Re: geso: Save the TaTas
On 23 July 2012 18:01, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Portraits of motorcycle riders before a 100 mile ride to raise money for breast cancer research. Comments welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/ Good set Don. I particularly like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599502782/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ A super portrait of an interesting face. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Walk on the Beach
On 22 July 2012 21:46, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Kind of falls into the I don't know why I like it but I do category. http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/07/a-walk-on-beach_22.html Hope you like it, too. Comments always welcome. cheers, frank I like it too Frank. Great diagonal composition. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012-UK PDMLers
On 23/7/12, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ Lovely set of pics Christine - I'm sorry I haven't done something similar yet for London - hopefully soon! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Loyal Kitsch
On 24 July 2012 02:27, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up. I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated. Rick When Kitsch veers towards pure bad taste! Well seen. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - GoPro Test
On 23/7/12, kwal...@peoplepc.com, discombobulated, unleashed: They're pretty neat little cameras ! I've had mine for awhile but have only used it for an hour long sled dog race. Did you get any bells whistles for it? At the moment, just a wifi-bacpac with the remote. The iPhone app isn't out til late August apparently, so remote viewing on the phone isn't an option...just yet. Next accessory will be the proper dive housing, as the waterproof housings are only really meant for splash and surf - underwater images are affected by poor focus due to the existing housing's lens. I need this as good pics underwater are crucial for me. I already have a good selection of mounts and grips, mostly manfrotto. Never know what it's going on next! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
On 23/7/12, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Delightful! This is wonderful: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300424_large.html -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Embedded Programming
I bought one a few weeks ago and did some basic stuff with it, but have put it down and not picked it up again because things are too busy. I ran into a problem with some of the colour-coded components in that I'm colourblind, and don't know what's what! When I get the time I will build a solar wind chime so I don't have to be outside to hear it. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Doug Franklin Sent: 24 July 2012 05:14 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Embedded Programming Just for giggles, anyone on the list interested in playing with Arduino stuff? I've got one running a 9-axis position/rate capture system. I'm trying to get GPS working with it, but either I'm an idiot or I have a broken integration or a broken GPS receiver. But I'll fix it ... or metaphorically beat on someone until they send me a replacement. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X10 sensor replacement saga
Got my X10 back yesterday, with a new sensor installed. Tested it and no white orbs! Interestingly it is my camera with a new sensor physically installed, with paperwork to prove in case I ever sell it. I noted that some US users were receiving new cameras in exchange instead of actually having a new sensor placed in their existing unit, and these were coming back to them with serial numbers starting '2nn' instead of '1nn'. My serial number hasn't changed which i am delighted with. It's my camera back again :) Hopefully I will get time to post some pics soon. Busy week! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Loyal Kitsch
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up. I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg Kitsch indeed! It's still like that - a lot of bunting and flags are still up, presumably so that it encourages our team in the games, or frightens the foreigners. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Subash terrific gallery, Bob. loved the holy island ones, especially katy walking across australia not bad prose too... :) Deathless, mate. That's what my prose is - deathless. Thanks! B On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:41:07 +0100 Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Very nice. I liked the clouds. I know who Kylie is, but who is Jason? Australian manhood personified http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpdzS0CY8M B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Embedded Programming
On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Just for giggles, anyone on the list interested in playing with Arduino stuff? I've got one running a 9-axis position/rate capture system. I'm trying to get GPS working with it, but either I'm an idiot or I have a broken integration or a broken GPS receiver. But I'll fix it ... or metaphorically beat on someone until they send me a replacement. I haven't played with the Arduino itself, but I have done some work with a very similar system. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's Back yard sunflowers
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nice pics. Grace and I tried a couple of times to grow some sunflowers, but critters kept eating them, either rabbits or chipmunks I think. They never got more than 6 inches tall. Paul That seems to be a problem here as well. I now grow them in containers and put them in the garage over night untiul they get big. Seems to help but they do get the odd one still Dave On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm with frank Cheers, Christine On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:10 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: By far prefer the one with Eric. That's a great shot! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: July 23, 2012 7/23/12 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca, butt...@mmm.ca, Harry Bolton bolt...@mmm.ca Subject: Peso's Back yard sunflowers I have 6 sunflowers that germinated this year, and i thought i better get some shots before the squirrels cut the heads off. This one is from some 2008 seeds i salvaged from a public school whilst doing bus safety a few years back. I think they have run their course and germination results are poor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16159213 with Eric http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16159232 With out Eric Dave K-5 DA F 50-20 -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Handbag Hound
Great shot, good DOF here Dave On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162916 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we accepted humbly and with thanks. We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave them beer, yea even unto fish. And chips in abundant profusion. And strawberries and clotted cream. And they saw that they were good. And they left, and wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land. Yea, verily we wept as we remembered Darrel. And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Top set of images and complements Christine's gallery nicely. I really like this: P0300464_large.html and this: P0300424_large.html -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Loyal Kitsch
Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up.nbsp; I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg Well spotted. Perhaps it's being held over for the Games. I can see it as a prominent feature of the opening ceremony, which is bound to be kitsch-overload. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
What a great way to start the day. Thanks, Bob! On 7/24/2012 6:19 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bob W p...@web-options.com: We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we accepted humbly and with thanks. We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave them beer, yea even unto fish. And chips in abundant profusion. And strawberries and clotted cream. And they saw that they were good. And they left, and wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land. Yea, verily we wept as we remembered Darrel. And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Top set of images and complements Christine's gallery nicely. I really like this: P0300464_large.html and this: P0300424_large.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X10 sensor replacement saga
