Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/11/2011 21:42, Larry Colen wrote:

Rather than spending money to buy a new lens, bring me along, and I'll share my 
lenses with you.


Mister Roberts, your attention is required :-).

Boris

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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Ann Sanfedele]

Scott Loveless wrote:


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:13 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
 


We have bike lanes in Brisbane too, often, sensibly, between the parking lane 
and the
traffic lanes.
   



Like this?  

It's called a door zone and it's dangerous.  Here's why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_zone

I refuse to ride in door zones, giving myself at least 4 or 5 feet
between me and parked cars.  If that means I'm in your way, too bad.
Your being late takes a back seat to my safety.

That photo in the first link is a new cycle lane, put there within the
last few months.  Were I to ride on that road I'd be to the left of
the bike lane.  The truth, however, is that particular road carries a
tremendous amount of traffic.  During rush hour, it's nearly a parking
lot.  When that photo was taken cars were traveling at nearly 30mph.
Throw in cell phone texting soccer moms trying to parallel park, and
it's probably one of those most dangerous roads around here for
cyclists.  The League of American Bicyclists put their seal of
approval on it.  Go figure.

 

Geez that does look dangerous! ...  here it is traffic, parking (and 
waiting to cross) , bike lane, sidewalk.  Maybe I should
do a vid of second ave.  

In my neighborhood I've seen people on -moving bikes- texting! ..  


ann





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Re: GESO - Lots of old airplanes...

[Paul Sorenson]

Thanks, Tim.  I've heard of the cornflower, but never actually seen one 
before.


-p

On 6/11/2011 11:35 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

That's a cornflower.  Often, the heroes in romance novels are said to
have eyes of this color.  -T

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:

Returned end of last week from visiting relatives in Dayton, OH.  Mostly
vacation snaps, but anybody know what flower this is?

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0087.jpg

Spend the afternoon of Memorial Day at the Air Force Museum at
Wright-Patterson and only got through the "Early Years" and "WWII" displays.
  My ex-father-in-law and his partner donated this one to the museum in the
early 1970s.  Ten years later the restoration was complete and it was put on
display.

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0128.jpg

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0132.jpg

Gallery of everything starts here...

http://studio1941.com/dayton/

But mostly if you like meticulously restored old airplanes in a museum the
"Early Years" are here...

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0098.jpg

And "WWII" starts here...

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0140.jpg

All AF Museum images with the K-5 and 18-55 kit lens, PP in LR3.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Tim Bray]

The 50-135 is a brilliant lens but it's awfully big & heavy.  I don't
take it along on biz trips for that reason.  But for serious tourism
where I expect to encounter extreme beauty, sure.

Of my lenses, the 21mm is the one absolute must-have.  The 21mm and
40mm are a good & very compact pair.  Recently I've been taking the
100mm macro because it's quite a bit lighter than the 50-135;
particularly if I expect to do any portraiture. -T

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:25 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
> Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
> have any
> coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
> something with
> longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
> This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one 
> potential lens change
> to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend 
> to do a lot of
> walking when on holiday.
> I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
> far more
> useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.
>
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
> Christine Nielsen
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:49 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?
>
> Hello all,
>
> Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?
>
> I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am experiencing a 
> pre-trip
> enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I packed light for our summer 
> vacation, with
> only one 17-70 lens, and I kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my 
> original plan was to
> bring along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
> But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping & lens-schlepping 
> on the
> family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day), plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) 
> is a better
> solution.  Then again,  why own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I 
> bet the
> 18-135 is a fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.
>
> My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming you are 
> not on photo
> safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom for travel, and leave the 
> super-nice lens
> at home?  Security, packing light, ease of use all factor in... but, also 
> image quality...
> what say you?
>
> I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll have to 
> seek help on
> another list for that one.
>
> :)
> Thanks,
> -c
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PESO: Five Flags

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=98

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Re: 18/06 - World Pentax Day

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/10/2011 23:22, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Boris Liberman


On 6/9/2011 22:15, Bob W wrote:

> a little language tip for you, Boris. Nobody says "fucking
unbelievable".
> It's always "un-fuckin'-believable".
>
> Even my granny says it that way, and she's 115.
>
> B


Nothing can really replace good old Russian Mat. I am pretty bad in
swearing in either Hebrew or English, but Russian is naturally entirely
different story.


Yeah, but if the person you swearing at doesn't understand what you're
saying, what use is it?


If someone is swearing at you - you don't really need to know the 
language, do you? If someone is swearing with you - you may have a 
point, although I am under impression that certain expletives (from many 
languages, not just Russian) are becoming international.


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Re: peso - me

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/10/2011 07:17, Sasha Sobol wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobol/5817343496/in/photostream
Please tell me what you think.

--Sasha


I think that I don't recognize you on that shot and I happen to have met 
you in person.


Seriously however, it is an interesting form (as in art form) but it 
leaves me indifferent otherwise.


Boris


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Re: 18/06 - World Pentax Day

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/12/2011 03:04, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Hi Boris,
Never did get it. No matter. Facebook isn't a very important issue.
Paul


I certainly agree. However my lack of ability to send you a private 
message needs to be addressed.


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Re: GESO - Lots of old airplanes...

[Tim Bray]

That's a cornflower.  Often, the heroes in romance novels are said to
have eyes of this color.  -T

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> Returned end of last week from visiting relatives in Dayton, OH.  Mostly
> vacation snaps, but anybody know what flower this is?
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0087.jpg
>
> Spend the afternoon of Memorial Day at the Air Force Museum at
> Wright-Patterson and only got through the "Early Years" and "WWII" displays.
>  My ex-father-in-law and his partner donated this one to the museum in the
> early 1970s.  Ten years later the restoration was complete and it was put on
> display.
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0128.jpg
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0132.jpg
>
> Gallery of everything starts here...
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/
>
> But mostly if you like meticulously restored old airplanes in a museum the
> "Early Years" are here...
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0098.jpg
>
> And "WWII" starts here...
>
> http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0140.jpg
>
> All AF Museum images with the K-5 and 18-55 kit lens, PP in LR3.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
> -p
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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Scott Loveless]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:13 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
> We have bike lanes in Brisbane too, often, sensibly, between the parking lane 
> and the
> traffic lanes.

Like this?  

 It's called a door zone and it's dangerous.  Here's why:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Door_zone

I refuse to ride in door zones, giving myself at least 4 or 5 feet
between me and parked cars.  If that means I'm in your way, too bad.
Your being late takes a back seat to my safety.

That photo in the first link is a new cycle lane, put there within the
last few months.  Were I to ride on that road I'd be to the left of
the bike lane.  The truth, however, is that particular road carries a
tremendous amount of traffic.  During rush hour, it's nearly a parking
lot.  When that photo was taken cars were traveling at nearly 30mph.
Throw in cell phone texting soccer moms trying to parallel park, and
it's probably one of those most dangerous roads around here for
cyclists.  The League of American Bicyclists put their seal of
approval on it.  Go figure.

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GESO - Lots of old airplanes...

[Paul Sorenson]

Returned end of last week from visiting relatives in Dayton, OH.  Mostly 
vacation snaps, but anybody know what flower this is?


http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0087.jpg

Spend the afternoon of Memorial Day at the Air Force Museum at 
Wright-Patterson and only got through the "Early Years" and "WWII" 
displays.  My ex-father-in-law and his partner donated this one to the 
museum in the early 1970s.  Ten years later the restoration was complete 
and it was put on display.


http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0128.jpg

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0132.jpg

Gallery of everything starts here...

http://studio1941.com/dayton/

But mostly if you like meticulously restored old airplanes in a museum 
the "Early Years" are here...


http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0098.jpg

And "WWII" starts here...

http://studio1941.com/dayton/#IMGP0140.jpg

All AF Museum images with the K-5 and 18-55 kit lens, PP in LR3.

Thanks for looking.

-p
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Bob Sullivan]

Clerk is likely packing a gun...

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:30 PM, John Coyle  wrote:
> That's a real convenience store: buy your gun, pick up some ammo, hold up the 
> clerk on the
> way out!
>
> John Coyle
> Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
> Steven Desjardins
> Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 4:15 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia
>
> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had stooped 
> at a small
> supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
> bread/chips:
>
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=safety.jpg
>
> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To really 
> appreciate this,
> you have to imagine this stuff in an urban Tesco.
>
> --  Steve Desjardins
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RE: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[John Coyle]

That's a real convenience store: buy your gun, pick up some ammo, hold up the 
clerk on the
way out!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Subject: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had stooped at 
a small
supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
bread/chips:

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=safety.jpg

Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To really 
appreciate this,
you have to imagine this stuff in an urban Tesco.

