RE: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Bob W]

> On 30 July 2012 16:41, Darren Addy  wrote:
> > These images are purely documentary, but for those of you who enjoy
> > "Ghost Signs" here are two examples from the same building in my home
> > town. Ghost signs painted on chalk brick (like these) tend to show up
> > best when the brick gets wet, and we were fortunate enough to get a
> > decent rain overnight (finally some moisture!) I drive past this
> > building on my way to work every day, but the way the signs were
> > "popping" and the overcast light this morning combined to provide the
> > motivation for me to pull over and get them recorded.
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143598/in/photostream/
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143294/in/photostream/
> >
> > For those interested there is also a Flickr group dedicated to Ghost
> > Signs, which has over 21,000 images:
> > http://www.flickr.com/groups/10285999@N00/
> >
> Thanks for posting Darren. I've always been interested in these.
> Here's one in Galena, Illinois which seems to be multi-layered:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Galena/slides/_IGP2945.html
> 
> And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
> quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
> Heritage to preserve it:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html
> 

here's a well-known one in York:



B


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RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> James King
> 
> 
> Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700:
> 
> > I've got one of those on my trousers.
> 
> What?  You mean you have one one that divides into three pieces and
> extends less than one inch???  You probably shouldn't make a public
> announcement...
> 

oh. I was feeling rather proud of it until then...




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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[David Mann]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

> As for the Olympics - I lost interest years ago.  The amount of public money 
> that gets sunk into over-pampered 'elite' sportspeople in search of 'gold' is 
> sickening, especially when they don't have to repay it (unlike university 
> students who do).  Of course, I'm talking from an Australian perspective.  It 
> may be different elsewhere.

I bet you're feeling a lot worse after the performances this time around.  I'm 
not poking fun as we've had a few of our own too.  I'm actually a little 
jealous of the Aussies for putting so much into their sports.

>From a sporting perspective I love the Olympics.  It's the top of the top 
>competitions, and it's about the only chance I get to see coverage of sports 
>that aren't rugby.  From a commercial and political perspective the Olympics 
>are a complete dogs breakfast.

We don't have a lot of public money being spent on sports, except for the 
rugby.  Mostly athletes have to succeed before they get any funding which seems 
a bit backwards to me.  The athletes themselves don't seem to get much of a 
financial return, although gold medallists find it a lot easier to get 
sponsorship/endorsement deals.

What annoys me about the Olympics at the moment is that the broadcaster who 
owns the rights here is Sky TV.  I think the rules say you have to broadcast at 
least some of it free-to-air so they have one token FTA channel to go with 
about 8 channels on the pay service.  To their credit they're showing a very 
good selection on the free channel but they jump around a lot.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO Keep Moving

[David Mann]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:00 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> After adjusting fine focus for my autofocus lenses, I wanted to exercise the 
> new K5 a bit. Drove into Birmingham to add a pic or two to my "It Happens on 
> Woodward" set, which has been neglected lately. I'm liking this one. K5, DA* 
> 60-250, f5.6, 1/640, ISO 400, 250mm.
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16226393

Is anyone else finding photo.net extremely slow lately?

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Re: OT: London Olympics 2012

[David Mann]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 5:13 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: David Mann
>> 
>> I think they're doing a new Olympic-themed doodle every day at the moment.  
>> I'm getting a table tennis one right now.
>> 
>> Dave
> 
> I only meant to point out that by coincidence, "hockey" happened to be that 
> day's doodle.


Yes I felt a little red-faced about 2 minutes after I'd posted that...

Dave



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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[David Mann]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 5:00 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> If you've got one of those Macs that will allow you to also boot into 
> Windoze, you could copy all the photos you want for your slide show into "My 
> Pictures" and set your screensaver to a slide show. Add a password to the 
> screen saver & your guests won't easily disrupt it.

There's also the option of using Windows within Virtualbox or Parallels, 
although the transitions may stutter a little depending on how much they tax 
the graphics (there's a small speed loss going through a VM).

Dave


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Re: OT - for Cotty - HoryzonHD camera

[David Mann]

On Aug 3, 2012, at 1:31 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

> I just came across this camera:
> http://www.foxtechfpv.com/horyzonhd-1080p-cam-c-121.html
> 
> Cotty, since you are playing with the GoPro camera, you might be 
> interested in looking at this one
> (and it might be of interest to other PDMLers-enthusiasts).
> 
> Here is a review and comparison to GoPro Hero:
> http://www.rcexplorer.se/files/HoryzonHD.html

Contour also make a similar kind of product aimed at sports enthusiasts.  I've 
had a go at winning one in a prize draw a couple of times but I've no idea what 
I'd actually do with one.  Maybe see if I can make videos of my goldfish go 
viral on Youtube.

http://contour.com/

I'd love to have taken one snorkeling on our honeymoon.  I would have got some 
stunning footage of a slightly territorial fish charging right at my face.

Dave



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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

Many thanks, Paul!

I had really high hopes for the second one when I shot it -- just knew 
it was going to be the one keeper of the bunch. But, I agree; the first 
one is much better.


-- Walt

On 8/2/2012 9:09 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

What Rick said. Both nice, but the first is a cut above.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:


Marvelous lighting on the first one, Walt--it's a lovely shot.