I got a new X10 with a 21... serial number. Those sending it in now are getting just the new sensor. I assume that Fuji USA wasn't comfortable with doing the replacement initially so they just swapped cameras. I'm pleased the new sensor doesn't appear to have lost none of the IQ of the original when correcting for the orbs. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote: Got my X10 back yesterday, with a new sensor installed. Tested it and no white orbs! Interestingly it is my camera with a new sensor physically installed, with paperwork to prove in case I ever sell it. I noted that some US users were receiving new cameras in exchange instead of actually having a new sensor placed in their existing unit, and these were coming back to them with serial numbers starting '2nn' instead of '1nn'. My serial number hasn't changed which i am delighted with. It's my camera back again :) Hopefully I will get time to post some pics soon. Busy week! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Exercise Station
I use our gym a lot but it's free and full mostly of folks I know. On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:43 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I too prefer what exercise I get to be in terms of just getting out-side and doing stuff, but having a gym available is not like high school gym class. And thank god for that! My doctor tells me I need to do some kind of weight training. To do that, I have a choice between having to buy weights or using someone else's weights (i.e. a gym). Do I want a bunch of equipment I'm not going to use cluttering up my house, or do I want it cluttering up someone's gym? Especially since the gym has someone to assist me using the equipment without hurting myself. Which in turn means I might actually use it after all. Some of us need all the positive reinforcement we can get, and that's one of the things you're paying for at the gym. And since you ARE paying them, they can't treat you like high school gym class. From: frank theriault Me, I can't stand gyms. I think it stems from traumatic experiences as a skinny, geeky, picked on youth in high school gym class. I'm still skinny, but I don't think I'm geeky, yet I still stay away from gyms. I like to be out in the real world, which is why cycling works so well for me. Couldn't stand a stationary bike, I don't think. Thanks to all who commented! cheers, frank On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 4:08 AM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 21, 2012, at 3:21 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Treadmills are for when you *have* to exercise and it's pouring down rain outside. Meh, that's what lightweight Gore Tex jackets are for. Harden up! ;) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
An entertaining set. But: It is not very gentlemanlike to speak about your superioroty http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0010499_large.html Real gentlemanness goes without saying. -- MaritimTim My private photo blog: http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ My photo class blog: http://z-fotokurs.blogspot.com/ To err is human to arr is pirate 2012/7/23 Bob W p...@web-options.com: We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we accepted humbly and with thanks. We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave them beer, yea even unto fish. And chips in abundant profusion. And strawberries and clotted cream. And they saw that they were good. And they left, and wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land. Yea, verily we wept as we remembered Darrel. And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Embedded Programming
It is on my to do list, but so far all I have done is buy a book. I want to look at replacing some of the systems in my Jobo processor as they are getting a little flaky. It is all pretty simple stuff so even an electronics dunce like me should be able to wrk it out. Paul On 24/07/2012, at 2:13 PM, Doug Franklin wrote: Just for giggles, anyone on the list interested in playing with Arduino stuff? I've got one running a 9-axis position/rate capture system. I'm trying to get GPS working with it, but either I'm an idiot or I have a broken integration or a broken GPS receiver. But I'll fix it ... or metaphorically beat on someone until they send me a replacement. -- Doug Lefty Franklin NutDriver Racing http://NutDriver.org Facebook NutDriver Racing Sponsored by Murphy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Handbag Hound
Sweet, and a welcome relief from cat images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162916 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
From: Bob W From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Very nice. I liked the clouds. I know who Kylie is, but who is Jason? Australian manhood personified http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpdzS0CY8M Oh, is that who that is? I was looking for the Cascades original 1963 Rhythm of the Rain on YouTube a while back and for some reason it kept wanting to serve up his lame cover instead. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Article on diffraction limited
Larry (I believe) most recently was asking questions about diffraction limited. The latest issue of On Landscape has an article that might prove enlightening. It is making the case that diffraction is only part of the story. The two cameras in question are both full frame (since sensor size is also part of the equation). How the coming Pentax full frame does in this regard is one of the big unknowns that I'm looking forward to learning more about. http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/diffraction-limited/ -- The key to seeing the world's soul, and in the process wakening one's own, is to get over the confusion by which we think that fact is real and imagination an illusion. It is the other way around. -Thomas Moore, Original Self -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ -- The key to seeing the world's soul, and in the process wakening one's own, is to get over the confusion by which we think that fact is real and imagination an illusion. It is the other way around. -Thomas Moore, Original Self -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 23/7/12, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ Delightful! This is wonderful: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300424_large.html Darrel's caption: Oh, thank ye gods of Lindisfarne! It was an amazing place. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Subash wrote: terrific gallery, Bob. loved the holy island ones, especially katy walking across australia not bad prose too... :) To me Bob's photos demonstrate what it means to make a picture. After we all crossed a bit of dunes, we were greeted by a seemingly never ending beach, leaving just the 6 of us, beach, sky, and water--that's all there was-- and yet Bob was able to make really dynamic pictures, catching people just at the right moment and position. When Chris Mitchell posts his work, you'll see another great eye at work as well I had mentioned to the UK PDMLers that I normally shoot alone and that I was a little nervous to shoot with other photographers, but in the end I loved it and found it helpful and instructive when shooting the same subject. Katy across Austraila http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300447_large.html Katy puddle jumping http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300436_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012-UK PDMLers
Thanks, Cotty. No apologies necessary. Take your time. I'm moving a little slow here too with the pics. Cheers, Christine On Jul 24, 2012, at 1:45 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 23/7/12, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ Lovely set of pics Christine - I'm sorry I haven't done something similar yet for London - hopefully soon! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Embedded Programming
