scavenger photos

2011-04-05 Thread steve harley

all local (3 are domestic), two taken today, all taken in last 5 days


http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/scavenger%2020110404?h=4ea1cb

thanks Larry it was fun

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7 news tomorrow night for Aussies...

2011-04-05 Thread Tanya Love

Awesome update everyone!  I am going to be on 7 news tomorrow night to talk
about The Constellations Project!  

Me and my trusty K7 will be walking around Grantham working and showing
what the project is all about!  They are promoting it tonight during
Winners and Losers so keep your eyes peeled.j

Not sure if it will be national or just Queensland, but keep an eye out
regardless!

Tan.x.

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Re: peso buy three

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 4, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 Lately, I've been dreaming of a motorbike with a sidecar.  Cheers, Christine

A friend of mine has an Ural, which is basically a prewar BMW with sidecar, 
where the Russians looted the factory after the war, brought it to Russia, and 
have been making them, essentially unchanged since the end of WWII.

Sidecars definitely get points for cool, they're also apparently scary as hell 
to drive.


 
 
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 Subject: Re: peso buy three
 
 
 That's an old HD Servicar.  I wonder if it still ran?  Trikes are
 getting more popular; they might get some money for that thing.
 
 Nice shot(s) BTW.
 
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 
 My only question is whether there will be any comments without puns, before 
 the inevitable paronomasia commences.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5589996235/in/set-72157626305573197/
 
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Scavenger hunt urls

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
I tried to grep the urls for all the scavenger hunt photos into one file.  It 
turns out that my new mail server isn't as user friendly as my old one when it 
comes to searching through email, so the list isn't as clean as I'd like.

I'm inclined to suggest that in the future, we just set up a free flickr 
account where everyone can just post them in one place.  Anyways, this is what 
I've got, albeit with a bit of other random stuff mixed in.


http://annsan.smugmug.com/Other/PDML-Scavenger-hunt/16460181_SXwcL
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Scavenger040411/index.html
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight
http://my.wisestamp.com/link?u=ypgdb385pypw7fhbsite=www.wisestamp.com/email-install
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1001899
http://photo.net/photos/RickW
http://polipix.posterous.com
http://twitter.com/walt_gilbert
http://waltgilbert.posterous.com
http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testcolor/content/IMGP0683_1_large.html
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/scavenger%2020110404?h=4ea1cb
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/sets/72157626423384212/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5584784918/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5587263146/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5587266368/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/walt_gilbert/
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157626422823888/
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157626423183364/
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/waltergilbert
http://www.studio1941.com/scavenger/index.html


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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/4/2011 21:29, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
 It is damn near impossible to find anyone who actually shoots with
 it, posts pictures on the web and admits it. The lens should be in my
 hands tomorrow morning, I will just have to see first-hand.
 
 kris
 
 This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all 
 time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all...

That's what it looks like through the viewfinder of my K100.
 

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Re: I think it's a cell phone advertisement.

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:01 PM, William Robb wrote:

 On 04/04/2011 10:52 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
 Wanna share?
 
 On 4/4/2011 11:42 PM, William Robb wrote:
 Whatever it is, I found it quite wonderful.
 
 
 
 
 Damn. I hate it when I do that..
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CDLBTJD4M

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Re: Nooks and Crannies [K-5 + DA15, FA*24, FA31]

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/4/2011 22:47, Andrew Allen wrote:

Hi Pentaxians

Here is a recent street series photographed primarily in urban St.
Louis with three of my favorite lenses - and of course my favorite
camera, the K-5.  Comments/questions welcome.

http://andrewallenphoto.com/p379560305

-Andy


The urban disconnect is fantastic. The last one I am not certain I 
understand correctly or completely. The rest are good but I've seen 
similar photos from you before. Without disrespect, Andy, I'd rather see 
more photos like The urban disconnect than those of urban decay.


Offered merely as an opinion.

Boris


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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/4/2011 22:02, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

The OK button of my, or rather Michael's, K10D has stopped working. Just
got the cost estimate for the repair: 310,45 euros!

My DS gave up after 4 years (rear thumbwheel erratic, repair too
expensive), the K10D, 4 1/2 years old, is now beyond economical repair,
my K-7 had been exchanged by the dealer and #2 needed a new trigger
button after less than a year, and I'm at my 4th K-5 and counting...

Is this just a strain of bad luck or is Pentax' quality really going
down the drain? Or is an average economic lifetime of a mere 4 1/2 years
for a DSLR a normal thing nowadays?

Ralf


Ralf, without going into your financial situation I should point out 
that 4+ years for a DSLR is a lot. I cannot possibly know how much 
Michael is shooting with his K10D, but I think that half the declared 
guaranteed number of shutter actuations is not bad at all on my book.


My K10D has 23,000+ clicks and doing as good as it was when I bought it 
back in 2006. I hope it will do as many clicks more before it finally 
expires.


I cannot possibly disagree that QC does not appear improving over the 
years, but then so does the complexity of the cameras. I don't think you 
could outright deny that other manufacturers are completely trouble free 
too.


Yet I certainly can relate to your frustration. These things are 
certainly not peanuts.


Boris

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en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
Sometimes one has to forgo precious posessions to acquire others. I
just sold my FA* 600/4 to raise money for a package of 645 optics that
emerged on a Norwegian forum:

645N camera house
645FA 45/2.8
645FA 75/2.8
645FA 120/4 macro
645FA* 300/4
645FA 400/5.6
LowePro SuperTrekker

The price matched what I got from the sale, so in balance I believe I
made a bargain. Even if it was tough to see the 600 leave the
household.

I don't plan to hold on to everything in the 645 package. I have to
ruminate a little on exactly what to keep, but the 645N and the 75/2.8
will be put up for sale shortly. Contact me off list if interested.

Jostein

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RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my
 all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all...
 
