RE: This is riduculous
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson On 27/09/2011 20:24, Steven Desjardins wrote: They also enclosed a hand-written note telling me to clean my sensor more often and not change my lenses so much. That's great, just great. $6000 camera, stop changing the damn lenses. Almost a Mark. No almost about it. It also needs scanning and publishing. of course. I'll have to try and find it - I hope I haven't thrown it away. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: This is riduculous
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I cared so little about my photos that I wanted to shoot JPEGs, I wouldn't spend the money on a DSLR. That's probably overstating things (a bit). Maybe a bit, but without a little hyperbole, where's the fun? It depends upon the purpose of your photos. I didn't want to have to spend computer time downsizing for some equipment-for-sale photos, so I (today) set my K-x to shoot JPEGs at the LOWEST quality settings. I'm still glad to have a DSLR, be able to stick a SMC Takumar 50mm f4 macro on it, see though the viewfinder for manually focusing (with in-focus confirmation beep), have Image Stabilization, etc. I guess I'm realistic to know that each time I push the shutter button it isn't to create a masterpiece, but it's nice to have the options for just-about-anything at your disposal. There is some truth in that. However, if an unexpected opportunity for a great shot comes up, and I have just moments to grab my camera and take the shot, I want the default to be what will give me the most opportunity to catch the great shot, rather than merely a pretty good picture of an amazing view. Indeed. And there isn't necessarily any additional work involved in shooting JPEG. If you shoot raw and use something like Lightroom you can set Lightroom up so that it applies presets during the import which will produce something like you'd get from shooting JPEG, while retaining the raw data so you can go back and do some editing if you have accidentally shot a masterpiece. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bong, please check in
We hear the wind and rain was up near you. Hope all is well. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
L'Shanah Tovah
Happy New Year folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOiahIvAZU -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: L'Shanah Tovah
Happy new year, everyone! On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Happy New Year folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOiahIvAZU -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong, please check in
Present, ma'am... High and dry...but I couldn't resist running to the bay the day before the storm to take these: https://plus.google.com/photos/118415432868398259960/albums/5657333433025939153 It was jaw dropping to watch storm surges crash through the place on the day the storm hit. Thanks! Bong PS to Ann too... On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: We hear the wind and rain was up near you. Hope all is well. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
I should do that. I end up just buying big cards and shooting JPEG + RAW. And just to encourage the hyperbole, do folks really think that JPEGS out of the K5 are really no better than the JPEGS out of a PS? I ask because I have the infamous friend looking at a camera right now. She actually does care about image quality (mostly sharpness) but hates to carry the K10D she bought a few years ago. She ends up using a Nikon compact. I've been letting her sample the results from my m43 cameras. One reason I aim her at Olympus is that they seem to have really good JPEG engines since she will never do use RAW. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:26 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: If I cared so little about my photos that I wanted to shoot JPEGs, I wouldn't spend the money on a DSLR. That's probably overstating things (a bit). Maybe a bit, but without a little hyperbole, where's the fun? It depends upon the purpose of your photos. I didn't want to have to spend computer time downsizing for some equipment-for-sale photos, so I (today) set my K-x to shoot JPEGs at the LOWEST quality settings. I'm still glad to have a DSLR, be able to stick a SMC Takumar 50mm f4 macro on it, see though the viewfinder for manually focusing (with in-focus confirmation beep), have Image Stabilization, etc. I guess I'm realistic to know that each time I push the shutter button it isn't to create a masterpiece, but it's nice to have the options for just-about-anything at your disposal. There is some truth in that. However, if an unexpected opportunity for a great shot comes up, and I have just moments to grab my camera and take the shot, I want the default to be what will give me the most opportunity to catch the great shot, rather than merely a pretty good picture of an amazing view. Indeed. And there isn't necessarily any additional work involved in shooting JPEG. If you shoot raw and use something like Lightroom you can set Lightroom up so that it applies presets during the import which will produce something like you'd get from shooting JPEG, while retaining the raw data so you can go back and do some editing if you have accidentally shot a masterpiece. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - The Fashion Show
So, on the weekend the wife and I went to something called The Clothing Show (or something like that). It was mostly booths of designers and clothing and accessory stores selling their wares. They had a runway at one end of the hall with little fashion shows every hour or so. I wasn't so interested in the shows, more the photographers. They were fun to watch: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/fashion-show.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: L'Shanah Tovah
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Happy New Year folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOiahIvAZU You beat me to it! (I thought it started tonight at sundown). L'Shanah Tovah to everyone. May your year be prosperous and happy! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Glamorous Life of a Fashion Photographer
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Now *that's* funny. Great shot, Frank! It looks like baldy is trying to chimp iPod's preview too. Where was this? Yeah, I noticed the chimping, too! It was at The Clothing Show, Queen Elizabeth Building, at the Ex, this past weekend. Thanks for your kind words, and thanks to everyone else who commented. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bong, please check in
Bong, Good to hear your safe. Strong winds must have put those water drops on the front of your lens. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:12 AM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: Present, ma'am... High and dry...but I couldn't resist running to the bay the day before the storm to take these: https://plus.google.com/photos/118415432868398259960/albums/5657333433025939153 It was jaw dropping to watch storm surges crash through the place on the day the storm hit. Thanks! Bong PS to Ann too... On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: We hear the wind and rain was up near you. Hope all is well. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: L'Shanah Tovah
May the new year be sweet for all of you. Apples and honey for all. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:01 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Happy new year, everyone! On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Happy New Year folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOiahIvAZU -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Fashion Show
On 11-09-28 8:03 AM, frank theriault wrote: So, on the weekend the wife and I went to something called The Clothing Show (or something like that). It was mostly booths of designers and clothing and accessory stores selling their wares. They had a runway at one end of the hall with little fashion shows every hour or so. I wasn't so interested in the shows, more the photographers. They were fun to watch: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/fashion-show.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank Fun stuff! I love how that woman with the iPhone crowds up bravely beside all the guys and gals with big black SLRs. :-) -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Ashley
