Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson

Cotty wrote:

> On 13/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> 

>>getting by on only dial-up Internet.
> 
> 
> Oh for heaven's sake. I thought you lived in a 1st world country!


Goes on holiday to Deliverance country.


That's Georgia.

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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Larry Colen


On Apr 13, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:


Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
(The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)


I'll start off with the short answer:

The K-x doesn't have any major flaws. It pretty much does everything  
somewhere between good enough and surprisingly well. Despite a couple  
of missing features (a front dial wheel and focus point lights) the UI  
is very good, and in some ways better than my K20. It is small and  
light enough that it is easy to carry with me. And, to be honest,  
there is something childishly fun about taking professional quality  
pictures with a camera that looks like it came from Toys R Us.


Every so often a product comes out that performs way beyond it's price  
range. It generally doesn't have a lot of features, and it's generally  
marketed as an entry level product, yet it ends up being bought by a  
large number of people that could make full use of much higher end  
items.  Two of these that I do, or have, owned are my NAD 3020 amp and  
the Ninja 250 that I owned for a while. The K-x nails this sweet  
spot.  As far as performance goes, it's a pretty decent $700 camera,  
that sells for $500.


Now, for the long answer:

I will say that Pentax is missing a HUGE opportunity here.  They  
should have the K-x in as many colors as they can, in as many stores  
as they can.  They should also cut the cost to the point that they are  
just barely making a profit just to get their name out there.  I was  
talking cameras tonight and someone asked "Isn't Pentax the company  
with the foveon sensors?".


I bought the K-x for it's high ISO ability.  I used replacing my K100  
as a second body as an excuse.


My gut feeling is that in good light, below ISO 200 it would be very  
hard to see the difference between the images from my K20 and my K-x.  
(I have a hunch that up to maybe a 20x30 enlargement, my K100 would  
actually make the best images.)


I think that between ISO 400 and 800, the K20 actually makes superior  
images.


Above ISO 800, the K-x simply rocks.  So, if I'm shooting indoors,  
available light, I use the K-x.


I like to always have a camera handy, just in case a shot presents  
itself.  The K-x has good enough image quality at all ISOs. It  the  
same size and has a better UI than my K100 and a lot smaller than the  
K20. It simply ends up being the camera within arms reach on 80% of my  
opportunistic photos. Between it being the easiest camera to have  
handy, and the best high ISO, it ends up being the camera I use most  
of the time.


The one fly in the ointment is the "double image" problem. I don't  
know whether it is mirror slap, a resonance of the sensor to the SR,  
or what, but there seem to be a few documentable cases of it.  I  
suspect that there are far more clueless people who are blaming  
problems caused by them not being able to hold a camera properly on it.


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Re: PESO - Almost

2010-04-13 Thread Ken Waller

Nice clean capture.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

Subject: PESO - Almost



Well, I went out to get this shot better now that the rain is done,
but the light and lack of moisture on the flower, just didn't have
the dynamic power of the pic yesterday.  So this is what I took
instead:

Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/8, tripod mounted

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-4-1.htm

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis" 


Subject: Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd



On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:56:53PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:


I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.


Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem to
be nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used to be
(I know /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).


Aren't there still a bunch of guys out there with 600/f4s?


Well I've still got mine but I need a sherpa to ensure more frequent usage.

BTW My most frequently used lens is my 300mm 4.5 FA.



I have to admit that my long glass is pretty much an expensive
space filler for now - I've only used the 300/2.8 a couple of
times in the last year, and the 250-600 hasn't even come out of
the case.  I'm considering replacing the 300 (and the 80-200)
in the kit with a 60-250.  But I'll hang on to the 250-600 for
a while - I do plan to take another trip to San Diego soon.



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Re: Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread Stan Halpin
OMG, ROTFFLOL! Thak you!

I can just picture the earnest young intern faithfully recording the key 
elements of the story while totally missing the interesting stories behind the 
story. Two fires? Gorilla suit? It wouldn't be hard to believe that this was 
written by an experienced, but disaffected, copy editor who is mocking the 
drivel his editor forces him to write.

stan

On Apr 13, 2010, at 2:28 PM, Miserere wrote:

> Enjoy:
> 
> http://www.americablog.com/2010/04/best-photo-caption-ever.html
> 
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Re: Equine work

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, good to hear.  Hopefully this will work out well.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:21:21 PM, you wrote:

DJB> Well some good news any way.:-)

DJB> Last fall one of the farms i did a lot of horse shows at, decided to
DJB> do a portrait day in this spring. Just confirmed its still on for May
DJB> 15th this year.
DJB> About 15 riders along with horses and trophies etc.

DJB> I did one a few years back and it worked out well.

DJB> Deal i'm giving is 15 minute sessions, and i will sell them the CD for
DJB> $50.00. The management wants to buy one 8x10 of each student and give
DJB> them out as belated Christmas gifts, $20.00 each includes my discount.

DJB> So, looks like i can still keep my equine eye in shape and make around
DJB> $950 for the day.

DJB> It will be a long day, and what ever post processing, but thats more
DJB> profit for one day that i made in 550 man hours in 2008.:-)

DJB> Dave

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DJB> www.caughtinmotion.com
DJB> http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Every once in awhile Pentax gets something just 'right' - this is one
of those.  It is a combination of price, features, usability and
image quality.  It is certainly getting a stronger look by many of us
who would normally look at the higher end bodies, because of the high
ISO capability.

It is interesting to note that most everyone who has picked one up
has been pleasantly surprised with how capable and usable it is.  I'm
not sure how many K7 users have actually purchased one, but many of
us K20 users tend to prefer the K-x (yes, I know I am generalizing -
sure seems that way though).

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 5:29:00 PM, you wrote:

SD> Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
SD> has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
SD> the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
SD> been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
SD> (The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread Stan Halpin
I have both of these lenses. I would not part with the 77ltd! The 100 macro, on 
the other hand, is another lens. A good lens, one I use fairly often, but 
without the esthetic appeal. By analogy, the 77mm is like a Rolex or Omega 
"self-winding" wristwatch, while the 100 macro is like a competent modern 
battery driven timepiece. 

As far as functionality, if you only occasionally need macro, then find a used 
A-50mm (you don't need autofocus for macro) and buy the 77mm as well. You would 
find the 100mm too long for your usage most of the time.

stan

On Apr 12, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Tanya Love wrote:

> 
> fa 100mm f2.8 macro or fa 77m f1.8 ltd
> 
> trying to decide between the two as I can’t afford both – do I want a
> faster, smaller limited lens or a slower, larger lens with macro?
> 
> I don’t have a macro lens that I am happy with, BUT I really am loving using
> my fa 50mm f1.7 as a “leave on the body all the time” lens right now, and am
> thinking that the  FA77mm would be awesome for this purpose with just a bit
> more reach for portraits.
> 
> 
> However, not sure if I would like the 0.7m minimum focus of the 77mm.
> 
> Decisions, decisions!  What are your thoughts guys and gals?
> 
> t.x.
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PESO - Curtains Up

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
ISO 400, 1/200 sec @ f/8, handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00012-1.htm

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PESO - Almost

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, I went out to get this shot better now that the rain is done,
but the light and lack of moisture on the flower, just didn't have
the dynamic power of the pic yesterday.  So this is what I took
instead:

Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
ISO 800, 1/125 sec @ f/8, tripod mounted

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-4-1.htm

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling
Not a Pentax lens, but shot with an el-cheapo Kalimar Mirror Telephoto 
500mm on the K20D.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/500mm-lens-test-3.jpg

On 4/13/2010 9:56 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:


I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.


Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem 
to be nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used 
to be (I know /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).


I rarely use anything shorter than 200mm.  I have the 16-45 and 50-200 
DA lenses, but it's relatively rare that my usual "topics" admit the 
use of such short lenses for reasonable compositions.


