OT: The third half
I ran half-marathon #3 today. This was part of the SBS Marathon, the signature running race of my home city. The course mostly follows the Avon River, then does a loop around part of Hagley Park then it's back to the Town Hall to finish. People doing the full marathon go around for a second lap. We had 7 degrees (C) and intermittent sprinkles of rain. I was hoping for it to be sloshing down but I'm a bit strange that way. My time was 1:46:03, almost exactly four minutes faster than the one I ran three weeks ago. I think the improvement was due to two factors: the lack of wind, and leaving my Spinal Tap (like a Camelbak) at home to save weight, opting instead to use the water stations on the course. I have to slow down a little to drink out of a cup but I thought I'd more than make up for it by not having 3lb of extra weight to carry. I'm overdoing my rehydration a bit but I suffered a few effects of dehydration a couple of weeks ago. I think I know what it's like to be 80 now. My legs back are sore and I have to go every half-hour. Just one more race to do three weeks from now in Wellington, then I might lay off the racing for a while and get back to a more regular training schedule. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: The third half
On Jun 5, 2010, at 11:01 PM, David Mann wrote: I'm overdoing my rehydration a bit but I suffered a few effects of dehydration a couple of weeks ago. I hate to break it to you, but three pints of ale doesn't count as rehydration. Congratulations on the half marathon. Every time I try running, I hurt myself. I think I know what it's like to be 80 now. My legs back are sore and I have to go every half-hour. I can empathize. I've got my brown belt exam on Monday, and I've been training pretty intensively for it the past few months. At the seminar at the dojo this morning, my back, legs, and knees all hurt. Plus, we seemed to have skipped spring and went from cold rainy weather a week ago to hot summer weather this week. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sensor native color balance setting?
The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Early 1900s in Colour
John Coyle wrote: Mike appears to be correct in identifying it as a Farman, but there are some significant differences: there are, for example, three wing strut pairs in the Kahn photo against four in the Farman Shorthorn: however, since many of these planes were basically hand-built, I would expect variations to occur as the designers (and the pilots!) gained more experience of practical configurations.The machine gun mounting in the nose is probably a late modification, perhaps made in the field, as there is no such mounting in the Farman illustration. From further research into Caudron models, it is unlikely that it was built by that company, as all their models for which I can find illustrations had puller airscrews rather than pushers. John in Brisbane Try counting individual struts visible below, and on the far side of, the fuselage. ;-) -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: Friday, 4 June 2010 5:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Early 1900s in Colour On 4 June 2010 00:17, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Apart from the propeller being at the front, rather than at the rear in the pusher configuration, this aircraft is very similar to the Caudron GIII: see http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/Ca udron%20G.III.htm the undercarriage is the same double-wheel configuration, as is the twin-boom tail. No idea what the round object on the wing strut is, although there appears to be a connection from it to the engine compartment: perhaps an oil reservoir feeding by gravity? Problematic during aerobatics, but I don't think aircraft of this vintage did much of that! I'm fairly sure now that it's some variation of a Farman Shorthorn. http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/farman_mf-11.php You can see that the tail fin is likely to be one half of a pair. I suspect it has been front-line modified into a bomber and the apparatus on the left side of the nose is some form of bomb-aiming device. Hence the bombs on the ground in front of it. The design of this particular machine does not, to my eye, encourage the throwing of ordnance. Too much stuff for it to hit/catch on before it is clear. I assumed the round thing was a Lewis gun magazine but now I'm not so sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Gun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: On topic of lenses and enablement, for a change
On 6/3/2010 3:03 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Boris, this Pentax lens is an extremely well made tank. I enjoyed one for several years and sold in for a bit over $1,000 USD a couple years ago. I felt it somewhat heavy and sides all this new D glass was out. I bought the DA* 50~135, did some semi serious comparisons with the FA 28~70 f/2.8 and decided to let it go. I'm sure it's pleasing it's current owner somewhere. Jack Thanks, Jack... Hmmm. I tried to find a mechanically decent sample of FA 24-90/3.5-4.5 but failed so far. Ideally, I'd like something like 24-90/4.0, but such a beast does not seem to exist... Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML Does Frank Tomrrow
On 5/6/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I are attending the Robert Frank exhibit at Detroit Institute of the Arts. Meeting at 10 AM at the Farnsworth Ave entrance. Lurkers welcome. Cassino too:-). I'm officially envious. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: studio light brand suggestions [Scanned][Spam score:8%]
Hi Christine, I'm no expert on studio lighting, prefering to work with natural light, but I have to order the lighting for my employers studio. The general consensus here in the Uk is to use Bowens, I've bought Bowens Gemini 250R kits, they're pretty good value, quite comprehensive and reasonably robust. The bulbs have a limited life and are expensive to replace, spares are also expensive: http://www.bowens.co.uk/content/pages/gemini250r.html I've just had to order some more lighting and decided to take a chance on the following: http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/4710/Pro-Line-Apollo-300-Creative-Studio-Lighting-Kit.html Only time will tell if I made a good decision. Best regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila [cagu...@earthlink.net] Sent: 05 June 2010 14:45 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: studio light brand suggestions [Scanned][Spam score:8%] Here's a question for folks shooting in studio conditions: Any particular *brand recommendations* for *continuous tungsten studio lights* to be used for portraiture? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I got to play with a 645D yesterday!