--  Steve Desjardins

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RE: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[John Coyle]

Said this before, but in Egypt I took just the 16-45 and 50-200, and didn't 
have any
coverage problems. I wasn't going to be shooting sport so I didn't need 
something with
longer reach, and the short lens was fine for interiors, temples etc.
This year we're going to Italy, and I'll take the same kit: only one potential 
lens change
to be considered,  it's light, and that's a consideration too since we tend to 
do a lot of
walking when on holiday.
I'd recommend you take just the 17-70 and 50-135 plus a flash.  The flash is 
far more
useful than a wider aperture lens for holiday photography, in my experience.


John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of 
Christine Nielsen
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 1:49 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am experiencing a 
pre-trip
enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I packed light for our summer 
vacation, with
only one 17-70 lens, and I kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original 
plan was to
bring along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping & lens-schlepping 
on the
family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day), plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is 
a better
solution.  Then again,  why own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I 
bet the
18-135 is a fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming you are 
not on photo
safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom for travel, and leave the 
super-nice lens
at home?  Security, packing light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image 
quality...
what say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll have to 
seek help on
another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[John Coyle]

We have bike lanes in Brisbane too, often, sensibly, between the parking lane 
and the
traffic lanes.  But, far too many cyclists are complete idiots when it comes to 
sensible
use of the roads: my street is one way, with a footpath next to the road, and a 
 two metre
wide bike path beyond that: yet I still see a number of cyclists riding the 
wrong way up
the street in the traffic lane.  This is particularly dangerous as there is a 
blind corner
just metres from where I live, and most drivers are concentrating too hard on 
not being
hit by traffic coming down the road to spare more than quick glance in case 
there should
be anything coming the wrong way.
In the city too, I see bike couriers particularly ignoring one-ways, running 
red lights,
riding across pedestrian islands, weaving through the oncoming traffic which 
has the green
-that's just asking to get hurt, never mind a ticket.  
Not that drivers are at all blameless or even sensible: red-light running and 
speeding
seem to be on the increase here.  Just yesterday a driver did a U-turn in our 
driveway and
blithely went back up the road the wrong way.  Another had been waiting a 
minute or so at
a red light and decided that it was too long, so just turned anyway.  He was 
fortunate
that he got away with it, as that particular junction is not an easy one for 
visibility.
I may be getting to be a grumpy old man, but when I see some supposedly mature 
adult
cyclist riding his bike through the crowds in a shopping mall, I'm compelled to 
tell him
to get off!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 2:01 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: OT: Cycling in New York

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

>If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they should 
>be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and 
>the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and trucks 
>can be severe.
>
>Dan
>  
>
>>Great video here about a guy's response to being ticketed for not 
>>cycling in the bike lane:
>>
>>
>>Ironically he shouldn't have been ticketed, because it's not a legal 
>>requirement to use them.
>>

It is  or will soon be... if there is a bike lane and it isn't blocked.. 
 The guy that did the video likes the bike lanes he was just pointing out that 
the bike
lanes were often blocked by trucks unloading, people standing in them, etc.  (I 
heard him
interviewed on local news station a couple of times)  

The bike lanes have helped  on major streets but not all streets have them so, 
of course,
if there is no lane a bike can still ride on it - but must obey the one way 
directions,
stop signs, speed limit - etc that cars do.  That isn't happening all the time.

The other day a father with is toddler on the bike with him was going the wrong 
way on my
street and when I was crossing , having looked in the dirction the traffic 
comes from
legally, he shouted "watch out"  I  called back "you're going the wrong way" 
and he TURNS
and shouts back "but I called "watch out" (!)

Every time I go out I see bikers going the wrong way  in a bike lane, riding on 
the
sidewalk, not riding in the lanes when they are clear,  speeding, not stopping 
at
lights... and they aren't getting ticketed for that often enough.  

Mostly it has been a great help to pedestrian safety, tho. .. especially the 
parked cars
not being right on the curb

ann


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Re: PESO: My first attempt at Fungi Capture

[Rick Womer]

I like "Morning Dew".  Nice composition, nice use of DOF and bokeh.

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Wed, 6/8/11, Jeffery Johnson  wrote:

> From: Jeffery Johnson 
> Subject: PESO: My first attempt at Fungi Capture
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 8:11 PM
> This is my first attempt at Fungi
> photography. I took this one yesterday
> morning at work. They pop up overnight and as soon as the
> temps begin to get
> hot they start to welt and then fade away until the next
> morning.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5810167623/in/photostream
> 
> I also came across this big boy on Memorial Day at
> Cheekwood Art and
> Gardens:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/5802113501/sizes/l/in/photostream/
> 
> For those of you that want a link to the set, here are
> those links:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157626787376719/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jt-johnson/sets/72157626894724828/
> 
> Jeffery
> 
> ___
> Pictures that I have taken on Flickr:
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Re: PESO(s): Granfoss

[Rick Womer]

Not bad if you like purple rocks and brown water.

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> Subject: PESO(s): Granfoss
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> Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 5:43 PM
> 'Evening all,
> 
> There is a certain way of rendering (if that's the right
> word) water that seems to have been fashionable for a while.
> Not sure if I'm a great fan myself, but I still had to try
> something similar myself. The results are in:
> 
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2011-3-17
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2011-3-21
> http://www.toralf.net/bilde.php?navn=2011-3-23
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> What say you?
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Re: PESO - On Pure Instinct

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Jack. That would be a snowboard in these parts. 
I rendered this on my laptop, so it's probably a bit off, but I had to post. 
Too much fun.
Paul
On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Nice breaker curl to the grass, Paul ;) You started saving for a surfboard? 
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Sat, 6/11/11, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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>> Subject: PESO - On Pure Instinct
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>> Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 5:39 PM
>> Don't know where she gets this> I
>> never showed her how. That's for sure.
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Re: PESO - On Pure Instinct

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Nice breaker curl to the grass, Paul ;) You started saving for a surfboard? 

Jack

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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bob if you do get here in the fall, you will understand what Dan and I 
are saying about this...


One thing about the cars is that the traffic can be so bad that they are 
scarcely moving  - sometimes at a total
standstill so a pedestrian can cross the street without fear :) but the 
cyclists then weave in and out of the cars
and , as I said before, if you are walking you cant hear them and they 
go so fast if you look in one direction and

are clear they might be there in a flash when you look in the other...

They even cycle at night without lights or reflector The courteous and 
safe have bells to jingle and lights so you can
see them at night, but there are far to many who are way reckless.  


Would love the private cars to go too, as I said earlier.

ann - frankly scared of 'em




Bob W wrote:


that sounds like a good idea. Wish they'd do that in London.

 


There are lots of things the city is trying ot do.  One proposal is to
ban all private vehicle from Midtown and to restrict trucks to
off-peak hours.

Large stretches of Broadway are now pedetrian mall, with tables and
chair set up right in the middle of the street:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070283

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Bob W  wrote:
   


From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
   


Of
   


Daniel J. Matyola
   

 


Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
should be force to follow reasonable rules.

I have been to London more than once.  London may be a city, but it
   


is
   


in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
like New Yorkers.  London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men
   


and
   


women.  New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.
   


Sounds like the drivers are at least as much of a problem as the
 


cyclists.
   


What do you propose to do about them?

B

 


London Cyclists seem to value their own lives;  some of the cyclists
in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
(preferably a limo).

Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen.  The bikes
move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
orderly fashion.

The bottom line is that different circumstances require different
rules.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
   


Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because
 


some
   


cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe
   


behaviour
   


because some of them break the law?
   



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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Ann Sanfedele]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


The problem, Frank, is that the bikes in the traffic lanes DON'T go
the speed of traffic;  they run through lights and cut in and out and
THEY make sudden swoops onto the cross street and back, cutting
through pedestrian traffic, scattering tourists in all directions.

The bike lanes are relatively new, and they provide a lot of safety to
both cyclists and pedestrians.  Unfortunately, those who are impatient
create a safety hazard.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:15 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
I'd much rather be right in the middle of a car
 


lane, going the speed of traffic where they cars can see me, than
stuck in a bike lane, on the periphery, subject to sudden swoops by
cars diving into and out of illegal parking spots, subject to car
doors being suddenly flung open into my face by disembarking
passengers, etc.
   