Last weekend, Road Atlanta and the USERA (http://www. had a big event 
to celebrate 25 years of the Spec Racer Ford(now)|Renault(then) class, 
40 years of Road Atlanta, and some other anniversary that I don't 
remember.  It was great racing and awesome weather.


On Saturday I exposed 1,973 frames and on Sunday 500 more.  Far more 
than I expected, or really realized at the time I was doing it.  
Though I /did/ notice the "SD card wallet" getting kinda thick.  Of 
those nearly 2,500 frames, I got about 1,200 that passed the first 
cull, which I think is pretty darned good, considering it's been so long.


I was mostly practicing for Walter Mitty, which is the last weekend of 
April at Road Atlanta.  Technically, it's the Historic Sportscar 
Racing Mitty Speedfest this year, but that's marketing BS. :-)  I 
haven't gotten much shooting done at the track for the last year or 
so, so I needed the practice.


Of the 2,500 exposures, 2,100 or so were with the FA* 200/2.8, F* 
300/4.5, or the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro.  The rest were on the DA 
50-200.  I don't think I dropped the shutter once on the 16-45.  I'd 
have used the hell out of an FA* 600/4, if it made economic sense for 
me to spend that kind of geld on a hobby (other than women or racing 
:-) ).


I'll toss a few of my personal favorites from the event out there in 
the next day or two.  I got lucky a couple of times.


There were several cases where I could've used a faster machine gun 
than the K-10D.  I don't generally "machine gun" exposures, but when 
something goes wrong on track, you don't have time to think and 
compose.  You have to grab every frame you can as the action evolves.  
Or I do, at least.  When the entire fracas is over in two to three 
seconds, or a lot less, and still can cover a couple of hundred 
meters, well, my brain has never worked /that/ fast.


The frame rate isn't nearly as limiting as the buffer size.  I need at 
least three to five seconds of buffer at the highest frame rate the 
camera can achieve at max resolution, no dark frame subtraction, no 
lens distortion correction, nothing, DNG or raw, to handle those 
situations without luck playing the dominant role.


But, basically, it sometimes seems like I'm on the other end of the 
boat from most of the PDML faithful a lot of the time, any more.  Not 
whining, just noticing, maybe myopically.  And realizing full well 
that I shoot in a niche of subjects for the most part.  There just 
used to be more fellow niche dwellers a few years ago. :-)





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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:50 PM, John Francis wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:56:53PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
>> On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:
>> 
>>> I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
>>> lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.
>> 
>> Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem to  
>> be nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used to be  
>> (I know /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).
> 
> Aren't there still a bunch of guys out there with 600/f4s?
> 
> I have to admit that my long glass is pretty much an expensive
> space filler for now - I've only used the 300/2.8 a couple of
> times in the last year, and the 250-600 hasn't even come out of
> the case.  I'm considering replacing the 300 (and the 80-200)
> in the kit with a 60-250.  But I'll hang on to the 250-600 for
> a while - I do plan to take another trip to San Diego soon.
> 
I believe Ken Waller uses his 600/4 quite a bit for wildlife shooting.

> 
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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 09:56:53PM -0400, Doug Franklin wrote:
> On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:
>
>> I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
>> lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.
>
> Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem to  
> be nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used to be  
> (I know /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).

Aren't there still a bunch of guys out there with 600/f4s?

I have to admit that my long glass is pretty much an expensive
space filler for now - I've only used the 300/2.8 a couple of
times in the last year, and the 250-600 hasn't even come out of
the case.  I'm considering replacing the 300 (and the 80-200)
in the kit with a 60-250.  But I'll hang on to the 250-600 for
a while - I do plan to take another trip to San Diego soon.



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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

> I do have both a K7 and K20, and it's obvious to me that the DR of the K7 is 
> far better. It renders both more shadow detail and highlights and is 
> particularly good on the hot end of the scale. I suspect it has more to do 
> with the rendering firmware than the sensor, but I certainly can't say for 
> sure.

The DPR Raw headroom tests seem to bear out your experience, there's
0.6 of a stop more DR available in the K7 according to their testing
methodology (which I find pretty lacking in practical terms). Pity I'm
never going to own a K7 to be able to directly compare. Currently the
only reason I'm keeping the K20D is just in case there's something
that I can't possibly shoot using the K-x.

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:56 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

> On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:
> 
>> I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
>> lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.
> 
> Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem to be 
> nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used to be (I know 
> /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).
> 
> I rarely use anything shorter than 200mm.  I have the 16-45 and 50-200 DA 
> lenses, but it's relatively rare that my usual "topics" admit the use of such 
> short lenses for reasonable compositions.
> 
> Last weekend, Road Atlanta and the USERA (http://www. had a big event to 
> celebrate 25 years of the Spec Racer Ford(now)|Renault(then) class, 40 years 
> of Road Atlanta, and some other anniversary that I don't remember.  It was 
> great racing and awesome weather.
> 
> On Saturday I exposed 1,973 frames and on Sunday 500 more.  Far more than I 
> expected, or really realized at the time I was doing it.  Though I /did/ 
> notice the "SD card wallet" getting kinda thick.  Of those nearly 2,500 
> frames, I got about 1,200 that passed the first cull, which I think is pretty 
> darned good, considering it's been so long.
> 
> I was mostly practicing for Walter Mitty, which is the last weekend of April 
> at Road Atlanta.  Technically, it's the Historic Sportscar Racing Mitty 
> Speedfest this year, but that's marketing BS. :-)  I haven't gotten much 
> shooting done at the track for the last year or so, so I needed the practice.
> 
> Of the 2,500 exposures, 2,100 or so were with the FA* 200/2.8, F* 300/4.5, or 
> the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro.  The rest were on the DA 50-200.  I don't think 
> I dropped the shutter once on the 16-45.  I'd have used the hell out of an 
> FA* 600/4, if it made economic sense for me to spend that kind of geld on a 
> hobby (other than women or racing :-) ).
> 
> I'll toss a few of my personal favorites from the event out there in the next 
> day or two.  I got lucky a couple of times.
> 
> There were several cases where I could've used a faster machine gun than the 
> K-10D.  I don't generally "machine gun" exposures, but when something goes 
> wrong on track, you don't have time to think and compose.  You have to grab 
> every frame you can as the action evolves.  Or I do, at least.  When the 
> entire fracas is over in two to three seconds, or a lot less, and still can 
> cover a couple of hundred meters, well, my brain has never worked /that/ fast.
> 
> The frame rate isn't nearly as limiting as the buffer size.  I need at least 
> three to five seconds of buffer at the highest frame rate the camera can 
> achieve at max resolution, no dark frame subtraction, no lens distortion 
> correction, nothing, DNG or raw, to handle those situations without luck 
> playing the dominant role.
> 
> But, basically, it sometimes seems like I'm on the other end of the boat from 
> most of the PDML faithful a lot of the time, any more.  Not whining, just 
> noticing, maybe myopically.  And realizing full well that I shoot in a niche 
> of subjects for the most part.  There just used to be more fellow niche 
> dwellers a few years ago. :-)
> 

If it's any consolation my DA* 60-250 is my most used lens, and I still use the 
A400 5.6 quite a bit. I haven't shot a race in a long time but hope to again 
one of these days. 
Paul

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Re: Exhibit details

2010-04-13 Thread ann sanfedele


Christine Aguila wrote:

...I think Paul makes several great points here--and gives great 
advice, especially to folks like me who have little exhibit 
experience.  And I agree with his point about the difficulty in 
selling photography--especially in these recessionary times.  But 
still, everyone involved in this exhibit is going to do their best to 
promote the exhibit with the hope that work will sell.  But whatever 
happens, we should  feel proud of PDML and ALL its list members 
because the exhibit--for me-- is really a metaphor for the entire PDML 
community, which supports all members--an international virtual space 
where professional and developing talent come together in a 
cooperative, helpful way.  I'm very proud to say that for 6 weeks come 
May 2010 the spirit of all PDML will hang from the walls in a little 
spot of my home town, Chicago.


