1st lens tumble & other what not

2011-09-21 Thread Christine Aguila
My FA 50mm f 1.4 took a very bad tumble today.  It fell from about waist high 
to a hard floor.  I tried it out and it seems to be working.  I don't hear any 
crunching noises, and it focuses in both daylight and low light.  I don't even 
see any scratches anywhere.  This is the first time I've dropped a 
lens--totally freaked me out, but I'm thinking I'll be ok.  

I'm so behind on PDML and will try to catch up over the weekend.

Cheers, Christine/Chicago
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PESO: Free Lunch

2011-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=139

Comments and criticisms are requested.

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Enablement

2011-09-21 Thread Fernando
I belong to the K-5 club now! (thanks to someone buying my K10D and
Henry's dropping the price to $1,100).

Coming from the K20D I'm still getting used to the interface changes.
The thing I like the most: quiet shutter. I was surprised with the
lack of an SR switch, but I gained a Live View button -and the live
view implementation is a quantum leap from the one in the K20D.

I'll be out there taking some photos (and maybe a movie now...)

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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Fernando
Excellent

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, frank theriault
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> Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Subash
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:48:46 -0400
Bruce Walker  wrote:

> But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics)
> echos the Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation
> for the notion of a very compact system with a small sensor.

something interesting i came across while browsing another 'other'
forum...

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1007&message=39409774

if nothing else, it's at least another opinion... :)

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Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen

On 9/21/2011 4:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C  wrote:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml

Among other things (pre-production model):
...
"... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really
satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent.
At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance
noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at
pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large
prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and
how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs
will have to be determined."
...

It sounds like Sony sacrificed some of the stratospheric ISO
capabilities for a higher resolution sensor. Not an unheard of
trade-off, but some will take exception to it, I'm sure.


Interesting, since diffraction limiting seems to be purely based on 
sensor resolution and f/stop, rather than the actual physical size of 
the aperture, using the calculator at: 
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm 
it would seem that it is diffraction limited somewhere between 5.6 and 
8.   I also suspect that with some clever math, a lot of the noise and 
diffraction issues could be greatly alleviated by downrezzing to 
something like 12 MP.





Otherwise, it looks like a very nice camera. Time will tell ... I look
forward to hearing what you say about it once you get to work with it.



I'm rather curious myself.   I suppose they could always make a version 
with the K-5 sensor for people who are more likely to photograph indoors 
without a flash than they are to print significantly larger than 
13x20.5" (24MP at 300dpi) though I suspect you could go quite a bit 
larger if you wanted.




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Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml
>
> Among other things (pre-production model):
> ...
> "... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really
> satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent.
> At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance
> noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at
> pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large
> prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and
> how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs
> will have to be determined."
> ...

It sounds like Sony sacrificed some of the stratospheric ISO
capabilities for a higher resolution sensor. Not an unheard of
trade-off, but some will take exception to it, I'm sure.

Otherwise, it looks like a very nice camera. Time will tell ... I look
forward to hearing what you say about it once you get to work with it.

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Re: OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
"if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really
satisfies."

Very similar to what I told my wife before we married (32 yrs ago).
: )

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OT: Sony NEX-7 First Impressions on Luminous Landscape

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_nex_7_first_impressions.shtml

Among other things (pre-production model):

"... I can say that in photographic terms this camera certainly gives
the impression of a compact fighting machine that sacrifices little
for its diminutive size."

"... it challenges virtually every other small camera on the market
when it comes to the ability for the photographer to get the camera
operating in a smooth and intuitive manner."

"From an operational perspective what immediately brings a grin to an
experienced photographer's face is how comfortably the camera falls to
hand. It's one of those designs that makes few demands for
accommodation on the part of the photographer."

"... if ones expectations are realistic this new 24MP sensor really
satisfies. At ISO 100 to 400 its noise characteristics are excellent.
At 800 it is still very good, and little to no additional luminance
noise reduction is needed. At 1600 some luminance noise is visible at
pixel peeping on-screen sizes, but hardly at all on even very large
prints. At ISO 3200 and beyond noise become increasingly a factor, and
how much of an issue it may be for an individual photographers needs
will have to be determined."

"... there was something about the NEX-7 that made it very appealing
as a "thing" unto itself, not just as a device for taking photographs.
This is somewhat hard to describe, but is attributable to a
combination of the camera's fit, finish and design aesthetic."

"One really has to ask – what's not to like? At under US $1,200 for a
24MP camera, even the price is attractive... and is going to really
put other camera maker's feet to the fire when it comes to offering an
attractive mix of image quality, features, size, build quality and
price. Sony clearly made a decision to make the NEX-7 as full featured
as possible, not holding back any of their available features or
technology. With many camera makers creating market segmentation by
artificially restricting features to certain price points, Sony is to
be commended for pulling out all the stops for the NEX-7 and keeping
the price as reasonable as it did given the camera's wide ranging
features and capabilities."

Sorry Bill, I know this kind of thing really peeves you. :-)

I have one on pre-order since last week. I just wonder how far down
the list I am.

Tom C.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 21, 2011, at 12:32 PM, Tom C wrote:

>> Note that I said N's entry "validated _a_ market", but I didn't say it
>> was a market of which I was a part.  I suspect the validated market may
>> be largely made up of young Japanese women. Pentax recently tested those
>> waters with the candy coloured, Hello Kittied K-r/K-x's. Market
>> researchers must have given a big thumbs up.
>> 
>> I too am not going to be buying a Q or a V1. I'd be more likely to buy a
>> 645D.

Let me see what happens with 645D (or 645DmkII) prices and performance in 3-5 
years time.  Or, for that matter, my income.



