Re: geso best of the bugs

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 18, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

> That's a fun little gallery, Larry.  I agree with Brian about the dashboard 
> shot.  Very nice there.  Cheers, Christine

Thanks Christine, and everyone else who commented.


> 
> 
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>> On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:15 -0700, "Larry Colen"  wrote:
>>> I trimmed the set down to what I think are the 16 strongest photos:
>>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624749731196/
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Not being a petrol-head, I find it had to get excited by car images but
>> vintage stuff is different. There's some good work in that set:
>> 
>> I really like 60087.jpg - the lighting on that old dashboard is
>> excellent.
>> 
>> Also 69671.jpg, 60108.jpg and 60124.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> Well done.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> Brian
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The 18-250 might be better than I give it credit for.

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Colen
I've had my 18-250 for a couple of years.  I tend to leave it mounted on a 
camera so that no matter what photo opportunity presents itself I've got a lens 
of a suitable focal length.  But if I actually knew what I was going to be 
shooting, I'd throw on a prime of the length that I need. I just didn't think 
of the 18-250 as fast or sharp enough.  It certainly isn't as fast as I'd like, 
especially at the long end, but I seem to keep getting some of my best shots 
with it. For example, my shot in Augenblick was taken with it, because at the 
time, it was my widest lens.

Last weekend I was the photographer at a dance workshop.  Thursday through 
Saturday I was mostly getting shots of the whole class. On Sunday I had the 
18-250 on my K-x and Frank's 10-20 on his K20, but spent most of the day 
zooming in tight to get portraits of one, or two people, usually while they 
were dancing.  It certainly helped that one wall of the room was mostly 
windows, which gave wonderful lighting for the photos.

Two of my favorite photos of the weekend were taken on Sunday with the 18-250:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4900643578/in/set-72157624757360002/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4900061449/in/set-72157624757360002/

I may have to stop equating it with that big ugly screwdriver in my tool box 
which is never "the right tool for the job", but so often the tool that I use 
because it's hand and it'll do the job well enough.

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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
I really like your subject and composition, Peter--sense of scale is 
dynamic.  Cheers, Christine



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 The most annoying thing about the K20D is that it seriously underexposes 
when paired with a A lens.  This file took a lot of manipulation to look 
even this good.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html

Equipment::Pentax K20D/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - Shadows

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Nice detail in the shadows, Rick.  You captured the light and shadows really 
well.  Nice work.  Cheers, Christine




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Subject: PESO - Shadows



On the side of the Center Harbor church:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450522

(K7, DA 50-200)

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Frank, that's a GREAT shot.  Love it!  Really, really nice.  Cheers, 
Christine



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http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: geso best of the bugs

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
That's a fun little gallery, Larry.  I agree with Brian about the dashboard 
shot.  Very nice there.  Cheers, Christine



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On Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:15 -0700, "Larry Colen"  wrote:

I trimmed the set down to what I think are the 16 strongest photos:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157624749731196/




Not being a petrol-head, I find it had to get excited by car images but
vintage stuff is different. There's some good work in that set:

I really like 60087.jpg - the lighting on that old dashboard is
excellent.

Also 69671.jpg, 60108.jpg and 60124.jpg


Well done.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: I think I'll keep the k7 :-)

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Alastair:  Well, there was one little play gallery with 4 photos, and 
this longer one  http://www.caguila.com/caguila/korean2010


Cheers, Christine


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should I be able to see more than 4 shots in the gallery?

Alastair

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Christine  Aguila
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GREAT shots! Wonderful gallery.


Thanks, Frank, for the kind remarks. Cheers, Christine

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Re: OT burn notice

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Sorry to hear of this, Ecke.  Sure hope a new opportunity comes your way 
soon.  Cheers, Christine



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On 8/17/2010 11:46 AM, eckinator wrote:

Well, notice that is. Effective end of year on paper but effectively
now as I am also denied occupational rehab. Sick too long, asset
turned liability. I see it as a chance. Buck up and face the rap I
guess =)



That's a bummer, but I am *sure* you will overcome this *temporary* set 
back.


Boris


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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Christine Aguila
Way to go, Doug.  The book looks good.  Hope you sell tons.  Cheers, 
Christine



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http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1539849

now I guess I better decide what I'm going to say this weekend at GFM.

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Ewins

Interesting stuff. We toured through Quebec, New Brunswick and Nova Scotia in 
August last year and were bemused by the way the francophone population were 
fixated on events that occurred 250 years ago, right down to the slogan on the 
Quebec number plates -  Je me souviens ("I remember").
We joked that the rest of Canada should adopt the slogan "Get over it!".  They 
seem to have the same bloody-minded attitude that afflicts the Irish. So much 
energy wasted on meaningless issues, since one European derived way of living 
is usually similar to another. It is nothing like living in the Middle East or 
Arica where being part of the wrong group can result in persecution or death. 

