Re: 1966 - Flying Zero-G Photo Lab

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister

Depends on what your religious beliefs are…  All of them define some sort of 
destination!

That, and many of the science based pretty picture educational programs of late 
are depicting the earth becoming enveloped within the expanding surface of the 
sun some millions or billions of years from now. That would be the scientific 
definition of our destination. Or was it the black hole?  Hah! 99\99th power of 
humans alive will never know the answer.  grin

On Aug 27, 2011, at 10:19 , P. J. Alling wrote:

 Since there's no set destination, you really mean we're going nowhere fast...
 
 On 8/26/2011 4:37 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote:
 on Aug 25, 2011, at 15:30 , Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Tom,
 I remember those days.
 I credit the pictures of Earth from space with starting the
 environmental movement.
 How could you ignore the mindset that we were all just passengers on
 this planet.
 I think they were the most impactful images of the last century.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 Added to that amazing revelation is the fact that the marble we crap on so 
 frequently is hurtling through the vacuum of space at over 540,000 miles per 
 hour, and that's just it's orbital speed. It doesn't include the miniscule 
 speed we experience on the surface because of the Earth's rotation, nor the 
 possibly humugous speed that we are zipping along doing our part in the 
 expansion of the universe. We don't know relative to what, but we do know we 
 are going there pretty quickly.

Joseph McAllister
pentax...@mac.com

“ Nature is considerably more creative and inventive than humankind. Without 
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Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters

 The main requirements are:
 
 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels

Godfrey mentioned a few weeks ago that pictures on my website seemed quite
small at 600x400. I orignally chose this when the PUG was limited to 700px
on the long since because it covers the 35mm ratios easily, whereas 700
doesn't quite. 

I replied to Godfrey that my normal maximum for the long edge now is 720px
because it subdivides nicely and means that every picture can have the same
size long edge, which is good for consistency on the website. For example
4/3rds is 720x540, normal 35mm dimensions are 720x480.

The maximum of 800 has the same problem (perhaps too strong a word) as 700
in that for some aspect ratios setting the long side to 800px means that the
short edge ends up as a fraction so you have to let your resizing software
choose which pixels to remove. For example, 35mm dimensions become
800x533.3... So the biggest you can actually have without this monkeying
about is 798, whereas for 4/3rds you'd get the whole lot in 800. 

This means that the website is likely to have different maximum dimensions
on each page, which makes for a jerky and inconsistent appearance in the
page transitions.

Purely by coincidence, when I was googling something work-related last week
I found a website which pointed out that 960 is one of those magic numbers
like 720 which subdivides into zillions of different whole numbers, namely:
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives you plenty of options for
different dimensions and cropping, while retaining that important
consistency.

Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.

B

 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
 or
 lens used is Pentax.
 
 Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a
 colour
 space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right
 on
 line.  I usually check the colour space of submitted images but I've
 been known to forget.



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Re: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
Thanks Walt. I like that one as well.

I tell people it's not that his ears are so big. It's that his head is so small.

His name, Siutik (See-You-Tick), is native Alaskan for ears, forget which 
tribe or dialect, but I found it in an online dictionary that had severeal 
hundred words translated into english. Being a dog he only really responds to 
the -tick part of the word, at least that's when he responds. The the first two 
syllables are just a slurry preamble that probably has nothing to do with him.

The same is true of my 5 year old Canaan Dog's name, Alornerk 
(Ah-lore-nerk)(Alornerque for our friends in and around Montreal). I usually 
just call him 'Nerk for the same reason as above. And his name means Under 
Foot or Underfoot in a Inuit language. But I could never decide if it meant 
the former more literal meaning as under my foot or the latter one I wanted, 
which describes most any herding dog's puppy-hood.

All right, I'll go to bed. Looks like the eastern seaboard will still be there 
by Monday. Referring to someone's earlier post about the non-catastrophy, I 
have been rolling my eyes at the talking heads hyper-descriptive blather for a 
week now. Good to prepare the masses, but not by sounding so much like a wolf, 
or the next one will get 'em.

On Aug 27, 2011, at 09:16 , Walt Gilbert wrote:

 That's a great-looking, Dingo-esque dog, Joseph!  I especially liked this one:
 
 http://gallery.me.com/jomac#100480/JJM79093bgcolor=black
 
 Love the ears.
 
 -- Walt

If it doesn’t excite you,
This thing that you see,
Why in the world,
Would it excite me?
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Re: PESO - Frogmouth

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
Funky-looking bird, isn't he?  It occurs to me that he probably
camoflages pretty well with Bart's shirt, too... Nice image!

:)
-c
(sleepless in Boston, waiting on Irene...)

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 G'day all

 These birds are masters of camouflage.  They are night hunters and spend
 the day sitting motionless on a tree, looking like a dead branch.

 The heavy duty glove isn't necessary for this guy - that glove had to
 support a large eagle a bit later.



 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2603a-peso.html


 Cheers

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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
My new look for fall!

:)
-c

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Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone?

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
Very amusing!  If only he had a new phone, imagine the transformation...!

:)
-c

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:02 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 For some reason I thought this was funny:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/08/need-new-phone.html

 Hope you do, too.  Comments always welcome.

 cheers.
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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 28, 2011, at 00:11 , Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters
 
 The main requirements are:
 
 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
 
 Godfrey mentioned a few weeks ago that pictures on my website seemed quite
 small at 600x400. I orignally chose this when the PUG was limited to 700px
 on the long since because it covers the 35mm ratios easily, whereas 700
 doesn't quite. 
 
  - SNIP -

 Purely by coincidence, when I was googling something work-related last week
 I found a website which pointed out that 960 is one of those magic numbers
 like 720 which subdivides into zillions of different whole numbers, namely:
 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
 120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives you plenty of options for
 different dimensions and cropping, while retaining that important
 consistency.
 
 Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.

Good Lord, Bob, you do need a hobby.  Thank you, however, for setting it up so 
I can say I agree.

We must not resample except on the inter-pixel space lest we skew and smear 
color interpolations.


Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 1:59 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm just getting a little tired of the hype, Irene is most likely to come
 ashore as a category one, maybe even as a tropical storm, dangerous yes, but
 unless you actually live in a flood zone, it's probably better to stay put
 rather than evacuate.  When this proves to be a meh event, it will be much
 harder to get people pay attention when that category four shows up to smash
 things...


I'm with you.  The hype has been non-stop for at least three days
now My favorite moment of tonight's broadcast came when they
showed footage of empty New York streets, and the newscasters were
overcome with surprise -- Imagine, Saturday night in NYC  no one is
out?!  Well, you've been telling people for days to run for the
hills what did you expect?

I certainly wouldn't want to make light of the potential danger, but
the breathless, continuous  gleeful coverage of not much is getting
old.

-c
(sleepless, cranky  still waiting in Boston...)
;)

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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Brian Walters
Bloody hell, Bob!  Isn't it summer over there?  Shouldn't you be
outdoors doing summer-y things?  Perhaps it's raining.

However - thanks for the insight.  I've placed this discussion in my
'hold' folder for future reference and/or to pass on to the next
PUG-meister should he/she be brave enough to raise the image dimensions
issue again.



Cheers

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On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 08:11 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
  Brian Walters
 
  The main requirements are:
  
  * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
 
 Godfrey mentioned a few weeks ago that pictures on my website seemed
 quite
 small at 600x400. I orignally chose this when the PUG was limited to
 700px
 on the long since because it covers the 35mm ratios easily, whereas 700
 doesn't quite. 
 
 I replied to Godfrey that my normal maximum for the long edge now is
 720px
 because it subdivides nicely and means that every picture can have the
 same
 size long edge, which is good for consistency on the website. For example
 4/3rds is 720x540, normal 35mm dimensions are 720x480.
 