 Boris

Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world.

kris

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Re: sometimes being good isn't good ;)

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/3/2011 15:40, Cory Waters wrote:

But, of course, LBA is strong.

The 60-250 calls.
But it might be the 55-300 that answers.


Boris is trying to copy the hand motion of Ben Kenobi when Ben and Luke 
were visiting the Mos Eisley for the first time...


Boris is looking at you intently and chanting: You don't need 60-250. 
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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Rob Studdert
On 5 April 2011 17:56, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 I cannot possibly disagree that QC does not appear improving over the years,
 but then so does the complexity of the cameras. I don't think you could
 outright deny that other manufacturers are completely trouble free too.

 Yet I certainly can relate to your frustration. These things are certainly
 not peanuts.

Where this argument falls flat is that the vast majority of the
problems reported, ie wonky mirrors, sticky buttons, failing rotary
actuators, motors/gears/clutches in lenses, spots on sensors are all
generally of mechanical nature. None of these issues are involve
significantly more complex systems than Pentax used to be able to
execute so successfully prior to their foray into DSLR production.

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Re: Quite an LX kit...

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
Now I know how to offer my collection of LX's and kit. WOW!


On Apr 4, 2011, at 08:09 , Darren Addy wrote:

 Now that the auction is over, I thought I would post this for those
 that didn't see it:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/Pentax-LX-SLR-Film-Camera-Collection-/230601513108?pt=Film_Camerashash=item35b0ebd894#ht_4096wt_1039
 or
 http://bit.ly/hrMVqV

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

 This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my
 all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all...
 
 Boris
 
 Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything 
 world.

Welcome to the PDML where clarity of vision is more important than clarity of 
photos.

 
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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 10:59, AlunFoto wrote:

Sometimes one has to forgo precious posessions to acquire others. I
just sold my FA* 600/4 to raise money for a package of 645 optics that
emerged on a Norwegian forum:

645N camera house
645FA 45/2.8
645FA 75/2.8
645FA 120/4 macro
645FA* 300/4
645FA 400/5.6
LowePro SuperTrekker


Odd, I thought that at least 75, 120 and 300 you had in your other 
rucksack when we visited you... But I digress...


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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 11:06, Rob Studdert wrote:

Where this argument falls flat is that the vast majority of the
problems reported, ie wonky mirrors, sticky buttons, failing rotary
actuators, motors/gears/clutches in lenses, spots on sensors are all
generally of mechanical nature. None of these issues are involve
significantly more complex systems than Pentax used to be able to
execute so successfully prior to their foray into DSLR production.


Well, Rob, it is correct what you say but consider these points:

* K7 and consequently K5 offer both faster shutters and more silent 
mirror mechanisms. Although falling under same mechanical category for 
most part, these are new features.


* I don't know what kind of complexity, especially with regard to 
manufacturing mechanical tolerances, is introduced by 100% viewfinder.


* Pentax like everyone is still about reducing manufacturing costs... It 
has to be factored in to the equation.


But I certainly agree that things such as buttons or control wheels all 
should function 120% perfect.


Finally, sad as it is, and as dead as any other dead horse over here, 
the fact that Pentax is no longer Pentax, but rather Hoya-Pentax has to 
be considered as well.


Again, I am not offering excuses and quite sorry ones at that. I am 
offering an explanation as to why this is all may be happening...


Boris


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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world.

kris


Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens...

By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could 
have stayed with.


Boris


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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
As I said, some stuff will be sold off again.
The 120mm and 300 you saw in my bag are manual focus, so they're more
likely candidates. You also saw an A-45/2.8 that I sold a couple of
years ago.

Interesting to see how your memory works, Boris. :-)

Wanna buy a 645N?

Jostein

2011/4/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 On 4/5/2011 10:59, AlunFoto wrote:

 Sometimes one has to forgo precious posessions to acquire others. I
 just sold my FA* 600/4 to raise money for a package of 645 optics that
 emerged on a Norwegian forum:

 645N camera house
 645FA 45/2.8
 645FA 75/2.8
 645FA 120/4 macro
 645FA* 300/4
 645FA 400/5.6
 LowePro SuperTrekker

 Odd, I thought that at least 75, 120 and 300 you had in your other
 rucksack when we visited you... But I digress...

 Boris

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Re: Choosing long telephoto lens

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 4, 2011, at 11:39 , Theodore Beilby wrote:

 Most of my aircraft in flight shots were taken with my F 100 - 300 hand held. 
 Those of you who know me know that I have very shaky hands. Sometimes, I hang 
 my 
 monopod under the camera. I do this with the head locks loose so the monopod 
 is 
 free to swing if I want to go to portrait orientation. I do not extend the 
 leg, 
 it is just there for mass to overcome the tendency for the camera to be 
 moved. 
 It seems to help me be more steady but does get some strange looks from other 
 photographers. I don't know if anyone has ever used this technique before but 
 I 
 have used it this way many times. 

I've tried that, but the combination of weights tires one quickly.

The lightest anti-shake trick I've used was something I read long ago in some 
photo magazine. Buy yourself a 1/4 20 eye bolt, the shortest thread length you 
can find (not important, just neater) and tie eight feet of most any kind of 
heavyweight string to the bolt. Put the string in your pocket  Mount that bolt 
on your camera's tripod socket. When you are ready to shoot something that 
needs that steadying, pull the string out of your pocket and drop it on the 
ground. Hold the camera a bit lower of where you usually do. Step on the 
string, raise the camera so there is some, but not much, tension on the string, 
and shoot! That little bit of tug can overcome at least some of the 
photographer's unsteadiness. And it weighs nothing. There are a couple in my 
bag all the time.


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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:

 But I certainly agree that things such as buttons or control wheels all
 should function 120% perfect.

...which they patently don't. The troubles aren't with 100% mirrors or
other complex features but with the most basic knobs and buttons. 