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Graydon  wrote:
> It's more than a subset of them are convinced the rest of us aren't
> Canadian, rather than that they aren't.  Said subset is in a demographic
> vise and knows it.  (Rather like Toronto is currently past 30% recent
> immigrant; the Bay Street image doesn't fade very fast (what with Bay
> Street still being there) but having one metro region have a quarter of
> the population of a country still has side effects.)
>

Just another note on this, but Westerners are not in a demographic
vise, that's mostly affecting the Maritimes, and to a lesser extent
Quebec as the economic and population centres shift from being Ontario
and Quebec to Ontario and the West (BC/Alberta mostly). The west is
also much less homogeneous than Ontario or Quebec, which are dominated
by Anglo-Saxons and French respectively with most of the other
ethnicities being relatively new arrivals from the post-WW2 period.
The West was settled by subsequent waves of European immigration and
has had significant non-European immigration on and off for almost 130
years and there's really no dominant ethnic groups unlike in the east.

Folks form Southern Ontario and Toronto in particular are somewhat
notorious for assuming that their basic values define 'Canadian
Values'. The CBC, which is functionally a Torontonian monopoly, is the
most guilty, but given that much of the National Media is
Toronto-based and Torontonian-staffed, folks from outside of Southern
Ontario get this alot (Hate Toronto is not just a Western thing,
Northern Ontarians and Maritimers do too). Often times these 'Canadian
Values' aren't shared by those outside of Southern Ontario.

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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
As I'll bet you know, very light objects will cause under exposure. Especially 
when dominating a scene. So, must be something more going on. I shoot only RAW 
with my K20 and ACR is my friend.

Jack

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> Subject: PESO -- Just Fishing
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> Date: Monday, August 16, 2010, 8:22 AM
>  The most annoying thing about the
> K20D is that it seriously underexposes when paired with a A
> lens.  This file took a lot of manipulation to look
> even this good.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html
> 
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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Brendan MacRae




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Very cool, Doug. I hope you sell a bunch of them.

-Brendan


  

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread William Robb


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Note that while I'm a native Westerner, I'm bilingual (well used to
be, my French is bloody rusty) and also lived in Northern Ontario for
a decade, in a city which was 40% Francophone. I quite like the
Quebecois as a people and individuals and the province itsef is
gorgeous.

I however do not like their continual demands for special treatment
politically as well as for recognition as a 'Distinct Society' or a
seperate Nation under the same sovereignity. It's historical hogwash
and pure greed. The Quebecois have been a more equal part of
Confederation since the beginning (along with Ontario) and frankly,
both the Maritimes and the West keep getting screwed by them both.
Quebecois, or Quebec residents have dominated Federal Politics since
the 1960's. We've only had 3 Prime Ministers since 1968 who didn't
come from Quebec ridings and two of those lasted a collective 12
months in power (the third is our current PM, Stephen Harper). Not to
mention the billions of dollars in Transfer payments that already-rich
Quebec has received from taxes collected in Ontario, Alberta and BC.

Frankly, if they want to leave, let them. If not, let them shut up about 
it.


Thank you for putting my thoughts into words.

William Robb 



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Re: PESO - Shadows

2010-08-18 Thread paul stenquist
A nice mood, well rendered/
Paul


On Aug 18, 2010, at 6:03 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> On the side of the Center Harbor church:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450522
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PESO -- Schooner Quinnipiac under sail, New Haven Harbor

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

 /One more tonight.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20scoquinusnhh.html

Equipment:  Pentax K20D w/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - Shadows

2010-08-18 Thread Doug Brewer
I like that, Rick

Doug Brewer
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On Aug 18, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

> On the side of the Center Harbor church:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450522
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Re: What happens when you press the shutter

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
I suspect it comes down to 8+ fps cameras need better damping and get
it. Note the 5D, like the K10D, is a 3fps camera in the high-end
consumer/semi-pro market. The F5 and D3 are much higher-end cameras at
higher prices and with far higher framerates.

-Adam

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> The Canon 5D mirror bounces around as much as the K10D one does; the Nikons 
> do seem better at damping.  Very interesting to watch.
>
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>> Interesting comparison if you look at
>> the similar clips of a F5 or D3
>> - in the K10D the mirror wobbles all over the place until
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>> settles whereas the Nikons stop and dampen it very
>> effectively. Lots
>> of time to gained there...
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PESO - Shadows

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
On the side of the Center Harbor church:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450522

(K7, DA 50-200)

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Re: What happens when you press the shutter

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
The Canon 5D mirror bounces around as much as the K10D one does; the Nikons do 
seem better at damping.  Very interesting to watch.

Rick

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--- On Wed, 8/18/10, eckinator  wrote:

> Interesting comparison if you look at
> the similar clips of a F5 or D3
> - in the K10D the mirror wobbles all over the place until
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> settles whereas the Nikons stop and dampen it very
> effectively. Lots
> of time to gained there...
> Cheers
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> 
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> >
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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Graydon  wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:26:05PM -0500, Walter Gilbert scripsit:
>> Ah.  Sounds like the Quebecois are Vichy Canadians, and
>> Torontonians are Ontario's version of Parisians.
>
> Well, or Westerners generally don't like Québécois and you're getting
> the opinions of Westerners.
>
> It's more than a subset of them are convinced the rest of us aren't
> Canadian, rather than that they aren't.  Said subset is in a demographic
> vise and knows it.  (Rather like Toronto is currently past 30% recent
> immigrant; the Bay Street image doesn't fade very fast (what with Bay
> Street still being there) but having one metro region have a quarter of
> the population of a country still has side effects.)
>
> I have no French to speak of but quite like Quebec and various Québécois
> colleagues I've had over the years.  Anyone with landscape photography
> ambitions could do a lot worse than to spend some time around Quebec
> City, and you could die of your age before getting through all the good
> food in Montreal.
>
> -- Graydon

Note that while I'm a native Westerner, I'm bilingual (well used to
be, my French is bloody rusty) and also lived in Northern Ontario for
a decade, in a city which was 40% Francophone. I quite like the
Quebecois as a people and individuals and the province itsef is
gorgeous.

