the whole screen when all you want is part of a window,  
eh?


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Charles Robinson

On Aug 10, 2009, at 15:37, Joseph McAllister wrote:



On Aug 10, 2009, at 09:46 , Scott Loveless wrote:


On 8/8/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


Dave, take a screen grab (command+shift+3 on the mac) and print the
resulting picture.


Quadruple-bucky-cokebottle?


There's an App for that. Called Grab.



SnapNDrag is also good for this.  Free and flexible.  The mystery, tie- 
your-fingers-into-knots combinations for MacOS are puzzlingly bizarre.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/10/09, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

  On Aug 10, 2009, at 09:46 , Scott Loveless wrote:


  On 8/8/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 
  
   Dave, take a screen grab (command+shift+3 on the mac) and print the
   resulting picture.
  
 
  Quadruple-bucky-cokebottle?
 

  There's an App for that. Called Grab.


 
  On 8/8/09, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Dave,
   Like Cotty says, try a 'screen print' (button on the upper right of my
 keyboard.
  
 
  That's more like it.
 

  Except you get the whole screen when all you want is part of a window, eh?

ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where the
PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Joseph McAllister
On  
Aug 10, 2009, at 13:59 , Charles Robinson wrote:


 The mystery, tie-your-fingers-into-knots combinations for MacOS are  
puzzlingly bizarre.


There's really only one that is not that easy, and that's to reset the  
parameter ram. Control-Option-P-R right after you restart the  
machine.  Until I figured out how  
to use my left hand for Option-R and my right hand for Control-P. Has  
a nice symmetry to it. . °  °  .  I guess it helps  
that Mac keyboards have their own symmetry, i.e.

Control Option Apple  Space Bar   Apple Option Control

Apple = Alt to youz guys...  :-)

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Re: PESO 2009 - 130 - GDG

2009-08-10 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, ann sanfedeleann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 me too
 and I'm liking your blog a lot, Godders...
 despite the abundance of white screen on left and right...
 which is hard on my old eyes

 I love the fog.

  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/130-fence-yard-and-fog

Thanks Ann.

Hmm. I always prefer black text on white surround: white text on black
surround hurts my eyes. And I always mat my photos against light gray
to white mat board...

If the white gutters are a bit bright for you when reading, you can
narrow the window down to eliminate a lot of it. When you click on the
photo, it enlarges and the surrounding is shaded down with a light
gray overlay for better viewing.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where the
PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.

Hey, when your PC is frozen solid with virii, I'll still be twisting my
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Re: FA 50/1.4 trouble

2009-08-10 Thread Sasha Sobol
Old Pentax lenses are of exceptional build quality.
New ones are also great (next thing I will buy will be 50-250mm, not
sure when though), but there are some bad samples.
It happens embarrassingly often.
Same with bodies: my second copy of K7 works flawlessly so far...

--Sasha

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com wrote:
 I saw it coming from you, Mike, sir ;-). The middle section is not
 covered yet, but I am sure it will be ;-).

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, mike wilsonm.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 Boris Liberman wrote:

 You may have been wrong assuming that increase of price is caused the
 increase of investement on the part of the manufacturer, as this is
 exactly not how it appears from where I stand. I am not very tempted
 to cancel my order for K-7 in Israel as the cherry picking process can
 become real big pain in the lower behind...

 When it gets to be a pain in the upper one you should _really_ worry.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread steve harley

they whom i call Joseph McAllister wrote:
On Aug 
10, 2009, at 13:59 , Charles Robinson wrote:


 The mystery, tie-your-fingers-into-knots combinations for MacOS are 
puzzlingly bizarre.


There's really only one that is not that easy, and that's to reset the 
parameter ram. Control-Option-P-R 


it's actually command-option-p-r (still two-handed)



.  I guess it helps that Mac keyboards have their own symmetry, i.e.
Control Option Apple  Space Bar   Apple Option Control


it is now (symmetrical), but the right option key used to be 
enter on Apple laptops, and i miss it



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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread steve harley

they whom i call Charles Robinson wrote:
The mystery, 
tie-your-fingers-into-knots combinations for MacOS are puzzlingly bizarre.


they aren't mnemonic, but if you use them a lot they become 
second nature:


cmd-shift 4, draw a rectangle with the mouse to snap part of screen

cmd-shift-4, then press spacebar, to snap any window or menu (and 
that includes windows that aren't in front)


type screenshot or take picture of screen into Mac Help for 
reference


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/10/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 10/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:


  ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where the
  PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
  So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.