on 2012-07-23 22:13 Doug Franklin wrote Just for giggles, anyone on the list interested in playing with Arduino stuff? I've got one running a 9-axis position/rate capture system. I'm trying to get GPS working with it, but either I'm an idiot or I have a broken integration or a broken GPS receiver. But I'll fix it ... or metaphorically beat on someone until they send me a replacement. funny you should mention it; i've been curious about it for a few years, and a friend who builds drone helicopters has been using it, but i had my first hands-on experience at this Arduino workshop: http://www.bmoca.org/2012/04/arduinosensor-workshop-with-sparkfun/ i was more interested in the Max workshop that followed but i found it a lot of fun using Arduino with a Danger Shield (a simple input device with sliders and buttons); first we used Processing (a Java IDE for controlling Arduino) but we still had the Arduino hardware for the Max session; i hacked together a mixer/masher for live and canned video with delay and distortion effects — immediate gratification among the fantastic live A/V performers who attended and performed before the workshop i was especially struck by Sue-C: http://www.sue-c.net/ her work is hard to describe, but involves moving things around on a light table below a video macro camera; the results are projected live; at the workshop she said she'd like to use Arduino with robot hands so she can effectively increase the number of fingers she has -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso's Back yard sunflowers
We have 'volunteers' that have grown under the bird feeder filled with sunflower seeds. But none this year. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:52 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Nice pics. Grace and I tried a couple of times to grow some sunflowers, but critters kept eating them, either rabbits or chipmunks I think. They never got more than 6 inches tall. Paul That seems to be a problem here as well. I now grow them in containers and put them in the garage over night untiul they get big. Seems to help but they do get the odd one still Dave On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:52 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: I'm with frank Cheers, Christine On Jul 23, 2012, at 4:10 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: By far prefer the one with Eric. That's a great shot! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: July 23, 2012 7/23/12 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net, Petch Dianne dianne.pe...@yahoo.com, Barbara Brooks bbaro...@gmail.com, Darryl Button butto...@mmm.ca, butt...@mmm.ca, Harry Bolton bolt...@mmm.ca Subject: Peso's Back yard sunflowers I have 6 sunflowers that germinated this year, and i thought i better get some shots before the squirrels cut the heads off. This one is from some 2008 seeds i salvaged from a public school whilst doing bus safety a few years back. I think they have run their course and germination results are poor. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16159213 with Eric http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16159232 With out Eric Dave K-5 DA F 50-20 -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Handbag Hound
Nice, even if it is a dog ;-) On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Sweet, and a welcome relief from cat images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162916 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Loyal Kitsch
She's taller than I thought. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up.nbsp; I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg Well spotted. Perhaps it's being held over for the Games. I can see it as a prominent feature of the opening ceremony, which is bound to be kitsch-overload. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Some photos (GESO)
All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
I've refrained from commenting on Bob's photos, but Christine is right. Those are fine photos of what could be limiting scenery (no offense intended). It's really great to see some excellent photographers working the same scenes. Wish I was there... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Subash wrote: terrific gallery, Bob. loved the holy island ones, especially katy walking across australia not bad prose too... :) To me Bob's photos demonstrate what it means to make a picture. After we all crossed a bit of dunes, we were greeted by a seemingly never ending beach, leaving just the 6 of us, beach, sky, and water--that's all there was-- and yet Bob was able to make really dynamic pictures, catching people just at the right moment and position. When Chris Mitchell posts his work, you'll see another great eye at work as well I had mentioned to the UK PDMLers that I normally shoot alone and that I was a little nervous to shoot with other photographers, but in the end I loved it and found it helpful and instructive when shooting the same subject. Katy across Austraila http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300447_large.html Katy puddle jumping http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300436_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
All nicely composed. Good, all around, camera work. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: Some photos (GESO) All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia http://www.robertstech.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
Mark, Dr. Lisa doing Wildcat with a broken arm! You are a madman, not just a mountain goat on crack! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ There was never any statement that the Leica digital rangefinder would work well with all lenses. Creating an interchangeable camera than can work with MOST existing lenses and that can obtain excellent quality is amazing, something that people who understand digital imaging systems marvel at. The issue is the one that most of the SLR community pooh-poohs as being a non-issue: the PRIMARY difference between film and digital sensor as recording medium is the sensitivity to the direction of light falling on the sensor. Due to SLR mount registers and the fact that most DSLRs use a smaller format sensor, the issue is largely under control. The CV Heliar 15 and Heliar 12 lenses are two of the MOST difficult lenses to make work well with a digital sensor, due to both their extremely short focal length and the specific optical design they use. The primary nodal point is very close to the imaging plane, the worst case for a digital sensor, which causes the color shifting and vignetting you see. People willing to spend the money for a Leica M9 understand this if they have any sense, and they either choose lenses more appropriate for the camera or make use of other tools (CornerFix is one of them) that do the appropriate post-capture massaging of the raw data as required. Leica only supports their own lenses with the in-camera correction processing ... some of those corrections work well enough with the CV and Zeiss lenses, but in some cases they do not. (The Ricoh GXR M-mount camera unit, having been designed for an arbitrary range of lenses mostly not their own, AND with a smaller sensor, has in it a vignetting and color shift processor that works on the raw data and allows you to apply the appropriate corrections in camera. They are saved to both raw and JPEG files.) Put the Leica lenses on the M9 that Leica has created optimizations for, or use CornerFix, and the quality is breathtaking ... medium format in many respects. You can't get that by using just any old lens, designed for a different recording medium, on the camera. I have tested my lenses extensively with the M9 and the Ricoh GXR-M. I find that some of my favorites, like the Skopar 28 and 21, need almost no correction on the GXR-M but require that I use CornerFix on the M9. Yet once I pass them through a CornerFix optimization, the M9 exposures are just plain amazing in quality. Trade-offs ... it's inconvenient at least. But having seen what it can do, and appreciating it, much of what I once thought was excellent performance on the SLRs is only satisfactory. Godfrey - godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com - godfreydigio...@me.com Announcing Ways Together .. my new photo book! See it on Blurb at http://www.blurb.com/user/GDGPhoto Come to the reception and book-signing: ModernBook Gallery 49 Geary Ave, San Francisco, CA August 2nd, 5:30-7:30 pm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