From: Michael Beacom On Sep 26, 2011, at 6:51 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/26/2011 5:04 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/25/2011 5:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: From the same SIMBY(*) photo walk, some graffiti under the bridge up the river from my house: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6182588449/in/set-72157627752114722/lightbox/ Wow! I like that a lot, Mr. Colen! Both the art itself and your capture! Thanks. You really do live in a wonderful place. I guess I've gotten spoiled. I had a hard time wondering why people need to go to exotic locales to find things to photograph, rather than just looking around their own neighborhood. Then I visited my friend Candice in Reseda. The place isn't even quite ugly enough to be interesting. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) Reseda- sounds like a lens I had once- too soft to be good, and too sharp to be interesting. I thought Reseda was a Greek liqueur that tastes like pine trees? - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4524 - Release Date: 09/28/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
on 2011-09-28 00:26 Bob W wrote Indeed. And there isn't necessarily any additional work involved in shooting JPEG. If you shoot raw and use something like Lightroom you can set Lightroom up so that it applies presets during the import which will produce something like you'd get from shooting JPEG, while retaining the raw data so you can go back and do some editing if you have accidentally shot a masterpiece. i was amazed at what i'd lost shooting JPEG with the first shots from my K200d; i shot my brother's wedding in my childhood romping grounds, a beautiful foggy bay in Maine, then drove to the Bay of Fundy and spent days shooting in bright overcast; in truth i didn't understand exposure very well either, and yet i did get lots of keepers, but when i go back with my current knowledge i see adjustments that i just can't make and that's with the k200d, which has only 11+ stops of dynamic range (vs. 8 for JPEG); if i had a K5 i'd be throwing away another two stops at least but despite years of experience as a digital workflow consultant, getting set up with a RAW workflow was off-putting; it _is_ work to get started; once you get used to it, Aperture or Lightroom will actually reduce your workload (things like backups, generating versions and exporting downrezed versions are much easier), but you will also be more tempted to tweak, so unless you have a lot of discipline to treat your images like slide film, your time investment will probably go up, but it won't feel like work and it comes around too — for me shooting RAW has helped a lot in improving my shooting technique -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Sep 28, 2011, at 4:38 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I should do that. I end up just buying big cards and shooting JPEG + RAW. And just to encourage the hyperbole, do folks really think that JPEGS out of the K5 are really no better than the JPEGS out of a PS? That depends. If you left the K5 at home because it was too big and got the shot with a PS that you had with, the PS JPEGs would be better. If I'm photographing blues dancers, in a dark room, without using a flash, I could probably get better jpegs with the K-5 than I could using RAW with most PS. I ask because I have the infamous friend looking at a camera right now. She actually does care about image quality (mostly sharpness) but hates to carry the K10D she bought a few years ago. She ends up using a Nikon compact. I've been letting her sample the results from my m43 cameras. One reason I aim her at Olympus is that they seem to have really good JPEG engines since she will never do use RAW. For me, just about every decision I make about my photography stems from my caring about my photos. Therefore I shoot with a K-5 because that gives me the best quality that I can afford. I shoot in RAW, and run every photo through lightroom because I want to at least slightly tweak just about every keeper that I take. There are a lot of snapshots that go up onto facebook with no more than color correction and a slight exposure tweak. Oops, can't do that in camera. I also shoot in RAW because I'm often pushing the envelope of the camera's performance and Lightroom on my desktop computer can do a lot better job massaging the file than a little JPEG engine in my camera, and LR3 does a much better job that LR2 did last year, or LR did a year before that. This means that photos that I particularly like, but which were too noisy back then, are photos that I can go back and reprocess, to make even better: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331502051/ I firmly believe that a good photographer can get good, even great, shots with any camera, that the camera limits what shots you can get, rather than the quality of the art. If the shot that you want to take is exceptionally clear, under challenging light, JPEGs won't do it. As to your friend, all she really needs is good enough for her, what probably matters more than image quality is the user experience. It sounds like she'd be happier with decent shots from a camera that is easy for her to use, than great shots with a camera that takes a bit more work, or is more awkward to carry around. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331502051/ That's a really neat shot (and well-processed). How did the rays arise? Are they reflections off the faces of the lighthouse glass? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The best film-days analogy I have is that shooting straight to JPEG is like shooting Polaroids, and shooting RAW is like shooting negatives. The Polaroid gives you the convenience of straight to finished picture, at the expense of doing any darkroom work. Everyone shoots differently and decides what convenience level they prefer and what they'll give up for it. For me, the RAW image I get in the camera is just the beginning of the journey to a finished image. I don't publicly display a single image, not one, that I can say is Straight Out Of Camera. I have lots of images that I've never edited, but it's because they haven't been flagged as keepers for further work. My own take on the RAW/JPEG film analogy: I used to have my own B/W darkroom where I pushed, pulled, dodged and burned--that was like shooting RAW. However I never got around to color chemistry and professional labs were not that too accessible so I depended on and was at the mercy of commercial photo labs--that was like shooting JPEGs. Bong -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. Mark. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
Good example, Bong. I still don't light LR. After all this time, it still feels unnatural. I guess I'm just one of those that will have to take a course to really learn how to use it. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:07 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: The best film-days analogy I have is that shooting straight to JPEG is like shooting Polaroids, and shooting RAW is like shooting negatives. The Polaroid gives you the convenience of straight to finished picture, at the expense of doing any darkroom work. Everyone shoots differently and decides what convenience level they prefer and what they'll give up for it. For me, the RAW image I get in the camera is just the beginning of the journey to a finished image. I don't publicly display a single image, not one, that I can say is Straight Out Of Camera. I have lots of images that I've never edited, but it's because they haven't been flagged as keepers for further work. My own take on the RAW/JPEG film analogy: I used to have my own B/W darkroom where I pushed, pulled, dodged and burned--that was like shooting RAW. However I never got around to color chemistry and professional labs were not that too accessible so I depended on and was at the mercy of commercial photo labs--that was like shooting JPEGs. Bong -- Bong Manayon http://bong.manayon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. On 9/28/2011 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
From: Bruce Walker On 11-09-27 5:38 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen I just ran across my photos from burning man a year ago where I hadn't realized that my freshly repaired K20 had been reset to the factory default of shoot jpeg. If I cared so little about my photos that I wanted to shoot JPEGs, I wouldn't spend the money on a DSLR. If you get the exposure (and white balance, and ...) correct in camera JPEG is all you need. The best film-days analogy I have is that shooting straight to JPEG is like shooting Polaroids, and shooting RAW is like shooting negatives. The Polaroid gives you the convenience of straight to finished picture, at the expense of doing any darkroom work. Then I guess RAW+ would be like shooting Type 55 Polaroids. I like that. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4524 - Release Date: 09/28/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com ...if an unexpected opportunity for a great shot comes up, and I have just moments to grab my camera and take the shot, I want the default to be what will give me the most opportunity to catch the great shot, rather than merely a pretty good picture of an amazing view. Exactly my logic for why I think the default to not fire in A-mode is RETARDED! If I mount a lens on the front of the camera it MEANS I want to take a picture. It does NOT mean I want to consult the manual. It does NOT mean I want figure out what a F-- message is. It does NOT mean I want to scroll through menus. Making me do those things EVEN ONCE, may make me miss the shot. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On 28/09/2011 11:23 AM, Tom C wrote: Exactly my logic for why I think the default to not fire in A-mode is RETARDED! If I mount a lens on the front of the camera it MEANS I want to take a picture. It does NOT mean I want to consult the manual. It does NOT mean I want figure out what a F-- message is. It does NOT mean I want to scroll through menus. Making me do those things EVEN ONCE, may make me miss the shot. Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? The Idea of a bigger alarm flashing on the back screen is good, perhaps a rousing Sousa march to get the user's attention would also be necessary, and what would really be nice is to have the users manual programmed into the camera's software, complete with pop ups that tell you exactly what has gone wrong, and exactly what you need to do to correct your camera's settings. And what would be really, really nice would be a camera that we can program in the scene types that we want to capture and just send the damned thing out on it's own to capture them for us. -- William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Fashion Show