 Hey, when your PC is frozen solid with virii, I'll still be twisting my
  fingers ;-)

Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.
Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:16:58 PM, you wrote:

SL On 8/10/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 10/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:


  ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where the
  PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
  So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.


 Hey, when your PC is frozen solid with virii, I'll still be twisting my
  fingers ;-)

SL Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
SL has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
SL I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.
SL Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.

Everything has a set of issues - just a matter of picking your poison
and then trying to convince everyone else that yours is less
poisonous. grin



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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium

I had a chance of buying that one, but we didn't agree on the price.

The bridge, not the photo...
:-)

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Cotty
On 10/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.

...and having finger surgery

Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.

I'll pray for you in the Mac way ;)




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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Doug Franklin

Bob W wrote:


When you get off the road and out into the countryside following a map is a
lot more difficult. The main difficulty is figuring out where you are if you
do go astray.


That's when it's helpful to be able to visualize the terrain features 
depicted on the map and match them up with the terrain features around 
you.  I don't think it's something that can easily be taught, other than 
by taking someone to a spot, handing them a good topo map of the area, 
and pointing out the real terrain on the one hand and the map's 
depiction of that same terrain on the other.  At the end, it seems like 
the map reader largely has to figure out how to do it on their own, and 
some folks just don't seem to think visually.


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Re: PESO 2009 - 130 - GDG

2009-08-10 Thread Igor Roshchin

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

   http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/130-fence-yard-and-fog

 Comments always welcome, thanks for looking!

Godfrey, - 

It looks like your film fogged up... 
It must've been the radiation from NASA... :-)

Igor


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Joseph McAllister


On Aug 10, 2009, at 15:16 , Scott Loveless wrote:


On 8/10/09, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 10/8/09, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:


ALT + PRTSC will copy the active window.  Or, on my laptop, where  
the

PRTSC button is combined with the INSERT key, I also have to hit FN.
So we're back to quadruple-bucky-hole-in-the-head.



Hey, when your PC is frozen solid with virii, I'll still be  
twisting my

fingers ;-)


Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.
Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.



When OS 10.6 comes out next month sometime, it's 64 bit architecture  
will run on any Intel based Mac going back to 2006. Gonna make  
Photoshop and Lightroom and Aperture scream. Although all Mac  
Photoshop users will have to wait for PS CS5 to get the good 64 bit  
code.



Joseph McAllister
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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele

try it now...

I was hiding a photo in the gallery and clicked on the wrong one :(


ann

Jack Davis wrote:


Like the color shot and gallery, but the BW doesn't open for me.(?)

Jack

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From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
Subject: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:56 AM
poking around in stuff I took a year
or so ago...  
I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  


http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele



Igor Roshchin wrote:


http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
   



I had a chance of buying that one, but we didn't agree on the price.


yeah, I know how that is...



The bridge, not the photo...
:-)

Igor
 


You STILL have a chance to buy the photo, however

:-)

ann




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Why engineers never score

2009-08-10 Thread Bob W
Would you like to come upstairs and see my miniaturised silicon ring
resonator?

But perhaps they should:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Jack Davis
OK, got it. I, also, prefer the BW. More to do with shape and form.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 4:23 PM
 try it now...
 
 I was hiding a photo in the gallery and clicked on the
 wrong one :(
 
 
 ann
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
 
 Like the color shot and gallery, but the BW
 doesn't open for me.(?)
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Mon, 8/10/09, ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 wrote:
 
   
 
 From: ann sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com
 Subject: Peso:  Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 11:56 AM
 poking around in stuff I took a year
 or so ago...  
 I _think_ I prefer the  BW.  
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium
 
 
 
 
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 http://stores.lulu.com/annsan
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-10 Thread John Celio
Yesterday at the SF stop of the Pentax K-7 Viral Tour, someone asked why it 
was so hard to find Pentax equipment in local stores.  One of the reps said 
they were actively working to correct that, and gave two heartening 
examples.


1.  Keeble  Shuchat, a big pro camera shop in San Jose was now stocking the 
K-7 and new lenses (a former coworker of mine who works there now had told 
me last winter they were dropping Pentax, so this is a nice about-face), and 
supposedly other camera shops are doing the same.  I suppose your local 
mileage may vary, but this can only be a good sign in general.


2.  Fry's Electronics, a (mostly) west coast chain of GIANT electronics 
stores, is now carrying the K-7 and accessories.  This is awesome for a 
couple reasons.  First, in a recession, lots of people go to places like 
Fry's to find deals, so the K-7 will get a little more exposure there. 
Second, when the day comes that I can afford my own K-7 (I have a K-7 poster 
on the wall now as motivation), I'll be able to buy it locally.  I much 
prefer that to ordering from the east coast.