Rick

  
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Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty ol' 
mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very* active 
and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable shots out of 
about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able to 
even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt

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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Rick!

I guess I've come to terms with the motion blur. The light does make up 
for it, now that I've had a day or two of distance.


-- Walt

On 8/2/2012 8:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Marvelous lighting on the first one, Walt--it's a lovely shot.

Rick

  
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Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty ol' 
mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very* active 
and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable shots out of 
about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able to 
even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Tim Bray]

Damn, who new... Thanks!  -T

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
>
> If you can live without it being configurable, try this...
>
> In LR and, if you want to just show all the pix in one folder, bring up
> that folder in the library and hit Ctrl-Enter (or whatever that combo is on
> a Mac.  LR will generate previews, then start a slideshow that will loop
> until you stop it.  If the pix you want to use are contained in different
> folders, put them a collection first and bring up that collection.  This
> works regardless of the file format so you don't have to export a bunch of
> JPGs.
>
> -p
>
>
> On 8/2/2012 12:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:41 PM, jn289 wrote:
>>
>>> How about I photo
>>
>>
>> as I said in the original message "I despise iPhoto".
>>
>> Seriously.  When I first tried it, my impression was that it was the one
>> of the worst pieces of software that I had ever used.
>>
>> Plus, it has the disadvantage, that I've mentioned I want to avoid, of
>> having to import every picture into it to display them.
>>
>> Preview almost does what I want, but it isnt' configurable, and you can't
>> just point it at a directory tree, you have to select all the photos in the
>> directory.
>>
>> I think xview was one that I used to use, and one or two with names
>> starting with q and/or g, that did what I need in Linux.
>>
>> xee, and xsee are supposed to do what I want, but they don't seem to
>> work.
>>
>> --
>> Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: View camera and big wooden box

[lrc]

No lenses came with it. I've got no idea what one would cost. The people who 
expressed interest balked when faced with the weight of the rig.
I also suspect that I need some sort of carrier for the film. Thn there is the 
whole processing the film to deal witj.

William Robb  wrote:

>On 01/08/2012 12:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I've had a couple of inquiries about the view camera.  With the box
>it came in, it weighs 38 pounds.
>>
>> I just took some quick photos of the kit:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630849527104/
>>
>> or on flickriver:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630849527104/
>>
>> The pictures are very quick and dirty, expository rather than
>artistic.  Comments on the photos are pretty much a waste of time and
>energy, I know they suck.  Relevant comments about the camera are
>appreciated though.
>>
>> It does seem to have an extra lens mount plate, and an extra bellows.
>As well as a box of Tri-X.
>>
>> I was more than a little amused by the box labeled "spanner
>wrenches", I wonder if whoever wrote that liked to eat biscuit cookies.
>>
>
>Nice Cambo. They are a pretty decent camera. Any lenses with it?
>I was given a Cambo with a 150mm Fujinon lens a while back.
>My view camera of choice is the field camera, and being a bit of a 
>traditionalist, I prefer wooden ones. My first view camera was a Burke
>& 
>James monorail that weighed something like 16 pounds. After hiking it 
>once, I decided that a new camera was in order, and bought the
>Tachihara.
>I haven't had a chance to play with the Cambo yet.
>I need a darkroom.
>
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Re: PESO Keep Moving

[Paul Stenquist]

The guy approaching her is carrying the sign on his back. 
Paul

On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:17 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> she's got her handsful - I can't tell where the sign is.. maybe that's part 
> of what you found interesting, aside from the obvious of what the sign said 
> in juxtaposition with people.
> 
> ann
> 
> On 8/2/2012 21:00, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> After adjusting fine focus for my autofocus lenses, I wanted to exercise the 
>> new K5 a bit. Drove into Birmingham to add a pic or two to my "It Happens on 
>> Woodward" set, which has been neglected lately. I'm liking this one. K5, DA* 
>> 60-250, f5.6, 1/640, ISO 400, 250mm.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16226393
>> 
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Re: PESO - Outside Konrad Bar

[Jack Davis]

He looks like a "Guys & Dolls" cast member.
She looks completely his.

Jack Davis
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From: frank theriault 
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Subject: PESO - Outside Konrad Bar

I was out for a late walk last night and this couple standing in front
of a local dive, the Konrad Bar, asked me to take their photo.  Of
course, I obliged:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/outside-konrad-bar.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
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Re: View camera and big wooden box

[William Robb]

On 01/08/2012 12:28 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I've had a couple of inquiries about the view camera.  With the box it came in, 
it weighs 38 pounds.

I just took some quick photos of the kit:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630849527104/

or on flickriver:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630849527104/

The pictures are very quick and dirty, expository rather than artistic.  
Comments on the photos are pretty much a waste of time and energy, I know they 
suck.  Relevant comments about the camera are appreciated though.

It does seem to have an extra lens mount plate, and an extra bellows. As well 
as a box of Tri-X.

I was more than a little amused by the box labeled "spanner wrenches", I wonder 
if whoever wrote that liked to eat biscuit cookies.



