Re: chicago updates

2010-05-05 Thread Boris Liberman

Da, I am bringing mine ;-).

Boris

On 5/5/2010 6:18 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

5) This is probably a big *duh*, but everyone attending the exhibit
should bring their cameras :-).

Cheers, Christine



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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

2010-05-05 Thread Anthony Farr
By the end of round 2 most of the big names will have been pitted
against each other leaving very few of the greats in the contest.
It's not a bad idea, but the organiser doesn't know much about
keeping the star attractions away from each other until at least the
semi-finals.

regards, Anthony

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to those who lack in mind and sight
   (Anon)



On 5 May 2010 07:53, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Brackets are tough:

 http://blakeandrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/street-photography-tournament.html

 go for it


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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

2010-05-05 Thread Cotty

 I think you're looking at their seedings.

Now there's an idea that's germinating.




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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread AlunFoto
Wow, that's impressing. But still, it's a little over 29 hours
straight, with 7 transfers; one of them including different train
stations, and some transfer windows less than half an hour. With due
respect for German punctuality, the probability of missing a departure
is pretty high.

Flight time between Oslo and London is 1 hour 50 minutes. Add another
hour on each side for checkins, luggage and security, and another hour
on each side for getting from airport to town, and you still have
nearly 24 hours more at your disposal.

It's entirely beyond me how people actually enjoy train rides, but
that's down to preference. If one has the time, one can choose how to
spend it.

As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
trains or planes. :-)

Jostein


2010/5/5 Bob W p...@web-options.com:

 Let's see... Oslo - London by train...

 Route will go through:
 Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium,
 France, and UK.

 No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying
 the national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.


 Deutsche Bahn did it in one:

 Station/Stop    Date    Time    Platform        Products
 London St. Pancras International         Mo, 10.05.10    dep     11:04
 EST 9126         EUROSTAR
 Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar  Mo, 10.05.10    arr     14:05
 Bruxelles-Midi Eurostar  Mo, 10.05.10    dep     14:05          transfer
 18 min.
 Bruxelles-Midi   Mo, 10.05.10    arr     14:23
 Bruxelles-Midi   Mo, 10.05.10    dep     14:28          THA 9433
 Thalys
 Köln Hbf         Mo, 10.05.10    arr     16:18
 Köln Hbf         Mo, 10.05.10    dep     17:48   2      ICE 955
 Intercity-Express
 Berlin Hbf       Mo, 10.05.10    arr     22:21   11 D - G
 Berlin Hbf       Mo, 10.05.10                           walk     8 min.
 Berlin Hbf (tief)        Mo, 10.05.10
 Berlin Hbf (tief)        Mo, 10.05.10    dep     23:01   4      EN 210
 EuroNight
 Lund Central     Tu, 11.05.10    arr     08:11
 Lund Central     Tu, 11.05.10    dep     09:22          R 1026   Oeresundzug
 Göteborg Central         Tu, 11.05.10    arr     12:17
 Göteborg Central         Tu, 11.05.10    dep     12:45          R 394
 Regionalzug
 Oslo S   Tu, 11.05.10    arr     16:45



 Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg,
 Sweden. It costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket
 to London, takes 3 hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even
 traveled _one quarter_ of the way yet.

 I've done my share of interrailing. The fun is lost on me, I'm afraid.

 Jostein


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Andrea Coffey
On 4 May 2010 17:28, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 ... presumably the Leica ball head (I already have one of these) would fit on 
 top of the telescope rod to provide a
 reasonable monopod with the adjustability coming from the ball head?

Yes. Novoflex make the Basic Ball (on their macro tripod page) with
the standard 1/4 tripod mount threads in all the holes, and all the
screw ends of legs and attachments.

I use the Leica ball head in my set up, because it allows for an axtra
degree of flexibility. (I've mounted Manfrotto RC4 quick-release shoe
on the top of all my ball heads.)


  Is the basic ball necessary in a set up like that?

For me, it allows just a bit more height (length on the telescoping
leg), by screwing the leg into the head of the bolt through the
Basic Ball, which is used for attaching the Basic Ball to the ball
head (or camera).

I leave the Novoflex Basic Ball and Leica ball head screwed together,
with a firm connection, for ease of use. I then screw whatever
attachments I want, into the Basic Ball.


The only catch is with the Leica ball head: when tightened, it won't
drop down to 90 degrees -- it's maybe only 89 degrees. So by adjusting
the holes used in the Basic Ball, or the length of the telescoping
leg, I can offset the ball head to permit tipping the quick release
plate into a vertical plane.



On 5 May 2010 04:46, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 You could also buy a single QuadroPod leg from Novoflex, they make several 
 different ones
 http://www.novoflex.com/en/products/camera-support-systems/quadropod/quadropod-legs/
 There is even a telescope hiking stick plus it would have an upgrade path to 
 a full QuadroPod

The legs in the quadro pod system are all interchangeable with the
Basic Ball (and vice versa). I'd encourage you all to have a look at
the downloadable PDF descriptions on the Novoflex web site: they have
some excellent ideas -- all beautifully executed. (And no, I don't
have shares in Novoflex.)

The telescoping hiking stick (which is terrific, by the way), is what
I currently use with the Basic Ball.


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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
Yes, it's only a pleasant trip if the journey is part of the pleasure for
you and if you give yourself a stress-free time between connections. Or if
there is a volcanic ash cloud keeping your plane on the ground. When I was
planning my rail trip to Fez I built in some overnight stops in major cities
to enjoy their museums, rather than rushing .

I don't understand why so many people who were recently stranded by the ash
cloud spent money on long-distance taxis when a little thought could have
put them on trains, but the reactions of many people on their return to
thebosom of their native land was interesting (and bad news for some of us).
They were thrilled to have seen so much of the countryside and villages of
places like France and Spain which they normally fly over on their way to
Costa Del Chipshop that they are thinking of holidaying there in the future.
So every volcanic cloud has some sort of lining.

Bob

 
 Wow, that's impressing. But still, it's a little over 29 
 hours straight, with 7 transfers; one of them including 
 different train stations, and some transfer windows less than 
 half an hour. With due respect for German punctuality, the 
 probability of missing a departure is pretty high.


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Andrea Coffey
On 5 May 2010 17:25, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
 anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
 trains or planes. :-)

Oh yes!

Now _that_ will be _real_ travelling. Even with irregular departures.
Just imagine the view: one step beyond hot air balloon flights -- and
they are a whole lot of fun.

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread mike wilson

 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Btw, it goes without saying that the FA* 600/4 will stay at home this time. 
 :-)

Cotty reckons to have it fully converted by the time you get back.

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
 
 Maybe the weather service will actually send up a plane to 
 sample the dust this time.  It seems that there wasn't enough 
 last time to actually cause any damage, but due to technical 
 problems the plane never left the hanger, and the MET relied 
 entirely on computer models that were apparently wrong.
 
 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268794/Remember-ash-c
 loud-It-didnt-exist-says-new-evidence.html#ixzz0mF9IjOBS
 
 Still it is from the Daily Mail
 

Quite. Planes did leave the ground and sample the cloud, according to
sources which don't invent the news to fit their own nasty little agenda.

Bob


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RE: Long lens updates [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]

2010-05-05 Thread John Whittingham
I'll admit to being tempted to buy one but never bit the bullet.

John

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On 2 May 2010 06:53, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 Heck, you can get a 250-1200 on eBay for only $280. Why wait!   :-)


On the occasions that I notice that 250-1200mm lens, I think WTF?  And
then I wonder things like who the hell makes this lens, how awful can
it be and what's it really like?.

But my mind goes back to all those generic stovepipe  400mm and 500mm
teles that IIRC were made by Tamron and sold under countless in-house
brand names at countless camera stores around the world, usually for
$49.99.  In their day they were sneered at as cheap and nasty
imitations of lenses for the use of cheap and nasty imitators of
photographers.  But somewhere in the years between, while I was
looking elsewhere, these lenses became cult classics, fondly regarded
for their good performance at modest prices.  Again, WTF?

SO, has anybody ever read a review of these 250-1200 cheapies?  Or
used one and is prepared to admit to it?

regards, Anthony

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RE: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
That's great - it really is a classic diner in every way.

You have the makings of a book there. One of my favourites resources for
trips to Paris is this book about bistros:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Authentic-photographs-Ageorges-Francois-Thomazeau/d
p/1892145340

You could do a lot worse than imitate its style, particular as far as
writing about them is concerned.