And one last point:  Mark Roberts has gone above and beyond the call 
of duty for both the exhibit and our 2nd PDML Annual.  If you are 
coming to Chicago, please give him a big hug and buy the guy a drink 
of his choice.  Frankly, I don't think Mark Roberts should have to pay 
for a drink the whole weekend we are in Chicago :-).
Big cheers to everyone, Christine 



You're gonna let him drink???

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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 14/04/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> No roasting:-). But based on what I've seen, I think the K7 sensor is 
>> considerably better than the Kx at all but high ISO. And even at high ISO, 
>> it renders more detail. Now, I don't have both cameras, so my opinion is 
>> based on impressions gleaned from web images, but I'd be surprised if real 
>> testing didn't reveal the same. That being said, I think the Kx is a fine 
>> camera for the money. It doesn't match my shooting style or needs, so I 
>> wouldn't want one, but I applaud the success that Pentax has had with it.
> 
> I'm sure that the K7 has a slight resolution advantage, but as soon as
> I stitch even just a pair of images the resolution argument is
> absolutely null and void. These days resolution is easy to achieve, if
> you absolutely need to capture the image in one shot sure the K7 would
> have a slight advantage but a top line Canon would do the job far
> better in every performance metric but physical size.
> 
> Regarding low ISO shots I'm sure the K-x would have a DR advantage
> over the K7 (there's just nothing between the K20 and K7 in this
> regard and I know the K20 has less available DR as I can compare them
> side by side).

I do have both a K7 and K20, and it's obvious to me that the DR of the K7 is 
far better. It renders both more shadow detail and highlights and is 
particularly good on the hot end of the scale. I suspect it has more to do with 
the rendering firmware than the sensor, but I certainly can't say for sure.
Paul

> The high ISO advantage of the K-x has to be personally
> experienced to appreciate I expect, the successor to the K7 will
> hopefully make this performance advantage more apparent.
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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-04-13 20:25, Graydon wrote:


I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.


Geez, I feel so out of place around here sometimes.  There don't seem to 
be nearly as many "long glass" shooters on the PDML as there used to be 
(I know /you're/ there, John Francis :-) ).


I rarely use anything shorter than 200mm.  I have the 16-45 and 50-200 
DA lenses, but it's relatively rare that my usual "topics" admit the use 
of such short lenses for reasonable compositions.


Last weekend, Road Atlanta and the USERA (http://www. had a big event to 
celebrate 25 years of the Spec Racer Ford(now)|Renault(then) class, 40 
years of Road Atlanta, and some other anniversary that I don't remember. 
 It was great racing and awesome weather.


On Saturday I exposed 1,973 frames and on Sunday 500 more.  Far more 
than I expected, or really realized at the time I was doing it.  Though 
I /did/ notice the "SD card wallet" getting kinda thick.  Of those 
nearly 2,500 frames, I got about 1,200 that passed the first cull, which 
I think is pretty darned good, considering it's been so long.


I was mostly practicing for Walter Mitty, which is the last weekend of 
April at Road Atlanta.  Technically, it's the Historic Sportscar Racing 
Mitty Speedfest this year, but that's marketing BS. :-)  I haven't 
gotten much shooting done at the track for the last year or so, so I 
needed the practice.


Of the 2,500 exposures, 2,100 or so were with the FA* 200/2.8, F* 
300/4.5, or the Sigma APO 400/5.6 Macro.  The rest were on the DA 
50-200.  I don't think I dropped the shutter once on the 16-45.  I'd 
have used the hell out of an FA* 600/4, if it made economic sense for me 
to spend that kind of geld on a hobby (other than women or racing :-) ).


I'll toss a few of my personal favorites from the event out there in the 
next day or two.  I got lucky a couple of times.


There were several cases where I could've used a faster machine gun than 
the K-10D.  I don't generally "machine gun" exposures, but when 
something goes wrong on track, you don't have time to think and compose. 
 You have to grab every frame you can as the action evolves.  Or I do, 
at least.  When the entire fracas is over in two to three seconds, or a 
lot less, and still can cover a couple of hundred meters, well, my brain 
has never worked /that/ fast.


The frame rate isn't nearly as limiting as the buffer size.  I need at 
least three to five seconds of buffer at the highest frame rate the 
camera can achieve at max resolution, no dark frame subtraction, no lens 
distortion correction, nothing, DNG or raw, to handle those situations 
without luck playing the dominant role.


But, basically, it sometimes seems like I'm on the other end of the boat 
from most of the PDML faithful a lot of the time, any more.  Not 
whining, just noticing, maybe myopically.  And realizing full well that 
I shoot in a niche of subjects for the most part.  There just used to be 
more fellow niche dwellers a few years ago. :-)


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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, paul stenquist  wrote:

> No roasting:-). But based on what I've seen, I think the K7 sensor is 
> considerably better than the Kx at all but high ISO. And even at high ISO, it 
> renders more detail. Now, I don't have both cameras, so my opinion is based 
> on impressions gleaned from web images, but I'd be surprised if real testing 
> didn't reveal the same. That being said, I think the Kx is a fine camera for 
> the money. It doesn't match my shooting style or needs, so I wouldn't want 
> one, but I applaud the success that Pentax has had with it.

I'm sure that the K7 has a slight resolution advantage, but as soon as
I stitch even just a pair of images the resolution argument is
absolutely null and void. These days resolution is easy to achieve, if
you absolutely need to capture the image in one shot sure the K7 would
have a slight advantage but a top line Canon would do the job far
better in every performance metric but physical size.

Regarding low ISO shots I'm sure the K-x would have a DR advantage
over the K7 (there's just nothing between the K20 and K7 in this
regard and I know the K20 has less available DR as I can compare them
side by side). The high ISO advantage of the K-x has to be personally
experienced to appreciate I expect, the successor to the K7 will
hopefully make this performance advantage more apparent.

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Re: Exhibit details

2010-04-13 Thread Miserere
On 13 April 2010 21:25, Christine  Aguila  wrote:
>
> I think Paul makes several great points here--and gives great advice,
> especially to folks like me who have little exhibit experience.  And I agree
> with his point about the difficulty in selling photography--especially in
> these recessionary times.  But still, everyone involved in this exhibit is
> going to do their best to promote the exhibit with the hope that work will
> sell.  But whatever happens, we should  feel proud of PDML and ALL its list
> members because the exhibit--for me-- is really a metaphor for the entire
> PDML community, which supports all members--an international virtual space
> where professional and developing talent come together in a cooperative,
> helpful way.  I'm very proud to say that for 6 weeks come May 2010 the
> spirit of all PDML will hang from the walls in a little spot of my home
> town, Chicago.
>
> And one last point:  Mark Roberts has gone above and beyond the call of duty
> for both the exhibit and our 2nd PDML Annual.  If you are coming to Chicago,
> please give him a big hug and buy the guy a drink of his choice.  Frankly, I
> don't think Mark Roberts should have to pay for a drink the whole weekend we
> are in Chicago :-).
> Big cheers to everyone, Christine

I second what Christine said about Mark. I've seen a lot of the
prints, heard the printer stories, and I can assure you he's gone well
beyond the call of duty. And he owed us no duty whatsoever.

Thanks Mark! I'll be sure to buy you a drink  :-)


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Re: Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread jtainter
Best photo caption?

I hope I don't get kidnapped and beheaded for this one. Go to Google and search 
on "Pointless Family Photos."

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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Tom C
I saw the Kx at a store the other day.  It had instant appeal when I
picked it up. The size and ergonomics made it seem like an "optic
wonder", that compact toy kids can get that are a telescope,
microscope, magnifier, compass, etc. all in one. For the money it
seemed like a camera I could see getting for my wife or son, or as a
backup.