Dang, Leica owners are touchy bunch! (Conclusion reached from one data point). :) Seriously, that is good info Godfrey. Thanks for taking the time to share it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:32, Darren Addy wrote: Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ I've been trying to get this to load, on and off, for the past hour. No-go. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:32, Darren Addy wrote: Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ I've been trying to get this to load, on and off, for the past hour. No-go. Same here Dave -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: I've been trying to get this to load, on and off, for the past hour. No-go. Not loading for me now, either. They apparently have issues. -- The key to seeing the world's soul, and in the process wakening one's own, is to get over the confusion by which we think that fact is real and imagination an illusion. It is the other way around. -Thomas Moore, Original Self -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012-UK PDMLers
Quoting Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ That's a great gallery - nice to see some of the UK contingent. This one of Katy is really good: IMGP3384_large.html ...and this one is good fun: IMGP3436_large.html When are you heading downunder? -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
Welldone gallery. I like ferns in granite. Dave On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: More of our visitors
My turn... We had a fantastic time with Christine and Darrel - generous, delightful and well behaved guests they were. Here's a gallery with a few images from each of the days they spent with us and the other PDMLers once they left London and Cambridge: MK - a short trip round the Grand Union Canal and to Willen Church Packwood - The National Trust house. We went there by fortunate accident - the house we wanted to go to was closed because of flooding (yes Rick, we have had quite a bit of rain here) and Packwood was a lovely place. So we did all right. Housesteads - a Roman fort on Hadrian's wall where we met up with Mike Wilson Coastal Route - a trip along the Northumbria coast organised by our native guide, Mike. Holy Island - Lindisfarne The Penshaw Monument and a few shots of Durham Then Karin and I said our fond farewells and drove home with a tear in our eye... http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/ChristineDarrel1/ There's a gallery called Karin - she didn't want to post here on her own, but as it's there she's quite happy for you to have a look if you like. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dang, Leica owners are touchy bunch! (Conclusion reached from one data point). :) Seriously, that is good info Godfrey. Thanks for taking the time to share it. LOL ... Nothing touchy about my response, Darren. Understanding is everything to me. I spent almost a year researching the M9 before plunking down 6+ big ones for it, so I knew what to expect. Which doesn't really prepare you for the reality of actually using your lenses on it anyway, but it's as good as you can get without having one in your hands. When you spend $80,000 and buy a medium format digital camera system, don't be surprised at how difficult it is to use and obtain top notch results with ... !! But then, once you learn it, the results will simply make your head spin and pix from everything else look like a camera phone took them. Charles :: if you have trouble getting to the site, I can easily post you a couple of calibration tests from the Skopar lenses this evening. They're not quite as extreme as the Heliar 15 or 12 would be, but they show the same essence. I saw similar issues with the 21 on Paul D's Sony NEX 5 last year when we tested it ... nothing unusual when using lens designs out of scope of the sensor design. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Loyal Kitsch
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Brian Walters Quoting Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up.nbsp; I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg Well spotted. Perhaps it's being held over for the Games. I can see it as a prominent feature of the opening ceremony, which is bound to be kitsch-overload. there's going to be a very special reunion at the opening ceremony: http://www.web-options.com/jpgr.jpg B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
I can't get it to load either. Cheers, Christine On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:32, Darren Addy wrote: Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ I've been trying to get this to load, on and off, for the past hour. No-go. -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim Øsleby An entertaining set. Thanks! But: It is not very gentlemanlike to speak about your superioroty http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0010499_large.html Real gentlemanness goes without saying. You're right. I shall do the decent thing. (Removes service pistol from desk drawer and shoots self) B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
Sorry guys. I just went back to the other computer I use at work and the page loaded for me. It was *then* that I noticed that this article is in the category of Needs Free Subscription. (This site has some articles publicly accessible, some that require the Free Subscription, and some that require a paid subscription.) You register (get the Free Subscription access) here: http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/wp-login.php?action=register Hope this helps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Canon mirorless?
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I just got an email from BH about the new Canon mirrorless APS sensor bodies. It'll be interesting to read Miserere's and Godfrey's takes on them. My take is uninteresting at best: I have zero interest. Although I have owned Canon equipment from time to time and found it generally competent, I've never been a big fan of their lenses (they lack something I like, whatever that might be) and their bodies don't thrill me either. I also have no interest in yet another system of electronically-operable-only lenses. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: geso: Save the TaTas
Thanks frank. I wondered if someone would spot the irony of the smokers. Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:14:20 + (UTC) From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: \Pentax-Discuss Mail List\ pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: geso: Save the TaTas Message-ID: 853577340.7922.1343078070922.javamail.se...@ap6.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Great set! Especially like 102650. Lots of smokers for a cancer ride. cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Sent: July 23, 2012 7/23/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: geso: Save the TaTas Portraits of motorcycle riders before a 100 mile ride to raise money for breast cancer research. Comments welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/ -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
Beautiful! Excellent images, Mark. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
Thanks Bob, and thanks to Christine for the kind words. We've all been looking forward to posting our galleries so that we could hear people's reactions to the different ways of photographing the same subjects. I've found it fascinating to see what attracts different photographers' attention - and what we all rushed at - but what is most interesting is just how interesting they all are, and how good the results have been. You must make sure you look at Chris and Karin's shots too - they are excellent. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sullivan Sent: 24 July 2012 17:21 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Visitors I've refrained from commenting on Bob's photos, but Christine is right. Those are fine photos of what could be limiting scenery (no offense intended). It's really great to see some excellent photographers working the same scenes. Wish I was there... Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote: On Jul 23, 2012, at 10:11 PM, Subash wrote: terrific gallery, Bob. loved the holy island ones, especially katy walking across australia not bad prose too... :) To me Bob's photos demonstrate what it means to make a picture. After we all crossed a bit of dunes, we were greeted by a seemingly never ending beach, leaving just the 6 of us, beach, sky, and water-- that's all there was-- and yet Bob was able to make really dynamic pictures, catching people just at the right moment and position. When Chris Mitchell posts his work, you'll see another great eye at work as well I had mentioned to the UK PDMLers that I normally shoot alone and that I was a little nervous to shoot with other photographers, but in the end I loved it and found it helpful and instructive when shooting the same subject. Katy across Austraila http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300447_large.html Katy puddle jumping http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0300436_large.html Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