2010/6/6 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I expect Pentax might delay US release until the bugs are worked out, but there's no way they'll ignore the market. Doesn't make sense in any way. IIRC, Ned Bunnell told The Online Photographer that they were still considering the import. Another thing that wouldn't make sense is to just slide this camera silently into the sortiment, without making an event of announcing it. The Nordic distributor is totally silent. :-( Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned]
Out looking for some feathered subjects when I came across this: http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/photo/four-spotted-chaser-17638/large K20D + DA*300/4, C C welcome. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Two pictures, same style
Yesterday I tried to take a flower picture. Normally I only do that when my wife is pointing at one and asks me to take a picture of it, but yesterday I tried all on my own. Later the same day I was downtown and took some pictures of a festival. I asked a small boy if I could take some pictures of him and one of them is linked to here. Same colors as the flower picture and same style. Personally I like the picture of the kid very much, but still not very fond of flower pictures ☺ http://download.heime.org/foto/IMGP.jpg http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6677.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old outbuilding wall
Everything is big over here ;-) I googled the norwegian word, and mesh was the suggestion. The mosquitoes in northern parts of the country are big, but not that big BTW. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/5 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: Very nice Tim. Looking at the wire mesh, you guys seem to have bloody huge insects =) Thanks for sharing Ecke 2010/6/3 Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/06/uthusvegg.html -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two pictures, same style
Both are nice Stig. I tend to prefer the flower pickture because of the odd composition. The other one is IMO a bit to centered. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/6 SV Hovland p...@heime.org: Yesterday I tried to take a flower picture. Normally I only do that when my wife is pointing at one and asks me to take a picture of it, but yesterday I tried all on my own. Later the same day I was downtown and took some pictures of a festival. I asked a small boy if I could take some pictures of him and one of them is linked to here. Same colors as the flower picture and same style. Personally I like the picture of the kid very much, but still not very fond of flower pictures ☺ http://download.heime.org/foto/IMGP.jpg http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6677.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? 42 D -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAF
Pretty shot. I like the use of the tree branches to frame it Dave On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Yet Another Falls. Jack has inspired me to go back and look at my images of Yosemite. Biggest problem is that they are negatives from my Pentax 67ii and I haven't scanned everything. Have to go find the proofs. Anyway, here is one. Pentax 67ii, 90/2.8, Tripod http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0028-05.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Two pictures, same style
Thanks. Yes, it is perhaps too much centered. I was concerned about this myself and made it a little bit tilted to compensate for this. Stig Vidar Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 12:29 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Two pictures, same style Both are nice Stig. I tend to prefer the flower pickture because of the odd composition. The other one is IMO a bit to centered. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/6 SV Hovland p...@heime.org: Yesterday I tried to take a flower picture. Normally I only do that when my wife is pointing at one and asks me to take a picture of it, but yesterday I tried all on my own. Later the same day I was downtown and took some pictures of a festival. I asked a small boy if I could take some pictures of him and one of them is linked to here. Same colors as the flower picture and same style. Personally I like the picture of the kid very much, but still not very fond of flower pictures ☺ http://download.heime.org/foto/IMGP.jpg http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6677.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I got to play with a 645D yesterday!
On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:20 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/6 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I expect Pentax might delay US release until the bugs are worked out, but there's no way they'll ignore the market. Doesn't make sense in any way. IIRC, Ned Bunnell told The Online Photographer that they were still considering the import. Another thing that wouldn't make sense is to just slide this camera silently into the sortiment, without making an event of announcing it. The Nordic distributor is totally silent. :-( Jostein Very odd. It's as though they don't really want to sell the camera. Perhaps production capability is minimal. If it's not distributed worldwide, we may still see full frame eventually. But that's probably a long ways off, if at all. Paul -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I got to play with a 645D yesterday!
The current Norwegian distributor are generally silent about Pentax. Their website shows the camera bodies, but absolutely nothing online about lenses. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/6 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: On Jun 6, 2010, at 4:20 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/6 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: I expect Pentax might delay US release until the bugs are worked out, but there's no way they'll ignore the market. Doesn't make sense in any way. IIRC, Ned Bunnell told The Online Photographer that they were still considering the import. Another thing that wouldn't make sense is to just slide this camera silently into the sortiment, without making an event of announcing it. The Nordic distributor is totally silent. :-( Jostein Very odd. It's as though they don't really want to sell the camera. Perhaps production capability is minimal. If it's not distributed worldwide, we may still see full frame eventually. But that's probably a long ways off, if at all. Paul -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned]
Very nice catch, John! One of the best such for some time. Jack --- On Sun, 6/6/10, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: From: John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk Subject: PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned] To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 1:53 AM Out looking for some feathered subjects when I came across this: http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/photo/four-spotted-chaser-17638/large K20D + DA*300/4, C C welcome. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two pictures, same style
Creative angle on both adds considerable interest. Good detail! Jack --- On Sun, 6/6/10, SV Hovland p...@heime.org wrote: From: SV Hovland p...@heime.org Subject: Two pictures, same style To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 2:04 AM Yesterday I tried to take a flower picture. Normally I only do that when my wife is pointing at one and asks me to take a picture of it, but yesterday I tried all on my own. Later the same day I was downtown and took some pictures of a festival. I asked a small boy if I could take some pictures of him and one of them is linked to here. Same colors as the flower picture and same style. Personally I like the picture of the kid very much, but still not very fond of flower pictures ☺ http://download.heime.org/foto/IMGP.jpg http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6677.jpg Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
2010/6/6 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? mu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
Larry, I've always thought that the native colour balance was for daylight. Everything else is measured in terms of what colour of light is missing. It's also the most used colour balance (with flash coming a close second and it's not that different). Leon. On 6 June 2010 16:50, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
I don't see how color balance would make the JPEG and RAW match. The presets in the camera are what modify the JPEG file; sharpness, saturation, etc. If you set all the in-camera controls to neutral, they will be close enough most of the time. Where you will see a difference is at the far right side of the histogram where highlights clip. Because the JPEG only has 256 levels, and RAW has 4096, the JPEG will show clipping far sooner than RAW will. If you really wanted an accurate histogram (there's not much point of matching JPEG to RAW histograms when they have different amounts of data), you'd need to generate the histogram off the RAW data instead of using the JPEG preview. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PUGs are up
Ahah -- the anti mike johnson theme! got it ann Bruce Walker wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: Brian what is the theme? even if I cant up load yet I can browse around for something that would fit :) ann Ann, it's Flora and Fauna. I managed to upload some Flora. Cheers! -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
On 6/6/2010 2:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not
of the raw sensor.
It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance,
then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match.
Anybody know what that setting would be?
--
Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
I think if you dial back all the custom image settings to their minimum
the histogram will most closely, (but still not perfectly), reflect the
raw data. The image on the playback display will be a bit dull at that
point since those settings are used to produce the embedded jpeg.
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Re: PUGs are up
Only if it's cat's and pretty flowers.. We need to send him a link...
On 6/6/2010 10:44 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Ahah -- the anti mike johnson theme!
got it
ann
Bruce Walker wrote:
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Brian what is the theme?
even if I cant up load yet I can browse around for something that
would fit :)
ann
Ann, it's Flora and Fauna. I managed to upload some Flora.
Cheers!
-bmw
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Re: PUGs are up
How about a Cats eating Flowers theme for 2011?
2010/6/6 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
Only if it's cat's and pretty flowers.. We need to send him a link...
On 6/6/2010 10:44 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Ahah -- the anti mike johnson theme!
got it
ann
Bruce Walker wrote:
Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Brian what is the theme?
even if I cant up load yet I can browse around for something that would
fit :)
ann
Ann, it's Flora and Fauna. I managed to upload some Flora.
Cheers!
