RE: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Walt Gilbert > > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ > > Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. I don't think I've commented on your photo walk pictures before, but I enjoy them very much. They are very atmospheric and make me want to be there. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Apr 19, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: > My seat-of-the-pants thought is that it's a symptom of the same malady > afflicting the music business ... the world has changed but the business > model hasn't, or not enough. For "hard goods" manufacturers like Pentax, > it's probably more accurate to say that the market has changed but their > marketing and distribution models haven't. This was my initial thought as well. It seems that to move forward they may have to piss off some important members of their current distribution chain. I have similar thoughts about the bicycle industry in this country but that's best left to another forum :) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
The blue leaves were a trick of the light. It only looked blue at that particular angle. -T On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: > Tim, > I enjoyed your flower photo. It's colorful, but blue leaves ?!? > The comment on the pathway was interesting as well. > Regards, Bob S. > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Tim Bray wrote: >> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/-big/RUNE4799.jpg.html >> >> But captured in a surprising place: >> http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/California-Creek >> >> -T >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Larry (and other shroomers) Bait
On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > I spotted this growing in the yard by an old oak stump. Never seen one like > it before and thought some of the shroom devotees might know what it is or at > least find it of interest. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7092242349/ Looks like a nice ripe cheese. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
On Apr 19, 2012, at 11:41 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ I like the butterflies. Some of those shots have a real 3D look to them. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Stangers in the City
Thanks, Walt and Jack. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > On 4/18/2012 8:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15563342&size=md >> >> Comments are invited. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > I love it, Dan! > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Being back, sorta
Hello there. I'll try to delurk and see if I can handle it. How have you been, ladies and gentlemen while I was standing outside the building? Over here not much happened except that I got myself a second K-5 with a focusing screen that is said to be special for manual focusing (it is indeed) so that I can now return to my most favorite lens - A 50/1.2. Galia gets my another K-5 for her main camera and K-7 as you might have seen is going to be sold. If you frequent (or not so frequent) my blog, you can see most recent shots from the vacation we recently had. Galia did really well with her K-7. Cheers! Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
On 2012-04-18 23:33, John Sessoms wrote: A box of rocks is smarter than the average cat. Smart or dumb, a cat rarely gives a crap about the things important to us humans. :) -- Doug "Lefty" Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook "NutDriver Racing" Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On 2012-04-18 15:51, Tom C wrote: I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. My seat-of-the-pants thought is that it's a symptom of the same malady afflicting the music business ... the world has changed but the business model hasn't, or not enough. For "hard goods" manufacturers like Pentax, it's probably more accurate to say that the market has changed but their marketing and distribution models haven't. And they have less room to adjust, due to the very "hardness" of their product. I don't know what the answer is, but I'm not convinced that (effectively) raising prices is a useful part of it. -- Doug "Lefty" Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook "NutDriver Racing" Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
A box of rocks is smarter than the average cat. From: Always thought malamutes were smarter than the average cat. Cute ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:07 PM Subject: Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. We taught my dog to drink with a straw: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14301920 Cute pup. ... and don't get me wrong, I like cats. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Larry (and other shroomers) Bait
That mushroom is definitely dead... If anyone claims to be able to identify it from that photo..well... just don't eat it :-) ann On 4/18/2012 22:32, Walt Gilbert wrote: I spotted this growing in the yard by an old oak stump. Never seen one like it before and thought some of the shroom devotees might know what it is or at least find it of interest. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7092242349/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
lol! That's GREAT , Frank -- just love it ann On 4/18/2012 22:04, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Lyrid meteor shower on April 21st
Dan's words: NASA Science News for April 18, 2012 Astronomers and astronauts are joining forces for an unusual astrophotography experiment during the peak of the Lyrid meteor shower on April 21st. FULL STORY: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/18apr_lyrids/ Thanks for the info, Dan. I was going to shoot (or at least try) Iridium 21 near 4:45, april 22nd, but now I'll be looking for more. If only I could get both Iridium and meteor - this time in strenght. -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br ps: with subject line this time... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
I'm certainly a value/bang-for the buck kind of guy. I'm terribly late to the K-5 party, but I'm hoping to snag one soon. I believe that it is *still* near the top of the heap (if not at the top) of the best APS-C cameras available today. I'm pretty pleased with the 20x30 prints I've seen from APS-C cameras and frankly, I don't think there are many images that I'm going larger than that with. I think it provides a lot of bang-for-the-buck particularly if one can buy one around $900 (body). I also think it is sort of amazing that I can get *still* probably within $75 for what I paid for my K-x (which I purchases as a low-mileage used kit) - which will help pay for the upgrade. That's value too. Comparing that to the Nikon 800/E (which is 3x the price of the K-5) is sort of like comparing a $25,000 Prius with a $75,000 Mercedes Benz CLS. They aren't really targeting the same demographic. If your discretionary income let's you afford some of the finer things in life, more power to you. A lot of people are going to have a harder time justifying an additional $2000 for a camera body, particularly if it also means they start from Square One on lenses and other accessories. (Frankly, a lot of the 800/E specs seem aimed more at videography than still.) If *Pentax* released a full frame camera with the 800's specs of only 4 FPS and top (real) ISO of 6400, you could hear the PentaxForums screams in Nebraska. I don't think the fact that there are far more expensive cars out there changes the bang-for-the-buck with the Prius and I'd say the same for the K-5. Should Pentax announce a full frame camera (I'm last of the true believers) particularly for in the neighborhood of $2700 that can take advantage of all your K-mount stuff, I'd think that would have to give one looking for another step-up pause. My grandmother told me a long time ago that "the grass is always greener on the *other* side of the fence". That's human nature. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
(sem assunto)
Dan's words: NASA Science News for April 18, 2012 Astronomers and astronauts are joining forces for an unusual astrophotography experiment during the peak of the Lyrid meteor shower on April 21st. FULL STORY: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/18apr_lyrids/ Thanks for the info, Dan. I was going to shoot (or at least try) Iridium 21 near 4:45, april 22nd, but now I'll be looking for more. If only I could get both Iridium and meteor - this time in strenght. -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Larry (and other shroomers) Bait
That is indeed weird -- and ugly. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > I spotted this growing in the yard by an old oak stump. Never seen one like > it before and thought some of the shroom devotees might know what it is or > at least find it of interest. > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7092242349/ > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Larry (and other shroomers) Bait
I spotted this growing in the yard by an old oak stump. Never seen one like it before and thought some of the shroom devotees might know what it is or at least find it of interest. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7092242349/ -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
