RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Tanya Love
TRAITOR!!

t. :)

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On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:16 PM, David Savage wrote:

 I love the reaction of people from outside of Oz trying Vegemite for 
 the first (and usually last) time :-)

Everyone knows Marmite is superior :))

Dave

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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Tanya Love wrote:



Bob W said:





However, take a look at this:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref=nf#!/ 
album.php

?page=6aid=161316id=547536217

These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is calling  
herself a
professional and who purchased her FIRST slr camera less than a  
year ago!

Grr.  They are FAR from professional!


The link isn't working.




I know how to use it AND I hate it. Anyone who thinks the mark of a
professional is knowing how to use artificial light knows nothing  
about

photography.

I totally agree!  The best shots I have done are the most uncontrived,
candid shots without invasive use of flash/strobes.  It takes  
special skill
to be able to read the light and know when natural light will make  
or

break the shot, and/or when flash is needed.


There is as much to learn about using strobes as there is about using  
a camera. Most of the photography I've done has been in situations  
where strobes aren't an option, so I worked at getting good at  
photographs without a strobe. Now, I really need to improve my skills  
with lighting.  I've read light, science and magic twice, and am  
working my way through the strobist DVDs.


One of the reasons I dislike my 540 so much is that I seem to have to  
put more energy into outsmarting it than I do in where to aim it, and  
how to diffuse it.  It may very well be the fault of the camera that  
the p-ttl metering isn't worth shite, but on average I get better  
results putting the flash on manual, and setting my f-stop by guaging  
the distance, taking a SCWAG at the exposure and occasionally chimping  
to double check.  This is why I get so annoyed at the flash deciding  
that I really want p-ttl rather than whatever power I set it at.


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Re: [Bulk] Re: Look Who Woke Up Salivating

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 13, 2010, at 4:39 PM, Paul Ewins wrote:



Come to think of it, my Speed Graphics don't have dials or  
buttons. Lots of

levers though.
Paul


How do you release a 'cocked' lever without a button?

keith whaley


Another lever.  One lever to cock the shutter, another one to fire  
it, a third to select the aperture and on some shutters two more  
levers for preview and flash sync (i.e. choosing v, m or x). On  
mosts shutters the speed is set with a ring around the outside of  
the shutter. True, there are also a few knobs here and there but I  
stand by the no buttons or dials.


Which is not to say that I think that this was what KR meant, just  
that monkeys with keyboards will occasionally write Shakespeare.


Or, for that matter, photography websites.

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Re: K7 Manual Mode Problem (PDML Digest, Vol 47, Issue 132)

2010-03-14 Thread AlunFoto
Gaëtan,
Try to remove the grip and check if the situation prevails.
Sometimes, if one of the Tv control wheels end up positioned slightly
between clicks, the other Tv wheel can act up. Same goes for Av
wheels of course, but under my fingertips it seems to happen more
often with the Tv wheel. Usually it's enough to rub both the grip and
the camera wheels back and forth a couple of times, but on the rare
occasion I've had to detach and re-attach the grip. Hasn't happened
yet with the K-7, but did with all my previous DSLRs.

Jostein

2010/3/13 Gaëtan Beauchamp li...@gaetanbeauchamp.ca:
 Hello everyone. Does anybody had problems with manual mode in K7? I am
 experiencing some and I think that I'll have to send it to Pentax
 Canada. It is impossible to trigger Tv with the front dial, it's going
 up but not down. I have to use the green button to come down to the
 fastest exposition. The rear dial seems to works OK.  I discoverthough
 that a grip give me access to all Tv and Av settings that I want.  Is
 someone experienced something similar and how to fix it if possible?
 Thanks. Gaetan B.

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Video

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen
A friend asked me to help him video his band tonight.  He's a pro, has  
the full rig, but since he's in the band, there's only so much he can  
do.
He set up the main camera taping the whole band and gave me a small  
handheld and monopod to get the detail shots.


He even suggested that I could do stuff with the main camera, zoom and  
pan and stuff, but I figured I'd leave it alone as a safe backup and  
just play with the one handheld camera.   It was fun, especially with  
the camcorder on the monopod and shooting at fun angles, like directly  
above the musicians, or from floor level.  On the other hand, it was a  
LOT of work.  Even without dealing with exposure and focus, it was  
more work than shooting stills. With still you only have to be  
reasonably still for, maybe, 1/5 Second, not for tens of seconds, or a  
minute or two at a shot. Mr. Cottrell has nothing to worry about my  
wanting to steal his job.


I also played a little bit with the video on the K-x.  Most of the  
clips were basically crap, however two of them turned out impressively  
well.
One was a 15 second clip with the FA77 that really impressed me with  
the image quality.  The other is a 40 second clip with the 18-250  
which sort of pushes the limits of the sensor.  Also, with video, I  
can see the advantages of motorized zoom.


I can play the files fine on my Mac.  In VLC I need to let it  
correct the avi file, but it works.  Unfortunately, my version of  
iMovie won't import them, and my version of quicktime won't save them.  
I guess that it's time to try installing the Pentax software and see  
how well it handles things.


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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/3/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:


In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2

WOW. stunning!

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/3/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

And I only had to explain what I wanted one time
before someone told me all I had to do was to ask for drip coffee.

I've never heard it called that here!

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Re: Video

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 14, 2010, at 1:59 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



I can play the files fine on my Mac.  In VLC I need to let it  
correct the avi file, but it works.  Unfortunately, my version of  
iMovie won't import them, and my version of quicktime won't save  
them. I guess that it's time to try installing the Pentax software  
and see how well it handles things.


It'll play the video, that's all. Oh well, one video is going up to  
flickr, the other to facebook.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/3/10, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed:

I think the strangest thing of all though, was the fact that Cotty was
really the only one who I could understand 100% of the time!  Sad, but true!

Very disconcerting as I only ever understand a maximum of about 80% 

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 
 And I only had to explain what I wanted one time before 
 someone told me 
 all I had to do was to ask for drip coffee.
 
 I've never heard it called that here!

Me neither. The hotelier must have learnt the American name for whatever it
is. I assume it's filter coffee.





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Re: Video

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/3/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

It was fun, especially with
the camcorder on the monopod and shooting at fun angles, like directly
above the musicians, or from floor level.  On the other hand, it was a
LOT of work.  Even without dealing with exposure and focus, it was
more work than shooting stills. With still you only have to be
reasonably still for, maybe, 1/5 Second, not for tens of seconds, or a
minute or two at a shot. Mr. Cottrell has nothing to worry about my
wanting to steal his job.

lol sounds great - please post the results when finished - love to see them :)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/3/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

Me neither. The hotelier must have learnt the American name for whatever it
is. I assume it's filter coffee.

I was assuming the hotelier was referring to the customer.

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Re: PESO - Waiting

2010-03-14 Thread drd1135
The red hat on the chair is very nice as well. 
Steve Desjardins

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Thanks, Dave.  I kinda liked it too.  Hasn't gotten much notice here, though.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Nice geometry and lighting on this
 shot.
 
 Good eye
 
 Dave
 
 On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  Wednesday I took my camera to work, and did some
 shooting on the way to and from (about a mile's walk in each
 direction).  On the way home, at about 7pm, I came upon
 this lonely bicycle on the Penn campus--it's spring break.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10799360
 
  (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/6)
 
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Tanya Love wrote:

Oh, no, I'm not talking real cheese here!  I  definitely mean the sliced,
square type that you find at Subway, Maccas (McDonalds) etc. aka Plastic
Cheese.

I am very well aware of the thousands of types of delicious cheeses
available world wide, me being a Fetta girl myself! Cheese is one of my
favourite things in the whole world!

I just thought of another thing too...

Cordial!  No-one, and I mean NO one in the US had any idea what I was
talking about when I asked if anyone had cordial!  We always have at least 2
bottles of different flavours in our house!  It is a concentrated water
syrup stuff that you add about a cm of to the bottom of a glass and fill the
remainder with water.  It is always a fruity flavour - raspberry, fruit
cup, orange, lime, lemon etc.  The closest American equivalent I could find
was Kool Aid, but it is powder?!