I can't compare sensor/IQ either.

Tom C

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:17 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>
>> On 14/04/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>>> Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
>>> has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
>>> the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
>>> been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
>>> (The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)
>>
>> It's actually just a pretty decent camera, a combination of physical
>> and performance attributes that make producing a decent image easy and
>> fun.
>>
>> I'll probably get roasted for the following but I think that the
>> decision Pentax took to go with the Samsung sensors in the later DSLRs
>> was a poor one, maybe it got them out of potential insolvency but
>> honestly their image quality was not comparable to the competition.
>> It's such a pity that the K7 doesn't contain better sensor (mainly
>> from and DR, noise and sensitivity perspective), it would really be
>> quite an impressive camera then.
>>
> No roasting:-). But based on what I've seen, I think the K7 sensor is 
> considerably better than the Kx at all but high ISO. And even at high ISO, it 
> renders more detail. Now, I don't have both cameras, so my opinion is based 
> on impressions gleaned from web images, but I'd be surprised if real testing 
> didn't reveal the same. That being said, I think the Kx is a fine camera for 
> the money. It doesn't match my shooting style or needs, so I wouldn't want 
> one, but I applaud the success that Pentax has had with it.
> Paul
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Re: Exhibit details

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

From: "paul stenquist" 

Only you can determine what your work is worth. If you've displayed in 
galleries before, you probably >have an idea. But if not, figure you'll 
want to recoup the cost of printing and framing, plus the 30% the >gallery 
gets, plus a small profit. That will probably bring you to a number close 
to $300 as an asking >price. Then how low would you go just to unload the 
print. Shipping it back home adds more to your >cost.. That being said, 
photography is a tough sell in any gallery that I've ever seen. Showing in 
a gallery >is more about having fun and self promotion. It's not a good 
way to earn a living.



I think Paul makes several great points here--and gives great advice, 
especially to folks like me who have little exhibit experience.  And I agree 
with his point about the difficulty in selling photography--especially in 
these recessionary times.  But still, everyone involved in this exhibit is 
going to do their best to promote the exhibit with the hope that work will 
sell.  But whatever happens, we should  feel proud of PDML and ALL its list 
members because the exhibit--for me-- is really a metaphor for the entire 
PDML community, which supports all members--an international virtual space 
where professional and developing talent come together in a cooperative, 
helpful way.  I'm very proud to say that for 6 weeks come May 2010 the 
spirit of all PDML will hang from the walls in a little spot of my home 
town, Chicago.


And one last point:  Mark Roberts has gone above and beyond the call of duty 
for both the exhibit and our 2nd PDML Annual.  If you are coming to Chicago, 
please give him a big hug and buy the guy a drink of his choice.  Frankly, I 
don't think Mark Roberts should have to pay for a drink the whole weekend we 
are in Chicago :-).

Big cheers to everyone, Christine





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Re: PESO - Howl

2010-04-13 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Great image, wonderful grab!
>
> Where is that sculpture?

It's in Toronto's Trinity-Bellwoods Park in the Queen West area.

Glad you liked it!  And thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 13, 2010, at 9:04 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 14/04/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
>> has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
>> the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
>> been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
>> (The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)
> 
> It's actually just a pretty decent camera, a combination of physical
> and performance attributes that make producing a decent image easy and
> fun.
> 
> I'll probably get roasted for the following but I think that the
> decision Pentax took to go with the Samsung sensors in the later DSLRs
> was a poor one, maybe it got them out of potential insolvency but
> honestly their image quality was not comparable to the competition.
> It's such a pity that the K7 doesn't contain better sensor (mainly
> from and DR, noise and sensitivity perspective), it would really be
> quite an impressive camera then.
> 
No roasting:-). But based on what I've seen, I think the K7 sensor is 
considerably better than the Kx at all but high ISO. And even at high ISO, it 
renders more detail. Now, I don't have both cameras, so my opinion is based on 
impressions gleaned from web images, but I'd be surprised if real testing 
didn't reveal the same. That being said, I think the Kx is a fine camera for 
the money. It doesn't match my shooting style or needs, so I wouldn't want one, 
but I applaud the success that Pentax has had with it.
Paul
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-04-13 19:02, Rob Studdert wrote:


I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but
unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred


That's /exactly/ why I won't put his name, or even recognizable 
"nicknames" of him into a post.  I don't want to contribute to his 
"Google Cred".


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Re: Equine work

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
Good news Dave.  Your in line for some.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:21 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Well some good news any way.:-)
>
> Last fall one of the farms i did a lot of horse shows at, decided to
> do a portrait day in this spring. Just confirmed its still on for May
> 15th this year.
> About 15 riders along with horses and trophies etc.
>
> I did one a few years back and it worked out well.
>
> Deal i'm giving is 15 minute sessions, and i will sell them the CD for
> $50.00. The management wants to buy one 8x10 of each student and give
> them out as belated Christmas gifts, $20.00 each includes my discount.
>
> So, looks like i can still keep my equine eye in shape and make around
> $950 for the day.
>
> It will be a long day, and what ever post processing, but thats more
> profit for one day that i made in 550 man hours in 2008.:-)
>
> Dave
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Re: What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
> has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
> the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
> been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
> (The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)

It's actually just a pretty decent camera, a combination of physical
and performance attributes that make producing a decent image easy and
fun.

I'll probably get roasted for the following but I think that the
decision Pentax took to go with the Samsung sensors in the later DSLRs
was a poor one, maybe it got them out of potential insolvency but
honestly their image quality was not comparable to the competition.
It's such a pity that the K7 doesn't contain better sensor (mainly
from and DR, noise and sensitivity perspective), it would really be
quite an impressive camera then.

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Re: OT PESOs - Film is king, the king is dead

2010-04-13 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 05:32:41PM +0100, Cotty scripsit:
> On 12/4/10, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> > the canted top plate
> >makes a lot of sense (especially, I imagine on a 645). I recant
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> 

Does that thing has a screen in a rotary switch of some kind?

Cotty, you *know* they're going to stick a full frame sensor in the 645D
body and sell it for about 3 kUSD under a name no one could possibly
have predicted.  And we can all have a good thrash about having to buy
medium format lenses for it.

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What's up with the K-x?

2010-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
Ok, so we're all having fun with the inexpensive little Pentax that
has this annoying habit of producing fine images.  Why is that?  Is
the sensor and electronics that much better?  I'm just curious.  It's
been a while since one of the low end cameras caused such a fuss.
(The colors have been an amusing touch as well.)

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:06:28PM -0400, paul stenquist scripsit:
> Uh, a small, light 100mm f1..8 is a physical impossibility. It has
> nothing to do with Pentax's expertise or lack of  the same.

If you use glass, yeah.  It's going to have a certain mass to it.

If you could use diamond diffraction grating lenses, maybe not.  Going
to be awhile before that hits retail, though. :)

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Re: Equine work

2010-04-13 Thread ann sanfedele

Great Dave --
too bad it didnt come sooner to pay for a trip to CHI

ann

David J Brooks wrote:


Well some good news any way.:-)

Last fall one of the farms i did a lot of horse shows at, decided to
do a portrait day in this spring. Just confirmed its still on for May
15th this year.
About 15 riders along with horses and trophies etc.

I did one a few years back and it worked out well.

Deal i'm giving is 15 minute sessions, and i will sell them the CD for
$50.00. The management wants to buy one 8x10 of each student and give
them out as belated Christmas gifts, $20.00 each includes my discount.

So, looks like i can still keep my equine eye in shape and make around
$950 for the day.

It will be a long day, and what ever post processing, but thats more
profit for one day that i made in 550 man hours in 2008.:-)

Dave

 





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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread Graydon
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 09:03:31PM +1000, Tanya Love scripsit:
> fa 100mm f2.8 macro or fa 77m f1.8 ltd

The FA 100 hurts a lot when you drop it on your foot.  The 77 much less.

