RE: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Jeffery Smith
 
 It's called Heinz-57 Brown Sauce. I don't use condiments named Brown
 Sauce.
 

we have red sauce and white sauce too. You can't say we're not a nation of
gourmets.

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Re: GESO art nudes, nsfw

2012-06-01 Thread William Robb

On 31/05/2012 2:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



BW is your friend.

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread William Robb

On 31/05/2012 7:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

...but you didn't hear it from me.

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF


I get Front Focus now..
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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
You know I just hope this FF surprise has an aperture simulator, because 
there will sure as heck be a shortage of Modern FF lenses in September.


On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:

...but you didn't hear it from me.

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF

I can hardly contain myself!!

tan. :-)

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Re: GESO art nudes, nsfw

2012-06-01 Thread Bulent Celasun
Perhaps you should also consider some detail studies (body parts with
an abstract sense).

Congratulations on you both, by the way.

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 On 31/05/2012 2:05 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread David Mann
On Jun 1, 2012, at 6:01 PM, Bob W wrote:

 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Jeffery Smith
 
 It's called Heinz-57 Brown Sauce. I don't use condiments named Brown
 Sauce.
 
 
 we have red sauce and white sauce too. You can't say we're not a nation of
 gourmets.

Has anyone made a blue sauce?  It'd go well for the jubilee...

I remember being in the UK for the golden jubilee.  Hard to believe it's been 
10 years already.  On Sunday we were cleaning out the garage and came across 
all my old stuff from that trip.  I have a map of Oxford that's been scrawled 
on by The Cotty Himself.  Bidding starts at...

Dave


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Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen
I did a bit of research on how to get it to boot in 64 bit mode and found this 
link, but haven't tried it yet:
http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-64bit.html

On May 31, 2012, at 7:03 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 Charles,
 
 How much RAM do you have? and which version of the OS?
 
 LR4 is a 64bit implementation. It runs best on Lion, and runs best on
 Snow Leopard when you have Snow Leopard set to boot up with the 64-bit
 kernel (it's set to the 32bit kernel by default).
 
 4G is enough RAM as long as most other stuff isn't running. I have
 tested it on a MacBook Air running Lion, but not with an 80,000 image
 catalog yet.
 
 As reality check, I timed startup of LR4.1 on my MacBook Pro 13
 system (1 year old, 2.4 Core Duo 2, 8G RAM, Lion, data on the external
 firewire 800 drive, catalog on the internal). From double click to
 ready to edit a new directory of raw files was 92 seconds.
 
 The MBA did the same startup with a 5000 image catalog and external
 drive in about 30 seconds. More important, it runs smoothly on both
 systems after startup.
 
 Your system is an older generation than my MacBook Pro 13, 2.5-3
 minutes for startup is likely fine. Time to throw money at the
 problem...
 
 I'm planning to upgrade on the next round of MacBook Pro systems too.
 
 G
 
 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:52 AM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 On May 30, 2012, at 21:14, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 
 Once Lr completes this operation, you have a fresh catalog and a
 freshly generated set of previews which are all well-formed. This will
 net the best possible performance, presuming the rest of the system is
 up to snuff.
 
 
 Sadly, something else is out of whack, because the new catalog takes just as 
 long (2.5-3 minutes) to load as the original one.
 
 I've got about 100 gig free on a 7200rpm drive in my 3.5-year-old Macbook 
 with 4GB of RAM.
 
 Sometime this year, the next step is going to be throw hardware at the 
 problem but not yet, unfortunately.
 
  -Charles
 
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Friday unusual WTB request

2012-06-01 Thread Boris Liberman

The mightily wise and infinitely literate English speakers of PDML :-).

My daughter is in need of The Essential English (for foreign students) 
book by C.E. Eckersley. If you have such a book and you don't really 
use/need it, I would gladly buy/borrow if from you. In fact, I prefer to 
buy as she will likely need this book for several years to come. My 
understanding that it is 4 volumes and I would need all of them, naturally.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/6/12, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed:

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF

Insomnia cure while my hat seasons :)

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jun 1, 2012, at 2:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 You know I just hope this FF surprise has an aperture simulator, because 
 there will sure as heck be a shortage of Modern FF lenses in September.
 

Not to worry, I suspect there will be a shortage of FF cameras as well. If  you 
recall, Mark passed along a similar rumor from an unimpeachable source five 
years or so ago. Those unimpeachable Pentax sources are frequently confused.
Paul


 On 5/31/2012 9:38 PM, Tanya Love wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.
 
 Let me say two things only:
 
 1. September
 2. FF
 
 I can hardly contain myself!!
 
 tan. :-)
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/6/12, Tanya Love, discombobulated, unleashed:

Lol! Well maybe Cotty will have to get his tools out and start making
some mutant Canon lenses so he can switch back to Pentax in September!

I only get my tools out for Larry.

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Re: Friday unusual WTB request

2012-06-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-06-01 5:43, Boris Liberman wrote:


My daughter is in need of The Essential English (for foreign students)
book by C.E. Eckersley. If you have such a book and you don't really
use/need it, I would gladly buy/borrow if from you. In fact, I prefer to
buy as she will likely need this book for several years to come. My
understanding that it is 4 volumes and I would need all of them, naturally.


I just took a look at Barnes  Noble.  I couldn't find an exact match 
for that title and author.  It appears that the closest match I could 
find is out of print, at least in the US.  All I could find was a 
reference to used copies ranging in price from US$7 to almost US$ 280.


http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/essential-english-eckersley/1003695185?ean=9780582520189

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Re: How to photograph the transit of Venus?

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You can always watch the transit here:

June 5: Venus Crosses the Sun

On next Tuesday, June 5, from noon to almost 7 pm HST, Venus will
cross the Sun for the last transit until the year 2117. It's the final
time anyone alive today will have a chance to see this rare
astronomical event and the Island of Hawai'i is one of the best places
on Earth to view it. Keck Observatory is hosting a complete live
webcast of the event from the Keck I Telescope control room on the
summit of Mauna Kea. Watch the webcast at
http://keckobservatory.org/news/venus_transit_live_keck_observatory.

Meanwhile, we'll also be setting up solar telescopes and showing the
webcast on a large screen at our headquarters in the more temperate
and accessible Waimea-Kamuela. So wherever you are, you can be part of
the historic Transit of Venus. This and other locations islandwide for
safely viewing the transit can be found at the Mauna Kea Visitor
Information Station website.
Two Big Astrophysics Prizes Announced

Two major astronomy prizes were announced this week going to
scientists affiliated with Keck Observatory for their discoveries of
objects beyond the orbit of Neptune – in what’s called the Kuiper
Belt. UCLA’s David Jewitt and Jane Luu of MIT’s Lincoln Laboratories,
have been awarded the prestigious Shaw Prize.

The same scientists, along with Caltech’s Mike Brown, were also
awarded the Kavli Prize for Astrophysics for that same work on the
nature of our solar system.

Mike Brown and David Jewitt have given outstanding talks for the Keck
Observatory in recent years. Their presentations are archived on our
website.


MARK YOUR CALENDAR: 7:00 pm, June 7, 2012
Keck Astronomy Talk: Transits of Venus from Earth, Jupiter  Saturn:
Past, Present  Future.
By Dr. Jay Pasachoff, Williams College
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On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 29 May 2012 14:32, John Celio neo.venator.com+p...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to try photographing the transit of Venus across the sun on
 June 5th, but I've never tried shooting the sun before. Any of you
 guys have tips you can share? Is there a special filter I should use,
 or would a polarizer or ND filter be sufficient? I'm planning on using
 my K 500mm f4.5, so I'll probably need to special order a large enough
 filter, and I'll need to do that soon.

 Thanks,
 John

 P.S.: Hey Aussie PDMLers, I loved your country! Just got home last
 Friday. I hope I get to go back to Australia soon, especially to see
 the outback and more of Tasmania.

 John,

 ND filters aren't enough (unless you stack a bunch of them). I've
 bought a solar filter from these guys for my own plan to photograph
 the transit:

 http://stores.ebay.com/Seymour-Solar-Filters

 It was listed as Solar - Sun Filter Sheets 9X12 for Telescopes,
 Finder and cost me $17. It lets through 0.001% of the light reaching
 it.

 I received it earlier this week but haven't had time to fashion a
 filter from the sheet. I plan to make a filter for my Tokina 400m
 f/5.6 and another for my Sigma CAT 600mm f/8.

 Filters for Solar observing/photography MUST ALWAYS BE ON THE
 FRONT-MOST ELEMENT. The situation is so dangerous that for larger
 reflecting telescopes (wider than 8) the filter is actually just a
 hole in the telescope lid (with solar filter material covering the
 hole, of course) because otherwise the concentrated and focused rays
 of the Sun (even heavily filtered) could damage the secondary mirror.
 In a standard lens, placing the filter in the rear filter tray would
 probably damage said filter after a few minutes of observing the Sun.