Another great book along similar lines, but more wide-ranging, is The French
Cafe:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/French-Cafe-Marie-France-Boyer/dp/0500016224/ref=sr
_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1273045752sr=1-1

 
 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner
 
 As always, Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, and Abuse are 
 all welcomed



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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-05 Thread mike wilson

 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: 
 By the time you count the cost of wasted ink, paper etc. what do you end 
 up paying per 4x6, 8x12 and 12x16 print?
 Or alternatively, what would it cost for 50 8x12s and 100 4x6 per month?
 
 In comparison, Costco prices, before tax are:
 $0.13  4x6
 $1.50  8x12
 $3.00 12x16

Apart from cost (it will almost certainly be cheaper) the one big disadvantage 
with home printing is that you will never be satisfied with your output.  
Whereas you would smugly assume that you could do better but be satisfied with 
a bought print, you will redo home stuff until you sicken yourself with the 
process.

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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread AlunFoto
Falk Lumo has posted an article about it on his blog too:
http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2010/04/pentax-shake-reduction-revisited.html

It's a bit tough on the braincells, but quite interesting.
For the math challenged like myself, here's the conclusion:

Pentax delivers a capable shake reduction system able to provide up
to 4 stops stabilization. However, it is designed to work best at
exposure time around 1/20s and therefore, is most useful for normal
and wide angle lenses used at low light or in video. Starting at
around 100mm focal length, it is increasingly unlikely to see a
positive effect from the SR system and beyond 200mm, the SR system
cannot be used anymore to produce tac-shap images at lower than usual
exposure times.

Sadly, this matches my own experience pretty well. :-(

Jostein

2010/5/5 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com:
 On 05/05/2010, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is eerie.
 http://is.gd/bUqH3
 And safe to read.
 It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but it
 seems applicable to Pentax as well.

 The response of the movement sensors used in the Pentax bodies is no
 where near as fast as 1kHz (though I suspect he's interpreting this
 data incorrectly), basically they can detect sway and a certain degree
 of jolt. Like Thom suggests there is a definite shutter speed limit to
 which SR is useful, pointed out fairly eloquently by Falk Lumo on the
 Pentax web forums. It's useful but it's no panacea and really I don't
 think I'd miss it at all moving to a camera like the D700.

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Re: Photo annual has landed (without flowers)

2010-05-05 Thread Toine
Yes maybe, I mainly noticed that popular subjects for peso's like
flowers (or cats) aren't visible in the book maybe that's a good
thing. And the endresult is stunning, compliments to the editors. Next
year I won't submit flowers (or bugs) ;)

Toine

On 4 May 2010 20:40, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...Or cats.

 Maybe we should keep it that way!

 Just sayin...  ;-)


  --M.


 On 02/05/2010, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 The book arrived last week. Congrats everyone!
 What strikes me most: I didn't spot any flowers (not counting flowers
 in landscapes).
 Something to remember for my submissions next year...

 Toine

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Re: Exhibit Question - Dress

2010-05-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/5 David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com:
 That's not really surprising if you understand how camo works.  It's
 not really designed to hide you, it's designed to break up your
 pattern while you are moving so it's harder to determine your shape.
 You see a moving form, but not a distinct outline.  It's similar to
 how the stripes on a zebra work with tall grass when they are running
 as a herd.  The stripes and grass combine to make it very difficult
 for lions to tell where one zebra ends and another one starts.

That's silly. Everyone knows that zebras are just horses in pyjamas.

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/5 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:

  AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Btw, it goes without saying that the FA* 600/4 will stay at home this time. 
 :-)

 Cotty reckons to have it fully converted by the time you get back.

Only if he can get here by train. :-)

Jostein

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread mike wilson

 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
 2010/5/4 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com:
 
  If I was in Europe, I don't think I'd ever fly.
 
  Trains are a lot more fun, and in Europe you can actually get somewhere on
  'em.
 
 Let's see... Oslo - London by train...
 
 Route will go through:
 Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, The Netherlands, Belgium, France, and UK.
 
 No central itinerary planner, will have to do it by studying the
 national railways of at least 5 countries/languages.
 
 Longest stretch I can book from Oslo is to Gothenburg, Sweden. It
 costs about as much as a low-fare airline ticket to London, takes 3
 hours 50 minutes, and I haven't even traveled _one quarter_ of the way
 yet.
 
 I've done my share of interrailing. The fun is lost on me, I'm afraid.

I never took you for the jaundiced type. 8-)  Have you tried the Deutche Bahn 
site?  http://www.bahn.com/i/view/GBR/en/index.shtml  About 28hours from Oslo 
to London.  Infinitely preferable to 4 hours on a plane.

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread AlunFoto
2010/5/5 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
 I never took you for the jaundiced type. 8-)

Well I've been known to unload bile in this forum. :-)

 Have you tried the Deutche Bahn site?

Not in the current incarnation, no. What BobW posted was quite
impressive, especially since they seem to know more about Scandinavian
train schedules than do the local company websites...

 About 28hours from Oslo to London.
 Infinitely preferable to 4 hours on a plane.

Some nits could be picked on those numbers, but I think we should just
agree to disagree here. :-)

Jostein

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Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?

2010-05-05 Thread mike wilson

 William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Mark Roberts
 Subject: Re: Printing cost, home vs. Costco ?
 
 
  William Robb wrote:
 
 What isn't working in my favour is that I'm not doing as much printing as 
 I
 thought, so I have a $2.5k bookend sitting behind me that drinks ink the 
 way
 I drink red wine.
 
  I'll trade you a case of red wine for your printer.
 
 
 What kind are you offering?

Whatever the Costco special is this week?  That's what we're comparing, isn't 
it?

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread mike wilson

 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 
 2010/5/5 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com:
  I never took you for the jaundiced type. 8-)
 
 Well I've been known to unload bile in this forum. :-)
 
  Have you tried the Deutche Bahn site?
 
 Not in the current incarnation, no. What BobW posted was quite
 impressive, especially since they seem to know more about Scandinavian
 train schedules than do the local company websites...

I've used it to plan journeys as far as Russia.  DB is in the process of 
picking up some UK train franchises.  Today, Europe

 
  About 28hours from Oslo to London.
  Infinitely preferable to 4 hours on a plane.
 
 Some nits could be picked on those numbers, but I think we should just
 agree to disagree here. :-)


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Re: limiter thingee..

2010-05-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
So, how is life with the Thingee?  Does it work?  BTW, I believe that
every field has a word for thingy, i.e., species, system, body,
widget, etc.  I suggest you adopt moiety.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 I just saw all of the techo talk on the other thread about a recommended
 portrait lens and references to the FA 100m/2.8 macros, which I have, thanks
 to Steve, just been enabled with.

 Can someone put all of this stuff into fairygirl speak for me?  Just what
 does that limiter thingee do anyways?

 Tan.:)


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread eckinator
2010/5/5 Andrea Coffey why@gmail.com:

  Is the basic ball necessary in a set up like that?
[...] I then screw whatever
 attachments I want, into the Basic Ball.

Another strong point, Novoflex accessory arms (ARM/MARM and short -K
versions) and their lighting systems such as the ArtLight / FlashArt
(same as ArtLight but added flash function via hotshoe generator) and
so on... really worth a read. I also keep a FastenR (R-strap screw)
screwed into one of the accessory holes of my QuadroPod base at all
times. Same can be done with the BasicBall

 The legs in the quadro pod system are all interchangeable with the
 Basic Ball (and vice versa). I'd encourage you all to have a look at
 the downloadable PDF descriptions on the Novoflex web site: they have
 some excellent ideas -- all beautifully executed. (And no, I don't
 have shares in Novoflex.)

SECONDED - I have lots of their stuff and I am happy with eversy
single piece, here's my list in case you want to know more about it
AutoDuoFlash Gen2 with detachable generator
BalPro T/S tilt/shift bellows with 80/4 Apo Digitar and ProShift+
panorama adaptor
Castel-K (FS) and Castel-Q (WTB more) macro rails
ClassicBall 3 with Q-Base quick release
FlashArt attachment for flash generator, doubles as permanent light
source on 6xAAA
FlashGriff flash handle
Macro/Repro Stand with standard MAWA and slide duplicator insert and
MaKlem object holders
MacroStand (sold/optioned)
MagicStudio 50 set with 2 MagicLights
Marm/Arm 5 long 3 short
MiniConnect L bracket and 1/4 plate (FS)
Panorama=Q and Panorama=Q PRO pano plates
UniKlem clamp tripod and 2 UniKlem42 accessory clamps
UniMarm one predecessor to item below (sold)
QPL-AT1, QPL-2 and QPL-Vertikal quick release plates
XX-Halter the current dual flash / accessory carrier but gen 1 w/o QR groove
Cheers
Ecke

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread eckinator
2010/5/5 Andrea Coffey why@gmail.com:

 The telescoping hiking stick (which is terrific, by the way), is what
 I currently use with the Basic Ball.