 


Second that...
Really,  in NY there are so many reckless people on bikes you really 
can't imagine...
and on a noisy street if you are a slow moving pedestrian you are in 
peril frequently..


You can't hear the bikes approaching and they are particularly bold when 
there is stand still
traffic with cars...  and many don't realise how scary they are for the 
old and fragile - whooosh!


The bike lanes are useful for , at the very least, if people stay in 
them  warning we who neither drive or ride bikes
that a bike might be coming down the lane.  But you still have to look 
_both_ ways.


at first I thought it was a bad idea too... but it really is working in 
my neighborhood.  

In the best of all possible worlds in Manhattan, all private cars would 
be banned  just busses , necessary business deliveries and

bikes and trikes and pedestrians.

The holier than thou attitude of some riders in New York and being 
yelled at by a twenty year old on a bike to get out of the way
when I'm crossing the street with the light and he is running it ain't 
so much fun.


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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[Ken Waller]

They were covered as part of Speeds Race coverage - not a commercial per se. 
Corvette fans will love that but others not so much.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Steven Desjardins" 

Subject: Re: OT Le Mans 24hours


A lot of Chevy commercials, maybe?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:

I've watched several hours - decent coverage if you can block out all the
'coverage's they're giving the Corvettes - way out of proportion to the
others running - sometime their 'coverage' is almost a Corvette 
commercial.


Horrendus incidents two of the team Audis were involved in - apparaently
both drivers are ok but IMO they caused their own accidents.

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- Original Message - From: "mike wilson" 
Subject: Re: OT Le Mans 24hours



On 11/06/2011 13:36, Steven Desjardins wrote:


Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
hours. They intersperse other programming.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:16 AM, mike wilson
wrote:


http://www.audi-microsites.com/lemans/

Streaming, live, in-car action. Allegedly. Starts in two hours or so.


I've given up with it - too fragmented. Watching MotoGP practice
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Daniel J. Matyola]

radian-tly.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
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> - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless" 
> Subject: Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia
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>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Cotty  wrote:
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 I had stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville
>
>>> I had the same leaning once.
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>> I'm inclined to believe you.
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> To what degree?
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PESO - On Pure Instinct

[Paul Stenquist]

Don't know where she gets this> I never showed her how. That's for sure.
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Re: PESO - Plover?

[Ken Waller]

Nice capture Knarf - good choice of DOF.

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- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

Subject: PESO - Plover?


I need an ID on this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html

Seen walking (then flying) near the shore of Lake Ontario this
morning.  I'm thinking a plover of some sort?  Any help is
appreciated.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless" 

Subject: Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Cotty  wrote:


I had stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville



I had the same leaning once.



I'm inclined to believe you.


To what degree?


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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Ken Waller]

The latest issue (July 2011) of Popular Photography contains a review of 
this lens. Biggest negative they mention is the street price - $500 USD. All 
in all they like it from the excellent subjective Quality Ratings to the 
placement of the manual focusing ring - closest to the mount as opposed to 
other Pentax Zooms with the focus ring out past the zoom ring.


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- Original Message - 
From: "Christine Nielsen" 

Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?



Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping &
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[Steven Desjardins]

A lot of Chevy commercials, maybe?

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> I've watched several hours - decent coverage if you can block out all the
> 'coverage's they're giving the Corvettes - way out of proportion to the
> others running - sometime their 'coverage' is almost a Corvette commercial.
>
> Horrendus incidents two of the team Audis were involved in - apparaently
> both drivers are ok but IMO they caused their own accidents.
>
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> - Original Message - From: "mike wilson" 
> Subject: Re: OT Le Mans 24hours
>
>
>> On 11/06/2011 13:36, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>>>
>>> Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
>>> hours.  They intersperse other programming.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:16 AM, mike wilson
>>> wrote:

 http://www.audi-microsites.com/lemans/

 Streaming, live, in-car action.  Allegedly.  Starts in two hours or so.
>>
>> I've given up with it - too fragmented.  Watching MotoGP practice
>> inbetween researching assignments.  Ahem.
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Re: PESO - Plover?

[Mark Cassino]

Like Matthew said - Spotted Sandpiper. Nice shot and I like the flowers in the 
background. I took a few snapshots of these guys last summer up north:

http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/spotted-sandpiper

 


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Subject: PESO - Plover?

I need an ID on this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html

Seen walking (then flying) near the shore of Lake Ontario this
morning.  I'm thinking a plover of some sort?  Any help is
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Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 094 & 095 - GDG

[Ken Waller]

Nice work - both of them.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 

Subject: Re: PESO 2011 - 094 & 095 - GDG



I like the detail and the textures, as well as the compositions.
Amazing what you can do with a very unremarkable subject!

Dan

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
wrote:

From walks in Bronxville, NY last month:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/in/photostream/lightbox/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/in/photostream/lightbox/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/

thanks for looking. comments always appreciated.

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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[Ken Waller]

I've watched several hours - decent coverage if you can block out all the 
'coverage's they're giving the Corvettes - way out of proportion to the 
others running - sometime their 'coverage' is almost a Corvette commercial.


Horrendus incidents two of the team Audis were involved in - apparaently 
both drivers are ok but IMO they caused their own accidents.


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- Original Message - 
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Subject: Re: OT Le Mans 24hours



On 11/06/2011 13:36, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
hours.  They intersperse other programming.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:16 AM, mike wilson 
wrote:

http://www.audi-microsites.com/lemans/

Streaming, live, in-car action.  Allegedly.  Starts in two hours or so.


I've given up with it - too fragmented.  Watching MotoGP practice 
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Re: 18/06 - World Pentax Day

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On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

> On 6/11/2011 13:35, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> And he didn't reply!
>> Paul
> 
> Awkward as it is, I did send you a message yesterday. Did it once more time 
> just a moment ago.

Hi Boris,
Never did get it. No matter. Facebook isn't a very important issue.
Paul
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Re: PESO: Egret Sunrise

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Dave.

Jack



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> That is quite nice.
> 
> Dave
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > Collected this modest image this AM. Kind of goes with
> an early AM mood.
> > Soft random color tones are primarily the result of a
> low sun angle. I may have nudged them a little. ;)
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Jack
> >
> >
> > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=607
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> > K5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/800s, ISO 800, about 1/3
> crop, drive by
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Not in Jersey.  I believe they may be starting to sell guns again in
rural areas of upstate NY, but Jersey and metropolitan NYC have were
tough gun policies.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Stan Halpin
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
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>> You wouldn't find that in the more urban areas of the country,
>> certainly not in New Jersey or the rest of the Northeast.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>>> The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
>>> stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
>>> of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
>>> out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
>>> place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
>>> guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
>>> on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
> stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
> bread/chips:
>
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
> ent=safety.jpg
>
> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
> really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
> Tesco.
>
> --  Steve Desjardins

 oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
 it's in a hoodie's hand...

 Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
 is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
 glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.

 I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
 rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
 house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.

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Re: PESO - Plover?

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice capture, Frank.  Good, clear detail in the bird itself, and a
pleasing background.

Dan

> --- On Sat, 6/11/11, frank theriault  wrote:
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>> From: frank theriault 
>> Subject: PESO - Plover?
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 2:46 PM
>> I need an ID on this one:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html
>>
>> Seen walking (then flying) near the shore of Lake Ontario
>> this
>> morning.  I'm thinking a plover of some sort?
>> Any help is
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
>>
>> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Plover?

[Jack Davis]

Well composed very nice catch of a Spotted Sandpiper, Frank! 

Jack

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> Subject: PESO - Plover?
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 2:46 PM
> I need an ID on this one:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html
> 
> Seen walking (then flying) near the shore of Lake Ontario
> this
> morning.  I'm thinking a plover of some sort? 
> Any help is
> appreciated.
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
> 
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Steven Desjardins]

Oh yeah, well Big K to you, sir!

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Stan Halpin
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> Walmart
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>
>> You wouldn't find that in the more urban areas of the country,
>> certainly not in New Jersey or the rest of the Northeast.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>>> The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
>>> stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
>>> of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
>>> out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
>>> place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
>>> guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
>>> on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
> stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
> bread/chips:
>
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
> ent=safety.jpg
>
> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
> really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
> Tesco.
>
> --  Steve Desjardins

 oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
 it's in a hoodie's hand...

 Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
 is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
 glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.

 I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
 rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Stan Halpin]

Walmart

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 11, 2011, at 4:25 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:

> You wouldn't find that in the more urban areas of the country,
> certainly not in New Jersey or the rest of the Northeast.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
>> stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
>> of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
>> out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
>> place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
>> guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
>> on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
 Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
 stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
 to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
 bread/chips:
 
 http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
 ent=safety.jpg
 
 Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
 really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
 Tesco.
 
 --  Steve Desjardins
>>> 
>>> oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
>>> it's in a hoodie's hand...
>>> 
>>> Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
>>> is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
>>> glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.
>>> 
>>> I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
>>> rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
>>> house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.
>>> 
>>> B
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Re: PESO - Black Swan

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:46 -0400, "frank theriault"
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> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > The bird, that is.  Not the movie.
> >
> > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP0232a-peso.html
> >
> >
> > Comments appreciated and welcome.
> 
> Lovely!  Lots of feather detail, very nice exposure given the dark
> bird and the bright sun.
> 
> All in all a terrific photo.



Thanks, Frank.  And thanks to all who looked/commented.  

Much appreciated.



Cheers

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Jim King]

Christine Nielsen wrote on Sat, 11 Jun 2011 08:49:30 -0700

> Hello all,
> 
> Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?
> 
> I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
> experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
> packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
> kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
> along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
> But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping &
> lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
> plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
> own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
> fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.
> 
> My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
> you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
> for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
> light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
> say you?
>> 

I have a copy of this lens - bought it used for a good price as I wanted a WR 
travel zoom.  I found it to be very sharp in the center of the image but a bit 
weak in the corners, and the IQ drops off at the long end as you might expect.  
I think that the Photozone review is too harsh, at least for my copy.

All said, it's fine for my intended purpose but certainly below Pentax's DA 
50-135 in IQ.  If you're taking snaps it will be fine; for critical work where 
edge-to-edge sharpness is needed it probably is not what you are looking for.

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Re: PESO - Plover?

[Matthew Hunt]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:46 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> I need an ID on this one:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html

Spotted Sandpiper. We have a couple of them on the pond on our
property, but they're skittish and I've never been able to get close
enough for a shot like that. Nice job.

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PESO - Plover?

[frank theriault]

I need an ID on this one:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/06/plover.html

Seen walking (then flying) near the shore of Lake Ontario this
morning.  I'm thinking a plover of some sort?  Any help is
appreciated.

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Scott Loveless]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Cotty  wrote:
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>> I had
>>stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville
>
> I had the same leaning once.

I'm inclined to believe you.

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Re: PESO 2011 - 094 & 095 - GDG

[Jim King]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote on Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:22:20 -0700

> From walks in Bronxville, NY last month: 
> 
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/in/photostream/lightbox/
> 
> or
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/
> 
> 
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/in/photostream/lightbox/
> 
> or
>   
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/
> 
> 
> thanks for looking. comments always appreciated. 

I really like the first image (Leaf Study #2)  - it draws me into the frame in 
an almost mesmerizing way.  You sure do leaves well!

Regards, Jim

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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Cotty]

> I had
>stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville

I had the same leaning once.



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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Cotty]

On 11/6/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Compulsory cycle lanes make cycling less safe for cyclists, pedestrians and
>motor traffic, particularly at junctions.

What about Nederlands? From what I saw, they even get their own traffic
lights at major junctions. Every country road has a separate cycle lane/
footpath either side, lit, gotta be safer to keep cars and cycles apart?

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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 04:26:24PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> I do sometimes watch the NASCAR truck series on Speed.  I like the MC
> races (MotoGP and AMA) as well F1.  I have to admit that I my TV is on
> Speed a disproportionate amount of time.

Speed, Versus and BBC America make up a significant chunk of our TV
watching.  There is some contribution from the mainstream networks
(some series we both watch, some only my wife watches) & from Netflix.
And my wife watches the four major tennis tournaments, and as much
figure skating as she can find.  But motorsports is definitely a
major factor.  In fact it dictated our switch to satellite TV back
in the later '90s when F1 coverage moved to ESPN2, which wasn't on
our local cable series at the time.  We're back on cable now (this
time because we chose to stick with TiVo as our DVR of choice, and
DirecTV started transmitting HD channels in a format that wasn't
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Re: GESO: John Lennon gig

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On 11/6/11, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed:

> You probably have as much as five inches on him.   Excluding genitalia.

lol MARK.

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Re: 18/06 - World Pentax Day

[Cotty]

On 11/6/11, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>yes there would. It would be the Pentax Telling People You've Replied
>Offlist Instead Of Sharing It List. It would consist of hundreds of messages
>every day like this:
>
>Replied off list
>Replied off list to off list reply
>Started conversation offlist with Bozza
>Ignoring off list messages
>Offlist conversation with Bill Robb ended acrimoniously
>Held offlist PDML meeting that you weren't invited to

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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[Bob W]

that sounds like a good idea. Wish they'd do that in London.

> There are lots of things the city is trying ot do.  One proposal is to
> ban all private vehicle from Midtown and to restrict trucks to
> off-peak hours.
> 
> Large stretches of Broadway are now pedetrian mall, with tables and
> chair set up right in the middle of the street:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070283
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Daniel J. Matyola
> >
> >
> >> Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
> >> should be force to follow reasonable rules.
> >>
> >> I have been to London more than once.  London may be a city, but it
> is
> >> in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
> >> like New Yorkers.  London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men
> and
> >> women.  New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.
> >
> > Sounds like the drivers are at least as much of a problem as the
> cyclists.
> > What do you propose to do about them?
> >
> > B
> >
> >> London Cyclists seem to value their own lives;  some of the cyclists
> >> in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
> >> (preferably a limo).
> >>
> >> Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen.  The bikes
> >> move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
> >> orderly fashion.
> >>
> >> The bottom line is that different circumstances require different
> >> rules.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >> >> > Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because
> some
> >> >> cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
> >> >> behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe
> >> behaviour
> >> >> because some of them break the law?
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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Daniel J. Matyola]

There are lots of things the city is trying ot do.  One proposal is to
ban all private vehicle from Midtown and to restrict trucks to
off-peak hours.

Large stretches of Broadway are now pedetrian mall, with tables and
chair set up right in the middle of the street:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11070283

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Daniel J. Matyola
>
>
>> Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
>> should be force to follow reasonable rules.
>>
>> I have been to London more than once.  London may be a city, but it is
>> in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
>> like New Yorkers.  London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men and
>> women.  New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.
>
> Sounds like the drivers are at least as much of a problem as the cyclists.
> What do you propose to do about them?
>
> B
>
>> London Cyclists seem to value their own lives;  some of the cyclists
>> in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
>> (preferably a limo).
>>
>> Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen.  The bikes
>> move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
>> orderly fashion.
>>
>> The bottom line is that different circumstances require different
>> rules.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> >> > Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some
>> >> cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
>> >> behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe
>> behaviour
>> >> because some of them break the law?
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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Daniel J. Matyola


> Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
> should be force to follow reasonable rules.
> 
> I have been to London more than once.  London may be a city, but it is
> in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
> like New Yorkers.  London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men and
> women.  New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.

Sounds like the drivers are at least as much of a problem as the cyclists.
What do you propose to do about them?

B

> London Cyclists seem to value their own lives;  some of the cyclists
> in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
> (preferably a limo).
> 
> Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen.  The bikes
> move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
> orderly fashion.
> 
> The bottom line is that different circumstances require different
> rules.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> >> > Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some
> >> cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
> >> behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe
> behaviour
> >> because some of them break the law?



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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Steven Desjardins]

I think it's pretty rare here as well.  Ammo would not be surprising,
but the hardware was pretty funny.  They had some nice produce as well
and an enormous selection of TV dinners.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> You wouldn't find that in the more urban areas of the country,
> certainly not in New Jersey or the rest of the Northeast.
>
> Dan
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
>> stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
>> of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
>> out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
>> place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
>> guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
>> on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
 Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
 stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
 to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
 bread/chips:

 http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
 ent=safety.jpg

 Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
 really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
 Tesco.

