Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[AlunFoto]

Been a long time since last time I voted, but I remember that
happening fairly often when the voting system was just installed. I
think it's a system glitch.
Jostein

2010/4/28 Jack Davis :
> I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting on PPG submissions. I 
> swear I'm the only one so doing, however, as I seem to get the same 5-image 
> set when I open it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been 
> in the review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments awhile back on 
> dp.
>
> Common, help me here!  ;)
>
> Jack
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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[SV Hovland]

:-) I try the best I can. 


sv




Fra: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] på vegne av Chris 
Mitchell 


>Oh, and Stig Vidar - it's time to wake up!

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Quick test of the Raynox 250

[Larry Colen]

Four flower photos, uncropped and a tight crop, taken with DA40 +  
Raynox 250 on the K-x:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623954147830/

One shows motion blur from the breeze.

Quick impressions:
I have no complaints about the sharpness, especially for the price.  I  
haven't entirely sorted out carrying it about, but the 49-43mm adapter  
works just fine, and I don't have to worry about getting dust on my  
sensor, as I would changing to a real macro lens. But, it's a lot  
smaller than my DFA50/2.8 macro, and on the DA40 a better length for a  
walkaround lens.  The DA 35 would be handier than a DA40+Raynox250,  
but is bigger than the DA40, and costs a lot more than the Raynox.


The Raynox 250 is a diopter 8 and gives a maximum focusing distance of  
109mm, I may have been better with the Raynox 150, that has a diopter  
of 4.8 and gives a maximum focusing distance of 210mm.



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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Brewer" 
Subject: Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago




What's the wing velocity of a swallow?



Laden or unladen?

William Robb

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ralf R. Radermacher"

Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?


William Robb  wrote:


Hoya seems to have knocked some sense into them
over the past few years.


Like improving the finger painting filters in the K-7's firmware instead
of ironing out the most blatant bugs?

I'm afraid the opposite is true.

I guess we'll have to wait for the first products to be completely
developed under Hoya's control to see where Pentax is heading. Mind you,
everything "new" we've seen since the take-over has still been developed
in the olden days of Pentax.

The only signs of Hoya's handwriting I can see so far are digital
kindergarden filters in the K-7, the various hello kitty colour schemes
the K-x is sold in, a medium-format camera made especially for landscape
photographers without a single wide-angle lense in sight, and the
destruction of their exemplary service organisation in most parts of
Europe. Not much to be proud of, in my book.


All granted, though I recall the bugs you are talking about relate mostly to 
DFS, which might well be a necessity with the sensor in the K7.

I can't speak to the digital filters, I don't use them anyway.
We might need to wait for the 645D to start being delivered before we know 
exactly what lenses they have planned for it. I suspect that they got rather 
burned when they put the 60-250 on the roadmap and then taking a couple of 
years longer to deliver it than they said they would.
I presume that the European service got centralized into a single centre, 
much like what happened with the USA?

Some things are just to expensive to keep.

Thise Hello Kitty K-xs are flying off the shelf. Whether or not you like the 
concept yourself, it seems to be successful.
Anyway, if Pentax had been doing everything right, they would still be an 
independant camera maker.
The fact is, the camera division was losing money before Hoya, enough that 
the takeover was necessary for the survival of the company, and last I 
heard, it actually made some money for Hoya.



From a business pespective, this is not a bad thing.


William Robb 



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Re: 3rd Party 45° split screens

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On 23/04/2010, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> I'll tell you next week, I have one of the cheap dual split screens on
> route from China now. Pentax AF might be reliable as you say (not my
> experience) but I can assure you that trying to manually focus any
> fast glass (50/1.2, 85/1.4, 31/1.8, 77/1.8 etc) is a complete hit and
> miss affair using any Pentax DSLR fitted with a standard screen even
> with focus assist.

Well I got it (Travor dual diag screen for my K-x), it would certainly
do the job (albeit with a bit of nasty flare) if only the thing was
close to the size of the original screen. Basically it's useless
without a set of shims, manual focus though near impossible with the
original screen is far more accurate.

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RE: GESO - Egypt day 1

[John Coyle]

Some nice shots there Dave.  My wife and I did 21 days in Egypt in 2007,
starting and finishing in Cairo, and covering all the usual places: Memphis,
Karnak, Luxor, Abu Simbel, etc. And had a wonderful time - helped by the
fact it was a private tour organised by an Egyptian friend who lives here in
Brisbane.
Did you get to camp overnight in the White Desert? For me that was one of
the highlights.


John in Brisbane



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Subject: GESO - Egypt day 1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/alohadave/sets/72157623937952158/

We had a great time in Egypt with several of my wife's coworkers.  The
first day was in Luxor with a dawn balloon ride, followed by the Vally
of the Kings, then Karnak and Lusor temples.

More to come each day.

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PESO: Millburn Diner

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The latest in my series of diner images:

http://dinerdan.posterous.com/

Comments. criticisms, and suggestions are encourage and appreciated.

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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Doug Brewer]

What's the wing velocity of a swallow?

On Apr 28, 2010, at 5:53 PM, "Bob W"  wrote:


Here's the link:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening

We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)


PDMLers like me who won't be there can email questions /
requests via the List, and I will text a willing recipient to
answer accordingly :)



At last - I have a whole load of questions on a great many subjects.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Why do you want this job?
If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the distribution but  
rise most

rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?
What is the ideal relation between the individual and the state?
Do you know the way to San Jose?
...

There are just so many - I can hardly wait until next week!

Bob


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Re: PESO Putting a cap on it

[Doug Brewer]

That's amazing; you know where your lens caps are.