I however do not like their continual demands for special treatment
politically as well as for recognition as a 'Distinct Society' or a
seperate Nation under the same sovereignity. It's historical hogwash
and pure greed. The Quebecois have been a more equal part of
Confederation since the beginning (along with Ontario) and frankly,
both the Maritimes and the West keep getting screwed by them both.
Quebecois, or Quebec residents have dominated Federal Politics since
the 1960's. We've only had 3 Prime Ministers since 1968 who didn't
come from Quebec ridings and two of those lasted a collective 12
months in power (the third is our current PM, Stephen Harper). Not to
mention the billions of dollars in Transfer payments that already-rich
Quebec has received from taxes collected in Ontario, Alberta and BC.

Frankly, if they want to leave, let them. If not, let them shut up about it.

-Adam

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Re: PESO -- Pigeon Pie

2010-08-18 Thread Walter Gilbert

 It's like Hitchcock meets Kubrick.

On 8/16/2010 11:20 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
 I seriously missed the focus on this.  Not sharp anywhere even after 
massaging it with Focus Magic, quite a bit.  Still Content is King, or 
so some say.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pigeonpie.html


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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Graydon
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:26:05PM -0500, Walter Gilbert scripsit:
> Ah.  Sounds like the Quebecois are Vichy Canadians, and
> Torontonians are Ontario's version of Parisians.

Well, or Westerners generally don't like Québécois and you're getting
the opinions of Westerners. 

It's more than a subset of them are convinced the rest of us aren't
Canadian, rather than that they aren't.  Said subset is in a demographic
vise and knows it.  (Rather like Toronto is currently past 30% recent
immigrant; the Bay Street image doesn't fade very fast (what with Bay
Street still being there) but having one metro region have a quarter of
the population of a country still has side effects.)

I have no French to speak of but quite like Quebec and various Québécois
colleagues I've had over the years.  Anyone with landscape photography
ambitions could do a lot worse than to spend some time around Quebec
City, and you could die of your age before getting through all the good
food in Montreal.

-- Graydon

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PESO: Roots

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On the grounds of the US Capitol:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11105230

Comments, Questions, Criticisms and Abuse are Welcome.

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
2010/8/19 Walter Gilbert :
>
>  Ah.  Sounds like the Quebecois are Vichy Canadians, and Torontonians are
> Ontario's version of Parisians.

Quiet days in Cliché... but yes it sounds like it =)

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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Brian Walters"

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:22 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
 wrote:
>   The most annoying thing about the K20D is that it seriously 
> underexposes when paired with a A lens.  This file took a lot of 
> manipulation to look even this good.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html
> 



There's nothing quite like a dose of heavy metals in your diet...

I wonder if that underexposure problem is specific to the K20D.  I can't
say I've noticed it on the DS or K200D, although the only 'A' lens I've
used on them is the Tamron 90 mm with KA adapter.


I've not noticed it with the K20D.

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
 Ah.  Sounds like the Quebecois are Vichy Canadians, and Torontonians 
are Ontario's version of Parisians.


On 8/18/2010 6:46 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

Oh, the Quebecois have some of that going as well, especially when out
west. But at least many of them want to leave as well, they aren't
convinced they're Canada like so many Torontonians are.

-Adam
Note, I'm a native westerner currently stuck in Toronto. I've seen
both sides. And mostly agree with the non-Torontonians.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:

  I was always under the impression that the Quebecois were thought of in
that manner.

Probably something I picked up from watching Kids in the Hall.

Best,

Walt

On 8/18/2010 6:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Bob Wwrote:

And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
wasn't technically in Canada.


why?


Mostly because they're sick of Torontonians, who are somewhat
notorious for acting like Toronto's the only place that matters in
Canada.

-Adam



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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

 I was talking attitude, not latitude.

On 8/18/2010 8:04 PM, William Robb wrote:


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Subject: Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

 Wouldn't Toronto always get Canadian winters?   Being in Canada and 
all...




Look at a map sometime. Toronto is almost as far south as San Francisco

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Re: PESO -- Pigeon Pie

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a very strange image;  a bit confusing and discomforting.

Dan

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
>  I seriously missed the focus on this.  Not sharp anywhere even after
> massaging it with Focus Magic, quite a bit.  Still Content is King, or so
> some say.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pigeonpie.html
>
>
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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

 I was always under the impression that the Quebecois were thought of in 
that manner.


The Quebecois actually think that they are all that matters.
Think of an entire province that acts like the post office and you have 
their attitude in a nutshell.

Quebec is sort of the spoiled stepchild of Confederation
I suspect that if they are foolish enough to hold another referendum about 
sovereignty, they will be asked to leave, and we'll take Labrador back and 
let it be part of Newfoundland again.