Nice Cambo. They are a pretty decent camera. Any lenses with it?
I was given a Cambo with a 150mm Fujinon lens a while back.
My view camera of choice is the field camera, and being a bit of a 
traditionalist, I prefer wooden ones. My first view camera was a Burke & 
James monorail that weighed something like 16 pounds. After hiking it 
once, I decided that a new camera was in order, and bought the Tachihara.

I haven't had a chance to play with the Cambo yet.
I need a darkroom.

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PESO - Outside Konrad Bar

[frank theriault]

I was out for a late walk last night and this couple standing in front
of a local dive, the Konrad Bar, asked me to take their photo.  Of
course, I obliged:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/08/outside-konrad-bar.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: New cedar table

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 8/2/2012 15:30, Chris Mitchell wrote:

On 31 July 2012 17:16, Tim Bray  wrote:

I am sort of ham-handed and physically unskilled; the only things I
normally create are software, prose, and photographs.  But in an
unaccustomed fit of carpenterial energy, I built a table for our
cabin, and it’s kind of pretty.  Close-up: http://goo.gl/zevu4

Narrative, with a couple more pix: http://goo.gl/R4MIE


Nice pieces of wood and well done for a non-chippie.
CM


Nice shot, Tim!  good looking table, too

ann

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Re: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 8/2/2012 19:28, Mark Roberts wrote:

Chris Mitchell wrote:


And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
Heritage to preserve it:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html


I don't know what fearless clothing is but I want some!


I think I'll pass on commenting on the location (which, of course, means 
I am doing so)


ann

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Re: PESO - Arches

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Ann.  I tried B&W, but missed the warm color of the sandstone.

Rick
 
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I like the geometry, think I'd like this shot more in black and white -
color here unnecessary ... though perhaps unfair without seeing a print.

ann

On 8/2/2012 21:17, Rick Womer wrote:
> Outside the chapter house at Chester Cathedral:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162878&size=lg
>
> (K5, DA 16-45)
>
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
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Re: PESO Keep Moving

[Ann Sanfedele]

she's got her handsful - I can't tell where the sign is.. maybe that's 
part of what you found interesting, aside from the obvious of what the 
sign said in juxtaposition with people.


ann

On 8/2/2012 21:00, Paul Stenquist wrote:

After adjusting fine focus for my autofocus lenses, I wanted to exercise the new K5 a 
bit. Drove into Birmingham to add a pic or two to my "It Happens on Woodward" 
set, which has been neglected lately. I'm liking this one. K5, DA* 60-250, f5.6, 1/640, 
ISO 400, 250mm.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16226393



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Re: PESO - Arches

[Ann Sanfedele]

I like the geometry, think I'd like this shot more in black and white -
color here unnecessary ... though perhaps unfair without seeing a print.

ann

On 8/2/2012 21:17, Rick Womer wrote:

Outside the chapter house at Chester Cathedral:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162878&size=lg

(K5, DA 16-45)


http://photo.net/photos/RickW



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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Paul Stenquist]

What Rick said. Both nice, but the first is a cut above.
Paul
On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> Marvelous lighting on the first one, Walt--it's a lovely shot.
> 
> Rick
> 
>  
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Walt Gilbert 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:34 PM
> Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)
> 
> I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
> K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty 
> ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very* 
> active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable 
> shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/
> 
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/
> 
> They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able 
> to even get the thing in the frame.
> 
> Comments/suggestions welcome as always.
> 
> -- Walt
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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Bob Sullivan]

TMI...

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM, James King  wrote:
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> Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700:
>
>> I've got one of those on my trousers.
>
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PESO - Arches

[Rick Womer]

Outside the chapter house at Chester Cathedral:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162878&size=lg

(K5, DA 16-45)

 
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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Rick Womer]

Marvelous lighting on the first one, Walt--it's a lovely shot.

Rick

 
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Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the 
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the trusty ol' 
mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was very, *very* active 
and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple of presentable shots out of 
about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was able to 
even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

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Re: Feeding the kitty (Keeping PDML Solvent)

[Bruce Walker]

Electrons are poor swimmers.


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 8:42 PM, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> Greetings from rainy Costa Rica!
> The (PayPal) check is in the mail Doug. For reasons I don't understand they 
> say it will take 3-5 days to get to you . . .
>
> stan
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
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>> Quoting Bruce Walker :
>>
>>> Duly tipped. Good investment.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Ditto - but I changed the subject line in case anyone thought that this 
>> thread was just about cat photos..
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
>> Brian Walters
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>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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>>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
 Hi, kids.

 It kills me every time to do this, but there isn't enough money in the till
 to pay this month's PDML bill. We're about $20 short, even after Steve
 Desjardin's generous tip last month.

 If you could find it in your heart and purse to throw a couple piasters 
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 stay in its uneasy balance.