I did this at Erin's wedding last year, took a lot of behind the photographer shots. Makes for an interesting look. Dave On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:03 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: So, on the weekend the wife and I went to something called The Clothing Show (or something like that). It was mostly booths of designers and clothing and accessory stores selling their wares. They had a runway at one end of the hall with little fashion shows every hour or so. I wasn't so interested in the shows, more the photographers. They were fun to watch: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/fashion-show.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331502051/ That's a really neat shot (and well-processed). How did the rays arise? Are they reflections off the faces of the lighthouse glass? I like to use this as a puzzle. It was a foggy night, the lighthouse had four beams, it was done with a single press of the shutter. How do you think I did it? Answer below -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. It was a 10 second exposure. I put my hand in front of the lens and moved it back and forth once or twice a second, effectively turning it into about 15 or 20 half second exposures as the beams swept through the fog. I don't remember how many attempts I made at the shot, both at dusk, and late at night, but some of them are in this set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622443730942 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. In the mean time, by starting with a higher price, they get a lot more profit from each camera. If at $800 they make $200 profit on each camera, at $700 they'd only make half the profit. Likewise, Pentax has a lot of teething problem issues with new technology, keeping the price high means fewer people to complain while they work the bugs out, and fewer things they may need to repair.Remember that people were complaining about the price of the K-5 when it came out, and several people on the list just picked them up at $1100. When Pentax came out with the 110, I wonder how many 35mm or 645 folks complained that there'd be no market because of the image quality. On 9/28/2011 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: L'Shanah Tovah
On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:05 AM, frank theriault wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Happy New Year folks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJOiahIvAZU You beat me to it! (I thought it started tonight at sundown). Yeah, I guess it does. But I wasn't going to be up for sundown for Boris. L'Shanah Tovah to everyone. May your year be prosperous and happy! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - The Fashion Show
On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:03 AM, frank theriault wrote: So, on the weekend the wife and I went to something called The Clothing Show (or something like that). It was mostly booths of designers and clothing and accessory stores selling their wares. They had a runway at one end of the hall with little fashion shows every hour or so. I wasn't so interested in the shows, more the photographers. They were fun to watch: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/fashion-show.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. An excellent example of the theriaultian eye, noticing the great shots that aren't obvious. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Physics would argue against this. I looked at the sample images, they were nice, much nicer than I expected from such a small sensor, but there's only so much light that a tiny photosite can capture, and there's only so much wizardry that software can accomplish. Most small sensor cameras, even the most well respected such as the Canon G series have shown only tiny incremental improvements in image quality in their last few incarnations. Larger sensors have a lot more room for improvement and they started out better to begin with. The Q is most probably already at the point where diminishing returns on RD investment are setting in. I'm not saying there won't be improvements, just that they are likely to be small for more and more heroic efforts. On 9/28/2011 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. In the mean time, by starting with a higher price, they get a lot more profit from each camera. If at $800 they make $200 profit on each camera, at $700 they'd only make half the profit. Likewise, Pentax has a lot of teething problem issues with new technology, keeping the price high means fewer people to complain while they work the bugs out, and fewer things they may need to repair.Remember that people were complaining about the price of the K-5 when it came out, and several people on the list just picked them up at $1100. When Pentax came out with the 110, I wonder how many 35mm or 645 folks complained that there'd be no market because of the image quality. On 9/28/2011 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
On 9/28/2011 21:08, Larry Colen wrote: I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I am in the midst of putting my photo collection in a bit more order as Galia's photos are growing in numbers and we share the LR catalog and the HDDs of course. So I recently looked at some photos I made with *istD. I kind of wonder why on earth I spent so much money for the cameras that came after it... Of course there is justification and improvement, but sometimes having a look with your own eyes has a sobering effect, in a manner of speaking. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. With all due respect, Larry, I expect you to be proven wrong, let's say in 3-5 years. By the way TOP by Mike Johnston had an interesting article recently where he showed (albeit pixel peeping 100% thumbnails) that D90 is just a tad worse than D700 and that V1 or J1 or whatever is just a tad worse than D90, but boy, does V1 or J1 or whatever really suck compared to D700... By the way, judging from early samples, new 24MP APS-C sensor from Sony takes quite a step back in high ISO noise department, and all... Presently, K-5 appears like the best choice for all-round kind of photography, without super high resolution specialization such as in fashion, landscapes or building-size enlargement... Your mileage may and probably will vary... Boris P.S This year tenset (actually dozenset) will boast photos chosen by Galia and processed by Galia. Although I will still supervise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
Larry, Very clever! I'll have to remember this the next time I get a foggy lighthouse night. It really makes an interesting photograph. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:58 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331502051/ That's a really neat shot (and well-processed). How did the rays arise? Are they reflections off the faces of the lighthouse glass? I like to use this as a puzzle. It was a foggy night, the lighthouse had four beams, it was done with a single press of the shutter. How do you think I did it? Answer below -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. It was a 10 second exposure. I put my hand in front of the lens and moved it back and forth once or twice a second, effectively turning it into about 15 or 20 half second exposures as the beams swept through the fog. I don't remember how many attempts I made at the shot, both at dusk, and late at night, but some of them are in this set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622443730942 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
In other news, Pentax Digital Photo Utility 4.33 has been released.