William Robb


Probably something I picked up from watching Kids in the Hall.

Best,

Walt

On 8/18/2010 6:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Bob W  wrote:

And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
wasn't technically in Canada.


why?


Mostly because they're sick of Torontonians, who are somewhat
notorious for acting like Toronto's the only place that matters in
Canada.

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread William Robb


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Subject: Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

 Wouldn't Toronto always get Canadian winters?   Being in Canada and 
all...




Look at a map sometime. Toronto is almost as far south as San Francisco

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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread paul stenquist
Love the title! And the pages shown on the preview reveal a very pleasing set 
of images -- eclectic but with a stylistic thread that makes them uniquely 
yours.
Paul

On Aug 18, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

> http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1539849
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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
Oh, the Quebecois have some of that going as well, especially when out
west. But at least many of them want to leave as well, they aren't
convinced they're Canada like so many Torontonians are.

-Adam
Note, I'm a native westerner currently stuck in Toronto. I've seen
both sides. And mostly agree with the non-Torontonians.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>  I was always under the impression that the Quebecois were thought of in
> that manner.
>
> Probably something I picked up from watching Kids in the Hall.
>
> Best,
>
> Walt
>
> On 8/18/2010 6:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Bob W  wrote:

 And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
 wasn't technically in Canada.

>>> why?
>>>
>> Mostly because they're sick of Torontonians, who are somewhat
>> notorious for acting like Toronto's the only place that matters in
>> Canada.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Walter Gilbert
 I was always under the impression that the Quebecois were thought of 
in that manner.


Probably something I picked up from watching Kids in the Hall.

Best,

Walt

On 8/18/2010 6:26 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Bob W  wrote:

And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
wasn't technically in Canada.


why?


Mostly because they're sick of Torontonians, who are somewhat
notorious for acting like Toronto's the only place that matters in
Canada.

-Adam




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Re: What happens when you press the shutter

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
Interesting comparison if you look at the similar clips of a F5 or D3
- in the K10D the mirror wobbles all over the place until it finally
settles whereas the Nikons stop and dampen it very effectively. Lots
of time to gained there...
Cheers
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What happens when you press the shutter

2010-08-18 Thread David Parsons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJyKKnR5b8&feature=player_embedded

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
>> wasn't technically in Canada.
>>
>
> why?
>

Mostly because they're sick of Torontonians, who are somewhat
notorious for acting like Toronto's the only place that matters in
Canada.

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RE: PESO -- Pigeon Pie

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
>   I seriously missed the focus on this.  Not sharp anywhere even after
> massaging it with Focus Magic, quite a bit.  Still Content is King, or so
some
> say.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pigeonpie.html
> 

Yeugh! that's revolting. I was hoping for a nice sweet b'stilla.




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PESO -- Pigeon Pie

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
 I seriously missed the focus on this.  Not sharp anywhere even after 
massaging it with Focus Magic, quite a bit.  Still Content is King, or 
so some say.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20pigeonpie.html


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RE: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--
> %20%20justfishingt.html
> >
> 
> 
> There's nothing quite like a dose of heavy metals in your diet...
> 

I spent the weekend in Cornwall and did some cycling around old mining
trails. There were people picking blackberries from bushes growing from the
old arsenic-infected spoil heaps. Incredible really when there's so much
unpolluted countryside with blackberries growing.

Bob


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RE: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
> http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1539849
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> now I guess I better decide what I'm going to say this weekend at GFM.
> 

Looks great. Why not say "Buy my book!" in a very loud voice so everyone can
hear.

B


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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

 Just lucky I guess.

On 8/18/2010 6:08 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:31 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
  wrote:

   I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day
growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...



Yes, but wouldn't you have to know in advance when they were coming?

Or do you always look like that?

:-)>



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On 8/18/2010 9:56 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

On 8/17/10, Tom C   wrote:

   And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
   the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
   them for others.  There are exceptions of course.

   So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
   door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
   the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
   everywhere in the world.

Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
bother you.

The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"

In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
bunny beating his drum.  Grr!

Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
trying his best not to make eye contact with them.






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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 11:22 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
 wrote:
>   The most annoying thing about the K20D is that it seriously 
> underexposes when paired with a A lens.  This file took a lot of 
> manipulation to look even this good.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html
> 


There's nothing quite like a dose of heavy metals in your diet...

I wonder if that underexposure problem is specific to the K20D.  I can't
say I've noticed it on the DS or K200D, although the only 'A' lens I've
used on them is the Tamron 90 mm with KA adapter.



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RE: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
> >   I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day
> > growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, but wouldn't you have to know in advance when they were coming?
> 
> Or do you always look like that?
> 
> :-)>
> 

when he knows they're coming he leaves the robe open...






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RE: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
> And most of Canada greatly wishes that Toronto
> wasn't technically in Canada.
> 

why?



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Re: PAW32 - Seagull

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Fan of the late Red Skelton?

O ya.