Tell me more please, I've been considering one for a while
TIA Ecke

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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread Tom C.
Quite interesting.  Yes it was an exercise to read.  The
false-negative bit re. tripod use was interesting also.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/05/2010, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is eerie.
 http://is.gd/bUqH3
 And safe to read.
 It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but it
 seems applicable to Pentax as well.

 The response of the movement sensors used in the Pentax bodies is no
 where near as fast as 1kHz (though I suspect he's interpreting this
 data incorrectly), basically they can detect sway and a certain degree
 of jolt. Like Thom suggests there is a definite shutter speed limit to
 which SR is useful, pointed out fairly eloquently by Falk Lumo on the
 Pentax web forums. It's useful but it's no panacea and really I don't
 think I'd miss it at all moving to a camera like the D700.

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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread paul stenquist
Very nice. A fascinating place.
Paul
On May 4, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Tom C. wrote:

 Dan,
 
 I haven't paid attention to your blog of diner photos to date...
 however on the basis of this image alone, I'll take a look.
 
 Well done!
 
 Tom C.
 
 
 On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner
 
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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-05-05 1:49, Larry Colen wrote:


I've not actually done any comprehensive tests. I also always figured
that at high shutterspeeds there'd be little enough range of movement
that SR being on or not would be moot.


I haven't specificially tested for it, but I have done spot checks, and 
it appears, without the scientific rigor, that SR on the K10D has had a 
positive effect on my hit rate while panning at shutter speeds up to 
1/250 and focal lengths up to 400mm.  It doesn't do much for the 
direction I'm panning (horizontal) but definitely seems to help with the 
vertical.  This is based on some very informal head-to-head testing I 
did with the *ist D and K10D when I first got the K10D.


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Andrea Coffey
On 5 May 2010 21:44, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 The telescoping hiking stick (which is terrific, by the way), is what
 I currently use with the Basic Ball.

 Tell me more please, I've been considering one for a while

They are carbon fibre, mainly black with Novoflex blue highlights, 3
sections, markings at the two joins to indicate extended (total)
length (110 to 145 cm, in 5cm steps). Comes with metal pin at foot,
and replacement rubber foot (I made the replacement on mine). Wooden
threaded knob on top (standard 1/4 tripod female thread, male screw
from stick), with comfortably padded (durable) foam grip, and
adjustable webbing strap (some 46cm long) for use as walking stick.
Made in Germany by Leki. Closed length 665mm, knob ~50mm diameter,
removable stiff rubber bump protector at bottom ~53mm diameter. Mass
of 290g with rubber foot and bump protector.

I bought mine on spec (speculatively), and am very pleased.

I've used it as a walking stick, traversing some slippery (sand on
stone) slopes, and it enabled secure passage, providing a third point
of contact with the ground. Highly recommended. I'm some 178cm tall,
and pretty solid, and at no time did I feel as if it was ever going to
fail. I did ensure the two extension joints were firmly screwed at my
desired length (different for ascending and descending slopes).

For use as a monopod, it has the standard 1/4 tripod screw exposed by
unscrewing the wooden knob. Length to start of screw (closest to the
ground) is 143cm, centre of viewfinder of Pentax K-7 is 167cm above
ground, using walking stick, Basic Ball, Leica ball head, Manfrotto
RC4 shoe and RC4 plate on base of camera. In other words, sufficiently
long for me.

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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 08:29:51AM -0400, Doug Franklin scripsit:
 On 2010-05-05 1:49, Larry Colen wrote:
 I've not actually done any comprehensive tests. I also always figured
 that at high shutterspeeds there'd be little enough range of movement
 that SR being on or not would be moot.
 
 I haven't specificially tested for it, but I have done spot checks,
 and it appears, without the scientific rigor, that SR on the K10D
 has had a positive effect on my hit rate while panning at shutter
 speeds up to 1/250 and focal lengths up to 400mm.  It doesn't do
 much for the direction I'm panning (horizontal) but definitely seems
 to help with the vertical.  This is based on some very informal
 head-to-head testing I did with the *ist D and K10D when I first got
 the K10D.

I think it's pretty much good for user-induced shake all the time.
(800mm mirror lens hand-held, for example.)  It's a question of when the
user-induced shake is the dominant contributor to the image being
blurry, and if it's useful then.  (so far as I can tell, if you get to
1/15, the answer is no, because the amplitude of the shake is too big in
relation to the shutter speed.)

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Re: gesoish, an atypical British sports coupe

2010-05-05 Thread Tom Cakalic
Yeah, it does, but I love the Inerceptor MK II and Series 4 with the
wraparound fastbacks.  Those were/are some beautiful cars.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/05/2010, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On my way to lunch I saw an interesting car parked at a shop and stopped to
 grab some photos. These cars are fairly rare, and apart from this one being
 at a shop, they are quite atypical of British cars. This post is more along
 the lines of sharing snapshots of a cool piece of machinery than showing off
 pictures, but go ahead and comment if you'd like:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623871260415/

 Oh dear, that roofline sucks!

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-05 Thread Igor Roshchin

Larry,

In my opinion, in these sets (as in many other photos that I see
from dance events), - the two main problems are: 
1. composition and
2. choosing what to keep.

A simple example of what I mean in 1.:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca#!/photo.php?pid=3933831id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca
(Just people's backs)

Here is yet another one:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869#!/photo.php?pid=821721id=1587681869
It's a poor way to frame a shot.

Let's try to catch as many people in one shot as possible:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e#!/photo.php?pid=5228369id=653299672

These three represent what is typical.

2. can help with all of these problems, but I am guilty on that count 
myself. :-)

Sorry for being rather critical here (there are a few good shots in
all 3 sets), - it's just I keep being surprised (and annoyed) why
people don't do simple things that are much more simple (technically/
instrumentally) then shooting in low ISO, etc.

Cheers,

Igor


On 5/4/2010 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

 Mine-Pentax:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

 Scott-Nikon: (corrected link)
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca

 David-Canon and Panny PS:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsgeisel/sets/72157623990213540/

 With the relatively bright light, I'd say that the K-x and the D70 
 came out fairly close with the Rebel XSi lagging a bit. Part of that 
 may have to do with Scott and I shooting at blues events a lot more 
 frequently and David primarily shooting at Victorian dances, which 
 tend to be much more brightly lit.



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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread eckinator
2010/5/5 Andrea Coffey why@gmail.com:
 On 5 May 2010 21:44, eckinator eckina...@gmail.com wrote:
 The telescoping hiking stick (which is terrific, by the way), is what
 I currently use with the Basic Ball.

 Tell me more please, I've been considering one for a while

 They are carbon fibre, mainly black with Novoflex blue highlights, 3
 sections, markings at the two joins to indicate extended (total)
 length (110 to 145 cm, in 5cm steps). Comes with metal pin at foot,
 and replacement rubber foot (I made the replacement on mine). Wooden
 threaded knob on top (standard 1/4 tripod female thread, male screw
 from stick), with comfortably padded (durable) foam grip, and
 adjustable webbing strap (some 46cm long) for use as walking stick.
 Made in Germany by Leki. Closed length 665mm, knob ~50mm diameter,
 removable stiff rubber bump protector at bottom ~53mm diameter. Mass
 of 290g with rubber foot and bump protector.

 I bought mine on spec (speculatively), and am very pleased.

 I've used it as a walking stick, traversing some slippery (sand on
 stone) slopes, and it enabled secure passage, providing a third point
 of contact with the ground. Highly recommended. I'm some 178cm tall,
 and pretty solid, and at no time did I feel as if it was ever going to
 fail. I did ensure the two extension joints were firmly screwed at my
 desired length (different for ascending and descending slopes).

 For use as a monopod, it has the standard 1/4 tripod screw exposed by
 unscrewing the wooden knob. Length to start of screw (closest to the
 ground) is 143cm, centre of viewfinder of Pentax K-7 is 167cm above
 ground, using walking stick, Basic Ball, Leica ball head, Manfrotto
 RC4 shoe and RC4 plate on base of camera. In other words, sufficiently
 long for me.