This will show you a similar thing: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/Skopar_28_calibrations.jpg That's the Voigtländer Color Skopar 28mm f/3.5 on the M9. The screen capture shows the raw imaging vs CornerFix corrected imaging in pairs as the lens is stepped from f/4 to f/16. Top two rows show in-camera corrections with two of the Leica lens correction settings, bottom row I've turn the corrections off. CornerFix cleans up the imaging issues nicely in all three cases. Godfrey On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry guys. I just went back to the other computer I use at work and the page loaded for me. It was *then* that I noticed that this article is in the category of Needs Free Subscription. (This site has some articles publicly accessible, some that require the Free Subscription, and some that require a paid subscription.) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012-UK PDMLers
On Jul 24, 2012, at 6:14 AM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ That's a great gallery - nice to see some of the UK contingent. This one of Katy is really good: IMGP3384_large.html ...and this one is good fun: IMGP3436_large.html When are you heading downunder? Soon I hope. You don't know how bad I want to go. We've been talking about it quite a bit, so maybe not too far away, but we do have to work the budget. It would great to meet the Australin PDMLers. I've always greatly admired the work from you guys. Would be fun to shoot with you guys. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
Just a follow-up. That On Landscape site has very confusing navigation (in that you don't really know if/what you are missing if you are not logged-in). When I logged in (with my free subscription credentials) the link I originally sent turned into a 9 page (printed) article. This whole issue is much bigger than I initially realized when I originally posted. I had not been previously aware of the (FREE) cornerfix software, and the fact that you can get results on par with Capture One from it is very *interesting*. I'd love to get some feedback from people who have tried using cornerfix with their Pentax DSLRs. The fact that we can easily put so many different legacy lenses on our Pentax DSLRs (perhaps inviting this problem in our RAW files) makes this potentially VERY helpful for Pentax owners. Free cornerfix software download link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cornerfix/ This is a bigger issue (apparently) on larger sensor cameras, but if nothing else is good to know for when the Pentax FF is in our grubby little paws. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On 24 July 2012 19:59, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Just a follow-up. That On Landscape site has very confusing navigation (in that you don't really know if/what you are missing if you are not logged-in). When I logged in (with my free subscription credentials) the link I originally sent turned into a 9 page (printed) article. This whole issue is much bigger than I initially realized when I originally posted. We're currently in the middle of a redesign - the website has grown substantially since the original. I had not been previously aware of the (FREE) cornerfix software, and the fact that you can get results on par with Capture One from it is very *interesting*. I'd love to get some feedback from people who have tried using cornerfix with their Pentax DSLRs. The fact that we can easily put so many different legacy lenses on our Pentax DSLRs (perhaps inviting this problem in our RAW files) makes this potentially VERY helpful for Pentax owners. Free cornerfix software download link: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cornerfix/ I'd love to know what sort of results you get! Tim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: For you, dear flickr-maniacs
Dave, Were you talking about Sean Bonner or about Marissa Mayer? (Or Flickr?) Igor Mon Jul 23 07:57:23 EDT 2012 David J Brooks wrote: One of my graduates:-) Dave On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Igor Roshchin str at komkon.org wrote: (my apologies for such a playful greeting) If you haven't seen this yet: http://www.flickr.com/dearinternet For full detail, read this: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/07/flickr-responds-to-internet-outcry/ Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
on 2012-07-24 12:06 Darren Addy wrote Sorry guys. I just went back to the other computer I use at work and the page loaded for me. It was *then* that I noticed that this article is in the category of Needs Free Subscription. hmmm, it loaded for me without signing up -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Loyal Kitsch, Message-ID:
Great photo Rick. It captures that particular kitsch that Brits come up with for Royal events. I was in England before the Charles Diana wedding and scored a genuine royal wedding souvenir rubber Those who speak King's English could explain why my wife used it for years. Loved the photo, thanks for the memory. Message: 12 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Loyal Kitsch Message-ID: 1343093230.8265.yahoomail...@web162105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up.? I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for, this kind of performance
From: Darren Addy Sorry guys. I just went back to the other computer I use at work and the page loaded for me. It was *then* that I noticed that this article is in the category of Needs Free Subscription. (This site has some articles publicly accessible, some that require the Free Subscription, and some that require a paid subscription.) You register (get the Free Subscription access) here: http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/wp-login.php?action=register Hope this helps. I don't know. I _do_NOT_ have a free subscription to On Landscape and both links - Lens Cast Calibration and Diffraction Limited? opened for me with no problems. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On 24 July 2012 20:38, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: hmmm, it loaded for me without signing up I just made it free so people can see it :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photos by Alexandr Petrosian - St.Petersburg, .ru
From: Larry Colen On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I thought some PDMLers might enjoy this set of interesting photos. The author is Alexandr Petrosian from St.Petersburg, Russia. From what I can recognize, most (or maybe all) photos are taken in St.Petersburg. http://prophotos.ru/photographers/7517-aleksandr-petrosyan/images There is some very nice work in that set. I particularly liked the one with the spires and the moon. The man does like his colors vivid. And a couple of cat photos even what's his name might like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Jul 24, 2012, at 13:59, Darren Addy wrote: Just a follow-up. That On Landscape site has very confusing navigation (in that you don't really know if/what you are missing if you are not logged-in). When I logged in (with my free subscription credentials) the link I originally sent turned into a 9 page (printed) article. This whole issue is much bigger than I initially realized when I originally posted. For me I just got a blank screen, so navigation was hardly the issue! -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:06:37PM +0100, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim ?sleby An entertaining set. Thanks! But: It is not very gentlemanlike to speak about your superioroty http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0010499_large.html Real gentlemanness goes without saying. You're right. I shall do the decent thing. (Removes service pistol from desk drawer and shoots self) What shutter speed do you use? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photos by Alexandr Petrosian - St.Petersburg, .ru