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PESO Keep Moving

[Paul Stenquist]

After adjusting fine focus for my autofocus lenses, I wanted to exercise the 
new K5 a bit. Drove into Birmingham to add a pic or two to my "It Happens on 
Woodward" set, which has been neglected lately. I'm liking this one. K5, DA* 
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Re: Feeding the kitty (Keeping PDML Solvent)

[Stan Halpin]

Greetings from rainy Costa Rica!  
The (PayPal) check is in the mail Doug. For reasons I don't understand they say 
it will take 3-5 days to get to you . . .

stan 


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On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:48 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

> Quoting Bruce Walker :
> 
>> Duly tipped. Good investment.
>> 
> 
> 
> Ditto - but I changed the subject line in case anyone thought that this 
> thread was just about cat photos..
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
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> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>> Hi, kids.
>>> 
>>> It kills me every time to do this, but there isn't enough money in the till
>>> to pay this month's PDML bill. We're about $20 short, even after Steve
>>> Desjardin's generous tip last month.
>>> 
>>> If you could find it in your heart and purse to throw a couple piasters into
>>> the pot over on www.pdml.net, we will avoid interruption and the world will
>>> stay in its uneasy balance.
>>> 
>>> Thanks very much,
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> PDML List Guy
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RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[James King]

Bob W wrote on Thu, 02 Aug 2012 14:45:50 -0700:

> I've got one of those on my trousers.

What?  You mean you have one one that divides into three pieces and extends 
less than one inch???  You probably shouldn't make a public announcement...

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Re: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Mark Roberts]

Chris Mitchell wrote:

>And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
>quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
>Heritage to preserve it:
>http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html

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OT 10 types of street photographers

[Bruce Walker]

All present and accounted-for, I think.

http://www.yanidel.net/2011/12/09/10-types-of-street-photographers/

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August PUG - Closing the Floodgates

[Brian Walters]

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday so get 'em in while you still can.

So far we have 26 themed submissions.


The details:

Theme: Water

Submit here: http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Submission Guidelines here: http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

The main requirements are:

* Max. pixel dimensions: 800 pixels on the longest side.
* Max file size: 300k
* Third party equipment is acceptable provided either the camera body  
or lens used is Pentax.
* If you embed a colour space in the image, it should be sRGB to  
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Re: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Chris Mitchell]

Darren Addy  wrote:

>Both very cool, Chris! Thanks for sharing.
>That multi-layered one... the yellow seems to say BULL DURHAM. (I'll
>need to have a pint and work on the rest).
>: )
>
>Bull Durham (tobacco) did a LOT of building signage apparently:
>http://signs.lawrenceotoole.com/2012/04/bull-durham-smoking-tobacco.html
>http://unusualkentucky.blogspot.com/2009/09/bull-durham-ghost-sign.html
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/brulelaker/6674640413/
>http://7thstreetnow.blogspot.com/2011/09/ghost-bull-durham-sign-restored.html
>
>
>On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Chris Mitchell
> wrote:
>> On 30 July 2012 16:41, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>> These images are purely documentary, but for those of you who enjoy
>>> "Ghost Signs" here are two examples from the same building in my
>home
>>> town. Ghost signs painted on chalk brick (like these) tend to show
>up
>>> best when the brick gets wet, and we were fortunate enough to get a
>>> decent rain overnight (finally some moisture!) I drive past this
>>> building on my way to work every day, but the way the signs were
>>> "popping" and the overcast light this morning combined to provide
>the
>>> motivation for me to pull over and get them recorded.
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143598/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143294/in/photostream/
>>>
>>> For those interested there is also a Flickr group dedicated to Ghost
>>> Signs, which has over 21,000 images:
>>> http://www.flickr.com/groups/10285999@N00/
>>>
>> Thanks for posting Darren. I've always been interested in these.
>> Here's one in Galena, Illinois which seems to be multi-layered:
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Galena/slides/_IGP2945.html
>>
>> And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
>> quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
>> Heritage to preserve it:
>> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html
>>
>> Chris
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Well well! That first link is my Galena building. I must have been half way up 
those steps...

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Re: Feeding the kitty (Keeping PDML Solvent)

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Bruce Walker :


Duly tipped. Good investment.




Ditto - but I changed the subject line in case anyone thought that  
this thread was just about cat photos..




Cheers

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On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

Hi, kids.

It kills me every time to do this, but there isn't enough money in the till
to pay this month's PDML bill. We're about $20 short, even after Steve
Desjardin's generous tip last month.

If you could find it in your heart and purse to throw a couple piasters into
the pot over on www.pdml.net, we will avoid interruption and the world will
stay in its uneasy balance.

Thanks very much,

Doug

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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Kenneth Waller]

You can tell he is a pro, he never showed a look of surprise when he took off 
the cap.

-Original Message-
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>Subject: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA
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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[Brian Walters]

Quoting steve harley :



this is my fourth Olympics with TiVo; we got TiVo and cable for the  
2000 games, and soon realized cable wasn't worth it but TiVo was …  
so for 12 years just about all the TV i've watched has been on time  
delay, Olympics included, and i've given up on avoiding spoilers i  
get a lot of news from elsewhere than TV, e.g. RSS feeds from BBC  
and NZ Herald plus (**do not click if you don't want spoilers!**)  
this:




the problem with avoiding spoilers (in general) is that you can't  
celebrate or gasp in horror with the rest of the world




I guess I'm just not enough of a sports fan to care about spoilers.   
In fact - I prefer them.


If the result isn't what I would have liked, I don't need to watch a  
replay.  Case in point - the recent British Open Golf.


If it is, I can watch the exciting bits selectively.