 The maximum of 800 has the same problem (perhaps too strong a word) as
 700
 in that for some aspect ratios setting the long side to 800px means that
 the
 short edge ends up as a fraction so you have to let your resizing
 software
 choose which pixels to remove. For example, 35mm dimensions become
 800x533.3... So the biggest you can actually have without this
 monkeying
 about is 798, whereas for 4/3rds you'd get the whole lot in 800. 
 
 This means that the website is likely to have different maximum
 dimensions
 on each page, which makes for a jerky and inconsistent appearance in the
 page transitions.
 
 Purely by coincidence, when I was googling something work-related last
 week
 I found a website which pointed out that 960 is one of those magic
 numbers
 like 720 which subdivides into zillions of different whole numbers,
 namely:
 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
 120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives you plenty of options for
 different dimensions and cropping, while retaining that important
 consistency.
 
 Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.
 
 B
 
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Re: PESO - Frogmouth

2011-08-28 Thread Brian Walters
On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 03:47 -0400, Christine Nielsen
ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Funky-looking bird, isn't he?  It occurs to me that he probably
 camoflages pretty well with Bart's shirt, too... Nice image!


Funky?  Yes, that's a good way to describe him.
  

 -c
 (sleepless in Boston, waiting on Irene...)


Keep safe and dry.


Cheers

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 On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:
  G'day all
 
  These birds are masters of camouflage.  They are night hunters and spend
  the day sitting motionless on a tree, looking like a dead branch.
 
  The heavy duty glove isn't necessary for this guy - that glove had to
  support a large eagle a bit later.
 
 
 
  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2603a-peso.html
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Brian
 
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RE: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister


  Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.
 
 Good Lord, Bob, you do need a hobby. 

Perhaps I should take up photography.



 Thank you, however, for setting
 it up so I can say I agree.
 
 We must not resample except on the inter-pixel space lest we skew and
 smear color interpolations.
 



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RE: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 Bloody hell, Bob!  Isn't it summer over there?  Shouldn't you be
 outdoors doing summer-y things?  Perhaps it's raining.
 

Is it still raining? I hadn't noticed. It's been a long wet summer.





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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:11 AM, Bob W wrote:

 
 
 Purely by coincidence, when I was googling something work-related last week
 I found a website which pointed out that 960 is one of those magic numbers
 like 720 which subdivides into zillions of different whole numbers, namely:
 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
 120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives you plenty of options for
 different dimensions and cropping, while retaining that important
 consistency.

Interesting, that must be where 1440 and 1920 as screen dimensions come from.

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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a lovely hobby.

I am equally impressed by your numeristics.  I also like numbers like
720 because I can do the math in my head more easily.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:


 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Joseph McAllister


  Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.

 Good Lord, Bob, you do need a hobby.

 Perhaps I should take up photography.



 Thank you, however, for setting
 it up so I can say I agree.

 We must not resample except on the inter-pixel space lest we skew and
 smear color interpolations.




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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 2, 4, 5, 6, 8,

Who do we appreciate

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GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Brian Walters
Hi all

First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.

The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot. 
The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
*istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.

I hope you enjoy this small selection:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.

Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.  

For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
land speed record by Donald Campbell.

Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
 It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
interest in flights over the lake.

The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife  kid are out of town).

A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
is on the second floor ;-)

Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...
 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Mark Roberts wrote:

I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
15-foot tree come down on his house

Make that a 150-foot tree! 

 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread John Sessoms
While it was a non-event for me personally, I don't want to make light 
of the effect it might have had on others.


The high winds, even at Cat 1, were enough to topple trees  killed at 
least 2 people here in NC. And beyond the property damage, the flooding 
endangers human lives as well.


Something else I heard on the news is the wind-speeds quoted are 
surface winds. The speed increases above the surface  in NYC poses a 
danger to high-rise buildings from blowing out the glass, so that you 
have a danger inside from wind driven broken glass  a danger below from 
falling glass.


And I heard that the NYC subway system has been shut down for the first 
time ever due to the danger of storm surge driven flooding. I don't 
reckon it would take too many feet of surge to put some station 
entrances under water. I'm sure they have pumps to empty the system out, 
but I doubt they have the capacity to handle the mass of water that 
could introduce. At least not in the short term.



From: P. J. Alling

I'm just getting a little tired of the hype, Irene is most likely to
come ashore as a category one, maybe even as a tropical storm, dangerous
yes, but unless you actually live in a flood zone, it's probably better
to stay put rather than evacuate.  When this proves to be a meh event,
it will be much harder to get people pay attention when that category
four shows up to smash things...

On 8/27/2011 2:11 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Christine Aguila

Stay safe, John!  cheers, Christine

It's pretty much been a non-event around here so far. There's some
news of flooding down east, but it doesn't look like even that's too
serious.

I'm sure there's a good bit of property damage, but it looks like it's
more from there being a lot denser population in eastern NC now than
in the days of the legendary hurricanes like Hazel. More property
there to be damaged, rather than from the power of this storm.

The greatest effect for me personally is I got distracted checking the
weather  forgot what I was doing. Diced my tomato instead of slicing
it, so I ended up using it to make an omelet instead of a BLT
sandwich.  8-D



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Re: Query: What Pentax Camera Are You Using?

2011-08-28 Thread John Sessoms

And he didn't even have PhotoShop to clone out the holes.

From: P. J. Alling

Worked for Audubon. On 8/25/2011 3:00 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

How did people cope with birds in flight  such BEFORE there was even AF?


Shotgun.

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OT Like water off a ducks back

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
I have shingles:
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
Well done. Great colours here.

There is a young lady in town that is a Toronto fire fighter, and this
is what she dress's like on her off days. It sure turns heads in a
farm community.:-)

Dave

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Re: PESO - Rest Stop

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
Well seen nice colours here

Dave

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 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14096172size=lg

 k5, da* 60-250 @ 180 mm, f4, 1/3200th, flash fill, ISO 400

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Re: PESO Men working, at night

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
Thats very good

Dave

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On my way home last night, I liked the effect of the lights PGE was using to 
 illuminate their work:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6086427744/
 K-5 FA77, 1/50 f/1.8 ISO 400

 Most of the rest of the set is tighter in on the guys working, with the 
 A*200/2.8
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Re: OT Like water off a ducks back

2011-08-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
LOL!

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The wind has been a non-event in my area, but I have never seen it
rain so hard for so long.  Since the ground had already been saturated
by the wettest August on record, there is nowhere for the water to go,
and there is minor flooding all over.  Flooding may get worse as the
rivers rise with the flows from upstream.

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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:29 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 While it was a non-event for me personally, I don't want to make light of
 the effect it might have had on others.

 The high winds, even at Cat 1, were enough to topple trees  killed at least
 2 people here in NC. And beyond the property damage, the flooding endangers
 human lives as well.

 Something else I heard on the news is the wind-speeds quoted are surface
 winds. The speed increases above the surface  in NYC poses a danger to
 high-rise buildings from blowing out the glass, so that you have a danger
 inside from wind driven broken glass  a danger below from falling glass.

 And I heard that the NYC subway system has been shut down for the first time
 ever due to the danger of storm surge driven flooding. I don't reckon it
 would take too many feet of surge to put some station entrances under water.
 I'm sure they have pumps to empty the system out, but I doubt they have the
 capacity to handle the mass of water that could introduce. At least not in
 the short term.


 From: P. J. Alling

 I'm just getting a little tired of the hype, Irene is most likely to
 come ashore as a category one, maybe even as a tropical storm, dangerous
 yes, but unless you actually live in a flood zone, it's probably better
 to stay put rather than evacuate.  When this proves to be a meh event,
 it will be much harder to get people pay attention when that category
 four shows up to smash things...

 On 8/27/2011 2:11 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

 From: Christine Aguila

 Stay safe, John!  cheers, Christine

 It's pretty much been a non-event around here so far. There's some
 news of flooding down east, but it doesn't look like even that's too
 serious.