 Now for fun stuff: How long does your lens have to be? If using an
 APS-C camera, I'd recommend 1000mm. The Sun's angular diameter is
 ~31.5 arcmin (arc minutes) and it moves across the sky at a rate of
 ~15 arcmin/min. A 1000mm lens will give you a 1.3 degree (78 arcmin)
 horizontal FoV, so enough to fit ~2.5 Suns. If you orientate your
 camera such that the Sun moves horizontally across your frame, you
 should have the entire solar disc in your frame for ~3 mins (assuming
 you're not using a motorised mount). If you're using a motorised
 mount, then use a 1600mm lens and have the Sun practically fill your
 frame (vertically).

 As you're using a 500mm lens, I would suggest adding at least a 1.4x
 teleconverter, or ideally a good 2x TC. Venus is going to be ~58
 arcsec in diameter, so some 32.5 times smaller than the Sun. Using a
 1000mm lens on a K-5 you get 1.05 pixels/arcsec, so the size of Venus
 on your photograph will be ~60 pixels.

 I recommend this site for practically all information regarding the
 transit, including your local times of visibility:

 http://www.transitofvenus.org

 If you have an observatory or astronomy club near by, check to see if
 they're organising an event for the occasion. If they are I'd
 recommend going to take a look through a powerful telescope, even if
 you take your gear along and 

Re: Friday unusual WTB request

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Walters

Boris

I can't help directly but Abe Books (UK) lists Books 1, 2 and 3 at a  
reasonable price.


I've used Abe Books and have found them reliable.


http://www.abebooks.co.uk/book-search/title/essential-english-for-foreign-students/author/c-e-eckersley/sortby/3/



Cheers

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Quoting Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com:


The mightily wise and infinitely literate English speakers of PDML :-).

My daughter is in need of The Essential English (for foreign  
students) book by C.E. Eckersley. If you have such a book and you  
don't really use/need it, I would gladly buy/borrow if from you. In  
fact, I prefer to buy as she will likely need this book for several  
years to come. My understanding that it is 4 volumes and I would  
need all of them, naturally.


Thanks in advance.

Boris




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Re: PESO: Bug on a milkweed flower

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/55001392@N08/7309647348/in/photostream/lightbox/





Very nice. Is the flower some sort of Hoya?



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Re: PESO - Happy Time

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Walters


Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

One of my favourite restaurant names and signage. The light was  
quite harsh that day so I opted for a high-key look:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/happy-time.html?m=0

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.




I really like the way you've processed this.  It really suits the subject.



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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread John Sessoms

On another note, wasn't Pentax supposed announce something on June 1st?

Well, it's June 1st.

Anybody know what they announced?

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Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:41, Larry Colen wrote:

 I did a bit of research on how to get it to boot in 64 bit mode and found 
 this link, but haven't tried it yet:
 http://macperformanceguide.com/SnowLeopard-64bit.html
 

My Macbook3,1 WILL NOT boot in 64-bit mode no matter what I try.  It seems I'm 
not alone.

(I did succeed in getting it to lock up once, though.  With a McAfee-encrypted 
drive, that meant driving 20 miles to the other office to grab the rescue boot 
USB stick and get things sorted again.  Yikes).

I'm going to let it be for now and, as Godfrey stated, throw money at the 
problem later.

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread John Sessoms
If the camera actually is produced, I think there should be a major 
gathering of Pentaxians at GFM in 2013 where Cotty can be served his 
banquet in grand style.


From: Tanya Love


Well, Cotty is kind of a legend around these parts! (don't tell him I said that 
tho,
we want his hat to actually be able to fit on that head of his!)...

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/06/2012, at 12:13 PM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:


Too funny.  We've got a serious FF rumor,  and everyone is talking about Cotty 
eating his hat   :-)

Cheers, Christine


On May 31, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


A certain Brit once declared he would eat his hat if the letters FF
were ever associated with Pentax.  And since I watch TopGear, I know
that HP sauce is some kind of British equivalent to ketchup.

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:

I have no idea what that means Steven! Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/06/2012, at 11:41 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:


Who would we tell?  I wonder if HP sauce goes well on hats. . . .

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:

...but you didn't hear it from me.

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF

I can hardly contain myself!!

tan. :-)

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 1 June 2012 20:37, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Jun 1, 2012, at 2:25 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

 You know I just hope this FF surprise has an aperture simulator, because 
 there will sure as heck be a shortage of Modern FF lenses in September.


 Not to worry, I suspect there will be a shortage of FF cameras as well. If  
 you recall, Mark passed along a similar rumor from an unimpeachable source 
 five years or so ago. Those unimpeachable Pentax sources are frequently 
 confused.
 Paul

No it's probably right as I just bought my second k5 body.

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PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread George Sinos
This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
flagged this image for more work in the future.

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling

But isn't that something you'd really want to see.

Sadly looking at my lens lineup, I really don't care if they introduce a 
FF camera unless they are going to fully support their Legacy glass 
including full aperture metering with M and K series lenses.  Since that 
appears to be unlikely I just need to see a few wider angle lenses a 
couple of high end long lenses, and a K5 replacement, and I'll be happy.




On 5/31/2012 10:13 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

Too funny.  We've got a serious FF rumor,  and everyone is talking about Cotty 
eating his hat   :-)

Cheers, Christine


On May 31, 2012, at 8:45 PM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com  wrote:


A certain Brit once declared he would eat his hat if the letters FF
were ever associated with Pentax.  And since I watch TopGear, I know
that HP sauce is some kind of British equivalent to ketchup.

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Tanya Lovetanyal...@bigpond.com  wrote:

I have no idea what that means Steven! Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

On 01/06/2012, at 11:41 AM, Steven Desjardinsdrd1...@gmail.com  wrote:


Who would we tell?  I wonder if HP sauce goes well on hats. . . .

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Tanya Lovetanyal...@bigpond.com  wrote:

...but you didn't hear it from me.

Let me say two things only:

1. September
2. FF

I can hardly contain myself!!

tan. :-)

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread Kenton Brede
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

 http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

 The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
 challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
 some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
 detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

 It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
 settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
 version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
 where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
 flagged this image for more work in the future.

Did you have to purchase a new, what would it be ... cyan ink
cartridge, after printing this one? :)  What printer are you using
George?

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Re: PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling

If he's only doing a 5x7...

On 6/1/2012 10:37 AM, Kenton Brede wrote:

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM, George Sinosgsi...@gmail.com  wrote:

This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
flagged this image for more work in the future.

Did you have to purchase a new, what would it be ... cyan ink
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Re: defringe

2012-06-01 Thread Rob Studdert
On 31 May 2012 19:05, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 LR 4.1 is out. The defringe tool is new. A quick test:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/221-defringe

 I'm impressed.

It does look impressive.

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Re: defringe

2012-06-01 Thread Jan van Wijk
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:43:57 +1000 Rob Studdert wrote:

 LR 4.1 is out. The defringe tool is new. A quick test:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/221-defringe

 I'm impressed.

It does look impressive.

I just tested it this morning on a selection of 'difficult' images all f2.8 or 
lower.
Results are amazing!

Out of about 15 I tried, discarded before as unrecoverable, 12 are quite good 
now!

These were mostly tree branches and foliage against a bright sky,
but also some portraits with very bright backgrounds.

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Pentax Rumor Started in Spain for June 1 Announcement Reveled

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling

It's a cash back promotion.  You may now return to your usual activities.

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PESO: Thai Poutine

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
No, I’m not kidding; check it out at
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/-big/IMG_0067.jpg.html

Context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/Thai-Poutine

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Re: PESO: Thai Poutine

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
I like, well sort of, like is really to strong a word here, the 
response, We're all Bob.  I kind of think that eating at a restaurant 
who's major decoration is paintings of  a spoon and a fork is about like 
eating at a place called eats.  The food could be really good, but I 
wouldn't bet on it.


As food shots go your's looks good.

On 6/1/2012 11:42 AM, Tim Bray wrote:

No, I’m not kidding; check it out at
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/-big/IMG_0067.jpg.html

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Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to 
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't 
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames 
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture 
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with 
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total 
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective 
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera 
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since 
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.


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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Dario Bonazza
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA lenses 
cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture ring' and 
D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the lens coverage.

Dario

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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 6:03 PM
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Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.

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Re: June PUG: Time's a-wasting

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Finally got my submission in. That *was* actually a bit of fun, as is
my submission.


On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 G'day all

 Just because I'm enjoying myself travelling around coastal New South Wales
 doesn't mean I haven't been watching the list and noticing the lack of
 submissions for the June PUG.

 Four so far.