I was SO excited to come home and have a nice big glass of raspberry
cordial!  I guess we drink it like you guys drink Iced Tea - and it's just
not the same without a ton of ice cubes clinking around the glass!



As usual, this word has several meanings depending on where it's used.
In the U.S. I've always thought of a cordial as a liqueur but see it's 
definition varies all over the place!


See:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordial

Interesting...

keith whaley

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RE: PESO: Robin [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-03-14 Thread John Whittingham
Thanks David, they can get quite familiar with people at times, especially 
where there's food involved. I've had one at home take meal worms from my hand 
last springtime, fiesty little fellows though.

Regards,

John

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On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:24 AM, John Whittingham wrote:

 Taken locally: K20D DA*300/4, comment and critique welcome:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10798410

Lovely photo.

Our little fantail friend came and helped us in the garden again today but I 
was too busy with the pruning to go inside and get the camera.

He was behaving a bit like a cat, getting in the way all the time.  I realised 
that my pruning was shaking the plant enough to scare insects out of the 
foliage which he'd eat in flight.  Then he'd perch again and watch.  Very 
chatty too, I think he was quite enjoying himself.

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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Beautiful. Good timing on that wave, really adds to the mood

Dave

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:31 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Another pic from this week-end's foray.

 In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
 Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2

 Tim and I are having a great time. :-)

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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
As one barnie to another, well done
Dave

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue Rd) I 
 hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing barn and, early 
 this AM, returned with some gear.
 It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments and other 
 commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we call a cyclone fence 
 which resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire 
 barn, but wasn't possible.
 Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the detail in the 
 orig file. I have a bit of a problem with the barn peak/large tree weight so 
 near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.

 Jack

 Comments always welcome.

 K20, DA 16~45, hand held

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Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Hi all.

Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what better to do
than go shot pictures.

Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and stopped at
took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy with spring
run off.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810

K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2 but nothing special.
Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off of the D200
and put it back on the Slik pro 700.

Comments welcome

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RE: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 However, take a look at this:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=50625id=1022455271ref=
 nf#!/album.php
 ?page=6aid=161316id=547536217
 
 These were shot by a girl I know (in my home town), who is 
 calling herself a professional and who purchased her FIRST 
 slr camera less than a year ago!
 Grr.  They are FAR from professional!

I don't have a Facebook account, so I can't see them. Nevertheless, it
doesn't matter. If her target clients don't like them she won't get any
business; if they do, she will. Whether she describes herself as
professional or not is irrelevant - what matters from the professional point
of view is income. If you're generating regular income you're a
professional; otherwise you're not. It doesn't matter what you write on your
Facebook page.

Bob


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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I don't have a Facebook account, so I can't see them. Nevertheless, it
 doesn't matter. If her target clients don't like them she won't get any
 business; if they do, she will. Whether she describes herself as
 professional or not is irrelevant - what matters from the professional point
 of view is income. If you're generating regular income you're a
 professional; otherwise you're not. It doesn't matter what you write on your
 Facebook page.

 Bob

I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me
into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a
wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos.

Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she
used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel
and about 1 year.
His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask
if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer)

Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and
thought his response was funny.

Dave



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Re: peso - portrait

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Great job on the face sharpness, but, the blur of the sweater seems to
much, and i agree with Derby, back ground to cluttered.
Photo also looks a bit to dark.
Dave

On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

 I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

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Light houses

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Some neat shots.

http://www.canoe.ca/Travel/Microgalleries/lighthouse/home.html?pic=0

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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread Jack Davis
I carry the title proudly! ;)
Thanks, Dave.

Jack

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 Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
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 Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 4:25 AM
 As one barnie to another, well done
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
  On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a
 street (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some years. I
 recorded this east facing barn and, early this AM, returned
 with some gear.
  It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
 apartments and other commercial structures. Had to shoot
 through what we call a cyclone fence which resulted in my
 needing to heavily crop. Wanted to include the entire barn,
 but wasn't possible.
  Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion.
 Love the detail in the orig file. I have a bit of a problem
 with the barn peak/large tree weight so near the center, but
 WTH, I had a brief moment with a camera.
 
  Jack
 
  Comments always welcome.
 
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Re: Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread Jack Davis
Makes you wonder how it all happened. Well composed, David!

Jack

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 Subject: Peso Red River
 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com
 Cc: Home Sarah sarah.h...@firstgroup.com, Conley Leah 
 leah.con...@firstgroup.com, Smillie Dale dale.smil...@firstgroup.com
 Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 4:41 AM
 Hi all.
 
 Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what
 better to do
 than go shot pictures.
 
 Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and
 stopped at
 took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy
 with spring
 run off.
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810
 
 K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2
 but nothing special.
 Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off
 of the D200
 and put it back on the Slik pro 700.
 
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Re: PESO - Waiting

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Rick,
I've looked at the picture several times without comment so here goes...
I like the repeated forms of the bike posts and the perspective they create.
For me, the bike is too much in the dark.  I wish the wall and bike
were lighter.
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Thanks, Dave.  I kinda liked it too.  Hasn't gotten much notice here, though.

 Rick

 http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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 Nice geometry and lighting on this
 shot.

 Good eye

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  Wednesday I took my camera to work, and did some
 shooting on the way to and from (about a mile's walk in each
 direction).  On the way home, at about 7pm, I came upon
 this lonely bicycle on the Penn campus--it's spring break.
 
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10799360
 
  (K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/6)
 
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Peso Retaining wall

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Taken on the other side of the road from the Red river shot.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10805351

My guess is its part of the flood retention system.

K10D 16-45 overcast and rainy

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Re: Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Looks kind of dangerous Dave!Regards,  Bob S.

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 Hi all.

 Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what better to do
 than go shot pictures.

 Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and stopped at
 took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy with spring
 run off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810

 K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2 but nothing 
 special.
 Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off of the D200
 and put it back on the Slik pro 700.

 Comments welcome

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Miserere

I was once at a petrol station (why would you call it gas if it's
liquid!?!?!?) 


Gas is short-hand for gasoline.

First there was kerosene, which you call paraffin for some odd reason, 
then came gasoline. But saying the whole word takes too long, and 
Americans are in a hurry to get things done.


I think the only reason kerosene didn't get shortened to kero was 
people were afraid they'd get confused  put it on pancakes by mistake.


What do you lot call pancakes?


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread David Savage
No, no Tan:

KIWI !!



On 14 March 2010 16:15, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 TRAITOR!!

 t. :)

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 On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:16 PM, David Savage wrote:

 I love the reaction of people from outside of Oz trying Vegemite for
 the first (and usually last) time :-)

 Everyone knows Marmite is superior :))

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 22:31, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Miserere

 I was once at a petrol station (why would you call it gas if it's
 liquid!?!?!?)

 Gas is short-hand for gasoline.

 First there was kerosene, which you call paraffin for some odd reason, then
 came gasoline. But saying the whole word takes too long, and Americans are
 in a hurry to get things done.

 I think the only reason kerosene didn't get shortened to kero was people
 were afraid they'd get confused  put it on pancakes by mistake.

It's shortened to kero here in .au.

DS

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread David Savage
On 14 March 2010 22:31, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 What do you lot call pancakes?

Pancakes.

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tanya Love

I just thought of another thing too...

Cordial!  No-one, and I mean NO one in the US had any idea what I was
talking about when I asked if anyone had cordial!  We always have at least 2
bottles of different flavours in our house!  It is a concentrated water
syrup stuff that you add about a cm of to the bottom of a glass and fill the
remainder with water.  It is always a fruity flavour - raspberry, fruit
cup, orange, lime, lemon etc.  The closest American equivalent I could find
was Kool Aid, but it is powder?!

I was SO excited to come home and have a nice big glass of raspberry
cordial!  I guess we drink it like you guys drink Iced Tea - and it's just
not the same without a ton of ice cubes clinking around the glass!


You could have asked for raspberry syrup. That's what it would be 
called in North Carolina. You could have found it in a specialty grocery 
... possibly in Boone, NC was the closest place to Grandfather Mountain.