 I'm sure there's a good bit of property damage, but it looks like it's
 more from there being a lot denser population in eastern NC now than
 in the days of the legendary hurricanes like Hazel. More property
 there to be damaged, rather than from the power of this storm.

 The greatest effect for me personally is I got distracted checking the
 weather  forgot what I was doing. Diced my tomato instead of slicing
 it, so I ended up using it to make an omelet instead of a BLT
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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a fascinating gallery illustrating an unusual and scenic part
of the world.  I especially love the last image, of the shadow of the
landing pane.  Well seen and well rendered.

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On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hi all

 First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
 photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
 trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.

 The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot.
 The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
 two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
 difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
 K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
 the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
 eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
 proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
 part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
 *istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
 in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.

 I hope you enjoy this small selection:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

 Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
 they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
 adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
 processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
 of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
 and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
 sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.

 Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
 enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.

 For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
 huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
 covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
 few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
 lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
 lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
 land speed record by Donald Campbell.

 Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
 in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
  It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
 population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
 location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
 interest in flights over the lake.

 The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
 hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
 not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Brian Walters

On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 08:34 -0500, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice shots, Brian!

Like others, I do like the second one best.  I don't know if they're all
very similar in appearance, but that one has a deceptively domesticated
look about it.  They're pretty handsome beasts compared to the mangy
coyotes we have around here.

And just think how notable an event it would've been in NZ!

(Also, I like that word, fossicking -- had to look it up.)



That's interesting.  I thought 'fossicking' was international in meaning
but a bit of Googling suggests it originated in Cornwall and probably
got into Australia via Cornish miners.

Yes, dingos all look more or less like the one in the photo. They look
like domesticated dogs because they have the same origin.  It's thought
that dingos arrived in Aus several thousand years ago with people
migrating from the north when sea levels were lower.  Those thousands of
years of isolation have caused them to develop into a stable 'breed'.


One of the things I like about the list is all the new things I learn 
looking up other stuff that catches my interest while reading the list, 
and where it takes me from there.


Just yesterday, while enjoying the patter of rain-drops on my window, I 
read about Dingos, Dogs, Coyotes, Pleistocene/Holocene boundary, Dire 
Wolves, Isostatic Rebound, and Brumbys, Chincoteague Ponies  Banker Horses.


It seems that a number of wild dogs resemble the Dingo, even one of 
our own, the Carolina Dog, which I had never heard of until I hit the 
link from the Wikipedia article on Dingos.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog

There's speculation that the Dingo form represents *the* primitive dog, 
what the dog looked like some 15,000 plus years ago when it was first 
domesticated; a natural breed standard if you will.


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RE: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters
[...]
 
 I hope you enjoy this small selection:
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html
 

Stand up and take a bow, Mr  Mrs Arthus-Bertrand. That's a very enjoyable
set. I particularly like the sand spits, especially the one covered in
birds, and the shots of the Painted Hills are (sorry!) the best of the lot.
Perfect light. Looks like it was good fun too.

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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Larry, Ann, Christine and Dave.  The window display certainly
caught my eye.  It was a cloudy evening, so I had trouble with the
light, and the reflections in the glass, but it came out better than I
had expected.

Dan

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 Great use of color, composition, sense of depth, and whimsy. Mustn't forget 
 the whimsy.

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RE: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steven Desjardins
 
 It's a lovely hobby.
 
 I am equally impressed by your numeristics.  

Thanks, but I've really like coin-collecting.

 I also like numbers like
 720 because I can do the math in my head more easily.
 
yes. If it was up to me I'd replace all the primes with more easily
divisible numbers. It would save us all a lot of trouble.

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2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
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 David J Brooks
 
 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
  2, 4, 5, 6, 8,
 
 Who do we appreciate
 

_whom_ do we appreciate!

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PESO: Fashion is all about color

2011-08-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14097817

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Boys are always boys...

2011-08-28 Thread Roman Melihhov
http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20110828163601
^^^ look at this last photo. At this very delicate age boys are still boys...

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
particularly when they fall on houses.
 
But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East River 
meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell from trees 
and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the devastation. 
Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work tomorrow, since 
Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways until Monday night.

Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.

A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely predictable.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
 15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
 out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife  kid are out of town).
 
 A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
 overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
 is on the second floor ;-)
 
 Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...
 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Boy, Paul ...
If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you 
would be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.


Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of 
view of the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief

than what went on last winter...

The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the 
subway system was just right... there have been problems constantly with 
normal rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends 
have been devoted to limited service recently for repairs as it is but 
there would be any number of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and 
getting themselves hurt or worse.


There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably 
are a ton of them.


The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by 
hurricane standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.


I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he 
thinks it is only on the second floor.


Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
Not much open around here.

What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
that continues.

ann



On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
particularly when they fall on houses.

But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East River 
meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell from trees 
and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the devastation. 
Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work tomorrow, since 
Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways until Monday night.

Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.

A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely predictable.

Paul
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife  kid are out of town).

A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
is on the second floor ;-)

Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Boy, Paul ...
 If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you 
 would be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.

My daughters, who live on the first floor, were out and about this morning. 
Couldn't find any damage or flooding. I think the news stations were so into 
their disaster coverage, they went out of their way to find the singular 
toppled tree or flooded street. All the data says it turned out to be not much 
more than a summer storm. Yes, Bloomberg blew it on the snowstorm and 
apparently overcompensated here. But you're right, overkill beats the 
alternative every time.

Paul



 
 Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
 as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of view of 
 the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief
 than what went on last winter...
 
 The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the subway 
 system was just right... there have been problems constantly with normal 
 rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends have been 
 devoted to limited service recently for repairs as it is but there would be 
 any number of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and getting themselves 
 hurt or worse.
 
 There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably are a 
 ton of them.
 
 The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by hurricane 
 standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.
 
 I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he thinks 
 it is only on the second floor.
 
 Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
 Not much open around here.
 
 What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
 heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
 that continues.
 
 ann
 
 
 
 On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
 particularly when they fall on houses.
 
 But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
 Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East 
 River meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell 
 from trees and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the 
 devastation. Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work 
 tomorrow, since Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways 
 until Monday night.
 
 Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.
 
 A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely 
 predictable.
 
 Paul
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
 15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
 out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife  kid are out of town).
 
 A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
 overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
 is on the second floor ;-)
 
 Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...
 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
I remember Tom and just found his wedding photography business in DC.
I presume his wife is the famous #6 (or was it #7) assistant.
It's good to see he's doing well and they look happy.
His wedding photos always had an amazing relaxed/natural quality to them.
I think he must be quite talented at making people feel comfortable.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Stan Halpin
I think #7. IIRC #6 wasn't around very long - wasn't she the one who tripped 
and broke two flash heads and a light stand? 

stan

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 Mark,
 I remember Tom and just found his wedding photography business in DC.
 I presume his wife is the famous #6 (or was it #7) assistant.
 It's good to see he's doing well and they look happy.
 His wedding photos always had an amazing relaxed/natural quality to them.
 I think he must be quite talented at making people feel comfortable.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
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 Mark Roberts wrote:
 
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 15-foot tree come down on his house
 
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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 07:54:04AM -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote:
 It's a lovely hobby.
 
 I am equally impressed by your numeristics.  I also like numbers like
 720 because I can do the math in my head more easily.

It still comes a bit of a surprise to me that this isn't obvious -
I've been thinking that way so long that I sometimes forget that not
everybody thinks that way.