 --  Steve Desjardins
>>>
>>> oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
>>> it's in a hoodie's hand...
>>>
>>> Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
>>> is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
>>> glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.
>>>
>>> I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
>>> rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
>>> house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.
>>>
>>> B
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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[Steven Desjardins]

I do sometimes watch the NASCAR truck series on Speed.  I like the MC
races (MotoGP and AMA) as well F1.  I have to admit that I my TV is on
Speed a disproportionate amount of time.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:14 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>
> Oh, sure, I know what's on Speed.  The reference to the other series
> was because that's what I'll be trying to find enough time to watch
> this weekend besides Le Mans.  The IndyCar coverage is on Versus
> (which also has cycling coverage - Dauphine Libere & Tour de Suisse).
>
> Speed (AKA "All NASCAR, all the time") carries a lot of NASCAR because
> the powers-that-be at Fox think that's what they can sell (Speed was
> bought by Fox a few years ago). And I'm sure the deal cut to get the TV
> rights to the principal series required them to also carry some of the
> support races, lower series, etc. But of late there does seem to be at
> least a slight reduction in the emphasis on NASCAR - possibly due to
> the fact that NASCAR is no longer quite the ratings powerhouse it was.
> It's still by far the most popular series in the US, but it's losing
> market share.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:19:31PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> Actually, the other programming is NASCAR practice/qualifying and some
>> ARCA (NASCAR minor league) races.  I think Speed is required by law to
>> carry any NASCAR activity whatsoever whenever it's on.
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, John Francis  wrote:
>> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:36:30AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> >> Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
>> >> hours. ?They intersperse other programming.
>> >
>> > Which my TiVo is recording. ? Please do not post spoilers here - real
>> > life is interfering with my ability to devote time to watching this live.
>> >
>> > Then there's the IndyCar race, and Formula One. ?It's a busy weekernd.
>> >
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Daniel J. Matyola]

You wouldn't find that in the more urban areas of the country,
certainly not in New Jersey or the rest of the Northeast.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
> stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
> of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
> out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
> place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
> guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
> on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
>>> stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
>>> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
>>> bread/chips:
>>>
>>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
>>> ent=safety.jpg
>>>
>>> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
>>> really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
>>> Tesco.
>>>
>>> --  Steve Desjardins
>>
>> oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
>> it's in a hoodie's hand...
>>
>> Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
>> is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
>> glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.
>>
>> I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
>> rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
>> house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.
>>
>> B
>>
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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, I do believe that if bikes cause safety problems, all bikes
should be force to follow reasonable rules.

I have been to London more than once.  London may be a city, but it is
in England, and the drivers and cyclists drive like Englishmen, not
like New Yorkers.  London taxis are driven by sane, courteous men and
women.  New York cab drivers think they are in a demolition derby.
London Cyclists seem to value their own lives;  some of the cyclists
in New York appear to be daring someone to hit them with a car
(preferably a limo).

Amsterdam has the heaviest bike traffic I have ever seen.  The bikes
move fast, but they move together in large groups, and in a very
orderly fashion.

The bottom line is that different circumstances require different rules.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> > Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some
>> cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
>> behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe behaviour
>> because some of them break the law?

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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The problem, Frank, is that the bikes in the traffic lanes DON'T go
the speed of traffic;  they run through lights and cut in and out and
THEY make sudden swoops onto the cross street and back, cutting
through pedestrian traffic, scattering tourists in all directions.

The bike lanes are relatively new, and they provide a lot of safety to
both cyclists and pedestrians.  Unfortunately, those who are impatient
create a safety hazard.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 2:15 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
 I'd much rather be right in the middle of a car
> lane, going the speed of traffic where they cars can see me, than
> stuck in a bike lane, on the periphery, subject to sudden swoops by
> cars diving into and out of illegal parking spots, subject to car
> doors being suddenly flung open into my face by disembarking
> passengers, etc.

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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[John Francis]

Oh, sure, I know what's on Speed.  The reference to the other series
was because that's what I'll be trying to find enough time to watch
this weekend besides Le Mans.  The IndyCar coverage is on Versus
(which also has cycling coverage - Dauphine Libere & Tour de Suisse).

Speed (AKA "All NASCAR, all the time") carries a lot of NASCAR because
the powers-that-be at Fox think that's what they can sell (Speed was
bought by Fox a few years ago). And I'm sure the deal cut to get the TV
rights to the principal series required them to also carry some of the
support races, lower series, etc. But of late there does seem to be at
least a slight reduction in the emphasis on NASCAR - possibly due to
the fact that NASCAR is no longer quite the ratings powerhouse it was.
It's still by far the most popular series in the US, but it's losing
market share.


On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:19:31PM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> Actually, the other programming is NASCAR practice/qualifying and some
> ARCA (NASCAR minor league) races.  I think Speed is required by law to
> carry any NASCAR activity whatsoever whenever it's on.
> 
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:36:30AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> >> Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
> >> hours. ?They intersperse other programming.
> >
> > Which my TiVo is recording. ? Please do not post spoilers here - real
> > life is interfering with my ability to devote time to watching this live.
> >
> > Then there's the IndyCar race, and Formula One. ?It's a busy weekernd.
> >
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Re: PESO: Only the Truth Shall Set You Free

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Well, there is at least one.  This is "St Malachy's -- the actors'
chapel," right around the corner from Broadway:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13291332&size=md

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I'm not surprised they have a lack of cathedral-stytle storefronts in NYC.
>
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> Hey, this is Times Square!  The Big Apple!  How could you question
>> their version of the truth?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:25 PM, frank theriault
>>  wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>>> wrote:
 http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=96

 Comments and criticisms are appreciated.
>>>
>>> Hmmm.  Seems an odd location for a church.  Is that an old movie theatre?
>>>
>>> Interesting sign, interesting message:  I guess the question is "what
>>> is ~their~ truth?"  I bet it's not the same as mine?
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> A thought-provoking image, Dan.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> frank
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Re: PESO: Only the Truth Shall Set You Free

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I'm not surprised they have a lack of cathedral-stytle storefronts in NYC.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> Hey, this is Times Square!  The Big Apple!  How could you question
> their version of the truth?
>
> Dan
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:25 PM, frank theriault
>  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  
>> wrote:
>>> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=96
>>>
>>> Comments and criticisms are appreciated.
>>
>> Hmmm.  Seems an odd location for a church.  Is that an old movie theatre?
>>
>> Interesting sign, interesting message:  I guess the question is "what
>> is ~their~ truth?"  I bet it's not the same as mine?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> A thought-provoking image, Dan.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
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Re: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

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The setting certainly surprised me as well: "Honey, on your way home
stop by the store and get a loaf of bread, a gallon of milk,and a box
of .38 hollow points."  Upon reflection, however, this was pretty far
out and rural folks in Virginia do own guns and are entitled to some
place local to buy supplies.  Lots of towns have local gun shops but I
guess whoever owns the IGA thought to make some extra money by taking
on this function.  Certainly a nice selection for a grocery store.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
>> stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
>> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
>> bread/chips:
>>
>> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
>> ent=safety.jpg
>>
>> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
>> really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
>> Tesco.
>>
>> --  Steve Desjardins
>
> oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
> it's in a hoodie's hand...
>
> Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
> is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
> glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that.
>
> I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
> rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
> house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.
>
> B
>
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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[Bob W]

> > Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some
> cyclists break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe
> behaviour? How about if all motorists were forced into unsafe behaviour
> because some of them break the law?
> 
> Bingo!
> 
> It's really easy to pick on cyclists - we're slower moving (compared
> to cars), we aren't enclosed in a steel and glass cage - we're easy
> targets.
> 
[...]
> killed by automobiles.  If we're going to "crack down" on bad road
> manners, who should we go after, cars or bikes?  Yes, I know, the
> answer is "both", but please, don't target us before cars.
> 
> cheers,
> frank

also worth pointing out that if the aim of bringing in a new law is to curb
the people who are already breaking existing laws, it ain't gunna work -
they'll ignore that one too.

What works is investigating the way traffic - all traffic - operates, and
redesigning the streets to improve it for everyone. 

B


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RE: Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Bob W]

> Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
> stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
> to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
> bread/chips:
> 
> http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view&curr
> ent=safety.jpg
> 
> Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
> really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
> Tesco.
> 
> --  Steve Desjardins

oh, we have that sort of stuff in urban Tescos. But it's not in a cabinet,
it's in a hoodie's hand...

Actually there's not a lot gun crime here, I'm glad to say, and what there
is is mostly not urban - it's in the country where people own shotguns. I'm
glad we don't see guns on sale in supermarkets like that. 