Yea, I know I'm probably the only one on the list using this software, but it's the only RAW converter for Pentax that A.) supports my K20D and B.) I can still coerce to work on my desktop, as I'm still running Win2K on it, and C.), I'm cheap and don't want to help support Adobe's continued takeover of the image processing arena. Just a cursory report. The installer no longer needs a properly labeled CD in a drive to install the update, (well that actually stopped a few versions ago but it's nice to see that it hasn't come back). My hacks to get the software to run on the Win2K box still work, (I always feel a bit of trepidation about updates, never know what might break). The main stated reasons on Pentax's site for the update has mostly to do with the 645D,GPS support, and improved noise reduction. However there seems to be an improvement in the speed of most imaging operations. Time will tell. All in all despite the UI being a bit quirky it's a worthy program especially since it's essentially free if you own a Pentax Camera. -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Sep 28, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Larry, Very clever! I'll have to remember this the next time I get a foggy lighthouse night. It really makes an interesting photograph. Thank you. It is one that I'm quite proud of, and actually like better than my photo that made it into augenblick. I was able to tweak the K20 image to acceptable levels of noise, see page 74 of the 2010 PDML annual, but with later upgrades to lightroom I was able to get noticeable improvements. The next time I drive past pigeon point on a foggy night, I may have to see what the K-5 can do. I suspect that this is a case where the best IQ might be achieved by practicing with a digital, then shooting with something like a 645 or 67 film camera. Though, who knows, maybe the K-5 has already surpassed those for long exposure noise. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Of course, its' possible that as the computational power of cameras increases, even a small sensor might be correctable to a level where flaws are hard to detect with the eye. I read somewhere that the Q is selling well in Japan, i.e., made the top ten list. As long as it puts money in Pentax's pockets, I'm for it. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:30 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Physics would argue against this. I looked at the sample images, they were nice, much nicer than I expected from such a small sensor, but there's only so much light that a tiny photosite can capture, and there's only so much wizardry that software can accomplish. Most small sensor cameras, even the most well respected such as the Canon G series have shown only tiny incremental improvements in image quality in their last few incarnations. Larger sensors have a lot more room for improvement and they started out better to begin with. The Q is most probably already at the point where diminishing returns on RD investment are setting in. I'm not saying there won't be improvements, just that they are likely to be small for more and more heroic efforts. On 9/28/2011 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. In the mean time, by starting with a higher price, they get a lot more profit from each camera. If at $800 they make $200 profit on each camera, at $700 they'd only make half the profit. Likewise, Pentax has a lot of teething problem issues with new technology, keeping the price high means fewer people to complain while they work the bugs out, and fewer things they may need to repair. Remember that people were complaining about the price of the K-5 when it came out, and several people on the list just picked them up at $1100. When Pentax came out with the 110, I wonder how many 35mm or 645 folks complained that there'd be no market because of the image quality. On 9/28/2011 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Boris, I kept my *ist DS although is is obsolete. It's better for simple flash set-ups and quality is very good. I know that my K-5 makes better pictures for resolution and noise and low light. (Almost good enough to make me forget about Kodachrome.) But we did make an expensive journey from the *istDS to K-10D to K-20D to K-7 to K-5. I suppose I paid a lot to support Pentax's digital camera development. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/2011 21:08, Larry Colen wrote: I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I am in the midst of putting my photo collection in a bit more order as Galia's photos are growing in numbers and we share the LR catalog and the HDDs of course. So I recently looked at some photos I made with *istD. I kind of wonder why on earth I spent so much money for the cameras that came after it... Of course there is justification and improvement, but sometimes having a look with your own eyes has a sobering effect, in a manner of speaking. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. With all due respect, Larry, I expect you to be proven wrong, let's say in 3-5 years. By the way TOP by Mike Johnston had an interesting article recently where he showed (albeit pixel peeping 100% thumbnails) that D90 is just a tad worse than D700 and that V1 or J1 or whatever is just a tad worse than D90, but boy, does V1 or J1 or whatever really suck compared to D700... By the way, judging from early samples, new 24MP APS-C sensor from Sony takes quite a step back in high ISO noise department, and all... Presently, K-5 appears like the best choice for all-round kind of photography, without super high resolution specialization such as in fashion, landscapes or building-size enlargement... Your mileage may and probably will vary... Boris P.S This year tenset (actually dozenset) will boast photos chosen by Galia and processed by Galia. Although I will still supervise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:08:14AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. Judging by the example pictures in that review, I'd say the Q is significantly better. There are a couple of shots shown taken at ISO 3200 which are much cleaner than anything I could get from my *ist-D (perhaps comparable to what I could achieve at ISO 800). Of course with the D I could put my f/1.4 lens on the front, which gave me a bit more light-gathering capability. There again, though, just that lens alone was probably bulkier and heavier than the Q. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
I agree with you regarding the physics, but sometimes I have to remind myself that many of us where able to take pretty good pictures with ISO100, 200 and 400 film. So even if you are right someone should be able to use this camera for something good. DagT Den 28. sep. 2011 kl. 20:30 skrev P. J. Alling: Physics would argue against this. I looked at the sample images, they were nice, much nicer than I expected from such a small sensor, but there's only so much light that a tiny photosite can capture, and there's only so much wizardry that software can accomplish. Most small sensor cameras, even the most well respected such as the Canon G series have shown only tiny incremental improvements in image quality in their last few incarnations. Larger sensors have a lot more room for improvement and they started out better to begin with. The Q is most probably already at the point where diminishing returns on RD investment are setting in. I'm not saying there won't be improvements, just that they are likely to be small for more and more heroic efforts. On 9/28/2011 2:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Sep 28, 2011, at 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: Read the review, the camera looks to be better than I had thought, but then I hadn't thought too much about it. I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. In the mean time, by starting with a higher price, they get a lot more profit from each camera. If at $800 they make $200 profit on each camera, at $700 they'd only make half the profit. Likewise, Pentax has a lot of teething problem issues with new technology, keeping the price high means fewer people to complain while they work the bugs out, and fewer things they may need to repair.Remember that people were complaining about the price of the K-5 when it came out, and several people on the list just picked them up at $1100. When Pentax came out with the 110, I wonder how many 35mm or 645 folks complained that there'd be no market because of the image quality. On 9/28/2011 11:35 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Huff's unbridled enthusiasm for the Q almost has me reaching for the plastic ... http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2011/09/27/the-pentax-q-digital-camera-review-a-pocket-full-of-pixels/ What I will do is go and fondle one. I owe myself that at least. -bmw -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 65, Issue 184