>> 
>> -bmw
>> 
> 
> OK, I understand. :-)
> 
> What I don't understand is the apparent assumption that a person in
> the market for this type of diminutive sensor size camera (implies
> image quality is not at the top of their priority list) would actually
> care that it has interchangeable lenses (implies image quality IS a
> high priority).

I'd be interested in seeing side by side photos, in various conditions between 
the Q, the V1, and $1,000 SLRs circa 2005.
I remember, sometime around 2006, poking around on the Canon website and 
thinking that their current full frame DSLRs looked like they had about the 
level of performance that I wanted and needed, and wondered when I'd be able to 
afford that level of performance.  The K-5 answered that question.  If these 
companies wait until sensor performance "justifies" interchangeable lenses at 
that sensor (and by extension camera body) size, then the market will already 
be staked out by early arrivals.

> 
> Could it be this is a way of attracting current P&S owners to upgrade
> into the more lucrative mirrorless and DSLR markets, by offering a
> move up that is close in size to a P&S (at least with a standard
> wide-angle lens)?

Interchangeable lenses are fun, sensor improve. Will these cameras provide 
better performance than point and shoots?  I'm sure they will, especially with 
good prime lenses rather than super zooms.  Will people be able to keep those 
lenses and upgrade to a body with twice the performance in a couple of years?  
I'm sure of that.  I wouldn't, however, bet Cotty's hat against an APS EVIL in 
the next year or two.


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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread steve harley

on 2011-09-21 14:48 Larry Colen wrote

I have thought of using the strobes during daylight.


yeah, that's what i meant, strobes at twilight

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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 21, 2011, at 12:58 PM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2011-09-21 04:40 Larry Colen wrote
>> I decided to try another tack, and tried shooting them at night using my 
>> studio strobe.  Here are a couple of different treatments:
>> showing the canopy:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6169096452/
> 
> that one's interesting, and it does begin to convey the scale, as does this 
> one:
> 
> 
> 
> i wonder how it would look at twilight (with the sky darker than the foliage, 
> but not completely black)

The naturally lit foliage will never be lighter than the sky, at least from 
below.  I have thought of using the strobes during daylight.


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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168577810/in/photostream/

This one is the closest. I think this cries out for a little pano
stitching in the vertical.

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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread steve harley

on 2011-09-21 04:40 Larry Colen wrote

I decided to try another tack, and tried shooting them at night using my studio 
strobe.  Here are a couple of different treatments:
showing the canopy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6169096452/


that one's interesting, and it does begin to convey the scale, as does this one:



i wonder how it would look at twilight (with the sky darker than the foliage, 
but not completely black)



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OT Bad opinion generator

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker

“The Japanese don’t make anything the people in the U.S. would want.”
-- John Foster Dulles, U.S. Secretary of State, 1954

“So unbelievably horrible, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically 
insensitive to the magic of the art, that they qualify as crowned heads 
of anti-music.”

-- National Review founder William F. Buckley, on The Beatles, 1964

“The only thing different is the hair, as far as I can see. I give them 
a year.”
-- Musical director of The Ed Sullivan Show, predicting the death of The 
Beatles, 1964



I predict that no-one here will click Hit Me Again more than once or 
twice ...


http://theweek.com/article/index/218150/bad-opinion-generator

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Re: First Android App: Film Developing Timer

2011-09-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:
> https://market.android.com/details?id=com.proj.mdt&feature=search_result

Just out of curiosity, what's it do that requires 2.2 or better?

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RE: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry Colen
> >
> http://www.historicalstockphotos.com/images/xsmall/2597_lumberjacks_on_
> a_stump.jpg
> 
> I don't have any lumberjacks handy, would a pretty girl work?
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/3583577933/in/set-
> 72157618992758855
> 

If I don't do it, somebody else will:

"I cut down trees. I wear high heels,
Suspendies, and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie,
Just like my dear Papa."

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
> Note that I said N's entry "validated _a_ market", but I didn't say it
> was a market of which I was a part.  I suspect the validated market may
> be largely made up of young Japanese women. Pentax recently tested those
> waters with the candy coloured, Hello Kittied K-r/K-x's. Market
> researchers must have given a big thumbs up.
>
> I too am not going to be buying a Q or a V1. I'd be more likely to buy a
> 645D.
>
> -bmw
>

OK, I understand. :-)

What I don't understand is the apparent assumption that a person in
the market for this type of diminutive sensor size camera (implies
image quality is not at the top of their priority list) would actually
care that it has interchangeable lenses (implies image quality IS a
high priority).

Could it be this is a way of attracting current P&S owners to upgrade
into the more lucrative mirrorless and DSLR markets, by offering a
move up that is close in size to a P&S (at least with a standard
wide-angle lens)?

Tom

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Re: PESO: The Buck Stops Here

2011-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Frank and Davie.

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:27 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Superb
>
> Dave
>
> On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  
> wrote:
>> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=136
>>
>> Comments are invited.
>>
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 05:27:29AM -0700, Jack Davis wrote:
> I've experienced the feeling you describe each time I drive through the 
> California redwoods. I've never even approached conveying their scale, I 
> think mostly due to my avoiding including something of familiar scale in the 
> frame.

I tried that here:

  

by including a familiar object, but in such a way that it isn't
the first thing you look at in the frame.


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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 21, 2011, at 11:40 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: "Collin Brendemuehl"
>> The magnitude of scale is almost impossible to communicate in a picture.
> 
> Unless you cut it down and have a team of lumberjacks standing on the stump.
> 
> http://www.historicalstockphotos.com/images/xsmall/2597_lumberjacks_on_a_stump.jpg

I don't have any lumberjacks handy, would a pretty girl work?