Dave
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, David J Brooks  wrote:
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>> From: David J Brooks 
>> Subject: Re: PAW32 - Seagull
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:52 AM
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick
>> Womer 
>> wrote:
>> > We were both bitten by the minimalism bug this
>> week...
>> >
>> > The gull isn't large enough to be identifiable.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure it Heathcliff.
>>
>> Dave
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Sun, 8/15/10, DagT 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> From: DagT 
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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
Dam, is this weekend the PJ weekend.

>From the preview it looks like a great photo book Doug, as a cook
book, it sucks.

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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
Looking for the dreaded 3 eyed trout.

Dave

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>  The most annoying thing about the K20D is that it seriously underexposes
> when paired with a A lens.  This file took a lot of manipulation to look
> even this good.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html
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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
Excellent!  The expression on the woman's face is great, as is the girl's pose, 
and the background provides the context.

Rick

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> Subject: PESO - The Long and the Short of It
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> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 7:37 AM
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html
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> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
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Re: Heard from Sue

2010-08-18 Thread Stan Halpin
Likewise.

stan

On Aug 18, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Just paid Sue Barton $17.37 (PayPal) for shipping costs to return my Chicago 
> gallery image.
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Re: PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
He sure picked a lovely place to fish...

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>  The most annoying thing about the
> K20D is that it seriously underexposes when paired with a A
> lens.  This file took a lot of manipulation to look
> even this good.
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html
> 
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:31 -0400, "P. J. Alling"
 wrote:
>   I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day 
> growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...



Yes, but wouldn't you have to know in advance when they were coming?

Or do you always look like that?

:-)>



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> 
> On 8/18/2010 9:56 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
> > On 8/17/10, Tom C  wrote:
> >>   And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
> >>   the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
> >>   them for others.  There are exceptions of course.
> >>
> >>   So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
> >>   door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
> >>   the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
> >>   everywhere in the world.
> > Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
> > proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
> > the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
> > to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
> > bother you.
> >
> > The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
> > At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
> > they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
> > were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
> > explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
> > I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
> > allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
> > atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
> > door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
> > instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
> > open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"
> >
> > In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
> > when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
> > bunny beating his drum.  Grr!
> >
> > Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
> > trying his best not to make eye contact with them.
> >
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A nice gesture by CRIS

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Colen
When I sent my K20 in to be repaired, I asked about them fixing the eyecup 
under warranty, they said, and wrote on the paperwork, that it is an accessory, 
and not something they can replace.  No problem, I understand how those things 
work.

I just noticed that my K20 now has a new eyecup, not the old broken one that I 
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PESO -- Just Fishing

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
 The most annoying thing about the K20D is that it seriously 
underexposes when paired with a A lens.  This file took a lot of 
manipulation to look even this good.


http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20justfishingt.html

Equipment::Pentax K20D/smc Pentax A*300mm f4.0

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

 I forgot that it was two in the afternoon...

On 8/18/2010 5:34 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2010-08-16 10:31, P. J. Alling wrote:

I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day
growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...


A ratty robe, several days growth of beard, and an empty gun belt 
worked OK, too.





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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-08-16 10:31, P. J. Alling wrote:

I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day
growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...


A ratty robe, several days growth of beard, and an empty gun belt worked 
OK, too.


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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
No, Toronto generally gets a quite mild winter. When we get a winter
that more resembles a real Canadian winter, Snow removal actually has
to work and that's not in the budget. And most of Canada greatly
wishes that Toronto wasn't technically in Canada.

It's not that bad, Victoria, BC doesn't even own a snowplow. Of course
they've had about 3 feet of snow cumulative in the last 20 years, 2
feet of which happened in one day about 14 years ago.

-Adam

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
>  Wouldn't Toronto always get Canadian winters?   Being in Canada and all...
>
> On 8/18/2010 4:22 PM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Steven Desjardins
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Not even a little.  We got a bunch of snow and that's just a nuisance
>>> when you live in a place that doesn't want to allocate enough money to
>>> handle it.
>>>
>> That's not an unusual problem, Toronto regularly runs through its snow
>> removal budget 1-2 months early whenever we get Canadian winters.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
Best solution I've found is a Canon Lawyer/Theologian with a
Greek/English New Testament. Having their somewhat unique take on
Christian Theology torn to sheds by somebody well above their weight
level tends to drive Jehovah's Witnesses to tears. Or to screaming
fits.

Thankfully I used to have such a beast on tap. Probably could still
get him to road trip down if need be.

-Adam

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:31 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
>  I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day growth
> of beard caused them to leave and never come back...
>
> On 8/18/2010 9:56 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:
>>
>> On 8/17/10, Tom C  wrote:
>>>
>>>  And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
>>>  the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
>>>  them for others.  There are exceptions of course.
>>>
>>>  So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
>>>  door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
>>>  the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
>>>  everywhere in the world.
>>
>> Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
>> proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
>> the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
>> to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
>> bother you.
>>
>> The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
>> At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
>> they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
>> were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
>> explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
>> I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
>> allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
>> atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
>> door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
>> instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
>> open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"
>>
>> In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
>> when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
>> bunny beating his drum.  Grr!
>>
>> Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
>> trying his best not to make eye contact with them.
>>
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
> On 2010-08-18 14:25, eckinator wrote:
>
>> My local butcher's wife tells the most ludicrous stories to
>> telemarketers.
>
> http://www.419baiter.com
> http://www.419eater.com
> http://www.419hell.com
>
> and many, many more (do a web search for "419 scam bait").  It's quite a
> widespread phenomenon, and some folks are /really/ good at it. :-)  One
> story I read a couple of years ago, the baiter got the 419 scammer to send
> /him/ money!
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IIRC, the baiter in question was posing as a professor at Miskatonic
University when he scammed the scammer.