Their trigger button problems go back as far as my Program A and P50
of... well... when? 20 years ago or is it even more?

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
 Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything 
 world.
 
 kris
 
 Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens...
 
 By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could have 
 stayed with.

By filters do you mean physical filters?  

Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something that could be 
done trivially easily in digital post processing.


 
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morning HOYA fix

2011-04-05 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
Some years ago I bought a coffee pot by eva solo 
(http://www.evasolo.com/productinfo/567590/), its life was short in a house 
with kids and a cat but the metal/rubber parts survived the fall so I have been 
using those with a bottle of plum wine wrapped in a towel ever since. Those 
break too but are easy (and pleasant) to replace. Usually I have been washing 
off all the labels but haven't done it this time. So every morning when I rinse 
it I am greeted with this:
http://foto.ri-ki.lv/details.php?image_id=37

kris

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Re: RE-35 flexisensor

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 4, 2011, at 13:34 , John Sessoms wrote:

 From: David Parsons
 
 Have you ever seen a digital back?  They are at least an inch thick.
 It's certainly possible to do, but I can't imagine any way that it
 would economical.  Would you pay a couple thousand dollars to use an
 old film camera worth $20 (or even $200)?
 
 What do you do with cameras that don't have removable backs?  How to
 you bypass the camera winder interlock when it is in a different place
 on different cameras?
 
 
 If they could actually make this flexisensor thingy work and bring the price 
 down to where it didn't cost much more than a high end memory card, I'd buy 
 one for my LX.

Probably wouldn't be too hard to replace the spring loaded platen on one of my 
LX Digital or Analog Dial Data backs with a FF sensor, and cram the electronics 
into the fairly large battery and clock box. Expand the Dial Data Back's 
compartment to cover the whole back if need be, Use the power from the motor 
drive's battery pack.

Piece of cake!


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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote:

 On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
 Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything 
 world.
 
 kris
 
 Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens...
 
 By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could have 
 stayed with.
 
 By filters do you mean physical filters?  
 
 Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something that could 
 be done trivially easily in digital post processing.


But, the 85 Soft does not diminish the sharpness of the photo. It merely 
provides varying degrees of 'fog' around the sharp image.


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Re: 7 news tomorrow night for Aussies...

2011-04-05 Thread Peter McIntosh
Foxtel IQ has been programmed... :-)

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne

On 5 April 2011 16:11, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Awesome update everyone!  I am going to be on 7 news tomorrow night to talk
 about The Constellations Project!

 Me and my trusty K7 will be walking around Grantham working and showing
 what the project is all about!  They are promoting it tonight during
 Winners and Losers so keep your eyes peeled.j

 Not sure if it will be national or just Queensland, but keep an eye out
 regardless!

 Tan.x.

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:

 
 On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:
 Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything 
 world.
 
 kris
 
 Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens...
 
 By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could have 
 stayed with.
 
 By filters do you mean physical filters?  
 
 Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something that could 
 be done trivially easily in digital post processing.
 
 
 But, the 85 Soft does not diminish the sharpness of the photo. It merely 
 provides varying degrees of 'fog' around the sharp image.

All of my digital signal processing classes were nearly 30 years ago, so I 
don't have the mathematical chops to do it today, but that's still just a 
simple 2-d transform, possibly using a high pass filter for edge detection.

 
 
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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 11:37, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:

...which they patently don't. The troubles aren't with 100% mirrors or
other complex features but with the most basic knobs and buttons.

Their trigger button problems go back as far as my Program A and P50
of... well... when? 20 years ago or is it even more?


Makes me feel particularly young...

Seriously however, I haven't yet experienced any significant mechanical 
failure of any of 4 DSLRs that I have/had... But it does not mean that 
they are faultless.


Boris


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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 11:26, AlunFoto wrote:

As I said, some stuff will be sold off again.
The 120mm and 300 you saw in my bag are manual focus, so they're more
likely candidates. You also saw an A-45/2.8 that I sold a couple of
years ago.

Interesting to see how your memory works, Boris. :-)

Wanna buy a 645N?

Jostein


No, thank you... I don't think I can afford what will inevitably come 
after that...


My memory works in most peculiar ways, I am aware of that...

Boris

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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:58 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/5/2011 11:37, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote:
 ...which they patently don't. The troubles aren't with 100% mirrors or
 other complex features but with the most basic knobs and buttons.
 
 Their trigger button problems go back as far as my Program A and P50
 of... well... when? 20 years ago or is it even more?
 
 Makes me feel particularly young...
 
 Seriously however, I haven't yet experienced any significant mechanical 
 failure of any of 4 DSLRs that I have/had... But it does not mean that they 
 are faultless.

Most of the problems I've had were with a piece of equipment made slightly over 
50 years ago, and came without a warranty.  

 
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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:26 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 As I said, some stuff will be sold off again.
 The 120mm and 300 you saw in my bag are manual focus, so they're more
 likely candidates. You also saw an A-45/2.8 that I sold a couple of
 years ago.
 
 Interesting to see how your memory works, Boris. :-)
 
 Wanna buy a 645N?

I'd love to. But I can't, and won't.
 

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 11:38, Larry Colen wrote:

By filters do you mean physical filters?

Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something
that could be done trivially easily in digital post processing.


Yes, exactly that, pieces of material that you put in front of the lens.

I think that you overestimate the artistic value of digital post 
processing, especially high pass filters and 2D transforms...


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Re: Why do you shoot?

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

Taking another go on the subject.

Just recently I've been reviewing my pictures from some years ago. 
Notably, in 2005 Jostein came here and we drove to the forests new Haifa 
University. I think the place is called Little Switzerland or 
something like this. Last autumn we had devastating fire that 
practically turned this place and many others to ashes. Suddenly my 
pictures gather additional emotional value that I couldn't possibly have 
thought of 6 years ago.


Boris

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Re: OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/1/2011 14:31, Bob W wrote:

vegans won't be able to use plastics made from feathers. This may not be
easy to identify.