Excellent. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Don't believe they needed the sign. ;-) > > Jack > > > - Original Message - > From: frank theriault > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:04 PM > Subject: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
Don't believe they needed the sign. ;-) Jack - Original Message - From: frank theriault To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:04 PM Subject: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Stangers in the City
Doesn't appear anyone is noticing. ;-) Fun catch! Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 6:56 PM Subject: PESO: Stangers in the City http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15563342&size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
Excellent exposure, Frank -- maintaining the detail in the dog on the right would be awfully tricky for me. Also, great-looking dogs. Both look like they may have some mastiff blood in them. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 9:04 PM, frank theriault wrote: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
Woof! (I mean that in a good way.) Love it. :) -c On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM, frank theriault wrote: > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
I love the expressions! Nice capture, Frank Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:04 PM, frank theriault wrote: > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html > > Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > > -- > "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
I agree -- that's a really subtle, eye-pleasing color. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 5:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: G'day all I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - No Parking - Strictly Enforced
http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/no-parking-strictly-enforced.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
Thanks, Walt and Paul. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:03 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > On 4/18/2012 1:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 >> >> Comments are appreciated. >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > Nice, serene capture, Dan! > > I love the willow in the background. There just aren't enough of those in > the world. > > -- Walt > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Stangers in the City
On 4/18/2012 8:56 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15563342&size=md Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola I love it, Dan! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Stangers in the City
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Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> So Tom, are you saying that the only reason you and others use Pentax gear is > to get a lower price? I, and at least a few others, > use Pentax because we > prefer their product to Nikon, Canon, and other brands. > > stan > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > >> >> So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased >> prices down our throats. >> >> How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. >> pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? >> I can't speak for others Stan, but for myself that would essentially be a yes. When I was making less than 1/4 of my current pay, I bought a used Pentax MX and 4 used lenses for a total of $150. Then seven years later when I wanted to upgrade to an AF body, it came down to a PZ-1p or a Nikon 8008S. The Pentax was spec'd almost identically, cost a bit less and had an on-body flash. The Nikon would have required another $350 or so for a flash unit, plus I already had all the legacy lenses (which I rarely used after having an AF body). I also bought Linda a ZX-10 and Tamron K-mount AF zoom. Then in 2004, the Pentax *istD came along. What was the pattern I would follow? I've bought 5 Pentax lenses since then including a $1000 Sigma 50-500. At this point, with the mind-blowing D800/E, the question becomes do I spend another disposable $.XX on Pentax or do I spend a disposable $.XX on Nikon, funding a portion of the purchase with the sale of my Pentax gear (lenses)? Who is producing the products I would rather 'dispose' additional money on now? Pentax with the 645D, the Q, the K-01, or another manufacturer? I'm not dissing Pentax, disrespecting Pentax users, or even the image quality one can obtain with Pentax gear. If that were the case I'd have left Pentax long ago. Pentax has been a bang-for-the-buck brand since the 90's if not before. When one begins to feel less bang... Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Photo parties for kids?
Interesting idea... Off the top of my head - a few thoughts: - You would want to partner with an experienced kid-wrangler. 8-12 kids is a lot to manage, especially when the fun/silly/exciting photography is going on. Without someone directing traffic, it could easily devolve into a lot of crazy. And not the photogenic kind. ;) - Your idea sort of reminds me of the "photo booth" concept you see at weddings these days. There's a camera/lighting set-up in the corner, maybe some props, and guests are invited to ham it up for the camera, and they get a printed photo of themselves as a party favor. That might be something to explore as an add-on to other events for kids, like bday parties... it could fly in certain markets. - On a related note, I have a photographer friend who does just that at his own kids' school events. Middle school dances, that sort of thing. Though I'm not sure if he gets paid to do so, or if he just volunteers as a parent... - Also calls to mind "mini-sessions" -- where a portrait photographer has a set-up, in a studio or on location, and they book several back-to-back quickie (10-15min) portrait sessions. Minimal background & wardrobe options. Maybe your party idea could work with the senior portrait crowd? Best of luck - keep us posted! :) -c (Christine from Boston, owner/manager of three kids.) On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > One thing I've done a couple of times, which worked out very well, was what I > call a portrait party, where you get a group of friends together, and do > portrait sessions with each of them. It ends up with a lot less down time > when nobody is being photographed, set up time is shared among four or five > people, and the net result is that I can charge a lot less per person. One > big advantage of it is that it is a lot of fun, people have their friends > there, and you get a lot more "honestly happy smiles" rather than the forced > "smile for the camera" grimaces. > > I've had a few people ask me about photographing kids lately. I've only > photographed kids a couple of times, just enough to understand how much more > difficult it can be. The first problem is that you only have a few minutes > before their good mood is used up. > > What follows is a very blue sky idea, not worked out at all, but I think it > has promise, and I'd love feedback from people with more experience on the > subject than I. > > I wonder how it would work to do a portrait party for kids. Have snacks, > toys, games etc for the kids that aren't in front of the camera. Do > everything possible to make it a fun afternoon, with the photography being > part of the fun. Possibly even having costumes and props to get kids hamming > it up, and maybe even challenge kids off camera to make the kids on camera > smile and laugh. > > It's quite possible that since each kid would be in front of the camera for > just a short period of time, I could likely even do one of these for > something like 8-12 kids, and not have to charge lots of money per kid. > > Thoughts? Suggestions? Simply pointing out that I'm completely out of my > skull crazy? > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Thank you, Bob! Although I *think* the hawk is actually a very low-flying turkey vulture -- lowest I've ever seen, in fact. I've yet to get the hawk shot I've been wanting since I started shooting, though I did see one today -- WAY off in the distance, about the mid-point of my photowalk. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 8:22 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Nice gallery. Hawk and butterflys are especially nice. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have taken the edge off the aches. I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
I came for the value (the K-x) and I'm staying because I'm a bit of a romantic. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 8:17 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Stan, You are on a slippery slope here. Pentax users are the people who drive old cars and search for good values. We've verified that in prior discussions. We don't need the cashe that comes with Nikon or Canon or Leica. Low prices and good value are keys for us. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: So Tom, are you saying that the only reason you and others use Pentax gear is to get a lower price? I, and at least a few others, use Pentax because we prefer their product to Nikon, Canon, and other brands. stan On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tom C wrote: So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo parties for kids?