As for the Olympics - I lost interest years ago.  The amount of public  
money that gets sunk into over-pampered 'elite' sportspeople in search  
of 'gold' is sickening, especially when they don't have to repay it  
(unlike university students who do).  Of course, I'm talking from an  
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Re: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Darren Addy]

Both very cool, Chris! Thanks for sharing.
That multi-layered one... the yellow seems to say BULL DURHAM. (I'll
need to have a pint and work on the rest).
: )

Bull Durham (tobacco) did a LOT of building signage apparently:
http://signs.lawrenceotoole.com/2012/04/bull-durham-smoking-tobacco.html
http://unusualkentucky.blogspot.com/2009/09/bull-durham-ghost-sign.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brulelaker/6674640413/
http://7thstreetnow.blogspot.com/2011/09/ghost-bull-durham-sign-restored.html


On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> On 30 July 2012 16:41, Darren Addy  wrote:
>> These images are purely documentary, but for those of you who enjoy
>> "Ghost Signs" here are two examples from the same building in my home
>> town. Ghost signs painted on chalk brick (like these) tend to show up
>> best when the brick gets wet, and we were fortunate enough to get a
>> decent rain overnight (finally some moisture!) I drive past this
>> building on my way to work every day, but the way the signs were
>> "popping" and the overcast light this morning combined to provide the
>> motivation for me to pull over and get them recorded.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143598/in/photostream/
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143294/in/photostream/
>>
>> For those interested there is also a Flickr group dedicated to Ghost
>> Signs, which has over 21,000 images:
>> http://www.flickr.com/groups/10285999@N00/
>>
> Thanks for posting Darren. I've always been interested in these.
> Here's one in Galena, Illinois which seems to be multi-layered:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Galena/slides/_IGP2945.html
>
> And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
> quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
> Heritage to preserve it:
> http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html
>
> Chris
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Re: PESOs: Ghost Signs

[Chris Mitchell]

On 30 July 2012 16:41, Darren Addy  wrote:
> These images are purely documentary, but for those of you who enjoy
> "Ghost Signs" here are two examples from the same building in my home
> town. Ghost signs painted on chalk brick (like these) tend to show up
> best when the brick gets wet, and we were fortunate enough to get a
> decent rain overnight (finally some moisture!) I drive past this
> building on my way to work every day, but the way the signs were
> "popping" and the overcast light this morning combined to provide the
> motivation for me to pull over and get them recorded.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143598/in/photostream/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/7677143294/in/photostream/
>
> For those interested there is also a Flickr group dedicated to Ghost
> Signs, which has over 21,000 images:
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/10285999@N00/
>
Thanks for posting Darren. I've always been interested in these.
Here's one in Galena, Illinois which seems to be multi-layered:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Galena/slides/_IGP2945.html

And here's a fun one in Cockermouth in the English Lake District, not
quite as faded, but disappearing fast. It should be listed by English
Heritage to preserve it:
http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/LakeDistrict2011_/slides/_IGP8938.html

Chris

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Re: OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry

[mike wilson]

My friend is well aware of the political background, his grandparents 
(or maybe further back) being forcibly moved from (what is now) Ukraine 
to Poland.  He is less interested in the politics of the situation than 
in the possibility to both help people and earn a living.



On 02/08/2012 18:17, Igor Roshchin wrote:


Some 20 years ago, I visited the area of where Rusyns (Carpatho-Rusyns,
Ruthenes) live near Uzhgorod (Transcarpathian Region of Ukraine), -
in one of the valleys away from big cities.

They were affected by many major European wars (that territory was
changing hands many times and _practically_ never had its own statehood),
but, surprisingly, not wiped away.
I think absence of natural resources and being somewhat hidden away from
the major army routes helped their survival and the survival of their
ethnical characteristics, including their language. (At least in the part
I visited) Their language consists of a wild mixuter of Ukrainian (~50%),
Hungarian, Chech or/and Slovakian, Polish and Russian.

A lot of questions related to the ethnicity of Rusyns is highly
political (even with some separatists movement(s)), and thus, -
some are contraversial.
E.g. Rusyn language (or dialect) was formally recognized only in 1990s.
The same happened with the formal recognition of the ethnicity in
different European countries that have Rusyns.
I suspect that some might even about some details of the short description
I wrote here.


Igor




Thu Aug 2 05:35:30 EDT 2012
mike wilson wrote:


I know a few folks here are of this background.  A friend of mine
(excellent English, dry sense of humour) in Central Europe is thinking
of starting a company to help people research and provide guidance to
visit ancestral homes.

If anyone would be interested in such a service, please contact me
offlist.  You can also pass my email address to other interested parties.






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RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Bob W]

I've got one of those on my trousers.

B

> 
> Hate it when that happens. I worried about it using the X2, but fixed
> the problem with a little accessory:
> 
> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/leica-X2-auto-cap.jpg
> 
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Mark Roberts
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RE: OT: Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Probably shot with a Nikon, the only company stupid enough to hire cougar
prey.