Sounds great, thank you Andrea!
Looks like more funds flowing their way once they can be spared =)
Ecke

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Re: GESO - First Chicago shots

2010-05-05 Thread Paul Sorenson

My turn...

http://www.studio1941.com/chicago_aug_2006/ds2_imgp0826.htm

http://tinyurl.com/2froeeg*

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Subject: Re: GESO - First Chicago shots



Chris Mitchell wrote:

From a walk round Millennium park and an evening boat ride round 
the city.

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChicagoReflections/


Isn't the Bean fun to photograph? And to watch other people
photographing?

Here's my personal best Bean shot:
http://www.robertstech.com/pages/fotoblog/7d703445.htm
Taken with the 10-17 fisheye, which bends the buildings of the skyline
dramatically... while the counter-distortion of the Bean makes the
reflections straight.




Ok, I'll play the bean flash  :-)
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/bean/content/IMGP5294_large.html

Note the year  lens--this was a bit before the LBA started  :-)  
Cheers, Christine





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Re: chicago updates

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 4 May 2010 23:18, Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 1)  All our work was delivered on time on Monday, 5/3 at 10:00ish  a.mish.

 2) Gallery has been repainted for our install, and our work is being
 installed.

 3) Framer called me with a big hearty thank you and said it was a fun
 project to work on.  Can't say enough about Fastframe--very nice
 people--very accommodating.

 4) Celtic Fest is advertised as running during our exhibit weekend, which
 could be fun on Sat for a photowalk after the museum, provided it doesn't
 rain.  Lots of music and various festival activity.  Should make for some
 nice energy downtown.  Celtic Fest has usually run in Sept for the past
 several years.  I didn't even believe my friend when she told me it was
 running this coming weekend.  I still only half believe it, but here's the
 link:
 http://www.explorechicago.org/city/en/things_see_do/event_landing/special_events/mose/celtic_fest_chicago.html

 5) This is probably a big *duh*, but everyone attending the exhibit should
 bring their cameras :-).

 Cheers, Christine

Thanks for the heads-up, Christine. I now know I should wear my Boston
Celtics T-shirt on Saturday  :-)

You've done a huge job with this exhibit, Christine. Not sure how
we're going to repay you...

THANK YOU


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 3:40 AM, Bob W wrote:

Maybe the weather service will actually send up a plane to
sample the dust this time.  It seems that there wasn't enough
last time to actually cause any damage, but due to technical
problems the plane never left the hanger, and the MET relied
entirely on computer models that were apparently wrong.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268794/Remember-ash-c
loud-It-didnt-exist-says-new-evidence.html#ixzz0mF9IjOBS

Still it is from the Daily Mail

 

Quite. Planes did leave the ground and sample the cloud, according to
sources which don't invent the news to fit their own nasty little agenda.

Bob


   
I've do a little research, and it appears that no matter what the 
Mail's agenda, there was little enough reason for a blankett ban air 
travel.  Plenty of blame to go around.


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Not only for the 645 lovers...

2010-05-05 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody,

It's been a long, long time since my last message here, hope you didn't miss me 
too much... :)

I came across these press release pictures of the new Fiat Uno, now on sale in 
Brazil.
One of the pictures shows a retention curtain holding (gasp!) a old Pentax 
645... 

http://www.autoblog.it/galleria/big/nuova-fiat-uno-01/14
http://www.autoblog.it/post/26820/fiat-uno-dati-e-immagini-ufficiali#continua

Quite interesting, although a strange choice, don't you think?

Ciao,

Gianfranco


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Re: Tamron Adaptall

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling
A 200mm f1.8 cost $4500.00 when it was new. The cost of three of those 
would replace my entire kit, (and I've got a lot of kit), and then some.


On 5/5/2010 12:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
As it turns out, the guy on craigslist never replied to any of my 
emails about the tammy 300/2.8.  However, I got a note on facebook 
from a friend who would like to sell his. Or at the very least is 
willing to loan it to me to see if I want it. He never uses it since 
he got a 200/1.8. (85/1.2  200/1.8 it seems that Canon are the people 
to go to for glass that is long and fast)


His has a Canon FD mount.  I have an Adaptall II PK mount, but if I 
interpret some comments correctly there is a PKA mount that'll 
(sometimes) transmit info like aperture to the body.  Does anyone have 
one of these kicking around that they want to sell?





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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 09:58:58AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 I've do a little research, and it appears that no matter what the
 Mail's agenda, there was little enough reason for a blankett ban
 air travel.  Plenty of blame to go around.

Sure there is.

The ash is not evenly distributed.  The ash is not predictably
distributed.  There's, oh, one chance in a hundred thousand of an
emergency and some lesser chance of a crash if an aircraft flies through
the ash cloud, and because it's not a nice neat plume it's difficult to
route around.  (It could well be worse than that; there isn't a large
body of statistical data on flying wide-body jet aircraft through ash
plumes because on those few occasions when it has been done it has gone
extremely wrong.)

There's between 22 and 25 thousand air movements in the affected area
of Western Europe every day.  So one chance in 5 some flight has an
emergency, every day.  Four chances in five that you'll get one in a
week.  Do that for two weeks and the odds of a crash get peskily close
to certain.

Despite which, many of the flights wouldn't have been affected at all.

It's just that the one that *did* get the total engine out and crash
would have been correctly describable as completely predictable.

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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 4 May 2010 19:41, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think that we have the right to comment, often the users have a
 better idea of what companies should be doing compared to what they
 are doing.

Of course we all have the freedom to comment, but many people don't
seem to understand how a camera company works and are 1 f-stop away
from asking for an 18-200mm f/2 zoom under 0.5kg that fits in a
pocket. I'm all for discussing the future, but would rather we kept it
realistic, so I'll stay away from pipe-dream threads.

  For instance the very obvious fact that here and on other
 forums Pentax shooters are either supplementing or entirely dumping
 their Pentax kits for 36x24mm sensor bodies whilst Pentax is gearing
 to provide a very niche 645D body and some lenses is difficult to
 envision as a well conceived decision on so many levels.

From the get-go I was against a 645D. Pentax has much more pressing
needs (or at least its user base does), with lenses coming way ahead
of full-frame. But Pentax does its strange things, like it always has.
But here's something I want to throw out there, and I'm not aiming
this at your specifically, Rob, even if I am replying to your message:

What if Pentax knows what it's doing by holding back on FF? What if
there is no point to digital FF, Pentax knows it, and is just waiting
for consumers to figure it out? What if not releasing a FF camera
right now is what the user needs, even if it's not what (s)he wants?

Let's imagine Pentax's K-7 successor (and let's call it the K-8) has a
15MP Sony sensor with the high ISO capabilities of the K-x, and the
camera retains all the good stuff the K-7 already has. Furthermore, it
has a VF with 1.4x magnification and 98% coverage. Would people prefer
this camera for $1,300, or a camera with the same specs (minus the VF
numbers) with a FF 24MP sensor for $2,000?

Here are some VF sizes for comparison:

K10/20D: 329.4 mm^2
K-7: 335.8 mm^2
K-8:  500.8 mm^2
D700: 588.5 mm^2
5D mkII: 601.2 mm^2

Cheers,


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Re: Not only for the 645 lovers...

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 5 May 2010 09:58, Gianfranco Irlanda gianfrancoirla...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 It's been a long, long time since my last message here, hope you didn't miss 
 me too much... :)

 I came across these press release pictures of the new Fiat Uno, now on sale 
 in Brazil.
 One of the pictures shows a retention curtain holding (gasp!) a old Pentax 
 645...

 http://www.autoblog.it/galleria/big/nuova-fiat-uno-01/14
 http://www.autoblog.it/post/26820/fiat-uno-dati-e-immagini-ufficiali#continua

 Quite interesting, although a strange choice, don't you think?

 Ciao,

 Gianfranco

Actually, the ties are holding the car onto the camera, not the other
way around.

:-)


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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 5 May 2010 08:45, Graydon gray...@marost.ca wrote:

 I think it's pretty much good for user-induced shake all the time.
 (800mm mirror lens hand-held, for example.)  It's a question of when the
 user-induced shake is the dominant contributor to the image being
 blurry, and if it's useful then.  (so far as I can tell, if you get to
 1/15, the answer is no, because the amplitude of the shake is too big in
 relation to the shutter speed.)