On 28/09/2011 11:23 AM, Tom C wrote: Exactly my logic for why I think the default to not fire in A-mode is RETARDED! If I mount a lens on the front of the camera it MEANS I want to take a picture. It does NOT mean I want to consult the manual. It does NOT mean I want figure out what a F-- message is. It does NOT mean I want to scroll through menus. Making me do those things EVEN ONCE, may make me miss the shot. Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? The Idea of a bigger alarm flashing on the back screen is good, perhaps a rousing Sousa march to get the user's attention would also be necessary, and what would really be nice is to have the users manual programmed into the camera's software, complete with pop ups that tell you exactly what has gone wrong, and exactly what you need to do to correct your camera's settings. And what would be really, really nice would be a camera that we can program in the scene types that we want to capture and just send the damned thing out on it's own to capture them for us. -- William Robb When I've used my FA lenses in non-A-mode and totally manual lenses on my other Pentax DSLR's I didn't get wild exposure errors. Maybe I was lucky with the scene. However I must admit that the majority of the time I do that, it's night shots and in bulb mode, and I'm viewing the result on the LCD and adjusting. Thinking back though, even in non-bulb mode I didn't have wild exposure errors with the K20D or *ist D when using a manual lens. A user with the exposure errors more than likely does have an A-mode lens and they would likely be able to tell that with lens A they get proper exposure and with lens B they do not. That, for the most part, absolves the body. I understand your point and I'd even agree with you if I felt like it. :-) Stop interfering with my righteous rage. The facts that I was lacking the time to figure out what was going on the other night, was setting up in very low light, my laptop battery kaputted making the .pdf manual out of reach, and wanted to ready the camera immediately for shooting was what frustrated me so much on this. I'd prefer the camera allow me to upload musical selections of my choice and and allow me to assign tracks to error codes. Or they could make it like the Minolta Talker... Too dok, use frash. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
on 2011-09-28 12:59 Steven Desjardins wrote As long as it puts money in Pentax's pockets, I'm for it. there's a danger in that; if it puts too much money in Pentax's pockets, Pentax will think it is the best direction for future camera development; Pentax has to put efforts in multiple directions to hedge its bets, but i'd hate to see the Q siphon off potential investment in an APS-C mirrorless system -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
on 2011-09-28 11:32 William Robb wrote Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? in the software industry, this is called support; do you really think Pentax (or Ricoh) spends much or thinks much about support? if support were a big concern i'd think it would be option (3) — Pentax would have done usability tests and adjusted the design accordingly The Idea of a bigger alarm flashing on the back screen is good, perhaps a rousing Sousa march to get the user's attention would also be necessary, so much sarcasm ... it needn't be anything more dramatic than the memory card full message (or do you find that one too verbose?) and what would really be nice is to have the users manual programmed into the camera's software, complete with pop ups that tell you exactly what has gone wrong, and exactly what you need to do to correct your camera's settings. i don't think it means pop-ups, but some would say that a good user interface can obviate (or embody) the user manual; certainly the DSLR interfaces are improving, but they are moving relatively slowly; one of the most quickly evolving branches of the camera family is the smartphone, where third parties can add powerful tools — more specialized, intuitive and/or powerful interfaces — to the hardware without the camera maker having to fret prioritize features based on marketing potential; i expect soon someone will embed a pluggable operating system (e.g. Android or WebOS) into a quality m43 or similar camera, and the higher-end camera market will never be the same after that -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
I hear you, but I think the Q won't suck up a bunch of RD money. It's appeal is not in a high end sensor. An APS-C MSC, OTOH, will be compared with Sony. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2011-09-28 12:59 Steven Desjardins wrote As long as it puts money in Pentax's pockets, I'm for it. there's a danger in that; if it puts too much money in Pentax's pockets, Pentax will think it is the best direction for future camera development; Pentax has to put efforts in multiple directions to hedge its bets, but i'd hate to see the Q siphon off potential investment in an APS-C mirrorless system -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
I still have many *ist DS shots on CD that I consider some of my best stuff. The Q is probably a good photographic tool for many subjects and styles of shooting. The only part that bothers me is the price. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Boris, I kept my *ist DS although is is obsolete. It's better for simple flash set-ups and quality is very good. I know that my K-5 makes better pictures for resolution and noise and low light. (Almost good enough to make me forget about Kodachrome.) But we did make an expensive journey from the *istDS to K-10D to K-20D to K-7 to K-5. I suppose I paid a lot to support Pentax's digital camera development. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: On 9/28/2011 21:08, Larry Colen wrote: I would be very interested to see comparisons between pictures from the Q, and pictures from some of Pentax's early APS DSLRs. I am in the midst of putting my photo collection in a bit more order as Galia's photos are growing in numbers and we share the LR catalog and the HDDs of course. So I recently looked at some photos I made with *istD. I kind of wonder why on earth I spent so much money for the cameras that came after it... Of course there is justification and improvement, but sometimes having a look with your own eyes has a sobering effect, in a manner of speaking. I expect that in 3-5 years, the Q-format will be capable of photos on par with at least the K-7, if not the K-x or even the K-5. By the time that they have a sensor that'll appeal to the fussier photographers, they'll have a lens selection that will appeal to those photographers as well. They'll also have a low end kit, selling for under $500. With all due respect, Larry, I expect you to be proven wrong, let's say in 3-5 years. By the way TOP by Mike Johnston had an interesting article recently where he showed (albeit pixel peeping 100% thumbnails) that D90 is just a tad worse than D700 and that V1 or J1 or whatever is just a tad worse than D90, but boy, does V1 or J1 or whatever really suck compared to D700... By the way, judging from early samples, new 24MP APS-C sensor from Sony takes quite a step back in high ISO noise department, and all... Presently, K-5 appears like the best choice for all-round kind of photography, without super high resolution specialization such as in fashion, landscapes or building-size enlargement... Your mileage may and probably will vary... Boris P.S This year tenset (actually dozenset) will boast photos chosen by Galia and processed by Galia. Although I will still supervise. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
From: Bob Sullivan Boris, I kept my *ist DS although is is obsolete. It's better for simple flash set-ups and quality is very good. I know that my K-5 makes better pictures for resolution and noise and low light. (Almost good enough to make me forget about Kodachrome.) But we did make an expensive journey from the *istDS to K-10D to K-20D to K-7 to K-5. I suppose I paid a lot to support Pentax's digital camera development. Regards, Bob S. I still have my *ist-D. I have used it within the last 2 months. It may be obsolete, but it's not that obsolete. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4524 - Release Date: 09/28/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
Steve Harley wrote: i expect soon someone will embed a pluggable operating system (e.g. Android or WebOS) into a quality m43 or similar camera, and the higher-end camera market will never be the same after that That would be a stroke of genius for Pentax, in order to get quickly a much stronger presence on the market without having to invest resources they don't have. However, a single move leads to nowhere, as we know many clever ideas were implemented first by Pentax only to be exploited by others. If you make an excellent product, and then almost no one is aware, and those few can hardly find in on the market, you'd better go fishing. A clever idea such the one above must be backed up by proper manufacturing capability, a trustable system (complete enough and not prone to have too many sales to come back for servicing) and a strong marketing strategy targeting stores as much as customers. If store chains are willing to buy Pentax products, then they will help a lot in selling them. Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Steven Desjardins wrote: An APS-C MSC, OTOH, will be compared with Sony. So we'll have an easy winner then. Just compare the A55 with the K-5 and the Nikon D7000: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyslta55/page16.asp Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Three PESO's
I have been following the list regularly and sending messages almost every day. Strangely, no one was replying and also my lovely (!) PESO's have always been ignored. Apparently, I was the only recipient of my messages due to an error on my part (forgetting to return to plain text while composing sending to PDML). Thanks to Doug; I can now really participate. Below are (re)posts of my PESOs: 1) Back from a trip to a region with forests and lakes. Strangely enough, I have only about two images to share; and this is the one I liked more: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14127172 2) This is from Yazilikaya Canyon at Isparta (close to the more familiar Antalya), Turkey. http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=101600Photoname=YAZILIKAYA%20KANYONU (Site in Turkish, by the way). I have toned the image a bit after conversion. A seems to lack some punch but, I don't know... Any ideas? 3) A pointer's time out. A rather grainy monochrome : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14293572size=lg There is probably no point in trying to re-post my various messages to earlier threads :( Already happy to be back again :) Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Three PESO's