B


Heck, this is far more complex and frustrating that rules of kosher...

Boris


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reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
I think that the first I heard of PPG was on the DPR Pentax SLR forum with 
people either bemoaning photos that had been rejected, or celebrating photos 
that had been accepted.  The consensus seemed to be that voting on PPG was done 
by simpletons with a strong preference for cliche, and vivid colors. Or 
something like that.

I was finally able to submit some more photos, after which I decided to do some 
voting. If the voting on PPG is done by simpletons who love cliche, then it's 
because they are the only people whose brains wouldn't turn to soggy gruel by 
looking at the entries.  In half an hour I looked at more flower pictures on 
PPG than I have in two years of reading PDML. And if it's not a flower, dear 
God, it's a building. A large, majestic building, perfectly centered in the 
frame, or a wide angle view of a magnificent interior, replete with a baroque 
domed ceiling.

Almost every one of those pictures is technically perfect, taken with few flaws 
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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 13:28, Larry Colen wrote:

Almost every one of those pictures is technically perfect, taken with
few flaws and less imagination.


You gotta be having a bad luck streak, Larry. Albeit not all of them, 
but routinely I find about 10% of shots from my PPG voting stream to be 
very good to excellent.


In fact, I quite like voting for PPG. Call me absent minded cliche 
loving simpleton if you wish -- this is not serious.


Boris

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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
did I mention that beside a place in my heart you also have one on my hate list?
enjoy
Ecke

2011/4/5 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com:
 Sometimes one has to forgo precious posessions to acquire others. I
 just sold my FA* 600/4 to raise money for a package of 645 optics that
 emerged on a Norwegian forum:

 645N camera house
 645FA 45/2.8
 645FA 75/2.8
 645FA 120/4 macro
 645FA* 300/4
 645FA 400/5.6
 LowePro SuperTrekker

 The price matched what I got from the sale, so in balance I believe I
 made a bargain. Even if it was tough to see the 600 leave the
 household.

 I don't plan to hold on to everything in the 645 package. I have to
 ruminate a little on exactly what to keep, but the 645N and the 75/2.8
 will be put up for sale shortly. Contact me off list if interested.

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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

Did I forget to mention the vignette effects?

On Apr 5, 2011, at 3:31 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/5/2011 13:28, Larry Colen wrote:
 Almost every one of those pictures is technically perfect, taken with
 few flaws and less imagination.
 
 You gotta be having a bad luck streak, Larry. Albeit not all of them, but 
 routinely I find about 10% of shots from my PPG voting stream to be very good 
 to excellent.

There are quite a lot of excellent photos, that all pretty much look alike.  
There are definitely a few keepers in there. And, almost all of them, taken on 
their own merits are very good to excellent. It's just that so many of them are 
so similar.  

Interestingly I've seen about five different pictures of airplanes with smoke 
trails titled sky.

 
 In fact, I quite like voting for PPG. Call me absent minded cliche loving 
 simpleton if you wish -- this is not serious.

:-)

 
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Re: OT: Life becomes interesting for vegans

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
2011/4/1 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com:
 I can see it now.  All the health food stores will be advertising
 100% all natural vegan polyethylene.

maybe. but I've yet to see a vegan eat polyethylene.

on the other hand who says the oil used to make their plastic now is fauna free?

imho using something that would otherwise be disposed of is good. no
matter what.

plus by not eating chicken vegans for all practical purposes make sure
no feathers are plucked on their behalf. hence at least until chickens
are raised for plastic and their meat is disposed of, plastic will
still be ethically safe for vegans. of course this is non-vegan
opinion so YVMMV (your vegan mileage may vary)

cheers
ecke

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Re: I was amused to see this ad on facebook

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
2011/4/5 Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm:

 So, would that be a Penton or a Cantax?

A Pentax with a Canoprism instead of the usual Canon with a pentaprism
of course.

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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
 Most of the problems I've had were with a piece of equipment made slightly 
 over 50 years ago, and came without a warranty.

one that can be made in minutes by cheap unskilled labor? well what do
you expect?

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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 13:37, eckinator wrote:

did I mention that beside a place in my heart you also have one on my hate list?
enjoy
Ecke


Like you apparently have two hearts - one for love and one for hate... 
So then, Ecke, sir, you're not an earthling, but rather a time lord from 
that planet, what is its name again?


Boris

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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
2011/4/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 Like you apparently have two hearts - one for love and one for hate... So
 then, Ecke, sir, you're not an earthling, but rather a time lord from that
 planet, what is its name again?

Boris, my friend it is much simpler than that. my heart is the duct
tape that holds together the bright side and the dark side of the
force. or the universe? metaphorically speaking anyway =)

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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 3:49 AM, eckinator wrote:

 Most of the problems I've had were with a piece of equipment made slightly 
 over 50 years ago, and came without a warranty.
 
 one that can be made in minutes by cheap unskilled labor?

By my calculations it was about 380,000 minutes, though only about the last day 
of the process is usually referred to as labor.  I do expect that while the 
initial assembly likely took less than an hour, the technicians involved may 
object to the term unskilled.

 well what do
 you expect?
 
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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
2011/4/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 By my calculations it was about 380,000 minutes, though only about the last 
 day of the process is usually referred to as labor.  I do expect that while 
 the initial assembly likely took less than an hour, the technicians involved 
 may object to the term unskilled.

by initial assembly you mean rod and barrel injection molding? if that
takes less than an hour, unskilled is the word for it =P

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Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs

2011-04-05 Thread eckinator
2011/4/4 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:

 But do you have those 'Blad lenses, Bulent?

if I am not mistaken, blad means something not so pleasant in russian.
pun intended, gospodin liberman?

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Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-05 Thread Thibouille
I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
care about price.
Those things are usually very pricey.

I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.