I find the FA100 is an excellent general purpose things-out-of-reach
lens; inside at the zoo, flowers, stuff across the room, etc.  It's not
unobtrusive and it's not a particular good portrait lens and cleaning
the front element is an unmitigated pain because it's deeply embedded in
the casing.  The 77 is surprisingly unobtrusive and makes a good candid
portrait lens.  It's not good for really close shots of anything, but
does nicely at leaning over the fence to take pictures of the roses
sorts of shots.

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Re: Equine work

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Way to go, Dave!!!  Very happy for you.  Big cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 7:21 PM
Subject: Equine work



Well some good news any way.:-)

Last fall one of the farms i did a lot of horse shows at, decided to
do a portrait day in this spring. Just confirmed its still on for May
15th this year.
About 15 riders along with horses and trophies etc.

I did one a few years back and it worked out well.

Deal i'm giving is 15 minute sessions, and i will sell them the CD for
$50.00. The management wants to buy one 8x10 of each student and give
them out as belated Christmas gifts, $20.00 each includes my discount.

So, looks like i can still keep my equine eye in shape and make around
$950 for the day.

It will be a long day, and what ever post processing, but thats more
profit for one day that i made in 550 man hours in 2008.:-)

Dave

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Equine work

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
Well some good news any way.:-)

Last fall one of the farms i did a lot of horse shows at, decided to
do a portrait day in this spring. Just confirmed its still on for May
15th this year.
About 15 riders along with horses and trophies etc.

I did one a few years back and it worked out well.

Deal i'm giving is 15 minute sessions, and i will sell them the CD for
$50.00. The management wants to buy one 8x10 of each student and give
them out as belated Christmas gifts, $20.00 each includes my discount.

So, looks like i can still keep my equine eye in shape and make around
$950 for the day.

It will be a long day, and what ever post processing, but thats more
profit for one day that i made in 550 man hours in 2008.:-)

Dave

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Re: PESO -- A lot of glass`

2010-04-13 Thread drd1135
I'm honored. 
-Original Message-
From: "P. J. Alling" 
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:31:16 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO -- A lot of glass`

AAARRGGG.  That is the worst pun...
(on a list known for them no less).

On 4/13/2010 2:22 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> O.  A mug shot.;-)
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:07 AM, P. J. Alling
>   wrote:
>
>> I don't know if I acheaved what I was trying for but what the heck
>>
>> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20alotofglass.html
>>
>> Equipment: Pentax K20D/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited
>>
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread paul stenquist

On Apr 13, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

> On 14/04/2010, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> Oh that was pricless. Thanks
>> 
>> Is that Rob S our Rob.??
> 
> I only talk to CRK when I absolutely have to and that's generally when
> I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but
> unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred
> because of the interest generated by Pentax centric forums like this,
> sad how it works but true. One of my good mates (who just purchased a
> D90) pointed me to some references on Kennyboys site the other day,
> same thing.
> 
Not only is Kim misinformed. He can't write a lick. That helps make his site 
tedious.

Of course there's not a single ad anywhere to be seen on his pages, so he's not 
making a dime. I guess there's a measure of justice in that.
Paul
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Re: Chicago List Thus Far

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Thanks!  I've written down Diane.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Theodore Beilby" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Chicago List Thus Far


Christine, My wife's name is Diane. See you soon.

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Re: OT Ouch

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila
Sorry about your news, Dave.  Hope things eventually work out.  Cheers, 
Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "David J Brooks" 

To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Barbara Brooks" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 5:18 PM
Subject: OT Ouch



Well Liz and I heard form the "new" bus company today. I was already
at my first school when they called, and Liz told me of the phone
call.
Seems all of the Stouffville runs are gone, only thing available for
us are two runs in Aurora and Newmarket south. With these runs we
would not be able to park locally, we would have to drive to their
yard all the time.
I have decided, for now, to take the one offered to me, Liz will let
them know Wednesday morning.

So, now i have to add more insurance to the truck, spend more on fuel,
and take about a 5-10% pay cut. I already took a 70% pay cut form my
previous job to this one.

Arg. Well at least i have time to  look around at other options..

Dave



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Re: PESO - Lattice

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Very pretty, Bruce.  You have great looking kids.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: PESO - Lattice



Someone gave me this lattice work to use for a background.  I thought
I better take a couple of test shots to see how it was.  This is my
second daughter (the one who is always hogging my storm trooper).

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00042.htm

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Re: Sweet Japanese Maple

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

That's pretty, John.  cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "John Sessoms" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:52 PM
Subject: PESO: Sweet Japanese Maple


Went out to Raulston Arboretum in Raleigh mid-day today. Just wanted to 
get out and photograph SOMETHING! It's either that or cut the damn grass 
(which I'm going to have to do this afternoon anyway).


I was struck by the color of the Japanese Maple.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/4515958550/sizes/o/

Brought it home & played with it for just about 5 minutes to create a 
"Tony Sweet" image.


Just a layer with a bit of Gaussian Blur at about 60% opacity over the 
image plus a saturation boost adjustment layer at about 25% opacity.


Also tried to do it using motion blur layer, but that didn't seem to work 
so well.


Anyway, say what you will, I think it turned out OK for just goofing 
around.


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Re: PESO Ok just one more...

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila

Very fun, Rob!  cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "Rob Studdert" 

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Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 8:59 AM
Subject: PESO Ok just one more...



Hi Team,

The last K-x pano for a while, I promise!

It consists of 2x portrait shots, again hand held using my trusty old
A24/2.8 1/10th f4 @ ISO1250, I hope you enjoy the Harf.

http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01331.jpg

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Re: Chicago List Thus Far

2010-04-13 Thread Christine Aguila


- Original Message - 
From: "Miserere" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: Chicago List Thus Far


Christine,

I'm not sure whether my wife will be attending dinner or not. Her
parents live near Chicago an she'll be spending the day with them. How
early/late do you need to know?


Don't worry about it, Miserere.  If she joins us for dinner at the last 
moment it will be totally cool.  Not a problem at all.  Cheers, Christine 




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Re: PESO Ok just one more...

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, Larry Colen  wrote:

> That's good, any more like this and I'll have to start working on doing
> panos.

Hi Larry, I try not to be overly conscious about shooting panos, if I
see something that might benefit from the process I just shoot a few
overlapping frames, if it works to stitch great, otherwise I generally
still have purposefully composed single shots. The best way yo get
into it is to buy a decent package like Autopano Pro, you can then
test the pano sets very easily, it really negates the tedium. Though I
should say that any pano that I really want to do well I still hand
assemble in Hugin (though I'm pissed with it at the moment as the
blend application generating random 1 pixel lines through my 100MP
composites)

> I'm impressed that the street lights aren't blown out. That's without HDR
> even?

Yep, most often I just pick a manual exposure which doesn't blow too
much of the detail of the brighter objects and shoot, shooting HDR is
a bit of a PITA

> Do you find that doing the same shot as a pano rather than with a wider lens
> reduces noise?

It doesn't seem to be significantly reduced in the blended areas
however of course you have an image with far more pixels in the
composite so noise per AOV is reduced (compared to a single shot with
a lens of equivalent AOV).

Thanks for the comments everyone, I have lots more panos but I'll rest
them for a while ;-)

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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Oh that was pricless. Thanks
>
> Is that Rob S our Rob.??

I only talk to CRK when I absolutely have to and that's generally when
I'm arguing about a stuffed up repair. The guy's a knob but
unfortunately he is gaining site hits and therefore Internet cred
because of the interest generated by Pentax centric forums like this,
sad how it works but true. One of my good mates (who just purchased a
D90) pointed me to some references on Kennyboys site the other day,
same thing.

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Re: PESO Not another one!