In North Carolina, a cordial is a spirituous liquor, an alcoholic 
beverage, and is also only available in specialty shops, i.e. state 
controlled ABC stores.


Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to constantly 
fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.


Anyway, I think the cordial sold in ABC stores is fruit syrup + water 
+ grain alcohol to a certain percentage ... don't really know since I 
mostly drink gin.


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Re: Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread P N Stenquist
I thought it was going to be a picture of the river, but it's just a  
shot of your truck:-))


Seriously, it's sad that an attractive waterway is defaced like that.  
But you have done a good job of recording said defacement.


Paul
On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:


Hi all.

Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what better to do
than go shot pictures.

Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and stopped at
took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy with spring
run off.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810

K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2 but  
nothing special.

Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off of the D200
and put it back on the Slik pro 700.

Comments welcome

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Tanya Love

Oh, another cultural difference there - we TAKE our lunch to school with us
here - we don't have cafeterias that serve
Hot meals to our kids.  We do have tuckshops where the kids can place an
order in a brown paper bag (or online now!),
and have it delivered to their classrooms, but most kids only do that like
once per week, as a special treat, or when,
like me, their mums haven't been to buy groceries and can't work out what to
send them for lunch! Lol.


The dirty little secret behind American school cafeterias is they're 
part of the socialist agenda.


See, reformers somehow got the idea in the early 20th century that 
sometimes poor families might not have money to feed their kids, but 
they didn't want charity.


If the school served a nutritious lunch every day to EVERY child, the 
charity of feeding the poor kids could be disguised, and at least they 
wouldn't starve to death. It's linked in with such communistic ideas as 
mandatory school attendance and the abolition of child labor.


It served a couple of other purposes as well. The schools bought most of 
the food locally putting a little money into the hands of local farmers. 
The rest of the food came out of USDA surplus, reducing that surplus, 
saving the USDA warehousing costs and making room for them to buy more 
food to keep up the price supports to agri-business.


And the school cafeterias gave a fair number of women jobs. Workfare, 
not welfare.


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Re: PESO - Goks?yr

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

On 13/3/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:


In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2


Nice stormy looming mood.

There's definitely some original posts that are not making it into the 
digests. I do try to look at everyones PESOs even if I don't comment on 
all of them. Didn't see this one until someone replied to it.


I don't think I could have missed this one originally.

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GESO - Runde at wintertime

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
Four picks and some text from a winter journey to Runde.
BWT: I have a complaint to make about Jostein. His silhouette creates
a lot of CA.

http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/03/runde-at-wintertime.html

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty

On 13/3/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:


And I only had to explain what I wanted one time
before someone told me all I had to do was to ask for drip coffee.


I've never heard it called that here!


It was someone at the counter at a sandwich shop in the Queen Street 
Railway Station in Glasgow if it makes any difference. I described the 
Bunn-o-matic coffee maker and he was familiar with them and said to just 
ask for drip coffee in the future.


And it worked. I asked for drip coffee from then on and got something 
that tasted like I'm familiar with and could drink.


Before that, someone had recommended asking for an Americano, which is 
the most GAWD-AWFUL tasting crap, worse than Starbucks.


Funny thing is, after the first night I stayed in bed 'n breakfast 
type lodgings, and every one of them had a genuine Bunn-o-matic 
commercial drip coffee maker in the dining room for that breakfast.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
John,

We came home for lunch in my day ('50's)
Only the kids who rode the bus had to stay in for lunch.
I can see the grade school from my house, but my kids took lunch in bags.
There are fewer stay at home moms to fix lunch for kids,
and it's easier to control the day if you keep the kids in school.

I always thought of the school lunch program as a conspiracy between
the USDA and the Wisconsin Dairy farmers to get rid of surplus cheese.
I changed my mind when I learned about school breakfast programs.
It's a sad state of affairs when the kids come to school to hungry to learn,
and when the parents are so negligent.  At least this feeds them...

Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:20 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 From: Tanya Love

 Oh, another cultural difference there - we TAKE our lunch to school with
 us
 here - we don't have cafeterias that serve
 Hot meals to our kids.  We do have tuckshops where the kids can place an
 order in a brown paper bag (or online now!),
 and have it delivered to their classrooms, but most kids only do that like
 once per week, as a special treat, or when,
 like me, their mums haven't been to buy groceries and can't work out what
 to
 send them for lunch! Lol.

 The dirty little secret behind American school cafeterias is they're part of
 the socialist agenda.

 See, reformers somehow got the idea in the early 20th century that sometimes
 poor families might not have money to feed their kids, but they didn't want
 charity.

 If the school served a nutritious lunch every day to EVERY child, the
 charity of feeding the poor kids could be disguised, and at least they
 wouldn't starve to death. It's linked in with such communistic ideas as
 mandatory school attendance and the abolition of child labor.

 It served a couple of other purposes as well. The schools bought most of the
 food locally putting a little money into the hands of local farmers. The
 rest of the food came out of USDA surplus, reducing that surplus, saving
 the USDA warehousing costs and making room for them to buy more food to keep
 up the price supports to agri-business.

 And the school cafeterias gave a fair number of women jobs. Workfare, not
 welfare.

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Re: PESO - Goksøyr

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
You sure caught a better wave than I did. (I need to work on my timing
on waves).
I'm not sure if I like what you did to the sky.

I think I'll work a bit more on mine, and see if it's a candidate for
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2010/3/13 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 Another pic from this week-end's foray.

 In Blog: http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2010/03/goksyr-runde.html
 Pic only: http://turl.no/8e2

 Tim and I are having a great time. :-)

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread William Robb


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Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation





Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to constantly 
fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.




Tell them that if it wasn't for the discovery of alcohol we would all still 
be cave dwelling hunter gatherers eating whatever we could find on the 
forest floor.


William Robb 



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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W
 
 And I only had to explain what I wanted one time before 
 someone told me 

 all I had to do was to ask for drip coffee.
 
 I've never heard it called that here!


Me neither. The hotelier must have learnt the American name for whatever it
is. I assume it's filter coffee.



Possibly I mis-remember.

The guy I was talking to knew what I was talking about when I described 
it and he told me what word to say to get what I wanted.


It's been five years, could be that it was filter coffee he told me to 
ask for.


Funny how memory works. Some things stay and some things fade away.

It was at a food vendor inside Queen Street Railway Station in Glasgow. 
I remember it was to the right as you came in the main entrance off 
George Square, and it had a little fenced off seating area. It was very 
similar to the kind of establishment you find in an American shopping 
mall food court.


I got some sort of sweet pastry  a cup of coffee in a paper cup that 
was too hot to hold at first, even after I wrapped it in several paper 
napkins.


I know it was not the Burger King, and it was not the COSTA (been 
googling like mad trying to find a photo on-line).


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty

On 14/3/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:


Me neither. The hotelier must have learnt the American name for whatever it
is. I assume it's filter coffee.


I was assuming the hotelier was referring to the customer.


Cotty, you'll be back at Grandfather Mountain again someday, and you're 
going to have to sleep some time.


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Re: Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Jack, Bob and Paul.

My truck is black Paul, must be some one elses.;-)

My original intent on the drive was to get a few rapids shots from the
bridge(i used to drive over this bridge on my bus training) but never
saw the truck part until i went down by the edge. The bridge is
covered in wall art but was difficult to get at.

Dave

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 I thought it was going to be a picture of the river, but it's just a shot of
 your truck:-))

 Seriously, it's sad that an attractive waterway is defaced like that. But
 you have done a good job of recording said defacement.

 Paul
 On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:41 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Hi all.

 Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what better to do
 than go shot pictures.

 Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and stopped at
 took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy with spring
 run off.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810

 K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2 but nothing
 special.
 Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off of the D200
 and put it back on the Slik pro 700.

 Comments welcome

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Re: GESO - Runde at wintertime

2010-03-14 Thread David J Brooks
The first two are really good.