 -- Graydon

I have found my K10D's SR to be useful when hand-holding my 600mm
mirror lens, but much less useful than at lower focal lengths. With a
50mm lens I can consistently shoot sharp at 1/10s (which is about 3
stops of help), but with the 600mm I can't go much slower than
1/400s or so (which is about 1 stop of help). I keep meaning to test
setting the SR to 800mm when using the mirror lens to see if that
improves things.

Cheers,


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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Bob, for your comments and suggestions.  I really am thinking
of a little book, perhaps in the near future.  I will indeed check out
the books you recommended.

Dan

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 That's great - it really is a classic diner in every way.

 You have the makings of a book there. One of my favourites resources for
 trips to Paris is this book about bistros:
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Authentic-photographs-Ageorges-Francois-Thomazeau/d
 p/1892145340

 You could do a lot worse than imitate its style, particular as far as
 writing about them is concerned.

 Another great book along similar lines, but more wide-ranging, is The French
 Cafe:
 http://www.amazon.co.uk/French-Cafe-Marie-France-Boyer/dp/0500016224/ref=sr
 _1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1273045752sr=1-1


 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner

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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Paul.

Dan

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:20 AM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Very nice. A fascinating place.
 Paul
 On May 4, 2010, at 11:59 PM, Tom C. wrote:

 Dan,

 I haven't paid attention to your blog of diner photos to date...
 however on the basis of this image alone, I'll take a look.

 Well done!

 Tom C.


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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found my K10D's SR to be useful when hand-holding my 600mm
 mirror lens, but much less useful than at lower focal lengths.

I would expect that at the longest focal lengths, the system just
can't move the sensor fast enough to keep up.  (Either because of lag
in the system, or because the actuators can't apply enough force.)

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John Waters on Photography and Voyeurism

2010-05-05 Thread CheekyGeek
Apologies if this has been discussed here before, but I think I got
the link from delicious.com yesterday and am just now getting around
to reading it.
Some interesting observations that others might want to add to...
entitled: PHOTOGRAPHY CHANGES WHO AND WHAT WE CAN STARE AT
http://click.si.edu/Story.aspx?story=690

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Re: Not only for the 645 lovers...

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Miserere wrote:

On 5 May 2010 09:58, Gianfranco Irlanda gianfrancoirla...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi everybody,

 It's been a long, long time since my last message here, hope you didn't miss 
 me too much... :)

 I came across these press release pictures of the new Fiat Uno, now on sale 
 in Brazil.
 One of the pictures shows a retention curtain holding (gasp!) a old Pentax 
 645...

 http://www.autoblog.it/galleria/big/nuova-fiat-uno-01/14
 http://www.autoblog.it/post/26820/fiat-uno-dati-e-immagini-ufficiali#continua

 Quite interesting, although a strange choice, don't you think?

 Ciao,

 Gianfranco

Actually, the ties are holding the car onto the camera, not the other
way around.

:-)

I've heard that Pentax will be giving away a Fiat Uno with every 645D
purchased...



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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 10:17 AM, Graydon wrote:

On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 09:58:58AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
   

I've do a little research, and it appears that no matter what the
Mail's agenda, there was little enough reason for a blankett ban
air travel.  Plenty of blame to go around.
 

Sure there is.

The ash is not evenly distributed.  The ash is not predictably
distributed.  There's, oh, one chance in a hundred thousand of an
emergency and some lesser chance of a crash if an aircraft flies through
the ash cloud, and because it's not a nice neat plume it's difficult to
route around.  (It could well be worse than that; there isn't a large
body of statistical data on flying wide-body jet aircraft through ash
plumes because on those few occasions when it has been done it has gone
extremely wrong.)

There's between 22 and 25 thousand air movements in the affected area
of Western Europe every day.  So one chance in 5 some flight has an
emergency, every day.  Four chances in five that you'll get one in a
week.  Do that for two weeks and the odds of a crash get peskily close
to certain.

Despite which, many of the flights wouldn't have been affected at all.

It's just that the one that *did* get the total engine out and crash
would have been correctly describable as completely predictable.

-- Graydon
   


WTF?  The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens, there 
was no continent wide ban and no air crashes.  Yes, there were several 
planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but they were in 
the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption occured.  Most 
delays were caused by ripple effects from places actually effected by 
the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very good idea of where the 
problems areas lay.


If the US and Canada had taken the same tack as Europe not a plane would 
have flown in North America from Mexico to the Arctic Circle, for the 
duration of the several eruptions that took place. That didn't happen.  
Flights were canceled only where they were at risk.


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RE: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi Dan,

 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner
 
 As always, Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, and Abuse are all
 welcomed

Once more late into this, catching up at last with PDML mail. I wondered
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photographic subjects. Looking forward to seeing this develop; I find this
fascinating both in social history and photographic terms.

Malcolm  


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Graydon
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:29:36AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 On 5/5/2010 10:17 AM, Graydon wrote:
 On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 09:58:58AM -0400, P. J. Alling scripsit:
 I've do a little research, and it appears that no matter what the
 Mail's agenda, there was little enough reason for a blankett ban
 air travel.  Plenty of blame to go around.
 Sure there is.
 
 The ash is not evenly distributed.  The ash is not predictably
 distributed.  There's, oh, one chance in a hundred thousand of an
 emergency and some lesser chance of a crash if an aircraft flies through
 the ash cloud, and because it's not a nice neat plume it's difficult to
 route around.  (It could well be worse than that; there isn't a large
 body of statistical data on flying wide-body jet aircraft through ash
 plumes because on those few occasions when it has been done it has gone
 extremely wrong.)
 
 There's between 22 and 25 thousand air movements in the affected area
 of Western Europe every day.  So one chance in 5 some flight has an
 emergency, every day.  Four chances in five that you'll get one in a
 week.  Do that for two weeks and the odds of a crash get peskily close
 to certain.
 
 Despite which, many of the flights wouldn't have been affected at all.
 
 It's just that the one that *did* get the total engine out and crash
 would have been correctly describable as completely predictable.
 
 WTF?  The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens,
 there was no continent wide ban and no air crashes.  Yes, there were
 several planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but
 they were in the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption
 occured.  Most delays were caused by ripple effects from places
 actually effected by the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very
 good idea of where the problems areas lay.

St. Helens wasn't the same sort of eruption; St. Helens blew off the top
third of the existing cinder cone and scattered that through the
atmosphere, it wasn't producing large quantities of ash in the eruption,
and the majority of the fine ejecta wound up very high due to the
explosive nature of the eruption.  (the less fine ejecta came back
down.)

This particular Icelandic volcano melted its way up through a glacier;
volcanic ash is just lava that has cooled into fine sizes -- think
powdered glass -- and going up through cold water produces a lot of ash
that doesn't go extremely high.  So there's lots of ash and it gets up
to levels where the jet streams can grab it and spread it around, which
are levels where air travel happens.

 If the US and Canada had taken the same tack as Europe not a plane
 would have flown in North America from Mexico to the Arctic Circle,
 for the duration of the several eruptions that took place. That
 didn't happen.  Flights were canceled only where they were at risk.

Which is just what happened this time, too.

It's just that this particular volcano provided more risk.

The US and Canada have been extremely careful about routing air travel
around some Alaskan volcano plumes, for example; we've just been
fortunate that the ash plume is mostly in places where it can be routed
around.  (And the consequences of not routing around were discovered to
be all four engines out and 747s don't glide so well...)

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax 2010 Plans(?)

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 10:24 AM, Miserere wrote:

On 4 May 2010 19:41, Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

I think that we have the right to comment, often the users have a
better idea of what companies should be doing compared to what they
are doing.
 

Of course we all have the freedom to comment, but many people don't
seem to understand how a camera company works and are 1 f-stop away
from asking for an 18-200mm f/2 zoom under 0.5kg that fits in a
pocket. I'm all for discussing the future, but would rather we kept it
realistic, so I'll stay away from pipe-dream threads.

   

  For instance the very obvious fact that here and on other
forums Pentax shooters are either supplementing or entirely dumping
their Pentax kits for 36x24mm sensor bodies whilst Pentax is gearing
to provide a very niche 645D body and some lenses is difficult to
envision as a well conceived decision on so many levels.
 

 From the get-go I was against a 645D. Pentax has much more pressing
needs (or at least its user base does), with lenses coming way ahead
of full-frame. But Pentax does its strange things, like it always has.
But here's something I want to throw out there, and I'm not aiming
this at your specifically, Rob, even if I am replying to your message:

What if Pentax knows what it's doing by holding back on FF? What if
there is no point to digital FF, Pentax knows it, and is just waiting
for consumers to figure it out? What if not releasing a FF camera
right now is what the user needs, even if it's not what (s)he wants?