Larry's ideas, edited: I wonder how it would work to do a portrait party for kids. Have snacks, toys, games etc for the kids that aren't in front of the camera. Do everything possible to make it a fun afternoon, with the photography being part of the fun. Possibly even having costumes and props to get kids hamming it up, and maybe even challenge kids off camera to make the kids on camera smile and laugh. It's quite possible that since each kid would be in front of the camera for just a short period of time, I could likely even do one of these for something like 8-12 kids, and not have to charge lots of money per kid. Larry, I like the idea - but I'm not positive it would work with all kids. I know some that require undivided attention and even then have problems letting the camera capture them. I did some ID shots for a model agency - they hired me for a number of days, gave their models a time slot like be there 15:45, and I shot some 8 or 10 each hour. Since they were grouped by age, there was always a small group present - one being shot, others in various degress of readiness (make-up, clothing, props) and some watching the fun before or after the session. The agency had no special focus on kids, so no toys were provided. A small number would freeze completely even in that simple setup and require special attention. Some would not succeed at all, and unless they had a niche their future would be elsewhere. I had issues with that decision, for some that I just didn't photograph well enough delivered great results with other photographers. Eventually my position was accepted, and those that didn't did well in our studio could bring a set of pics within the agency's "look for that season". -- luiz felipe luiz.felipe at luizfelipe.fot.br -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Nice gallery. Hawk and butterflys are especially nice. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles > (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer > stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the > feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have > taken the edge off the aches. > > I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and > K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I > road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it > was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ > > Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. > > Thanks! > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> From: Stan Halpin > On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Tom C wrote: > >> >> I've never paid MSRP. MSRP has always been artificially high so that >> anything below that looks like a discount. >> >> In fact if Pentax had demanded MSRP for their products, my association >> with Pentax would have been over at the time I was choosing between a >> PZ-1p and a Nikon 8008s. >> >> I specifically DON'T buy expensive items in the local camera store >> BECAUSE they attempt to sell it at MSRP or close to it. Yeah, go ahead >> and knock $50 or a $100 off MSRP. What are they taking me for, a fool? > > Just to point out that there is another side to the story, I have paid MSRP > (minus a small "good customer" discount") for all of the camera bodies I > bought from the PZ-1p (3) through the MZ-S, (2) and *ist-D (2). After that > the local guy could no longer get goods from Pentax. I paid MSRP because I > wanted a place to go and touch and feel the merchandise, I wanted a place to > take care of my photo processing (and then later my scanning), I wanted Mitch > to stay in business, and it was worth a few hundred bucks "extra" on my > purchases to help keep him in business. I also don't shop Wal-Mart. I think > the drive to the cheapest possible price on everything is a reflection of the > unmitigated greed that consumes such a large portion of the population. We > want to have all of the "stuff" that we can get, and rather than prioritizing > and choosing what luxuries we will have that we can afford at a reasonable > price, we go for cheap low-quality stuff just to have it. Pentax has been > extraordinary in providing high quality goods at low prices; at some point > the only rational options for them are to lower quality or raise prices; I am > comfortable with the latter. It probably means I will only buy one K-3 rather > than my preferred two, but I can deal with that. > > stan I don't disagree with much of what you say Stan. Is that local guy still around? I hope so, not that it matters for the sake of this discussion. I think back in the pre-WWW/digital boom days many of us would have paid closer to MSRP. For one thing, items were not disposable as they are now. When a person bought a film camera, they could reasonably expect to get 10+ years of use out of it, if not more. Now I view most, if not all, digital items I buy as more or less disposable. Likely I'll have stopped using them in 2 - 3 years because technology has advanced. The resale value is a small fraction of the original price, so even digital cameras that old are for enthusiasts or pro's, essentially paperweights. That's an incentive to pay as low a price as possible... do I pay the premier grocery store price for razor blades or the Walmart/Costco price? I agree somewhat with the greed statement, but I also think the blame lies with the corporations and manufacturers. I'm generalizing here - they have shown employees and customers that they are primarily in it for themselves. Cut costs and maximize profits. There's job outsourcing and H1B-visas, etc. That's a downward pressure on both jobs and pay. So what is the average consumer to do? Basically they have only one choice, maximize the value of every dollar they earn and spend. I'm not saying it's desirable, just that it seems to be a natural consequence of our modern society. Let's not equate it to greed. Instead consider this scenario. I have the funds to 1) purchase a new camera body at close to MSRP and put food on my table for a month, or 2) purchase the same camera body at a substantial savings, with that savings purchase an additional lens for that body, and put food on my table for a month. Which should I choose? Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Stan, You are on a slippery slope here. Pentax users are the people who drive old cars and search for good values. We've verified that in prior discussions. We don't need the cashe that comes with Nikon or Canon or Leica. Low prices and good value are keys for us. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > So Tom, are you saying that the only reason you and others use Pentax gear is > to get a lower price? I, and at least a few others, use Pentax because we > prefer their product to Nikon, Canon, and other brands. > > stan > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > >> >> So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased >> prices down our throats. >> >> How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. >> pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
An attractive scene, nice reflections. Paul On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > Thanks, Jack. I was lucky to have some light that evening. > > Thanks, Frank. The reflection was what drew me to the scene. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote: >> I have to say you have a pleasing habit of producing delicate pleasing >> colors. Good resolution and composition as well. >> >> Jack >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Daniel J. Matyola >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:47 AM >> Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 >> >> Comments are appreciated. >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
On 4/18/2012 1:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Nice, serene capture, Dan! I love the willow in the background. There just aren't enough of those in the world. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
Thanks, Jack. I was lucky to have some light that evening. Thanks, Frank. The reflection was what drew me to the scene. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > I have to say you have a pleasing habit of producing delicate pleasing > colors. Good resolution and composition as well. > > Jack > > - Original Message - > From: Daniel J. Matyola > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:47 AM > Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 > > Comments are appreciated. > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Legs
Thanks, Frank! I could have said "leggins" I guess, but they are not really that either. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Not what I was expecting. > > Fun shot! > > cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Daniel J. Matyola" > Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Subject: PESO: Legs > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 > > Comments will be appreciated. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