The ancient Babylonians (who had no everyday concept of fractions)
used a base 60 representation for just that reason; you can divide
60 by all the common small numbers (2, 3, 4, 5 and 6) with no remainder.
[You see remnants of the Babylonians today in measuring time and angles]

Basically, any size that is a multiple of 60 would work reasonably well.
That would cover most of the usual aspect ratios. The most noticeable
omission would be the 16:9 aspect ration of HDTV (and many widescreen
computer monitors), but even that can be achieved by a multiple of 240.
That means that maximum dimensions of 720 or 960 are convenient choices.


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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
They shut down the T (subway - much of it is above ground) here at
8:30 this morning and within half an hour there was a tree down
blocking one of the major lines. Several stations are flooded out from
what I hear. They expect to have it running by tomorrow morning and I
wouldn't be surprised if NYC's subway is running tomorrow as well if
they can get the stations pumped out overnight.

Lots of tree branches coming down on our street. No entire trees,
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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Brian,
Like Dan says, great stuff!
It's a big gallery, but facinating all the way thru.
I love ths shot of the plane landing.  Wow!
Regards,  Bob S.

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 That is a fascinating gallery illustrating an unusual and scenic part
 of the world.  I especially love the last image, of the shadow of the
 landing pane.  Well seen and well rendered.

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 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hi all

 First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
 photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
 trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.

 The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot.
 The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
 two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
 difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
 K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
 the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
 eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
 proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
 part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
 *istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
 in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.

 I hope you enjoy this small selection:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

 Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
 they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
 adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
 processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
 of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
 and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
 sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.

 Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
 enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.

 For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
 huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
 covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
 few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
 lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
 lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
 land speed record by Donald Campbell.

 Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
 in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
  It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
 population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
 location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
 interest in flights over the lake.

 The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
 hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
 not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Good to hear you have power, Ann.  And I'm with you.  Better to be overly safe 
than sorry.  Flooding was always the big concern, and I thought I heard there 
are areas of New York that are suffering from flooding.  Most of New York's 
power lines are underground, so there was serious concern about power outage 
and  damage due to floods.  Glad everyone was well behaved.  Stupid people put 
emergency responders' lives at risk.

Glad to hear our East Coast PDMLers and family of are fairing well--well, 
except for Tom's house.  Very sorry to hear about that.

Cheers, Christine/Chicago



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 Boy, Paul ...
 If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you 
 would be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.
 
 Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
 as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of view of 
 the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief
 than what went on last winter...
 
 The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the subway 
 system was just right... there have been problems constantly with normal 
 rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends have been 
 devoted to limited service recently for repairs as it is but there would be 
 any number of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and getting themselves 
 hurt or worse.
 
 There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably are a 
 ton of them.
 
 The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by hurricane 
 standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.
 
 I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he thinks 
 it is only on the second floor.
 
 Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
 Not much open around here.
 
 What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
 heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
 that continues.
 
 ann
 
 
 
 On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
 particularly when they fall on houses.
 
 But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
 Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East 
 River meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell 
 from trees and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the 
 devastation. Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work 
 tomorrow, since Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways 
 until Monday night.
 
 Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.
 
 A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely 
 predictable.
 
 Paul
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
 15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
 out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife  kid are out of town).
 
 A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
 overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
 is on the second floor ;-)
 
 Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...
 
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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Aguila
Funny!  Cheers, Christine


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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-28 Thread Eactivist
Larry, good!!! John?

Who else is in  NorCal that is still on list? Anyone new?

Marnie the  akaless
  I keep wanting to put aka Doe after my  name. Old 
habits are strong.

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On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:48 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

 Godfrey DiGiorgi, Bruce Dayton, and I  are  working on setting up another 
 NorCal PDML Meet.
  
 We have agreed on a date  that works for all three of us:  Saturday, Oct. 
 29th.
 
 Location not yet   determined.
 
 We just wanted to throw the date out now so you  could think  about it 
and 
 about whether you could make it. Can  you?

I think so.


 
 We can brain storm  about  where to meet later. We'll probably take it 
off 
 PDML to a private list  of  email addresses for further discussion.
 
 Marnie the  akaless :-)   


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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread Eactivist
Heheheehehe. 1960's fashion. Or something.  Amusing shot.

Marnie 

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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Aguila
These are beautiful, Brian.  What's amazing about Bird Habitat is that the tip 
of the peninsula looks like an elegant bird beak.  Many of the pictures look 
very painterly to my eye--with lovely compositions.  The Painted Hills shots 
are fantastic .  Your GESO is nicely informative.  Great work.  Really enjoyed 
that.  You're such a photographic inspiration!  Cheers, Christine



On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:37 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Hi all
 
 First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
 photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
 trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.
 
 The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot. 
 The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
 two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
 difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
 K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
 the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
 eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
 proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
 part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
 *istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
 in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.
 
 I hope you enjoy this small selection:
 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html
 
 Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
 they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
 adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
 processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
 of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
 and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
 sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.
 
 Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
 enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.  
 
 For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
 huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
 covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
 few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
 lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
 lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
 land speed record by Donald Campbell.
 
 Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
 in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
 It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
 population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
 location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
 interest in flights over the lake.
 
 The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
 hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
 not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.
 
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Brian
 
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Re: OT Like water off a ducks back

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Sorenson


I was going to offer my condolences...

Shed looks good!

-p



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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Eactivist
I think so (re #6). I think it was #7 as well.  

I suppose she has actually acquired a name by now, though.

Marnie  ;-)

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s...@stans-photography.info writes:
I think #7. IIRC #6 wasn't around very  long - wasn't she the one who 
tripped and broke two flash heads and a light  stand? 

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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
960 = (2*2*2*2*2*2)*3*5 = (2^6)*3*5
so it's divisible by 2, 3, 5, and lots of powers of 2.
Prime decomposition from elementary Number Theory.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 2:11 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Brian Walters

 The main requirements are:

 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels

 Godfrey mentioned a few weeks ago that pictures on my website seemed quite
 small at 600x400. I orignally chose this when the PUG was limited to 700px
 on the long since because it covers the 35mm ratios easily, whereas 700
 doesn't quite.

 I replied to Godfrey that my normal maximum for the long edge now is 720px
 because it subdivides nicely and means that every picture can have the same
 size long edge, which is good for consistency on the website. For example
 4/3rds is 720x540, normal 35mm dimensions are 720x480.

 The maximum of 800 has the same problem (perhaps too strong a word) as 700
 in that for some aspect ratios setting the long side to 800px means that the
 short edge ends up as a fraction so you have to let your resizing software
 choose which pixels to remove. For example, 35mm dimensions become
 800x533.3... So the biggest you can actually have without this monkeying
 about is 798, whereas for 4/3rds you'd get the whole lot in 800.

 This means that the website is likely to have different maximum dimensions
 on each page, which makes for a jerky and inconsistent appearance in the
 page transitions.

 Purely by coincidence, when I was googling something work-related last week
 I found a website which pointed out that 960 is one of those magic numbers
 like 720 which subdivides into zillions of different whole numbers, namely:
 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
 120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives you plenty of options for
 different dimensions and cropping, while retaining that important
 consistency.

 Something to consider next time the max dimensions are reviewed.

 B

 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body
 or
 lens used is Pentax.

 Also - as not all browsers are colour space aware, if you embed a
 colour
 space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure the image looks right
 on
 line.  I usually check the colour space of submitted images but I've
 been known to forget.



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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Eactivist
I've been resizing to 800 on long end, because  that barely fits on the 
screen if you have a lot of status bars on your browser.  Now I may rethink 
that.

But I concur with the rest, hey, there's a lot of  opportunity out there 
for taking pretty pictures.

Heh.  Marnie ;-)   Unless you want to start a copyright thread.  

In a message dated 8/28/2011 12:11:29 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
p...@web-options.com writes:
Purely by coincidence, when I was googling  something work-related last week
I found a website which pointed out that 960  is one of those magic numbers
like 720 which subdivides into zillions of  different whole numbers, namely:
2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24,  30, 32, 40, 48, 60, 64, 80, 96,
120, 160, 192, 240, 320 and 480. This gives  you plenty of options for
different dimensions and cropping, while retaining  that important
consistency.