On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:08 PM, eckinator  wrote:


Just a random fun shot - you simply must not leave a lens cap in sight
with Mattis around or he'll try to put it back on. I was only just
getting the camera ready so I kept shooting while I tried to keep his
arm away with my other hand; unsuccessfully so. Nonetheless I like the
result very much. Uncropped version online as well. Not sure which one
I like better - cropped is cleaner as both pro and con.

Link as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4

Comments & honest brutalities appreciated
Cheers
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Jack Davis]

That's right. Just don't show anyone those "others." ;)

Jack

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> Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery
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> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:48 PM
> 2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> > The good ones..of course.
> > As the riddle goes; "In order to be known as a great
> photographer, you must throw away all those that are only
> good."
> 
> You mean I can become known as a great photographer by
> simply erasing
> my hard disk? Oh artsy world, I love thou...
> 
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

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2010/4/29 P. J. Alling :
> You forgot;
>
> How much wood, could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck, could chuck wood?

Not to mention "Au pays des Papous"
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/28/2010 5:44 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 28/4/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

We'll get Norm to give Cotty a ring.
 

Can I opt for the cat's butt instead?
   


I think a ring would be easier to hock than a cat's butt.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[P. J. Alling]

You forgot;

How much wood, could a woodchuck chuck, if a woodchuck, could chuck wood?

On 4/28/2010 6:01 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 28/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

   

At last - I have a whole load of questions on a great many subjects.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Why do you want this job?
If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the distribution but rise most
rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?
What is the ideal relation between the individual and the state?
Do you know the way to San Jose?
 

Chicago Team please do some firming up on questions like these - no
Googling!!!

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Re: OT -- Skunk

[eckinator]

Totally... =)
Thanks for sharing Peter
Ecke

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> Not mine I don't know what it was taken with, but hell it's furry cute.
>
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OT -- Skunk

[P. J. Alling]

Not mine I don't know what it was taken with, but hell it's furry cute.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_j24uCNMZoG8/S9hq_wawF3I/K74/c81doXnTXVA/s1600/kyootskunk.jpg

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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

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2010/4/29 Bob W :
> You're not the only one who's a little hoarse:
> 

Will they call me Einstein though? I bet that horse doesn't even have
a degree in Rocket Surgery or Neuro Science
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RE: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Bob W]

You're not the only one who's a little hoarse:


> 
> Interesting - the longer I vote, the more I nay...
> 
> 2010/4/29 eckinator :
> > 2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> >> The good ones..of course.
> >> As the riddle goes; "In order to be known as a great 
> photographer, you must throw away all those that are only good."
> >
> > You mean I can become known as a great photographer by 
> simply erasing 
> > my hard disk? Oh artsy world, I love thou...
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ecke
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Re: PESO Putting a cap on it

[eckinator]

2010/4/29 Bob Sullivan :
>
> Made me laugh!  Regards,  Bob S.

All I was hoping for =)
Thanks Bob
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

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Interesting - the longer I vote, the more I nay...

2010/4/29 eckinator :
> 2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
>> The good ones..of course.
>> As the riddle goes; "In order to be known as a great photographer, you must 
>> throw away all those that are only good."
>
> You mean I can become known as a great photographer by simply erasing
> my hard disk? Oh artsy world, I love thou...
>
> Cheers
> Ecke
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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[P. J. Alling]

At least I misspelled it consistently.

On 4/28/2010 3:24 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

Veblen Good. But we know what you meant.
At least I did after Googling it.
: \
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

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Re: PESO Putting a cap on it

[Bob Sullivan]

Made me laugh!  Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:08 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> Just a random fun shot - you simply must not leave a lens cap in sight
> with Mattis around or he'll try to put it back on. I was only just
> getting the camera ready so I kept shooting while I tried to keep his
> arm away with my other hand; unsuccessfully so. Nonetheless I like the
> result very much. Uncropped version online as well. Not sure which one
> I like better - cropped is cleaner as both pro and con.
>
> Link as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
>
> Comments & honest brutalities appreciated
> Cheers
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

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2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> The good ones..of course.
> As the riddle goes; "In order to be known as a great photographer, you must 
> throw away all those that are only good."

You mean I can become known as a great photographer by simply erasing
my hard disk? Oh artsy world, I love thou...

Cheers
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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

[Bob W]

> >
> > I recommend Ne Le Dis A Personne (Don't Tell Anyone):
> > 
> >
> > And Moliere:
> > 
> 
> A'ight, I'll get a hold of them and watch them with an open mind.
> You'll find out...
> Thanks Bob
> Ecke
> 

I hope you enjoy them. Fanny Ardant is in neither of them, but Laura
Morante, who is Italian, is rather magnificent in Moliere, and Ne Le Dis A
Personne features one of my other top 5 most beautiful women ever. Here she
is being very bilingual. I love a woman with 2 tongues:







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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Jack Davis]

The good ones..of course.
As the riddle goes; "In order to be known as a great photographer, you must 
throw away all those that are only good."

Jack

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> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:38 PM
> 2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> > Thanks! You may reward me by voting "yes" on mine. :)
> > That's OK, I realize that's way too much to ask.
> 
> I have no idea which ones they are but if I did you could
> count on my
> benevolence =)
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

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2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> Thanks! You may reward me by voting "yes" on mine. :)
> That's OK, I realize that's way too much to ask.

I have no idea which ones they are but if I did you could count on my
benevolence =)

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Re: PESO Putting a cap on it

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2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
>
> I think the closer view.