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Re: Pictures by the late Herman Leonard

2010-08-18 Thread Derby Chang

Richard D Bush wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11000692

Enjoy.

RB




And there's a nice little writeup in Slate today.

http://www.slate.com/id/2264119/

I think the book is a must-get
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608193330

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
 I found that opening the door in a ratty blue robe, and a three day 
growth of beard caused them to leave and never come back...


On 8/18/2010 9:56 AM, Scott Loveless wrote:

On 8/17/10, Tom C  wrote:

  And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
  the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
  them for others.  There are exceptions of course.

  So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
  door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
  the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
  everywhere in the world.

Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
bother you.

The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"

In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
bunny beating his drum.  Grr!

Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
trying his best not to make eye contact with them.




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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling

 Wouldn't Toronto always get Canadian winters?   Being in Canada and all...

On 8/18/2010 4:22 PM, Adam Maas wrote:

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Not even a little.  We got a bunch of snow and that's just a nuisance
when you live in a place that doesn't want to allocate enough money to
handle it.


That's not an unusual problem, Toronto regularly runs through its snow
removal budget 1-2 months early whenever we get Canadian winters.

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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Doug Brewer

Jack Davis wrote:

Be prepared to say "thanks" to all those buying this book. My impression is 
that it's well done, Doug.

Jack


hey, I'm glad to say thanks because nobody's laughing.

As far as I know.

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-08-18 14:25, eckinator wrote:


My local butcher's wife tells the most ludicrous stories to
telemarketers.


http://www.419baiter.com
http://www.419eater.com
http://www.419hell.com

and many, many more (do a web search for "419 scam bait").  It's quite a 
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story I read a couple of years ago, the baiter got the 419 scammer to 
send /him/ money!


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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
Be prepared to say "thanks" to all those buying this book. My impression is 
that it's well done, Doug.

Jack

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> http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1539849
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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Not even a little.  We got a bunch of snow and that's just a nuisance
> when you live in a place that doesn't want to allocate enough money to
> handle it.
>

That's not an unusual problem, Toronto regularly runs through its snow
removal budget 1-2 months early whenever we get Canadian winters.

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 18, 2010, at 4:37 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

I love it.  It looks like the original was also quite colorful, though it's 
hard to say whether the colors would add to the shot or distract from the 
expression.

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Re: what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Bob Sullivan
Doug,
What I can see looks good.
Regards,  Bob S.

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what I've been doing

2010-08-18 Thread Doug Brewer

http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/detail/1539849

now I guess I better decide what I'm going to say this weekend at GFM.

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread mike wilson

eckinator wrote:


2010/8/18 Cotty :


You should come watch them try and convert my wife. After half an hour
engaging them on the doorstep, they make excuses and leave. I think one
or two have become Buddhists.



My local butcher's wife tells the most ludicrous stories to
telemarketers. Last time I was present while she took a call, she told
that person that her husband was off to thailand on a sex trip and
didn't leave her any money and that she had no authority and wasn't
gonna do so anyway and so on... =)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?hl=en&v=StOp3KFaRmA&gl=US

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Re: OT burn notice

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
2010/8/18 John Sessoms :
>
> Yeah, they can do that here as well - can't single you out, but if they're
> eliminating the whole department or whatever, you can be laid off along with
> them - but not fired.

OK got it straight then =)

> And what's called "workman's comp" (compensation for pay lost due to on the
> job injury) as well as medical benefits continues until you are made whole
> again.

Technically this wasn't an on the job injury or rather it would have
to be proven in court that my burn out and subsequent illnesses was
monocausally work overload related. However, it is all covered under
my health plan so I get 63% of my last salary after taxes which is
enough to live on without accumulating an unmanageable debt.
Technically, I also get a small severance payment but it is all in the
form of not having to pay back overpaid salary portions so my debt
stays and I will have to deal with it some other way. If push comes to
shove, I can always sell a bunch of stuff or ask my family for help so
I will be OK =)

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
2010/8/18 Cotty :
>
> You should come watch them try and convert my wife. After half an hour
> engaging them on the doorstep, they make excuses and leave. I think one
> or two have become Buddhists.

My local butcher's wife tells the most ludicrous stories to
telemarketers. Last time I was present while she took a call, she told
that person that her husband was off to thailand on a sex trip and
didn't leave her any money and that she had no authority and wasn't
gonna do so anyway and so on... =)
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/10, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

>The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
>At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
>they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
>were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
>explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
>I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
>allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
>atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
>door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
>instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
>open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"

You should come watch them try and convert my wife. After half an hour
engaging them on the doorstep, they make excuses and leave. I think one
or two have become Buddhists.

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Re: PESO: Sister's new puppy

2010-08-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Obviously he should be called "Blue".