If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)

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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen

On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:14 AM, eckinator wrote:

 2011/4/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:
 
 By my calculations it was about 380,000 minutes, though only about the last 
 day of the process is usually referred to as labor.  I do expect that while 
 the initial assembly likely took less than an hour, the technicians involved 
 may object to the term unskilled.
 
 by initial assembly you mean rod and barrel injection molding? if that
 takes less than an hour, unskilled is the word for it =P

I have never discussed that aspect of the process with them.  As to the rest, I 
was only in the factory once, it was quite dark, and being very young at the 
time, I don't really remember any of it.


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Re: Hasselblad lenses on Pentax DSLRs

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 14:16, eckinator wrote:

2011/4/4 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com:


But do you have those 'Blad lenses, Bulent?


if I am not mistaken, blad means something not so pleasant in russian.
pun intended, gospodin liberman?


Nope, the word you might be thinking of is different and absolutely no 
pun was intended.


Boris

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My humble submission to Larry's Scavenger Hunt

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Cavengerhunts/Larrys-Scavenger-Hunt/16469794_YC8zm#1239410613_xVTE6

I actually sent this yesterday.  Another post lost in the wilds of pdml.com

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-04-05 5:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:


On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote:


On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:


On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world.

kris

Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens...

By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could have 
stayed with.

By filters do you mean physical filters?

Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something that could be 
done trivially easily in digital post processing.


But, the 85 Soft does not diminish the sharpness of the photo. It merely 
provides varying degrees of 'fog' around the sharp image.

All of my digital signal processing classes were nearly 30 years ago, so I 
don't have the mathematical chops to do it today, but that's still just a 
simple 2-d transform, possibly using a high pass filter for edge detection.


Two points about that.

The lens does a 3D transform.  By the time you get the image, the sensor 
has removed the directional information and all you get to work with is 
a 2D plane with colour and luminance information. All spatial info is lost.


If *all* the information available from the light was recorded by the 
sensor, you could do away with the lens entirely. You could simply 
expose the sensor through the empty lens mount and recreate the scene 
later with digital signal processing. (I read of some recent research 
work to do just that.)


So there's stuff going on in glass-space that you simply cannot 
replicate in post-processing.


But the second point is that you can do a pretty good PP fake of this 
soft lens effect. The Orton effect isn't identical, but looks quite similar.


-bmw

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Re: My humble submission to Larry's Scavenger Hunt

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
And as you can see, I took Ann's comment as a bit more of a joke than
she meant it ;-)

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 http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Cavengerhunts/Larrys-Scavenger-Hunt/16469794_YC8zm#1239410613_xVTE6

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Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
You know, the from line in Gmail was appearing as Christ. ..
Christ.  I knew the Almighty shot Pentax.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:46 PM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 See what you mean about distracting backgrounds, Ken.  Just having a little
 fun with framing.  Thanks for the feedback!  Cheers, Christine


 - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com
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 Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 5:18 PM
 Subject: Re: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso


 In the first capture focus  exposure wise it appears you got it, but the
 two boarders don't work for me. A variation of the action boarder alone
 would be more appealing IMO.

 The second  last capture have a somewhat distracting background for me.

 The third one is better, but I wish he was more to the leaft against a
 simplier background.

 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

 - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila
 cagu...@earthlink.net
 Subject: PAW--Week 13-Skateboarding on the Picasso


 These kids were cute.
 http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/

 4 shot gallery--check out #2
 http://www.caguila.com/caguila/k5testskateboard/

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Re: My humble submission to Larry's Scavenger Hunt

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-04-05 8:12 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Cavengerhunts/Larrys-Scavenger-Hunt/16469794_YC8zm#1239410613_xVTE6

I actually sent this yesterday.  Another post lost in the wilds of pdml.com


Great shots, Steve. I especially enjoyed your Frank-style grab. With 
that you have earned the right to sign your shots Nevets.  :)


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Re: PESO: Stadium Sun

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-04-05 1:13 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

Lots of wires! 
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/04/04/-big/IMG_0535.jpg.html

-T


I like the effect, Tim. Nice!  My only issue is I think t'would be 
improved without the cloud URC.


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OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Walter Hamler
http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB

Let the fun begin!!

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Re: Tilt-shift lenses or adaptors

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
Lensbabies?

2011/4/5 Thibouille pentaxl...@gmail.com:
 I'm looking into getting a T/S lens.
 I don't care much if not Pentax or if I need an adaptor. However I
 care about price.
 Those things are usually very pricey.

 I might even accept a Canon lens, if it is what I need to get
 Tilt/shift. I know Pentax only did a Shift but no tilt.

 If anybody has an 'affordable' way of doing this, please speak ;)

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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 16:26, Walter Hamler wrote:

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB

Let the fun begin!!

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RE: PUG - Kodachrome Memories Fading Fast

2011-04-05 Thread Malcolm Smith
 P. J. Alling wrote:

 I wish I could come up with a good Kodachrome slide image; but every
 thing is in storage, or the K25 plugin I found didn't produce crap.

I thought I'd have no end of choice for this a few weeks back, but it was
dependent on winning a bid (yet another attempt) on a Nikon Coolscan, which
I lost. I've lost a couple more since. I think I got my Manfrotto tripod on
the 32nd auction I bid in. One of these days, one will come up within budget
and I will have many hours of capturing slides digitally.

I'll be a spectator of the PUG this month.

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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
I remember voting over images that looked very much like a bulk upload
of holiday snaps. That was before the weekly limit was introduced.
However I still find that the type of pictures submitted has a
distinct seasonal flavour. Tuned to the Northern hemisphere, for most
part. So right now it's spring flowers. In a month it'll be birds. In
September it's travel shots, and in October there are autumn colours
to thirteen by the dozen.

It could be a subission strategy, I suppose, to stay a bit ahead of
the game by submitting seasonal pictures from last year just before
the season starts.