2010-04-13 Thread Rob Studdert
On 14/04/2010, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> That's a neat shot.  Lots of different brightness levels but all
> pretty well expressed.

Hi Steve, it is pretty neat, combined with the K-x's wide latitude a
multi-shot pano seems to be a better solution than an ultra-wide and
HDR in this case.

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Re: PESO Ok just one more...

2010-04-13 Thread Miserere
Kewl.


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On 13 April 2010 16:56, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> Hi Team,
>>
>> The last K-x pano for a while, I promise!
>>
>> It consists of 2x portrait shots, again hand held using my trusty old
>> A24/2.8 1/10th f4 @ ISO1250, I hope you enjoy the Harf.
>>
>> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01331.jpg
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>
> that's fun. good job.
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Re: OT Ouch

2010-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
"Damn it!"

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/13/10, David J Brooks  wrote:

> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: OT Ouch
> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Barbara Brooks" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:18 PM
> Well Liz and I heard form the "new"
> bus company today. I was already
> at my first school when they called, and Liz told me of the
> phone
> call.
> Seems all of the Stouffville runs are gone, only thing
> available for
> us are two runs in Aurora and Newmarket south. With these
> runs we
> would not be able to park locally, we would have to drive
> to their
> yard all the time.
> I have decided, for now, to take the one offered to me, Liz
> will let
> them know Wednesday morning.
> 
> So, now i have to add more insurance to the truck, spend
> more on fuel,
> and take about a 5-10% pay cut. I already took a 70% pay
> cut form my
> previous job to this one.
> 
> Arg. Well at least i have time to  look around at
> other options..
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot

2010-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Dave! Post a shot or two when they're ready.

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/13/10, David J Brooks  wrote:

> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:12 PM
> Thats a nice one. Good rich colours.
> 
> Ours are about 4 weeks away i'd say. Not much more than 2"
> of greenery
> right now.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > Drug this out between thunder heads in order to
> continue my annual tradition of posting a Columbine shot.
> > Breeze was chilly and I got a bit impatient, so went
> with what I had.
> > I would liked to have positioned the front blossom
> somewhat further to the right, but didn't want to turn the
> pot and line up the front and back blossoms either. Also,
> felt I had to have the right blossom and bud.
> > Whatever!
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=485
> >
> > K20, da16...@34mm, 1/60, ISO 100, tripod, Cable
> switch.
> >
> >
> >
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OT Ouch

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
Well Liz and I heard form the "new" bus company today. I was already
at my first school when they called, and Liz told me of the phone
call.
Seems all of the Stouffville runs are gone, only thing available for
us are two runs in Aurora and Newmarket south. With these runs we
would not be able to park locally, we would have to drive to their
yard all the time.
I have decided, for now, to take the one offered to me, Liz will let
them know Wednesday morning.

So, now i have to add more insurance to the truck, spend more on fuel,
and take about a 5-10% pay cut. I already took a 70% pay cut form my
previous job to this one.

Arg. Well at least i have time to  look around at other options..

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Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
Thats a nice one. Good rich colours.

Ours are about 4 weeks away i'd say. Not much more than 2" of greenery
right now.

Dave

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Drug this out between thunder heads in order to continue my annual tradition 
> of posting a Columbine shot.
> Breeze was chilly and I got a bit impatient, so went with what I had.
> I would liked to have positioned the front blossom somewhat further to the 
> right, but didn't want to turn the pot and line up the front and back 
> blossoms either. Also, felt I had to have the right blossom and bud.
> Whatever!
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=485
>
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>
>
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Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Luck you.
>
> Good job your spelling is still wobbly.

No I'm wobbly.

Should have been lucky you, not...

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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
Oh that was pricless. Thanks

Is that Rob S our Rob.??

Dave

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
> just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
> "inept".
>
> So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
> had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
> it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
> can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
> because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
> than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.
>
> You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
> it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
> explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
> events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
> should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
> linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
> of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
> his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
> because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.
>
> Catch all the action here:
>
> http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html
>
> I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
> not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
> to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
> them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
> really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
> reputation.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread Tim Øsleby
Thank you crew, for looking and commenting.
Are you out of bricks?

About the WB Jostein. To answer your question. I'm not sure about it.
I got a comment about pink cast on my last PESO.
So my screen may be a bit off, or I may be in a pink phase.

I have just played a bit with WB. It looks a bit more correct when I
turn it towards blue. But also duller.
So it seems I just likes pink better than grey.
Perhaps I'm parading in pink leather pants next year ;-)

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2010/4/13 AlunFoto :
> I like it.
> It's a rather messy background, but the lines of the trunks and twigs
> do somehow come together anyway. Great sharpness and pleasant pose. I
> find the beak against the darker background a more happy coincidence
> than do other commenteers. :-)
> But are you sure about the white balance? It brings out a lot of great
> colour in the bird, but the Platismatia lichen, the grey leaf-like
> one, (Papirlav) has a tint of pink on my monitor(s).
>
>
> Jostein
>
> 2010/4/13 Tim Øsleby :
>> I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
>> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
>> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.
>>
>> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
>> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
>> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.
>>
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
2010/4/13 mike wilson :
>
> _That_ is assigning entirely too much importance to them.

wasn't that done already?

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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
2010/4/13 P. J. Alling :
>
> It would be a nice idea, but using a measure that starts at ∞ (One Rockwell
> == Kennyboy)?

it is an existing measure for hardness so it fits - the harder it
hurts the more rockwell it is
and you have to admit not all kenny hurts equally bad
cheers
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread David Parsons
"Oh my"  /Sulu

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Miserere  wrote:
> I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
> just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
> "inept".
>
> So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
> had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
> it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
> can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
> because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
> than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.
>
> You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
> it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
> explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
> events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
> should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
> linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
> of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
> his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
> because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.
>
> Catch all the action here:
>
> http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html
>
> I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
> not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
> to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
> them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
> really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
> reputation.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/4/13 mike wilson :


I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening.



Mark!

I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness...


_That_ is assigning entirely too much importance to them.

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Re: PESO Ok just one more...

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Brewer

Rob Studdert wrote:

Hi Team,

The last K-x pano for a while, I promise!

It consists of 2x portrait shots, again hand held using my trusty old
A24/2.8 1/10th f4 @ ISO1250, I hope you enjoy the Harf.

http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01331.jpg

Cheers,



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Re: PESO - my annual flower photo...

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Brewer

David J Brooks wrote:

No, you had a flower shot last year to, remember.


we always hope it's a shot to remember.



On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/2010/04/12/my-annual-flower-photo/

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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling

On 4/13/2010 4:44 PM, eckinator wrote:

2010/4/13 mike wilson:
   

I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening.
 

Mark!

I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness...

   
It would be a nice idea, but using a measure that starts at ∞ (One 
Rockwell == Kennyboy)?


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Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Sullivan
He likes banjo music...  :-)

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:16 PM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Cotty wrote:
>
>> On 13/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>
>>> getting by on only dial-up Internet.
>>
>>
>> Oh for heaven's sake. I thought you lived in a 1st world country!
>
> Goes on holiday to Deliverance country.
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Re: PESO - my annual flower photo...

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Brewer

ann sanfedele wrote:

some kind of pear. Thanks. 


looks like there are more than two...


took me a while to get this.


(yeah - pretty picture:-)

ann


thanks.







On Apr 12, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:


http://www.drivingtheflies.com/2010/04/12/my-annual-flower-photo/

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Re: PESO - my annual flower photo...

2010-04-13 Thread Doug Brewer

Bob Sullivan wrote:

A Bradford Pear tree perhaps?
Funny, I just took some shots of ours this AM.
I'll be lucky to get any as nice as your's Doug.


the LCD is your friend, Bob.


Did you dodge out the 3 blossoms on the left?
or was that just tricky lighting/composition.


The lighting was a little tricky, but not too bad; CW metered and -1 EV 
to keep detail in the leaves, shot with the FA100/2.8 macro wide open on 
the K7.