I like shooting, and I'm rather good at it, with rifles & shotguns at any
rate - I've never shot a pistol. But I would never have a weapon in the
house. They belong in shooting clubs in my opinion.

B


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Peso: Say "ah"

[Steven Desjardins]

http://drd1135.smugmug.com/Photography/Old-Stuff/17503661_45JbVR#1332264141_mvp7zNP-A-LB

Across the street from the aforementioned supermarket.
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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Larry Colen]

On Jun 11, 2011, at 8:48 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I've got my 18-250, which can be a little soft when pushed hard but which is 
usually plenty sharp enough. It's also a lot lighter and a bit smaller than my 
16-50.

I love my DA40 but have been very tempted by the DA35 macro as a walkabout lens.

I'd want to have least one fast prime in the "standard", i.e. 25-40mm range, 
i.e. f/1.8 or faster.  I don't remember which body you have, but with the K-5 I 
can get away with lenses as slow as 2.8 a lot more often than I'd expect.


> 
> I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
> experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  


Rather than spending money to buy a new lens, bring me along, and I'll share my 
lenses with you.


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Re: A little Pause

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Peter:  For this subject, I think I'd prefer a more natural rendering. 
But you caught a nice pose and expression of your subject.  I like your 
shooting strategy you describe here and might try that myself.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Hi,

I had a very nice walk this Sunday at Brick Lane, London and made a little 
candid shot of a guy having a bit of break.


Now the way I had to photo him was a bit funny as when I first stopped 
next to him he was looking at me a bit unfriendly (at least that's how I 
felt). So I started taking pictures at the area (signs, this and that... 
whatever :D) and once he got familiar with me standing near and taking 
pictures he just started to act 'normal' again... so I grabbed the 
opportunity and took the picture. I've got this little tip (or trick) from 
DigitalRev TV on Youtube and I have to say it really works :)


Well cut a long story short, the picture:
http://15kb.posterous.com/a-little-pause

The reason why I am posting the picture because I've posted it on a 
hungarian forum and I got a nice e-bashing (well quite what I've expected 
from my fellow hungarians :D) yet I really like this picture post 
processed this way. (The picture was taken with Pentax K10D + Jupiter 
f2/85mm, no flash)


What's your opinion?

All the best,
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Re: PDML at Grandfather Mountain 2011

[Christine Aguila]

Very nice, John!  Cheers, Christine



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Subject: PESO: PDML at Grandfather Mountain 2011


Everyone who stayed around to the bitter end for the group photo. I was 
told it's the 10th anniversary. I don't really know, it's only my third 
time.


I apologize in advance if I've gotten any of the names wrong. Please let 
me know and I'll make the necessary correction.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/5815090734

Next year either someone else who knows what they're doing can shoot the 
group photo or someone needs to remind me to get everyone in the shade or 
everyone in the sun.


In my defense, sunshiny weather at Grandfather Mountain is an unfamiliar 
phenomenon and I haven't learned how to deal with it.




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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Bob W  wrote:

> Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some cyclists 
> break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe behaviour? How about 
> if all motorists were forced into unsafe behaviour because some of them break 
> the law?

Bingo!

It's really easy to pick on cyclists - we're slower moving (compared
to cars), we aren't enclosed in a steel and glass cage - we're easy
targets.

But I've seen cars going the wrong way down one-way streets (on
purpose, because they were only going one or two driveways down!).

As for stop signs, sit at one and count the number of cars that don't
stop.  I've done that several times.  Not counting if a car has to
stop to let a pedestrian or another car go first, if there are no
other vehicles or pedestrians at an intersection, it's about a 90%
no-stop rate, everything from a rolling stop to barely slowing down.

Ever sit at an intersection with traffic lights?  Virtually every
change to a red light sees several cars "sneak" through well after the
light has turned red.

I admit that bikes can seem a nuisance when we break traffic laws, but
keep in mind that when we do so we tend to do much less damage than
cars often do - usually the person injured is the cyclist alone.  It's
been about 5 years since a pedestrian was killed by a bike here in
Toronto.  In the meanwhile, some fifty or sixty pedestrians a year are
killed by automobiles.  If we're going to "crack down" on bad road
manners, who should we go after, cars or bikes?  Yes, I know, the
answer is "both", but please, don't target us before cars.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Squatter's Rights

[Christine Aguila]

Something about this shot that makes it my favorite Grace shot of all the 
ones you've posted thus far.  I think it's Grace's expression, which is 
wonderful.  Great work, Paul.  Cheers, Christine




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Re: Driftwood Triptych

[Christine Aguila]

Lovely detail in those three shots, Tim.  Nice work capturing it.  Cheers, 
Christine



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Subject: GESO: Driftwood Triptych



Details of a big driftlog:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/06/08/Driftwood-Triptych

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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[Steven Desjardins]

Actually, the other programming is NASCAR practice/qualifying and some
ARCA (NASCAR minor league) races.  I think Speed is required by law to
carry any NASCAR activity whatsoever whenever it's on.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:36:30AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>> Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
>> hours.  They intersperse other programming.
>
> Which my TiVo is recording.   Please do not post spoilers here - real
> life is interfering with my ability to devote time to watching this live.
>
> Then there's the IndyCar race, and Formula One.  It's a busy weekernd.
>
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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they should
> be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and
> the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and trucks
> can be severe.

Having spent all of a weekend (including a Friday) in Manhattan some 5
or 6 years ago (stayed with Ann!), I must disagree with you.  The
traffic speed seems to top out at no more than 30 km/h (20 mph) when
it's not gridlocked.  I'd much rather be right in the middle of a car
lane, going the speed of traffic where they cars can see me, than
stuck in a bike lane, on the periphery, subject to sudden swoops by
cars diving into and out of illegal parking spots, subject to car
doors being suddenly flung open into my face by disembarking
passengers, etc.

I love bike lanes.  If traffic isn't heavy, if there aren't too many
slow moving bikes, I'm there.  But if conditions make it safer for me
to be in a car lane, I really want that option.  It's much safer for
everybody that way.

cheers,
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Peso: For Bob W: Safety in Virginia

[Steven Desjardins]

Bob had commented on America's view of "personal protection".  I had
stooped at a small supermarket in Craigsville, VA while on an MC ride
to get a drink.   This was the aisle between canned goods and
bread/chips:

http://s857.photobucket.com/albums/ab138/drd1135/PDML/?action=view¤t=safety.jpg

Further down this aisle were ammunition and rifles/shotguns.  To
really appreciate this, you have to imagine this stuff in an urban
Tesco.

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Re: John Lennon gig

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Chris:  Those are fun, and I'm sorry we missed the gig--would have loved 
to hear to play and sing. 
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Eggmen_/slides/_IGP7020.html  Bob W is 
right--it's Cotty and Van Morrison.  I'll take Willie Nelson & someone else 
for the guy on the right.  I really like all the black and white shots as 
well.  K& did pretty good here with the ISO.  Cheers, Christine





- Original Message - 
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Subject: GESO: John Lennon gig



Stony Stratford has a week-long festival, Stony Live. A mate of mine
organised a John Lennon tribute evening with a band called the Eggmen
- and very good it was too.

These are very low light (using a K7 at 1600 and 3200 ISO)

http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Eggmen_/

I'm in one of them - I sang Hey You've Got to Hide Your Love Away. So
I am an Eggman. Goo goo goo joob...

Chris

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Re: GESO - Falling Joys

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Derby!  I really like these.  Cheers, Christine

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_06/11_06_fallingjoys/11.htm

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_06/11_06_fallingjoys/15.htm

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_06/11_06_fallingjoys/08.htm

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_06/11_06_fallingjoys/18.htm




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Hi everyone,

Falling Joys were one of the standouts in that short renaissance of Aussie 
indie girl and guitar driven bands back in the early 90's. They haven't 
played for 15 years, so this show was a cannot-miss. Very muscular sound


It's true. Use it or lose it. Haven't touched the old Limited lenses for a 
while, and haven't shot a music gig for even longer. My skillz of manual 
focusing, following the musicians, have been much depleted. Here are a few 
that lucked out.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_06/11_06_fallingjoys/index.htm


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Re: safety and photography?

[Christine Aguila]

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Subject: Re: safety and photography?


Awareness, keeping the equipment all hand and difficult to grab.
Always keep your eyes on what's going on around you.