 So, just as a memory jogger, for June we have something a bit unusual.

 The theme is 'Songlines'.  Pick any song title (or title of any piece of
 music) and submit a photo that illustrates that title.  The photo doesn't
 need to fit the theme or mood expressed in the actual music, just its title.

 When you go to the submission form, you'll see two additional fields:

 * Music: Artist or Composer Name

 * Music: Web URL, if available

 The first is mandatory but the Web URL is optional.  However, if you know
 where the piece of music can be heard online (eg. YouTube or MySpace),
 include the URL so we can all have a listen and maybe educate ourselves to
 some new music.

 This should be fun!


 Submit here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

 Submission Guidelines here:

 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


 The main requirements are:

 * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
 * Max file size: 300k
 * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
 lens used is Pentax.
 * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
 that the image is displayed correctly on line.
 * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.



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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Nielsen
Can you imagine the flapping that would have ensued, had they called
the new 50 a DFA lens...?  The FF contingent would have exhausted
themselves long ago in all the excitement.  Rumor has it that the DA
60-250 also covers FF nicely, after all

:)
-c
(hopeful, but not holding my breath...)

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:03 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which
 is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the
 middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be
 designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
 wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the event of
 a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't
 cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens
 cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So either
 a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine,
 or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  I'll not
 take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
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Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter:
well, so far, so good.

I installed 4.1RC2, played with it a bit--seemed okay. The very next
day Adobe released 4.1 Final, so I installed *that* and have been
working with it since. The huge delays are gone, thank goodness. I'm
still trying stuff out, but so far it's working well for me on my
aging iMac, 6GB RAM, Snow Leopard (10.6.8).

The Develop module is very nice to use. I've created some great images
using it and can safely say it's an improvement over prior Lr
versions. (Not that they were bad at all.)

If anything goes off the rails, I'll be back to rant. :)


On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-05-29 9:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote

 Lr4.1 is due for final release pretty soon, I
 suspect.


 good guess — LR 4.1RC informed me just now that 4.1 final is available; the
 release notes are very coy about any possible speed improvements, the only
 relevant line being Corrections for issues introduced in previous versions
 of Lightroom.

 http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5392


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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Miserere
Pentax is going to release a camera for people with Fat Fingers in September.

Thanks Tanya! Sausage fingered photographers will now be able to join
the Pentax Covenant, at last!


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On 31 May 2012 21:38, Tanya Love tanyal...@bigpond.com wrote:
 ...but you didn't hear it from me.

 Let me say two things only:

 1. September
 2. FF

 I can hardly contain myself!!

 tan. :-)

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Miserere
On 31 May 2012 22:13, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Too funny.  We've got a serious FF rumor,  and everyone is talking about 
 Cotty eating his hat   :-)

 Cheers, Christine


We have our priorities, Christine  :-)


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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread Miserere
On 1 June 2012 12:03, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
 announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8 which
 is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't know the
 middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames admirably, be
 designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture ring, but it
 wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.  In the event of
 a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500 and $3500 it wouldn't
 cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with that camera as the lens
 cost difference would be a fraction of the total package price.  So either
 a.) Pentax marketing has their collective heads where the sun don't shine,
 or b.) there really isn't a FF camera that close in the pipeline.  I'll not
 take any bets either way, since this is not necessarily an either or
 proposition.


Maybe they'll release a DFA 50mm f/1.7 for the new camera. Without an
aperture ring. Those things are relics of the past.


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Re: K20D vs K-5 vs D800: portrait image rez [was: Something to think about.]

2012-06-01 Thread Miserere
I have an example of how amazingly low shadow noise is on the K-5 in my review:

http://enticingthelight.com/2010/12/01/review-pentax-k-5/#raw

For those who don't want to click through, here is the evidence
(warning, full-rez files):

Image as shot:
http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/IMGP2690.jpg

Image recovered in ACR:
http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/IMGP2690-recovered.jpg

Same scene shot with proper settings:
http://enticingthelight.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/IMGP2687.jpg

Sony should get a Nobel prize for this sensor  :-)


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On 20 May 2012 16:23, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 You won't notice any difference in noise between the K5 and K20D at ISO 200 
 in flat light. But when I have to use fill in conversion or brighten shadows 
 with dodging, I find that those actions will generate significant noise in 
 the K20 or K7 image but not in the K5 pic. And the few extra megapixels do 
 appear to add some detail resolution in K5 images. I think I can see it in 
 car pics that I shoot off tripods, but I haven't done any side by side, same 
 day tests. I'm not into pixel peeping. But I do know I'd never go back to the 
 K7 or K20.
 Paul

 On May 20, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 In the Something to think about. thread I opined that the D800E was
 likely to be in my upward growth path for more useable resolution in
 the type of studio shooting I'm doing lately. A few kind PDMLers
 suggested that the K-5 might give me what I'm looking for and sent me
 some RAW and high-rez JPEGs to compare against. Thank you very much,
 Paul, Larry and Boris!

 I pulled all these images into Lightroom, made a gallery of them and
 some of my best in-studio (untouched) raws, closely examined eyes and
 eyebrows in full-body and head and shoulder portraits, and here's what
 I concluded.

 - at ISO 80 (K-5) and 100 (K-5  K20D), the noise (or complete lack
 of) is indistinguishable between them.

 - in all cases, in full-body shots eyebrows are indistinct (read:
 fairly blurry smudges). No diff between K-5 and K20D.

 - in head  shoulders portraits, eyes and brows are sharp and
 well-resolved and it's very hard to say which is better, but I think
 the K-5 may have a very slight edge over the K20D.

 - the lenses being used make more difference than the two bodies. (No
 great surprise here.) And Boris's Sigma (whatever it is) is *sweet!*

 - I'll get more resolution improvement by simply using a tripod or
 monopod to shoot with rather then upgrading to a K-5.


 I also grabbed a few D800 head  shoulders portrait images from
 DPreview and compared. It's pretty clear that there's a large
 improvement in resolution, but it's also hard to see by how much. I'm
 convinced that the D800 shots were all done with a tripod, whereas all
 of mine and the loaners were hand-held. There is not an order of
 magnitude difference in resolution. There were no full-body, f8 or
 above, studio lighting D800 shots, so there was nothing for me to
 compare there.

 Final conclusion: for my work, K-5 isn't going to help much, if at
 all. Jury is still out on if D800E would really shake my world either.
 I need to investigate further -- probably rent one. I do have an
 acquaintance with one; maybe I can borrow that.

 The good news for me I don't feel so much disadvantaged by my
 2008-vintage kit as I was beginning to. I'm still in the ballgame. :-)

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Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation

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Re: I have a secret...

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:37 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Not to worry, I suspect there will be a shortage of FF cameras as well. If  
 you recall, Mark passed along a similar rumor from an unimpeachable source 
 five years or so ago. Those unimpeachable Pentax sources are frequently 
 confused.

I think peaches are excellent. Especially with cream and brown sugar.  -T

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Fw: photographers under attack

2012-06-01 Thread mary pitrone


--- On Fri, 6/1/12, mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com
 Subject: photographers under attack
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 1:54 PM
 More attack on
 photographers
 
 
 http://www.infowars.com/photography-a-crime-against-the-state-and-the-global-elite/
 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/30/security-tighter-than-ever-for-power-players/

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm
not so I see nothing worth reading there.


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tom C.
 Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation

Verbal vomit.

Tom C.

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Darren Addy
Not sure why the strong negative reactions on this. It should really
come as no surprise to anyone that different outlets have different
standards for what they want or will accept for publication.

Photojournalistic places will want as much realism as possible and
photographers who shoot for AP (for example) have been axed for
altering that reality (such as the recent story involving a guy
clumsily cloning out his own shadow from a photo).. National
Geographic is simply stating *their* standards for publication. They
aren't making value judgments on your work, unless you are submitting
(or hoping to submit) to them. Anyone who writes for a particular
publication needs to understand (or request) that publication's Style
Guide and hopefully be familiar with the tone of writing that the
publication selects. To send them something outside of that tells them
that you haven't even *read* their publication enough to become
familiar with what they typically use.

You have to know that curating/editing this stuff for publication
takes a lot of time... time that somebody is paying a salary for. If
you can prevent such stuff from being submitted before someone has to
spend any time on it, then you'd do it too.

If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
happen to them.

Being aware of the existence of style guides, such as the one Tim
posted, is valuable if you want to submit work that will get you a 2nd
look.

None of this means that I can't enjoy Instagram-ing my images or
dialing the contrast  saturation to eleven, or producing garish HDR
work, if that is what pleases me. But it means that the version of the
shot that I will submit to an individual place had better be in line
with what they want, if I want it to meet with *their* approval.

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread William Robb

On 01/06/2012 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm
not so I see nothing worth reading there.