Always thought malamutes were smarter than the average cat. Cute ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:07 PM Subject: Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. We taught my dog to drink with a straw: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14301920 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM, wrote: Obviously not one of the smarter of the species ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" Subject: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Thank you, Dan! I get a lot of satisfaction out of butterfly shots. They can be a real challenge -- especially when it's warm and sunny like it was today. They were pretty active and nimble. -- Walt On 4/18/2012 6:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Nice collection of images, especially those of the butterflies! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Hi all, I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have taken the edge off the aches. I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
We taught my dog to drink with a straw: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14301920 Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:06 PM, wrote: > Obviously not one of the smarter of the species ! > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" > > Subject: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. > > > >> Warning. Cat video. >> >> http://alturl.com/twh7z >> >> >> >> -- >> Cheers >> >> Brian >> >> ++ >> Brian Walters >> Western Sydney Australia >> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Lyrid meteor shower on April 21st
NASA Science News for April 18, 2012 Astronomers and astronauts are joining forces for an unusual astrophotography experiment during the peak of the Lyrid meteor shower on April 21st. FULL STORY: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/18apr_lyrids/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
I really appreciate that, Walt. And thank you very much Ann, Dan, Don, Paul, Ken and Mark C! I'm quite looking forward to it. On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > Well, it's of interest to me, locale notwithstanding. > > Here's hoping all goes well and you pick up more business than you know what > to do with. > > -- Walt > > > On 4/17/2012 10:25 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: >> >> Postmodern Pinups >> Photography by Bruce Walker >> at the Junction Chiropractic& Wellness Centre >> >> 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) >> May 2 - June 4, 2012 >> >> Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 >> 6:30PM - 10:00PM >> Special Guests - Refreshments >> >> Facebook event: >> https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ >> >> The poster: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg >> >> -- >> -bmw >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Nice collection of images, especially those of the butterflies! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles > (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer > stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the > feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have > taken the edge off the aches. > > I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and > K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I > road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it > was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ > > Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. > > Thanks! > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
5.5 hours? You'd drive that to come here? Yowza! Stan, I would be highly honoured if you came. I think twice before I drive to downtown Toronto, a mere 20 minutes away! :-) On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Congratulations! > > I've been looking for an excuse to spend a day or two in Toronto which is, > after all, only 5.5 hours from my home. We've got several conflicts on the > calendar between now and early June (which is also why I am not going to > Grandfather Mountain) but I will give serious consideration to a quick visit > . . . > > stan > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: >> >> Postmodern Pinups >> Photography by Bruce Walker >> at the Junction Chiropractic & Wellness Centre >> 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) >> May 2 - June 4, 2012 >> >> Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 >> 6:30PM - 10:00PM >> Special Guests - Refreshments >> >> Facebook event: >> https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ >> >> The poster: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Darren Addy wrote: > The Pentax/Ricoh policy *did* raise prices for The > Consumer (ultimately the only one we care about). > I also care about the store that sells me the goods and the company that makes the product. If you focus only on the lowest price, then soon the company will be only selling lower quality goods or they will be out of business which won't be good for your orphaned low price camera and lenses. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: The Seven-Mile Photowalk - 4/18/2012
Hi all, I'm pretty damned tired. I figured after putting in five miles (give-or-take) yesterday without even a muscular twing, a little longer stroll couldn't hurt. Well, I'm here to say it does hurt -- at least in the feet and legs. But, it was a nice day and a little ibuprofen seems to have taken the edge off the aches. I took the same-ol' same-ol' out for a walk today (K20D with A-50/1.7 and K-x with Promaster 70-300)-- off one of my regularly beaten paths down I road I've never walked before. I did get some decent shots, so I figure it was worth the effort. There are 14 in the set, if you care to have a look: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629484721048/ Comments, critiques and suggestions are all eagerly welcomed. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
Nice flower, nice image. That is indeed different from most hibiscus flowers. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > G'day all > > I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by > a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit > unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html > > Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. > > > > -- > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
Hi Frank! It was great finally meeting you last night. And now I have my own official knarF-taken shaky shot on my SD card. I'll never erase it. :-) I think that with you and I being in the same place that constituted about 20% of the entire TOPDML. The other 80% that I can think of is Dave, Adam Maas, and Fernando Terrazzino (though he hasn't been heard from since last Oct.). Anyone else? When you come to my show you'll finally also see The Junction, and Contact will be on so there will be a number of other actually great galleries to check out. Cheers! On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: > Dave? You there? > > I know I will be. Who else is on this list from TO these days? TOPDML ain't > what it used to be. > > Oh yeah, Congrats, Bruce. Might see ya tonight! > > cheers, > frank > > "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- > Christopher Hitchens > > --- Original Message --- > > From: Bruce Walker > Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 > To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List > Subject: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups > > This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: > > Postmodern Pinups > Photography by Bruce Walker > at the Junction Chiropractic & Wellness Centre > 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) > May 2 - June 4, 2012 > > Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 > 6:30PM - 10:00PM > Special Guests - Refreshments > > Facebook event: > https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ > > The poster: > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 10:48 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-17 21:48 Walt Gilbert wrote Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ i liked the grouping of lickable "red" photos in the middle, and the grass/rushes in sideways light (though the stump seems a little awkward in the frame); flower photos up front, well the first is an nice composition but the colors are over the top for me (just not my cup o tea) on the iris you made good exposure and focus choices, but the tight crop and the background detract a little for me; perhaps it is the name, but to me iris are a "mini-muse" (after i let go of all who came before — Van Gogh, O'Keefe…); what i mean is i keep shooting them even when i think i've exhausted the subject in order to learn more and discover what i had not seen before; i especially like curly dried up iris petals (lilies too) Thanks, Steve! I never dwell too long over flowers. I tend to take a few quick snaps if the light seems to be hitting them nicely, but I never really do a study of the flower itself. I should probably devote more effort to them than I do, but I tend to get restless when I hover over any subject for very long. Thanks for the input! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exhibit: Postmodern Pinups