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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,
There is a local Fry's here in Chicago, near me.
John Carlson said the same at GRM in June.
The midwest guy was working to get into Fry's.
Hope it makes it to my store.
Regards, Bob S.

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 Yesterday at the SF stop of the Pentax K-7 Viral Tour, someone asked why it
 was so hard to find Pentax equipment in local stores.  One of the reps said
 they were actively working to correct that, and gave two heartening
 examples.

 1.  Keeble  Shuchat, a big pro camera shop in San Jose was now stocking the
 K-7 and new lenses (a former coworker of mine who works there now had told
 me last winter they were dropping Pentax, so this is a nice about-face), and
 supposedly other camera shops are doing the same.  I suppose your local
 mileage may vary, but this can only be a good sign in general.

 2.  Fry's Electronics, a (mostly) west coast chain of GIANT electronics
 stores, is now carrying the K-7 and accessories.  This is awesome for a
 couple reasons.  First, in a recession, lots of people go to places like
 Fry's to find deals, so the K-7 will get a little more exposure there.
 Second, when the day comes that I can afford my own K-7 (I have a K-7 poster
 on the wall now as motivation), I'll be able to buy it locally.  I much
 prefer that to ordering from the east coast.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:16:58PM -0400, Scott Loveless scripsit:
 Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
 has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
 I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.
 Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.

Ur, why?

So far as I can tell, between ufraw and (gimp|cinepaint) there isn't
actually anything *missing*, and the core things -- like unsharp mask --
work really well.

This may be my lack of experience with either photoshop or lightroom
talking, but they're not cheap, have weird upgrade issues when new
cameras come out, and just generally don't strike me as essential.

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why I am a fossil

2009-08-10 Thread Bran Everseeking

I never, or almost never, remember that i can change the sensitivity of
the sensor when i am shooting.

I was wishing i had the ND filters earlier.  800 iso   sigh

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Re: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Very nice, Ann.  I prefer the BW by a lot.  Great work.  Love the 
composition.  Cheers, Christine





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poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...
I _think_ I prefer the  BW.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Ann.
Just FYI:  to go back, you can hover in the same middle area,  but only on 
the left side.
A few years ago, there used to be quite a GOTH presence on the street in 
this area.  The young GOTHS used hang and pose etc in large numbers--not 
that much the other night.


Cheers, Christine


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I finally got this to work... (that is,  viewing it  I cant just click on 
it in from my mail set up _ have to copy and paste into firefox)


Before I forget the photos... I love number 8 the experiment






I like the integration of text and pics...  but not crazy about how one 
has to view it...


(that's just me and my reaction to the current trends  - mousing over is 
not something I can
do well so anything that requires it gets in the way...(I've tried to 
eliminate that from my site altogether

but it wont go away from other places or on my puter ...

It was hard to go back to a previous page/setI doubt this has anything 
ot do with how you have done your

end of it... just the overall software stuff.





Nice little essay on the area...  not the Belmont street of my childhood I 
see! LOL






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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Derby.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the inclusion 
of text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you hover your curser 
over the right side middle of the large frame you get an advance arrow.


I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt timid. 
I used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.  The RAW 
frames were noisier than I would have expected, but overall execution 
wasn't at peak, so maybe that accounts for it. Please view photo #9 with 
a sense of humor, guys  :-).



http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/





Oh my. The first one is terrific for obvious reasons, but the experiment 
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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Bruce Dayton
Monday, August 10, 2009, 3:49:18 PM, you wrote:

DF Bob W wrote:

 When you get off the road and out into the countryside following a map is a
 lot more difficult. The main difficulty is figuring out where you are if you
 do go astray.

DF That's when it's helpful to be able to visualize the terrain features
DF depicted on the map and match them up with the terrain features around
DF you.  I don't think it's something that can easily be taught, other than
DF by taking someone to a spot, handing them a good topo map of the area,
DF and pointing out the real terrain on the one hand and the map's 
DF depiction of that same terrain on the other.  At the end, it seems like
DF the map reader largely has to figure out how to do it on their own, and
DF some folks just don't seem to think visually.

Of course, this 'visualizing' thing doesn't work too well in
Kansas...no terrain features.



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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling
It may just be the interface, but in my opinion PS 7.0 is a better 
package with better color management on a PC than even the latest 
version of The Gimp.  Yes, Photoshop is expensive and no version of CS 
will install on my OS of choice, (though it looks more and more that 
I'll have to byte the bullet so to speak), but I'd not say that the Gimp 
compares to Photoshop until I actually tried Photoshop...