Thanks for commenting Jack =)
I think it was actually me who got him started. I used to put on the
cap all the time to keep him from making finger and/or banana prints.
So obviously he's concluded it is a good thing to do so he's just
trying to be helpful...
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Jack Davis]

Thanks! You may reward me by voting "yes" on mine. :)
That's OK, I realize that's way too much to ask. 

Jack

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> Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery
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> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:16 PM
> OK voting happily away - lemme know
> if owt changes.
> Cheers
> Ecke
> 
> 2010/4/28 Jack Davis :
> > I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting
> on PPG submissions. I swear I'm the only one so doing,
> however, as I seem to get the same 5-image set when I open
> it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been
> in the review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments
> awhile back on dp.
> >
> > Common, help me here!  ;)
> >
> > Jack
> >
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Bruce Walker]

Mark Roberts wrote:

I just tested the video link for streaming and it seems to be working.
Cotty just got to see our cat via Internet video linkup. Ain't
technology wonderful?
Here's the link:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening

We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)


Shouldn't you at least be streaming a cormorant's butt in the meantime, 
as a test pattern?


-bmw

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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[mike wilson]

Miserere wrote:


On 28 April 2010 01:46, AlunFoto  wrote:


That was odd.
I've tried to reset the access rights now. Please try again. :-)

Jostein



I never knew Norwegians were so easy to hate...and it's all your fault.

Loved Aurora and the Gulls, but you can buy your own damn beer when we
meet in Chicago  :-p


My wife correctly guessed that my first quote in the list referred to 
Jostein


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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

[eckinator]

2010/4/29 Bob W :
>
> I recommend Ne Le Dis A Personne (Don't Tell Anyone):
> 
>
> And Moliere:
> 

A'ight, I'll get a hold of them and watch them with an open mind.
You'll find out...
Thanks Bob
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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

[Bob W]

> > Very interesting - I did not know that about Germans. What 
> is it about 
> > French films that you cannot appreciate?
> 
> To be blunt they bore the living daylights out of me (and all the
> others) - it is some emotional je-ne-sais-quoi that is just 
> totally lost on us... personnages, storylines, their 
> particular well uh poeticness, you name it... and this is moi 
> who even watched Le dernier Metro 3 times because of its 
> purported greatness. There are of course some rare jewels. 
> But tell you what I'll watch another one to see if I've 
> matured and let you know =) Ecke

I recommend Ne Le Dis A Personne (Don't Tell Anyone):


And Moliere:




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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[eckinator]

OK voting happily away - lemme know if owt changes.
Cheers
Ecke

2010/4/28 Jack Davis :
> I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting on PPG submissions. I 
> swear I'm the only one so doing, however, as I seem to get the same 5-image 
> set when I open it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been 
> in the review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments awhile back on 
> dp.
>
> Common, help me here!  ;)
>
> Jack
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Re: PESO Putting a cap on it

[Jack Davis]

I think the closer view.

Jack

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, eckinator  wrote:

> From: eckinator 
> Subject: PESO Putting a cap on it
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:08 PM
> Just a random fun shot - you simply
> must not leave a lens cap in sight
> with Mattis around or he'll try to put it back on. I was
> only just
> getting the camera ready so I kept shooting while I tried
> to keep his
> arm away with my other hand; unsuccessfully so. Nonetheless
> I like the
> result very much. Uncropped version online as well. Not
> sure which one
> I like better - cropped is cleaner as both pro and con.
> 
> Link as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4
> 
> Comments & honest brutalities appreciated
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Jack Davis]

I'd sell the directions for a song.

J

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> From: Mark Roberts 
> Subject: Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 3:06 PM
> Bob W wrote:
> 
> >Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
> 
> The egg, definitely. Not a chicken's egg, mind you...
> 
> >Why do you want this job?
> 
> I heard chicks dig guys in a McDonald's uniform.
> 
> >If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the
> distribution but rise most
> >rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?
> 
> Good for people, but possibly painful for the quintile.
> 
> >What is the ideal relation between the individual and
> the state?
> 
> A long-distance one.
> 
> >Do you know the way to San Jose?
> 
> Yes, but I'm not telling.
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[eckinator]

2010/4/29 Jack Davis :
> Did you ever acquire an "Artist Code?"
>
> If not:
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artist

That was the link I needed. Yes I do have an. Thanks a bunch, Jack!
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PESO Putting a cap on it

[eckinator]

Just a random fun shot - you simply must not leave a lens cap in sight
with Mattis around or he'll try to put it back on. I was only just
getting the camera ready so I kept shooting while I tried to keep his
arm away with my other hand; unsuccessfully so. Nonetheless I like the
result very much. Uncropped version online as well. Not sure which one
I like better - cropped is cleaner as both pro and con.

Link as always: http://tinyurl.com/yeedjp4

Comments & honest brutalities appreciated
Cheers
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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[Jack Davis]

Did you ever acquire an "Artist Code?"

If not: 
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artist

Jack



--- On Wed, 4/28/10, eckinator  wrote:

> From: eckinator 
> Subject: Re: Pentax Photo Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 2:54 PM
> I just tried and still have a login
> but can't seem to find the door...
> Ecke
> 
> 2010/4/28 Jack Davis :
> > I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting
> on PPG submissions. I swear I'm the only one so doing,
> however, as I seem to get the same 5-image set when I open
> it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been
> in the review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments
> awhile back on dp.
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> > Common, help me here!  ;)
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

The egg, definitely. Not a chicken's egg, mind you...

>Why do you want this job?

I heard chicks dig guys in a McDonald's uniform.

>If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the distribution but rise most
>rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?