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The Milky Way as seen from Mars:
http://themetapicture.com/astronomy-picture-of-the-day/

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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hate it when that happens. I worried about it using the X2, but fixed
the problem with a little accessory:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/leica-X2-auto-cap.jpg

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Mark Roberts
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OT: Astronomy Picture of the Day

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The Milky Way as seen from Mars:
http://themetapicture.com/astronomy-picture-of-the-day/

Dan Matyola
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RE: OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry

[Bob W]

I travelled in that general area a few years ago, when I visited Romania. I
spent a week or so in Sighetu Marmatiei, in Maramures County, and from there
went walking in the hills around the border with the Ukraine. The people in
the valleys and hills were wonderfully friendly - I posted a photo essay
from there some years ago, this was shortly after Valentin Donisa of fond
memory had taken me on a tour of the Moldovensc and Suceava region - and
welcoming. 

They spoke Ukrainian, I think. In any case, my hopeless attempts to speak
Russian were not welcomed, and they did not appear to speak Romanian or
Hungarian, as far as I could tell. I would love to spend more time in that
region.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Igor Roshchin
> Sent: 02 August 2012 17:17
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry
> 
> 
> Some 20 years ago, I visited the area of where Rusyns (Carpatho-Rusyns,
> Ruthenes) live near Uzhgorod (Transcarpathian Region of Ukraine), - in
> one of the valleys away from big cities.
> 
> They were affected by many major European wars (that territory was
> changing hands many times and _practically_ never had its own
> statehood), but, surprisingly, not wiped away.
> I think absence of natural resources and being somewhat hidden away
> from the major army routes helped their survival and the survival of
> their ethnical characteristics, including their language. (At least in
> the part I visited) Their language consists of a wild mixuter of
> Ukrainian (~50%), Hungarian, Chech or/and Slovakian, Polish and
> Russian.
> 
> A lot of questions related to the ethnicity of Rusyns is highly
> political (even with some separatists movement(s)), and thus, - some
> are contraversial.
> E.g. Rusyn language (or dialect) was formally recognized only in 1990s.
> The same happened with the formal recognition of the ethnicity in
> different European countries that have Rusyns.
> I suspect that some might even about some details of the short
> description I wrote here.
> 
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Thu Aug 2 05:35:30 EDT 2012
> mike wilson wrote:
> 
> > I know a few folks here are of this background.  A friend of mine
> > (excellent English, dry sense of humour) in Central Europe is
> thinking
> > of starting a company to help people research and provide guidance to
> > visit ancestral homes.
> >
> > If anyone would be interested in such a service, please contact me
> > offlist.  You can also pass my email address to other interested
> parties.
> 
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RE: OT - saga of fotki.com - beginning of the end?

[Bob W]

This sort of thing is not restricted to the online world. When the
predecessor of Zipcar started up over here I joined as a 'founder member' by
paying about £125 up front which reduced the overall cost of membership, and
which they promised I could have back in full if I left. I barely ever hired
a car from them, but I liked the convenience of being able to at any time,
for a low, low price.

When they grew and became more popular their original business model must
have stopped working because they spent a lot of time and effort trying to
get me to switch to a different model, which had absolutely no benefits for
me, and plenty of costs (monthly fees, when I never borrowed a car from one
month to the next).

When the big, bad American wolf, Zipcar, took them over they decided to play
hardball, and made me an offer I couldn't refuse, which was to take my
£125-, leave, and rejoin if I wanted on their horrible terms, or forego the
option to recover my £125- but continue to pay on use, rather than a monthly
fee.

So the lesson is, take start-up 'lifetime' promises and deals with a pinch
of salt - they're just trying to buy customers and will turn on you
eventually.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Igor Roshchin
> Sent: 02 August 2012 15:36
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: OT - saga of fotki.com - beginning of the end?
> 
> 
> 
> If you haven't heard about what fotki.com did about two months ago:
> http://clickglide.com/?p=844
> 
> I heard about some people who had bought "life memebership" and now
> were requested to pay additional fees, and were denied easy access to
> the originals.
> 
> I wonder if independent photohosting sites without big players behind
> them (Google, Yahoo, etc.) would be surviving, as many people who don't
> care for particular features are switching to using FB and G+ for
> showing thousands of their unsorted snapshots.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
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Re: OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My father's father was a Rusyn, from a village near Mukachevo, just
southwest of Uzhgorod.

Our heritage is very complicated, because we never had our own
country, and were constantly dominated by larger, more aggressive,
neighbors.  I grew up not really knowing what we were, and mostly told
people I was Slovak, which was true of my mother's family.

The isolation and poverty of the Rusyn homeland was a blessing to some
extent, in that it allowed them to maintain their own culture and
religious traditions without too much outside interference from the
Austrians, Hungarians, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians, Romanians,
Russians and others who from time to time ruled all or part of
Carpathian Ruthenia.

In the last years of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, Rusyns came under
increased pressure from the "Magyarization" policies of Hungary, and
may fled to the US, Canada, Australia and elsewhere.  Although most
had been peasant farmers, they usually found work in the mines that no
one else would accept.  Those that remained behind were often forcibly
assimilated into the Polish, Ukrainian and Hungarian societies that
dominated their fractured homeland.  Rusyns were treated better in
Czechoslovakia than elsewhere, but during WW II, the Soviet Union cut
off the tail of Slovakia, and integrated it into the Soviet Union.
That area is now in Ukraine, and again coming under pressure to
assimilate.