Dave

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 BWT: I have a complaint to make about Jostein. His silhouette creates
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Re: Video

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:32 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 14/3/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:


It was fun, especially with
the camcorder on the monopod and shooting at fun angles, like  
directly
above the musicians, or from floor level.  On the other hand, it  
was a

LOT of work.  Even without dealing with exposure and focus, it was
more work than shooting stills. With still you only have to be
reasonably still for, maybe, 1/5 Second, not for tens of seconds,  
or a

minute or two at a shot. Mr. Cottrell has nothing to worry about my
wanting to steal his job.


lol sounds great - please post the results when finished - love to  
see them :)


Dan is doing all of the editing, I'll post links to what gets processed.

Here's a short clip from the K-x:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4431824502/

And for those with facebook, a somewhat longer one:
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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 
  Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to 
 constantly 
  fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.
 
 
 Tell them that if it wasn't for the discovery of alcohol we 
 would all still 
 be cave dwelling hunter gatherers eating whatever we could 
 find on the 
 forest floor.

Alcohol is what makes us think we're civilised.

Bob


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
Luxury! We wuz so poor we had to eat us own feet for school dinner. And in
t'evening our Mam spread jam made from our Nan's doin's on bread she'd
wrestled from t'ducks ni t'park.


 John,
 
 We came home for lunch in my day ('50's) Only the kids who 
 rode the bus had to stay in for lunch.
 I can see the grade school from my house, but my kids took 
 lunch in bags.
 There are fewer stay at home moms to fix lunch for kids, and 
 it's easier to control the day if you keep the kids in school.
 
 I always thought of the school lunch program as a conspiracy 
 between the USDA and the Wisconsin Dairy farmers to get rid 
 of surplus cheese.
 I changed my mind when I learned about school breakfast programs.
 It's a sad state of affairs when the kids come to school to 
 hungry to learn, and when the parents are so negligent.  At 
 least this feeds them...
 
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:20 AM, John Sessoms 
 jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
  From: Tanya Love
 
  Oh, another cultural difference there - we TAKE our lunch 
 to school 
  with us here - we don't have cafeterias that serve Hot 
 meals to our 
  kids.  We do have tuckshops where the kids can place an 
 order in a 
  brown paper bag (or online now!), and have it delivered to their 
  classrooms, but most kids only do that like once per week, as a 
  special treat, or when, like me, their mums haven't been to buy 
  groceries and can't work out what to send them for lunch! Lol.
 
  The dirty little secret behind American school cafeterias 
 is they're 
  part of the socialist agenda.
 
  See, reformers somehow got the idea in the early 20th century that 
  sometimes poor families might not have money to feed their 
 kids, but 
  they didn't want charity.
 
  If the school served a nutritious lunch every day to EVERY 
 child, the 
  charity of feeding the poor kids could be disguised, and at least 
  they wouldn't starve to death. It's linked in with such communistic 
  ideas as mandatory school attendance and the abolition of 
 child labor.
 
  It served a couple of other purposes as well. The schools 
 bought most 
  of the food locally putting a little money into the hands of local 
  farmers. The rest of the food came out of USDA surplus, reducing 
  that surplus, saving the USDA warehousing costs and making room for 
  them to buy more food to keep up the price supports to 
 agri-business.
 
  And the school cafeterias gave a fair number of women jobs. 
 Workfare, 
  not welfare.
 
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Keith Whaley wrote:


Tanya Love wrote:
Oh, no, I'm not talking real cheese here!  I  definitely mean the  
sliced,
square type that you find at Subway, Maccas (McDonalds) etc. aka  
Plastic

Cheese.
I am very well aware of the thousands of types of delicious cheeses
available world wide, me being a Fetta girl myself! Cheese is one  
of my

favourite things in the whole world!
I just thought of another thing too...
Cordial!  No-one, and I mean NO one in the US had any idea what I was
talking about when I asked if anyone had cordial!  We always have  
at least 2
bottles of different flavours in our house!  It is a concentrated  
water
syrup stuff that you add about a cm of to the bottom of a glass and  
fill the
remainder with water.  It is always a fruity flavour - raspberry,  
fruit
cup, orange, lime, lemon etc.  The closest American equivalent I  
could find

was Kool Aid, but it is powder?!


It sounds like what we call Italian Syrup, sold as Torani (sp?) and  
poured either into club soda (seltzer water) or over shaved Ice.

It comes in a wide variety of flavors.

If you want serious regional differences, it seems that every part of  
the US has a different name for carbonated sugar water:


soda
pop
soda pop
coke (not Coke, but coke. What sort of coke would you like? Pepsi)



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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 In North Carolina, a cordial is a spirituous liquor, an 
 alcoholic beverage, and is also only available in specialty 
 shops, i.e. state controlled ABC stores.
 
 Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to 
 constantly fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.

When I spent a weekend in NC a few years ago we had to drive about 35 miles
each way from the town we were in to find somewhere that would serve us with
a drink. When we got there it was like one those bars you see in Burt
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 14, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Bob W wrote:



Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to

constantly

fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.



Tell them that if it wasn't for the discovery of alcohol we
would all still
be cave dwelling hunter gatherers eating whatever we could
find on the
forest floor.


Alcohol is what makes us think we're civilised.


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
[...]
 It was at a food vendor inside Queen Street Railway Station 
 in Glasgow. 
 I remember it was to the right as you came in the main 
 entrance off George Square, and it had a little fenced off 
 seating area. It was very similar to the kind of 
 establishment you find in an American shopping mall food court.
 
 I got some sort of sweet pastry  a cup of coffee in a paper 
 cup that was too hot to hold at first, even after I wrapped 
 it in several paper napkins.
 
 I know it was not the Burger King, and it was not the COSTA 
 (been googling like mad trying to find a photo on-line).

Café Nero, AMT, Starbucks, Coffee Republic, Puccino, Pret a Manger, Café
Ritazza, Upper Crust, Greggs, Dunkin Donuts, Macdo, ...

On the other hand, if it was Glasgow, it could have been anything but it was
so hot because it was deep fried.
http://www.christian.org.uk/news/bible-deep-fried-in-batter-sold-in-public-
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Re: GESO - Runde at wintertime

2010-03-14 Thread Tim Øsleby
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 The first two are really good.

 Dave

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 Four picks and some text from a winter journey to Runde.
 BWT: I have a complaint to make about Jostein. His silhouette creates
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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 It was someone at the counter at a sandwich shop in the Queen 
 Street Railway Station in Glasgow if it makes any difference. 
 I described the Bunn-o-matic coffee maker and he was familiar 
 with them and said to just ask for drip coffee in the future.
 
 And it worked. I asked for drip coffee from then on and got 
 something that tasted like I'm familiar with and could drink.
 
 Before that, someone had recommended asking for an 
 Americano, which is the most GAWD-AWFUL tasting crap, worse 
 than Starbucks.
 

The clue's in the name...

Americano is espresso with hot water added because, according to legend,
American tourists couldn't stomach espresso and had to have it weakened.
Similarly in France you can have your steak cooked a l'americain, which
means burnt.

 Funny thing is, after the first night I stayed in bed 'n breakfast 
 type lodgings, and every one of them had a genuine 
 Bunn-o-matic commercial drip coffee maker in the dining room 
 for that breakfast.
 
One of these?

http://www.caffesociety.co.uk/bunn-pour-and-serve-37800-0102.html

They're the sort of thing that British Rail used back in the worst days of
British food history. Typically they would sit on a hot plate for days at a
time and would serve coffee that tasted like the scrapings from a locomotive
boiler. 

I've never had a decent cup of coffee from one of these - they leave the jug
stewing for too long. Filter coffee is only worth drinking if it's
absolutely fresh (which is how I make it in the morning, with one of these: 
http://www.swissgold.com/e/c_produkt06.php.





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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation






Alcohol is what makes us think we're civilised.


Not to mention attractive.



Keep drinking, lad.

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread William Robb


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Subject: RE: question for the brits American to English translation




Alcohol is what makes us think we're civilised.



Actually, it was the realization that if fruit was left sitting long enough 
it got better by fermenting.
By forming stationary communities, we were able to reap the benefits of 
fermentation.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Keith Whaley

David Savage wrote:

On 14 March 2010 22:31, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

What do you lot call pancakes?



Pancakes.



Depending on who you lot really ARE, in the U.S. we frequently call them 
flap-jacks, which is slang... No idea where THAT came from, either, but Google 
says that name started about 1600!