-bmw
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Re: Detroit PDML Does Frank Tomrrow
hehe -- when I read the subject line - I thought they were going on a Theraulterian photo shoot :-) ann Boris Liberman wrote: On 6/6/2010 4:26 AM, paul stenquist wrote: Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I are attending the Robert Frank exhibit at Detroit Institute of the Arts. Meeting at 10 AM at the Farnsworth Ave entrance. Lurkers welcome. Cassino too:-). Paul Wrong Frank. You got me confused. I thought Frank of PDML was joinin' you for a friendly meetin'... Too bad. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Rooms for Rent
I've never shown a photo of this place during the day before: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/rooms-for-rent.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Leica CL/f2.0 40mm Summicron C, TriX. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Barn in Ålfoten
Thanks Brian. You are right, it is tilted. I overlooked that. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/6/5 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm: On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:23 +0200, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/2010/06/lave-i-alfoten.html That's an interesting treatment of a very picturesque subject. You've certainly succeeded in giving it a 'vintage' feel. It seems to be tilted to the right slightly - perhaps that's the way it was. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Double Daddio extravaganza
- Original Message From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sat, June 5, 2010 3:43:17 PM Subject: GESO - Double Daddio extravaganza My friends Lo and Pete played a hilarity-filled folk-blues-cabaret set last night with Christa Hughes (of Machine Gun Fellatio fame) with her daddio, Dick. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/10/10_06/10_06_daddio/index.htm Highlight of the evening, Dick and Pete playing the encore as The Dick Heads. She's playing a Sears Silvertone guitar made by Danelectro in the 60's. It was one of the worst electric guitars ever made. Would never tune, probably even when brand new. The body is made of masonite and had an 18 fret short scale neck. They were sold out of the Sear catalog along with a case that had a small tube amp built into it and all for $67 and change! Lots of famous folks play them mostly for their shabby-chic quality. You can get some nice tone out of them with the Danelectro Lipstick Pickup but after playing a couple of these (and owning one in the late 80's) I can tell you they're truly awful. -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Rooms for Rent
as you no doubt know, the juxtaposition of sign, people, sign makes this :-) nice one, Knarf! ann (who remembers strolling by that place with you 6 years ago ) frank theriault wrote: I've never shown a photo of this place during the day before: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/rooms-for-rent.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Leica CL/f2.0 40mm Summicron C, TriX. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Rooms for Rent
Terrific! One for the archives, Frank. Jack --- On Sun, 6/6/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Rooms for Rent To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 7:55 AM I've never shown a photo of this place during the day before: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/06/rooms-for-rent.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Leica CL/f2.0 40mm Summicron C, TriX. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)
Hi! Suppose I've a LR catalog A. Now, it is very big and I want to take part of it out and make a separate catalog (suppose it is all my family album pictures for sake of example). So I make catalog B that contains a subset of pictures from catalog A. I then go and remove from A all the pictures that are in B. Now, is there a way in which I can say to LightRoom something like - here is the (soft link) location from which you should consult catalog B and have all this knowledge displayed somehow when I open catalog A? Effectively I want to divide my pictures to sub-catalogs but I want to have a single point of entry to this whole structure. Any thoughts? -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I got to play with a 645D yesterday!
-- From: paul stenquist Subject: Re: I got to play with a 645D yesterday! Very odd. It's as though they don't really want to sell the camera. Perhaps production capability is minimal. If it's not distributed worldwide, we may still see full frame eventually. But that's probably a long ways off, if at all. The world is a pretty small place now. Anyone that wants one will be able to get it, whether it's officially sold or not. This is going to be a very small market camera. A guy I vaguely know who lives a couple of hours from here has been quietly buying 645 lenses for fairly cheap ever since the P645D was announced. He's fairly excited about this camera. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Sensor native color balance setting?
Who cares? With my istDS,I quickly discovered the camera's LCD is of very high contrast such that if you shoot and adjust for a good middle exposure on the LCD, the RAW itself will be even better exposed to make custom JPEGS later from the RAW files adjusted by the test exposure LCD images. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor native color balance setting? I don't see how color balance would make the JPEG and RAW match. The presets in the camera are what modify the JPEG file; sharpness, saturation, etc. If you set all the in-camera controls to neutral, they will be close enough most of the time. Where you will see a difference is at the far right side of the histogram where highlights clip. Because the JPEG only has 256 levels, and RAW has 4096, the JPEG will show clipping far sooner than RAW will. If you really wanted an accurate histogram (there's not much point of matching JPEG to RAW histograms when they have different amounts of data), you'd need to generate the histogram off the RAW data instead of using the JPEG preview. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
Oh, I forgot to say, Chris also handed over The Book. Thanks to everyone who signed it for me - I really appreciate it. I have only skimmed it so far and already I have to buy another thesaurus with more superlatives in... I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:03 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Who cares? With my istDS,I quickly discovered the camera's LCD is of very high contrast such that if you shoot and adjust for a good middle exposure on the LCD, the RAW itself will be even better exposed to make custom JPEGS later from the RAW files adjusted by the test exposure LCD images. A couple of the bars that I've been photographing bands in have very wonky color balance. So far out that lightroom can't correct because it only goes to a color temp of 2000K. I'm trying to set the exposure so that I get the very most info onto the sensor, without clipping. If I expose for red, then blue and green are totally lost, so I need to push red as hard as I can, so that I don't lose blue and green. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor native color balance setting? I don't see how color balance would make the JPEG and RAW match. The presets in the camera are what modify the JPEG file; sharpness, saturation, etc. If you set all the in-camera controls to neutral, they will be close enough most of the time. I need to know how each channel is being exposed. If I use the custom color balance, the histograms come out a lot more balanced, even if the raw data isn't. Where you will see a difference is at the far right side of the histogram where highlights clip. Because the JPEG only has 256 levels, and RAW has 4096, the JPEG will show clipping far sooner than RAW will. because there are 16 values between where the jpeg clips and where the raw clips? Assuming that since the raw space is 16 times the size of the jpeg space, that each jpeg value represents 16 raw values. If you really wanted an accurate histogram (there's not much point of matching JPEG to RAW histograms when they have different amounts of data), you'd need to generate the histogram off the RAW data instead of using the JPEG preview. That is a feature that I've been wanting ever since I started shooting with a DSLR. I use the histogram as my exposure meter, and I want it to reflect what I'm actually exposing. Pentax seems to assume that people only ever use their cameras in automatic exposure mode, shooting directly to jpegs. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: studio light brand suggestions [Scanned][Spam score:8%]