Thanks very much, Igor. I muchly appreciate that! On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > Bruce, > > That looks like a great exhibit! I wish it was closer. > > One of the communities whose interest overlaps with the vintage styles > is the swing dancers (Lindy Hop, Balboa, Charleston). > I've previously met a few swing dancers from Toronto, but don't know > them closely. So, I sent an e-mail to TSDS and a couple more groups - > as they would probably enjoy this exhibit. > > Have fun! > > Igor > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:25 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> This may be mainly of interest to Toronto PDMLers, but fwiw: >> >> Postmodern Pinups >> Photography by Bruce Walker >> at the Junction Chiropractic & Wellness Centre >> 3093 Dundas St West (just west of Quebec Ave.) >> May 2 - June 4, 2012 >> >> Opening Reception Wednesday May 9 >> 6:30PM - 10:00PM >> Special Guests - Refreshments >> >> Facebook event: >> https://www.facebook.com/events/408602762486042/ >> >> The poster: >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2254722/JunctionChiroPoster-960px.jpg >> >> -- >> -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
So Tom, are you saying that the only reason you and others use Pentax gear is to get a lower price? I, and at least a few others, use Pentax because we prefer their product to Nikon, Canon, and other brands. stan On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Tom C wrote: > > So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased > prices down our throats. > > How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. > pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 9:06 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Walt Gilbert wrote: Thanks, Dave! I reckon I'm a-fixin' to head out on another excursion. So, I may have another GESO later this afternoon, depending on Lady Luck's disposition today. We live about a mile from the towns reservoir which has several trails around it. Weather is getting better and i see and hear some birds etc now, so a walk around that is in order. Dave I went back out there today, but I've just about concluded that I'm going to need a 500mm f/4 to really get good shots of the waterfowl. They're all there -- but they seem to know the limits of a 300mm zoom and pose accordingly. -- Walt -- Walt On 4/18/2012 9:00 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Another great set, we seem to be about 3 weeks behind you up here, so i'm just waiting.:-) Dave On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM, Walt Gilbertwrote: Hi all, It's been over a week since I went out on a photowalk, so I finally got off my dead ass and took the cameras out today. I suppose I got some decent shots, but I missed more than I caught. I did stumble upon a great spot for morning golden hour opportunities, though. Ten photos in all. The shot of the robin carrying away the worm is a project I intend to return to until I get the rendering right. Anyway -- same as usual: K20D and K-x, A-50/1.7 and Promaster 70-300/4-5.6 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/sets/72157629842772567/ Comments, critiques and suggestions welcome as always. Thanks! -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: Photowalk - 4/17/12
On 4/18/2012 10:55 AM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-04-18 7:16 Walt Gilbert wrote The spot I stumbled on is one I've known about forever -- since I was a child, in fact -- but it'd been so long since I'd been out there that I never really thought of it as a good location. We always just thought of it as a place to catch fish from the spillway off the watershed as kids. your personal history with the location adds something to the set for me — makes me look for your "child's eye" in the photos The surroundings haven't changed much since then. The only thing that's really changed is that I actually notice it now, where I took it all for granted when I was a child. Youth is indeed wasted on the young. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Apr 18, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Tom C wrote: > > I've never paid MSRP. MSRP has always been artificially high so that > anything below that looks like a discount. > > In fact if Pentax had demanded MSRP for their products, my association > with Pentax would have been over at the time I was choosing between a > PZ-1p and a Nikon 8008s. > > I specifically DON'T buy expensive items in the local camera store > BECAUSE they attempt to sell it at MSRP or close to it. Yeah, go ahead > and knock $50 or a $100 off MSRP. What are they taking me for, a fool? Just to point out that there is another side to the story, I have paid MSRP (minus a small "good customer" discount") for all of the camera bodies I bought from the PZ-1p (3) through the MZ-S, (2) and *ist-D (2). After that the local guy could no longer get goods from Pentax. I paid MSRP because I wanted a place to go and touch and feel the merchandise, I wanted a place to take care of my photo processing (and then later my scanning), I wanted Mitch to stay in business, and it was worth a few hundred bucks "extra" on my purchases to help keep him in business. I also don't shop Wal-Mart. I think the drive to the cheapest possible price on everything is a reflection of the unmitigated greed that consumes such a large portion of the population. We want to have all of the "stuff" that we can get, and rather than prioritizing and choosing what luxuries we will have that we can afford at a reasonable price, we go for cheap low-quality stuff just to have it. Pentax has been extraordinary in providing high quality goods at low prices; at some point the only rational options for them are to lower quality or raise prices; I am comfortable with the latter. It probably means I will only buy one K-3 rather than my preferred two, but I can deal with that. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 13:45 John Celio wrote On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, wrote: but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all It was a joke. Didn't the winky emoticon make that clear? ;) ;) ;) ah, ok; it didn't compute as a joke, either (which i recognize is a special form of joke); smileys are almost always *not* clear ;?> I don't own a smartphone because I can't afford the phones nor the calling& data plans. Plus, I wouldn't want to pay whatever it costs to use one outside of one's home country on top of all that. i don't doubt you've done your math on this; here's mine: the phone "cost" is negligible (my iPhone 4 was $100 in Feb 2011, but i sold old my two-year-old iPhone 3G to Amazon for $140), and my plan is $20/month over what my old non-smartphone cost; for me, that's a better value proposition than paying for something like cable TV (which i don't), but i sympathize with the desire to minimize monthly charges (my thermostat is set to 62 day, 57 night) note that the frugal geek can get a cheap used smartphone with a pay-per-use SIM (swapping when going abroad) and without a data plan, then still do geotagging (and web browsing, email, google voice, skype, etc. when in wifi range) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
Great looking shot, Dave On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > G'day all > > I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by > a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit > unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html > > Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. > > > > -- > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 14:48 alban bernard wrote --- On Wed, 4/18/12, steve harley wrote: it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all Note that even though cellular data are not required for location services it may help a bit with A-GPS and network triangulation techniques provided by most modern phones to get a more accurate position in weak signal areas (e.g. cities with a lot of high buildings, ...). Clearly, each tool has its most useful uses. i was using the "charged to your data plan" definition of "data"; triangulation of cell towers (as well as of local wifi signals) helps speed acquisition because the GPS in phones is not very fast; as i understand it, the triangulation is not charged to your data plan; if any data is transferred (versus the phone just looking up tower ids in a cached table), i don't think it is internet data A smartphone is not unwieldy, especially if you already carry one all the time. a phone is not unwieldy to carry, but one could argue the O-GPS1 is more much more wieldy in the mechanics of geotagging -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Photo parties for kids?