Think that's a while ago? Pancake, the original word for them started in the 
1400's, according to the Wikipedia Dictionary!


I grew up just south of Lake Erie in Ohio, and there was a variation called 
jonnycake which was a corn meal based pancake, cooked the same way.
Just south of my tiny hometown, we even had an East-West side of the hills 
(aka 'mountains) road called Jonnycake Ridge Route! :-D


Ain't history fun?

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob Sullivan

We came home for lunch in my day ('50's)
Only the kids who rode the bus had to stay in for lunch.
I can see the grade school from my house, but my kids took lunch in bags.
There are fewer stay at home moms to fix lunch for kids,
and it's easier to control the day if you keep the kids in school.

I always thought of the school lunch program as a conspiracy between
the USDA and the Wisconsin Dairy farmers to get rid of surplus cheese.
I changed my mind when I learned about school breakfast programs.
It's a sad state of affairs when the kids come to school to hungry to learn,
and when the parents are so negligent.  At least this feeds them...


Different school systems - different rules - different reasons.

Thinking back on my elementary school days, I think there were a few 
kids there who lived close enough to the school to go home for lunch. 
Not many did, because even then a lot of mothers got jobs outside the 
home once the kids were old enough to go to school.


I grew up in a lower middle class part of town, and I think I was the 
only kid in my grade whose mother didn't work in one of the cigarette 
factories.


The school breakfast is a much later addition. Early to mid-70s if I 
remember, although it WAS driven in part by concern that the USDA was 
having so much surplus food to warehouse.


It was actually originally proposed as a cost cutting measure, because 
distributing surplus food to the schools cost less than destroying it.


I don't know that I blame parental neglect for kids going to shcool 
hungry as much as I see parental ignorance  poverty. Parents who don't 
know any better, or don't have the resources, rather than parents who 
don't care.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: William Robb

From: John Sessoms


 Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to constantly 
 fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.




Tell them that if it wasn't for the discovery of alcohol we would all still 
be cave dwelling hunter gatherers eating whatever we could find on the 
forest floor.


Right. Like they listen to anything I got to say.

They don't care about possible benefits of alcohol. The only thing they 
care about is consumption of alcohol might lead to dancing.




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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: question for the brits American to English translation




They don't care about possible benefits of alcohol. The only thing they 
care about is consumption of alcohol might lead to dancing.




It's amazing that they breed, isn't it?

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
[...]
 Depending on who you lot really ARE, in the U.S. we 
 frequently call them flap-jacks, which is slang... No idea 
 where THAT came from, either, but Google says that name 
 started about 1600!
 

In the UK flapjacks are a different thing from pancakes. Pancakes are
normally made from a think liquid of milk, eggs and flour then fried in
butter. In other words, they are what the French call crepes. Flapjacks are
made from rolled oats, honey and butter, mixed into a tin to a depth of
about one inch and cooked in the oven.

There are also numerous pan-type things made from different variations of
similar ingredients, such as oatcakes, popular in Derbyshire - oats, flour,
milk, salt, sugar. Mix, fry in animal fat. 

 Think that's a while ago? Pancake, the original word for them 
 started in the 1400's, according to the Wikipedia Dictionary!
 

All that type of food has a very ancient history and is spread around the
world. You can see people everywhere mixing their staple with liquid, and
frying it one way or another.
http://www.web-options.com/Pick2008/content/_9299359_large.html

 I grew up just south of Lake Erie in Ohio, and there was a 
 variation called jonnycake which was a corn meal based 
 pancake, cooked the same way.
 Just south of my tiny hometown, we even had an East-West side 
 of the hills (aka 'mountains) road called Jonnycake Ridge Route! :-D
 

Johnny Cakes are also well known in the Caribbean, and from there they have
journeyed to the UK. On a bus ride in Ethiopia once I sat next to a
Rastafarian who was making the journey to Jamaica - a part of Ethiopia that
Haile Selassie (Ras Tafari) gave to the Rastas. When the bus stopped in
Nazret (Nazareth!) for a break we bought some dumplings which a local woman
was frying at the roadside - according to the rasta they were exactly the
same as johnny cakes. He said they were called johnny cakes because you took
them with you on a journey ( 'johnny').

 Ain't history fun?
 

It's everywhere!

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
  They don't care about possible benefits of alcohol. The 
 only thing they 
  care about is consumption of alcohol might lead to dancing.
  
 
 It's amazing that they breed, isn't it?
 

They have to get drunk first...



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Re: GESO - Runde at wintertime

2010-03-14 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Tim: I like your GESO very much--especially 1, 2,  4--and I like 4 the 
best.  Sounds like you guys had a great time. You know, I really like four, 
but I wonder what a hint of crop on the bottom and on the left might do.  It 
might bring in the bird on the pole into the picture more, which is a pretty 
cool picture.  Anyway, just a thought--ignore if it doesn't suit you :-). 
Cheers, Christine




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Four picks and some text from a winter journey to Runde.
BWT: I have a complaint to make about Jostein. His silhouette creates
a lot of CA.

http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/03/runde-at-wintertime.html

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Re: GESO -- After the Fall (a subset)

2010-03-14 Thread Christine Aguila

This is an intriguing set of pictures--very gloomy  sad.  Cheers, Christine


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So by popular demand...  Well Ok not so popular demand, Rick Wormer wanted 
to see more of these* so you can blame him.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/Connecticut%27s%20Ghost%20Town/GESO%20--%20afterthefall.html

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/various Pentax Lenses.  (It you want to know the 
lens hover the mouse over the picture, an information tooltip will appear. 
It works in Firefox, I assume later versions of IE as well).


*He also wanted to know the story, which I'm still working on and I have 
high hopes that it'll be done some day real soon now..


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Paul Sorenson

On 3/14/2010 2:08 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: William Robb

From: John Sessoms


 Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to 
constantly  fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.




Tell them that if it wasn't for the discovery of alcohol we would all 
still be cave dwelling hunter gatherers eating whatever we could find 
on the forest floor.


Right. Like they listen to anything I got to say.

They don't care about possible benefits of alcohol. The only thing 
they care about is consumption of alcohol might lead to dancing.


That's why they never have sex standing up...someone might think they're 
dancing.


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 06:35:05PM -, Bob W wrote:
 
 I've never had a decent cup of coffee from one of these - they leave the jug
 stewing for too long. Filter coffee is only worth drinking if it's
 absolutely fresh (which is how I make it in the morning, with one of these: 
 http://www.swissgold.com/e/c_produkt06.php.

I don't see the point, personally.  I don't think filter coffee tastes as good
as coffee made in a French Press (such as a Bodum), and it's no easier to make.

The biggest contribution to coffee taste is freshness. Whole beans will keep
for a while in an airtight container, especially in the freezer (right next
to the box of film :-), although the less time between roasting and brewing
the better the coffee can be.  Ground coffee doesn't keep anywhwere near as
well, so I try to grind beans only as needed.

If you make more coffee than you can drink at one time, keep it warm in a
vacuum pot, not on a hotplate.


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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

[...]
 
 In North Carolina, a cordial is a spirituous liquor, an 
 alcoholic beverage, and is also only available in specialty 
 shops, i.e. state controlled ABC stores.
 
 Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to 
 constantly fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.


When I spent a weekend in NC a few years ago we had to drive about 35 miles
each way from the town we were in to find somewhere that would serve us with
a drink. When we got there it was like one those bars you see in Burt
Reynolds films. Most educational.


It's called local option - each polity gets to hold a referendum on 
what forms of alcohol sales are allowed within their boundaries. Can 
lead to some strange combinations sometimes. Dry counties with wet 
towns inside them, and more rarely wet counties with dry towns.


When I was going to school in Asheboro, NC - Asheboro  Randolph County 
are DRY, but the town of Ramseur has a state ABC store, and the town of 
Randleman allows grocery stores (including 7/11 type stores) to sell 
beer and wine.


North Carolina didn't allow liquor to be sold by-the-drink prior to 1975 
or so. The Baptist State Convention dominated the legislature and 
wouldn't allow them to change the law.