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Walter Gilbert  wrote:
>  Yeah.  I suppose I'd look a little blue, too.
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> On 8/15/2010 5:42 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>  He looks so unhappy since he has no name
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Re: Opinions on the FAJ 18-35 for film use.

2010-08-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
FYI, the FA20-35 works great with digital.  The range may not be as
interesting as it was with film, but image quality is wonderful.  it's
also surprisingly light.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 6:56 AM, mike wilson  wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
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>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:48 -0500, "Ira H. Bryant IV"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:28:25 +0100
>>> mike wilson  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Ira H. Bryant IV wrote:


> Anyway, I know that I'm not answering the question you asked, but I
> hope it helps anyway.


 Mark!
>>>
>>> C'mon, if the people on this list only answered the questions that were
>>> asked then the list would have died off ages ago! :)
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>> Well - Let's MARK! that as well
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Re: PAW32 - Seagull

2010-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
Fan of the late Red Skelton?

Jack

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Re: PESO - Village Church

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Center Harbor, NH.  Not a missile in sight!

Is some one missing one.??
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450517
>
> I liked the light and shadow on the steeple:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450519
>
> (K7, DA 16-45 and DA 50-200)
>
> Rick

I like them both Rick. The shadow in the second is nice.

Dave
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Re: PAW32 - Seagull

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We were both bitten by the minimalism bug this week...
>
> The gull isn't large enough to be identifiable.

I'm pretty sure it Heathcliff.

Dave
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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
Love it.

Dave

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Re: geso best of the bugs

2010-08-18 Thread David J Brooks
Very good.

I like 60089.

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Re: geso best of the bugs

2010-08-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/8/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I see that we share an aesthetic.

Mark!

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Re: Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?

2010-08-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Not even a little.  We got a bunch of snow and that's just a nuisance
when you live in a place that doesn't want to allocate enough money to
handle it.

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Adam Maas  wrote:
> Yep, I generally start missing it in late May. But I rather like my
> cold weather, must be the Finnish side. Anything over 25C is too hot
> unless the humidity's eally low.
>
> -Adam
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Jerry in Arizona  
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>> To be honest . . . YES!  Tired of 115f+  Phoenix and the Valley of the sun 
>> are
>> gorgeous in fall, winter and spring.  Summer sucks!
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>> <> Message-ID: <4c6576d3.8080...@gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>   Anybody in the northern hemisphere missing winter?  Didn't think so.
>> However I was looking through old files looking for something and found
>> this.    If it looks cold it's because it was.
>>
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20%20tuxisislandandeastwharfboat.html
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread mike wilson

Scott Loveless wrote:


On 8/17/10, Tom C  wrote:


And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
them for others.  There are exceptions of course.

So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
everywhere in the world.



Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
bother you.

The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"

In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
bunny beating his drum.  Grr!

Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
trying his best not to make eye contact with them.


Get your wife to shout "Jehovah!" at them through the letterbox.

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Re: Heard from Sue

2010-08-18 Thread Paul Sorenson

 I heard from her as well...

-p

On 8/18/2010 10:59 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Just paid Sue Barton $17.37 (PayPal) for shipping costs to return my Chicago 
gallery image.

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Re: Pictures by the late Herman Leonard

2010-08-18 Thread mike wilson

Bob W wrote:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-11000692

Enjoy.

RB



fantastic. Marilyn can ride my elephant any time she likes.


As long as she's wearing that costume.  But I prefer the Gottlieb pictures.

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Re: geso best of the bugs

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Very nice gallery, Larry.

Dan

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a nice image, with wonderful body language.

Dan

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Re: PAW32 - Seagull

2010-08-18 Thread DagT
Thanks Brian and all the others.

You are right , the picture is mostly for fun .-)

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Den 18. aug. 2010 kl. 13.07 skrev Brian Walters:

> On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:05 +0200, "DagT"  wrote:
>> http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html
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> 
> 
> A better title might have been 'Can you sea the gull?'
> 
> As an exercise in breaking all the rules of composition, it works - in a
> funny sort of way.
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> Cheers
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> ++
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RE: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
I have no idea. He is not Jewish in fact, but telling them so makes them
stay away.


> 
> Why would that be an obstacle? As you know the earliest Christians were
> Jews, not to mention Christ himself.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> > [...]
> >>
> >> Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
> > proselytizers
> >> enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without the fear of
> >> being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not to, or put
> >> up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to bother you.
> >>
> > [...]
> >
> > my brother-in-law discovered that telling them he was Jewish was an
> > effective way of making sure they never came back.
> >
> > Bob



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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Tom C
Why would that be an obstacle? As you know the earliest Christians
were Jews, not to mention Christ himself.


On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
> proselytizers
>> enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without the fear of being
>> prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not to, or put up a sign
>> specifically stating that you don't want them to bother you.
>>
> [...]
>
> my brother-in-law discovered that telling them he was Jewish was an
> effective way of making sure they never came back.
>
> Bob
>
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Heard from Sue

2010-08-18 Thread Jack Davis
Just paid Sue Barton $17.37 (PayPal) for shipping costs to return my Chicago 
gallery image.