Graydon wrote:

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:16:58PM -0400, Scott Loveless scripsit:
  

Linux here, fanboi.  When your Mac is two months old and Steve Jobs
has determined that the new OSX won't run on your ancient hardware,
I'll still be plugging along while you're emptying your wallet.
Photoshop or Lightroom would sure be nice, though.  Oh, well.



Ur, why?

So far as I can tell, between ufraw and (gimp|cinepaint) there isn't
actually anything *missing*, and the core things -- like unsharp mask --
work really well.

This may be my lack of experience with either photoshop or lightroom
talking, but they're not cheap, have weird upgrade issues when new
cameras come out, and just generally don't strike me as essential.

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax in Fry's, other stores?

2009-08-10 Thread Doug Franklin

John Celio wrote:

2.  Fry's Electronics, a (mostly) west coast chain of GIANT electronics 
stores, is now carrying the K-7 and accessories.  This is awesome for a 
couple reasons.  


Later this week I have to go to the Alpharetta, GA, location of Fry's, 
so I'll see if they have them in stock.  I've seen a couple of Pentax 
cameras in there before, K100Ds I think.  I don't recall ever seeing a 
Pentax lens there, however.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Doug Franklin

Bruce Dayton wrote:


Of course, this 'visualizing' thing doesn't work too well in
Kansas...no terrain features.


There's almost always /something/ in an inhabited area.  If you've got 
the right maps, they'll include individual buildings and the like, in 
addition to roads and terrain features.  Yeah, it's a lot easier to get 
lost, and a lot harder to correlate the sights with the map, but it is 
doable. (Maybe not by /me/, though :-) )  I've known some amazing 
orienteers over the years.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Rob Studdert
On 11/08/2009, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:

 There's almost always /something/ in an inhabited area.  If you've got the
 right maps, they'll include individual buildings and the like, in addition
 to roads and terrain features.  Yeah, it's a lot easier to get lost, and a
 lot harder to correlate the sights with the map, but it is doable. (Maybe
 not by /me/, though :-) )  I've known some amazing orienteers over the
 years.

So much Aussie bush that I traverse has next to no man made points of
reference and such limited visibility that even geo contours are nigh
on impossible to follow. GPS helps, I guess the guys who put it up
there thought so also ;-)

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Re: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread paul stenquist

Well seen. A very dramatic shot. I too like the BW.
Paul

On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Very nice, Ann.  I prefer the BW by a lot.  Great work.  Love the  
composition.  Cheers, Christine





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poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago...
I _think_ I prefer the  BW.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread paul stenquist

Love the motorcycle pic and the legs shot. Fun stuff.
Paul
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Thanks, Derby.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the  
inclusion of text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you  
hover your curser over the right side middle of the large frame  
you get an advance arrow.


I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt  
timid. I used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.   
The RAW frames were noisier than I would have expected, but  
overall execution wasn't at peak, so maybe that accounts for it.  
Please view photo #9 with a sense of humor, guys  :-).



http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/





Oh my. The first one is terrific for obvious reasons, but the  
experiment in the subway is superb. Unexpected and very evocative.


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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread P. J. Alling
GPS was designed for automated delivery systems to put their packages 
within a 10 foot radius.  The delivery systems go by various names but 
mostly tomahawk, and the packages mostly go boom. Your use of the system 
was an afterthought.


Rob Studdert wrote:

On 11/08/2009, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote:

  

There's almost always /something/ in an inhabited area.  If you've got the
right maps, they'll include individual buildings and the like, in addition
to roads and terrain features.  Yeah, it's a lot easier to get lost, and a
lot harder to correlate the sights with the map, but it is doable. (Maybe
not by /me/, though :-) )  I've known some amazing orienteers over the
years.



So much Aussie bush that I traverse has next to no man made points of
reference and such limited visibility that even geo contours are nigh
on impossible to follow. GPS helps, I guess the guys who put it up
there thought so also ;-)

  



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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:50:20PM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 GPS was designed for automated delivery systems to put their packages
 within a 10 foot radius.  The delivery systems go by various names but
 mostly tomahawk, and the packages mostly go boom. Your use of the
 system  was an afterthought.

It was also intended as an ocean navigation replacement for LORAN and
other, similar systems; one of the precision drivers was wanting the
ship to stay in the channel.  (Very embarrassing when your navigational
fix is off by 50 m and you put a carrier on a mud bank.)