Yep, that's about the best one can do!  Good advice, Godfrey!  Cheers, 
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Re: Peso Tail dance

[Christine Aguila]

Wow!  if you're shooting ISO 1600 on the K10D, that Lightroom 3 must be 
doing a heck of a job on noise reduction.  Great fun here, Dave!  I'd think 
a little blur for a tail dance would be appropriate, no?  Cheers, Christine




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To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Petch Dianne" 
; "Barbara Brooks" 

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:56 AM
Subject: Peso Tail dance



http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13390732

Taken last night. I had to use iso 1600 on the K10D but even that did
not give my a fast enough shutter speed.

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Re: June PUG is up!

[Christine Aguila]

Way to go PUGers!  Gallery looks great, Brian, and that's a heck of a fog 
shot.  Love the Sting Ray too, but I have to say I enjoyed the whole 
gallery!  Thanks for all your work on this.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
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Subject: June PUG is up!



G'day' all.

http://pug.komkon.org/

(If you see the previous gallery when you click that link, refresh the
page in your browser).

Some great stuff there and I can't pick a favourite but you really have
to take a look at Henk's "Hi, I'm your new neighbour!"...




Next up is "Strange" (which would have also fitted Henk's entry for June
nicely!) so that shouldn't be much of a stretch for most people here...

Cut off date for submissions is 30 June.

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
lens used is Pentax.

Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a colour
space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right on
line.  I usually check the colour space of submitted images but I've
been known to forget.





Cheers

Brian

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Re: OT Le Mans 24hours

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 07:36:30AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
> Speed has pretty good coverage, although they do not show the whole 24
> hours.  They intersperse other programming.

Which my TiVo is recording.   Please do not post spoilers here - real
life is interfering with my ability to devote time to watching this live.

Then there's the IndyCar race, and Formula One.  It's a busy weekernd.


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Peso Wings back

[David J Brooks]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13392392

Again a bit soft as i was focusing near the front and he came in from the back.

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Re: PESO: Egret Sunrise

[David J Brooks]

That is quite nice.

Dave

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Collected this modest image this AM. Kind of goes with an early AM mood.
> Soft random color tones are primarily the result of a low sun angle. I may 
> have nudged them a little. ;)
>
> Comments?
>
> Jack
>
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=607
>
> K5, DA 55~300@300mm, f/8, 1/800s, ISO 800, about 1/3 crop, drive by
>
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Re: PESO 2011 - 094 & 095 - GDG

[David J Brooks]

I really like the second one

Dave

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> From walks in Bronxville, NY last month:
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/in/photostream/lightbox/
> or
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314703/
>
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/in/photostream/lightbox/
> or
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/5819314767/
>
> thanks for looking. comments always appreciated.
>
> Godfrey
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Re: Peso Tail dance

[David J Brooks]

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Aptly titled, Dave. May I ask, what is your editing process? Do you use a 
> photo editing program or..? Are the images taken straight from the memory 
> card and used without any intervening editing? If so, then it's your choice 
> and they are perfect!
> Thanks!
>
> Jack

Jack. Files transferred to a folder which is then opened in LR3. For
these i usually crop as i am shooting loose so i have a better chance
of getting the landing, take off etc. Then a WB adjust some sharpening
and noise reduction as most of these are at iso 1250 or higher,all
done on an iMac with brightness still a ??? mark.

Is there a problem i'm not seeing.

Dave
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sat, 6/11/11, David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>> From: David J Brooks 
>> Subject: Peso Tail dance
>> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Petch Dianne" 
>> , "Barbara Brooks" 
>> Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 6:56 AM
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13390732
>>
>> Taken last night. I had to use iso 1600 on the K10D but
>> even that did
>> not give my a fast enough shutter speed.
>>
>> Dave
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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Boris Liberman]

On 6/11/2011 18:48, Christine Nielsen wrote:

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping&
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?


Christine, the on-line reviews of 18-135 are a mixed bag. I attribute it 
either to significant sample variation or to potential bias of the 
reviewer.


Ultimately it depends on your shooting style and your willingness to 
carry bulk and weight. Personally, I traveled several times with a small 
set of primes (21, 43, 77 or even 21 and 50) and it worked for me. I 
don't particularly like shooting longer than 77 mm on APS-C camera so 
that I cannot say too much about 50-135. Assuming Barcelona is similar 
to Oslo, Brussels, London or Prague that I visited, (speaking purely 
photographically, of course) I'd go for a quality wider lens and worry 
less for telephoto end.


It would make Pentax great good to introduce DA* 16-50 with the same AF 
motor as there is in 18-135, but I recall they said specifically that 
they won't...


Boris

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Christine:For our recent trip, I took the DA 21mm & the DA* 50-135mm. 
The DA 21 covered indoor museum, storefront streetscape, playful portraits 
of Darrel on the street, you know, the usual playful tourist walkabout 
stuff.   I needed the 50-135mm for the distance stuff--domes of buildings, 
as well as for close-up architectural details--and the 50-135mm is good for 
*across the street* reportage.  If you will be in the country side at all, 
you'll probably want the 50-135mm as well.  I love the DA 21mm as much as I 
love the DA* 50-135mm.  If for some reason I had to go ultra, ultra light, 
I'd take the DA 21mm & the FA 50mm 1.4.


As to lens swapping, I try to think about what our day's itinerary is and 
start with the most appropriate lens--works pretty good, but, of course, 
there are always exceptions and you have to lens change, but that's just 
part of photography.  HTH.  Have a great trip!  Cheers, Christine/Chicago




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Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 10:48 AM
Subject: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?



Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping &
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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Re: Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Ecke PDML]

Tempted. But now that I have the FA 28-105/3.2-4.5 I'll rather shop
for a zoom that goes wider than my DA*16-50 so I won't be able to
report.
Sorry
Ecke

2011/6/11 Christine Nielsen :
> Hello all,
>
> Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?
>
> I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
> experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
> packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
> kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
> along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
> But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping &
> lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
> plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
> own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
> fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.
>
> My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
> you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
> for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
> light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
> say you?
>
> I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
> have to seek help on another list for that one.
>
> :)
> Thanks,
> -c
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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[Bob W]

> On the roads, yes.  In the cities, where the weave in and out of
> traffic and try to cut off taxis, it is very hazardous to the cyclists
> and to the pedestrians.  I have seen pedestrians in Manhattan forced
> into a coming taxi to avoid being run over by charging bicycles.
> 
> Dan
> 

Er, London is a city too. Do you really believe that because some cyclists 
break the law all cyclists should be forced into unsafe behaviour? How about if 
all motorists were forced into unsafe behaviour because some of them break the 
law?

B

> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Bob W  wrote:
> >>
> >> If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they
> should
> >> be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and
> >> the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and
> trucks
> >> can be severe.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >
> > Compulsory cycle lanes make cycling less safe for cyclists,
> pedestrians and
> > motor traffic, particularly at junctions.
> >
> > Cycling is a very safe activity, and the more cyclists mix with the
> other
> > traffic, the safer all the traffic becomes. This may seem counter-
> intuitive
> > but the evidence from London over recent years clearly supports it,
> as does
> > my own experience.
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > The best way to reduce the number and severity of accidents is to
> improve
> > the training of all road users, and to design roads giving equal
> > consideration to all, instead of designing in favour of one section
> of the
> > road-using population.
> >
> > B
> >
> >> > Great video here about a guy's response to being ticketed for not
> >> cycling in
> >> > the bike lane:
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> > Ironically he shouldn't have been ticketed, because it's not a
> legal
> >> > requirement to use them.
> >> >
> >> > B
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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Ann Sanfedele]

Bob W wrote:


The best way to reduce the number and severity of accidents is to improve
the training of all road users, and to design roads giving equal
consideration to all, instead of designing in favour of one section of the
road-using population.

B

 

Never been to New York, have you? :-)  


a


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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Ann Sanfedele]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they should
be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and
the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and trucks
can be severe.

Dan
 


Great video here about a guy's response to being ticketed for not cycling in
the bike lane:


Ironically he shouldn't have been ticketed, because it's not a legal
requirement to use them.



It is  or will soon be... if there is a bike lane and it isn't blocked.. 
The guy that did the video likes the bike lanes he was just pointing 
out that
the bike lanes were often blocked by trucks unloading, people standing 
in them, etc.  (I heard him interviewed on local news station a couple 
of times)  

The bike lanes have helped  on major streets but not all streets have 
them so, of course,
if there is no lane a bike can still ride on it - but must obey the one 
way directions, stop signs,

speed limit - etc that cars do.  That isn't happening all the time.