For continuous light, I tend to buy clamp lights from the hardware store. Relatively inexpensive, easy to replace and almost infinitely versatile in their placement. I have been extremely impressed with the service at Paul C Buff / alienbee. When a bulb went out on one of my white lightnings, the replacement bulb was something like $10 or $20. When one of my 20+ year old white lightnings went out, and they couldn't repair it, they let me buy a current model for half of list price. On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:13 AM, John Whittingham wrote: Hi Christine, I'm no expert on studio lighting, prefering to work with natural light, but I have to order the lighting for my employers studio. The general consensus here in the Uk is to use Bowens, I've bought Bowens Gemini 250R kits, they're pretty good value, quite comprehensive and reasonably robust. The bulbs have a limited life and are expensive to replace, spares are also expensive: http://www.bowens.co.uk/content/pages/gemini250r.html I've just had to order some more lighting and decided to take a chance on the following: http://www.srsmicrosystems.co.uk/4710/Pro-Line-Apollo-300-Creative-Studio-Lighting-Kit.html Only time will tell if I made a good decision. Best regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Christine Aguila [cagu...@earthlink.net] Sent: 05 June 2010 14:45 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: studio light brand suggestions [Scanned][Spam score:8%] Here's a question for folks shooting in studio conditions: Any particular *brand recommendations* for *continuous tungsten studio lights* to be used for portraiture? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)
Hi! Suppose I've a LR catalog A. Now, it is very big and I want to take part of it out and make a separate catalog (suppose it is all my family album pictures for sake of example). So I make catalog B that contains a subset of pictures from catalog A. I then go and remove from A all the pictures that are in B. Now, is there a way in which I can say to LightRoom something like - here is the (soft link) location from which you should consult catalog B and have all this knowledge displayed somehow when I open catalog A? Effectively I want to divide my pictures to sub-catalogs but I want to have a single point of entry to this whole structure. Any thoughts? I don't think you'll be able to have both catalogues open at the same time in the same instance of LR. In my opinion it's not a good idea to use several catalogues. I have just consolidated several into one because it was getting out of hand trying to track what was there. I can't see the benefit of having 2 catalogues. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two pictures, same style
On Jun 6, 2010, at 2:04 AM, SV Hovland wrote: Yesterday I tried to take a flower picture. Normally I only do that when my wife is pointing at one and asks me to take a picture of it, but yesterday I tried all on my own. Later the same day I was downtown and took some pictures of a festival. I asked a small boy if I could take some pictures of him and one of them is linked to here. Same colors as the flower picture and same style. Personally I like the picture of the kid very much, but still not very fond of flower pictures ☺ http://download.heime.org/foto/IMGP.jpg http://album.heime.org/album/sandnesfotoklubb/imgp6677.jpg They make a great pair of shots, where the two together are stronger than either one alone. Flower shots are a real challenge, not because it's difficult to get something nice, but because it's so easy it's very tough to get one that hasn't been done to death. That being said, I think you did a great job on the flower shot. It's a different angle (though IIRC one that Scott Kelby recommends) and the color contrast between the flower and the sky is nice, as is the composition. Stig Vidar Hovland -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.
Bob just beat me to it - but I managed to get a couple of Colossus. So there. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/ An excellent day out and a challenge to get some different pictures of the cows which, by popular demand, we had to do. I went for the low angle approach to attempt to avoid the cliché. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.
Bob just beat me to it - but I managed to get a couple of Colossus. So there. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/ An excellent day out and a challenge to get some different pictures of the cows which, by popular demand, we had to do. I went for the low angle approach to attempt to avoid the cliché. Chris Excellent gallery! I especially like the first picture of the cows - it has a John Ford magnificence. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.
Nice sets, both of you. I'd love to go to Bletchley park myself one of these days. It turns out that this is my second exposure to the concrete cows. The first one was in my friend Charlie's book The Atrocity Archives, where they play a very minor part, and sure enough, they're the same cows mentioned in The concrete jungle. By the way, I highly recommend not only the Atrocity Archives, but his whole Bob Howard/laundryverse series. It's hard to explain, but it's sort of like modern computer geek meets Cthulu. On Jun 6, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: Bob just beat me to it - but I managed to get a couple of Colossus. So there. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/ An excellent day out and a challenge to get some different pictures of the cows which, by popular demand, we had to do. I went for the low angle approach to attempt to avoid the cliché. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned] [Spam score:8%]
Thanks Jack, much appreciated. Best regards, John From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis [jdavi...@yahoo.com] Sent: 06 June 2010 12:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned] [Spam score:8%] Very nice catch, John! One of the best such for some time. Jack --- On Sun, 6/6/10, John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk wrote: From: John Whittingham jo...@carmel.ac.uk Subject: PESO: Four Spotted Chaser [Scanned] To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 1:53 AM Out looking for some feathered subjects when I came across this: http://www.pentaxuser.co.uk/photo/four-spotted-chaser-17638/large K20D + DA*300/4, C C welcome. Regards, John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
Don't try for accurate colors in a bar setting. Just set a custom WB off a sheet of white paper with the light. If they have mixed light sources, you are not going to be able to balance for them all anyway. If you hitting a limit at 2000K, you are deep into the red end of the lighting spectrum, and you will probably have problems with the light looking white without shifting the other colors. The only time that I get to anywhere near 2000K is when I'm shooting IR, and the colors will never look right. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:03 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Who cares? With my istDS,I quickly discovered the camera's LCD is of very high contrast such that if you shoot and adjust for a good middle exposure on the LCD, the RAW itself will be even better exposed to make custom JPEGS later from the RAW files adjusted by the test exposure LCD images. A couple of the bars that I've been photographing bands in have very wonky color balance. So far out that lightroom can't correct because it only goes to a color temp of 2000K. I'm trying to set the exposure so that I get the very most info onto the sensor, without clipping. If I expose for red, then blue and green are totally lost, so I need to push red as hard as I can, so that I don't lose blue and green. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor native color balance setting? I don't see how color balance would make the JPEG and RAW match. The presets in the camera are what modify the JPEG file; sharpness, saturation, etc. If you set all the in-camera controls to neutral, they will be close enough most of the time. I need to know how each channel is being exposed. If I use the custom color balance, the histograms come out a lot more balanced, even if the raw data isn't. Where you will see a difference is at the far right side of the histogram where highlights clip. Because the JPEG only has 256 levels, and RAW has 4096, the JPEG will show clipping far sooner than RAW will. because there are 16 values between where the jpeg clips and where the raw clips? Assuming that since the raw space is 16 times the size of the jpeg space, that each jpeg value represents 16 raw values. If you really wanted an accurate histogram (there's not much point of matching JPEG to RAW histograms when they have different amounts of data), you'd need to generate the histogram off the RAW data instead of using the JPEG preview. That is a feature that I've been wanting ever since I started shooting with a DSLR. I use the histogram as my exposure meter, and I want it to reflect what I'm actually exposing. Pentax seems to assume that people only ever use their cameras in automatic exposure mode, shooting directly to jpegs. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
I liked these quite a bit -- it _is_ interesting Wonder if they ever used the site for any episodes of Foyle's War (which I love love love) Ann Bob W wrote: I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
On 6/6/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Sorry I couldn't make it guys. Busy slaving over a very hot Mac all weekend editing video to go in iPhone Apps! Nice to see the pics - was the U-boat still in the car park? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.