Something to consider next time the max  dimensions are reviewed.

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PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Aguila
It's amazing to think that I only have 18 weeks left!  Where did the time go?  
Cheers, Christine

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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Sorenson
Some great images of a beautiful, interesting landscape.  The 
combination of both low and high obliques makes it nice to transition 
from patterns to landforms.


-p

On 8/28/2011 7:37 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Hi all

First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.

The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot.
The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
*istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.

I hope you enjoy this small selection:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.

Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.

For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
land speed record by Donald Campbell.

Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
  It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
interest in flights over the lake.

The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.



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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Aug 28, 2011, at 07:14 , Bob W wrote:

 I am equally impressed by your numeristics.  
 
 Thanks, but I've really like coin-collecting.

  …but - I - really like coin collecting…
   or   …but I've really - liked - coin collecting…

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RE: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
  I am equally impressed by your numeristics.
 
  Thanks, but I've really like coin-collecting.
 
   .but - I - really like coin collecting.
or   .but I've really - liked - coin collecting.
 
 Joseph McAllister

but I've never really liked coin-collecting.

Or proof-reading, come to that.

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Re: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Aug 28, 2011, at 06:58 , John Sessoms wrote:

 It seems that a number of wild dogs resemble the Dingo, even one of our 
 own, the Carolina Dog, which I had never heard of until I hit the link from 
 the Wikipedia article on Dingos.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Dog
 
 There's speculation that the Dingo form represents *the* primitive dog, what 
 the dog looked like some 15,000 plus years ago when it was first 
 domesticated; a natural breed standard if you will.

Precisely John. The term used to describe the Canaan Dog, my -Dingo-ish- dog, 
and, in some circles, my little American Eskimo/Pit mix, who looks very little 
like either, is Pariah Dog.

Let all all dogs breed together for only 400 years and they would all have many 
of the same physical and color characteristics as the Dingo, Carolina Dog, 
Pharoah Dog, and the Canaan Dog. Even the Malamutes, Akitas  and Huskies would 
end up being assimilated into Pariah Dogs.


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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Jack Davis
..or, Quiet Sunflower. Would be well used as a freely adaptable design element. 
Just my odd initial reaction.
 
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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread David J Brooks
Well lit.

Dave

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Re: PESO: Blind Adherence to Fashion

2011-08-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola



http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=118

Comments Welcome.


Looks like my old high school girl-friend ... except she was a natural 
redhead. Had the temper to go with it. One of the reasons I'm partial to 
dark haired brunettes now-a-days.


But she had those same sheep-dog bangs, and wore those kind of peasant tops.



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Re: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-24 07:32 , Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Those are nice... they rather look like our coyotes - it took me a minute to
remember why you said no baby jokes :-(


interesting setting, i like the subtle colors and textures; and speaking of 
subtlety, the dingo is fascinating in its subtle unfamiliarity -- it does have 
a form similar to coyote, but a less delicate head; here's a too-well-fed 
coyote loping through my backyard this May for comparison (its coat is wet, 
when dry the coat is velvety):


http://www.flickr.com/photos/25713106@N04/5765364369/lightbox/

(i think we are sensitized by our life with dogs to recognize small differences 
in canine appearance)


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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread John Sessoms

From: Daniel J. Matyola

The wind has been a non-event in my area, but I have never seen it
rain so hard for so long.  Since the ground had already been saturated
by the wettest August on record, there is nowhere for the water to go,
and there is minor flooding all over.  Flooding may get worse as the
rivers rise with the flows from upstream.


Take heart! Tomorrow will be a brighter day.

We had a dreary, rainy day yesterday with Irene, but this morning dawned 
bright  sunny.


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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul it was much more than a summer storm  - even if it were not the 
Hurricane we prepared for with great caution - I was also out for walk 
but Ive had NEw YOrk 1 on non stop since last night... people were 
sending in amature vids of their neighborhoods and certainly the shots 
of lower Manhattan showed pretty serious flooding.


The subway system will be examined today - .  It isn't only this storm
that is/was the problem, but the over saturated earth from recent storms
as well -- it rained steadily all night.

What impressed me how everyone behaved so well and followed 
instructions... not only that, not one person I've encountered

had anything but praise for the administartion..

MEtro NOrth has major problems and we still don't know how much salt 
water got into the subway and Path tunnels though it was good news

that the Holland tunnel survived.

ann

On 8/28/2011 11:28, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Boy, Paul ...
If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you would 
be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.


My daughters, who live on the first floor, were out and about this morning. Couldn't find 
any damage or flooding. I think the news stations were so into their disaster 
coverage, they went out of their way to find the singular toppled tree or flooded 
street. All the data says it turned out to be not much more than a summer storm. Yes, 
Bloomberg blew it on the snowstorm and apparently overcompensated here. But you're right, 
overkill beats the alternative every time.

Paul





Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of view of 
the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief
than what went on last winter...

The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the subway 
system was just right... there have been problems constantly with normal 
rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends have been devoted 
to limited service recently for repairs as it is but there would be any number 
of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and getting themselves hurt or worse.

There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably are a 
ton of them.

The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by hurricane 
standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.

I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he thinks it 
is only on the second floor.

Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
Not much open around here.

What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
that continues.

ann



On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
particularly when they fall on houses.

But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East River 
meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell from trees 
and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the devastation. 
Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work tomorrow, since 
Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways until Monday night.

Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.

A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely predictable.

Paul
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I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife   kid are out of town).

A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
is on the second floor ;-)

Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
[Default] On Sun, 28 Aug 2011 14:09:06 -0400, Ann Sanfedele
ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

Paul it was much more than a summer storm  - even if it were not the 
Hurricane we prepared for with great caution - I was also out for walk 
but Ive had NEw YOrk 1 on non stop since last night... people were 
sending in amature vids of their neighborhoods and certainly the shots 
of lower Manhattan showed pretty serious flooding.

The subway system will be examined today - .  It isn't only this storm
that is/was the problem, but the over saturated earth from recent storms
as well -- it rained steadily all night.

What impressed me how everyone behaved so well and followed 
instructions... not only that, not one person I've encountered
had anything but praise for the administartion..

MEtro NOrth has major problems and we still don't know how much salt 
water got into the subway and Path tunnels though it was good news
that the Holland tunnel survived.

Boston didn't get hit as bad as NYC but they seemed really well
prepared. Even while the rain was still coming down and the wind was
blowing quite hard they had clean-up crews out clearing fallen limbs
from our street! I am officially impressed. I think our subway
stations may be pumped out and the tracks cleared by tomorrow morning
but it sounds as if New York has a bit bigger job to do to get the
subway back on line.

Preparedness was ecellent and we really lucked out to the storm
weakening faster than expeted.

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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 7:14 AM, Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Steven Desjardins
 
 It's a lovely hobby.
 
 I am equally impressed by your numeristics.  
 
 Thanks, but I've really like coin-collecting.
 
 I also like numbers like
 720 because I can do the math in my head more easily.
 
 yes. If it was up to me I'd replace all the primes with more easily
 divisible numbers. It would save us all a lot of trouble.

Now that you mention it, I realize why one of my lenses is 31mm, that doesn't 
however explain 77 rather than 79mm, or 50 rather than 51.


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Re: OT Like water off a ducks back

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:35 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 I have shingles:
Some of your jokes are right over my head.

 http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/

Be careful, you can be contagious when you're shedding virus.
 
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Re: PESO Men working, at night

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Thats very good

Thank you.