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, I was the only recipient of my messages due to an error on my part (forgetting to return to plain text while composing sending to PDML). I'm on a number of mailing lists and PDML is the only one that requires this (and I dislike it a lot). The listserv must be running on a PC Jr or something. :P IMGP1731: I like it and would like it a lot more without the distracting RED thingie in the upper right. My eye keeps wanting to bounce to it. PUAN: Yalnızca Üyeler Very nice. If its not infrared it certainly has that infrared feel. Out, One Summer Afternoon: What a neat, neat image. Love the film/grain feel. Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Three PESO's
On 9/28/2011 1:49 PM, Darren Addy wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, I was the only recipient of my messages due to an error on my part (forgetting to return to plain text while composing sending to PDML). I'm on a number of mailing lists and PDML is the only one that requires this (and I dislike it a lot). The listserv must be running on a PC Jr or something. :P What I dislike is that I can't turn html off on the mail client on my Android. Before I moved my domain to a friend's computer, I was running my own spam filters. I found that if I sent html-only mail to the spam bucket I caught a huge amount of spam, and had very few false positives. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Three PESO's
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:38:59 +0300 Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: 1) Back from a trip to a region with forests and lakes. Strangely enough, I have only about two images to share; and this is the one I liked more: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14127172 Nice colour and graphic elements. might even end up with too much going on. The soap dish and the shadow looks like a good composition in itself. 2) This is from Yazilikaya Canyon at Isparta (close to the more familiar Antalya), Turkey. http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=101600Photoname=YAZILIKAYA%20KANYONU I love this shot. It could use a bit of a boost (I lack the language of the tools to be really clear) to bring the greens up a bit more so they stand out against the other tones in the conversion. but this is my favourite of the three. 3) A pointer's time out. A rather grainy monochrome : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14293572size=lg This one does little for me. I need something to bring attention to the dog, maybe a bit of dodging? nice to see you back. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
The Q should be marketed to backpackers/outdoors magazines. They try to shave ounces everywhere they can. Pretty easy demographic to target also. Darren Addy Kearney, Nebraska -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
on 2011-09-28 15:38 Darren Addy wrote The Q should be marketed to backpackers/outdoors magazines. They try to shave ounces everywhere they can. Pretty easy demographic to target also. Pentax is already a sponsor of the Get Out More tour; i attended at REI in Denver; it was gear-heavy and overrehearsed, but somewhat interesting; they demoed the cute WG-1 screwed to the end of a hiking pole (and gave one away); they had someone wandering the room shooting a K5 without much finesse; they use both on their trips and made a point about their weather resistance (an attribute Q does not share -- maybe a Qw is next?) (i got a pair of cordura socks and some Clif Bars, woohoo) http://www.getoutmoretour.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On 28/09/2011 11:23 AM, Tom C wrote: Exactly my logic for why I think the default to not fire in A-mode is RETARDED! If I mount a lens on the front of the camera it MEANS I want to take a picture. It does NOT mean I want to consult the manual. It does NOT mean I want figure out what a F-- message is. It does NOT mean I want to scroll through menus. ?Making me do those things EVEN ONCE, may make me miss the shot. Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? The Idea of a bigger alarm flashing on the back screen is good, perhaps a rousing Sousa march to get the user's attention would also be necessary, and what would really be nice is to have the users manual programmed into the camera's software, complete with pop ups that tell you exactly what has gone wrong, and exactly what you need to do to correct your camera's settings. And what would be really, really nice would be a camera that we can program in the scene types that we want to capture and just send the damned thing out on it's own to capture them for us. -- William Robb Posted earlier w/wrong subject line: When I've used my FA lenses in non-A-mode and totally manual lenses on my other Pentax DSLR's I didn't get wild exposure errors. Maybe I was lucky with the scene. However I must admit that the majority of the time I do that, it's night shots and in bulb mode, and I'm viewing the result on the LCD and adjusting. Thinking back though, even in non-bulb mode I didn't have wild exposure errors with the K20D or *ist D when using a manual lens. A user with the exposure errors more than likely does have an A-mode lens and they would likely be able to tell that with lens A they get proper exposure and with lens B they do not. That, for the most part, absolves the body. I understand your point and I'd even agree with you if I felt like it. :-) Stop interfering with my righteous rage. The facts that I was lacking the time to figure out what was going on the other night, was setting up in very low light, my laptop battery kaputted making the .pdf manual out of reach, and wanted to ready the camera immediately for shooting was what frustrated me so much on this. I'd prefer the camera allow me to upload musical selections of my choice and and allow me to assign tracks to error codes. Or they could make it like the Minolta Talker... Too dok, use frash. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com on 2011-09-28 11:32 William Robb wrote Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? in the software industry, this is called support; do you really think Pentax (or Ricoh) spends much or thinks much about support? if support were a big concern i'd think it would be option (3) ? Pentax would have done usability tests and adjusted the design accordingly As a software developer, this is probably why I find the F-- message combined with the illogical (to me) default so onerous. It could have easily said, Set CF 37 to enable use of this lens or Use CF menu 6 to enable use of this lens. Even if it said F37 that would be a tiny hint. To put F-- and nothing else is plain sloppy, lazy, and almost a disservice. If it would have done either of the first two messages above I would have been on my way in under a minute. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On 9/28/2011 3:18 PM, Tom C wrote: From: steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com on 2011-09-28 11:32 William Robb wrote Which default will give Pentax the greater frequency of repair requests that require significant tech time? 1) You mount a non A series lens and the camera bricks. 2) You mount a non A series lens and the camera gives wildly incorrect exposures? in the software industry, this is called support; do you really think Pentax (or Ricoh) spends much or thinks much about support? if support were a big concern i'd think it would be option (3) ? Pentax would have done usability tests and adjusted the design accordingly As a software developer, this is probably why I find the F-- message combined with the illogical (to me) default so onerous. It could have easily said, Set CF 37 to enable use of this lens or Use CF menu 6 to enable use of this lens. Even if it said F37 that would be a tiny hint. To put F-- and nothing else is plain sloppy, lazy, and almost a disservice. If it would have done either of the first two messages above I would have been on my way in under a minute. Apparently, the only UIs worse than the one on Pentax DSLRs, are the UIs on any other camera. The problem I have with the Pentax firmware is that it wasn't optimized for someone with my photographic interests. It seems as if it was optimized for beginners used to point and shoot cameras. I'd love for them to have a pro mode UI, that optimizes for shooting in RAW, and possibly drops almost any hand holding mode for user selectable modes. This isn't as big of an issue on the K-5 as it is with the K-x, where most of the dial modes are totally useless to me, especially since I have no idea what they do under the hood, and if I don't know what is actually happening, rather than what problem it is supposed to solve, I'm not going there. Tom C. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Three PESO's