As a result, there are probably more people in the US that identify
themselves as ethnic Rusyns than there are in Europe.  That saddens me
greatly.

I take comfort in the fact that we may be a small and obscure ethnic
group, but we have managed nonetheless to make a contribution to the
American Melting Pot.  The most famous Rusyn-American is, of course,
Andy Warhol (Adrei Warhola), and we also count Sandra Dee (nee Zuck),
Tom Sellick, and Robert Urich among our number.  My personal hero,
however, is Sgt Mike Strank, leader of the Marineswho raised the flag
on Iwo Jima.

In 30 years, the Rusyn identity will be entirely forgotten.
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
> Some 20 years ago, I visited the area of where Rusyns (Carpatho-Rusyns,
> Ruthenes) live near Uzhgorod (Transcarpathian Region of Ukraine), -
> in one of the valleys away from big cities.
>
> They were affected by many major European wars (that territory was
> changing hands many times and _practically_ never had its own statehood),
> but, surprisingly, not wiped away.
> I think absence of natural resources and being somewhat hidden away from
> the major army routes helped their survival and the survival of their
> ethnical characteristics, including their language. (At least in the part
> I visited) Their language consists of a wild mixuter of Ukrainian (~50%),
> Hungarian, Chech or/and Slovakian, Polish and Russian.
>
> A lot of questions related to the ethnicity of Rusyns is highly
> political (even with some separatists movement(s)), and thus, -
> some are contraversial.
> E.g. Rusyn language (or dialect) was formally recognized only in 1990s.
> The same happened with the formal recognition of the ethnicity in
> different European countries that have Rusyns.
> I suspect that some might even about some details of the short description
> I wrote here.
>
>
> Igor
>
>
>
>
> Thu Aug 2 05:35:30 EDT 2012
> mike wilson wrote:
>
>> I know a few folks here are of this background.  A friend of mine
>> (excellent English, dry sense of humour) in Central Europe is thinking
>> of starting a company to help people research and provide guidance to
>> visit ancestral homes.
>>
>> If anyone would be interested in such a service, please contact me
>> offlist.  You can also pass my email address to other interested parties.
>
>
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RE: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Mark Roberts
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA
> 

"let him who is without sin cast the first stone"...

O:(

B


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Re: One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

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On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA

I just got a Zeiss Ikon ZM.  I haven't done it yet, but I'm just
waiting for the day that I leave the lens cap on.

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-01 21:16 Larry Colen wrote

There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run a 
slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro.
I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I 
despise iPhoto.


if all you need is to change the speed of Preview's slideshow, run this
Applescript in the background (with the slideshow paused)

tell application "System Events"
  repeat
key code 124 -- right arrow
delay 5 -- or however many seconds
  end repeat
end tell

Preview can also do whole folder trees — just drag the top folder onto the 
Preview icon and it will do a depth first traversal; on OS X 10.7 i can also 
change the order of the images, though i just tried on 10.5 and it seems to try 
but fail to change the order


… but honestly iPhoto is pretty good at this and it would be simple for you to 
simply drag your whole folder tree onto iPhoto (after first going to Prefs > 
Advanced and unchecking the Import: Copy items option), then click the 
slideshow button at the bottom of the screen


it will ask what theme you want to use, and give you some corny default music, 
but all that is easily configurable


when done, select all, delete, quit iPhoto and pretend it isn't there until you 
need another slideshow




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Re: PESO: New cedar table

[Chris Mitchell]

On 31 July 2012 17:16, Tim Bray  wrote:
> I am sort of ham-handed and physically unskilled; the only things I
> normally create are software, prose, and photographs.  But in an
> unaccustomed fit of carpenterial energy, I built a table for our
> cabin, and it’s kind of pretty.  Close-up: http://goo.gl/zevu4
>
> Narrative, with a couple more pix: http://goo.gl/R4MIE
>
Nice pieces of wood and well done for a non-chippie.
CM

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One of the advantages of optical viewfinders

[Mark Roberts]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l14RCW4UA

 
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Re: OT - shooting from tricopters

[John Francis]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:16:29AM -0400, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
> I don't think any RC planes or copters existed at that point
> (at least they were not available where I grew up).
> 
> Igor

A friend of mine was flying RC scale model aircraft in the mid 60s,
and they weren't a new idea then.  What did not exist, though, was
a video camera small enough and light enough to be mounted on the
plane (let alone a battery-powered one with recording capability);
a typical TV outside broadcast setup in those days filled a truck.


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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[John Francis]

On Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 10:36:58AM -0600, steve harley wrote:
> 
> this is my fourth Olympics with TiVo; we got TiVo and cable for the
> 2000 games, and soon realized cable wasn't worth it but TiVo was ?
> so for 12 years just about all the TV i've watched has been on time
> delay, Olympics included.

I've been tape-delaying my TV watching for rather longer than that -
I started around 1980, IIRC, (when it really was 'tape delay') with a
Sears-branded Sony Betamax I picked up when my local store mistakenly
offered the high-end discount on the low-end model. I can't remember
the last time I watched anything live.