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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Doug Brewer

On 9/21/11 2:40 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"

The magnitude of scale is almost impossible to communicate in a picture.


Unless you cut it down and have a team of lumberjacks standing on the
stump.

http://www.historicalstockphotos.com/images/xsmall/2597_lumberjacks_on_a_stump.jpg




or park your car among them.

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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen
Nice shot and excellent choice of framing.

On Sep 21, 2011, at 5:17 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> Hope you enjoy:
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Collin Brendemuehl"

The magnitude of scale is almost impossible to communicate in a picture.


Unless you cut it down and have a team of lumberjacks standing on the stump.

http://www.historicalstockphotos.com/images/xsmall/2597_lumberjacks_on_a_stump.jpg

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> By now everyone knows about Nikon's mirrorless camera entry, the Nikon 1.
> Mike Johnston's take: http://goo.gl/uTSZe
>
> But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics) echos the
> Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation for the notion of a
> very compact system with a small sensor.
>
> If nothing else, this will help keep companies making mount adapters busy
> for years to come.

It's very interesting to me that Pentax and now Nikon have chosen to
go with small-sensor LIVE camera systems like this. It might be where
the major sales can be obtained, but it limits further the ability to
control focus zone unless extremely fast lenses are used, and they're
not offering extremely fast lenses far as I can see.

My interests are for larger sensor cameras, FourThirds format and up,
and shared use of high-quality, manually operated lenses, so neither
the Pentax Q or Nikon 1 systems are all that appealing to me. For me,
at present, Ricoh's GXR and A12 Camera Mount is right on target. The
Sony NEX 7 might be a contender too, but I am so enthused about what
I'm seeing with the GXR and this camera unit I'll likely hang out with
it at least until Leica's LIVE offering surfaces in Fall 2012.

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Re: PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:27 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Very nice stern expression behind that little camera.

:-)  It's hard to keep from frowning when your face is all scrunched
up looking through a viewfinder ...  !
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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On 9/20/2011 11:52 AM, William Robb wrote:

On 20/09/2011 12:35 PM, Bob W wrote:

that's probably the most arrogant thing I've ever read on the PDML.


Dammit Bob, does this mean I have to revert back to being the list
dickweed?

You're the list dickweed? I thought I was the list dickweed and you were
the list asshole.  Now I'm confused.


Only now?

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RE: OT But is it art?

2011-09-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Bob W"

I think you've misunderstood the function of critics. Are you suggesting
that noone should criticise something unless they have personally done
better? That would be absurd.


Is it informed criticism or uninformed criticism? I understand and 
appreciate the value of the former.


But, there is by far too damn much of the latter.

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Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-21 Thread John Sessoms

From: Charles Robinson

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:50, Tom C wrote:


That's a nice shot, Tom.

Judging by the angles, it doesn't even appear to be that extreme of a telephoto 
shot, either.

One shudders to consider the cost of those tickets.  Somewhat stratospheric, 
wasn't it?

 -Charles


Thanks. You're correct, third row center. Almost exactly the same as
the current price of a K-5. Was it worth it? I still think so. Do I
wish I had a K-5, yes.


I think I paid $7 for 2nd-row center for the Queen concert I saw in 1980.


Five dollars each for the Rolling Stones in 1965, but I had to settle 
for the fifth row.


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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Dario Bonazza

William Robb wrote:


I played with a Q for a while yesterday.
It's really little, but it didn't draw me in the way I hoped it would.
I think because it's too small, and the lens is too big.
I like viewfinders, and I'd like the Q a lot more if it had one.
I'd even settle for an EVF, as much as I loath them.
Other than that, it seems like a nice little camera.


I played with a V1 and a J1 today, at the Nikon 1 premiere in Italy.
Nice camera, not so smooth to mount and unmount the lens (yes, it features 
the usual Nikon anti-everybody rotation), sign of not so refined machining 
(body and lens made in China). Proper size, in my opinion, not so different 
from my GF1. Nice to have the viewfinder, AF is quick and all the announced 
bells & whistles are there. Not that I am so interested in them.


Small sensor? Yes, but 2.7x (Nikon 1) is not 5.5x (Pentax Q).

IQ? Don't know. Odd I had no SD card with me.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-21 12:06 PM, Tom C wrote:

By now everyone knows about Nikon's mirrorless camera entry, the Nikon 1.
Mike Johnston's take: http://goo.gl/uTSZe

But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics) echos
the Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation for the
notion of a very compact system with a small sensor.

If nothing else, this will help keep companies making mount adapters
busy for years to come.

-bmw


It doesn't validate it to me. I'm not sure what camera companies are
thinking, but it seems to be along the lines of  'hey, there's some
sucker out there that will buy anything if we make it and market it
right'. It's almost like they're deliberately attempting to insult the
consumers intelligence. Maybe image quality (IQ) = intelligence
quotient (IQ). :-)

This zdnet article (link below) pretty much sums up my thoughts on the
Q, and I have to say that if image quality is ANY consideration, I'd
sooner carry a NEX or a 4/3 body over a tiny sensor sensor camera that
is pretty much a P&S with interchangeable lenses. An inevitable
comparison must be drawn to the Pentax Auto 110. It, the Q, and now
the 1, are all cute little cameras that would likely only appeal to
someone whos primary concern is obviously not image quality.

The size difference between any of the mirrorless systems is not so
great that one could argue that an even smaller, thinner, lighter body
is a compelling factor for giving up massive amounts of sensor real
estate. The sensor-size comparison link in the article helps it sink
in.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/digitalcameras/pentax-q-smallest-compact-interchangeable-lens-camera-sports-biggest-price-tag/5084?tag=mantle_skin;content

Tom C.