Jostein

2011/4/5 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com:

 Did I forget to mention the vignette effects?

 On Apr 5, 2011, at 3:31 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 On 4/5/2011 13:28, Larry Colen wrote:
 Almost every one of those pictures is technically perfect, taken with
 few flaws and less imagination.

 You gotta be having a bad luck streak, Larry. Albeit not all of them, but 
 routinely I find about 10% of shots from my PPG voting stream to be very 
 good to excellent.

 There are quite a lot of excellent photos, that all pretty much look alike.  
 There are definitely a few keepers in there. And, almost all of them, taken 
 on their own merits are very good to excellent. It's just that so many of 
 them are so similar.

 Interestingly I've seen about five different pictures of airplanes with smoke 
 trails titled sky.


 In fact, I quite like voting for PPG. Call me absent minded cliche loving 
 simpleton if you wish -- this is not serious.

 :-)


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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
*YAY*
Congrats, Walt.
Jostein

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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Paul Sorenson

Congratulations!!  Best wishes to all.

-p

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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
You are very diciplined and not sentimental about your equipment.
If I had the big digital, I might sell the FA* 600/4 too.
Did it go to a good home?
Regards,  Bob S.

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 Sometimes one has to forgo precious posessions to acquire others. I
 just sold my FA* 600/4 to raise money for a package of 645 optics that
 emerged on a Norwegian forum:

 645N camera house
 645FA 45/2.8
 645FA 75/2.8
 645FA 120/4 macro
 645FA* 300/4
 645FA 400/5.6
 LowePro SuperTrekker

 The price matched what I got from the sale, so in balance I believe I
 made a bargain. Even if it was tough to see the 600 leave the
 household.

 I don't plan to hold on to everything in the 645 package. I have to
 ruminate a little on exactly what to keep, but the 645N and the 75/2.8
 will be put up for sale shortly. Contact me off list if interested.

 Jostein

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Re: Nooks and Crannies [K-5 + DA15, FA*24, FA31]

2011-04-05 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
My favorite is the Urban Disconnect.  A fine shot with a strong sense
of place and mood.

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On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/4/2011 22:47, Andrew Allen wrote:

 Hi Pentaxians

 Here is a recent street series photographed primarily in urban St.
 Louis with three of my favorite lenses - and of course my favorite
 camera, the K-5.  Comments/questions welcome.

 http://andrewallenphoto.com/p379560305

 -Andy

 The urban disconnect is fantastic. The last one I am not certain I
 understand correctly or completely. The rest are good but I've seen similar
 photos from you before. Without disrespect, Andy, I'd rather see more photos
 like The urban disconnect than those of urban decay.

 Offered merely as an opinion.

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Re: PAW week 12 catch-up

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/27/2011 19:51, Christine Aguila wrote:

I'm at week 12, but didn't post weeks 9, 10, 11,  12 to the list. Not
great stuff, but despite being sick, I kept up. I did try for the
Perigee-Super-Moon (week 11). Darrel  I went to Montrose Beach area.
The shots are really more landscapey than moony. Nothing great, but I
was there for the try :-). Just posting for the record. I'm glad I'm
doing this, but it's not easy. Sometimes come Saturday I haven't taken a
shot, and I start thinking about some new pose I can try to get Darrel
to agree to. I actually might try for a self-portrait for next week--if
nothing interesting finds its way into my camera. Cheers, Christine

http://aguilapaw.posterous.com/


If you hadn't have told, I couldn't possibly imagine that you were being 
sick taking these pictures. Nothing really to fault.


Just be sure not to repeat the flu experience, Christine.

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Re: PESO - Balconies

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/29/2011 04:18, Rick Womer wrote:

Another from Paris.  I love the combination of stone facades, wrought iron 
balconies, and flowers.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12868902size=lg

(K7, DA 50-200)

Rick



Remind me to take you to some somewhat similar 'hoods of Tel Aviv if you 
get to cross the waters...


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Re: Fishing...

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/29/2011 09:25, Bulent Celasun wrote:

... really!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12879576size=md


Bulent


No kiddin' :-). Sorry Bob, I had to use a smiley.

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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 16:37, AlunFoto wrote:

It could be a subission strategy, I suppose, to stay a bit ahead of
the game by submitting seasonal pictures from last year just before
the season starts.

Jostein


Now you spoiled it completely. Remember, we have a list archive that is 
public on the internet...


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Re: Spring

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 3/28/2011 18:51, John Sessoms wrote:

INSTALLING SPRING...
░
33% DONE. Install delayedplease wait.
Installation failed. Please try again.


Thankfully, we're having yet another front of rain here...

Boris (from the land of BIOS, in a manner of speaking)

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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Walt,
Good for you and congratulations to the parents!
We envy you.
Regards,  Bob  Lynn S.

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote:

Two points about that.

The lens does a 3D transform.  By the time you get the image, the sensor 
has removed the directional information and all you get to work with is 
a 2D plane with colour and luminance information. All spatial info is lost.

If *all* the information available from the light was recorded by the 
sensor, you could do away with the lens entirely. You could simply 
expose the sensor through the empty lens mount and recreate the scene 
later with digital signal processing. (I read of some recent research 
work to do just that.)

So there's stuff going on in glass-space that you simply cannot 
replicate in post-processing.

But the second point is that you can do a pretty good PP fake of this 
soft lens effect. The Orton effect isn't identical, but looks quite similar.

I think the 85 Soft is one of those lenses deliberately designed with
a lot of spherical aberration, which does strike me as something that
would be very difficult to recreate in software.

I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for
Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two.
 
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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman

On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote:

I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for
Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two.


Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most 
thankful for the recipe.


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RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
 On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote:
  I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for
  Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two.
 
 Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most
 thankful for the recipe.
 
 Boris

Damn you all and I only just unpacked the thing... :)

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Re: I think it's a cell phone advertisement.