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Bob Sullivan
I thought GPS was an outgrowth of the LORAN system with more precision
for the submarine launched Polaris missles.  Smaller warheads
necessitate more accuracy.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Graydono...@uniserve.com wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:50:20PM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 GPS was designed for automated delivery systems to put their packages
 within a 10 foot radius.  The delivery systems go by various names but
 mostly tomahawk, and the packages mostly go boom. Your use of the
 system  was an afterthought.

 It was also intended as an ocean navigation replacement for LORAN and
 other, similar systems; one of the precision drivers was wanting the
 ship to stay in the channel.  (Very embarrassing when your navigational
 fix is off by 50 m and you put a carrier on a mud bank.)

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Doug Brewer

ann sanfedele wrote:
poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... 
I _think_ I prefer the  BW. 


http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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I'm gonna go with the B/W, Ann. The color kind of messes with the view.

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Re: Really OT Google maps

2009-08-10 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:29:07PM -0500, Bob Sullivan scripsit:
 I thought GPS was an outgrowth of the LORAN system with more precision
 for the submarine launched Polaris missles.  Smaller warheads
 necessitate more accuracy.

Well, this is true of smaller warheads, but subs aren't necessarily able
to take a fix from a satellite system at all, nor would they expect to
have time to do so before launch.  So far as I know -- which isn't very
far -- no ballistic system relies on GPS for navigational inputs.

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread ann sanfedele

Christine, Paul, Doug -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I don't trust myself :-)

thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the color one out lol

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:


ann sanfedele wrote:

poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... I _think_ I prefer 
the  BW.

http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium




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I'm gonna go with the B/W, Ann. The color kind of messes with the view.

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GESO - Huntington

2009-08-10 Thread Doug Brewer
Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out and 
to eat at Hillbilly Hot Dogs, a sort of trash art dive outside 
Huntington. Here are a few of the photos I made on the trip.


http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html

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Re: Peso: Brooklyn Bridge DUMBO area

2009-08-10 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 8/10/2009 9:04:47 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
Christine, Paul, Doug  -

I was leaning toward the bw strongly, but sometimes I don't trust  myself 
:-)

thanks all!

Now I'm gonna mess with folk and take the  color one out lol

ann

Doug Brewer wrote:

 ann sanfedele  wrote:

 poking around in stuff I took a year or so ago... I  _think_ I prefer 
 the  BW.
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615974287_MBwWh/Medium
  http://annsan.smugmug.com/gallery/2564371_i3HHm/1/615973564_hreL7/Medium

=
Oh,  good to read that, because I couldn't even find a color version.

Like  bridge, like gallery (although I've seen a lot of them before). 
Actually, GREAT  gallery. 

And, yeah, on second look it does seem to be Madonna as  Marilyn. But that 
doesn't mean we are wrong when we say we like the two Marilyns  (because, 
after all, she was channeling Marilyn).

Heh.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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Re: GESO - Huntington

2009-08-10 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent!  Excellent!  When I saw warehouse  shipping, I thought for sure 
that was going to be my favorite, but then  hillbilly gas trumped it big 
time.  Though I think the last four are fantastic.  I like the 1st one--the 
bw kids.  The abstracts are well done, but it's the last 4 that make me 
shout, now that's great photography!  Great eye, Doug!  Cheers, Christine





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Family and I drove over to Huntington, WV on Saturday for a day out and to 
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Here are a few of the photos I made on the trip.


http://www.alphoto.com/images/huntington/index.html

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Re: GESO Street Walk

2009-08-10 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks, Paul.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine



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Love the motorcycle pic and the legs shot. Fun stuff.
Paul
On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:


Thanks, Derby.  Much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine


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Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

I'd be interested in knowing if you like the interface and the 
inclusion of text here.  If not, feel free to say so.  If you  hover 
your curser over the right side middle of the large frame  you get an 
advance arrow.


I really haven't done much street work lately, and I really felt 
timid. I used only the K20D and DA 21mm for this evening's shoot.   The 
RAW frames were noisier than I would have expected, but  overall 
execution wasn't at peak, so maybe that accounts for it.  Please view 
photo #9 with a sense of humor, guys  :-).



http://caguila.com/caguila/streetwalk/





Oh my. The first one is terrific for obvious reasons, but the 
experiment in the subway is superb. Unexpected and very evocative.


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RE: First thoughts: GPS, geocoding (Mac, Lightroom)

2009-08-10 Thread SV Hovland

 How easy would it be to provide an option to display Long/Lat in
 decimal notation?


 I noticed that the file is autosaved and closed at 1000 log entries
 then new file is started. How easy is it to concatenate these files?

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Hi

I have added decimal display, added more options regarding auto save and added 
morning twilight. Both pocketpc and smartphone cab's are updated.


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