Good for people, but possibly painful for the quintile.

>What is the ideal relation between the individual and the state?

A long-distance one.

>Do you know the way to San Jose?

Yes, but I'm not telling.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[mike wilson]

Cotty wrote:


On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:



Should I trust a text message from a man who can't tell one end of a
cat from the other?



I thought Mike wasn't going!


Funny you should mention that.  I've just been told that I _should_ be 
going.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>At last - I have a whole load of questions on a great many subjects.
>
>Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
>Why do you want this job?
>If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the distribution but rise most
>rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?
>What is the ideal relation between the individual and the state?
>Do you know the way to San Jose?

Chicago Team please do some firming up on questions like these - no
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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:

Who is she? You don't know who our Fanny is? I'm amazed - she's a 
French actress, married at one time to Truffaut.


Mea culpa... much like most Germans I've ever met in person I 
suffer from a congenital inability to appreciate most French 
cinema very much including Truffaut... sorry but this one 
went right over my head =( Ecke



Very interesting - I did not know that about Germans. What is it about
French films that you cannot appreciate? 


Il ne sait pas.

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RE: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Bob W]

> >Here's the link:
> >http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
> >
> >We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be 
> >midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)
> 
> PDMLers like me who won't be there can email questions / 
> requests via the List, and I will text a willing recipient to 
> answer accordingly :)
> 

At last - I have a whole load of questions on a great many subjects.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Why do you want this job?
If income and wealth rise in all quintiles of the distribution but rise most
rapidly in the top quintile, is this good or bad?
What is the ideal relation between the individual and the state?
Do you know the way to San Jose?
...

There are just so many - I can hardly wait until next week!

Bob


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Re: Pentax Photo Gallery

[eckinator]

I just tried and still have a login but can't seem to find the door...
Ecke

2010/4/28 Jack Davis :
> I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting on PPG submissions. I 
> swear I'm the only one so doing, however, as I seem to get the same 5-image 
> set when I open it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been 
> in the review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments awhile back on 
> dp.
>
> Common, help me here!  ;)
>
> Jack
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Re: Maybe my favorite image in the book

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


[...]

OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal 
titles.  Who can create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if 
he manages to find a suitable Pentax to shoot with.)





I don't do titles, I do captions. The captions do not provide information
that is in the pictures. 


Otherwise you'd get titles such as 'A (cropped)picture of a man jumping from a
ladder-like object, almost landing in a puddle, near some railings close to
the Gare St-Lazare and on the railings is a poster which shows some figures
also jumping in a strange echo of the man jumping the puddle as well as the
name Railowski which has a strange verbal echo with the background railings
and the railway station and the ladder-like piece of wood in the puddle,
which is itself a source of further echo in that it reflects the scene back
and contains some hoops which echo the ripples from the ladder'.



;-)

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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

[mike wilson]

Mark Roberts wrote:


Cotty wrote:



On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:



just signed up on ustream.tv and got it working. Bookmark this URL:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
(Requires Flash, I'm afraid)

If we can get an Internet connection at the gallery we should be good
to go.


Way to go Mark. That's excellent!!



It will be if we can get an Internet connection at the gallery (I
emailed Sue Barton but haven't received a reply yet). Even better if
it's hard-wired rather than wireless, because it's faster and we'll be
able to go for a better quality feed.

Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos
in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display!


If anyone has one of those firewire video cameras you could do it in 
(for the internet) HD.


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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Matthew Hunt]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> much the way that the K-x is virtually universally praised in pint and by 
> users for
> its high ISO performance?

I'll raise a glass to it.

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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[David J Brooks]

Dam, we are back to entry level. Will this madness never end.

Dave

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek  wrote:
> Best DSLR: Entry Level
> http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php
>
> That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says.
>
> Darren Addy
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Re: K-7 replacement?

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On 29/04/2010, P N Stenquist  wrote:

> But the Samsung sensor in your K20 doesn't produce the same results as the
> sensor in the K7. Far from it.
> Paul

As I mentioned before (acknowledged improved K7 exposure accuracy
aside) given the vast majority of technical and anecdotal user reports
I'm loath to pay good money to test it for myself. If the K7 sensor
were that much better than the K20D then surely there would be a
general consensus as such, much the way that the K-x is virtually
universally praised in pint and by users for its high ISO performance?

So will you not be "upgrading" to the K7's replacement (assuming that
it has at the very least improved high ISO performance)? I might
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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[David J Brooks]

1,2 and 4 are just beautiful.

Dave

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> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20
>
> Specials for me:
> The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
> The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
> DA 10-17 fisheye.
> In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
> thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
> satisfaction.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

[eckinator]

2010/4/28 Bob W :
>
> Very interesting - I did not know that about Germans. What is it about
> French films that you cannot appreciate?

To be blunt they bore the living daylights out of me (and all the
others) - it is some emotional je-ne-sais-quoi that is just totally
lost on us... personnages, storylines, their particular well uh
poeticness, you name it... and this is moi who even watched Le dernier
Metro 3 times because of its purported greatness. There are of course
some rare jewels. But tell you what I'll watch another one to see if
I've matured and let you know =)
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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>We'll get Norm to give Cotty a ring.

Can I opt for the cat's butt instead?

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Larry Colen]

On 4/28/2010 10:10 AM, William Robb wrote:


- Original Message - From: "Tom C" Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?



As in predictive AF?



That was predictable.. :-)


I knew you were going to say that.



William Robb




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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> I just tested the video link for streaming and it seems to be working.
> Cotty just got to see our cat via Internet video linkup. Ain't
> technology wonderful?
> Here's the link:
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
>
> We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
> midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)

We'll get Norm to give Cotty a ring.