Jack


  

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RE: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Bob W
[...]
> 
> Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
proselytizers
> enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without the fear of being
> prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not to, or put up a sign
> specifically stating that you don't want them to bother you.
> 
[...]

my brother-in-law discovered that telling them he was Jewish was an
effective way of making sure they never came back.

Bob


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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Tom C
I can understand how you feel.  I dislike the sometimes walls off Girl
Scouts outside the local grocery stores. :-)   I also get phone calls
from the Idaho Falls (a city 200 miles away) Fraternal Order of
Police, asking for donations.   That happens several times a month. or
several times a week.

The reason they keep coming back is 1) it's likely not the exact same
individuals, 2) people change residences, or 3) life circumstances
change. An athiest may not be interested in God today, but possibly
some event has occurred in their lives that would make them more
receptive next month, next year.

Overall though, the slight bother by being interrupted by people or
things we may not wish to hear about, is worth the price, and far
better than living in a society where free speech, access, and actions
are restricted based on the whims of those in power, or the the
courts.

Tom C.

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Scott Loveless  wrote:

>
> Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
> proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
> the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
> to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
> bother you.
>
> The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
> At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
> they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
> were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
> explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
> I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
> allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
> atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
> door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
> instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
> open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"
>
> In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
> when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
> bunny beating his drum.  Grr!
>
> Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
> trying his best not to make eye contact with them.
>
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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread Scott Loveless
On 8/17/10, Tom C  wrote:
>  And as has been stated many times, once the government can restrict
>  the freedoms or speech of one group, it's a short step to restricting
>  them for others.  There are exceptions of course.
>
>  So next time one walks by a tract passer or receives a knock on their
>  door, instead of being bothered, one could reflect on the fact that
>  the feedom to express one's beliefs in public is not a freedom enjoyed
>  everywhere in the world.

Here in the Good Ol', the courts have pretty much decided that
proselytizers enjoy the right to come and knock on your door without
the fear of being prosecuted for trespass.  Even if you tell them not
to, or put up a sign specifically stating that you don't want them to
bother you.

The J-Dubs knock on my door twice a year.  I always seem to be home.
At first I politely declined their offer to read to me from that book
they're always toting around.  Then I told them that my own beliefs
were solid and I wasn't in need of their services.  After that I
explained that I'm an atheist and most definitely uninterested.  Once
I offered to let them come in and preach to me, but only if they
allowed me the same amount of time to tell them the good news of
atheism.  They declined and went away.  Once or twice I slammed the
door before they could finish saying "hello".  In almost all of these
instances I've asked them to not return.  This last time I didn't even
open the door.  I just yelled "go away!"

In their defense, they are always polite.  They always turn and leave
when I ask them to.  But they just keep coming back.  Like that damn
bunny beating his drum.  Grr!

Nice photo, Frank.  I particularly like how the guy on the right is
trying his best not to make eye contact with them.

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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread Brian Walters
On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 07:37 -0400, "frank theriault"
 wrote:
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 


That's great.  You've caught a wonderful moment and the look on the
stilt walker's face is the icing on the cake.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: PESO - Distributors of Tracts

2010-08-18 Thread P. J. Alling
I kind of thought that was covered by the riches of the Jerusalem being 
being brought by the Pilgrims and the Younger sons of Nobility needing 
lands of their own.  Of course the sack of Byzantium was all about 
riches, but still related...


frank theriault wrote:

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:54 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

  

There were many reasons for the Crusades to "Recapture the Holy Lands",
 took place.




Yeah, like lots of gold and riches to plunder...

cheers,
frank


  



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Re: PESO - Village Church

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
I do too, Brian, for the same reasons.

Thanks!

Rick

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> > Center Harbor, NH.  Not a missile in sight!
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450517
> > 
> > I liked the light and shadow on the steeple:
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11450519
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> I prefer the second image - it focuses in on the most
> interesting part
> of the building.  I think the first is a little
> cluttered and is
> dominated by the dark, featureless tree on the left.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: PESO - Rainy Morning

2010-08-18 Thread Rick Womer
Thanks much, Frank!

Rick

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> > Yesterday morning was cool and wet at the lake.
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11448033
> >
> > and
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11448031
> >
> 
> Both stunners, but the canoe shot is especially
> beautiful.  Terrific
> composition!
> 
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> frank
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Re: OT burn notice

2010-08-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: eckinator

2010/8/18 John Sessoms :

>
> I'm not sure I understand this. If your injury/illness is occupation related
> how can you be denied rehab?
> Here in the states, if you are injured on the job or become ill due to job
> related factors, they cannot legally fire you.


not here, you can be laid off during illness if your prognoses is bad
or if your position technically ceases to exist. that is the route
they chose. the team I was in was made up of three people, one quit,
one is ill and one was hired for a different team in the first place
and will relocate back to there. so they can let me go for
organizational reasons. it is legal.



Yeah, they can do that here as well - can't single you out, but if 
they're eliminating the whole department or whatever, you can be laid 
off along with them - but not fired.


And what's called "workman's comp" (compensation for pay lost due to on 
the job injury) as well as medical benefits continues until you are made 
whole again.


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Re: PESO - The Long and the Short of It

2010-08-18 Thread eckinator
2010/8/18 frank theriault :
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2010/08/long-and-short-of-it.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.

very much do. thanks for sharing
Ecke

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