On 6/6/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: Bob just beat me to it - but I managed to get a couple of Colossus. So there. http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/ An excellent day out and a challenge to get some different pictures of the cows which, by popular demand, we had to do. I went for the low angle approach to attempt to avoid the cliché. Look at the size of them udders!! http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/slides/_IGP3393.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Card reader question
On 2010-06-05 10:03, eckinator wrote: a good card reader is a lot faster in my experience That's why I use a card reader ... several times faster transfer rates. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
I don't know about Foyle's War, but they did have some Bombes there which were used as props for the film Enigma from Robert Harris's novel. Bob I liked these quite a bit -- it _is_ interesting Wonder if they ever used the site for any episodes of Foyle's War (which I love love love) Ann [...] http://www.web-options.com/MK/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
Hi Larry, This discussion might be of some use -it's based on the K10D but at least describes the method to get -what I understand- is an answer to your question: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22957362page=1 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
[...] Sorry I couldn't make it guys. Busy slaving over a very hot Mac all weekend editing video to go in iPhone Apps! Nice to see the pics - was the U-boat still in the car park? we missed you! and Mike - it would be good to get together sometime. Chris and I discussed the possibility of meeting at the Manchester Museum of Industry that Mike and I visited earlier in the year, where there is quite a bit of pre-Mac/Windows computer stuff. The U-boat seems to have moved across the road and is now nestling next to one of the huts - probably sneaking up on it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO - Bob, Colossus, concrete and wood.
[...] An excellent day out and a challenge to get some different pictures of the cows which, by popular demand, we had to do. I went for the low angle approach to attempt to avoid the cliché. Look at the size of them udders!! http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/CowsBP/slides/_IGP3393.html yes - I was looking for anudder point of view... Shot on Tri-X so you'll have to wait for the results. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
Bob W wrote: I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Bob Good stuff Bob. I can't wait to see the BWs. It was a privilege to have a go with the M3 - a real classic. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I had a good time at the Detroit Institute of Art. The Robert Frank exhibit consisted of his shots of Detroit, many of which are not in his book, The Americans. Some of the images are superb, with plenty of storytelling and nice rendering. A few are borderline in regard to the rendering and exposures. Not everything that's out of focus and poorly exposed is art:-). But overall, the work is interesting and revealing. That was good. Then we went to lunch at Traffic Jam and Snug, which is one of the few places near the museum that's open on Sunday. Good as always. We all refrained from sampling their excellent home brews since it was just barely noon. Left for home at about 1PM. Could have taken Woodward all the way as I usually due, but we had some serious flooding, and I was afraid some of the underpasses might be closed. So I took the Interstate. I was motoring along in the left lane at about 80, which is normal for Detroit, when the guy in front of me swerved hard to the left. Right there about two car lengths ahead was what appeared to be a tire in the land. Since I was driving my Jeep, I figured that if I did a slalom move to avoid it, I'd end up on my head with the greasy side showing. So I moved over as far as I could without doing a violent move, and I hit the tire. Turned out it was a tire and wheel. Blew out both right side tires, but managed to get things under control and pulled off to the shoulder on the left side of the lane. No way I could make it to the right shoulder through heavy traffic. Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Anyway, I'm home now, enjoying an adult beverage. Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW21 - Fell in a well
Another accidental picture http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, DA*55mm, 1/60, f/2.8, ISO100 The previous PAWs are here: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/page7.html and four new pictures here: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page8/page8.html DagT -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
[...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - YAF
Very nice. The blue sky really sets of the scene, and the composition is perfect. Dan On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Yet Another Falls. Jack has inspired me to go back and look at my images of Yosemite. Biggest problem is that they are negatives from my Pentax 67ii and I haven't scanned everything. Have to go find the proofs. Anyway, here is one. Pentax 67ii, 90/2.8, Tripod http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0028-05.htm -- Best regards, Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
Bob W wrote: I spent the better part of the today with Chris at Bletchley Park, exploring the code-breaking exhibitions. It's a great day out for anyone interesting in the history of computing or WWII, and highly recommended, although Bletchely and the museum of computing are scandalously under-funded, so it all looks a bit shabby. You might find this a bit dull if you're not interested in the subject, but I took several of them to show my mother, who worked in sigint after the war on this sort of equipment. http://www.web-options.com/MK/ Unfortunately I forgot to take a picture of Colossus, which was working away at decrypting Hermann Goering's shopping list or something, but it's a fascinating machine. Go there if you can. But on a Saturday or a Thursday when you can actually get into the part of the museum where they have the type of machines I used to program... There are some cows too. Never thought I would get to see Alan Turing's helmet. Not in this world, anyway. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
On 6/6/10, paul stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Quite an adventure, glad to see you're safe and still a virgin :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
Thanks a bunch. It seems as if the short answer is to try the K5000 setting and that should get it pretty close. If I were better at measurbating, I could probably optimize a little closer. On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Fernando wrote: Hi Larry, This discussion might be of some use -it's based on the K10D but at least describes the method to get -what I understand- is an answer to your question: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=22957362page=1 On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sensor native color balance setting?
On Jun 6, 2010, at 1:13 PM, David Parsons wrote: Don't try for accurate colors in a bar setting. Just set a custom WB off a sheet of white paper with the light. If they have mixed light sources, you are not going to be able to balance for them all anyway. Exactly. If you hitting a limit at 2000K, you are deep into the red end of the lighting spectrum, and you will probably have problems with the light looking white without shifting the other colors. The only time that I get to anywhere near 2000K is when I'm shooting IR, and the colors will never look right. This is true. That's one reason I tend to convert to black and white. But I'd still like to have the best image to start with before converting. That's one thing that I should have mentioned, if I blew out the red channel, I'd just use the blue and green for the BW conversion. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 10:03 AM, J.C. O'Connell wrote: Who cares? With my istDS,I quickly discovered the camera's LCD is of very high contrast such that if you shoot and adjust for a good middle exposure on the LCD, the RAW itself will be even better exposed to make custom JPEGS later from the RAW files adjusted by the test exposure LCD images. A couple of the bars that I've been photographing bands in have very wonky color balance. So far out that lightroom can't correct because it only goes to a color temp of 2000K. I'm trying to set the exposure so that I get the very most info onto the sensor, without clipping. If I expose for red, then blue and green are totally lost, so I need to push red as hard as I can, so that I don't lose blue and green. -- J.C. O'Connell (mailto:hifis...