Dave
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Miserere]

On 28 April 2010 15:37, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Miserere
>>
>> On 28 April 2010 13:03, Tom C  wrote:
>>>
>>> > FF would be nice...  :-)
>>
>> Why do you want full-frame, Tom?
>
> Why not?

Camera size, weight, cost, cost of new hard-drive/SD memory, cost of more RAM...

On a more personal note, if I went full-frame, Pentax (or
Sigma/Tamron) would have to release a 40-105mm f/2.8 lens that I could
use as my walk-around zoom, and I'm almost certain none of them would.

Not that our opinions matter much; Pentax will do whatever they damn
well please.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[John Francis]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:23:44PM +0100, Cotty wrote:
> 
> >I just tested the video link for streaming and it seems to be working.
> >Cotty just got to see our cat via Internet video linkup. Ain't
> >technology wonderful?
> >Here's the link:
> >http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
> >
> >We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
> >midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)
> 
> Hopefully the exhibition will be mildly more interesting than a cat's butt.

My alpha cat considers that unlikely.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Should I trust a text message from a man who can't tell one end of a
>cat from the other?

I thought Mike wasn't going!

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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

[Miserere]

On 28 April 2010 16:46, Bob W  wrote:
>
> Very interesting - I did not know that about Germans. What is it about
> French films that you cannot appreciate?

It's probably that je nes sais quoi they've usually got going for them.


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Here's the link:
>>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
>>
>>We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
>>midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)
>
>PDMLers like me who won't be there can email questions / requests via
>the List, and I will text a willing recipient to answer accordingly :)

Should I trust a text message from a man who can't tell one end of a
cat from the other?


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Miserere]

On 28 April 2010 17:23, Cotty  wrote:
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> Hopefully the exhibition will be mildly more interesting than a cat's butt.

Depends on what the cat is doing with that butt.

I take it it wasn't LOLing it...?


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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Here's the link:
>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
>
>We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
>midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)

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Re: We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Cotty]

>I just tested the video link for streaming and it seems to be working.
>Cotty just got to see our cat via Internet video linkup. Ain't
>technology wonderful?
>Here's the link:
>http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening
>
>We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
>midnight in the UK, but it'll be worth staying up late for ;-)

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We'll be streaming the opening live from Chicago

[Mark Roberts]

I just tested the video link for streaming and it seems to be working.
Cotty just got to see our cat via Internet video linkup. Ain't
technology wonderful?
Here's the link:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pdml-photo-annual-gallery-opening

We'll turn it on at 6:00 p.m. CDT on May 7th. That's going to be
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Re: 645DII

[eckinator]

2010/4/28 P. J. Alling :
>>>
>>> Based on his taste in colors he's from Southern California, they don't
>>> play
>>> banjos there.
>>
>> I'm at a bit of a loss for an answer. Would a Dueling Tofu Banjos iPad
>> App do the trick?
>
> I'd almost like to see that, almost.

Real recognize real? C'mon, keep this going now! Steven's waiting to
be entertained...

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Pentax Photo Gallery

[Jack Davis]

I still idol away some otherwise unusable time voting on PPG submissions. I 
swear I'm the only one so doing, however, as I seem to get the same 5-image set 
when I open it again hours later. I've a few submissions that have been in the 
review queue for several weeks. Noticed like comments awhile back on dp.

Common, help me here!  ;)

Jack


  

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RE: Woot

[Bob W]

> >If Pentax want my pictures in this book next year they'd better get 
> >their fanny in gear and put a good little camera on the 
> market for me, 
> >otherwise I'll go Lumix.
> 
> With a Pentax lens? I think that will qualify you ;)

Good thinking!





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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

[Bob W]

> > Who is she? You don't know who our Fanny is? I'm amazed - she's a 
> > French actress, married at one time to Truffaut.
> 
> Mea culpa... much like most Germans I've ever met in person I 
> suffer from a congenital inability to appreciate most French 
> cinema very much including Truffaut... sorry but this one 
> went right over my head =( Ecke

Very interesting - I did not know that about Germans. What is it about
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Re: Woot

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If Pentax want my pictures in this book next year they'd better get their
>fanny in gear and put a good little camera on the market for me, otherwise
>I'll go Lumix.

With a Pentax lens? I think that will qualify you ;)

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RE: Woot

[Bob W]

> > > > I would also like a tough little
> > > >carry-everywhere p&s-type camera
> > >
> > > Sure. MX, 35mm lens, film. Job done :-)
> > >
> > 
> > I've got one of those. Not shirt-pocketable, and job not 
> done because 
> > of all the faffing about with scanning.
> > 
> Maybe with a pancake lens and one of these 
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/pma2001/SiliconFilm/010212-1
> 302-49.jpg
> 
> (if only they'd taken off)
> 

Great idea for us, lousy idea for the industry.

Bob


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Re: Anyone looking into doing the webcam video from Chicago?

[Cotty]

On 28/4/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Then again, if it's wireless I could walk the laptop by all the photos
>in the exhibit to let viewers around the world seem them on display!

A personal tour - love it :)



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Re: an AP story on our exhibit

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2010/4/28 Bob W :
>
> Who is she? You don't know who our Fanny is? I'm amazed - she's a French
> actress, married at one time to Truffaut.

Mea culpa... much like most Germans I've ever met in person I suffer
from a congenital inability to appreciate most French cinema very much
including Truffaut... sorry but this one went right over my head =(
Ecke

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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Stunning images!