Let's imagine Pentax's K-7 successor (and let's call it the K-8) has a
15MP Sony sensor with the high ISO capabilities of the K-x, and the
camera retains all the good stuff the K-7 already has. Furthermore, it
has a VF with 1.4x magnification and 98% coverage. Would people prefer
this camera for $1,300, or a camera with the same specs (minus the VF
numbers) with a FF 24MP sensor for $2,000?

Here are some VF sizes for comparison:

K10/20D: 329.4 mm^2
K-7: 335.8 mm^2
K-8:  500.8 mm^2
D700: 588.5 mm^2
5D mkII: 601.2 mm^2

Cheers,


   --M.
   


I think the 1.4x magnification of an APC-C sized viewfinder would be 
pushing the physical limits of what is possible.


I'm currently using the O-ME53 which gives a 1.2x magnification to the 
K20D.  The view approximates what you see through the viewfinder of the 
MZ/ZX 3/5n cameras.  Not as nice large as the MX or ME or even the LX 
but still biger and bright enough.  I don't think I'd want to use the 
K20D without it.


I don't doubt that the K-8 could have 1.2x magnification built into it's 
viewfinder with little downside, except maybe cost, but much more than 
that and manual focusing or brightness or both would have to be 
compromised.





   



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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Jerry in Arizona
Mt St Helens was a single eruptive event, lasting a few hours at most.  The 
Icelandic eruption has lasted for many days weeks?) spewing enormous amounts of 
particulates into the atmosphere far above Mt St Helens.  Why don't you let the 
pros do their job instead of amateurish jabbing?

From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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WTF?  The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens, there 
was no continent wide ban and no air crashes.  Yes, there were several 
planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but they were in 
the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption occured.  Most 
delays were caused by ripple effects from places actually effected by 
the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very good idea of where the 
problems areas lay.


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Re: PESO: Inside the Summit Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Malcolm.

Dan M

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Malcolm Smith
malcolmsmi...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hi Dan,

 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/inside-the-summit-diner

 As always, Comments, Criticisms, Suggestions, and Abuse are all
 welcomed

 Once more late into this, catching up at last with PDML mail. I wondered
 initially how much variety can be found in the subject, well, everyone is
 very different and the colour schemes both in and out make ideal
 photographic subjects. Looking forward to seeing this develop; I find this
 fascinating both in social history and photographic terms.

 Malcolm


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Re: John Waters on Photography and Voyeurism

2010-05-05 Thread Bruce Walker

CheekyGeek wrote:

Apologies if this has been discussed here before, but I think I got
the link from delicious.com yesterday and am just now getting around
to reading it.
Some interesting observations that others might want to add to...
entitled: PHOTOGRAPHY CHANGES WHO AND WHAT WE CAN STARE AT
http://click.si.edu/Story.aspx?story=690


Good read; thanks, Darren.

My fave lines:

I’m still waiting for a pair of glasses you can wear to see through 
clothes. When I was a kid back in the ‘50s, I used to see ads for them. 
Supposedly you’d put them on, look at a girl, scream “Yow-ee!!!” and 
your eyeballs would pop out.


I want that as a filter, with a 58mm thread please.

-bmw


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Re: Not only for the 645 lovers...

2010-05-05 Thread Bruce Walker

Gianfranco Irlanda wrote:

Hi everybody,

It's been a long, long time since my last message here, hope you didn't miss me 
too much... :)

I came across these press release pictures of the new Fiat Uno, now on sale in 
Brazil.
One of the pictures shows a retention curtain holding (gasp!) a old Pentax 645... 


http://www.autoblog.it/galleria/big/nuova-fiat-uno-01/14
http://www.autoblog.it/post/26820/fiat-uno-dati-e-immagini-ufficiali#continua

Quite interesting, although a strange choice, don't you think?

Ciao,

Gianfranco


That really looks like an invitation to sit on it! :-)

-bmw

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 12:15 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Mt St Helens was a single eruptive event, lasting a few hours at most.  The 
Icelandic eruption has lasted for many days weeks?) spewing enormous amounts of 
particulates into the atmosphere far above Mt St Helens.  Why don't you let the 
pros do their job instead of amateurish jabbing?

From: P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Message-ID:4be18ee0.5030...@gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

   


 

WTF?  The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens, there
was no continent wide ban and no air crashes.  Yes, there were several
planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but they were in
the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption occured.  Most
delays were caused by ripple effects from places actually effected by
the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very good idea of where the
problems areas lay.
   


The ash event lasted several days, with ash accumulations of up to 1/2 
and inch as far away as Colorado.



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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 12:15 PM, Jerry in Arizona wrote:

Mt St Helens was a single eruptive event, lasting a few hours at most.  The 
Icelandic eruption has lasted for many days weeks?) spewing enormous amounts of 
particulates into the atmosphere far above Mt St Helens.  Why don't you let the 
pros do their job instead of amateurish jabbing?
   


What Pros, the one's that are now saying that the European governments 
over reacted?  Costing billions, (US billions not British), of Euros of 
losses and inconvenience to millions of people?   Those Pros?



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WTF?  The US didn't blanket ban air travel after Mount St Helens, there
was no continent wide ban and no air crashes.  Yes, there were several
planes that made emergency landings from engine damage but they were in
the air in the area of the volcano when the eruption occured.  Most
delays were caused by ripple effects from places actually effected by
the plume, and actual air sampling gave a very good idea of where the
problems areas lay.


   



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OT: Giant Sized Image Galleries

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://weburbanist.com/pics/

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OT: April PUG

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Is the PUG still alive?

I notice that submissions are no longer being taken for the April PUG.
 Are there plans to put it online?

Dan

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Re: OT: April PUG

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 1:02 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Is the PUG still alive?

I notice that submissions are no longer being taken for the April PUG.
  Are there plans to put it online?

Dan

   

Scott works slowly, these things take time.

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Re: Peso Back yard deer

2010-05-05 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Michael Beacom mbea...@mac.com wrote:
 Does he eat tulips?

Apparently yes, if he takes a corner to fast

Dave

 Cheers
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 On Apr 30, 2010, at 1:53 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Even though there is construction in town, we live close enough to
 farms and bush areas.

 Deer have popped into our back yard before, but never before the
 garden had been planted.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10960333

 He stood still long enough to get this.

 K10D, Sigma 300 f4 APO

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Re: Something of interest from his Thomishness

2010-05-05 Thread David J Brooks
Interesting read. I only use my VR on my Nikon lenses below 1/250.
Really saves on batteries.

Dave

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 This is eerie.
 http://is.gd/bUqH3
 And safe to read.
 It's off Thom Hogan's Nikon thingie (note spelling please Tanja), but it
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FS: MX, LX

2010-05-05 Thread wendy beard
I know it's not Friday but I'm seldom home at weekends and I wanted to
offer these to the list members before putting them on eBay.

I have one absolutely wonderful condition Chrome MX for sale. It's in
full working order. The shutter speed wheel is aligned correctly, the
battery works and the meter is functional. Even the hot shoe works and
the cover for the X and FP contacts is in place. The battery cover and
winder cover are both present; there are no dings or brassing and only
a few scuffs around the tripod socket. Comes with a M-series 50/2

The LX is in not as good condition as the MX, but still pretty good.
There is brassing around one of the strap lugs. The hot shoe doesn't
appear to work, but the X-synch socket does. I ran a film through it
last week and everything works fine, metering appears to be good. The
only minus to this body is the engraved name J.Goldstein on the back
plate below the winder lever. (However, it's very neatly done). The LX
comes with instruction manual, genuine LX grip and M 50mm/1.4 lens
(superb condition)

Make me an offer if you're interested in any of these.

I was thinking of selling my DA* 50-135/f2.8 but it seems to be listed
on Adorama at almost half what I paid for it (tho' it's out of stock
at the moment) so it looks like I'll hang on to that for another month
or so

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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

2010-05-05 Thread Subash
On Wed, 05 May 2010 08:24:16 +0100
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 
  I think you're looking at their seedings.
 