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Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 1, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter:
 well, so far, so good.
 
 I installed 4.1RC2, played with it a bit--seemed okay. The very next
 day Adobe released 4.1 Final, so I installed *that* and have been

I had downloaded 4.1RC2 and was about to install it when Steve's message came 
through.

 working with it since. The huge delays are gone, thank goodness. I'm
 still trying stuff out, but so far it's working well for me on my
 aging iMac, 6GB RAM, Snow Leopard (10.6.8).

Sounds just like my system.  I looked into the 64 bit kernel, but it doesn't 
seem to be supported by my iMac 7.1

 
 The Develop module is very nice to use. I've created some great images
 using it and can safely say it's an improvement over prior Lr
 versions. (Not that they were bad at all.)

I'm still learning it.

 
 If anything goes off the rails, I'll be back to rant. :)
 
 
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-05-29 9:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
 
 Lr4.1 is due for final release pretty soon, I
 suspect.
 
 
 good guess — LR 4.1RC informed me just now that 4.1 final is available; the
 release notes are very coy about any possible speed improvements, the only
 relevant line being Corrections for issues introduced in previous versions
 of Lightroom.
 
 http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5392
 
 
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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Bray
Well... Interesting to know what the pros consider “realistic to be”.

In particular, I was fairly shocked that they were OK with HDR.   -T

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm
 not so I see nothing worth reading there.


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 Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation

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Re: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually the latest DFA 100mm macro that's weather resistant doesn't 
have an aperture ring, either that or they've done a damned good job 
camouflaging it.


http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/smc_PENTAX_D_FA_MACRO_100mm_F2.8_WR

On 6/1/2012 12:12 PM, Dario Bonazza wrote:
So far, all D-FA lenses have an aperture ring, while it seems some DA 
lenses cover 24x36 format (how well, I don't know).
So I have the feeling that now DA just means 'without an aperture 
ring' and D-FA means 'with an aperture ring', irrespectively of the 
lens coverage.

Dario

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Subject: Some thoughts about a Sept announcement of a FF DSLR from Pentax

Not a lot of thoughts really.  However if Pentax was really going to
announce a FF K mount camera wouldn't the latest lens, the DA 50 f1.8
which is pretty much one of their 50mm designs going back to oh, I don't
know the middle of the 20th century, and probably covers 24x36mm frames
admirably, be designated a DFA lens?  True it doesn't have an aperture
ring, but it wouldn't be the first DFA lens to be released without one.
In the event of a FF camera probably wiith a list price between $2500
and $3500 it wouldn't cannibalize many sales of the FA 50 f1.4 lens with
that camera as the lens cost difference would be a fraction of the total
package price.  So either a.) Pentax marketing has their collective
heads where the sun don't shine, or b.) there really isn't a FF camera
that close in the pipeline.  I'll not take any bets either way, since
this is not necessarily an either or proposition.




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OT: Serengeti on the subway

2012-06-01 Thread Bob W
An interesting video of Magnum photographer Bruce Davison talking about his
famous pictures taken on the New York subway:

http://www.tate.org.uk/context-comment/video/tateshots-bruce-davidsons-subw
ay

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Heh. I can't win: when I respond at great length to a question, it's
suggested I could have answered in two sentences. When I answer in two
sentences ... well now I'm going to have to respond at length.

Usually we post an opinion, something newsworthy, a picture, or a
pointer to somebody else's opinion, news or picture. This seemed to
lack on all counts.

It's a list of acceptance criteria all of which are appropriate to a
journal such as NatGeo. That NatGeo accepts user shots isn't news.
That they have acceptance criteria isn't news.

So I went, meh.

But Tim just pointed out that NatGeo okays HDR. So *that's* news ...


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 On 01/06/2012 12:01 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm
 not so I see nothing worth reading there.


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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Alright, now *that's* interesting. I admit not going over that list
closely to the very bottom, so I missed HDR: ok. I too am surprised
at that, but I guess it's a nod to current fashion. Or perhaps they
are using the steak test: HDR is okay as long as it's rare or medium
rare. If it's medium to overcooked, forget it; it's out. I'd expect to
see quality HDR in NatGeo myself. They do a pretty good editing job
there and they know what sort of shots sell magazines.

But they also say stuff like fisheye: OK, but enter at your own risk
- editors tend to dislike such optical gimmicks, when I've seen
plenty of ultra-wide shots in NatGeo over the years.


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:48 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:
 Well... Interesting to know what the pros consider “realistic to be”.

 In particular, I was fairly shocked that they were OK with HDR.   -T

 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 To what end? If I were submitting shots to NatGeo then maybe, but I'm
 not so I see nothing worth reading there.


 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 Worth reading: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/your-shot/manipulation


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Re: OT: Serengeti on the subway

2012-06-01 Thread Darren Addy
Sounds very interesting, but I see no video on that page (even after
correcting for the linebreak in the URL).
Even registered, and reloading the page I see no video.
Did find it on their YouTube channel though (in case anyone is having
the same problems I'm having):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6o2C0O9V4feature=plcp


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 An interesting video of Magnum photographer Bruce Davison talking about his
 famous pictures taken on the New York subway:

 http://www.tate.org.uk/context-comment/video/tateshots-bruce-davidsons-subw
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Re: OT: Serengeti on the subway

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
Darren, check that your Flash player hasn't been disabled. The
embedded vid appeared fine for me.


On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sounds very interesting, but I see no video on that page (even after
 correcting for the linebreak in the URL).
 Even registered, and reloading the page I see no video.
 Did find it on their YouTube channel though (in case anyone is having
 the same problems I'm having):
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY6o2C0O9V4feature=plcp


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 An interesting video of Magnum photographer Bruce Davison talking about his
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Re: OT: Serengeti on the subway

2012-06-01 Thread Bruce Walker
That was beautiful, Bob. Thanks!


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Re: OT: Serengeti on the subway

2012-06-01 Thread Perry Pellechia
I used the subway daily to get to high school during that time frame.
Those photos are a pretty accurate documentation of the NYC subways
back then.  My brother was part of the NYC transit police decoy unit
that was featured by Davidson.  A photo of him (not the officer with
the gun to the perp's head) was included in an accompanying article in
New York magazine published at that time.  The unit was shut down
shortly after that article because they were accused of entrapment.


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 I used the subway daily to get to high school during that time frame.
 Those photos are a pretty accurate documentation of the NYC subways back
 then.  My brother was part of the NYC transit police decoy unit that was
 featured by Davidson.  A photo of him (not the officer with the gun to the
 perp's head) was included in an accompanying article in New York magazine
 published at that time.  The unit was shut down shortly after that article
 because they were accused of entrapment.

 
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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Tom C.
 Not sure why the strong negative reactions on this. It should really
 come as no surprise to anyone that different outlets have different
 standards for what they want or will accept for publication.

 Photojournalistic places will want as much realism as possible and
 photographers who shoot for AP (for example) have been axed for
 altering that reality (such as the recent story involving a guy
 clumsily cloning out his own shadow from a photo).. National
 Geographic is simply stating *their* standards for publication. They
 aren't making value judgments on your work, unless you are submitting
 (or hoping to submit) to them. Anyone who writes for a particular
 publication needs to understand (or request) that publication's Style
 Guide and hopefully be familiar with the tone of writing that the
 publication selects. To send them something outside of that tells them
 that you haven't even *read* their publication enough to become
 familiar with what they typically use.

 You have to know that curating/editing this stuff for publication
 takes a lot of time... time that somebody is paying a salary for. If
 you can prevent such stuff from being submitted before someone has to
 spend any time on it, then you'd do it too.

 If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
 be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
 National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
 it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
 come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
 Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
 www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
 happen to them.

 Being aware of the existence of style guides, such as the one Tim
 posted, is valuable if you want to submit work that will get you a 2nd
 look.

 None of this means that I can't enjoy Instagram-ing my images or
 dialing the contrast  saturation to eleven, or producing garish HDR
 work, if that is what pleases me. But it means that the version of the
 shot that I will submit to an individual place had better be in line
 with what they want, if I want it to meet with *their* approval.

Everything you say is true. What I didn't like was the high and mighty
chastising verbage:

I encourage you to submit photographs that are real. The world is
already full of visual artifice, and we aren't running Your Shot to
add to it. We want to see the world through your eyes, not the tools
of Photoshop.

As if THEY define REAL. We aren't running Your Shot to add to it?
That's a pretty direct smack down.

We look at every photo to see if it's authentic, and if we find that
yours is in any way deceptive, we'll disqualify it.

Now the writer is equating photo manipulation with deceptiveness.
That's a moral judgement he's superimposing. And really, could they
tell if I PS'd a beer can out of the grass, or an electrical line out
of a clear blue sky? What if that IS the view through my eyes - minus
the garbage?