Note that I said N's entry "validated _a_ market", but I didn't say it 
was a market of which I was a part.  I suspect the validated market may 
be largely made up of young Japanese women. Pentax recently tested those 
waters with the candy coloured, Hello Kittied K-r/K-x's. Market 
researchers must have given a big thumbs up.


I too am not going to be buying a Q or a V1. I'd be more likely to buy a 
645D.


-bmw

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Re: Did It! K-5 On The Way

2011-09-21 Thread Paul Sorenson
You're really a "My cup is really, totally empty" kind of guy, aren't 
you.  Not even "My cup is only half full".


;>}

-p

On 9/20/2011 12:04 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Right. Your new camera is weather sealed, so it doesn't matter if *YOU*
get soaked and catch your death from cold.

I hope it doesn't rain either Mark.

From: Jack Davis

Just read this and am likely not the first one to comment about this,
but them K5 is grommeted and sealed against moisture and dust. So, you
needn't worry about the rain.

Jack

- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Did It! K-5 On The Way

Paul's comments on the non-incremental improvement of the K-5 over the
K-7 gave me the impetus to finally commit, and I just placed my order
for a K-5 and a couple of 8 gig cards with B&H.

I hope it doesn't rain this weekend...

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Some Guy Named Tom

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
Not sure why I'm posting this, it's nothing special really except this
guy is named Tom, he shot with a Pentax 35mm camera and in B&W.

Post 9/11 in NYC, and didn't develop the film for 10 years, ruining
most of the roll.

http://ireport.cnn.com/blogs/ireport-blog/2011/09/21/10-year-old-film-gives-glimpse-into-the-week-after-911?hpt=hp_bn2

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Re: First Android App: Film Developing Timer

2011-09-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
>Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 17:03:54 +0200
>From: Thibouille 
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: First Android App: Film Developing Timer
>Message-ID:
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>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>That is a nice addition Colin. Thank you.
>I usually use Massive Dev Charts but a free option is always good to have.
>
>If that helps you, I may try it on unusual Android screens, just for
>testing (X10 mini pro and Galaxy Tab7") ?
>
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Sounds good.  Thanks.
I'm working on fixing one timer bug in it for v1.1.
Hopefully that will be ready & available tomorrow.

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Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
> Well done. God, he's old!
>
> Paul
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Tom C wrote:
>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118
>>
>> By you know who.
>>
>> Tom C.

Thanks Paul, Bob, John, Frank, et al. Amazingly in concert you get the
feeling he's still in his 30's. No doubt all the movement, as well as
memories overlapping on to vision. Most of his shows are non-stop 2
1/2 - 3 hour gigs.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Tom C
> By now everyone knows about Nikon's mirrorless camera entry, the Nikon 1.
> Mike Johnston's take: http://goo.gl/uTSZe
>
> But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics) echos
> the Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation for the
> notion of a very compact system with a small sensor.
>
> If nothing else, this will help keep companies making mount adapters
> busy for years to come.
>
> -bmw
>

It doesn't validate it to me. I'm not sure what camera companies are
thinking, but it seems to be along the lines of  'hey, there's some
sucker out there that will buy anything if we make it and market it
right'. It's almost like they're deliberately attempting to insult the
consumers intelligence. Maybe image quality (IQ) = intelligence
quotient (IQ). :-)

This zdnet article (link below) pretty much sums up my thoughts on the
Q, and I have to say that if image quality is ANY consideration, I'd
sooner carry a NEX or a 4/3 body over a tiny sensor sensor camera that
is pretty much a P&S with interchangeable lenses. An inevitable
comparison must be drawn to the Pentax Auto 110. It, the Q, and now
the 1, are all cute little cameras that would likely only appeal to
someone whos primary concern is obviously not image quality.

The size difference between any of the mirrorless systems is not so
great that one could argue that an even smaller, thinner, lighter body
is a compelling factor for giving up massive amounts of sensor real
estate. The sensor-size comparison link in the article helps it sink
in.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/digitalcameras/pentax-q-smallest-compact-interchangeable-lens-camera-sports-biggest-price-tag/5084?tag=mantle_skin;content

Tom C.

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Re: Price check: K-5 $1099 @ Henry's

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Any Canucks looking to score a K-5 can do so for $1099.99 presently at
> Henry's ...
>
> http://www.henrys.com/62187-PENTAX-K-5-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx
>
> You're welcome.
>
> -bmw

I'll wait until the K-2.8 comes out and snag a K-5 then.:-)

Dave
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Re: First Android App: Film Developing Timer

2011-09-21 Thread Thibouille
That is a nice addition Colin. Thank you.
I usually use Massive Dev Charts but a free option is always good to have.

If that helps you, I may try it on unusual Android screens, just for
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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread William Robb

On 21/09/2011 8:34 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

N's sensor is larger, of course.  Seems to be the same price range as
the Q.  Pentax really needs to lower the price of the Q.  I still
maintain that at $400 it's worth consideration.



I played with a Q for a while yesterday.
It's really little, but it didn't draw me in the way I hoped it would.
I think because it's too small, and the lens is too big.
I like viewfinders, and I'd like the Q a lot more if it had one.
I'd even settle for an EVF, as much as I loath them.
Other than that, it seems like a nice little camera.

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Price check: K-5 $1099 @ Henry's

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker
Any Canucks looking to score a K-5 can do so for $1099.99 presently at 
Henry's ...


http://www.henrys.com/62187-PENTAX-K-5-DIGITAL-SLR-BODY.aspx

You're welcome.