2011-04-05 Thread Igor Roshchin

Tue Apr 5 02:30:59 CDT 2011 Larry Colen wrote:

 On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:01 PM, William Robb wrote:
 
  On 04/04/2011 10:52 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
  Wanna share?
  
  On 4/4/2011 11:42 PM, William Robb wrote:
  Whatever it is, I found it quite wonderful.
  
  
  
  
  Damn. I hate it when I do that..
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CDLBTJD4M
 
 Was the music Bach?

Bach's Cantata 147, Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/mesmerizing-touch-wood-sh-08c-ad-showcases-japans-beauty-manki/


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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Walter Hamler
Yes, that's the Gramps!  My wife, Margaret and Bryson Nicolos.
He was born Sun, 4-3, to my son, Nathan, and his bride, Nicole, in S
FL. We were there for the delivery.
All are well!

Walt

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 4/5/2011 16:26, Walter Hamler wrote:


 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB

 Let the fun begin!!

 Walt


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Re: Spring

2011-04-05 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
John,

I borrowed that nice text/graph for Facebook.
I trust you don't have a copyright on it. :-)

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Jack Davis
Welcome! Enjoy the ride, but fasten your seat belts!!

Jack

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 Subject: OT: We are Grandparents!!
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 http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB
 
 Let the fun begin!!
 
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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Excellent.  I hear grandchildren are more fun than children.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Welcome! Enjoy the ride, but fasten your seat belts!!

 Jack

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 From: Walter Hamler hamlerwal...@gmail.com
 Subject: OT: We are Grandparents!!
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
2011/4/5 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jostein,
 You are very diciplined and not sentimental about your equipment.
 If I had the big digital, I might sell the FA* 600/4 too.
 Did it go to a good home?

I think it ended up in the best of hands. The same guy once bought my
FA*28-70/2.8. We shared hide at a eagle photography site for a couple
of days two years ago, too. Nice bloke.

Jostein

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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Excellent.  I hear grandchildren are more fun than children.

And, symmetrically, grandparents are more fun than parents.

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Re: I think it's a cell phone advertisement.

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Thanks Bill.  That was great.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Tue Apr 5 02:30:59 CDT 2011 Larry Colen wrote:

 On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:01 PM, William Robb wrote:

  On 04/04/2011 10:52 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
  Wanna share?
 
  On 4/4/2011 11:42 PM, William Robb wrote:
  Whatever it is, I found it quite wonderful.
 
 
 
 
  Damn. I hate it when I do that..
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CDLBTJD4M

 Was the music Bach?

 Bach's Cantata 147, Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring.

 http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/31/mesmerizing-touch-wood-sh-08c-ad-showcases-japans-beauty-manki/


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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
2011/4/5 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:
 On 4/5/2011 16:37, AlunFoto wrote:

 It could be a subission strategy, I suppose, to stay a bit ahead of
 the game by submitting seasonal pictures from last year just before
 the season starts.

 Jostein

 Now you spoiled it completely. Remember, we have a list archive that is
 public on the internet...

Nah. It requires a year's worth of dicipline. In these days of
chimping, who cares to wait that long for acknowlegdement of their
images? :-)

Jostein


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Re: More Pentax quality grief

2011-04-05 Thread steve harley

On 2011-04-05 05:09 , Larry Colen wrote:

By my calculations it was about 380,000 minutes, though only about the last day of the 
process is usually referred to as labor.  I do expect that while the initial assembly 
likely took less than an hour, the technicians involved may object to the term 
unskilled.


however the process for building the factory was developed by trial and 
error after 7500 attempts (counting H. sapiens only)


and most of us still have problems with our buttons being pushed

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Re: Fishing...

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
Actually, they used to use that method up in Rhode Island to put
someone into the lake.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 3/29/2011 09:25, Bulent Celasun wrote:

 ... really!

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=12879576size=md


 Bulent

 No kiddin' :-). Sorry Bob, I had to use a smiley.

 Boris

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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jostein,
Speaking of an eagle hide, you might enjoy this live feed.
Two eaglets hatched, one egg still there.
http://www.raptorresource.org/falcon_cams/
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:11 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/4/5 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jostein,
 You are very diciplined and not sentimental about your equipment.
 If I had the big digital, I might sell the FA* 600/4 too.
 Did it go to a good home?

 I think it ended up in the best of hands. The same guy once bought my
 FA*28-70/2.8. We shared hide at a eagle photography site for a couple
 of days two years ago, too. Nice bloke.

 Jostein

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Re: No Umbrella, No Galoshes

2011-04-05 Thread Walter Gilbert

Thanks, Christine -- and all else who looked and commented.

I went ahead and loosened up that crop for composition and I think you 
all were right.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5592638186/

Thanks again for the input!

-- Walt

On 4/4/2011 10:59 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Pretty colors, great detail, and nice bokeh, Walt.  Very nice!  
Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO: No Umbrella, No Galoshes



 Hi all,

Potential cliche hazard ahead!  (Yet another damn bird photo.)  I 
just thought it was amusing and hope someone else will, too.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5587610276/

Comments and suggestions welcome.  I wear your scorn like silken robes.

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Re: No Umbrella, No Galoshes

2011-04-05 Thread steve harley

On 2011-04-05 09:56 , Walter Gilbert wrote:

I went ahead and loosened up that crop for composition and I think you
all were right.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/5592638186/


sweet!

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Re: Spring

2011-04-05 Thread steve harley

On 2011-03-28 11:18 , frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com  wrote:

INSTALLING SPRING...
░
33% DONE. Install delayedplease wait.
Installation failed. Please try again.