The other day a father with is toddler on the bike with him was going 
the wrong way on my
street and when I was crossing , having looked in the dirction the 
traffic comes from legally, he
shouted "watch out"  I  called back "you're going the wrong way" and he 
TURNS and shouts back "but

I called "watch out" (!)

Every time I go out I see bikers going the wrong way  in a bike lane, 
riding on the sidewalk, not riding in the lanes
when they are clear,  speeding, not stopping at lights... and they 
aren't getting ticketed for that often enough.  

Mostly it has been a great help to pedestrian safety, tho. .. especially 
the parked cars not being right on the curb


ann


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Pentax SMC DA 18-135mm, anyone?

[Christine Nielsen]

Hello all,

Curious if anyone has tried or been tempted by this one?

I'll be traveling to Barcelona in a couple of weeks, and am
experiencing a pre-trip enablement crisis of sorts.  Last summer, I
packed light for our summer vacation, with only one 17-70 lens, and I
kind of regretted it.  So, this summer, my original plan was to bring
along my k-7, the sigma 17-70 lens, the pentax 50-135, and 50/1.4.
But, I wonder how much patience I'll have for lens-swapping &
lens-schlepping on the family vaca, and maybe the 18-135 (for day),
plus the 50/1.4 (evening wear) is a better solution.  Then again,  why
own the lovely 50-135, and not bring it?  OTOH, I bet the 18-135 is a
fine substitute for the sigma, though not as fast by a stop.

My dilemma gets down to the question of the "travel" lens... assuming
you are not on photo safari, does it make sense to have a super-zoom
for travel, and leave the super-nice lens at home?  Security, packing
light, ease of use all factor in... but, also image quality... what
say you?

I am also experiencing a pre-trip wardrobe crisis, but I think I'll
have to seek help on another list for that one.

:)
Thanks,
-c

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Re: OT: Cycling in New York

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On the roads, yes.  In the cities, where the weave in and out of
traffic and try to cut off taxis, it is very hazardous to the cyclists
and to the pedestrians.  I have seen pedestrians in Manhattan forced
into a coming taxi to avoid being run over by charging bicycles.

Dan

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>>
>> If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they should
>> be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and
>> the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and trucks
>> can be severe.
>>
>> Dan
>
> Compulsory cycle lanes make cycling less safe for cyclists, pedestrians and
> motor traffic, particularly at junctions.
>
> Cycling is a very safe activity, and the more cyclists mix with the other
> traffic, the safer all the traffic becomes. This may seem counter-intuitive
> but the evidence from London over recent years clearly supports it, as does
> my own experience.
>
> 
>
> 
>
> The best way to reduce the number and severity of accidents is to improve
> the training of all road users, and to design roads giving equal
> consideration to all, instead of designing in favour of one section of the
> road-using population.
>
> B
>
>> > Great video here about a guy's response to being ticketed for not
>> cycling in
>> > the bike lane:
>> > 
>> >
>> > Ironically he shouldn't have been ticketed, because it's not a legal
>> > requirement to use them.
>> >
>> > B
>> >
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Re: Peso Tail dance

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nicely caught.  I like the way the tail feathers are spread for his
landing or takeoff.

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:56 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13390732
>
> Taken last night. I had to use iso 1600 on the K10D but even that did
> not give my a fast enough shutter speed.
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Re: Peso Tail dance

[Jack Davis]

Aptly titled, Dave. May I ask, what is your editing process? Do you use a photo 
editing program or..? Are the images taken straight from the memory card and 
used without any intervening editing? If so, then it's your choice and they are 
perfect!
Thanks!

Jack




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> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: Peso Tail dance
> To: "Pentax Discuss" , "Petch Dianne" 
> , "Barbara Brooks" 
> Date: Saturday, June 11, 2011, 6:56 AM
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13390732
> 
> Taken last night. I had to use iso 1600 on the K10D but
> even that did
> not give my a fast enough shutter speed.
> 
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RE: OT: Cycling in New York

[Bob W]

> 
> If they aren't required to use the bike lanes in New York, they should
> be.  The traffic, especially in Manhattan, is buy and hazardous, and
> the conflict between bikes, pedestrians, cars, taxis, buses and trucks
> can be severe.
> 
> Dan

Compulsory cycle lanes make cycling less safe for cyclists, pedestrians and
motor traffic, particularly at junctions. 

Cycling is a very safe activity, and the more cyclists mix with the other
traffic, the safer all the traffic becomes. This may seem counter-intuitive
but the evidence from London over recent years clearly supports it, as does
my own experience.





The best way to reduce the number and severity of accidents is to improve
the training of all road users, and to design roads giving equal
consideration to all, instead of designing in favour of one section of the
road-using population.

B

> > Great video here about a guy's response to being ticketed for not
> cycling in
> > the bike lane:
> > 
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Peso Tail dance

[David J Brooks]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13390732

Taken last night. I had to use iso 1600 on the K10D but even that did
not give my a fast enough shutter speed.

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Re: Sigma 150mm macro lens

[Mark Cassino]

Well, I won't hold my breath looking for the 180, but you never know...

 A while back some guy called my cell phone out of the blue (no idea who he 
was) 
- he was looking at my website and was wondering about the very rare FA* 400 
f5.6, I never heard back from him, but he thought he saw one for sale in a US 
Customs auction for only a couple hundred dollars... The guy who called was 
questioning if the listing was even accurate, since he could not find evidence 
that this lens ever existed. I pointed him to Bodz's site - don't know if he 
got 
the lens or not, but it gives hope!



- Original Message 
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Subject: Re: Sigma 150mm macro lens

Mark Cassino wrote:

> Any thoughts on the Sigma 150 or other options that might be out there? 

If the new Sigma 150 macro is comparable to the old 180 I wouldn't hesitate. I 
have the Sigma 180/3.5 macro and it's is simply amazing. Probably the second 
sharpest lens I own (behind the 77 Ltd). You'll probably never see a used 
example because those who own one are unlikely to sell. Ever. Check the online 
reviews of the 150. I seem to recall it being very good.

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OT: The way to win over city hall

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A fine example about how to sell your company and its proposed new development:

http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2011/06/08/apples-steve-jobs-shows-proposal-for-stunning-new-apple-hq/

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Re: Sigma 150mm macro lens

[Mark Cassino]

And maybe the Sigma 180 as well...



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Subject: RE: Sigma 150mm macro lens


I don't have any suggestions as far as alternatives go, but were I in 
your situation I think I would contact KEH and have them put the A* & 
FA* 200 macro on a "wish list" for me, so that if they got one in they'd 
let me know about it first thing.

Might not help, but it couldn't hurt.

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Re: Sigma 150mm macro lens

[Mark Cassino]

Yeah - I hope the verdict from Pentax is positive. Otherwise, I might hav eto 
learn how to take another kind of photo.

Still waiting to test the D-FA an dTeleconverter. The cold, wet, and cloudy 
weather is not helping.



- Original Message 
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Subject: RE: Sigma 150mm macro lens

A shame, Mark, the A 200 was your money lens.  I hope they can restore it.

I agree with Mark Roberts, the Sigma 180 is a very good lens, sharp and an
interesting bokeh.  Mine did break after about a year and a half, the
aperture quit working. Sigma was able to repair it, and it works fine still.
If their 150 is comparable, it would be a worthy replacement. But let's hope
you wont need to.

Bill Sawyer

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Subject: Re: Sigma 150mm macro lens

Mark Cassino wrote:

> Any thoughts on the Sigma 150 or other options that might be out there? 

If the new Sigma 150 macro is comparable to the old 180 I wouldn't 
hesitate. I have the Sigma 180/3.5 macro and it's is simply amazing. 
Probably the second sharpest lens I own (behind the 77 Ltd). You'll 
probably never see a used example because those who own one are unlikely 
to sell. Ever. Check the online reviews of the 150. I seem to recall it 
being very good.

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Re: Peso's First IR of the season

[David J Brooks]

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:13 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:59 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> From this past Sundays drive.
>>
>> house with mailbox in IR
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13365813
>>
>> Fungi fun:
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=13365812
>>
>> Canon G3 converted. Shot in colour mode with custom WB and adjusted in
>> LR using WB tool and blue filter.
>
> I especially like the house - has a "real" IR feel to it!

It should, i added fake IR grain.:-)

Thanks Frank

Dave
>
> cheers,
> frank
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