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Re: Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
N's sensor is larger, of course.  Seems to be the same price range as
the Q.  Pentax really needs to lower the price of the Q.  I still
maintain that at $400 it's worth consideration.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> By now everyone knows about Nikon's mirrorless camera entry, the Nikon 1.
> Mike Johnston's take: http://goo.gl/uTSZe
>
> But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics) echos the
> Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation for the notion of a
> very compact system with a small sensor.
>
> If nothing else, this will help keep companies making mount adapters busy
> for years to come.
>
> -bmw
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Wow, lots of typos:  1. God made us, 2. spaces like Larry's grove,
3.so the narrative becomes.

Clearly not a lot of natural selection for the spelling center of the brain.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> It's a beautiful place to have in your backyard.  A grove of trees can
> be a sacred space.
>
> An aside about spirituality: There is a theory that as humans evolved
> and became more intelligent, we faced increasing anxiety over the
> prospect of death.  Changes slowly occurred in the brain by natural
> selection that allowed for "religious/spiritual experiences" whose
> biological purpose was to help us live with the prospect of death.  Of
> course, I've deliberately phrased this in purely evolutionary terms;
> a religious person could simply say that God made up with the ability
> to apprehend his presence.  Whatever your beliefs,  spaces live
> Larry's grove still elicit great feelings of both elation and
> tranquility.  These feelings are also difficult to catch with only a
> camera do the narrative becomes so important.  As for me, there is a
> wild bamboo grove that somehow started growing off the running/walking
> trail I use here in Rockbridge County.  It's a favorite place of mine
> but I have never been able to capture its presence adequately in
> pictures.
>
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:57 PM, steve harley wrote:
>>
>>> on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote

>>>
>>> i also wonder if you've seen James Balog's work depicting big trees by 
>>> assembling multiple images taken while ascending, or otherwise; i met him 
>>> when he'd just come out with _Survivors_, his series of animals on white 
>>> backgrounds (we used several of his photos in a magazine i produced), and i 
>>> have since been intrigued by each of what i think of as his experiments in 
>>> context (though, as experiments, they often are better at breaking ground 
>>> than at being aesthetic masterpieces)
>>>
>>> just a taste here, but interesting text:
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> I decided to try another tack, and tried shooting them at night using my 
>> studio strobe.  Here are a couple of different treatments:
>> showing the canopy:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6169096452/
>> just disappearing into the darkness:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168563119/
>>
>> The whole experiment is here:
>>
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627594004271/
>>
>> I think that the answer really will involve shooting them from an entirely 
>> different angle, though I might be able to do something incorporating 
>> people.  If I had some gymnastically inclined folks, I could incorporate the 
>> tree into some sort of human totem pole 
>>
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Re: PESO: Hula hoops and shoelaces

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
Great shot, but a tad of motion blur would have been nice, but .:-)

Dave

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> She did it for hours:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/21/-big/RUNE2917.jpg.html
> Hope she made some sales. -T
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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
Thats very nice.,

Dave

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html
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> Comments always welcome.
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> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
Well done.

Dave

On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Leaping effortlessly through time and space, this is from our trip to Toronto 
> in May:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149418&size=lg
>
> It is a view up the center of this staircase at the Art Gallery of Ontario:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149414
>
> The new AGO interior by Frank Gehry is some of the best architecture I've 
> seen.
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO: The Buck Stops Here

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
Superb

Dave

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=136
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> Comments are invited.
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Re: PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice stern expression behind that little camera.

Dave

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> New A12 Camera Mount for the Ricoh GXR arrived and, of course, I'm busy as 
> all heck right now.
>
> I had some time, just a little, to play with it this evening. I did a 40 
> second HD video with the Nokton 40 ... results are superb.
>
> And I made a self-portrait:
>
>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/110920-0012753.jpg
>  Ricoh GXR+A12 Camera Mount+Nokton 40mm f/1.4
>  ISO 2500 @ f/2 @ 1/40 second
>
> This lens has lovely character in its rendering.
>
> enjoy
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RE: PESO - Bach in the Park

2011-09-21 Thread Bob W
> > Thanks for submitting this, Frank.
> > You know what they say:
> > "There's always room for cello!"
> 
> Thanks, Darren, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.
> Hearing Bach's Cello Suites in the park on the weekend was such a
> treat!
> 
> I'm specifically ~not~ responding to Bob W, as he's simply too sharp
> for me and I'm feeling a bit flat this morning anyway...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

no need to be crotchety about it. We expect a minim-um of good conduct to
stave off this type of discord

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Re: Cab for Hire

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Very noir ! I like it.

Thanks, Godfrey, and a late thanks to everyone else who looked and
commented.  Glad you enjoyed.

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Re: Did It! K-5 On The Way

2011-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Mark C  wrote:
>> Paul's comments on the non-incremental improvement of the K-5 over the K-7
>> gave me the impetus to finally commit, and I just placed my order for a K-5
>> and a couple of 8 gig cards with B&H.
>>
>> I hope it doesn't rain this weekend...
>
> Congrats!
>
> cheers,
> frank

Congrats Mark. My K-5 fund went into the shed, so its back to square 1 agin.

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Speculation: One benefit of the Ricoh purchase for future Pentax DSLRs?

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
I'm intrigued by the Ricoh GR Digital IV, a camera that really has no
direct competition.
Preview here: http://www.dpreview.com/previews/ricohgrdiv/
It appears to be a nearly ideal camera for street photography
(something I don't really do yet, but I digress...)