And don't oversaturate the color.

I guess all the Velvia ever used never qualified for Nat Geo.

No. If you use one of the myriad alteration filters available in
your digital photo software, please stop.

Wow, is that ever WHINY!!! And by the way who do you think you are
telling someone to stop?

HAND-TINTED IMAGES: OK, but only if you're experienced in this art.

What if I'm not experienced but did a damn good job 'in this art'
anyway? This doesn't reflect the same values previously espoused nor
does allowing BW.

CROPPING: OK, if it makes the photo better.

Another whine. It's OK - If it makes the photo better. Define better.
This was an amateurish way of talking.

FISH-EYE LENSES: OK, but enter at your own risk - editors tend to
dislike such optical gimmicks.

I cant begin to count the number of fish-eye shots I've seen in Nat
Geo. How is it a gimmick any more, than a macro, a wide-angle, a
telephoto? It's another kind of lens that bends the light differently?
What about tilt and shift? Is that a gimmick?

I found the spiel to be distasteful and written condescendingly. It
sounds like it came from someone who is a little too full of
themselves (unlike me).

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread George Sinos
It's a Canon Pro9500 vintage 2008.

Actually I'm finding that using the printer everyday consumes less
ink.  I think what's happening is the cleaning cycle that executes on
every startup uses less ink.  When I was using it every so often, it
could use a half of a cartridge just blowing the cobwebs out of the
print head.  Multiply that by 10 cartridges and tears flow faster than
ink.

Shortly after I bought it, I was in the hospital for a while and
didn't use it for about 3 months after I returned home.  I used almost
a full set of cartridges in the deep cleaning cycle.

These things want to be used.

After this project, if I go through a period of non-use, I'll print a
nozzle check sheet every couple of days just to keep the thing happy.
In the long run it will likely be less expensive.

gs

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Kenton Brede kbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

 http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

 The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
 challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
 some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
 detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

 It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
 settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
 version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
 where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
 flagged this image for more work in the future.

 Did you have to purchase a new, what would it be ... cyan ink
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Re: PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread George Sinos
I'm printing 8x10s.  Anything smaller and I can't really tell much
about the detail.

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 If he's only doing a 5x7...


 On 6/1/2012 10:37 AM, Kenton Brede wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM, George Sinosgsi...@gmail.com  wrote:

 This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

 http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

 The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
 challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
 some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
 detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

 It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
 settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
 version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
 where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
 flagged this image for more work in the future.

 Did you have to purchase a new, what would it be ... cyan ink
 cartridge, after printing this one? :)  What printer are you using
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Re: PESO - PAD - Duck - Print-a-Day-6

2012-06-01 Thread George Sinos
So far the ink use hasn't been bad.  I've replaced the gray and red
carts.  The other 8 are mostly full.

Even though I've only posted prints 1 through 6, I'm actually on print
15.  I've printed a few others things during the project so the total
is about 20 8x10s.  I am keeping track of this just to see how much it
cost for the project.

gs

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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Kenton Brede kbr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 This is number six in the series Print a Day for 30 Days

 This duck is a visitor to a small pond in a park near my home.

 http://georges.posterous.com/duck-print-a-day-6

 The reflections on the pond surface made this one of the more
 challenging prints so far.  Printers generally have difficulty with
 some of the hues in the blue-green area.   There is a lot of subtle
 detail in the pond surface that relies on these specific colors.

 It's the first print that had very significant differences in the
 settings between the screen and print versions.  In the end, the print
 version looks fine, but my skills haven't quite developed to the point
 where I can achieve the depth that is seen on the screen.  I've
 flagged this image for more work in the future.

 Did you have to purchase a new, what would it be ... cyan ink
 cartridge, after printing this one? :)  What printer are you using
 George?

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Re: Fw: photographers under attack

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
another crazy heard from...

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM, mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com wrote:


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 From: mary pitrone mapitr...@yahoo.com
 Subject: photographers under attack
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 1:54 PM
 More attack on
 photographers


 http://www.infowars.com/photography-a-crime-against-the-state-and-the-global-elite/
 http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/30/security-tighter-than-ever-for-power-players/

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FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread David Parsons
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html

A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
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Re: June PUG: Time's a-wasting

2012-06-01 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi

I submitted to PUG for the first time after being subscribed for
almost 12 years :)
Please, don't beat me for the simple photo... I also thought that
theme was really fun and gave me an incentive to actually submit it.

D.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Finally got my submission in. That *was* actually a bit of fun, as is
 my submission.


 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
 wrote:
 
  G'day all
 
  Just because I'm enjoying myself travelling around coastal New South
  Wales
  doesn't mean I haven't been watching the list and noticing the lack of
  submissions for the June PUG.
 
  Four so far.
 
  So, just as a memory jogger, for June we have something a bit unusual.
 
  The theme is 'Songlines'.  Pick any song title (or title of any piece of
  music) and submit a photo that illustrates that title.  The photo
  doesn't
  need to fit the theme or mood expressed in the actual music, just its
  title.
 
  When you go to the submission form, you'll see two additional fields:
 
  * Music: Artist or Composer Name
 
  * Music: Web URL, if available
 
  The first is mandatory but the Web URL is optional.  However, if you
  know
  where the piece of music can be heard online (eg. YouTube or MySpace),
  include the URL so we can all have a listen and maybe educate ourselves
  to
  some new music.
 
  This should be fun!
 
 
  Submit here:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
 
  Submission Guidelines here:
 
  http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
 
 
  The main requirements are:
 
  * Max. pixel dimensions: 800 x 800 pixels
  * Max file size: 300k
  * Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body or
  lens used is Pentax.
  * If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to ensure
  that the image is displayed correctly on line.
  * Nominal closing date for submissions: 31 May.
 
 
 
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Re: FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:02:36PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:
 http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html
 
 A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
 looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
 aren't too high.

Really?  Over 80% of new pricing seems more than a bit high to me ...


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Re: FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/1/2012 5:29 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:02:36PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html

A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
aren't too high.

Really?  Over 80% of new pricing seems more than a bit high to me ...


Seems an odd collection of lenses to me, like maybe just what somebody 
was carrying in their bag when it disappeared.


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Re: FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread David Parsons
The listing is legit.  It's not stolen gear.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6/1/2012 5:29 PM, John Francis wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:02:36PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:

 http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html

 A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
 looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
 aren't too high.

 Really?  Over 80% of new pricing seems more than a bit high to me ...


 Seems an odd collection of lenses to me, like maybe just what somebody was
 carrying in their bag when it disappeared.

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Re: OT on Lr 4 being unusably slow

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks for posting this, Bruce.  Maybe I will upgrade over the weekend.   
Cheers, Christine 



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 For anyone following the saga, an update from the thread starter:
 well, so far, so good.
 
 I installed 4.1RC2, played with it a bit--seemed okay. The very next
 day Adobe released 4.1 Final, so I installed *that* and have been
 working with it since. The huge delays are gone, thank goodness. I'm
 still trying stuff out, but so far it's working well for me on my
 aging iMac, 6GB RAM, Snow Leopard (10.6.8).
 
 The Develop module is very nice to use. I've created some great images
 using it and can safely say it's an improvement over prior Lr
 versions. (Not that they were bad at all.)
 
 If anything goes off the rails, I'll be back to rant. :)
 
 
 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 on 2012-05-29 9:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote
 
 Lr4.1 is due for final release pretty soon, I
 suspect.
 
 
 good guess — LR 4.1RC informed me just now that 4.1 final is available; the
 release notes are very coy about any possible speed improvements, the only
 relevant line being Corrections for issues introduced in previous versions
 of Lightroom.
 
 http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5392
 
 
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Re: FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread Stan Halpin

On Jun 1, 2012, at 5:29 PM, John Francis wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:02:36PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:
 http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html
 
 A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
 looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
 aren't too high.
 
 Really?  Over 80% of new pricing seems more than a bit high to me ...
 
 

He says he is upgrading from Pentax to Canon, plus he tries to sell a large 
package of body + lenses for over $2k - you have to wonder about his touch with 
reality . . .


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June PUG - Last Call for 'Songlines'

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Walters

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday so get 'em in while you still can.

So far we have 21 themed submissions and one Open Gallery submission.


The details:

Submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
ensure that the image is displayed correctly on line.



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PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread Dmitry Gromov
Hi

Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
and couldn't find much.
pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
of all messages from mail-archive.

Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
counts per year:

20057,831
20067,381
20076,247
20085,009
20095,249
20105,295
20114,841

Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.

Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?

Dmitry

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Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
I think it's me. I've gradually turned into actual photography.

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2012/6/1 Dmitry Gromov grom...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
 and couldn't find much.
 pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
 of all messages from mail-archive.

 Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
 switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
 counts per year:

 2005    7,831
 2006    7,381
 2007    6,247
 2008    5,009
 2009    5,249
 2010    5,295
 2011    4,841

 Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.

 Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
 net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
 Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?

 Dmitry

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Re: defringe

2012-06-01 Thread Derby Chang


I'm highly impressed too.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_06/12_06_defringe/01.htm


On 31/05/2012 7:05 PM, Toine wrote:

LR 4.1 is out. The defringe tool is new. A quick test:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/221-defringe

I'm impressed.

Toine



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External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen
I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:

I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are starting to 
get full.

I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.

Zab's new laptop, a 17 macbook pro has more processing power than my iMac and 
my desktop LInux box combined.  When we upgrade the memory, it'll have more 
memory than all of my computers combined.  When it's available, or I have a 
large number of photos to process, it would be handy to be able to use it, 
rather than my iMac.

I just changed to LR4, and LR4.1, so my system is somewhat in flux as I've got 
various catalogs that haven't been updated yet, and I will want to split sub 
catalogs (aikido, music, current working etc.) out from the massive 
everything catalog.  So, if I'm going to make any radical changes, this is a 
good time to do so.

My gut feeling is that the right way to do this is some sort of external drive 
that I can share between the two machines for storing all the RAW files.  I 
suspect that I'll want some sort of box with gigabit ethernet on one end, and 
several sata drives on the other end.  My current drives can become backups.  
As to the catalogs themselves, I'll just do something careful and clever so 
that I've got the necessary working catalog on whichever machine I'm using, and 
sync things up with import from catalog.

I'm looking for suggestions as to general plan (for example, gigabit NAS), as 
well as specifics (Todd's Network storage and fish market has the whizzbo 
cottystack on sale for $200 this week) on how I should go about doing this.


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RE: External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread Bob W
Lightroom is very slow over a network has been my experience. You're better
off keeping your catalogue on your fixed disk.

B

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 Sent: 01 June 2012 23:53
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 Subject: External storage of raw files
 
 I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:
 
 I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are
 starting to get full.
 
 I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.
 
 Zab's new laptop, a 17 macbook pro has more processing power than my
 iMac and my desktop LInux box combined.  When we upgrade the memory,
 it'll have more memory than all of my computers combined.  When it's
 available, or I have a large number of photos to process, it would be
 handy to be able to use it, rather than my iMac.
 
 I just changed to LR4, and LR4.1, so my system is somewhat in flux as
 I've got various catalogs that haven't been updated yet, and I will
 want to split sub catalogs (aikido, music, current working etc.) out
 from the massive everything catalog.  So, if I'm going to make any
 radical changes, this is a good time to do so.
 
 My gut feeling is that the right way to do this is some sort of
 external drive that I can share between the two machines for storing
 all the RAW files.  I suspect that I'll want some sort of box with
 gigabit ethernet on one end, and several sata drives on the other end.
 My current drives can become backups.  As to the catalogs themselves,
 I'll just do something careful and clever so that I've got the
 necessary working catalog on whichever machine I'm using, and sync
 things up with import from catalog.
 
 I'm looking for suggestions as to general plan (for example, gigabit
 NAS), as well as specifics (Todd's Network storage and fish market has
 the whizzbo cottystack on sale for $200 this week) on how I should go
 about doing this.
 
 
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Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Brian Walters
I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it  
used to be


Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices  
are considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want  
to blow up my new camera.




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Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:57 PM, Bob W wrote:

 Lightroom is very slow over a network has been my experience. You're better
 off keeping your catalogue on your fixed disk.



Yes, my catalog is on the internal disk.  I've learned that lesson.  I'll just 
need to copy that back and forth between machines as needed.  But, it's a very 
small file.  There's no way that I'll be able to put 6-8TB of files on an 
internal disk though.  At least not this year.

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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to 
 be
 
 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are 
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow up 
 my new camera.

I am, they seem to work as well as Pentax batteries.

 
 
 
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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Sorenson
When I bought the K-5 from BH, I got the Pearstone branded extra 
battery.  It's listed as 1700 mAh vs 1860 for the Pentax brand, but 
otherwise seems to work just as well...and it's half the price of the 
Pentax.


-p

On 6/1/2012 6:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to 
be

Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are 
considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow up 
my new camera.


I am, they seem to work as well as Pentax batteries.





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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Nielsen
I have two third-party, and two pentax, batteries... they seem to work
the same.

Once upon a time, my k-5 had mirror-flop disorder... in which the
mirror would randomly and repeatedly actuate, rendering picture-taking
impossible.  (It was almost like blowing up!)  There is some
speculation that could be initiated by an over-charged battery
disturbing the electrical ecosystem in the camera... I have no idea.
It was never a problem in the k-7.   But, I'd caution against
over-charging the batteries...

:)
-c

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 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to
 be

 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
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Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread David Parsons
Lightroom won't even run if the catalog isn't local.  You can store
files anywhere you want.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 Lightroom is very slow over a network has been my experience. You're better
 off keeping your catalogue on your fixed disk.

 B

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 Sent: 01 June 2012 23:53
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: External storage of raw files

 I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:

 I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are
 starting to get full.

 I'm very tempted to convert my library of raw files from PEF to DNG.

 Zab's new laptop, a 17 macbook pro has more processing power than my
 iMac and my desktop LInux box combined.  When we upgrade the memory,
 it'll have more memory than all of my computers combined.  When it's
 available, or I have a large number of photos to process, it would be
 handy to be able to use it, rather than my iMac.

 I just changed to LR4, and LR4.1, so my system is somewhat in flux as
 I've got various catalogs that haven't been updated yet, and I will
 want to split sub catalogs (aikido, music, current working etc.) out
 from the massive everything catalog.  So, if I'm going to make any
 radical changes, this is a good time to do so.

 My gut feeling is that the right way to do this is some sort of
 external drive that I can share between the two machines for storing
 all the RAW files.  I suspect that I'll want some sort of box with
 gigabit ethernet on one end, and several sata drives on the other end.
 My current drives can become backups.  As to the catalogs themselves,
 I'll just do something careful and clever so that I've got the
 necessary working catalog on whichever machine I'm using, and sync
 things up with import from catalog.

 I'm looking for suggestions as to general plan (for example, gigabit
 NAS), as well as specifics (Todd's Network storage and fish market has
 the whizzbo cottystack on sale for $200 this week) on how I should go
 about doing this.


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Re: defringe

2012-06-01 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

 
 I'm highly impressed too.
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12_06/12_06_defringe/01.htm

Quite!

But what will PDML be like without the fringe?


 
 
 On 31/05/2012 7:05 PM, Toine wrote:
 LR 4.1 is out. The defringe tool is new. A quick test:
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/221-defringe
 
 I'm impressed.
 
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Re: FS Friday: FOFA link on Boston CL

2012-06-01 Thread John Francis

I never suggested it was.

Used equipment typically sells at no more than 65% of new pricing.
Couple that with the fact that the main item - the camera body - is
not a current model, and I just don't see that price as realistic.

Just because I paid $1700 for my *ist-D doesn't mean I could sell
it for $1400, even if it were in mint condition.



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 The listing is legit.  It's not stolen gear.
 
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:38 PM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  On 6/1/2012 5:29 PM, John Francis wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:02:36PM -0400, David Parsons wrote:
 
  http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/pho/3050631455.html
 
  A friend sent this to me knowing that I shoot Pentax, but I'm not
  looking ATM, but for any Boston area PDMLers looking, the prices
  aren't too high.
 
  Really? ?Over 80% of new pricing seems more than a bit high to me ...
 
 
  Seems an odd collection of lenses to me, like maybe just what somebody was
  carrying in their bag when it disappeared.
 
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  a lengthily search.
 
 
 
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FS Fryday

2012-06-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Assorted goodies:

#1 Mamiya RB67 with 180C lens, w/l, handle grip, and motorized back.  $250
shipped (US)
#2 Sekonic L308S.  without case or flat sensor cover, but those can be
gotten from MAC.  $125 shipped (US)
#3 Chinon Bellami. Works great. Flash has had a leak, so it will come along
just for show. $25 shipped (US).
#4 Honeywell Spotmatic with SMC 55/1.8 Meter untested, but shutter works
well @ all speeds and lens is clean and clear. $30 shipped (US)
#5 Fuji 4x loupe. They gave these away with Pro Packs in the late 90s. Great
loupe. I had a nice Rodenstock and comparing them there was some diff, but I
didn't think it was enough to keep the Rodenstock. Got this from a brother
to pass on -- I don't need 2. $40 shipped (US).
#6 Pentax M 50/1.7 Very good condition. $40 shipped (US).
#7 Pentax M 50/1.4 Very good condition. $100 shipped (US).