Must be a Microsoft program.  It's not installing up here, either.


spring installed an SSD and booted up faster than normal here in Denver; 
fire season is year round here now too


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Re: en- dis-ablement, and maybe some FS

2011-04-05 Thread AlunFoto
2011/4/5 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com:
 Jostein,
 Speaking of an eagle hide, you might enjoy this live feed.
 Two eaglets hatched, one egg still there.
 http://www.raptorresource.org/falcon_cams/

That's interesting, thanks for posting.
Jostein

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 08:13:58AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 
 If *all* the information available from the light was recorded by
 the sensor, you could do away with the lens entirely. You could
 simply expose the sensor through the empty lens mount and recreate
 the scene later with digital signal processing. (I read of some
 recent research work to do just that.)

I've seen a presentation on it by the people doing the research.
Well, they still use a primary lens, but the sensor does all sorts
of other things with microlenses, etc.

It's moderately impressive.  But there's a tradeoff; there are
only so many bits of information you can capture on any sensor.
If you are using some of them to be able to recreate images in
post processing, you have to give up something in exchange.
You can recreate some of the 'lost' information (much as is
done nowadays with Bayer sensor arrays), but not all of it.

And you're still limited to what comes in through the front
element. So while you can get some amount of distance and 3-D
information to allow a shift of viewpoint by seeing what is
different from one side of the lens to the other, you obviously
can't record information on anything that is totally obscured
by something between it and the camera.


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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Walter Gilbert

 How utterly great!  Congratulations, Walt!

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On 4/5/2011 8:26 AM, Walter Hamler wrote:

http://walthamler.smugmug.com/Photography/Micro-Four-Thirds-Gallery/16211247_u3uwa#1240778972_X2KTU-L-LB

Let the fun begin!!

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Re: I think it's a cell phone advertisement.

2011-04-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

I loved it and I didn' think I would.. (o dear, no pun intended that time)

ann

William Robb wrote:


On 04/04/2011 10:52 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote:


Wanna share?

On 4/4/2011 11:42 PM, William Robb wrote:


Whatever it is, I found it quite wonderful.






Damn. I hate it when I do that..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_CDLBTJD4M





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PESO 2011 - 051 - GDG

2011-04-05 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
A new PESO ... more in the 2011 Guadalupe River Park landscape series, a 
little break from Communicating ... 

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5592762804/lightbox/
or 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5592762804/

Thanks for looking, comments always appreciated. 

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Re: scavenger photos

2011-04-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I guess the pussycat is the cliche/local  
and the last one is Knarf?


The Eye has it

ann

steve harley wrote:


all local (3 are domestic), two taken today, all taken in last 5 days


http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/3510446/1/scavenger%2020110404?h=4ea1cb

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Re: scavenger photos

2011-04-05 Thread steve harley

On 2011-04-05 10:51 , Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I guess the pussycat is the cliche/local and the last one is Knarf?



well all are local, the first three are within 30 feet of each other at 
my home; and yes the two cats are an attempt at cliché


last one is a take-off on Godfrey's communicating series, but i forgot 
to vignette it (it also has an eye)


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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:04:34 +0300, you wrote:

On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote:
 I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for
 Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two.

Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most 
thankful for the recipe.

No way. It requires multiple layers.

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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:06, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Excellent.  I hear grandchildren are more fun than children.
 

I can corroborate this.  here, he smells funny and away he goes to Mom and 
Dad for a quick change!  You can't get away with that with your OWN kids.

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Re: reviewing pictures on PPG

2011-04-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

wow - I disagree about the voting process...
There are a lot of competent things that are boring, but enough 
spectacularly good stuff to make it interesting.  
I have to say that I've been brutal though, when it came to photos 
submitted by anyone who needed to expound on the beauty of their own
work. gag me with a spoon - or gushing over the lenses.  

Every now and then there is really outstanding stuff and I only regret 
that I don't know whose work it is - unless, by chance,
I recognize the work as that of someone I know and have already admired.  

They ask us to note categories when we submit, but I've yet to find a 
way from the main page to search by category or subject -
and I'd like to.  

I share Bob's frustration at the way the site is set up...  

I've just noted yesterday that I now have 10 accepted... two of which 
(sorry Larry) are flowers ;-)


ann

Larry Colen wrote:


I think that the first I heard of PPG was on the DPR Pentax SLR forum with 
people either bemoaning photos that had been rejected, or celebrating photos 
that had been accepted.  The consensus seemed to be that voting on PPG was done 
by simpletons with a strong preference for cliche, and vivid colors. Or 
something like that.

I was finally able to submit some more photos, after which I decided to do some 
voting. If the voting on PPG is done by simpletons who love cliche, then it's 
because they are the only people whose brains wouldn't turn to soggy gruel by 
looking at the entries.  In half an hour I looked at more flower pictures on 
PPG than I have in two years of reading PDML. And if it's not a flower, dear 
God, it's a building. A large, majestic building, perfectly centered in the 
frame, or a wide angle view of a magnificent interior, replete with a baroque 
domed ceiling.

Almost every one of those pictures is technically perfect, taken with few flaws 
and less imagination.

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Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Keith Whaley

Krisjanis Linkevics wrote:

This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my
all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all...

Boris



Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world.

kris



How about the Soft = blurry world?

IMMHO, if 'soft' is what everybody calls that lens, I'll stay away from it.

Used to be, my eyes saw the world that way. I gladly paid a fair amount of 
money to CORRECT that deficiency.


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Re: My humble submission to Larry's Scavenger Hunt

2011-04-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Dear Humble
The eyes have it here too...
I actually think the one you call Knarfish is more  Stenquestian - 
nicely done.


Well and you know my opinion of Disneyland  (hope we don't  have to get 
divorced)


ann

Steven Desjardins wrote:


http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Cavengerhunts/Larrys-Scavenger-Hunt/16469794_YC8zm#1239410613_xVTE6

I actually sent this yesterday.  Another post lost in the wilds of pdml.com

 





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Re: OT: We are Grandparents!!

2011-04-05 Thread Ann Sanfedele



Paul Sorenson wrote:


Congratulations!!  Best wishes to all.

-p 


what he said

ann




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