What struck me is the way the IV "adds (Ricoh's) 'Hybrid AF' system
with which they claim a 2x improvement in AF speed over the GRD III."
This hybrid system uses the conventional (sensor) contrast AF, and an
external AF sensor. According to one poster on dpreview, Ricoh had
this feature "years ago" on their GRD2 and GX200 and there were
"curses when they later removed it".

It makes me wonder if this might be one way of addressing what has
always been seen as a Pentax weakness (AF speed/accuracy).

Another difference noted on the IV is with regard to the LCD screen.
Ricoh has apparently found a way to boost the brightness so it is more
visible in daylight.

Perhaps some of the lessons that Ricoh has learned will find their way
into future Pentax models?

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Re: PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
>>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/110920-0012753.jpg

Frank, Tim:
Thanks for looking! and commenting!

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Re: Did It! K-5 On The Way

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> Paul's comments on the non-incremental improvement of the K-5 over the K-7
> gave me the impetus to finally commit, and I just placed my order for a K-5
> and a couple of 8 gig cards with B&H.
>
> I hope it doesn't rain this weekend...

Congrats!

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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Christine Aguila
 wrote:
> Love it!  cheers, Christine

Thanks, Christine!

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Re: PESO: The Buck Stops Here

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=136
>
> Comments are invited.
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Beautiful!

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Re: PAW89 - Old tree

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 5:47 PM, DagT  wrote:
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA21mm, 1/60s, f/11, ISO100.

GREAT shot!

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Re: PESO - The End

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14219874
>
> Still processing Paul McCartney concert photos from last summer.
>
> The song being sung is "The End" from Abbey Road. This shot is
> literally THE END of the concert, the last note played and last word
> sung, which was "Yeah" having been preceeded by many other 'yeahs'.
>
> The preceding line being:
>
> "And in the end
> The love you take
> Is equal to the love you make."
>
> A truism in my book.

The iconic rock shot!

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Re: PESO - Swirl

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> Leaping effortlessly through time and space, this is from our trip to Toronto 
> in May:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149418&size=lg
>
> It is a view up the center of this staircase at the Art Gallery of Ontario:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14149414
>
> The new AGO interior by Frank Gehry is some of the best architecture I've 
> seen.

Both terrific shots, Rick.

I have to agree with you WRT the architecture of the AGO.  It's one of
the better new pieces we've seen in town over the past few decades.

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Re: PESO - Bach in the Park

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> Thanks for submitting this, Frank.
> You know what they say:
> "There's always room for cello!"

Thanks, Darren, and thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.
Hearing Bach's Cello Suites in the park on the weekend was such a
treat!

I'm specifically ~not~ responding to Bob W, as he's simply too sharp
for me and I'm feeling a bit flat this morning anyway...

;-)

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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I love it, Frank.

Dan
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:17 AM, frank theriault
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> Hope you enjoy:
>
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html
>
> Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
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Re: PESO - Yellow Guy

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Ken Waller  wrote:
> A female American Goldfinch.

Thanks, Ken, and thanks to all the other responders.  Now I know!

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Re: PDMLers... talk me in off the ledge, pls!

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> So... I've been thinking more & more about stepping up to the k-5
> recently.  In the interests of research, I wandered over to Pentax
> Forums, just to see if there was any buzz, any good gossip, that might
> influence my decision, or at least, timing.
>
> Well, I think that was a mistake.
>
> Down the rabbit-hole I went, for more precious weekend hours than I
> care to admit.  I got totally sucked in to the hand-wringing &
> rumor-mongering & back and forthing over k-5 "issues".  And what about
> the the k-5 vs d7000 vs d700?  Will there ever be a ff pentax
> offering?  Will it be mirrorless?  What will ricoh do?  Is there a
> roadmap?  New products this fall?  Maybe in Feb, then?  How about fall
> 2012?  Should we wait?  Should we buy?  Should we sell it all & move
> to nikon?  Can I get Hello Kitty on my next camera
>
> I know this is nothing new, but it's really the first time I ever
> waded in this far.  I think I may have PFOD'd.  And now, I can't get
> rid of the anxiety. Tell me it's gonna be ok...
>
> :)
> -c
> (Thanks for listening.)

Buy one.  You'll feel better.

You know you want to.

;-)

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Re: PESO: Hula hoops and shoelaces

2011-09-21 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is an appealing an effective image, particularly in the way you
caught her in a pose similar to that in the posters,

Dan
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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
>
> She did it for hours:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/21/-big/RUNE2917.jpg.html
> Hope she made some sales. -T
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Re: GESO - Band on the Run

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/presentation?presentation_id=539118
>
> By you know who.

Do you think he dyes his hair?

;-)

Funny, I remember back in '63 or '64, an interviewer asking the
Beatles what they'd do "when they grow up".  John (IIRC) was quite
indignant.  Who could have guessed that almost 50 years later (at
least one of them) would still be packing arenas?

Terrific gallery, Tom.

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Re: PESO: Indignity

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
 wrote:
> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=132
>
> Comments are always appreciated.
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

Ha!

Great expression, well caught.

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Re: PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 2:52 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> New A12 Camera Mount for the Ricoh GXR arrived and, of course, I'm busy as 
> all heck right now.
>
> I had some time, just a little, to play with it this evening. I did a 40 
> second HD video with the Nokton 40 ... results are superb.
>
> And I made a self-portrait:
>
>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/110920-0012753.jpg
>  Ricoh GXR+A12 Camera Mount+Nokton 40mm f/1.4
>  ISO 2500 @ f/2 @ 1/40 second
>
> This lens has lovely character in its rendering.

Excellent:  perfect dof, wonderful comp, terrific rendering, nice little cam.