There was finally a big campaign by the hotel and restaurant lobby 
because it was hurting the tourism industry, and they finally forced the 
legislature to put a state-wide referendum on the ballot to let the 
voters decide whether to allow liquor-by-the-drink sales.


It passed by an overwhelming majority. I mean like 90% yes votes.

After that came the local referendums to determine whether to permit 
liquor-by-the-drink ... I think Randolph County has another referendum 
about every five years, and so far it's been barely defeated county-wide 
- 50.5% NO vote.


Before liquor-by-the-drink passed, we had what was called brown 
bagging - you brought your own bottle in a brown paper bag, and the 
establishment provided setups - essentially all the ingredients for 
the mixed drink except for the alcohol - and you mixed your own drink 
out of your own bottle.


What eventually sold liquor-by-the-drink in North Carolina was the 
simple argument that under brown bagging too many people didn't stop 
drinking until the bottle was empty, and that under liquor-by-the-drink, 
people might drink less.


Which, as it turned out, was true. Although more liquor gets sold now, 
individuals drink less.



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Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-14 Thread Miserere
On 14 March 2010 09:03, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me
 into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a
 wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos.

 Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she
 used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel
 and about 1 year.
 His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask
 if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer)

 Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and
 thought his response was funny.

 Dave

Funny, just yesterday I was writing a post for my blog about
photographers on court TV--this case is most definitely in my post. To
add some details, the photographer showed up at to the church ceremony
(where strobes weren't allowed, according to her) with a digital rebel
and kit lens. When the judge asked her what apertures the lens had,
she didn't know. Of course, the photos were rubbish.

Here's the post:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/14/when-photographers-go-to-court/

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W
Funny thing is, after the first night I stayed in bed 'n breakfast 
 type lodgings, and every one of them had a genuine 
 Bunn-o-matic commercial drip coffee maker in the dining room 
 for that breakfast.
 

One of these?

http://www.caffesociety.co.uk/bunn-pour-and-serve-37800-0102.html


Yeah, one of those - although that's a newer sleeker design designed 
for small volume brewing using glass 3 pint jugs.




They're the sort of thing that British Rail used back in the worst days of
British food history. Typically they would sit on a hot plate for days at a
time and would serve coffee that tasted like the scrapings from a locomotive
boiler. 



If you let it sit on the burner for days at a time it's no wonder it 
tastes awful.


Most places I'm aware of in the U.S. hold the coffee for 45 minutes or 
less. If it hasn't sold by then, they dump it and make a fresh pot if 
they serve coffee all day or they turn it off until they're ready to 
make more.


I don't know how long the bed 'n breakfast places in Scotland held their 
coffee, but I doubt it was even that long.


You can find stale coffee at convenience stores in the U.S. if you go in 
there in the afternoon, but even there they'll dump it and make fresh 
coffee if you only ask.



I've never had a decent cup of coffee from one of these - they leave the jug
stewing for too long. Filter coffee is only worth drinking if it's
absolutely fresh (which is how I make it in the morning, with one of these: 
http://www.swissgold.com/e/c_produkt06.php.


You're blaming the machinery for the operator's failings.

At home I have an old (ca 1975) 4 cup Mr. Coffee that I use most of 
the time, makes about 20 oz (liquid measure) of coffee, which is 2 
servings for me.


Unless I only want a single serving, in which case I use a single 
serving Melita #2 cone filter holder.


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Re: peso - portrait

2010-03-14 Thread Sasha Sobol
Thanks to everyone, espetially to John - now I am confident thatit is
not landscape.
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On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:15 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great job on the face sharpness, but, the blur of the sweater seems to
 much, and i agree with Derby, back ground to cluttered.
 Photo also looks a bit to dark.
 Dave

 On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

 I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

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PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread DagT
http://thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

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Re: PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread 272yb
Looks a little like an art work...
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RE: PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 
 http://thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
 
 K20D, DA21, 1/90, f/9.5, ISO800.
 
 DagT
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Excellent photo - well seen and executed.

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Tanya Love
Lol, we call it soft drink!

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If you want serious regional differences, it seems that every part of the US
has a different name for carbonated sugar water:

soda
pop
soda pop
coke (not Coke, but coke. What sort of coke would you like? Pepsi)



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Re: PESO - Waiting

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller
In general, I like this but I'd be more decisive with a crop to either 
include all of the bike's wheel on the RH side  more of the bike rack on 
the LH side  or cut both off more - as posted these items make the image 
look like a quick grab when it could be seen as soo much more.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com

Subject: PESO - Waiting


Wednesday I took my camera to work, and did some shooting on the way to 
and from (about a mile's walk in each direction).  On the way home, at 
about 7pm, I came upon this lonely bicycle on the Penn campus--it's spring 
break.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10799360

(K10D, FA 50/1.7, ISO 1600, f/6.7 @ 1/6)

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Tanya Love
Ok, so you know what?  Our backyard fence IS my kids school fence.  We live
literally 30m from our school, and my kids are NOT allowed to come home for
lunch!  Once they cross that fence line, if I want them home before they are
dismissed at the end of the day, I have to go to the school myself, sign
them out at the office, and then collect them personally from their
classrooms.

Doesn't make an ounce of difference to the teachers though who regularly
send them home to get their hat, or their drink bottle or their homework
book, or whatever else they have forgotten to take with them on any given
day!

I regularly take their lunches over to them too - if I've been up late
working and am too lazy to drag myself up early enough to make their
lunches, I'll make it later on and take it over to them.  It's great in
winter when I turn up at the classroom doors with fresh hot, pumpkin soup
and warm bread rolls.  My kids become the toast of the classroom!

Funny about the reasoning behind the canteens in the US - I am actually
studying a Bachelor of Human Services in Child Protection right now, and I
just wrote a program last Semester to run in Aussie schools providing them
with a hot breakfast and nutritional education each day, for that exact
reason!  I see it in all 3 of my kids classes (only 3 of my kids are old
enough for school) - other kids turning up hungry and then with nothing but
a cup cake or a mars bar for lunch.  The program I wrote is designed to give
them a hearty, healthy breakfast, low GI and high on brain foods to help
them to get through the day and actually be able to learn rather then listen
to their tummies grumbling all morning, and having no attention span because
of it!

Oh, and btw, I am a huge advocate for forced sterilisation of women until
they attain a certain level of parental education and a certain age and are
able to prove their ability to provide for their kids.  Sure, it breaches
about every single human right in the book - but what about the rights of
the poor neglected and abused kids that did not ask to be born and who are
delivered square into the middle of the poverty cycle with few prospects for
their lives except to continue the cycle themselves through lack of
education and resources.

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Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:02 AM
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From: Bob Sullivan
 We came home for lunch in my day ('50's) Only the kids who rode the 
 bus had to stay in for lunch.
 I can see the grade school from my house, but my kids took lunch in bags.
 There are fewer stay at home moms to fix lunch for kids, and it's 
 easier to control the day if you keep the kids in school.
 
 I always thought of the school lunch program as a conspiracy between 
 the USDA and the Wisconsin Dairy farmers to get rid of surplus cheese.
 I changed my mind when I learned about school breakfast programs.
 It's a sad state of affairs when the kids come to school to hungry to 
 learn, and when the parents are so negligent.  At least this feeds them...

Different school systems - different rules - different reasons.

Thinking back on my elementary school days, I think there were a few kids
there who lived close enough to the school to go home for lunch. 
Not many did, because even then a lot of mothers got jobs outside the home
once the kids were old enough to go to school.

I grew up in a lower middle class part of town, and I think I was the only
kid in my grade whose mother didn't work in one of the cigarette factories.

The school breakfast is a much later addition. Early to mid-70s if I
remember, although it WAS driven in part by concern that the USDA was having
so much surplus food to warehouse.

It was actually originally proposed as a cost cutting measure, because
distributing surplus food to the schools cost less than destroying it.

I don't know that I blame parental neglect for kids going to shcool hungry
as much as I see parental ignorance  poverty. Parents who don't know any
better, or don't have the resources, rather than parents who don't care.