Regards,  Bob S.



'ppreciate it.





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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
2010/4/13 mike wilson :
>
> I need some Rockwell to bring a note of sanity into my evening.

Mark!

I suggest ° Rockwell as a scale to measure/rate such wackiness...

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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread Ken Waller

Bruce said it all.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 


Subject: Re: PESO - Chaffinch


Very well done.  If you could have had the finch pose just a little
more to the right... - only little nits, but a great shot
nonetheless.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 9:26:34 AM, you wrote:

TØ> I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
TØ> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
TØ> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.

TØ> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
TØ> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
TØ> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.

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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

Miserere wrote:

Catch all the action here:

http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html



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Re: PESO - Spring like many others

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks for the comment.  I will try again tonight with a tripod now
that the rain has truly stopped.  Hopefully it will turn out well.
Thanks for taking a look.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 1:01:03 PM, you wrote:

KW> The thing in the LRH corner is a distraction for me.
KW> Nice light & exposure tho.

KW> Kenneth Waller
KW> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

KW> - Original Message - 
KW> From: "Bruce Dayton" 

KW> Subject: PESO - Spring like many others


>> Another High ISO K-x shot.  I had to sneak out between downpours to
>> hurry and get this shot.
>> 
>> 
>> Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
>> ISO 1600, 1/50 sec @ f/6.3, Handheld
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00063.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
>> 
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Re: PESO: Another Jersey Diner

2010-04-13 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for your comments, Jack and David.

Dan

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:04 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Yes it does. Good clean shot here. The wires add to it i think.
>
> Next time i'm down at my Dad's house, that my sister lives in, I
> should pop by our old 60's burger joint hang out.
>
> Dave
>
> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> This place used to be a classic diner, but it has been extensively
>> renovated to look more like a restaurant.  There are only a few things
>> about it that interest me:
>>
>> 1.  In its former life, when it was known as The Bridgewater Diner,
>> this was the hangout for my friends and I during senior year in high
>> school and when we we home for the summer during college.
>>
>> 2.  The current name and the sign have a classic diner quality and appeal.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10891927
>>
>> Comments, criticism and suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Dan

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Re: PESO - Spring like many others

2010-04-13 Thread Ken Waller

The thing in the LRH corner is a distraction for me.
Nice light & exposure tho.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 


Subject: PESO - Spring like many others



Another High ISO K-x shot.  I had to sneak out between downpours to
hurry and get this shot.


Pentax K-x, Tamron 90/2.8 Macro
ISO 1600, 1/50 sec @ f/6.3, Handheld

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00063.htm

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Re: For sale (ads seen on craigslist boston) ... da 14 for $420 and fa 35 for $350

2010-04-13 Thread Miserere
On 11 April 2010 14:31, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> On 4/8/2010 11:26 PM, Sam L wrote:
>>
>> These seem like pretty good deals, so I thought I would pass the info
>> on to the list in case anyone is looking to satisfy some LBA.
>>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/1683279614.html
>> Pentax FA 35mm f2 AL - $350 (Harvard SQ)
>>
>
> When this was still available new, that's what B&H was selling it for.
>
>> http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/1683276422.html
>> Pentax DA 14mm F2.8 Lens - $420 (Harvard Square)
>>
>
> That is a better price than KEH wants for one in "Like New" condition.
>  However  KEH is a known quantity.
>
>>
>> ---
>> Sam

I think I know the seller. I bought a used Tak 500mm f/4.5 and
like-new 77 Ltd from him. Both at very reasonable prices, might I add.


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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
2010/4/13 AlunFoto :
>
> uhu.
> Just one question left, after that
>
> Will it blend?

The author's brain? Your question comes late, I'm afraid =)
Cheers
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread AlunFoto
2010/4/13 Miserere :
> I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
> just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
> "inept".
[...]
> Catch all the action here:
>
> http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html

uhu.
Just one question left, after that

Will it blend?

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Re: Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Walker

P. J. Alling wrote:

"... who was dressed as a gorillia"  There's a story there, I tell you!


Some monkey business I'll wager.

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Re: Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling

"... who was dressed as a gorillia"  There's a story there, I tell you!

On 4/13/2010 3:28 PM, Miserere wrote:

Enjoy:

http://www.americablog.com/2010/04/best-photo-caption-ever.html


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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling

I read about 20 of the comments and then my head exploded.

On 4/13/2010 3:26 PM, Miserere wrote:

I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
"inept".

So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.

You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.

Catch all the action here:

http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html

I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.

Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
reputation.

Cheers,


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Re: Completeness

2010-04-13 Thread AlunFoto
Completeness with gaps is proof you're human. :-)

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> Sort of. Finally finished organizing my 2004 photography from Iraq. There's
> a gap from Aug 8 to Aug 18 with no images & the count jumps by 36.
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Re: The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
That hurts so bad... I'm going blind... have you no mercy?

2010/4/13 Miserere :
> I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
> just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
> "inept".
>
> So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
> had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
> it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
> can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
> because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
> than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.
>
> You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
> it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
> explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
> events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
> should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
> linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
> of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
> his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
> because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.
>
> Catch all the action here:
>
> http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html
>
> I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
> not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
> to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.
>
> Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
> them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
> really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
> reputation.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>  --M.
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Re: Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread eckinator
wowsers... go go gadget gorilla suit!
thanks =)

2010/4/13 Miserere :
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>
> http://www.americablog.com/2010/04/best-photo-caption-ever.html
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Re: PESO Not another one!

2010-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
That's a neat shot.  Lots of different brightness levels but all
pretty well expressed.

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:38 AM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
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>
> Yet another K-x pano, this time shot during a visit to the Powerhouse
> Museum with my little guy Thomas. What's particularly interesting
> about this pano from a technical perspective is that it was shot with
> the camera in Av mode, each exposure is different.
>
> It consists of 4x1 landscape shots, again hand held using my trusty
> old A24/2.8 f4 @ ISO2000, exposures from top to bottom 1/20th, 1/60th,
> 1/50th and 1/30th. The source images are all in camera jpgs, it just
> goes to show how capable the pano assembly software is and that
> there's nothing wrong with the K-x's metering.
>
> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01432sm.jpg
>
> Cheers,
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Best photo caption ever

2010-04-13 Thread Miserere
Enjoy:

http://www.americablog.com/2010/04/best-photo-caption-ever.html


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The Wacky K-x tester is at it again!

2010-04-13 Thread Miserere
I use "wacky" with no intention to insult those who truly are wacky. I
just can't use the word I'd like to use. I'll stick with "wacky" and
"inept".

So now he's got another K-x, which turns out to be the same unit he
had tested previously, but thise time they gave him a 43mm Ltd to test
it with because he'd indicated the kit lens was faulty. Aparently, he
can't take good pictures with the 43mm Ltd. He doesn't seem to like it
because 43mm on APS-C is equivalent to 64mm...which is even longer
than the kit lens's 18-55mm range, thus too long to be useful.

You read that correctly. That is what he said. And not only did he say
it, when several people commented that this assertion was wrong and
explained it to him, he stuck to his guns. In a hilarious turn of
events, he told everyone they were just not getting it, and they
should read up on equivalent FoVs and crop facotrs, at which point he
linked to a web page explaining the matter. The web page is correct,
of course, but the irony was lost on him as he continued to champion
his cause that 18-55mm DA lens is not the same as an 18-55mm FA lens
because the first is for APS-C sensors and the second for Full-Frame.

Catch all the action here:

http://briard.typepad.com/get_the_picture/2010/04/pentax-k-x-testing-round-2im-damned-if-i-do-and-im-damned-if-i-dont-you-see-the-vultures-on-the-forums-ha.html

I left him a comment explaining that focusing your lens to infinity is
not the best way to get tack-sharp shots of people at 20-40m. He seems
to think infinity starts after 8m, so maybe I'm wrong.