What's not to like?

;-)

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Re: PESO: Hula hoops and shoelaces

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Tim Bray  wrote:
> She did it for hours:
> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/21/-big/RUNE2917.jpg.html
> Hope she made some sales. -T

Very cool!  Love the repeating signs behind her, her expression, her
body language and those hoops.

Terrific shot!

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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-21 Thread William Robb

On 21/09/2011 5:31 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Indeed.  Many biologist believe that human women have permanently
engorged breasts to simulate the cleavage of the buttocks when we
began to walk upright.  I believe this happened initially with Homo



I always thought it was to do with being able to keep their balance.

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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
Well seen!

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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:31 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Indeed.  Many biologist believe that human women have permanently
> engorged breasts to simulate the cleavage of the buttocks when we
> began to walk upright.  I believe this happened initially with Homo
> Erectus.

FINALLY we have an explanation for the source of the expression "I
don't know if you are coming or going."

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OT: Steampunk nirvana

2011-09-21 Thread Bob W
Babbage goes binary:


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Q design "validated" by Nikon's entry?

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker

By now everyone knows about Nikon's mirrorless camera entry, the Nikon 1.
Mike Johnston's take: http://goo.gl/uTSZe

But I'm thinking that the general design (ignoring some specifics) echos 
the Pentax Q system and could be seen as a market validation for the 
notion of a very compact system with a small sensor.


If nothing else, this will help keep companies making mount adapters 
busy for years to come.


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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Jack Davis
Always look forward to your posts, Frank. This is an example of why.

Jack
 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:17 AM
Subject: PESO - King

Hope you enjoy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html

Comments always welcome.

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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Jack Davis
I've experienced the feeling you describe each time I drive through the 
California redwoods. I've never even approached conveying their scale, I think 
mostly due to my avoiding including something of familiar scale in the frame. 
It's difficult to find the space isolate what might be a choice tree or small 
group, plus the lighting is always problematic.
I envy your proximity to their peaceful therapy.
 
Jack
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Subject: My backyard is humbling me

A few of you have been to my house, and have seen my redwood grove.  Even 
though they are young and small for redwoods, at about 100' tall and 4' in 
diameter, they're still pretty big by human standards.  I recently picked up a 
work from home programming contract, and when I need to clear my mind, I tend 
to walk out into the back yard.  It's interesting how such a simple change in 
pace can give me a newfound appreciation of the trees.

Even at my most jaded, simply wandering out into the redwood grove, and looking 
up, has always been a good reminder of my place in the universe. For many 
years, I've occasionally tried to take pictures of the redwood grove and always 
completely fail to convey the emotional impact. If my camera is aimed anything 
close to horizontal, all you see is a bunch of tree trunks, with no context of 
how little of tree that you are seeing.  Aim the camera up, and/or try to 
photograph from a distance, detail is lost and everything seems to blend 
together. In addition to that, there is also the challenge of shooting 
something in fairly deep shade against patchy views of bright sky.

Have any of you succeeded in showing the scale of something this size? either a 
tree, or even a building.  Is it even possible on the scale of a computer 
monitor, or even a print that is less than three feet on it's longest edge?

As you might guess, when I was taking a break this afternoon, I noticed how the 
angle of the light brought out the texture of the bark on one of the trees, 
inspiring me to grab the camera, and give another try. I think that this shot 
does a fair job of showing the texture of the bark, even if it fails to give 
any idea of scale:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168039027/in/set-72157627594004271/lightbox/

This shot, which has trees  in both the foreground and the background, might be 
starting to give some idea of scale:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168577810/lightbox/

Does anyone have suggestions for what I might do?

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Re: PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-21 8:17 AM, frank theriault wrote:

Hope you enjoy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




Fur what it's worth, I enjoyed it greatly.

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Re: PESO: Hula hoops and shoelaces

2011-09-21 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-21 3:53 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

She did it for hours:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/21/-big/RUNE2917.jpg.html
Hope she made some sales. -T



You caught a great expression. Too bad she kinda looks like she's just 
standing there. Would have been good to catch her with more of an 
S-curve in her posture. On a purely catty note, I would have expected 
hours of hula-hooping to have reduced her waistline more. ;-)


-bmw

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PESO - King

2011-09-21 Thread frank theriault
Hope you enjoy:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/king.html

Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: OT But is it art?

2011-09-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
Indeed.  Many biologist believe that human women have permanently
engorged breasts to simulate the cleavage of the buttocks when we
began to walk upright.  I believe this happened initially with Homo
Erectus.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:56 PM, John Francis  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:09:47PM +0100, Bob W wrote:
>>
>> while we're on the subject of critics and assholes, you might enjoy the
>> following from critic and art-lover Kenneth Tynan: "The buttocks are the
>> most aesthetically pleasing part of the body because they are
>> non-functional. Although they conceal an essential orifice, these pointless
>> globes are as near as the human form can ever come to abstract art."
>>
>
> Much the same could be said of boobies ...
>
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First Android App: Film Developing Timer

2011-09-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.proj.mdt&feature=search_result

It has 1 timer bug that has shown up, but I'm working on that right now.
For those doing sheet film development, it supports tray developing with a 
blackout mode.

Sincerely, 

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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Steven Desjardins
It's a beautiful place to have in your backyard.  A grove of trees can
be a sacred space.