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Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Large volumes of data that need to be secure require more than a single
external drive.
Of course.

A SAN can be done inexpensively with a Linux install.  And a SAN can be set
up for dynamic growth.  
Need more space?  Just add a drive and allocate it to the SAN volume.
It seems our data often outgrows our storage.

But then again, there is the prospect of off-line storage.
3T USB3 units are available for about $150 now.
Just fill it up and put it in the safe.

My 2c.

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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Happened to me as well. I charged both of my k-5 batteries -- grip and camera 
-- last week. I usually charge just one, and then get the other next time. I 
left each of them on the charger for a couple of hours after they were fully 
charged. Right after charging the second battery, I tried  to use the camera, I 
experienced the mirror-flop disorder. At least that's what I assume it was. The 
camera kept making a clicking noise when the shutter was pushed and wouldn't 
function. I switched off the trip, and the camera started working 
intermittently, so I turned on preview and left it on for a few minutes. After 
that it worked fin, and I was able to switch the grip back on. I'm going to go 
back to charging only one battery at a time and taking care not to overcharge. 
Or if I do charge both at once, which I have to do for big jobs, I'm going to 
make sure they don' t spend too much time on the charger, and I'm going to 
leave the grip turned off until I've logged a few shots. 

Paul
On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 I have two third-party, and two pentax, batteries... they seem to work
 the same.
 
 Once upon a time, my k-5 had mirror-flop disorder... in which the
 mirror would randomly and repeatedly actuate, rendering picture-taking
 impossible.  (It was almost like blowing up!)  There is some
 speculation that could be initiated by an over-charged battery
 disturbing the electrical ecosystem in the camera... I have no idea.
 It was never a problem in the k-7.   But, I'd caution against
 over-charging the batteries...
 
 :)
 -c
 
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to
 be
 
 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
 up my new camera.
 
 
 
 --
 Cheers
 
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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Well I'm glad to have seen it --

On a wing and a prayer - I hopped right in and submitted my red flamingo
funny thing though, I couldnt find the button to log out after I did the 
my shot thing.


Yeah, the admonishments were , perhaps, a bit heavy handed and um not
as nicely written as they might have been - but I'd be unlikely to
have found much in my files that wouldn't fit the technical requirements 
- and yeah, I'd be thrilled if actually sold them

a photo - it was one of my dreams years ago to shoot for them.

So THANKS for posting - now who was it that did that? :-)

ann



On 6/1/2012 14:28, Darren Addy wrote:

Not sure why the strong negative reactions on this. It should really
come as no surprise to anyone that different outlets have different
standards for what they want or will accept for publication.

Photojournalistic places will want as much realism as possible and
photographers who shoot for AP (for example) have been axed for
altering that reality (such as the recent story involving a guy
clumsily cloning out his own shadow from a photo).. National
Geographic is simply stating *their* standards for publication. They
aren't making value judgments on your work, unless you are submitting
(or hoping to submit) to them. Anyone who writes for a particular
publication needs to understand (or request) that publication's Style
Guide and hopefully be familiar with the tone of writing that the
publication selects. To send them something outside of that tells them
that you haven't even *read* their publication enough to become
familiar with what they typically use.

You have to know that curating/editing this stuff for publication
takes a lot of time... time that somebody is paying a salary for. If
you can prevent such stuff from being submitted before someone has to
spend any time on it, then you'd do it too.

If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
happen to them.

Being aware of the existence of style guides, such as the one Tim
posted, is valuable if you want to submit work that will get you a 2nd
look.

None of this means that I can't enjoy Instagram-ing my images or
dialing the contrast  saturation to eleven, or producing garish HDR
work, if that is what pleases me. But it means that the version of the
shot that I will submit to an individual place had better be in line
with what they want, if I want it to meet with *their* approval.



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Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread Steven Desjardins
Maybe we're having fewer but longer conversations.  Mostly real
conversations that have turned into pun contests.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Tim Øsleby maritim...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think it's me. I've gradually turned into actual photography.

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 to arr is pirate
 


 2012/6/1 Dmitry Gromov grom...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
 and couldn't find much.
 pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
 of all messages from mail-archive.

 Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
 switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
 counts per year:

 2005    7,831
 2006    7,381
 2007    6,247
 2008    5,009
 2009    5,249
 2010    5,295
 2011    4,841

 Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.

 Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
 net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
 Pentaxians of not getting what they anted from the company?

 Dmitry

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Jeffery Smith
Wasn't Getty refusing images not taken with high end Nikon or high end Canon? 
That seems more absurd to me. Disqualifying by brand?

Sent from my iPad

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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Christine Nielsen
Argh, sorry to hear that, Paul.  I think I had over-charged by placing
an already charged battery back on the charger... whoops.  But, I
would keep an eye on it  not hesitate to send it in for repair -- my
camera started out with a few random issues like you describe, which
then quickly degenerated into full-on non-functionality.  I also
found, like you,  that a somewhat drained battery was less likely to
create problems.  I thought it was interesting that putting a
problematic battery - the one that was in the k-5 when it was
flopping -- into the k-7 did not produce the flops in that camera.
That's when the k-5 went in for service.  Luckily, it was a quick trip
to Arizona  back -- they knew exactly what the problem was, had seen
it before, I gather... Since then, I have used the same batteries in
the k-5 without issue.  Also, I don't worry too much about leaving the
batteries on the charger beyond the charging time... maybe I should...
but I haven't had any recurrence of the flops since getting it back
from service.

Good luck --
:)
-c



On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Happened to me as well. I charged both of my k-5 batteries -- grip and camera 
 -- last week. I usually charge just one, and then get the other next time. I 
 left each of them on the charger for a couple of hours after they were fully 
 charged. Right after charging the second battery, I tried  to use the camera, 
 I experienced the mirror-flop disorder. At least that's what I assume it was. 
 The camera kept making a clicking noise when the shutter was pushed and 
 wouldn't function. I switched off the trip, and the camera started working 
 intermittently, so I turned on preview and left it on for a few minutes. 
 After that it worked fin, and I was able to switch the grip back on. I'm 
 going to go back to charging only one battery at a time and taking care not 
 to overcharge. Or if I do charge both at once, which I have to do for big 
 jobs, I'm going to make sure they don' t spend too much time on the charger, 
 and I'm going to leave the grip turned off until I've logged a few shots.

 Paul
 On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 I have two third-party, and two pentax, batteries... they seem to work
 the same.

 Once upon a time, my k-5 had mirror-flop disorder... in which the
 mirror would randomly and repeatedly actuate, rendering picture-taking
 impossible.  (It was almost like blowing up!)  There is some
 speculation that could be initiated by an over-charged battery
 disturbing the electrical ecosystem in the camera... I have no idea.
 It was never a problem in the k-7.   But, I'd caution against
 over-charging the batteries...

 :)
 -c

 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to
 be

 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
 up my new camera.



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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
me too.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I bought the K-5 from BH, I got the Pearstone branded extra battery.
  It's listed as 1700 mAh vs 1860 for the Pentax brand, but otherwise seems
 to work just as well...and it's half the price of the Pentax.

 -p


 On 6/1/2012 6:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


 On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used
 to be

 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
 up my new camera.


 I am, they seem to work as well as Pentax batteries.




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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
That is, I bought an extra battery (pearstone?) for the K-5 and have
had no problems.
Generally Pentax in the camera, off-brand in the grip.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 me too.

 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 When I bought the K-5 from BH, I got the Pearstone branded extra battery.
  It's listed as 1700 mAh vs 1860 for the Pentax brand, but otherwise seems
 to work just as well...and it's half the price of the Pentax.

 -p


 On 6/1/2012 6:10 PM, Larry Colen wrote:


 On Jun 1, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used
 to be

 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
 up my new camera.


 I am, they seem to work as well as Pentax batteries.




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Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Think Pentax Forum is a competitor who has vacuumed lots of
speculation, hand wringing, technical minutia out of the list.  Plus
maybe the old Pentaxians know all they need to about the cameras and
lenses.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Dmitry Gromov grom...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 Was looking for PDML statistics recently (just out of plain curiosity)
 and couldn't find much.
 pdml.net only has files starting 2006 and I'm not sure how to get list
 of all messages from mail-archive.

 Not sure where is my own archive from 2000 forward, but since I
 switched to Gmail at the end of 2004, I quickly grabbed conversation
 counts per year:

 2005    7,831
 2006    7,381
 2007    6,247
 2008    5,009
 2009    5,249
 2010    5,295
 2011    4,841

 Again, this is not message count, but conversations as seen by Google.