Wonderful images of a spectacular city. I really must find a way to visit there again. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry Colen On Jul 23, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I thought some PDMLers might enjoy this set of interesting photos. The author is Alexandr Petrosian from St.Petersburg, Russia. From what I can recognize, most (or maybe all) photos are taken in St.Petersburg. http://prophotos.ru/photographers/7517-aleksandr-petrosyan/images There is some very nice work in that set. I particularly liked the one with the spires and the moon. The man does like his colors vivid. And a couple of cat photos even what's his name might like. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
Very nice collection of pictures. It reminds me of my college days up in Cow Hampshah. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Some photos (GESO)
Some very nice work there Mark. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Subject: Some photos (GESO) All the work on the PDML book has kept me from putting any new photos of my own on line. Until now. Here are some shots from our trip to New Hampshire in June: http://www.robertstech.com/galleries/nh2012/index.html -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso: Save the TaTas
Chistine, thanks for the time to point out your favs. The woman with the cigaret was one I almost left out as I think I just caught her at a bad moment. The sunglasses made a convenient photo prop but man it was full sun brightness! Many Sturgis riders come thru my town on the way but seldom stop here. There is another big rally in a just north of me called ABATE in July the week after the 4th. Grab a bike and come on out. Message: 11 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 20:26:26 -0500 From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: geso: Save the TaTas Message-ID: af5381e3-e0bf-426e-ae0c-274311b64...@caguila.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Don: That's a fun set. I think the last portrait, #2782 is the strongest, with the first, #8990 following, though I'd like to see a bit of catch light to the eyes in the first portrait, but that's a minor nit as compared to all other strong qualities of the frame. To me, those two are real winners. I like #0278 for the signage, Save the TA TAs, but the reflections in the woman's glasses are less interesting than the reflections in the man's glasses, which add to the photo. #1276 is nice and the reflections in the glasses work really well there, especially the right lens. I want to like the woman with the cig, number 6798, but for some reason it isn't working right, pose, attitude, something isn't quite there for me. The attitude is a little flat though it seems to want to ooze attitude, but doesn't. In number 1640 the man's headband says Sturgis, Black Hills Rally. That's a big rally. I believe Jay Leno used to do that rally. If I ever get a motorcycle again, for sure I'm going to do that rally. Enjoyed your set. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso: Save the TaTas
Chris thanks for the comment. That photo made the project for me although he was the only one who didn't seem thrilled about the whole thing. Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:13:38 +0100 From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: geso: Save the TaTas Message-ID: capxfea6y4wtj-h_gdyhbd3hevcpnj_acuuyz3zi7qqnlr2h...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 23 July 2012 18:01, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Portraits of motorcycle riders before a 100 mile ride to raise money for breast cancer research. Comments welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/ Good set Don. I particularly like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599502782/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ A super portrait of an interesting face. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso: Save the TaTas
It's great set. Lots of really earthy portraits. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Chris thanks for the comment. That photo made the project for me although he was the only one who didn't seem thrilled about the whole thing. Message: 2 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 07:13:38 +0100 From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: geso: Save the TaTas Message-ID: capxfea6y4wtj-h_gdyhbd3hevcpnj_acuuyz3zi7qqnlr2h...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 23 July 2012 18:01, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Portraits of motorcycle riders before a 100 mile ride to raise money for breast cancer research. Comments welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/ Good set Don. I particularly like this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599502782/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ A super portrait of an interesting face. Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Visitors
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Francis On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 07:06:37PM +0100, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tim ?sleby An entertaining set. Thanks! But: It is not very gentlemanlike to speak about your superioroty http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/content/P0010499_large.html Real gentlemanness goes without saying. You're right. I shall do the decent thing. (Removes service pistol from desk drawer and shoots self) What shutter speed do you use? .38/200 B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. Igor Mon Jul 16 14:25:34 EDT 2012 Larry Colen wrote: On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: What's more offensive than drinking sugary soda in NYC? Dancing gleefully while you wait for a train. http://now.msn.com/couple-arrested-for-appalling-crime-of-dancing-in-public I suspect that the key ingredient for the arrest was the camera... ;-) I don't know. They might have been doing 20's charleston, and you know how rowdy that can get. Tandem 30's charleston is bad enough, but when someone is doing 20's, and whips out a scarecrow, bad things can happen. Someone might lose an eye or something. Actually, that's written in the NY Post article: We brought out the camera, and that.s when they called backup. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/waltz_the_charge_officer_8jQ7kbvZwVhaU4PxNi917K Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Art Drivel
oops, I mean Art Drive! Some nicely painted cars here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18874460 I like the Grande Odalisque - it serves as a reminder that you should never pimp your car in Ingres*. B *that's a joke in a French accent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Imgur Photo Collection 2012
Some interesting shots. http://imgur.com/a/YAPNn Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Imgur Photo Collection 2012
Thanks for posting, Dan. Fun to see the mt Rainer shot. I have such fond memories of Rainer--family vacations and such. Cheers, Christine On Jul 24, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Some interesting shots. http://imgur.com/a/YAPNn Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Art Drivel
on 2012-07-24 15:41 Bob W wrote oops, I mean Art Drive! Some nicely painted cars here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18874460 it takes a special car to wow me; the Vochol was one such when i saw it in DC in April, and your post inspired me to look it up and learn that it is in Denver right now; though i'm unlikely to go to the airport to see it while it's here, some of you might be passing through: http://vocholdenver.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
On Jul 24, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Tim Parkin wrote: On 24 July 2012 20:38, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: hmmm, it loaded for me without signing up I just made it free so people can see it :-) Thanks Tim. I just scanned through the article, I am afraid that I am beyond the point where I could/would learn the technical use of color (or colour) correction, and so did not look at all the details. I do have a comment though. Scrolling through the story, I could see clear and dramatic differences in the colors. But I find it really hard to do such comparisons in my memory and strongly prefer to look at side by side comparisons. As an assist to old buggers like me, it would be very helpful to have a format which showed the full frame images and then showed side-by-side comparisons of extracts from edges, center, whatever. Back when I read Pop Photography and the like and they published lens tests, that format using a mix of full-frame plus extracted details was quite common. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Exporting LR4 catalogs for older versions of lightroom?