Like the first very much. The red sort of counters the blue soap dish. The second could use a nudge of brightening and contrast. The last is unique, but needs more help than the rather oddly positioned dog. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 1:38 PM Subject: Three PESO's I have been following the list regularly and sending messages almost every day. Strangely, no one was replying and also my lovely (!) PESO's have always been ignored. Apparently, I was the only recipient of my messages due to an error on my part (forgetting to return to plain text while composing sending to PDML). Thanks to Doug; I can now really participate. Below are (re)posts of my PESOs: 1) Back from a trip to a region with forests and lakes. Strangely enough, I have only about two images to share; and this is the one I liked more: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14127172 2) This is from Yazilikaya Canyon at Isparta (close to the more familiar Antalya), Turkey. http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=101600Photoname=YAZILIKAYA%20KANYONU (Site in Turkish, by the way). I have toned the image a bit after conversion. A seems to lack some punch but, I don't know... Any ideas? 3) A pointer's time out. A rather grainy monochrome : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14293572size=lg There is probably no point in trying to re-post my various messages to earlier threads :( Already happy to be back again :) Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Peso - I'm outta here
http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1497797564_Wpdmdfc/Medium just to say hello - I'm buried under a pile of ebay stuff and working on 2 calendars for 2012 Took a brief break on Sunday to visit the central Park Zoo where a friend is a volunteer. The beasties are banded mongeese / mongooses ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com The Q is probably a good photographic tool for many subjects and styles of shooting. The only part that bothers me is the price. I want to like it. The images, as displayed, look pretty good. It's just that, compared to a NEX-7 or NEX-5N, or some of of the other mirrorless systems I'm anecdotally familiar with, the only real thing it has going for it is it's small size and cool looks. If I have one of the other small mirrorless systems that out spec and out perform the Q at a lower or similar price, it's hard to justify, as funds are not unlimited. They definitely carved out a niche at for themselves. They're obviously going after customers for who 1) size is a top priority, or 2) coolness is a top priority, and 3) disposable income is not a problem, and 4) image quality for the price is not a top priority. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Another color or black white choice: Filter Question
On 9/26/2011 1:19 AM, Larry Colen wrote: This gives me an idea. What if I want to see what the picture would look like had I shot it through a red filter. How would I do that? Just drop the green and blue luminance? Twiddle with camera calibration sliders? Is there a better way? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est The red channel alone would be similar to a BW shot taken with a red filter. So just use that channel. Of course, you can layer it onto the image and blend to get a less intense red filter effect. MCC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. I rather like that camera, Larry! Comments, critiques and gratuitous insults accepted in the spirit in which they're offered. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW90 - Drops
On 9/25/2011 6:03 PM, DagT wrote: http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html K-5, DA*50-135mm@135, 1/200s, f/5-6, ISO100. DagT http://www.thrane.name/ NIce shot! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? I rather like that camera, Larry! The K100DS is a surprisingly sweet camera. Kennyboy, is actually, in part, responsible for my getting it. I read his piece on why he liked his D40 so much, and was nearly convinced to get it, I also liked the lower pixel resolution of that sensor, the same as in the D40, to get better performance. When I found out about the advantages of the K100Ds over the D40, for about the same money, that's the direction I went. I like the feel of that body better than any of the other small bodies I've used (K-x, K-r), and the jack for the external shutter release. I wonder what it would cost to get the delaminated viewfinder repaired. BTW, any word on the repairs on your camera? Comments, critiques and gratuitous insults accepted in the spirit in which they're offered. -- Walt -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? Thanks, Larry. Bunched up the way he is there, I'd say he's a little larger in diameter than a quarter. Not nearly as big as a garden spider, or anything like that. But, pretty damned big nonetheless. I rather like that camera, Larry! The K100DS is a surprisingly sweet camera. Kennyboy, is actually, in part, responsible for my getting it. I read his piece on why he liked his D40 so much, and was nearly convinced to get it, I also liked the lower pixel resolution of that sensor, the same as in the D40, to get better performance. When I found out about the advantages of the K100Ds over the D40, for about the same money, that's the direction I went. I like the feel of that body better than any of the other small bodies I've used (K-x, K-r), and the jack for the external shutter release. I wonder what it would cost to get the delaminated viewfinder repaired. I've never shot a Nikon DSLR, so I can't say from firsthand experience -- but, I can say the K100Ds is a much better performer than I'd expected. It feels much more solid than my K-x and the Canon 30D I used for a while -- though not quite as solid as my Olympus E20n -- but that thing is a TANK! BTW, any word on the repairs on your camera? No word yet. I should hear something pretty soon, though. It's getting right about the 3-week mark since I shipped it out. Thanks again! -- Walt Comments, critiques and gratuitous insults accepted in the spirit in which they're offered. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
Thanks for the warning. I'm sure its a great shot.:-) Dave On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. I rather like that camera, Larry! Comments, critiques and gratuitous insults accepted in the spirit in which they're offered. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - I'm outta here
Cute, up here we call them Provincial leaders.:-) Dave On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1497797564_Wpdmdfc/Medium just to say hello - I'm buried under a pile of ebay stuff and working on 2 calendars for 2012 Took a brief break on Sunday to visit the central Park Zoo where a friend is a volunteer. The beasties are banded mongeese / mongooses ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Three PESO's
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: I have been following the list regularly and sending messages almost every day. Strangely, no one was replying and also my lovely (!) PESO's have always been ignored. Apparently, I was the only recipient of my messages due to an error on my part (forgetting to return to plain text while composing sending to PDML). Thanks to Doug; I can now really participate. Below are (re)posts of my PESOs: 1) Back from a trip to a region with forests and lakes. Strangely enough, I have only about two images to share; and this is the one I liked more: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14127172 Like this one. but the upper red bit is a bother to me. 2) This is from Yazilikaya Canyon at Isparta (close to the more familiar Antalya), Turkey. http://www.fotopya.com.tr/Photo.aspx?memberPhotoID=101600Photoname=YAZILIKAYA%20KANYONU (Site in Turkish, by the way). Nice but sems to lack some punch I have toned the image a bit after conversion. A seems to lack some punch but, I don't know... Any ideas? 3) A pointer's time out. A rather grainy monochrome : http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14293572size=lg Love this one, great feel Dave There is probably no point in trying to re-post my various messages to earlier threads :( Already happy to be back again :) Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 5:05 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? Thanks, Larry. Bunched up the way he is there, I'd say he's a little larger in diameter than a quarter. Not nearly as big as a garden spider, or anything like that. But, pretty damned big nonetheless. A photo of him in your hand would be a great way to show how big he is. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 7:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 5:05 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? Thanks, Larry. Bunched up the way he is there, I'd say he's a little larger in diameter than a quarter. Not nearly as big as a garden spider, or anything like that. But, pretty damned big nonetheless. A photo of him in your hand would be a great way to show how big he is. Yes, that would be a good way to do it. Unfortunately, I'm quite taken with my manual prime, and I wouldn't be able to focus properly with one hand full of spider. Maybe I'll get one of my nieces to stand in for me. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 5:55 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 7:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 5:05 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? Thanks, Larry. Bunched up the way he is there, I'd say he's a little larger in diameter than a quarter. Not nearly as big as a garden spider, or anything like that. But, pretty damned big nonetheless. A photo of him in your hand would be a great way to show how big he is. Yes, that would be a good way to do it. Unfortunately, I'm quite taken with my manual prime, and I wouldn't be able to focus properly with one hand full of spider. Maybe I'll get one of my nieces to stand in for me. Silly boy, just set the focus on the lens, then move your hand until the spider is in focus. Use your niece and you're likely to get a shot that looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6119442744/in/set-72157627605282212 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 8:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 5:55 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 7:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 5:05 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: On 9/28/2011 6:47 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 9/28/2011 4:30 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. Nice shots, it would be interesting to have some idea of scale, how big is that monster? Thanks, Larry. Bunched up the way he is there, I'd say he's a little larger in diameter than a quarter. Not nearly as big as a garden spider, or anything like that. But, pretty damned big nonetheless. A photo of him in your hand would be a great way to show how big he is. Yes, that would be a good way to do it. Unfortunately, I'm quite taken with my manual prime, and I wouldn't be able to focus properly with one hand full of spider. Maybe I'll get one of my nieces to stand in for me. Silly boy, just set the focus on the lens, then move your hand until the spider is in focus. Ha! I clearly didn't think that answer through, did I? Use your niece and you're likely to get a shot that looks like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6119442744/in/set-72157627605282212 Ha! It'd probably be a lot like that, only considerably blurrier. I'm not sure the maximum shutter speed is high enough on the K100Ds -- or any other known camera for that matter -- to capture one of my nieces in that situation. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