 Thought, it may be interesting to see how other Pentax places on the
 net vacuumed some people from this list. Or is it frustration of old
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Re: Third Party Batteries

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks for the note, Christine. I may send the k-5 in for service anyway. I 
think it' at about 30,000 frames. But both of my 560 flashes are in Chandler 
now, so I'm going to wait and see what that costs me.  Lots of frames on both 
flashes as well, so I can count these snafus as normal service. But no 
warranties.
Paul
On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:25 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 Argh, sorry to hear that, Paul.  I think I had over-charged by placing
 an already charged battery back on the charger... whoops.  But, I
 would keep an eye on it  not hesitate to send it in for repair -- my
 camera started out with a few random issues like you describe, which
 then quickly degenerated into full-on non-functionality.  I also
 found, like you,  that a somewhat drained battery was less likely to
 create problems.  I thought it was interesting that putting a
 problematic battery - the one that was in the k-5 when it was
 flopping -- into the k-7 did not produce the flops in that camera.
 That's when the k-5 went in for service.  Luckily, it was a quick trip
 to Arizona  back -- they knew exactly what the problem was, had seen
 it before, I gather... Since then, I have used the same batteries in
 the k-5 without issue.  Also, I don't worry too much about leaving the
 batteries on the charger beyond the charging time... maybe I should...
 but I haven't had any recurrence of the flops since getting it back
 from service.
 
 Good luck --
 :)
 -c
 
 
 
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
 Happened to me as well. I charged both of my k-5 batteries -- grip and 
 camera -- last week. I usually charge just one, and then get the other next 
 time. I left each of them on the charger for a couple of hours after they 
 were fully charged. Right after charging the second battery, I tried  to use 
 the camera, I experienced the mirror-flop disorder. At least that's what I 
 assume it was. The camera kept making a clicking noise when the shutter was 
 pushed and wouldn't function. I switched off the trip, and the camera 
 started working intermittently, so I turned on preview and left it on for a 
 few minutes. After that it worked fin, and I was able to switch the grip 
 back on. I'm going to go back to charging only one battery at a time and 
 taking care not to overcharge. Or if I do charge both at once, which I have 
 to do for big jobs, I'm going to make sure they don' t spend too much time 
 on the charger, and I'm going to leave the grip turned off until I've logged 
 a few shots.
 
 Paul
 On Jun 1, 2012, at 7:31 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
 
 I have two third-party, and two pentax, batteries... they seem to work
 the same.
 
 Once upon a time, my k-5 had mirror-flop disorder... in which the
 mirror would randomly and repeatedly actuate, rendering picture-taking
 impossible.  (It was almost like blowing up!)  There is some
 speculation that could be initiated by an over-charged battery
 disturbing the electrical ecosystem in the camera... I have no idea.
 It was never a problem in the k-7.   But, I'd caution against
 over-charging the batteries...
 
 :)
 -c
 
 On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 I'm sure this has been discussed before but my memory isn't what it used to
 be
 
 Is anyone using third party batteries in their K-7/K-5?  The prices are
 considerably* lower than the Pentax branded ones but I don't want to blow
 up my new camera.
 
 
 
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Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 Think Pentax Forum is a competitor who has vacuumed lots of

Yeah, they suck.

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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Mark C

On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
happen to them.

First off - those are some damn impressive shots on your son-in-law's 
website! I've never seen weather like that except in CGI movies! Amazing...


Second - I agree that is National Geographic's call about what they want 
to publish or not, and is only fair to participants to tell them up 
front what to expect. While the tone of the piece may be a bit snarky,  
it probably was not the most snarky thing said on the internet on 
whatever day it happened to be published.


The closest I ever got to National Geographic was the web supplement for 
National Geographic Explorer -


http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngexplorer/0509/articles/gallery_1.html

They cropped the photo in a way that I don't think improved it, but then 
they didn't over sharpen it like I did for my website:


http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/new/IMGP1690.htm

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Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-01 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-06-01 18:53, Larry Colen wrote:

I've got several related issues that may have a single solution:


Rule #1: More copies are better.
Rule #2: Make a copy, see rule #1.


I've got about 4.5TB of raw PEFs on two drives.  Both drives are starting to 
get full.


And they're probably in the same physical location, too, aren't they? 
What happens when the house burns down?



My gut feeling is that the right way to do this is some sort of external drive 
that I can share between the two machines for storing all the RAW files.  I 
suspect that I'll want some sort of box with gigabit ethernet on one end, and 
several sata drives on the other end.  My current drives can become backups.  
As to the catalogs themselves, I'll just do something careful and clever so 
that I've got the necessary working catalog on whichever machine I'm using, and 
sync things up with import from catalog.


My plan (note: I develop software for a living, and have lots of 
computers compared to most people, and have been doing it a long time, 
and have worked for several startup companies on a shoestring, so have 
been screwed or screwed myself many times):


1. Main computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready
2. Media computer: 4 drive RAID 10 array, two cold drives ready
3. Three external drives

Both computers and one external are in my home.  The second external is 
150 miles away, but one version (up to six months or so) behind.  The 
third external is 250 miles away, but two versions (up to a year or 
so) behind.


I have additional itinerant externals that move back and forth between 
my home and my office, 20 miles away and much sturdier.  These contain 
snapshots between versions.  Periodically, everything rotates.


I only wish those sorts of backup options had been economically 
available for film.


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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Mark the both look fine - I dont understand their crop, either, tho...

way to go!

ann

On 6/1/2012 22:44, Mark C wrote:

On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
happen to them.


First off - those are some damn impressive shots on your son-in-law's
website! I've never seen weather like that except in CGI movies! Amazing...

Second - I agree that is National Geographic's call about what they want
to publish or not, and is only fair to participants to tell them up
front what to expect. While the tone of the piece may be a bit snarky,
it probably was not the most snarky thing said on the internet on
whatever day it happened to be published.

The closest I ever got to National Geographic was the web supplement for
National Geographic Explorer -

http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngexplorer/0509/articles/gallery_1.html

They cropped the photo in a way that I don't think improved it, but then
they didn't over sharpen it like I did for my website:

http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/new/IMGP1690.htm

- MCC





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Re: PESO - Happy Time

2012-06-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Brian.

And thanks to everyone else who looked and commented.

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
Sent: June 1, 2012 6/1/12
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Subject: Re: PESO - Happy Time


Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:

 One of my favourite restaurant names and signage. The light was  
 quite harsh that day so I opted for a high-key look:

  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/05/happy-time.html?m=0

 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.



I really like the way you've processed this.  It really suits the subject.



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Re: Nice message from NatGeo

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
Quite an honor, Mark. Your crop is obviously much better. 
Paul
On Jun 1, 2012, at 11:29 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 Mark the both look fine - I dont understand their crop, either, tho...
 
 way to go!
 
 ann
 
 On 6/1/2012 22:44, Mark C wrote:
 On 6/1/2012 2:28 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
 If most of us are honest with ourselves, we'd have to admit that we'd
 be delighted if an image of ours was discovered or requested by
 National Geographic magazine. You may think it will never happen, but
 it is happening right now with some of my son-in-law's work. He didn't
 come to them. They came to him. No idea if they discovered him through
 Flickr, or Getty, or Alamy or his personal blog
 www.bigstormpicture.com, but the point is that anyone could have this
 happen to them.
 
 First off - those are some damn impressive shots on your son-in-law's
 website! I've never seen weather like that except in CGI movies! Amazing...
 
 Second - I agree that is National Geographic's call about what they want
 to publish or not, and is only fair to participants to tell them up
 front what to expect. While the tone of the piece may be a bit snarky,
 it probably was not the most snarky thing said on the internet on
 whatever day it happened to be published.
 
 The closest I ever got to National Geographic was the web supplement for
 National Geographic Explorer -
 
 http://magma.nationalgeographic.com/ngexplorer/0509/articles/gallery_1.html
 
 They cropped the photo in a way that I don't think improved it, but then
 they didn't over sharpen it like I did for my website:
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/galleries/new/IMGP1690.htm
 
 - MCC
 
 
 
 
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RE: PESO: Thai Poutine

2012-06-01 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Where are the French fries? How can it be poutine without fries?

Nice shot though and it does look yummy.

I feared that when I went vegan I'd eaten my last poutine, but there's a place 
on Queen West here in Toronto called Poutini's that sells vegan poutine. Not 
quite as good as the real thing but still pretty damned delicious imho.

Cruelty-free eating doesn't have to mean boring.

;-)

Cheers,
frank

What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- 
Christopher Hitchens

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From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com
Sent: June 1, 2012 6/1/12
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Subject: PESO: Thai Poutine

No, I’m not kidding; check it out at
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/-big/IMG_0067.jpg.html

Context: http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/05/31/Thai-Poutine

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Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-01 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/1/2012 10:42 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Bob Sullivanrf.sulli...@gmail.com  wrote:


Think Pentax Forum is a competitor who has vacuumed lots of

Yeah, they suck.


When they don't blow.

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