I've got a bunch of pictures that I've processed in LR4. I'd like to make the edits available to a friend using an older version of lightroom, and who already has the raw files. Is this even possible? Larry -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - arrested for appalling crime of dancing in public
On Jul 24, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Larry, it might, but... ... Even in Manhattan, it is not that crowded at midnight. And the NY Post article confirms that: on the nearly empty platform. I apologize if my sarcasm was too subtle. Speaking of dancing bans, all is not bleak and gloomy. I see that Oakland just lifted a dancing ban: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Oakland-drops-ban-on-dance-marathons-3726865.php?cmpid=gplus -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Imgur Photo Collection 2012
Yes they are! -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: OT: Imgur Photo Collection 2012 Some interesting shots. http://imgur.com/a/YAPNn Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exporting LR4 catalogs for older versions of lightroom?
LR4 supports a newer process version than older versions of Lr so even the edit parameters will not make sense to an older version. Your renderings will shift if you change the process version to be compatible with what's available in your friend's version, but you could do that, edit to suit, and then export as DNG with finished renderings. Your friend can then re-import the files and the settings will be imported too, but not the edit history. The most sensible thing to do is to have them update to the latest version, same as yours, and then just hand over a catalog file. The catalog file can then be imported. G On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I've got a bunch of pictures that I've processed in LR4. I'd like to make the edits available to a friend using an older version of lightroom, and who already has the raw files. Is this even possible? -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Another album cover
I've got another photo on a friend's album cover. Granted, the pay was just photo credit and a CD, but the musicians are awesome. Unfortunately, my iMac seems to have stopped reading music CDs. This is the second one in a week it wouldn't read. The use of my photo is also rather subtle, as in hard to see at first: http://solomondouglas.com/buy_Soul_Serenade.html -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exporting LR4 catalogs for older versions of lightroom?
On Jul 24, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The most sensible thing to do is to have them update to the latest version, same as yours, and then just hand over a catalog file. The catalog file can then be imported. That's only sensible if someone has the money for the upgrade. The other possibility is that I just give them my processed copies. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exporting LR4 catalogs for older versions of lightroom?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: That's only sensible if someone has the money for the upgrade. The other possibility is that I just give them my processed copies. I don't know what the expected scope or duration of the project is, but your friend could install LR4 and use it for a 30-day trial period without purchasing it. The LR4 installation will coexist with LR3. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Exporting LR4 catalogs for older versions of lightroom?
On Jul 24, 2012, at 5:03 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: That's only sensible if someone has the money for the upgrade. The other possibility is that I just give them my processed copies. I don't know what the expected scope or duration of the project is, but your friend could install LR4 and use it for a 30-day trial period without purchasing it. The LR4 installation will coexist with LR3. There isn't, so far as I know, a specific project yet. These are pictures from our dojo's annual summer retreat. Beau is a photographer in his own right, and is the dojo uchi deshi, meaning that he lives at the dojo in exchange for doing a lot of work at the dojo. As with many non-profits, there is little spare money either at the dojo, or for those who work for it. When the dust settles, I'll probably give them a copy of my catalog files, just so they have them if/when they need. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Loyal Kitsch, Message-ID:
On Jul 24, 2012, at 12:41 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Great photo Rick. It captures that particular kitsch that Brits come up with for Royal events. I was in England before the Charles Diana wedding and scored a genuine royal wedding souvenir rubber Those who speak King's English could explain why my wife used it for years. Is this the kind of rubber you use when it's wet? Or when you need to rub something out? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
Excellent gallery, Bob. Very different from Christine's, with the same wanderings. In the next week or two I may be getting to pix of our day in York. One thing, though... I don't seem to remember being raised up and exalted. We'll try not to take that personally. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Visitors We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we accepted humbly and with thanks. We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave them beer, yea even unto fish. And chips in abundant profusion. And strawberries and clotted cream. And they saw that they were good. And they left, and wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land. Yea, verily we wept as we remembered Darrel. And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Racing the Rain
There was a lot of rain to race there in Chester, too. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162874size=lg Comments always appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - Gateway Arch In Infrared
http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/07/24/gateway-arch-in-infrared Still with the vacation photos here... It was 110F in the shade when we visited the Gateway arch and the heat was just radiating off the metal framework. I figured that infrared = heat so the shots would be light and airy... Looking at the photos I don't think the heat had much effect, but I had fun. Again with the IR converted K-10D. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012: UK PDMLers
On 7/23/2012 1:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Hope you enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ Exceptionally nice photos there. I'm sure it helps to have such a great bunch of photogenic and cheerful subjects! Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: geso: Save the TaTas
On 7/23/2012 1:01 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: Portraits of motorcycle riders before a 100 mile ride to raise money for breast cancer research. Comments welcomed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/lightbox/ or http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/7599478990/in/set-72157630642002600/ Great collection of portraits here. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Photos by Alexandr Petrosian - St.Petersburg, .ru