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Re: PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread Larry Colen


On Mar 14, 2010, at 1:58 PM, 27...@comcast.net wrote:


Looks a little like an art work...


Now that's what I call damning with faint praise.

I'd say that it's definitely art.



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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller
Great subject  decent light, but the space between the LH tree and the LH 
edge is bothersome to me. Given the confines you had to put up with I'd 
probably crop out that space  include what ever remains of the tree.
For me the interest in this shot is mostly the shape of the barn  the 
brightly lit barn wood features.


Good eye !

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Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn



I like it cropped like this. Definitely a worthy subject, nicely  rendered.

My first instinct was to say that you ought to crop into the barn a  bit 
on the left as well, but then you'd lose that tree. So I think you 
handled it just right.


Paul
On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

On my way home from taking care of an errand, I took a street (Bogue  Rd) 
I hadn't been on for some years. I recorded this east facing  barn and, 
early this AM, returned with some gear.
It's sits on an island of property surrounded by apartments and  other 
commercial structures. Had to shoot through what we call a  cyclone fence 
which resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted  to include the 
entire barn, but wasn't possible.
Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a portion. Love the detail  in 
the orig file. I have a bit of a problem with the barn peak/large  tree 
weight so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with a  camera.


Jack

Comments always welcome.

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GESO - choppy surf

2010-03-14 Thread Derby Chang

Have two GESOs this morn

The beaches were closed on Saturday because of some pretty choppy 
conditions, but few hardy souls still braved the surf.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_03/10_03_choppysurf/index.htm

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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller


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[...]


In North Carolina, a cordial is a spirituous liquor, an
alcoholic beverage, and is also only available in specialty
shops, i.e. state controlled ABC stores.

Blame it all on the Southern Baptist Convention. We have to
constantly fight them for the right to consume any alcohol at all.


When I spent a weekend in NC a few years ago we had to drive about 35 
miles
each way from the town we were in to find somewhere that would serve us 
with

a drink. When we got there it was like one those bars you see in Burt
Reynolds films. Most educational.


Did you hear banjos?

plinka plink plink plink  think Deliverance


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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/3/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

Cotty, you'll be back at Grandfather Mountain again someday, and you're
going to have to sleep some time.

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Re: peso - portrait

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller

I'd like it more if the background was a little less pronounced.

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/4430214904/

I am not sure about this one, need your comments and critique.

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Re: PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread ann sanfedele

Yummy, Dag

ann

DagT wrote:


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Re: PAW10 - shadows

2010-03-14 Thread P N Stenquist

Intriguing. A fascinating photograph.
Paul
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Re: GESO - choppy surf

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Derby,
Some nice catches!  My favorites are with the surfer two-thirds of the
way into the frame and coming at us.  I've never seen a guy surfing
with a hat on.  If I didn't know better I'd say it was Frank.  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Have two GESOs this morn

 The beaches were closed on Saturday because of some pretty choppy
 conditions, but few hardy souls still braved the surf.

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_03/10_03_choppysurf/index.htm

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GESO - PoleCandy Amateur Pole Competition

2010-03-14 Thread Derby Chang


You can't deny this stuff takes some amazing physical dexterity. I find 
it mesmerising to watch


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Re: Peso Red River

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller

Probably a Chevy.

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- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com

Subject: Peso Red River



Hi all.

Saturday was a damp heavy overcast, rainy day, so what better to do
than go shot pictures.

Found myself at the bottom end of the Holland marsh, and stopped at
took a series of shots of this part of the river, heavy with spring
run off.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10804810

K10D, 16-45 iso 100 f22 1/6 shutter. Some adjusting in LR2 but nothing 
special.

Hand held as some one forgot to take the quick release off of the D200
and put it back on the Slik pro 700.

Comments welcome

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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Ken. Inclusion of the far tree is a must! The crop is a bit for my 
comfort as it is. If I were to change anything it would be to push back the 
right edge a little.

Jack

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 2:25 PM
 Great subject  decent light, but
 the space between the LH tree and the LH edge is bothersome
 to me. Given the confines you had to put up with I'd
 probably crop out that space  include what ever remains
 of the tree.
 For me the interest in this shot is mostly the shape of the
 barn  the brightly lit barn wood features.
 
 Good eye !
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
 
 
  I like it cropped like this. Definitely a worthy
 subject, nicely  rendered.
  
  My first instinct was to say that you ought to crop
 into the barn a  bit on the left as well, but then
 you'd lose that tree. So I think you handled it just right.
  
  Paul
  On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  
  On my way home from taking care of an errand, I
 took a street (Bogue  Rd) I hadn't been on for some
 years. I recorded this east facing  barn and, early
 this AM, returned with some gear.
  It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
 apartments and  other commercial structures. Had to
 shoot through what we call a  cyclone fence which
 resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted  to
 include the entire barn, but wasn't possible.
  Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a
 portion. Love the detail  in the orig file. I have a
 bit of a problem with the barn peak/large  tree weight
 so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with
 a  camera.
  
  Jack
  
  Comments always welcome.
  
  K20, DA 16~45, hand held
  
  http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462
 
 
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RE: GESO - PoleCandy Amateur Pole Competition

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 You can't deny this stuff takes some amazing physical 
 dexterity. I find it mesmerising to watch
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_03/10_03_polecandy/index.htm
 

Maybe Cotty'll post some of the footage he shot last week of me and Chris
Mitchell pole-dancing for Alma.

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RE: GESO - choppy surf

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
 Have two GESOs this morn
 
 The beaches were closed on Saturday because of some pretty 
 choppy conditions, but few hardy souls still braved the surf.
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_03/10_03_choppysurf/
 index.htm

Nice stuff


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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller
Jack, I was suggesting eliminating the space between the tree and the LH 
edge, not the tree.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn


Thanks, Ken. Inclusion of the far tree is a must! The crop is a bit for my 
comfort as it is. If I were to change anything it would be to push back the 
right edge a little.


Jack

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From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 2:25 PM
Great subject  decent light, but
the space between the LH tree and the LH edge is bothersome
to me. Given the confines you had to put up with I'd
probably crop out that space  include what ever remains
of the tree.
For me the interest in this shot is mostly the shape of the
barn  the brightly lit barn wood features.

Good eye !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - From: P N Stenquist 
pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn


 I like it cropped like this. Definitely a worthy
subject, nicely rendered.

 My first instinct was to say that you ought to crop
into the barn a bit on the left as well, but then
you'd lose that tree. So I think you handled it just right.

 Paul
 On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

 On my way home from taking care of an errand, I
took a street (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some
years. I recorded this east facing barn and, early
this AM, returned with some gear.
 It's sits on an island of property surrounded by
apartments and other commercial structures. Had to
shoot through what we call a cyclone fence which
resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted to
include the entire barn, but wasn't possible.
 Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a
portion. Love the detail in the orig file. I have a
bit of a problem with the barn peak/large tree weight
so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment with
a camera.

 Jack

 Comments always welcome.

 K20, DA 16~45, hand held

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462


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PESO - LP, Jr.

2010-03-14 Thread Brendan MacRae
Some guitar porn for your Sunday morning.

http://www.primelensphoto.com/les_paul/index.html

Sold years ago, :-(

K1000 and Tri-X, I believe. San Francisco, 1993.

-Brendan


  

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Re: Digital Darkroom

2010-03-14 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net

Subject: Re: Digital Darkroom


Godfrey:  Calumet  Photo has the Moab Leather binders 12 x 13 for
$59.99--and you're right!  they look very nice!
http://www.calumetphoto.com/item/LR4817/?t=GB01a=CA01CAWELAID=219154526
I just check B  H and they have the Moab Chinle Ice Nin Portfolio Kit.
It's not leather, but looks interesting.

The clam shell Century boxes are just what I need--thanks for the product
reco!

You should do a how-to article for your web site on how you make those
corner and hanging mounts  :-).

It's Rototrim for me then!  :-)  And thanks for the advice on choosing a
size!

The low end printer idea was something I read somewhere, and I included the
idea on the list to see if anyone thought it was a good or unnecessary idea.
I got my answer!  :-).