Dan

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Chris Mitchell
 wrote:
> AlunFoto wrote:
>> Sent: 27 April 2010 20:19
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering
>>
>> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20
>>
>> Specials for me:
>> The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
>> The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
>> DA 10-17 fisheye.
>> In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
>> thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
>> satisfaction.
>>
> So you get to see the aurora AND you get a stunning shot of it! Love it. The
> other stuff's not bad either.
>
> Oh, and Stig Vidar - it's time to wake up!
>
> Chris
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RE: Woot

[Chris Mitchell]

Bob W
> Sent: 27 April 2010 23:43
> To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
> Subject: RE: Woot
> 
> >
> > > I would also like a tough little
> > >carry-everywhere p&s-type camera
> >
> > Sure. MX, 35mm lens, film. Job done :-)
> >
> 
> I've got one of those. Not shirt-pocketable, and job not done because
> of all
> the faffing about with scanning.
> 
Maybe with a pancake lens and one of these
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0102/pma2001/SiliconFilm/010212-1302-49.jpg

(if only they'd taken off)

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[eckinator]

2010/4/28 Theodore Beilby :
>
> I am sure there will soon be a K-7 replacement because I just got mine.

You aren't going all viral on us, are you now?
Ecke

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RE: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[Chris Mitchell]

AlunFoto wrote:
> Sent: 27 April 2010 20:19
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering
> 
> http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/thumbnails.php?album=20
> 
> Specials for me:
> The aurora pic was taken with a borrowed K-x at ISO 6400.
> The Rock-and-puddle landscapes were results of playing around with the
> DA 10-17 fisheye.
> In the people shot, the guy on the left is Amund, who hosted the whole
> thing and made all the practical arrangements to everyone's
> satisfaction.
> 
So you get to see the aurora AND you get a stunning shot of it! Love it. The
other stuff's not bad either.

Oh, and Stig Vidar - it's time to wake up!

Chris



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Re: K-7 replacement?

[John Sessoms]

From: Miserere

On 28 April 2010 13:03, Tom C  wrote:
> FF would be nice...  :-) 


Why do you want full-frame, Tom?


Why not?

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Theodore Beilby]

I am sure there will soon be a K-7 replacement because I just got mine.  It 
always seems to work that way with Pentax, just like Adobe does with their 
software.  

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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[CheekyGeek]

Veblen Good. But we know what you meant.
At least I did after Googling it.
: \
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veblen_good

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Ralf R. Radermacher]

William Robb  wrote:

> Hoya seems to have knocked some sense into them 
> over the past few years.

Like improving the finger painting filters in the K-7's firmware instead
of ironing out the most blatant bugs?

I'm afraid the opposite is true. 

I guess we'll have to wait for the first products to be completely
developed under Hoya's control to see where Pentax is heading. Mind you,
everything "new" we've seen since the take-over has still been developed
in the olden days of Pentax.

The only signs of Hoya's handwriting I can see so far are digital
kindergarden filters in the K-7, the various hello kitty colour schemes
the K-x is sold in, a medium-format camera made especially for landscape
photographers without a single wide-angle lense in sight, and the
destruction of their exemplary service organisation in most parts of
Europe. Not much to be proud of, in my book.

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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/28/2010 3:10 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:

   

Maybe, but when you have categories, like "Best Prestige Camera"  with the
Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category?
 


Yes, the name is important.  It helps it's status as a Velben Good.  I 
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jack Davis]

Yeah, but you're a part of that insignificant niche MF mini assemblage I was 
talking about. :=))

Jack

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Tom C  wrote:

> From: Tom C 
> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 12:02 PM
> Not for the majority of current APS-C
> sensor users who have no
> intention of going with the 645D form factor or or lens
> investment.
> (like me).
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > The 645 dependency, being unique in the DSLR group,
> would to a great extent satisfy, or would at least take off
> the edge, of the limited FF craving.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Tom C 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Tom C 
> >> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:22 AM
> >> Largely because it *should* lead to
> >> lower overall noise levels and I
> >> can then use all my legacy lenses at the focal
> lengths for
> >> which I
> >> purchased them.
> >>
> >> Aside from that, I believe Pentax should be
> competing in
> >> the 36x24 mm
> >> format market, as Nikon, Canon, and Sony all do.
> Their
> >> flagship DSLR's
> >> are all in that format. So Pentax *may*, *might*,
> *probably
> >> does*
> >> appear to be the slouch of the 4 mfrs. (which of
> course we
> >> know is
> >> true in numerous ways). Plus it would provide an
> upgrade
> >> path that was
> >> not 645 dependent.
> >>
> >> Tom C.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Miserere 
> >> wrote:
> >> > On 28 April 2010 13:03, Tom C 
> >> wrote:
> >> >> FF would be nice... :-)
> >> >
> >> > Why do you want full-frame, Tom?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  --M.
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[DagT]

Den 28. apr. 2010 kl. 19.26 skrev Mark Roberts:

> Miserere wrote:
> 
>> if anyone sees a suspicious looking Pentax camera, take a picture!
> 
> All Pentax cameras are suspicious-looking!

I know. I passed through the security control in Munich airport yesterday and 
not only did he try if the camera worked, he also had to look through all four 
DA limited lenses in the bag. I think they looked unfamiliar in the X-ray 
images :-)

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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[CheekyGeek]

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

> Maybe, but when you have categories, like "Best Prestige Camera"  with the
> Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category?

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RE: Woot

[Bob W]

 
> >I've got one of those. Not shirt-pocketable, and job not 
> done because 
> >of all the faffing about with scanning.
> 
> Bob some people are born lazy but you make a career out of it!!
> 

Life's too short for scanning negatives.