On 7/24/2012 12:14 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I thought some PDMLers might enjoy this set of interesting photos. The author is Alexandr Petrosian from St.Petersburg, Russia. From what I can recognize, most (or maybe all) photos are taken in St.Petersburg. http://prophotos.ru/photographers/7517-aleksandr-petrosyan/images Enjoy! Igor Some very solid and cryptic work there. Love the 4 cats photo Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Loyal Kitsch, Message-ID:
The substance called rubber got its name because when rubbed on paper, pencil and ink marks disappeared. So in fact your wife's royal wedding commemorative rubber (which she used for so many years) was performing the function that gave rise to why rubber got called rubber in the first place. I'll bet you didn't know that... The other meaning of rubber which you allude to is much more recent. It only came about in the 1930s. So there you go. What starts out as a photo of a couple of English monarchists comes around to a discussion of condoms. I love pdml! Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com Sent: July 24, 2012 7/24/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: PESO - Loyal Kitsch, Message-ID: Great photo Rick. It captures that particular kitsch that Brits come up with for Royal events. I was in England before the Charles Diana wedding and scored a genuine royal wedding souvenir rubber Those who speak King's English could explain why my wife used it for years. Loved the photo, thanks for the memory. Message: 12 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Loyal Kitsch Message-ID: 1343093230.8265.yahoomail...@web162105.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 We were in the UK the week after the Diamond Jubilee, and the decorations were still up.? I don't know what I can say tactfully about these: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162873size=lg (K-5, DA 16-45) Comments always appreciated. Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - Gateway Arch In Infrared
Mark, Good pictures, but I don't know what the 1st one is. The IR producing white trees really makes those arch images different. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/blog6.php/2012/07/24/gateway-arch-in-infrared Still with the vacation photos here... It was 110F in the shade when we visited the Gateway arch and the heat was just radiating off the metal framework. I figured that infrared = heat so the shots would be light and airy... Looking at the photos I don't think the heat had much effect, but I had fun. Again with the IR converted K-10D. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Thunderbird doing something weird
Thunderbird started acting stupid a couple of days ago. My Thunderbird layout: Folder Pane | Thread Pane - Message Pane Folder Pane shows local folders - Usually has inbox selected Thread Pane shows all the messages I've left in my Inbox (or whatever folder I have it focused on) Message Pane is supposed to show the message I currently have selected After I read an email message in Thunderbird I either drag it into a folder to save or click the delete button to move it to trash. If I delete it, I should get the next message waiting in my inbox and display it in the message pane. In the last couple of days Thunderbird has started dropping the message, losing focus. The message is still there in my inbox, still shows in the Thread Pane, but the message pane goes blank. Anybody know why Thunderbird has started doing this? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: England 2012: UK PDMLers
Lovely indeed. I cannot help really but post this link: http://boris.liberman-family.com/pics/Travel/United%20Kingdom%202005/slides/ISTD_3431.html UK PDMLers are certainly a great bunch! On 7/23/2012 8:06 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Hi Everyone: Here's a quick collection of our wonderfully photogenic UK PDMLers. Hope you enjoy! Cheers, Christine http://www.caguila.com/englandukpdmlers/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: I'd be pretty ticked off if I'd spent this much for this kind of performance
Thanks Tim, for making it available. It opened for me just so. Darren, I doubt that you could find a camera and a system for that matter that were absolutely free of any kind of issue, or problem or something that would make one's life grievous in some manner. Just off top of my head - Nikon D800 were leaking light through the top LCD if I am not mistaken, Canon 1DMk3 had some firmware problems as well or was it also some light leak. Naturally, Pentax K-5 with its problematic sensor just when it started to sell and other problems (ask Paul Stenquist). On the less general note - my DA* 16-50/2.8 is very good optic, but it is soft towards the corners at wide zoom settings. I don't really like that. But I live with that. Ultimately, it seems to me now that Ricoh GXR won me over and I will be migrating to the A12 M-module buying one of those very wide lenses: Voigt 15/4.5 or 12/5.6 - I am not sure just yet which one for my wide angle. My plan is one of these two, 28 mm and 50 mm Ricoh modules (those are equivalent focal lengths, the real ones are 18 and 33 mm respectively) and one of the 50 mm lenses for portraiture. Galia wants now a small camera too, so that I may have to buy another body. Or may be I'd just buy M-K adapter and use my 50/1.2 for 50 mm. I expect to be met with this kind of problems if of smaller (cannot bring myself to use word lesser here) extent due to sensor being APS-C size. Boris On 7/24/2012 5:32 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Not terribly often one gets to bash a Leica (or is it)? Still, if one is gonna spend $7K for a body, one would probably hope for better results than this... http://www.onlandscape.co.uk/2012/07/lens-cast-calibration/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Fuji X10 sensor replacement saga
Great news, Cotty, sir. On 7/24/2012 10:05 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: Got my X10 back yesterday, with a new sensor installed. Tested it and no white orbs! Interestingly it is my camera with a new sensor physically installed, with paperwork to prove in case I ever sell it. I noted that some US users were receiving new cameras in exchange instead of actually having a new sensor placed in their existing unit, and these were coming back to them with serial numbers starting '2nn' instead of '1nn'. My serial number hasn't changed which i am delighted with. It's my camera back again :) Hopefully I will get time to post some pics soon. Busy week! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Visitors
Wonderment and amazement were attained. A chuckle or two were extracted. Strong is the force with you, sir Bob... On 7/23/2012 9:41 PM, Bob W wrote: We were visited by wondrous people from a far land over the Big Water. They came in friendship, bearing trade goods from the City of Winds, which we accepted humbly and with thanks. We raised them up as gods over us, and exalted them, and gave them beer, yea even unto fish. And chips in abundant profusion. And strawberries and clotted cream. And they saw that they were good. And they left, and wailing and gnashing of teeth was heard throughout the land. Yea, verily we wept as we remembered Darrel. And lo, it came to pass that we raised up effigies unto them, even upon the web, and present them unto thee for thine own wonderment and amazement: http://www.web-options.com/CD2012/ B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