 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:
 On my way home last night, I liked the effect of the lights PGE was using 
 to illuminate their work:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6086427744/
 K-5 FA77, 1/50 f/1.8 ISO 400
 
 Most of the rest of the set is tighter in on the guys working, with the 
 A*200/2.8
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627406983765/
 
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RE: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 steve harley

 interesting setting, i like the subtle colors and textures; and
 speaking of
 subtlety, the dingo is fascinating in its subtle unfamiliarity -- it
 does have
 a form similar to coyote, but a less delicate head; here's a too-well-
 fed
 coyote loping through my backyard this May for comparison (its coat is
 wet,
 when dry the coat is velvety):
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/25713106@N04/5765364369/lightbox/
 
 (i think we are sensitized by our life with dogs to recognize small
 differences
 in canine appearance)

The African Wild Dog is the most intelligent of all the canids - it has a
dental formula of pi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycaon_pictus

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RE: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Larry Colen


  yes. If it was up to me I'd replace all the primes with more easily
  divisible numbers. It would save us all a lot of trouble.
 
 Now that you mention it, I realize why one of my lenses is 31mm, that
 doesn't however explain 77 rather than 79mm, or 50 rather than 51.
 

rounding error

B


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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Rick Womer
I really like the lighting and rendering in this one, Christine.

Rick

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I'm just relaying what my daughters told me from their perspective just off the 
upper bay. They called it a summer storm. But by definition, I think it was a 
summer storm by the time it left New Jersey, as the eye had largely dissipated 
and the winds were down to about 45 mph in most places. To put it in 
perspective, folks in Florida or the gulf coast don't get very excited by 
hurricanes that are less than stage 3, but they don't have subways or 
skyscrapers. In any case, I'm happy that all are well. There are a lot of 
people in Brooklyn and Queens who won't get paid if they can't get to work, but 
I think the authorities are now saying that the subways will be running by mid 
morning or thereabouts.


On Aug 28, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Paul it was much more than a summer storm  - even if it were not the 
 Hurricane we prepared for with great caution - I was also out for walk but 
 Ive had NEw YOrk 1 on non stop since last night... people were sending in 
 amature vids of their neighborhoods and certainly the shots of lower 
 Manhattan showed pretty serious flooding.
 
 The subway system will be examined today - .  It isn't only this storm
 that is/was the problem, but the over saturated earth from recent storms
 as well -- it rained steadily all night.
 
 What impressed me how everyone behaved so well and followed instructions... 
 not only that, not one person I've encountered
 had anything but praise for the administartion..
 
 MEtro NOrth has major problems and we still don't know how much salt water 
 got into the subway and Path tunnels though it was good news
 that the Holland tunnel survived.
 
 ann
 
 On 8/28/2011 11:28, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 Boy, Paul ...
 If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you 
 would be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.
 
 My daughters, who live on the first floor, were out and about this morning. 
 Couldn't find any damage or flooding. I think the news stations were so into 
 their disaster coverage, they went out of their way to find the singular 
 toppled tree or flooded street. All the data says it turned out to be not 
 much more than a summer storm. Yes, Bloomberg blew it on the snowstorm and 
 apparently overcompensated here. But you're right, overkill beats the 
 alternative every time.
 
 Paul
 
 
 
 
 Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
 as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of view 
 of the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief
 than what went on last winter...
 
 The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the subway 
 system was just right... there have been problems constantly with normal 
 rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends have been 
 devoted to limited service recently for repairs as it is but there would be 
 any number of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and getting themselves 
 hurt or worse.
 
 There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably are 
 a ton of them.
 
 The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by 
 hurricane standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.
 
 I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he thinks 
 it is only on the second floor.
 
 Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
 Not much open around here.
 
 What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
 heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
 that continues.
 
 ann
 
 
 
 On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
 particularly when they fall on houses.
 
 But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
 Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East 
 River meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell 
 from trees and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the 
 devastation. Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to 
 work tomorrow, since Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the 
 subways until Monday night.
 
 Boston will see nothing more than a wet and windy afternoon.
 
 A good thing that, based on past hurricane behavior, was entirely 
 predictable.
 
 Paul
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
 15-foot tree come down on his house and another tree uproot and take
 out a transformer. No one hurt (his wife   kid are out of town).
 
 A lot of NYC is without power and the East River is starting to
 overflow its banks. Annsan's not too far from there but her apartment
 is on the second floor ;-)
 
 Still just a bad rain storm here in Boston...
 
 --
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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele

thats a lovely shot - but never saw a white sunflower...
is that a rare breed - or did you mess with it ?-)

ann

On 8/28/2011 12:28, Christine Aguila wrote:

It's amazing to think that I only have 18 weeks left!  Where did the time go?  
Cheers, Christine

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Re: PESOs - Dingo at the Waterhole

2011-08-28 Thread Joseph McAllister
Very good observation Bob. I wish that the critter would decide which number 
was the 4th place in it's toothy formula.

As it is, of course, it's incorrect. I guess canid IQ falls a bit short of 
(some of) ours.  grin


On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:13 , Bob W wrote:

 
 The African Wild Dog is the most intelligent of all the canids - it has a
 dental formula of pi.
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lycaon_pictus
 
 B

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Re: OT Like water off a ducks back

2011-08-28 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
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Subject: OT Like water off a ducks back



I have shingles:
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Do they itch ?



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PAW86 - Passing

2011-08-28 Thread DagT
Have been preparing the apartment for sale all week so I have to use another 
old one...

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5, DA14mm, 1/30s, f/7.1, ISO100.

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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Ken Waller

Christine, several things jump out to me with your sunflower - YMMV

The mostly centered composition is ok but the proximity of the petals to the 
top edge draws my eye away from the subject - you need more space at the top 
above the image - it would appear more of a crafted image as opposed to a 
snap - which this image isn't.


The bright spot at around the 7 o'clock position is unfortunate.

But mostly I don't get the desaturation of the colors.

Just my $.02 s worth.

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Subject: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower


It's amazing to think that I only have 18 weeks left!  Where did the time 
go?  Cheers, Christine



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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the desaturated look, but the top petal touching the edge of frame is a 
bit unsettling for me.
Paul
On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:28 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

 It's amazing to think that I only have 18 weeks left!  Where did the time go? 
  Cheers, Christine
 
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Re: PESO - Rest Stop

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Dave. It was the colors against the white background that attracted me.
Paul
On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

 Well seen nice colours here
 
 Dave
 
 On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Cotty
On 28/8/11, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

I hope you enjoy this small selection:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

Big success - well done!

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Re: OT: falling in love again

2011-08-28 Thread Cotty
On 24/8/11, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed:

Drove a 444 horsepower boss 302 Mustang today with the Laguna Seca
package (which firms up the suspension to mate  nicely with some race
worthy tires, deletes the back seat. and adds some structural bracing).
The six-speed manual has a shifter to die for and the Brembo brakes
could stop a freight train. Maybe I should sell my Chevy?

Oh my god. I can smell it :)

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Re: OT: falling in love again

2011-08-28 Thread Cotty
On 24/8/11, Darren Addy, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPtxadr-RlI

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going 
on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few 
days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on 
Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the 
news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!


The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in 
sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...

Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -


I did a bit of shooting today, nothing particularly fascinating but I 
may find something to post later...


ann

On 8/28/2011 16:02, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I'm just relaying what my daughters told me from their perspective just off the 
upper bay. They called it a summer storm. But by definition, I think it was a 
summer storm by the time it left New Jersey, as the eye had largely dissipated 
and the winds were down to about 45 mph in most places. To put it in 
perspective, folks in Florida or the gulf coast don't get very excited by 
hurricanes that are less than stage 3, but they don't have subways or 
skyscrapers. In any case, I'm happy that all are well. There are a lot of 
people in Brooklyn and Queens who won't get paid if they can't get to work, but 
I think the authorities are now saying that the subways will be running by mid 
morning or thereabouts.