@gate.net) Join the CD PLAYER DISC Discussions : http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdplayers/ http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/cdsound/ -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of David Parsons Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 10:04 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Sensor native color balance setting? I don't see how color balance would make the JPEG and RAW match. The presets in the camera are what modify the JPEG file; sharpness, saturation, etc. If you set all the in-camera controls to neutral, they will be close enough most of the time. I need to know how each channel is being exposed. If I use the custom color balance, the histograms come out a lot more balanced, even if the raw data isn't. Where you will see a difference is at the far right side of the histogram where highlights clip. Because the JPEG only has 256 levels, and RAW has 4096, the JPEG will show clipping far sooner than RAW will. because there are 16 values between where the jpeg clips and where the raw clips? Assuming that since the raw space is 16 times the size of the jpeg space, that each jpeg value represents 16 raw values. If you really wanted an accurate histogram (there's not much point of matching JPEG to RAW histograms when they have different amounts of data), you'd need to generate the histogram off the RAW data instead of using the JPEG preview. That is a feature that I've been wanting ever since I started shooting with a DSLR. I use the histogram as my exposure meter, and I want it to reflect what I'm actually exposing. Pentax seems to assume that people only ever use their cameras in automatic exposure mode, shooting directly to jpegs. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The problem with the histogram is that it shows the exposure of the jpeg, not of the raw sensor. It seems to me that if you set the camera to the sensor's raw color balance, then the jpeg and the raw file histograms would match. Anybody know what that setting would be? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
RE: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
paul Stenquist wrote: Anyway, I'm home now, enjoying an adult beverage. Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Paul Good to hear that you got home safely Paul. Sounds pretty traumatic to me. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
paul stenquist wrote: Not everything that's out of focus and poorly exposed is art Speck! Sorry to hear about the adventure on the return trip, though. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
First GFM report
...without photos. I'm back at my friends' cabin about 50 miles from GFM. Just catching my breath before the drive home tomorrow. The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. I arrived at the mountain Thursday evening and was able to spend almost an hour socializing with Doug Brewer, Don Nelson and a couple of the other team members before heading out onto the trail. I had the best weather I've ever had for one of my overnight bivouacs in the back country. Given the lateness of the hour I only hiked in about a mile and a quarter, which is plenty when carrying tent, sleeping bag, food , water and camera gear (carbon fiber tripods rule!) and I settled on the Attic Window camp site as my spot for the night. Got a few so-so evening/sunset shots and then settled down for the night. We had a bit of rain during the night but nothing major. Sunrise kept promising great things and then backing out at the last moment: As soon as the light and clouds in the distance started to get good the mountain itself get enveloped in a cloud and I couldn't see anything. This happened over and over and I was only able to get a few decent photos before I had to hike back to my responsibilities for the weekend. Friday was mostly preparation for the event, which started in the evening at the nature museum on the mountain. Doug and I introduced the photo contest and there was one speaker who did a presentation. On Saturday morning I let a photo walk on the Profile Trail, a vastly easier venue than my usual high trail assault on Attic Window Peak. Scott Loveless and Matt Maessen joined in, along with a handful of other folks from the workshop. I think we got some good shots from the outing (I'll let you know how I did soon). Saturday afternoon I spent polishing my presentation and trying to sell my book (http://www.robertstech.com/books.htm#blue). Doug and I got a head start on the photo contest judging, making a first pass through the submitted photos. Then I went over my plans for my presentation talk. I was the second presenter for the evening and the talk seemed to go over very well (I sold a lot more books Sunday after people had heard my talk and seen my photos). Sunday morning was the usual blur of activity as Doug and I finished judging the photo contest and presented the dishonorable mentions and the actual awards. Lots of HDR jokes and bad puns ensued and a jolly time was had by all. I sold a lot more books ($35.00, signed by the author; $45.00 unsigned...) It's amazing - the whole weekend requires an extraordinary amount of work and seems to just grind by as it's happening, but then it's over and you wonder how the time went by so quickly. Already looking forward to next year. Photos to follow in a few days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Old outbuilding wall
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 01:29:51AM +0200, Tim Øsleby scripsit: I think the knife is just a leaf caught by the mesh. Ah well. Sorry to let you down Graydon. Not knowing what to think stemmed from not knowing what I was looking at. This is very likely due to a wetware deficiency on my part. -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First GFM report
On 6/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. Stef and I reminisced about last year's trip by looking through some pics and video on Saturday evening after dinner on the patio. We vowed to try and make it next year, and by golly She Who Must Be Obeyed even wants to come along to see what all the fuss is about. That's a tall order at this stage but hey if you aim too low. Looking forward to some pics and reports :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
Bob W wrote: [...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... Nasty, but did you get any pictures? sounds painful indeed... especially to the wallet ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bob W wrote: [...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... Nasty, but did you get any pictures? sounds painful indeed... especially to the wallet I brought my Leica, in respect to Mr. Frank of course. So I might have pics. I did shoot my car tilting toward the fast land on the shoulder with other cars whizzing by. I believe I also have a shot of Ken and Bill in the Diego Rivera room. Of course its film, so one never knows. Especially since it's a roll of Portra 160 that expired in 2004. But it's been in the freezer, so it's probably okay. Bill brought his new M7 as well. (We did a comparison: to no one's surprise, the iiif RD and M7 differ greatly.:-) In any case, Bill snapped a few pics as well. Nice camera, BTW. He has a Zeiss 35/2 and a Summicron 50/2. Fun stuff. (I brought my Summicron 50/2.5 Collapsible and Summaron 35/3.5. ). So we had half a century of 'crons on hand. All those on hand outdated the lenses by a considerable amount. Paul ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First GFM report
Sounds like a good time. Looking forward to your pics. Paul On Jun 6, 2010, at 6:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ...without photos. I'm back at my friends' cabin about 50 miles from GFM. Just catching my breath before the drive home tomorrow. The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. I arrived at the mountain Thursday evening and was able to spend almost an hour socializing with Doug Brewer, Don Nelson and a couple of the other team members before heading out onto the trail. I had the best weather I've ever had for one of my overnight bivouacs in the back country. Given the lateness of the hour I only hiked in about a mile and a quarter, which is plenty when carrying tent, sleeping bag, food , water and camera gear (carbon fiber tripods rule!) and I settled on the Attic Window camp site as my spot for the night. Got a few so-so evening/sunset shots and then settled down for the night. We had a bit of rain during the night but nothing major. Sunrise kept promising great things and then backing out at the last moment: As soon as the light and clouds in the distance started to get good the mountain itself get enveloped in a cloud and I couldn't see anything. This happened over and over and I was only able to get a few decent photos before I had to hike back to my responsibilities for the weekend. Friday was mostly preparation for the event, which started in the evening at the nature museum on the mountain. Doug and I introduced the photo contest and there was one speaker who did a presentation. On Saturday morning I let a photo walk on the Profile Trail, a vastly easier venue than my usual high trail assault on Attic Window Peak. Scott Loveless and Matt Maessen joined in, along with a handful of other folks from the workshop. I think we got some good shots from the outing (I'll let you know how I did soon). Saturday afternoon I spent polishing my presentation and trying to sell my book (http://www.robertstech.com/books.htm#blue). Doug and I got a head start on the photo contest judging, making a first pass through the submitted photos. Then I went over my plans for my presentation talk. I was the second presenter for the evening and the talk seemed to go over very well (I sold a lot more books Sunday after people had heard my talk and seen my photos). Sunday morning was the usual blur of activity as Doug and I finished judging the photo contest and presented the dishonorable mentions and the actual awards. Lots of HDR jokes and bad puns ensued and a jolly time was had by all. I sold a lot more books ($35.00, signed by the author; $45.00 unsigned...) It's amazing - the whole weekend requires an extraordinary amount of work and seems to just grind by as it's happening, but then it's over and you wonder how the time went by so quickly. Already looking forward to next year. Photos to follow in a few days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