Can any of the Australians here get in touch with Pentax Oz and tell
them not to loan anymore gear to this guy? It's making Pentax look
really bad. And him too, of course--but I have no investment in his
reputation.

Cheers,


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Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot

2010-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Pleasing remarks, Bruce.
Thanks!

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 12:04 PM
> Beautiful, rich color.  A very
> striking image!
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Bruce
> 
> 
> Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 11:42:38 AM, you wrote:
> 
> JD> Drug this out between thunder heads in order to
> continue my
> JD> annual tradition of posting a Columbine shot.
> JD> Breeze was chilly and I got a bit impatient, so went
> with what I had.
> JD> I would liked to have positioned the front blossom
> somewhat
> JD> further to the right, but didn't want to turn the
> pot and line up
> JD> the front and back blossoms either. Also, felt I had
> to have the right blossom and bud.
> JD> Whatever!
> 
> JD> Comments?
> 
> JD> Jack
> 
> JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=485
> 
> JD> K20, da16...@34mm, 1/60, ISO 100, tripod, Cable
> switch.
> 
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Re: PESO: Annual Columbine Shot

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Beautiful, rich color.  A very striking image!

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 11:42:38 AM, you wrote:

JD> Drug this out between thunder heads in order to continue my
JD> annual tradition of posting a Columbine shot.
JD> Breeze was chilly and I got a bit impatient, so went with what I had.
JD> I would liked to have positioned the front blossom somewhat
JD> further to the right, but didn't want to turn the pot and line up
JD> the front and back blossoms either. Also, felt I had to have the right 
blossom and bud.
JD> Whatever!

JD> Comments?

JD> Jack

JD> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=485

JD> K20, da16...@34mm, 1/60, ISO 100, tripod, Cable switch.





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PESO: Annual Columbine Shot

2010-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Drug this out between thunder heads in order to continue my annual tradition of 
posting a Columbine shot.
Breeze was chilly and I got a bit impatient, so went with what I had.
I would liked to have positioned the front blossom somewhat further to the 
right, but didn't want to turn the pot and line up the front and back blossoms 
either. Also, felt I had to have the right blossom and bud.
Whatever!

Comments?

Jack

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=485

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Re: fa 100mm f2.8 macro or da 77m f1.8 ltd

2010-04-13 Thread jtainter
Tanya, are you back? We've missed you.

The DA 100 macro just got a good review in Popular Photography. And I believe 
it is an update of the older FA 100 F2.8 macro, which I have, and which is a 
very good macro lens.

Don't leave us again, please. You're so much fun.

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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread AlunFoto
I like it.
It's a rather messy background, but the lines of the trunks and twigs
do somehow come together anyway. Great sharpness and pleasant pose. I
find the beak against the darker background a more happy coincidence
than do other commenteers. :-)
But are you sure about the white balance? It brings out a lot of great
colour in the bird, but the Platismatia lichen, the grey leaf-like
one, (Papirlav) has a tint of pink on my monitor(s).


Jostein

2010/4/13 Tim Øsleby :
> I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.
>
> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.
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Re: PESO -- A lot of glass`

2010-04-13 Thread P. J. Alling

AAARRGGG.  That is the worst pun...
(on a list known for them no less).

On 4/13/2010 2:22 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

O.  A mug shot.;-)

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:07 AM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
   

I don't know if I acheaved what I was trying for but what the heck

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20alotofglass.html

Equipment: Pentax K20D/smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 Limited

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: PESO -- A lot of glass`

2010-04-13 Thread Steven Desjardins
O.  A mug shot.;-)

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:07 AM, P. J. Alling
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> I don't know if I acheaved what I was trying for but what the heck
>
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20alotofglass.html
>
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Re: Little Venice: Staraja Poljana 2010...

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


They should then go out to Tomek Machnik from Krakow. Mine do.
Ecke


There are others.

Yet another foul joke played on a country that does not deserve it.



2010/4/11 mike wilson :


Roman's from Tallin, in Estonia.  Which does not detract from your
condolences that I assume all of us feel.

Bob Sullivan wrote:



Roman,
My condolences on the loss of your President and 90+ others at the
Smolensk airport.  The city and the Katyn Forest will be remembered
forever as the resting place of many proud Poles.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Roman Melihhov  wrote:



http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20100411134736

^^^ Lotsa snow this winter is causing high water in all the places
usually dry and green by April. Here's my favorite photographic location
about 20 minutes from my home. It's all covered with the water, I call
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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very well done.  If you could have had the finch pose just a little
more to the right... - only little nits, but a great shot
nonetheless.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 9:26:34 AM, you wrote:

TØ> I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
TØ> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
TØ> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.

TØ> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
TØ> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
TØ> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.

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Re: PESO - Cherry 3

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
I would be willing to, provided you could trade me for the FA 85/2.8
Soft - pretty much a wash at that point.  Yeah, those soft lenses can
create some unique images.  I do appreciate you selling it to me in
the first place.  At least it is not being wasted.

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 7:03:17 AM, you wrote:

BL> I am wondering, Bruce, if I can convince you to re-enable me with this
BL> lens... ;-)... At least this is what your shot caused me to think...

BL> Boris

BL> On 3/24/2010 6:04 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Soft focus lenses have a feel to them that is very had to duplicate
>> in post processing, I think because the effect varies based on light
>> source and depth of field.  Anyway, a rather nifty effect on this one.
>>
>> Pentax K-x, F 85/2.8 Soft
>> ISO 400, 1/250 sec @ f/4, Handheld
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/imgp9408-1.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
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Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

Cotty wrote:


On 13/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:



getting by on only dial-up Internet.



Oh for heaven's sake. I thought you lived in a 1st world country!


Goes on holiday to Deliverance country.

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Re: PESO Ok just one more...

2010-04-13 Thread Bruce Dayton
Very nice.  I'm enjoying your panos!

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Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 6:59:39 AM, you wrote:

RS> Hi Team,

RS> The last K-x pano for a while, I promise!

RS> It consists of 2x portrait shots, again hand held using my trusty old
RS> A24/2.8 1/10th f4 @ ISO1250, I hope you enjoy the Harf.

RS> http://users.tpg.com.au/distudio/temp/Pano-IMGX01331.jpg

RS> Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

Tim Øsleby wrote:

I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.

But talk aside. This is a PESO post
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.


I would cut off the flare at the bottom, the right hand fifth and then 
enough from the top to balance it.  If I ever had the chance to get to 
this stage.


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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread P N Stenquist

Nice shot of an attractive bird. The environment is perfect for him.

I'm not wild about the negative vignetting. I think it makes the  
corners look a bit underexposed.


Paul
On Apr 13, 2010, at 12:26 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:


I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.

But talk aside. This is a PESO post
http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.

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Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread mike wilson

David J Brooks wrote:

Luck you. 


Good job your spelling is still wobbly.

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Re: I'm back!

2010-04-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/4/10, m...@robertstech.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

>getting by on only dial-up Internet.

Oh for heaven's sake. I thought you lived in a 1st world country!

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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread Jack Davis
Like it much, Tim! Very color coordinated, also. ;)

Jack

--- On Tue, 4/13/10, Tim Øsleby  wrote:

> From: Tim Øsleby 
> Subject: PESO - Chaffinch
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 9:26 AM
> I'm still struggling to keep up with
> volume of the list. But for good
> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to
> the people.
> 
> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.
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Re: PESO - Chaffinch

2010-04-13 Thread David J Brooks
Very good shot

Dave

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> I'm still struggling to keep up with volume of the list. But for good
> reasons. I'm among the employed again :-D
> I think I'm doing a good job shuffling electric gadgets to the people.
>
> But talk aside. This is a PESO post
> http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/04/chaffinch.html
> Throw it at me, bricks, yawns or roses.
>
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