On Aug 28, 2011, at 2:09 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Paul it was much more than a summer storm  - even if it were not the Hurricane we 
prepared for with great caution - I was also out for walk but Ive had NEw YOrk 1 on non 
stop since last night... people were sending in amature vids of their neighborhoods and 
certainly the shots of lower Manhattan showed pretty serious flooding.

The subway system will be examined today - .  It isn't only this storm
that is/was the problem, but the over saturated earth from recent storms
as well -- it rained steadily all night.

What impressed me how everyone behaved so well and followed instructions... not 
only that, not one person I've encountered
had anything but praise for the administartion..

MEtro NOrth has major problems and we still don't know how much salt water got 
into the subway and Path tunnels though it was good news
that the Holland tunnel survived.

ann

On 8/28/2011 11:28, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Boy, Paul ...
If you were watching our local news (or if she were) that isn't what you would 
be saying. NY 1 has excellent coverage... better than the networks.


My daughters, who live on the first floor, were out and about this morning. Couldn't find 
any damage or flooding. I think the news stations were so into their disaster 
coverage, they went out of their way to find the singular toppled tree or flooded 
street. All the data says it turned out to be not much more than a summer storm. Yes, 
Bloomberg blew it on the snowstorm and apparently overcompensated here. But you're right, 
overkill beats the alternative every time.

Paul





Also, after the lack of cuation this winter was not appreciated and
as it turned out to be, perhaps, a bit of overkill from the point of view of 
the citizens, much better to get that ire along with relief
than what went on last winter...

The news coverage may get redundant and boring but shutting down the subway 
system was just right... there have been problems constantly with normal 
rainstorms of shortages and interupted service - the weekends have been devoted 
to limited service recently for repairs as it is but there would be any number 
of jerks non-chalanting the whole thing and getting themselves hurt or worse.

There could have been very serious problems underground - and probably are a 
ton of them.

The skies are clearing but the winds are high -- maybe not high by hurricane 
standards but not anything you would want to walk around in.

I'm in a good spot - on the 3rd floor, actually - Mark is so spry he thinks it 
is only on the second floor.

Sun just came out... I may venture out with camera.. but not far.
Not much open around here.

What I'm impressed with is how well behaved everyone has been - actually
heeding warnings and staying out of the way of possible harm.  HOpe
that continues.

ann



On 8/28/2011 10:48, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Saw that about Tom's tree. Unfortunate. I hate to see old trees come down, 
particularly when they fall on houses.

But Irene is pretty much history. My daughters, who live in Brooklyn's Bay 
Ridge neighborhood, not far from the point where the South Bay and East River 
meet, report that it's all much ado about nothing. A few leaves fell from trees 
and the streets are wet and slippery. That's the extent of the devastation. 
Unfortunately, they don't know how they're going to get to work tomorrow, since 
Mayor Bloomberg jumped the shark and shut down the subways until Monday night.

Boston will see nothing more than a wet and 

Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
All very striking images!  Thanks for sharing those.  Fascinating!

:)
-c

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hi all

 First - thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
 photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our recent
 trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.

 The flight was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot.
 The lack of wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
 two biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
 difficult to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
 K200D with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
 the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
 eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
 proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the first
 part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered the
 *istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both of us shot
 in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500 sec.

 I hope you enjoy this small selection:

 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

 Initially I was concerned about the lack of contrast in the images -
 they were generally 'flat' with a limited tonal range.  A simple levels
 adjustment made a world of difference.  The only other significant post
 processing was in getting rid of reflections which mainly affected areas
 of sky.  I addressed this by sampling the colour of a section of the sky
 and applying a colour gradient layer, masked so that it applied to the
 sky alone.  This tended to hide the reflections quite well.

 Overall, I was happy with the results.  There are a lot of 'misses' but
 enough keepers to make me feel that the exercise was worthwhile.

 For those who are interested - some background.  Lake Eyre is usually a
 huge, dry salt lake in the South Australian outback.  It's catchment
 covers about one sixth of the Australian continent but it only fills a
 few times per century.  In most years any rainfall in the catchment is
 lost by evaporation or to groundwater well before it could reach the
 lake. In 1964 it was the location for a successful attempt on the world
 land speed record by Donald Campbell.

 Over the past couple of seasons there has been abnormally high rainfall
 in the catchment, so much so that the lake is approaching full capacity.
  It's an iconic place to both Aboriginal people and the wider
 population.  Most Australians would like to visit but it's in a remote
 location which is only accessible on land via 4WD, so there is a growing
 interest in flights over the lake.

 The Painted Hills extend over an area of about 200 sq km and are low
 hills in contrasting colours of white, red, brown and orange.  They are
 not accessible by road and can only be seen from the air.



 Cheers

 Brian

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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Larry Colen
 
 
 yes. If it was up to me I'd replace all the primes with more easily
 divisible numbers. It would save us all a lot of trouble.
 
 Now that you mention it, I realize why one of my lenses is 31mm, that
 doesn't however explain 77 rather than 79mm, or 50 rather than 51.
 
 
 rounding error

I thought rounding error was how you got aspherical lenses.
 

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PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-28 Thread Rick Womer
We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.  Here is a 
fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715size=lg

K7, DA 10-17

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Mark Roberts
Ann Sanfedele wrote:

I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going 
on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few 
days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on 
Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the 
news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!

The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in 
sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -

I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
It was certainly a major storm. But it was the object of round-the-clock 
television coverage, and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for it. 
It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes that literally 
leveled Joplin, Missouri. Perhaps not much ado about nothing, but certainly 
much ado about very little. It could only happen on the east coast.

Paul


On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going 
 on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few 
 days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on 
 Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the 
 news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!
 
 The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in 
 sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
 Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -
 
 I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
 imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
 Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
 reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
 Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
 out cleaning up.
 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Christine Nielsen
I think hurricanes have a pr/media exposure advantage, since you can
literally see them coming for miles away.  The news outlets had about
a week to work themselves into a lather over Irene while she churned
away, approaching the coast.  I can't speak to the coverage of Joplin,
but tornadoes happen so suddenly that nobody has a chance to start the
pre-storm media hype machine.

Tornadoes ought to consider press releases, if they want to have equal
air time on the networks...

;)
-c

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 It was certainly a major storm. But it was the object of round-the-clock 
 television coverage, and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for it. 
 It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes that literally 
 leveled Joplin, Missouri. Perhaps not much ado about nothing, but certainly 
 much ado about very little. It could only happen on the east coast.

 Paul


 On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going
 on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few
 days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on
 Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the
 news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!

 The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in
 sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
 Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -

 I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
 imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
 Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
 reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
 Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
 out cleaning up.

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul there is something you are missing here... While I agree that 
_post_disaster/event or what have you no matter what it is can suffer 
from overkill in the media - Here the media was instrumental in 
Bloomberg's success in getting people to comply with the program for

keeping people safe - getting the word out BEFORE in the media..

Right now Irene is causing major, major flooding all over New England...
much ado about very little? much ado about less than it might have been
but this was a long way from very little

and here is the thing - there are still things that have to be done and
cautions to be taken - there is still big weather here (meaning the 
north east)


Joplin was a shocker and certainly beyond in devastation - but the
coverage I watched certainly didnt' neglect Joplin - it's apples and 
oranges.  There is a diffference between covering a tragedy of great 
magnitude of which there have been several in the last year or so,

Santiago, Japan, New Zealand , Haiti in addition to Joplin and Katrina.

This story all up and down the coast was as much about people doing 
something preemtively to protect people and it worked.  It is also 
rather important now for us to know where there are problems to keep 
from going there..


There was coverage in our area for hours and hours without breaks for
commercials!  It was the media acting responsibly - I forgive them some
redundancy

ann

On 8/28/2011 21:38, Paul Stenquist wrote:

It was certainly a major storm.


But it was the object of round-the-clock television coverage,

 and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for it.

 It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes

 that literally leveled Joplin, Missouri.