An aside about spirituality: There is a theory that as humans evolved
and became more intelligent, we faced increasing anxiety over the
prospect of death.  Changes slowly occurred in the brain by natural
selection that allowed for "religious/spiritual experiences" whose
biological purpose was to help us live with the prospect of death.  Of
course, I've deliberately phrased this in purely evolutionary terms;
a religious person could simply say that God made up with the ability
to apprehend his presence.  Whatever your beliefs,  spaces live
Larry's grove still elicit great feelings of both elation and
tranquility.  These feelings are also difficult to catch with only a
camera do the narrative becomes so important.  As for me, there is a
wild bamboo grove that somehow started growing off the running/walking
trail I use here in Rockbridge County.  It's a favorite place of mine
but I have never been able to capture its presence adequately in
pictures.

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:57 PM, steve harley wrote:
>
>> on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote
>>>
>>
>> i also wonder if you've seen James Balog's work depicting big trees by 
>> assembling multiple images taken while ascending, or otherwise; i met him 
>> when he'd just come out with _Survivors_, his series of animals on white 
>> backgrounds (we used several of his photos in a magazine i produced), and i 
>> have since been intrigued by each of what i think of as his experiments in 
>> context (though, as experiments, they often are better at breaking ground 
>> than at being aesthetic masterpieces)
>>
>> just a taste here, but interesting text:
>>
>> 
>
> I decided to try another tack, and tried shooting them at night using my 
> studio strobe.  Here are a couple of different treatments:
> showing the canopy:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6169096452/
> just disappearing into the darkness:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168563119/
>
> The whole experiment is here:
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627594004271/
>
> I think that the answer really will involve shooting them from an entirely 
> different angle, though I might be able to do something incorporating people. 
>  If I had some gymnastically inclined folks, I could incorporate the tree 
> into some sort of human totem pole 
>
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>
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
The magnitude of scale is almost impossible to communicate in a picture.
I imagine an upward-pointing fisheye sitting at the base of the tree and 
gathering all the trees around it.

Another idea that comes to mind is similar to the first.  But first some 
background thoughts:  The bark closeup says something about information 
available, and for us software developers, information is everything.  
Sometimes (often) we get out Visio and do that broad layout before designing 
the components.  Why?  Because it all needs a framework.  Now back to the first 
pic:  Some sort of panorama might be good, with the detail in the foreground 
and a lot of related information (more trees) to the side.  Again, an ultrawide 
or fisheye would be necessary.  Maybe just 18mm might be enough from the DSLR 
kit lens?

Magnitude is humbling.

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Re: Scanning again!

2011-09-21 Thread Mark Roberts
David Mann wrote:

>On Sep 21, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Well, today my new ExpressCard IEEE1394 card arrived and, much to my
>> surprise, it all works: The computer works with the card; the card
>> works with theIEEE1394-SCSI adapter; the adapter recognizes the
>> scanner; the OS accepts the whole lot!
>
>Congratulations.
>
>I'm planning to hook up my Minolta Multi Pro again at some stage.  
>Lucky for me it's Firewire.  I'd expect to be SOL for drivers but I 
>should be all good with Vuescan.  That's the theory anyway.

Vuescan is what I'm using. Didn't even try the last Konica-Minolta
driver I had.

 
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Re: My backyard is humbling me

2011-09-21 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 20, 2011, at 10:57 PM, steve harley wrote:

> on 2011-09-20 23:21 Larry Colen wrote
>> 
> 
> i also wonder if you've seen James Balog's work depicting big trees by 
> assembling multiple images taken while ascending, or otherwise; i met him 
> when he'd just come out with _Survivors_, his series of animals on white 
> backgrounds (we used several of his photos in a magazine i produced), and i 
> have since been intrigued by each of what i think of as his experiments in 
> context (though, as experiments, they often are better at breaking ground 
> than at being aesthetic masterpieces)
> 
> just a taste here, but interesting text:
> 
> 

I decided to try another tack, and tried shooting them at night using my studio 
strobe.  Here are a couple of different treatments:
showing the canopy:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6169096452/
just disappearing into the darkness:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6168563119/

The whole experiment is here:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157627594004271/

I think that the answer really will involve shooting them from an entirely 
different angle, though I might be able to do something incorporating people.  
If I had some gymnastically inclined folks, I could incorporate the tree into 
some sort of human totem pole 

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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est





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Re: PESO 2011 - self-portrait - GDG

2011-09-21 Thread Tim Bray
That's a nice picture; the textures are exquisite. -T

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> New A12 Camera Mount for the Ricoh GXR arrived and, of course, I'm busy as 
> all heck right now.
>
> I had some time, just a little, to play with it this evening. I did a 40 
> second HD video with the Nokton 40 ... results are superb.
>
> And I made a self-portrait:
>
>  http://homepage.mac.com/godders/110920-0012753.jpg
>  Ricoh GXR+A12 Camera Mount+Nokton 40mm f/1.4
>  ISO 2500 @ f/2 @ 1/40 second
>
> This lens has lovely character in its rendering.
>
> enjoy
> Godfrey
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PESO: Hula hoops and shoelaces

2011-09-21 Thread Tim Bray
She did it for hours:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/21/-big/RUNE2917.jpg.html
Hope she made some sales. -T

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Re: Scanning again!

2011-09-21 Thread David Mann
On Sep 21, 2011, at 8:54 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Well, today my new ExpressCard IEEE1394 card arrived and, much to my
> surprise, it all works: The computer works with the card; the card
> works with theIEEE1394-SCSI adapter; the adapter recognizes the
> scanner; the OS accepts the whole lot!

Congratulations.

I'm planning to hook up my Minolta Multi Pro again at some stage.  Lucky for me 
it's Firewire.  I'd expect to be SOL for drivers but I should be all good with 
Vuescan.  That's the theory anyway.

I should get my old printer up and running again as well.  I think even my 
spare cartridges are past their expiry date.

Dave
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