One thing I've done a couple of times, which worked out very well, was what I call a portrait party, where you get a group of friends together, and do portrait sessions with each of them. It ends up with a lot less down time when nobody is being photographed, set up time is shared among four or five people, and the net result is that I can charge a lot less per person. One big advantage of it is that it is a lot of fun, people have their friends there, and you get a lot more "honestly happy smiles" rather than the forced "smile for the camera" grimaces. I've had a few people ask me about photographing kids lately. I've only photographed kids a couple of times, just enough to understand how much more difficult it can be. The first problem is that you only have a few minutes before their good mood is used up. What follows is a very blue sky idea, not worked out at all, but I think it has promise, and I'd love feedback from people with more experience on the subject than I. I wonder how it would work to do a portrait party for kids. Have snacks, toys, games etc for the kids that aren't in front of the camera. Do everything possible to make it a fun afternoon, with the photography being part of the fun. Possibly even having costumes and props to get kids hamming it up, and maybe even challenge kids off camera to make the kids on camera smile and laugh. It's quite possible that since each kid would be in front of the camera for just a short period of time, I could likely even do one of these for something like 8-12 kids, and not have to charge lots of money per kid. Thoughts? Suggestions? Simply pointing out that I'm completely out of my skull crazy? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Norfolk Island Hibiscus
G'day all I've been reprocessing a lot of wildflower photos for a project being run by a non-profit I'm involved with. I like the colour in this one - a bit unusual for a Hibiscus-type plant: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/IMGP2103-peso.html Taken with the *ist DS and Tamron 90 mm macro. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> From: Darren Addy > > The most disingenuous statement Mr. Bunnell makes is that Pentax "did > not raise prices" (ostensibly because, by knocking off the discounts > any additional profits go to the camera store and not Pentax). That's > crazy talk. The Pentax/Ricoh policy *did* raise prices for The > Consumer (ultimately the only one we care about). It's either pure spin as someone else wrote and/or it demonstrates being out of touch with the consumer and/or it's just plain callousness. Makes one wonder what % of his income Mr. Bunnell pays for his Pentax gear. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: NO Dough
Agreed. Normally the phrase is "half-baked'. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Cotty wrote: > On 17/4/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>What were you planning to bake? > > I think I've been on this email list since about 1998 or so and to this > date I have never seen this question asked before. > > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > -- http://www.cottysnaps.com > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear
To say Mark would be to damn with faint praise. On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > >> I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the >> correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size. > > My love life is entirely dependent on this trait. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: NO Dough
On 17/4/12, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: >What were you planning to bake? I think I've been on this email list since about 1998 or so and to this date I have never seen this question asked before. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
--- On Wed, 4/18/12, steve harley wrote: > it's worth noting that the location services that tag > a photo do not use cellular data at all Note that even though cellular data are not required for location services it may help a bit with A-GPS and network triangulation techniques provided by most modern phones to get a more accurate position in weak signal areas (e.g. cities with a lot of high buildings, ...). Clearly, each tool has its most useful uses. A smartphone is not unwieldy, especially if you already carry one all the time. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Im glad I already purchased all the PENTAX lenses I will ever need on the used market ( read as cheap compared to new prices on new lenses ). They are mostly FF primes that Pentax doesnt even make new anymore anyway. - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Jack Davis Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 4:23 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... The price differential between Nikon/Canon and Pentax should evolve to previous levels in a reasonably short [period of time. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Tom C To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... > James King wrote: >>> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the- u >> >>Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: >>http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explaine d.aspx/ > > > Mark Roberts wrote: > > Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers > will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon > & Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lady of the Lake
Oh yeah: * "[Arthur explains his kingship to a fiercely democratic peasant couple.]" * *King Arthur*: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. "That" is why I am your king! * *Dennis*: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds, distributing swords, is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Lady of the Lake
The reflection makes it. Nice photo. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches
The light is lovely. So are the photos. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Tim Bray Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Yawn, more floral cliches http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/-big/RUNE4799.jpg.html But captured in a surprising place: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/04/17/California-Creek -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Legs
Not what I was expecting. Fun shot! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: PESO: Legs http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 Comments will be appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
The price differential between Nikon/Canon and Pentax should evolve to previous levels in a reasonably short [period of time. Jack :-) - Original Message - From: Tom C To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 12:51 PM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... > James King wrote: >>> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u >> >>Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a >>similar move: >>http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ > > > Mark Roberts wrote: > > Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers > will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon > & Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Lady of the Lake
I have to say you have a pleasing habit of producing delicate pleasing colors. Good resolution and composition as well. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:47 AM Subject: PESO: Lady of the Lake http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
The most disingenuous statement Mr. Bunnell makes is that Pentax "did not raise prices" (ostensibly because, by knocking off the discounts any additional profits go to the camera store and not Pentax). That's crazy talk. The Pentax/Ricoh policy *did* raise prices for The Consumer (ultimately the only one we care about). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> James King wrote: >>> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u >> >>Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a >>similar move: >>http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ > > > Mark Roberts wrote: > > Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers > will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon > & Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). So basically all the camera companies will be jamming their increased prices down our throats. How many people will be willing to pay the premium for a Pentax vs. pay the premium for a Nikon or Canon? I wonder if this is not an industry wide effort to stave off the ongoing price drop as technology becomes less expensive to manufacture, as well as, to a degree, slow the downward price spiral. Tom C. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM, wrote: > but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone > only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never > paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data > plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not > use > cellular data at all It was a joke. Didn't the winky emoticon make that clear? ;) ;) ;) I don't own a smartphone because I can't afford the phones nor the calling & data plans. Plus, I wouldn't want to pay whatever it costs to use one outside of one's home country on top of all that. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> From: steve harley >> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u >> > > full of unsupported claims about "benefits" > > quaint and romantic as the idea is (or isn't, when it's Walmart), a physical > retail store is just a lousy proposition if it has to cost a few hundred > dollars to have a chance to handle a product for a few minutes before buying > it; when will someone realize this and invent something better? for that kind > of margin they could send me a loaner lens for a week for free, and swap it > for > a brand new one if i liked it > > so Pentax forces consumers to pay more (another way to say it since Bunnell > claims prices haven't increased) ? that is not going to grow the tiny number > of > really good camera stores; i think this is more about getting into some giant > chain in order to generate sales to less knowledgeable buyers; the clerks at > whatever chain this turns out to be will be underpaid non-experts who will > spout crap when questioned > > any true "benefit" to enthusiasts and pros will be elusive; this is about > marketing, not serving the customer; Bunnell is just doing spin control I agree. I don't find there to be a benefit, tangible or intangible, to purchasing in a local camera store. Certainly not worth a 20% or higher price differential. Of course that differential could be going away according to the strategy. Would I like to see the camera stores stick around? Yes. Do I believe my supporting them by paying my hard earned cash is going to make the difference? No, it's such a small percentage of the market, and like them my income and cash flow are important. We had a local guitar store in business for decades, Old Boise Guitar. I did purchase quite a bit of my son's instruments and gear there, hoping that they could keep going. The thing is, there they really did provide a service. Being able to touch and play the instrument, as well as being very knowledgeable. They went out of business two years ago. Now there's only Guitar Center and the junky music stores. The difference also is that a musical instrument is potentially a life time purchase. A DSLR is really 2 - 3 years at best. Since most camera buyers do not go to the dedicated camera stores to make purchases, getting them into big box's, warehouse clubs, Target's, Walmart's would seem a logical course of action. I don't see how the relationship with the smaller camera stores mentioned in the blog will make much of a difference. In fact I bet a significant portion of their sales, if not a majority, is actually done online vs. walk-in. I personally think Pentax is fighting a losing battle and the best they can really hope for is to maintain the status quo. The only thing they can do that makes sense is to sell more cameras and lenses. To do that, the product should be where the consumer is most likely going to be, in the major chains right next to the Nikon's and Canon's. If they don't do that, everything else mentioned in the blog is pointless. At the same time, raising prices is not likely to generate more sales. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of > Bipin Gupta > > In India it is mandatory by law that every item or product for sale > carry an MRP (maximum retail price) on the carton as well as the item > inside. However the TV channels keep educating people on their rights > saying, "you do not have to pay MRP - exercise your right". > For example a 500 ml bottle of Listerine has an MRP of INR 150. But the > supermarkets will be selling it for INR 135. Even my local Medical shop > will give a discount of 5 to 10% on the MRP. > Ricoh - Pentax is only harming themselves by forcing On-line as well as > B&M Stores to sell at MSRP. In fact this is Illegal under the > Restrictive Trade Practices Act in India. > Sad to say there are NO Stores or Dealers for Pentax DSLRs in any City, > repeat any city or Metro in India. Pentax do not have even an Office or > a Service Center in India. In fact the Canikons rule the roost here > with DSLR sales far exceeding that of their P&S cameras. > Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. > well, it's such a tiny market. Only about - what - 1.18 billion people? Hardly worth the effort really. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 13:19 Mark Roberts wrote I have a kind of tangiental GPS question: Is there any EXIF-editing software that will allow me to *manually* add GPS location data (preferably in UTM format) to my photos? I have a notebook full of data about the locations of many of my GFM photos. at a minimum you could put that location info into data "track files" that exiftool could apply; it supports several formats, but i don't know offhand which would be easiest to construc i think you could probably find a tool to batch convert UTM to whatever -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Apr 18, 2012, at 12:14 PM, steve harley wrote: > on 2012-04-18 11:15 John Celio wrote >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM, wrote: >>> A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag >>> photo later at home. >> >> The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I >> do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage >> fees. ;) > > i think the O-GPS1 is great for those that need it; you don't have to > remember to take a phone snappy, and you get some unique features like > star-tracking; it might even work better in some situations (though i get > good GPS locks with my phone in the backcountry) > > but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone > only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've > never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a > reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a > photo do not use cellular data at all If your goal is simply to geotag locations, you should be able to pick up a used smartphone, something like my first generation droid, very cheaply, if not for free. What I used to do is use the camera in my droid specifically for that purpose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157622699921737/ There is the theory that any pictures that I actually want to geotag that I took with the pentax, I'll be able to go back and resolve them with the droid photos. That seems to work about as well as the theory that all of these pictures that I bracketed my exposure on, I'll go back and apply HDR software on to bring out important details in the highlights and shadows. What I find ultimately frustrating is when I'm looking through the photos I took with my droid to geotag and realize that one would be a dynamite photo, if the image quality wasn't pure shite. I bought the O-GPS1 specifically for the astrotracer functionality, however, I find it quite handy for when I want to geotag something. One way that I think it could prove very handy is in giving directions to someplace. You can take photos of specific landmarks, link to the photos in the directions, and people would also be able to look on a map based on the photo. I took this set because I thought the organizers of a weekly dance might find them handy for people looking for the event the first time: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629175036835/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On 2012-04-18 12:48, Jack Davis wrote: I suppose there is the hope that time will soften the sting of higher prices (especially to those largely upset with the fates for having waited too long before buying) when a leveling has been in place for awhile. They can hope that if they want, but that's not how it's going to play out in my house. Their prices were already just within the limits of what I was willing to pay. Pushing them up just means there's literally /no/ way I'll be buying them new. And all to benefit some brick-and-mortar stores that aren't within hundreds of miles of my home, according to Ned. -- Doug "Lefty" Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook "NutDriver Racing" Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
I have a kind of tangiental GPS question: Is there any EXIF-editing software that will allow me to *manually* add GPS location data (preferably in UTM format) to my photos? I have a notebook full of data about the locations of many of my GFM photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
on 2012-04-18 11:15 John Celio wrote On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM, wrote: A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag photo later at home. The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage fees. ;) i think the O-GPS1 is great for those that need it; you don't have to remember to take a phone snappy, and you get some unique features like star-tracking; it might even work better in some situations (though i get good GPS locks with my phone in the backcountry) but the second sentence above does not compute unless you were to buy a phone only to use its GPS to tag photos taken with a Pentax camera; while i've never paid an overage fee in three years using an iPhone (and i'm on a reduced data plan), it's worth noting that the location services that tag a photo do not use cellular data at all -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Lady of the Lake
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15455621 Comments are appreciated. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mini GESO - Occupy Toronto Hits the Road
Solidarity takes on a whole new meaning! :-) Thanks to everyone who looked and commented. Cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms Sent: April 18, 2012 4/18/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Mini GESO - Occupy Toronto Hits the Road From: >> Unbelievably there were about 5 guys inside that tiny contrivance when I >> was talking to them. > > Theyt must be REALLY close friends. They are now! 8-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Hand in Hand
Thanks, Walt! cheers, frank "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert Sent: April 17, 2012 4/17/12 To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" Subject: Re: PESO - Hand in Hand I like it, Frank. Rules be damned. Verily I dig the high-contrast rendering, too. -- Walt On 4/13/2012 9:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: > I broke one of the Rules of Street Photography: "No photos of couples > walking away from you holding hands." > > But, I really liked the light and the overall composition and I tried > a very different rendering (due to that light): > > http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/04/hand-in-hand.html > > Hope you like. Comments welcome. > > cheers, > frank > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
James King wrote: >Christine Nielsen wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:40:14 -0700 > >> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u > >Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a >similar move: >http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Interesting to read that thread. I expect all the photo manufacturers will have similar policies by the end of theis year (sounds like Nikon & Canon already do and Pentax is a little late to the game). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Legs
Thanks, Walt, Brian and David! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote: > On 4/17/2012 8:07 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15557836 >> >> Comments will be appreciated. >> >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> > Well, I have to admit I had my hopes up for some Derbyesque street > photography. But, still, it's an interesting shot. If I were to change > anything about it, I'd do a slightly tighter crop to get the $12 item out of > the foreground. > > Aside from that, based on the apparel, I'd probably spend a lot of time > loitering at that storefront -- at least until they told me to beat it. > > -- Walt > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Necessary Advice?