 Perhaps not much ado about nothing,

 but certainly much ado about very little. It could only happen on the 
east coast.


Paul


On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going
on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few
days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on
Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the
news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!

The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in
sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -


I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
out cleaning up.

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed much ado 
about very little. The federal government declared New York a disaster area 
before it was a disaster area -- something that essentially never happened. 
It's no wonder fallen branches were picked up immediately in Boston -- the 
thousands of troops and workers called in to deal with the storm had nothing 
else to do. We spent billions in tax dollars on this one, unnecessarily, for 
the most part. If we do that for every sub-tropial storm weather event, we'll 
soon be in the crapper. 
Paul
On Aug 28, 2011, at 10:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Paul there is something you are missing here... While I agree that 
 _post_disaster/event or what have you no matter what it is can suffer from 
 overkill in the media - Here the media was instrumental in Bloomberg's 
 success in getting people to comply with the program for
 keeping people safe - getting the word out BEFORE in the media..
 
 Right now Irene is causing major, major flooding all over New England...
 much ado about very little? much ado about less than it might have been
 but this was a long way from very little
 
 and here is the thing - there are still things that have to be done and
 cautions to be taken - there is still big weather here (meaning the north 
 east)
 
 Joplin was a shocker and certainly beyond in devastation - but the
 coverage I watched certainly didnt' neglect Joplin - it's apples and oranges. 
  There is a diffference between covering a tragedy of great magnitude of 
 which there have been several in the last year or so,
 Santiago, Japan, New Zealand , Haiti in addition to Joplin and Katrina.
 
 This story all up and down the coast was as much about people doing something 
 preemtively to protect people and it worked.  It is also rather important now 
 for us to know where there are problems to keep from going there..
 
 There was coverage in our area for hours and hours without breaks for
 commercials!  It was the media acting responsibly - I forgive them some
 redundancy
 
 ann
 
 On 8/28/2011 21:38, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 It was certainly a major storm.
 
 But it was the object of round-the-clock television coverage,
 
 and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for it.
 
 It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes
 
 that literally leveled Joplin, Missouri.
 
 Perhaps not much ado about nothing,
 
 but certainly much ado about very little. It could only happen on the east 
 coast.
 
 Paul
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 Ann Sanfedele wrote:
 
 I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going
 on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few
 days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on
 Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the
 news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!
 
 The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in
 sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
 Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -
 
 I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
 imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
 Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
 reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
 Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-28 Thread John Celio
I'm free on that day and would love to meet up with everyone. If we could 
pick a place that's not too far from public transit, though, that'd be 
great. All I've got is my bicycle.


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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-28 21:13 , Paul Stenquist wrote:

 We spent billions in tax dollars on this one, unnecessarily, for the most part.


do you have a reference for that billions claim? i'd be surprised if storm 
prep has cost as much as a week of war in Afghanistan


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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Bob Sullivan
Stan,
Perhaps she was #7.  Didn't they all break flash heads or memory cards?
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I think #7. IIRC #6 wasn't around very long - wasn't she the one who tripped 
 and broke two flash heads and a light stand?

 stan

 On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Mark,
 I remember Tom and just found his wedding photography business in DC.
 I presume his wife is the famous #6 (or was it #7) assistant.
 It's good to see he's doing well and they look happy.
 His wedding photos always had an amazing relaxed/natural quality to them.
 I think he must be quite talented at making people feel comfortable.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 I just learned via Facebook the former PDML-member Tom Van Veen had a
 15-foot tree come down on his house

 Make that a 150-foot tree!


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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-28 Thread John Francis

Sorry - I've been up in Sonoma all day.

AFAIK I'm not busy that weekend, so count me in.


On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:55:32AM -0400, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 Larry, good!!! John?
 
 Who else is in  NorCal that is still on list? Anyone new?
 
 Marnie the  akaless
   I keep wanting to put aka Doe after my  name. Old 
 habits are strong.
 
 In a message dated 8/27/2011 5:38:36 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
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 On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:48 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 
  Godfrey DiGiorgi, Bruce Dayton, and I  are  working on setting up another 
  NorCal PDML Meet.
   
  We have agreed on a date  that works for all three of us:  Saturday, Oct. 
  29th.
  
  Location not yet   determined.
  
  We just wanted to throw the date out now so you  could think  about it 
 and 
  about whether you could make it. Can  you?
 
 I think so.
 
 
  
  We can brain storm  about  where to meet later. We'll probably take it 
 off 
  PDML to a private list  of  email addresses for further discussion.
  
  Marnie the  akaless :-)   
 
 
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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-28 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:44 PM, John Francis wrote:

 
 Sorry - I've been up in Sonoma all day.

Intersection of hwys 37 and 121?  How'd the new kit hold up?
 

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Ken Waller


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- Original Message - 
From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net


Subject: Re: Irene


It was certainly a major storm. But it was the object of round-the-clock 
television coverage, and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for 
it. It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes that 
literally leveled Joplin, Missouri. Perhaps not much ado about nothing, 
but certainly much ado about very little. It could only happen on the east 
coast.


More like it could only happen in the U. S.



Paul


On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:31 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I think your daughter's youth probably helped to minimize what was going
on -- but also, it _was_ rather irregular in impact and in the next few
days more flooding is expected.  It was pretty windy out today and on
Long Island ( i.e., those powered by the Long Island power company) the
news just said there were over 400,000 people without power!

The stories keep coming in -- the Saw MIll parkway is a river in
sections .. more buildings are falling down along the shore -- etc...
Yet I only know this because I see it live on TV -


I believe Annsan. We only had winds up to 65 mph here and I can't
imagine they weren't stronger in NYC. Lisa went out for a walk around
Jamaica Pond late this afternoon when things had calmed down a bit and
reported uprooted trees and downed limbs blocking paths everywhere.
Fortunately all the advance hype paid off and there were already crews
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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-28 Thread Ken Waller

Certainly an un common perspective !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com

Subject: PESO - Fishy Falls


We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.  Here 
is a fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715size=lg

K7, DA 10-17

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Re: Irene

2011-08-28 Thread Bong Manayon
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

 It was certainly a major storm. But it was the object of round-the-clock
 television coverage, and billions of tax dollars were spent preparing for
 it. It received far more press than the devastating tornadoes that literally
 leveled Joplin, Missouri. Perhaps not much ado about nothing, but certainly
 much ado about very little. It could only happen on the east coast.

 More like it could only happen in the U. S.


Typhoon Nanmadol just skirted Northern Philippines as a cat-3 (killed
8) while Irene (also a cat-3) was going through the East Coast; it
just took a breather (which means it could intensify) and is now on
its way to Taiwan. CNN never said anything about it while BBC would
mention it about a third of the time but in the same breath as Irene
and Libya.

But hey--we're used to it!  I mean the typhoons, not necessarily the
lack of media or even government attention.  But that may just be the
point that it is so routine that it does get as much fuss as say the
East Coast which just had an earthquake and a hurricane go through it.
 My living memory has been peppered with category 3-5 typhoons EVERY
year and my choice of residence and lifestyle revolves around them so
I do not necessarily worry as much as others would but I appreciate
being over-warned and over-prepared.

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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-28 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 08:47:01PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:44 PM, John Francis wrote:
 
  
  Sorry - I've been up in Sonoma all day.
 
 Intersection of hwys 37 and 121?

You got it. (I was actually there yesterday as well)

  How'd the new kit hold up?

Better than I did, I think.  I'm exhausted.

I've got something like 7GB of images to upload and look through.

But here's one I rather like (probably because it's a shot I though
of first, and worked hard to find the right vantage point):

http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Sonoma.jpg

I'll put a gallery up in the next day or so.


P.S. I've now got a nice signed print of my start shot from New Hampshire
two weekends ago - I managed to get all nine of the drivers to sign it.


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