Unfortunately, it will be a Pentax MSC and a NEX 7 ;-) On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote: Steven Desjardins wrote: An APS-C MSC, OTOH, will be compared with Sony. So we'll have an easy winner then. Just compare the A55 with the K-5 and the Nikon D7000: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonyslta55/page16.asp Dario -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso - I'm outta here
Speaking of the *istD . . .Nice shot. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:19 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Cute, up here we call them Provincial leaders.:-) Dave On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1497797564_Wpdmdfc/Medium just to say hello - I'm buried under a pile of ebay stuff and working on 2 calendars for 2012 Took a brief break on Sunday to visit the central Park Zoo where a friend is a volunteer. The beasties are banded mongeese / mongooses ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Three Amigos
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=142 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: SPIDER WARNING: Chowtime Macros
On 9/28/2011 7:18 PM, David J Brooks wrote: Thanks for the warning. I'm sure its a great shot.:-) Dave Anytime, David. I think you're the reason I posted the warning in the title, in fact. I recall someone on the list getting the heebie-jeebies from a spider photo a while back and saying something about warning. I think it might have been you, but I'm not positive. In any event, I figured the shots would have been nightmare-inducing for people who are arachnophobic, and I didn't want that on my conscience. Best, Walt On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Walt Gilbertldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, While mowing the grass today, I happened upon a rather sizable and horrendous-looking spider having a bite to eat in the backyard and figured I ought to try out Larry's K100D Super with the reversed K 50/1.4. I have to say, I'm rather pleased with the results. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193626522/ f/22, 1/180, ISO 200, flash, handheld http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193620792/ Same as above, slight angle variation, slightly tighter shot. I rather like that camera, Larry! Comments, critiques and gratuitous insults accepted in the spirit in which they're offered. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Attentive
I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Attentive
Charming! Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Steve Huff likes the Q, big time
From: steve harley on 2011-09-28 15:38 Darren Addy wrote The Q should be marketed to backpackers/outdoors magazines. They try to shave ounces everywhere they can. Pretty easy demographic to target also. Pentax is already a sponsor of the Get Out More tour; i attended at REI in Denver; it was gear-heavy and overrehearsed, but somewhat interesting; they demoed the cute WG-1 screwed to the end of a hiking pole (and gave one away); they had someone wandering the room shooting a K5 without much finesse; they use both on their trips and made a point about their weather resistance (an attribute Q does not share -- maybe a Qw is next?) (i got a pair of cordura socks and some Clif Bars, woohoo) http://www.getoutmoretour.com/ Maybe Pentax should have put some emphasis on Get the WORD out more. They were here back in April. Too late now. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Attentive
Nice. They look like they were mooved by your words. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Charming! Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Attentive
Or attracted to your bull. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: Nice. They look like they were mooved by your words. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Charming! Dan Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
So, who owns the copyright?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Attentive
Nice shot, but those poor young beasts look seriously underfed. -T On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg (K7, DA 16-45) Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: The Cradle Will Fall
Hi all, Here's a shot I took today that's a little more of a general audiences type image. The leaves are just now starting to turn on a few trees in western Kentucky, and this particular leaf caught my eye. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6193992814/ K100Ds, K 50/1.4, Manual, f/5.6(?), 1/100, ISO 200 Again, comments and critiques are welcome. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: This is riduculous
On Sep 28, 2011, at 13:29 , Dario Bonazza wrote: Steve Harley wrote: i expect soon someone will embed a pluggable operating system (e.g. Android or WebOS) into a quality m43 or similar camera, and the higher-end camera market will never be the same after that That would be a stroke of genius for Pentax, in order to get quickly a much stronger presence on the market without having to invest resources they don't have. However, a single move leads to nowhere, as we know many clever ideas were implemented first by Pentax only to be exploited by others. If you make an excellent product, and then almost no one is aware, and those few can hardly find in on the market, you'd better go fishing. A clever idea such the one above must be backed up by proper manufacturing capability, a trustable system (complete enough and not prone to have too many sales to come back for servicing) and a strong marketing strategy targeting stores as much as customers. If store chains are willing to buy Pentax products, then they will help a lot in selling them. Sounds like an invitation to a Blue Screen of Death in our 3 LCD to me. And Nikon Virii. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Attentive
I'm sure it was Moosic to thier ears… On Sep 28, 2011, at 18:33 , Rick Womer wrote: I gave a talk at the meeting near Madison last week. Fortunately I was able to rehearse it, with an audience that was gratifyingly attentive. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14302132size=lg Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com The Big Bang was silent, and invisible in it's beginning moments. Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, but I don't think any were able to escape for a little bit more. Once they could, there would have been a flash during expansion. No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years. Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time to that infinitesimally small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt to see what caused that singularity to become the Big Bang. This attempt will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements are now moving faster than light by recent theory, making the information sought beyond a theoretical event horizon. — update to the Pentaxian's thoughts on particle physics, so far. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Shopping Cart
That's pretty good frank. On 11/6/2009 3:34 PM, frank theriault wrote: I've been fiddling around with this for weeks now - still don't have it right, but it's the best I've managed so far. I suspect that until I get a computer with PS (sorry for the same old refrain, but I may be newly computered this weekend) it's not going to get any better than this. I think there's a really good photo in there somewhere, I just haven't massaged it out yet: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/11/shopping-cart.html Hope you enjoy this work in progress. Feel free to comment. cheers, frank -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: So, who owns the copyright?
A virtual Shakespeare should sue for infringement. On 9/28/2011 11:40 PM, John Sessoms wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310 -- Don't lose heart! They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthily search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Devil Dog
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=143 Comments and criticisms appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: So, who owns the copyright?
On 9/28/2011 8:40 PM, John Sessoms wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15060310 The work would go a lot faster if they used shorter string fragment, say one character long. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (from dos4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