Ouch, Paul!! I'm glad it wasn't worse, and that it was daylight. Junk in the roadway - also normal for Detroit. Fun day otherwise, thanks for bringing the Leica. They should be reopening the standing photography exhibit in the fall, no idea yet what they have planned. Maybe we can do it again, this time in your new Bradley Fighting Vehicle... Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I had a good time at the Detroit Institute of Art. The Robert Frank exhibit consisted of his shots of Detroit, many of which are not in his book, The Americans. Some of the images are superb, with plenty of storytelling and nice rendering. A few are borderline in regard to the rendering and exposures. Not everything that's out of focus and poorly exposed is art:-). But overall, the work is interesting and revealing. That was good. Then we went to lunch at Traffic Jam and Snug, which is one of the few places near the museum that's open on Sunday. Good as always. We all refrained from sampling their excellent home brews since it was just barely noon. Left for home at about 1PM. Could have taken Woodward all the way as I usually due, but we had some serious flooding, and I was afraid some of the underpasses might be closed. So I took the Interstate. I was motoring along in the left lane at about 80, which is normal for Detroit, when the guy in front of me swerved hard to the left. Right there about two car lengths ahead was what appeared to be a tire in the land. Since I was driving my Jeep, I figured that if I did a slalom move to avoid it, I'd end up on my head with the greasy side showing. So I moved over as far as I could without doing a violent move, and I hit the tire. Turned out it was a tire and wheel. Blew out both right side tires, but managed to get things under control and pulled off to the shoulder on the left side of the lane. No way I could make it to the right shoulder through heavy traffic. Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Anyway, I'm home now, enjoying an adult beverage. Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First GFM report
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 6/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. , and by golly She Who Must Be Obeyed even wants to come along to see what all the fuss is about. Humm. Liz has expressed some interest for 2011 as well. You gals been talkin' :-) Dave That's a tall order at this stage but hey if you aim too low. Looking forward to some pics and reports :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Chris, Colossus and Concrete Kine
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 09:37:20PM +0100, Bob W wrote: I don't know about Foyle's War, but they did have some Bombes there which were used as props for the film Enigma from Robert Harris's novel. Bob So was the U-boat mockup. (Paid for by Mick Jagger, IIRC). I need to hunt down my photographs from thar 2001 visit ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First GFM report
Lynn came with me again this year. She enjoyed the presentations and visiting with old friends. It was only a few weeks since Doug, Ted, and Mark were in Chicago. She took pictures and we submitted 3 to the contest, but no winners. It's easy to get in the spirit of the weekend. The people are always nice and the weather was beautiful. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:09 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 6/6/10, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: The weekend was long, beautiful, grueling and rewarding. Nothing beats seeing old friends at such a fabulous place for such a great event. , and by golly She Who Must Be Obeyed even wants to come along to see what all the fuss is about. Humm. Liz has expressed some interest for 2011 as well. You gals been talkin' :-) Dave That's a tall order at this stage but hey if you aim too low. Looking forward to some pics and reports :) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
paul stenquist wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bob W wrote: [...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... Nasty, but did you get any pictures? sounds painful indeed... especially to the wallet I brought my Leica, in respect to Mr. Frank of course. So I might have pics. I did shoot my car tilting toward the fast land on the shoulder with other cars whizzing by. I believe I also have a shot of Ken and Bill in the Diego Rivera room. Of course its film, so one never knows. Especially since it's a roll of Portra 160 that expired in 2004. But it's been in the freezer, so it's probably okay. Bill brought his new M7 as well. (We did a comparison: to no one's surprise, the iiif RD and M7 differ greatly.:-) In any case, Bill snapped a few pics as well. Nice camera, BTW. He has a Zeiss 35/2 and a Summicron 50/2. Fun stuff. (I brought my Summicron 50/2.5 Collapsible and Summaron 35/3.5. ). So we had half a century of 'crons on hand. All those on hand outdated the lenses by a considerable amount. Paul I knew you'd get a pic! I always used taking shots to be a sort of way of dealing with a problem - though I also found when I got the film developed that those taken in a crisis were often rather soft in focus :-) Ann PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
On Jun 6, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: paul stenquist wrote: On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bob W wrote: [...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... Nasty, but did you get any pictures? sounds painful indeed... especially to the wallet I brought my Leica, in respect to Mr. Frank of course. So I might have pics. I did shoot my car tilting toward the fast land on the shoulder with other cars whizzing by. I believe I also have a shot of Ken and Bill in the Diego Rivera room. Of course its film, so one never knows. Especially since it's a roll of Portra 160 that expired in 2004. But it's been in the freezer, so it's probably okay. Bill brought his new M7 as well. (We did a comparison: to no one's surprise, the iiif RD and M7 differ greatly.:-) In any case, Bill snapped a few pics as well. Nice camera, BTW. He has a Zeiss 35/2 and a Summicron 50/2. Fun stuff. (I brought my Summicron 50/2.5 Collapsible and Summaron 35/3.5. ). So we had half a century of 'crons on hand. All those on hand outdated the lenses by a considerable amount. Paul I knew you'd get a pic! I always used taking shots to be a sort of way of dealing with a problem - though I also found when I got the film developed that those taken in a crisis were often rather soft in focus :-) Well, I was quite calm, just massively annoyed:-). And I focused on the headlight rim with the rangefinder, so it should be in focus. I will probably never finish the roll, so I should just dump it off at Costco. Paul Ann PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Card reader question
They probably do not offer it anymore (the prices are a lot less too) but the first 8 gig SDHC Sandisk cards I bought at Costco over two years ago came with a single card reader (USB 2.0 is usually the clue) in each package. Only 1/2 inch wider and 3/4 in ch longer than the card itself. Leave one plugged into the hub on the iMac, the other goes with my MacBook wherever it goes. On Jun 5, 2010, at 04:40 , David J Brooks wrote: I have a three year old Lexar multi card reader, it takes the standard SD, CFII etc. We now have a Staples store in town and they have memory cards on sale this weekend. The SDHC cards to be precis. How can i tell if my reader will accept the SDHC cards, I have seen some posts here about some older readers not liking the SDHC cards. Do i just but one and try it, and then buy a new reader if it does not like the card. Dave Joseph McAllister Lots of gear, not much time http://gallery.me.com/jomac http://web.me.com/jomac/show.me/Blog/Blog.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