I haven't tried the Moab Summerset Velvet, might do so.  I have tried
Hahnemühle Bamboo-it was good--yep, I'd consider including that in the mix.

Big thanks  cheers, Godfrey!  Suggestions and tips very much appreciated.
Christine






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Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:20 AM
Subject: Re: Digital Darkroom



*Printing*
-Exhibit quality printer
-3 full sets of ink for above
-storage space for above printer parts
-good stable printer stand
-printer cover
-Low-end printer for 4 x 6 proofs
- full sets of ink for above
-Paper Stash
13 x 19 inch:
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
Epson Velvet Fine Art
8 ½ x 11 inch:
Ilford Gold Fiber Silk
Epson Velvet Fine Art
4 x 6 inch:
Epson Ultra Premium Glossy


Why buy two printers and stock several different sizes/types of paper
and ink, and not have the proofs match the finals?

- Epson R3800 or R4880 printer.
- Due to the ink tank size, one spare set of ink tanks
- High quality paper cutter
- 17x22 sheet stock of your favorite three or four papers (I print on
Epson Velvet Fine Art, Hahnemühle Bamboo, and Moab Somerset Velvet
Enhanced. Very occasionally I print a little on Epson Exhibition
Fiber, but I don't like doing so because I have to switch to Photo
Black and the surface is more fragile. But it sure looks nice when an
air-dried gloss finish is appropriate...)

Gang-print many images in small sizes to your proof size on big
sheets. Now your proofs will match your finals, and be more economical
at the same time.

When you need a volume of 4x6 prints, have a print service run them.
It's cheaper and the quality is as good as it needs to be.


*Print Preparation*
-High end paper cutter (*)


You want a Rototrim paper cutter, standard of the industry. Pick one
size larger than what you think you need. I bought 15 inch, should
have gotten 24 inch.


-Mounting materials (*)
Photomount Spray?
Double sided mounting tabs


I use Scotch 3M cold-mount positionable mounting adhesive for some
things. Otherwise I make corner and hanger mounts of archival paper,
taped with archival linen mounting tape.


*Portfolio Stuff*
-Transport Portfolio (*)
-Professional Portfolio (*)


Moab makes some beautiful leather portfolio binders, expensive as hell
but gorgeous. I use Century Boxes mostly, however, or package a
portfolio as a folio style presentation to present to potential
clients and gallery people (loose prints in an elegant, fitted heavy
paper cover ... I designed my own covers, had a die made to cut them,
and have them cut for me at a local volume paper/printing house.) Each
folio can handle a presentation up to about 20 prints in size.

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 Oh, and btw, I am a huge advocate for forced sterilisation of 
 women until they attain a certain level of parental education 
 and a certain age and are able to prove their ability to 
 provide for their kids.  Sure, it breaches about every single 
 human right in the book - but what about the rights of the 
 poor neglected and abused kids that did not ask to be born 
 and who are delivered square into the middle of the poverty 
 cycle with few prospects for their lives except to continue 
 the cycle themselves through lack of education and resources.

That's a great idea. You could call it the Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken
Nachwuchses.

If that doesn't work out you could grow a toothbrush-shaped moustache
somewhere.





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RE: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

2010-03-14 Thread Tanya Love
My point exactly!

Tan.

-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
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Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Useful resource: Pentax P-TTL flash comparison

On 14 March 2010 09:03, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't watch these TV judge shows, the SO does, but she called me 
 into the TV room last week for a Joe Brown segment , someone suing a 
 wedding photographer for blurry and soft photos.

 Banter, banter, blah blah etc, then he asked the girl what camera she 
 used and how long she has been doing this. Her reply was a Canon rebel 
 and about 1 year.
 His response was, a Canon rebel is not a pro camera, proceded to ask 
 if tripod was used etc.(he apparently used to be a photographer)

 Nothing to do with this thread, I just remembered that segment and 
 thought his response was funny.

 Dave

Funny, just yesterday I was writing a post for my blog about photographers
on court TV--this case is most definitely in my post. To add some details,
the photographer showed up at to the church ceremony (where strobes weren't
allowed, according to her) with a digital rebel and kit lens. When the judge
asked her what apertures the lens had, she didn't know. Of course, the
photos were rubbish.

Here's the post:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/03/14/when-photographers-go-to-court/

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K-x battery report

2010-03-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Just a quick note - I shot the double gymnastics meet yesterday -
about 8 hours of shooting.  I took a little over 4000 pictures using
AF-C most of the time.  Almost the entire meet ended up being shot at
6400 ISO.

Anyway,  I ended up using 4 sets of batteries.  2 sets of Eneloops, 1
set Rayovac (eneloop type of chemistry) and 1 set of Sony 2700mh
batteries.  I did much better than I thought I was going to do.  The
battery meter seemed more accurate than previous Pentax models, where
it is basically full and then all of the sudden empty.  The K-x
showed them gradually going down.

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Re: GESO - PoleCandy Amateur Pole Competition

2010-03-14 Thread David Savage
Excellent gallery!

DS

On 15 March 2010 05:57, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 You can't deny this stuff takes some amazing physical dexterity. I find it
 mesmerising to watch

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_03/10_03_polecandy/index.htm

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RE: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Tanya Love
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15/03/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 That's a great idea. You could call it the Gesetz zur Verhütung erbkranken
 Nachwuchses.

 If that doesn't work out you could grow a toothbrush-shaped moustache
 somewhere.

or Gesetz zur Verhütung von Bogan Eltern

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Re: PESO: Bogue Barn

2010-03-14 Thread Jack Davis
I really see no room between the base of the tree and the frame edge. As I read 
your first post, you suggested I remove the space between the edge and the tree 
and leave whatever remains of the tree. For me, it's uncomfortably close as 
is. As I would guess you are aware, if any element of an image is close to the 
frame edge it tends to connect.
Thanks for commenting.

Jack


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 From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 3:39 PM
 Jack, I was suggesting eliminating
 the space between the tree and the LH edge, not the tree.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
 - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
 
 
 Thanks, Ken. Inclusion of the far tree is a must! The crop
 is a bit for my comfort as it is. If I were to change
 anything it would be to push back the right edge a little.
 
 Jack
 
 --- On Sun, 3/14/10, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
 wrote:
 
  From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
  Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
  Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 2:25 PM
  Great subject  decent light, but
  the space between the LH tree and the LH edge is
 bothersome
  to me. Given the confines you had to put up with I'd
  probably crop out that space  include what ever
 remains
  of the tree.
  For me the interest in this shot is mostly the shape
 of the
  barn  the brightly lit barn wood features.
  
  Good eye !
  
  Kenneth Waller
  http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
  
  - Original Message - From: P N Stenquist
 pnstenqu...@comcast.net
  Subject: Re: PESO: Bogue Barn
  
  
   I like it cropped like this. Definitely a worthy
  subject, nicely rendered.
  
   My first instinct was to say that you ought to
 crop
  into the barn a bit on the left as well, but then
  you'd lose that tree. So I think you handled it just
 right.
  
   Paul
   On Mar 13, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
  
   On my way home from taking care of an errand,
 I
  took a street (Bogue Rd) I hadn't been on for some
  years. I recorded this east facing barn and, early
  this AM, returned with some gear.
   It's sits on an island of property surrounded
 by
  apartments and other commercial structures. Had to
  shoot through what we call a cyclone fence which
  resulted in my needing to heavily crop. Wanted to
  include the entire barn, but wasn't possible.
   Without a lot of enthusiasm, am offering a
  portion. Love the detail in the orig file. I have a
  bit of a problem with the barn peak/large tree weight
  so near the center, but WTH, I had a brief moment
 with
  a camera.
  
   Jack
  
   Comments always welcome.
  
   K20, DA 16~45, hand held
  
   http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=462
  
  
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Re: question for the brits American to English translation

2010-03-14 Thread David Savage
On 15 March 2010 02:55, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote:
 I grew up just south of Lake Erie in Ohio, and there was a variation called
 jonnycake which was a corn meal based pancake, cooked the same way.

I love johnny cake!!!

But our version is different to yours. It's more like a savoury cake
than a pancake.

DS

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