If Pentax want my pictures in this book next year they'd better get their
fanny in gear and put a good little camera on the market for me, otherwise
I'll go Lumix.

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RE: an AP story on our exhibit

[Bob W]

> > I keep trying to come up with a good Fanny Ardant joke to suit this 
> > thread, but I can't so here's a picture of one of the top 5 most 
> > beautiful women ever to grace this planet:
> > 
>  > 437-17
> > 32720994.jpg>
> 
> Who is she then? BTW that's a rather odd way to hold a cigar. 
> Plus you can tell she is far too heavily lipstuck, uhm lipsticked ]=P
> 

Who is she? You don't know who our Fanny is? I'm amazed - she's a French
actress, married at one time to Truffaut.

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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[CheekyGeek]

These for starters: http://entry-level-dslr-camera-review.toptenreviews.com/

I'd add the Canon XSi in there, as well.

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RE: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[Bob W]

> On 4/28/2010 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:
> > Best DSLR: Entry Level
> > http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php
> >
> > That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what 
> anybody else says.
> >
> > Darren Addy
> > Kearney, NE
> >
> >
> Maybe, but when you have categories, like "Best Prestige 
> Camera"  with the Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point 
> of the category? What else is there in it's class?

I used to have a Prestige pressure cooker. It made very nice Hungarian
goulash.

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Re: OK, which one of you sots was it?

[P. J. Alling]

Well at least they took the liquor, maybe in their stomach based on what 
was stolen.


On 4/28/2010 2:53 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

Have we any PDML members that were in the Alnwick-Haldimand Township,
ONTARIO late on April 26th?
If so, I hope you have a good alibi:

"On the 26th April 2010 at approximately 11:02pm, the Northumberland
OPP was dispatched to a break and enter to a trailer located on
Shelter Valley Road in Alnwick-Haldimand Township.  The culprits
gained entry to the trailer and once inside made off with a Pentax
camera, an unknown quantity of liquor a wrist watch and an Ipod.

The OPP is asking for the public’s assistance in this investigation.
Anyone with information into this crime is asked to call the
Northumberland OPP at 613-475-1313 or call CRIMESTOPPERS at
1-800-222-TIPS.  CRIMESTOPPERS does not subscribe to call display and
callers could be eligible for a cash reward."

Mark is off the hook, unless they also find any Sony equipment missing.

Darren Addy
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Tom C]

Not for the majority of current APS-C sensor users who have no
intention of going with the 645D form factor or or lens investment.
(like me).

Tom C.

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> The 645 dependency, being unique in the DSLR group, would to a great extent 
> satisfy, or would at least take off the edge, of the limited FF craving.
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, Tom C  wrote:
>
>> From: Tom C 
>> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:22 AM
>> Largely because it *should* lead to
>> lower overall noise levels and I
>> can then use all my legacy lenses at the focal lengths for
>> which I
>> purchased them.
>>
>> Aside from that, I believe Pentax should be competing in
>> the 36x24 mm
>> format market, as Nikon, Canon, and Sony all do. Their
>> flagship DSLR's
>> are all in that format. So Pentax *may*, *might*, *probably
>> does*
>> appear to be the slouch of the 4 mfrs. (which of course we
>> know is
>> true in numerous ways). Plus it would provide an upgrade
>> path that was
>> not 645 dependent.
>>
>> Tom C.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Miserere 
>> wrote:
>> > On 28 April 2010 13:03, Tom C 
>> wrote:
>> >> FF would be nice... :-)
>> >
>> > Why do you want full-frame, Tom?
>> >
>> >
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RE: any PDML members in the South of France?

[Bob W]

> 
> My wife and I and baby daughter will be traveling in Provence 
> and Languedoc-Roussillon in June and would be interested in 
> meeting up with PDML members if there are any there?
> 
> Alastair

I will be based in the town of Florac, Lozere - a departement in the
Languedoc-Rousillon region - between 19th June and 1st July. I will be
without motorised transport. Florac is smack in the middle of the Cevennes
national park, not far from the Gorge du Tarn, which is among the
incontournables of the region.

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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jack Davis]

MARK!(?)

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Mark Roberts  wrote:

> From: Mark Roberts 
> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:26 AM
> Miserere wrote:
> 
> > if anyone sees a suspicious looking Pentax camera,
> take a picture!
> 
> All Pentax cameras are suspicious-looking!
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jack Davis]

The 645 dependency, being unique in the DSLR group, would to a great extent 
satisfy, or would at least take off the edge, of the limited FF craving.

Jack

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, Tom C  wrote:

> From: Tom C 
> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:22 AM
> Largely because it *should* lead to
> lower overall noise levels and I
> can then use all my legacy lenses at the focal lengths for
> which I
> purchased them.
> 
> Aside from that, I believe Pentax should be competing in
> the 36x24 mm
> format market, as Nikon, Canon, and Sony all do. Their
> flagship DSLR's
> are all in that format. So Pentax *may*, *might*, *probably
> does*
> appear to be the slouch of the 4 mfrs. (which of course we
> know is
> true in numerous ways). Plus it would provide an upgrade
> path that was
> not 645 dependent.
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Miserere 
> wrote:
> > On 28 April 2010 13:03, Tom C 
> wrote:
> >> FF would be nice... :-)
> >
> > Why do you want full-frame, Tom?
> >
> >
> >  --M.
> >
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Re: Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[P. J. Alling]

On 4/28/2010 2:40 PM, CheekyGeek wrote:

Best DSLR: Entry Level
http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php

That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says.