Ouch Paul ! Sorry to hear about your incident. Glad you came out OK except for the dent to your wallet! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I had a good time at the Detroit Institute of Art. The Robert Frank exhibit consisted of his shots of Detroit, many of which are not in his book, The Americans. Some of the images are superb, with plenty of storytelling and nice rendering. A few are borderline in regard to the rendering and exposures. Not everything that's out of focus and poorly exposed is art:-). But overall, the work is interesting and revealing. That was good. Then we went to lunch at Traffic Jam and Snug, which is one of the few places near the museum that's open on Sunday. Good as always. We all refrained from sampling their excellent home brews since it was just barely noon. Left for home at about 1PM. Could have taken Woodward all the way as I usually due, but we had some serious flooding, and I was afraid some of the underpasses might be closed. So I took the Interstate. I was motoring along in the left lane at about 80, which is normal for Detroit, when the guy in front of me swerved hard to the left. Right there about two car lengths ahead was what appeared to be a tire in the land. Since I was driving my Jeep, I figured that if I did a slalom move to avoid it, I'd end up on my head with the greasy side showing. So I moved over as far as I could without doing a violent move, and I hit the tire. Turned out it was a tire and wheel. Blew out both right side tires, but managed to get things under control and pulled off to the shoulder on the left side of the lane. No way I could make it to the right shoulder through heavy traffic. Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Anyway, I'm home now, enjoying an adult beverage. Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
I had my Optio S to uphold the Pentax name in such august company - it never made it out of my wasitpack. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely On Jun 6, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Bob W wrote: [...] Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Nasty, but at least you can still sit down... Nasty, but did you get any pictures? sounds painful indeed... especially to the wallet I brought my Leica, in respect to Mr. Frank of course. So I might have pics. I did shoot my car tilting toward the fast land on the shoulder with other cars whizzing by. I believe I also have a shot of Ken and Bill in the Diego Rivera room. Of course its film, so one never knows. Especially since it's a roll of Portra 160 that expired in 2004. But it's been in the freezer, so it's probably okay. Bill brought his new M7 as well. (We did a comparison: to no one's surprise, the iiif RD and M7 differ greatly.:-) In any case, Bill snapped a few pics as well. Nice camera, BTW. He has a Zeiss 35/2 and a Summicron 50/2. Fun stuff. (I brought my Summicron 50/2.5 Collapsible and Summaron 35/3.5. ). So we had half a century of 'crons on hand. All those on hand outdated the lenses by a considerable amount. Paul ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
And to think I had joked about Paul's jeep having the Detroit option (a missing externally mounted spare tire). Who woulda thunk it? Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer wsaw...@twmi.rr.com Subject: RE: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely Ouch, Paul!! I'm glad it wasn't worse, and that it was daylight. Junk in the roadway - also normal for Detroit. Fun day otherwise, thanks for bringing the Leica. They should be reopening the standing photography exhibit in the fall, no idea yet what they have planned. Maybe we can do it again, this time in your new Bradley Fighting Vehicle... Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of paul stenquist Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 5:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely Bill Sawyer, Ken Waller, and I had a good time at the Detroit Institute of Art. The Robert Frank exhibit consisted of his shots of Detroit, many of which are not in his book, The Americans. Some of the images are superb, with plenty of storytelling and nice rendering. A few are borderline in regard to the rendering and exposures. Not everything that's out of focus and poorly exposed is art:-). But overall, the work is interesting and revealing. That was good. Then we went to lunch at Traffic Jam and Snug, which is one of the few places near the museum that's open on Sunday. Good as always. We all refrained from sampling their excellent home brews since it was just barely noon. Left for home at about 1PM. Could have taken Woodward all the way as I usually due, but we had some serious flooding, and I was afraid some of the underpasses might be closed. So I took the Interstate. I was motoring along in the left lane at about 80, which is normal for Detroit, when the guy in front of me swerved hard to the left. Right there about two car lengths ahead was what appeared to be a tire in the land. Since I was driving my Jeep, I figured that if I did a slalom move to avoid it, I'd end up on my head with the greasy side showing. So I moved over as far as I could without doing a violent move, and I hit the tire. Turned out it was a tire and wheel. Blew out both right side tires, but managed to get things under control and pulled off to the shoulder on the left side of the lane. No way I could make it to the right shoulder through heavy traffic. Sat for two hours before I could get a flatbed out there. Paid him $175 to haul the Jeep 25 miles to my place and drop it in the driveway. Figure I'll still come out ahead by beating the wheels off myself and buying two tires at a discount tire store. If he had taken it to a Detroit shop, they would have raped me, and each employee would probably have taken a turn. Anyway, I'm home now, enjoying an adult beverage. Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: First GFM report
Just an update from me. Pulled into Memphis at about 10:45 pm central tonight after leaving the campground at 12:30 pm eastern. Glad I had a better drive than Paul did. Mark left out one thing about our hike Saturday morning, the rocks were very slippery up the creek and I went down holding my camera and tripod above my head. Luckily, the only thing that went into the creek was my hat. Was great seeing Scott, Matt, the Sullivans, Niko, and Don as well as Doug and Mark. It was very much quieter than last year at PDML Central, Christine, you were missed. Oh well, I need a shower and some sleep. Later, Ted -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lightroom catalogs chaining (a question really)
On 07/06/2010, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: In my opinion it's not a good idea to use several catalogues. I have just consolidated several into one because it was getting out of hand trying to track what was there. I can't see the benefit of having 2 catalogues. I don't run LR yet (though I have it, thanks Larry) but I do run two data bases in my current library app, mainly to provide complete separation between my image files and anyone else's. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Detroit PDML, It Began Nicely
On 07/06/2010, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Good PDML Detroit. Bad trip home. Nice report on the PDML meet (I've never had a bad one), very glad to hear that you came out of the tire incident personally unscathed, it could obviously have been quite nasty hadn't you kept your cool. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: equipment issues this week
On 04/06/2010, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I don't think I mentioned that on Monday I went to a dance in the city. when I got back to the car, a little after 2, I saw that my trunk was open. Not good Larry, there's been too much of this caper lately ;-( Last night, when I got home from photographing some friends play at JJ's, I noticed that the LCD on top of my K20 had taken a hit: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624073414869/ Maybe, if and when, I upgrade I'll send it in. But as long as it works, and it has the plastic scratch protector on it to keep water out, it's not worth the money, or being without my camera for a month. I have no idea how it happened. I didn't drop the camera or bash it with anything. I know that finances are tight but you might find that the part is quite inexpensive, I would assume it's just a matter of removing the one plus the sticky residue and replacing with the mew one (which probably has an adhesive backing)? A crack like that would drive me to distraction. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO -- Off with Ye and your devils contraption!
Another shot from the Renaissance Festival. Some of the natives
objected to my magic picture box.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20acurse.html
Equipment: Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax FA 28~200 f3.8~5.6
As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
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