 Now there's an idea that's germinating.

looks like it got nipped in the bud, doesn't it? :)

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Re: FS: MX, LX

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 5 May 2010 13:38, wendy beard pointyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was thinking of selling my DA* 50-135/f2.8 but it seems to be listed
 on Adorama at almost half what I paid for it (tho' it's out of stock
 at the moment) so it looks like I'll hang on to that for another month
 or so

WHAT!?!?!? It's listed at $1230, and I remember seeing it around $800
a year ago. You paid over $2000 for it  :-o


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Re: FS: MX, LX

2010-05-05 Thread P. J. Alling

On 5/5/2010 1:56 PM, Miserere wrote:

On 5 May 2010 13:38, wendy beardpointyp...@gmail.com  wrote:
   

I was thinking of selling my DA* 50-135/f2.8 but it seems to be listed
on Adorama at almost half what I paid for it (tho' it's out of stock
at the moment) so it looks like I'll hang on to that for another month
or so
 

WHAT!?!?!? It's listed at $1230, and I remember seeing it around $800
a year ago. You paid over $2000 for it  :-o


   --M.
   

She bought it with Canadian money...

(Bill I'm only kidding).

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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Subash wrote:

On Wed, 05 May 2010 08:24:16 +0100
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

 
  I think you're looking at their seedings.
 
 Now there's an idea that's germinating.

looks like it got nipped in the bud, doesn't it? :)

Before it had a chance to take root?

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
 They are carbon fibre, mainly black with Novoflex blue 
 highlights, 3 sections, markings at the two joins to indicate 
 extended (total) length (110 to 145 cm, in 5cm steps). Comes 
 with metal pin at foot, and replacement rubber foot (I made 
 the replacement on mine). Wooden threaded knob on top 
 (standard 1/4 tripod female thread, male screw from stick), 
 with comfortably padded (durable) foam grip, and adjustable 
 webbing strap (some 46cm long) for use as walking stick.
 Made in Germany by Leki. Closed length 665mm, knob ~50mm 
 diameter, removable stiff rubber bump protector at bottom 
 ~53mm diameter. Mass of 290g with rubber foot and bump protector.
 
 I bought mine on spec (speculatively), and am very pleased.
 
 I've used it as a walking stick, traversing some slippery (sand on
 stone) slopes, and it enabled secure passage, providing a 
 third point of contact with the ground. Highly recommended. 
 I'm some 178cm tall, and pretty solid, and at no time did I 
 feel as if it was ever going to fail. I did ensure the two 
 extension joints were firmly screwed at my desired length 
 (different for ascending and descending slopes).
 
 For use as a monopod, it has the standard 1/4 tripod screw 
 exposed by unscrewing the wooden knob. Length to start of 
 screw (closest to the
 ground) is 143cm, centre of viewfinder of Pentax K-7 is 167cm 
 above ground, using walking stick, Basic Ball, Leica ball 
 head, Manfrotto
 RC4 shoe and RC4 plate on base of camera. In other words, 
 sufficiently long for me.

Thanks - I might take on of those on my hike in France in June.

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
[...]
 
 I've used it to plan journeys as far as Russia.  DB is in the 
 process of picking up some UK train franchises.  Today, Europe
 

Sharp intake of breath as Mike gets close to the thing that modern,
liberal-minded, PC non-Clarksons don't mention.

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Re: Low end Canon/Nikon/Pentax blues dance showdown

2010-05-05 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/5/2010 6:08 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Larry,

In my opinion, in these sets (as in many other photos that I see
from dance events), - the two main problems are:
1. composition and
2. choosing what to keep.

A simple example of what I mean in 1.:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca#!/photo.php?pid=3933831id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca
(Just people's backs)

Here is yet another one:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=47009id=1587681869#!/photo.php?pid=821721id=1587681869
It's a poor way to frame a shot.

Let's try to catch as many people in one shot as possible:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e#!/photo.php?pid=5228369id=653299672

These three represent what is typical.

2. can help with all of these problems, but I am guilty on that count
myself. :-)

Sorry for being rather critical here (there are a few good shots in
all 3 sets), - it's just I keep being surprised (and annoyed) why
people don't do simple things that are much more simple (technically/
instrumentally) then shooting in low ISO, etc.


I completely agree with you.  I do actually try to go through and edit 
the photos. I usually try to do a much better job than I did here, but 
I'm swamped for time getting ready for the trip, and wanted to get the 
pictures up on facebook, so I stopped the editing process a pass or so 
early (and was still way short on sleep Sunday night).


I also edit things differently for facebook and for flickr.  On 
facebook, I treat them as snapshots, and they may be the only shot 
someone has of them dancing, or of them dancing at that event. The 
photographic quality of pictures that people will choose for their 
profile picture is often rather apalling, but they aren't looking for a 
great photograph, they're looking for a great shot of themselves.


In cases where I post sets to both fb and flickr, you'll often see a 60 
shot set on fb pared down to half a dozen on flickr.


Pretty much the only reason I posted these here is because it is an 
interesting comparison of three different systems shooting at the same 
somewhat technically challenging event.  It's also not really a fair 
comparison because in this sort of situation the skill of the 
photographer counts for a lot.  I also missed out on a lot of shots 
because sometimes its more fun to dance with a pretty girl than to 
photograph someone else dancing with a pretty girl.


I find it interesting that at the end of the night, we were all shooting 
with our nifty fifties.




Cheers,

Igor


On 5/4/2010 6:42 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


Mine-Pentax:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=207643id=653299672l=7dd07b367e

Scott-Nikon: (corrected link)
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=167122id=746308024l=800a4bd0ca

David-Canon and Panny PS:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tsgeisel/sets/72157623990213540/

With the relatively bright light, I'd say that the K-x and the D70
came out fairly close with the Rebel XSi lagging a bit. Part of that
may have to do with Scott and I shooting at blues events a lot more
frequently and David primarily shooting at Victorian dances, which
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Re: Tamron Adaptall

2010-05-05 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/5/2010 7:15 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

A 200mm f1.8 cost $4500.00 when it was new. The cost of three of those
would replace my entire kit, (and I've got a lot of kit), and then some.


He did say that he bought it from a photographer that was in desperate 
need of money.




On 5/5/2010 12:26 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

As it turns out, the guy on craigslist never replied to any of my
emails about the tammy 300/2.8. However, I got a note on facebook from
a friend who would like to sell his. Or at the very least is willing
to loan it to me to see if I want it. He never uses it since he got a
200/1.8. (85/1.2 200/1.8 it seems that Canon are the people to go to
for glass that is long and fast)

His has a Canon FD mount. I have an Adaptall II PK mount, but if I
interpret some comments correctly there is a PKA mount that'll
(sometimes) transmit info like aperture to the body. Does anyone have
one of these kicking around that they want to sell?




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RE: MX, LX

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
[...]

 appears to be good. The only minus to this body is the 
 engraved name J.Goldstein on the back plate below the winder 
 lever. (However, it's very neatly done). The LX comes with 

I wonder if he was Emmanuel's brother - that would make the camera very
valuable indeed. Ignorance is strength.


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Re: FS: MX, LX

2010-05-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 5, 2010, at 12:38, wendy beard wrote:
 
 I was thinking of selling my DA* 50-135/f2.8 but it seems to be listed
 on Adorama at almost half what I paid for it (tho' it's out of stock
 at the moment) so it looks like I'll hang on to that for another month
 or so
 

$799.95 is HALF what you paid for it?!?!?  

Wow.

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For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Roberts
An online gallery (in HTML and Flash versions!) of the images from the
Dank Haus exhibit:
http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2010/gallery/

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PESO: Tiles

2010-05-05 Thread Charles Robinson
Another shot from my recent visit to SW China.  One of my favorite non-people 
shots, actually.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0566_large.html

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Re: PESO: Tiles

2010-05-05 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/5/2010 11:50 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Another shot from my recent visit to SW China.  One of my favorite non-people 
shots, actually.

http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0566_large.html


Very nice, and I can't think of a way it could have been done any better.




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PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://dinerdan.posterous.com/the-railroad-dining-car-diner

Comments, criticisms, suggestions and abuse are always welcomed.

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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 02:42:57PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
 An online gallery (in HTML and Flash versions!) of the images from the
 Dank Haus exhibit:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2010/gallery/
 

Holy shit!  I don't have the book in my hands yet, but let me say that this 
sample has 
once again impressed me.  The level of accomplishment demonstrated by a bunch of
camera-nerd-web-weenies is incredible.  I almost feel that my little picture 
doesn't belong 
with that stunning group of images...

I've been traveling a lot with my new job and haven't had a lot of time for 
photography or
commenting on PAWs, PESOs, and GESOs but I just wanted to say that I've seen 
some really nice 
stuff coming through and wish i had time to comment.