I'm not sure what kind of lawsuit could result from spilling mouthwash. Now, dropping a bottle of beer or a bottle of whisky because I wasn't holding on properly, that I could see happening. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > Sadly, I've done that. To remind people is a nice gesture. > Hopefully, there wasn't a really big lawsuit involved. > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Daniel J. Matyola > wrote: >> Neither did I. >> Dan Matyola >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:49 PM, jn289 wrote: >>> Dan, I do not know what to make of this one.. ? >>> >>> >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15539933 Comments are welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > Steve Desjardins > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
In India it is mandatory by law that every item or product for sale carry an MRP (maximum retail price) on the carton as well as the item inside. However the TV channels keep educating people on their rights saying, "you do not have to pay MRP - exercise your right". For example a 500 ml bottle of Listerine has an MRP of INR 150. But the supermarkets will be selling it for INR 135. Even my local Medical shop will give a discount of 5 to 10% on the MRP. Ricoh - Pentax is only harming themselves by forcing On-line as well as B&M Stores to sell at MSRP. In fact this is Illegal under the Restrictive Trade Practices Act in India. Sad to say there are NO Stores or Dealers for Pentax DSLRs in any City, repeat any city or Metro in India. Pentax do not have even an Office or a Service Center in India. In fact the Canikons rule the roost here with DSLR sales far exceeding that of their P&S cameras. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink.
Obviously not one of the smarter of the species ! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" Subject: OT - Well, that's one way to get a drink. Warning. Cat video. http://alturl.com/twh7z -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: $13 000 worth of camera gear
On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:19 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: > I was merely referring to the practical nature of women to use the > correct tool for a particular job without prejudice as to its size. My love life is entirely dependent on this trait. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
This is like "Restrictive Trade Practices" worth the notice of the Commerce Dept. Just that Mr. Bunnell has used lots of words - cotton wooling in British slang - to detract from the main point. Hope Ricoh - Pentax sees sense. Regards. Bipin - from a far away enchanting land. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
It would look much better if it weren’t on the horribly-designed ad-laden photo.net page. Not seeb when I bring that image up. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Tim Bray" Subject: Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead That is very striking. It would look much better if it weren’t on the horribly-designed ad-laden photo.net page. -T On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tom C wrote: I took a little Sunday excursion to Stanley, about 120 miles north. Left at 3:45 AM and arrived shortly after 6:00 AM. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533&size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: > I got my 16-50 from BuyDig.com back in 2008 and it came with a U.S. warranty. > > AND it was "only" $649.00. > > Current list is, what, about 2 1/2 times that? It's not going to sell at > that price. Not to me. Dave > > -Charles > > -- > Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com > Minneapolis, MN > http://charles.robinsontwins.org > http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Found Off Road Dead
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15551533&size=lg >> > Very cool shot - snow in the background? > > MCC > Thanks Mark. Yep snow. Stanley, ID (along with Frasier, CO) is often the cold spot in the continental US. Frozen mix predicted for Stanley most days this week. Thanks Walt, Ann, Steve, JC, Frank, Ken, Jack, John, Tim, Brian, David, Charles. I guess getting there early was a good thing. I personally wished for about 10% more space around the main subject. Maybe I couldn't frame that way on the spot, but I guess it works. Tom -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How unwieldy is the O-GPS1 on the K-5?
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:47 AM, wrote: > A good alternative is to use smartphone GPS tracking capabilities to tag > photo later at home. The downside, of course, is that you have to own a smartphone, which I do not. This device is an awful lot cheaper and doesn't charge overage fees. ;) That aside, my O-GPS1 should be here today or tomorrow. I'm looking forward to trying out its astrophotography feature in the near future. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
Christine Nielsen wrote on Wed, 18 Apr 2012 06:40:14 -0700 > http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u Seems like Pentax is not alone in doing this. Nikon has already made a similar move: http://nikonrumors.com/2011/10/14/the-new-nikon-us-pricing-policy-explained.aspx/ Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing...
I suppose there is the hope that time will soften the sting of higher prices (especially to those largely upset with the fates for having waited too long before buying) when a leveling has been in place for awhile. Jack - Original Message - From: Tom C To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: Mr. Bunnell on lens pricing... >> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Christine Nielsen >> wrote: >>> http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/lens-prices-and-our-channel-strategy-in-the-u > Correct subject line this time (crap)... And this statement: "To clarify, we have not "raised" the prices on any lenses." is a bit disingenuous. If the price the end consumer must pay for a given product is higher than before, than explain to the consumer, how the price has not been raised. I understand that he's talking about price enforcement vs. price raising, but the net effect is price raising. Again... does he expect to sell more product at a higher price than at a lower price? "Any additional margin will go to the dealers not Pentax.” So this means consumers will pay more, dealers will sell less, and Pentax will not see any benefit even when their products sell for a higher retail price. Sounds like a lose-tie-lose proposition to me. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