Darren Addy
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Maybe, but when you have categories, like "Best Prestige Camera"  with 
the Leica M9 as winner, well what's the point of the category? What else 
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OK, which one of you sots was it?

[CheekyGeek]

Have we any PDML members that were in the Alnwick-Haldimand Township,
ONTARIO late on April 26th?
If so, I hope you have a good alibi:

"On the 26th April 2010 at approximately 11:02pm, the Northumberland
OPP was dispatched to a break and enter to a trailer located on
Shelter Valley Road in Alnwick-Haldimand Township.  The culprits
gained entry to the trailer and once inside made off with a Pentax
camera, an unknown quantity of liquor a wrist watch and an Ipod.

The OPP is asking for the public’s assistance in this investigation.
Anyone with information into this crime is asked to call the
Northumberland OPP at 613-475-1313 or call CRIMESTOPPERS at
1-800-222-TIPS.  CRIMESTOPPERS does not subscribe to call display and
callers could be eligible for a cash reward."

Mark is off the hook, unless they also find any Sony equipment missing.

Darren Addy
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Re: K-7 replacement?

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling"

Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?

Hoya seems to have knocked some sense into them over the past few years.
There is hope..
If the current DA lenses would cover a 1.3 crop sensor and a 21mp sensor of 
that size was available, that might make a nice little package.





We're talking Pentax here remember.



Twould only make sense to.



If they're going to 21mp I'd hope they'd go for a larger sensor.





I'd hope for 21MP, but certainly they could not/would not go backwards
in raw sensor resolution.



To be fair, the K-x outperforms the K7 in only one parameter.
Dropping the K-x sensor into a K7 body and calling it a new camera 
isn't

viable since it would be going backwards in megapixels.
I like Adam's idea of a 14mp Sony sensor, but I'd really like to see
something closer to 18mp.



William Robb 



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Re: K-7 replacement?

[John Sessoms]

From: Miserere

On 27 April 2010 22:05, Graydon  wrote:

>

[snip] and the sensor won't be either Sony or Samsung.

Which basically leaves us with Kodak, who only makes a CCD, not CMOS,
FF sensor. While I'm sure Pentax could do a better job with high ISO
than Leica has with the M9, I'd still much rather prefer a Sony
sensor. And why did you say Pentax couldn't rely on Sony for sensors?
The K100D and K10D both featured Sony sensors and provided (and still
provide in my house) outstanding IQ. Pentax have done fantastically
with Sony sensors, and I wish they'd never gone to Samsung.

Cheers,


Issues I'm aware of:

1. Quality - Sony had some quality issues with some of their sensors, 
leading to a massive recall affecting models from several brands ... I 
think Pentax may have had several p&s models that were affected.


http://www.imaging-resource.com/badccds.html

2. Supply - Sony didn't have the manufacturing capacity to meet demand 
... or so they claimed. This was, I believe, the original impetus behind 
the Samsung deal; Sony couldn't guarantee delivery in quantities Pentax 
desired.


3. Business Practices - There are some indications that Sony may have 
manipulated #2 to disadvantage competitors, i.e. having a plentiful 
supply for their own use, while delaying supplies to competitors who 
relied on Sony sensors.


There may be others.

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RE: Maybe my favorite image in the book

[Bob W]

[...]
> OK, next year's theme, or meme: *really* long non-literal 
> titles.  Who can create the longest?  (I'm guessing Bob W if 
> he manages to find a suitable Pentax to shoot with.)
> 

I don't do titles, I do captions. The captions do not provide information
that is in the pictures. 

Otherwise you'd get titles such as 'A picture of a man jumping from a
ladder-like object, almost landing in a puddle, near some railings close to
the Gare St-Lazare and on the railings is a poster which shows some figures
also jumping in a strange echo of the man jumping the puddle as well as the
name Railowski which has a strange verbal echo with the background railings
and the railway station and the ladder-like piece of wood in the puddle,
which is itself a source of further echo in that it reflects the scene back
and contains some hoops which echo the ripples from the ladder'.

B


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Re: GESO from a Norwegian Pentaxian Gathering

[Miserere]

On 28 April 2010 01:46, AlunFoto  wrote:
> That was odd.
> I've tried to reset the access rights now. Please try again. :-)
>
> Jostein

I never knew Norwegians were so easy to hate...and it's all your fault.

Loved Aurora and the Gulls, but you can buy your own damn beer when we
meet in Chicago  :-p


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Re: K-7 replacement?

[Jack Davis]

An absolutely "Darwinian" necessity!

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, William Robb  wrote:

> From: William Robb 
> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:18 AM
> 
> - Original Message - From: "CheekyGeek"
> Subject: Re: K-7 replacement?
> 
> 
> > I would simply add that having your $500 camera
> out-perform your
> > flagship $1000 camera is a bit of embarrassment that
> must be rectified
> > with at minimum an upgrade version of the K7, if not
> an entirely new
> > model. In other words, if you take what you learned in
> creating the
> > K-x and put it in your flagship model, you've got a
> World-Beater.
> 
> To be fair, the K-x outperforms the K7 in only one
> parameter.
> Dropping the K-x sensor into a K7 body and calling it a new
> camera isn't viable since it would be going backwards in
> megapixels.
> I like Adam's idea of a 14mp Sony sensor, but I'd really
> like to see something closer to 18mp.
> 
> William Robb
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Congrats to Pentax: TIPA Award for K-x

[CheekyGeek]

Best DSLR: Entry Level
http://www.tipa.com/english/XX_tipa_awards_2010.php

That is a heck of an accomplishment, I don't care what anybody else says.

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