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Re: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Jack Davis
Attractive, classical diner well composed.

Jack

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 Subject: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/the-railroad-dining-car-diner
 
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Re: Not only for the 645 lovers...

2010-05-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/5/10, Gianfranco Irlanda, discombobulated, unleashed:

It's been a long, long time since my last message here, hope you didn't
miss me too much... :)

You were gone??

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Re: PESO: Tiles

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That it quite a striking image.  It really grabs and holds my
attention.  Well Done.

Dan

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 Another shot from my recent visit to SW China.  One of my favorite non-people 
 shots, actually.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0566_large.html

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/5/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:

As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
trains or planes. :-)

That would be way cool. With bedrooms. And 1950's hostess outfits for
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Re: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Jack.

Dan

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Attractive, classical diner well composed.

 Jack

 --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: PESO: The Railroad Dining Car Diner
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 http://dinerdan.posterous.com/the-railroad-dining-car-diner

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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thank you for posting that.  I received The Book two days ago, and
there are so many great images in it, I really wanted to see which
ones made the cut.

Dan

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Re: vote for your favorite street shooter

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Now we're getting down and dirty.

Dan

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 Subash wrote:

On Wed, 05 May 2010 08:24:16 +0100
Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:


  I think you're looking at their seedings.

 Now there's an idea that's germinating.

looks like it got nipped in the bud, doesn't it? :)

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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
Nice to know which images made it to the gallery.
I think the pictures printed in the book look even better than online.
Nice job all around!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 An online gallery (in HTML and Flash versions!) of the images from the
 Dank Haus exhibit:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2010/gallery/

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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 5 May 2010 15:19, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mark,
 Nice to know which images made it to the gallery.
 I think the pictures printed in the book look even better than online.
 Nice job all around!
 Regards,  Bob S.

And the prints look even better than the book  :-)


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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Miserere
On 5 May 2010 14:42, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 An online gallery (in HTML and Flash versions!) of the images from the
 Dank Haus exhibit:
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/2010/gallery/

Here's my contribution to getting the word out:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/05/04/augenblick-a-photography-exhibit-for-chicago-and-a-book-for-the-world/

I've embedded the streaming channel you set up, Mark, so I don't lose
the link  :-)

Cheers,


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RE: gesoish, an atypical British sports coupe

2010-05-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen
On my way to lunch I saw an interesting car parked at a shop and  
stopped to grab some photos. These cars are fairly rare, and apart  
from this one being at a shop, they are quite atypical of British  
cars. This post is more along the lines of sharing snapshots of a cool  
piece of machinery than showing off pictures, but go ahead and comment  
if you'd like:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623871260415/

Brought to you by the numbers 3, 8 and 3.


I think most people would be more familiar with the Jensen-Healey.

That is sort of an odd duck, because what it looks like is an 
Interceptor convertible with an add-on hardtop installed.


One thing I hadn't known was that Jensen was the sub-contractor Rootes 
(who owned the Sunbeam marque) chose to do the engineering conversions 
installing the Ford 260 V8 engines into Sunbeam Alpines to turn them 
into Tigers.


Or that the Tiger went out of production because Chrysler acquired 
Rootes in 1967 and did not have a small-block V8 that would fit into the 
engine bay, and could not, of course, still source Ford engines for them.


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PESO: Women's Wear

2010-05-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I came across this store window earlier this week, and it struck my fancy:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10979551

Comments, criticisms, suggestions, and abuse are welcome.

Dan

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Re: PESO: Women's Wear

2010-05-05 Thread Bruce Walker

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I came across this store window earlier this week, and it struck my fancy:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10979551

Comments, criticisms, suggestions, and abuse are welcome.

Dan


Dianne Keaton would approve, no doubt. :-)  Well seen, Dan.

-bmw

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
 As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally 
 cool (for me,
 anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like 
 trains or planes. :-)
 
 That would be way cool. With bedrooms. And 1950's hostess 
 outfits for the stewardesses :-)
 

To hell with the stewardesses - I want one!



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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Larry Colen

On 5/5/2010 12:08 PM, Cotty wrote:

On 5/5/10, AlunFoto, discombobulated, unleashed:


As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
trains or planes. :-)


That would be way cool. With bedrooms. And 1950's hostess outfits for
the stewardesses :-)


There's a dirigible (I think it's a dirigible, not a blimp) that flies 
out of Moffett field, though it's mostly for day tours.


I've gotten shots of it, but alas, not from it.  Maybe, one day when 
we're all rich (I.e. not spending all our money on glass) we could do a 
pdml outing in it.


http://www.airshipventures.com/


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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: Andrea Coffey

On 5 May 2010 17:25, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:

 As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
 anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
 trains or planes.  :-) 


Oh yes!

Now _that_ will be _real_ travelling. Even with irregular departures.
Just imagine the view: one step beyond hot air balloon flights -- and
they are a whole lot of fun.


Lufthansa used to, semi-regular ... seems to me it was more like cruise 
ships sort of in thrall to the  tides in the air.


Maybe they will again some day.

Or maybe bring back the old giant Empire flying boats.

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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
 As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally 
 cool (for me,
 anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like 
 trains or planes. :-)
 
 That would be way cool. With bedrooms. And 1950's hostess 
 outfits for the stewardesses :-)

Stewardess to Cotty: Is that a dirigible in your pocket, sir...?




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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Dario Bonazza
Some excellent stuff there. Above all (IMO) is Scott's homage to Haskins' 
Cowboy Kate.


Dario

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Re: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread John Sessoms

From: AlunFoto

Wow, that's impressing. But still, it's a little over 29 hours
straight, with 7 transfers; one of them including different train
stations, and some transfer windows less than half an hour. With due
respect for German punctuality, the probability of missing a departure
is pretty high.



I thought the Germans were famous ... or was it notorious ... for 
getting the trains to run on time?




Flight time between Oslo and London is 1 hour 50 minutes. Add another
hour on each side for checkins, luggage and security, and another hour
on each side for getting from airport to town, and you still have
nearly 24 hours more at your disposal.

It's entirely beyond me how people actually enjoy train rides, but
that's down to preference. If one has the time, one can choose how to
spend it.

As to slow modes of travel, what would have been totally cool (for me,
anyway) was to have a dirigible service with regular departures like
trains or planes.  :-) 


My mom told me of growing up in Detroit; that my grandfather woke all 
the kids up one night to go outside and see the Graf Zeppelin pass 
overhead. That may have been on the Los Angeles to Lakehurst leg of the 
1929 Round-the-World flight.


If so, it apparently passed over the city again in 1933. Possibly of 
interest to the list, on that trip, the Graf Zeppelin flew over the 1933 
Chicago Worlds Fair.


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Re: For those who can't make it to Chicago...

2010-05-05 Thread Ed Keeney
Mark,

Thanks for all the work getting this organized (to you and everyone else)!!

Thanks for getting this online - it's nice to see what will be
represented.  What a great collection of work!

Can't wait to see the book, should be arriving tomorrow.

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Context-sensitive advertising Fail

2010-05-05 Thread Mark Roberts
On eBay just now I purchased a cold weather battery holder for my
Pentax 67. Yay! (I'm planning on adapting it so as to allow the use of
different battery types.)
At the close of the auction eBay brings up my winning bid page with a
whole slew of Related picks. All of them being memory cards.

FAIL.


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RE: Tripods that fit in carry on

2010-05-05 Thread Bob W
 
 My mom told me of growing up in Detroit; that my grandfather woke all 
 the kids up one night to go outside and see the Graf Zeppelin pass 
 overhead. That may have been on the Los Angeles to Lakehurst 
 leg of the 
 1929 Round-the-World flight.
 
 If so, it apparently passed over the city again in 1933. Possibly of 
 interest to the list, on that trip, the Graf Zeppelin flew 
 over the 1933 
 Chicago Worlds Fair.

Zeppelins dropped some bombs on Greenwich in WWI.



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K-x (navy) arrived

2010-05-05 Thread Jeffery Smith
My K-x just rolled in from BH. Very light, familiar controls, and the cheapo 
zoom is not bad for -$150. I'll probably try it with the Tamron 17-35 for a 
while. A bargain of a camera.

Jeffery
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Re: PESO: Tiles

2010-05-05 Thread David J Brooks
Love this one

Dave

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 Another shot from my recent visit to SW China.  One of my favorite non-people 
 shots, actually.

 http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2010/china/content/IMGP0566_large.html

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