I was one of the subscribers to NBC's PPV triplecast of the Olympics
in 1992. By this time I had multiple VCRs, so I was able to record
two of the three broadcast streams (and watch the third live, or play
back a previously-recorded tape). I can't remember now why I couldn't
record all three streams at the same time, but fortunately for me the
need never arose.  I did have to schedule changing the tapes in the
VCRs, though - I think the longest slot I could record was 3 hours.

I got my first TiVo when DirecTV offered one - for the first time it
was possible to record shows for later viewing with no loss of quality.
Cable (or satellite) is all but essential for me - one of the things
we like to watch is Formula One auto racing, and that's never been
shown on over-the-air broadcasts in America (unless you count the
ABC coverage of the Monaco Grand Prix in the early 1980s; a whole
20 minute slot for a two hour race, of which 12 minutes were taken
up by advertisements or talking heads in the studio). We also watch
quite a few other shows that are only available on cable/satellite.

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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Paul Sorenson]

If you can live without it being configurable, try this...

In LR and, if you want to just show all the pix in one folder, bring up 
that folder in the library and hit Ctrl-Enter (or whatever that combo is 
on a Mac.  LR will generate previews, then start a slideshow that will 
loop until you stop it.  If the pix you want to use are contained in 
different folders, put them a collection first and bring up that 
collection.  This works regardless of the file format so you don't have 
to export a bunch of JPGs.


-p

On 8/2/2012 12:20 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Aug 1, 2012, at 9:41 PM, jn289 wrote:


How about I photo


as I said in the original message "I despise iPhoto".

Seriously.  When I first tried it, my impression was that it was the one of the 
worst pieces of software that I had ever used.

Plus, it has the disadvantage, that I've mentioned I want to avoid, of having 
to import every picture into it to display them.

Preview almost does what I want, but it isnt' configurable, and you can't just 
point it at a directory tree, you have to select all the photos in the 
directory.

I think xview was one that I used to use, and one or two with names starting 
with q and/or g, that did what I need in Linux.

xee, and xsee are supposed to do what I want, but they don't seem to work.

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Re: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

[John Sessoms]

From the title in the subject line, I thought it might be another cat 
photo.


From: Rick Womer


hanks, Frank!

For some reason it got only 27 views in 24 hours, so I tried bumping up the 
traffic. ?It's now had 75 views, which is in the normal range.

I guess I need to work on my titles!

Cheers,

Rick
?
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


- Original Message -
From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
To: ""Pentax-Discuss Mail List"" 
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

I tend to avoid images of violence, but I'm glad I looked at this one.

;-)

Seriously, a lovely, quiet (that's not the word I'm looking for but it will do 
for now) photo. I like it a great deal.

Cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Rick Womer 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877

(Jeez, what does it take to get people to look at a PESO these days?)

Rick



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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> If you have your photos in LR already,
> - create a collection of the ones you want to show
> - in the collection, select all and generate 100% previews
> - export the collection with previews, without negatives
>
> Now you have a slideshow system you can put anywhere and have LR run for
> you, and it's configurable.
>
> If you just aphave a folder full of JPEGs, open the folder with the Finder,
> select all, and press the space bar. Click the full screen button, and click
> the run button. Not configurable, but it will constantly cycle the images to
> the screen.

Forgot to mention:

Of course, you can also organize slideshows in LR, formatted as you
want them to be, and output them as JPEGs or PDFs. Then you can run a
slideshow from the Finder, Preview or Acrobat and it will be ordered
the way you wanted it to be.

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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:02 AM, John Sessoms wrote:


One of them lived two blocks away around the corner from my house,
and that's where they started their spree from. Mine was the first
vehicle they attacked.


Idiots, I thought the first rule of crime is that you don't shit in
your own back yard.

Dave



As angry as I still am at them all these years later, they weren't yet 
hardened, experienced criminals, just stupid teenage boys heedless of 
the cost others would have to pay for their vandalism. I don't even 
think it ever occurred to them that someone might call the cops ... or 
worse.


I worked with the guy who caught them. He heard them when they hit his 
Range Rover & came running out of the house with a shotgun; caught up 
with them a couple of houses down - stuck the barrel in through the 
driver's window and, uh ... told them to stop.


They're lucky he didn't kill at least one of them. The cops had already 
been called several times & following the trail of debris arrived too soon.


OTOH, they got off with a slap on the wrist, so there was little of a 
lesson for them to learn. I expect they all grew up to become Wall 
Street bankers.


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Re: OT: London Olympics 2012

[John Sessoms]

From: David Mann


On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:


Since John brought it up, I'll use the original hijacked thread to
note today's Google Doodle.


I think they're doing a new Olympic-themed doodle every day at the moment.  I'm 
getting a table tennis one right now.

Dave


I only meant to point out that by coincidence, "hockey" happened to be 
that day's doodle.


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RE: PESOS Cats

[John Sessoms]

From: jn289


Frank, thanks for looking, but what I mean are the fangs so long that
they show when the cat's mouth is closed. This cat was a stray..Joe




I see it occasionally. It's a cat's version of a weak chin.

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Re: PESO - Harebell

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-01 8:13 AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote

http://alunfoto.blogspot.no/2012/08/blaklokke-harebell.html



i noticed that in your feed and definitely enjoyed it; i too, know the dance of 
the flower in the wind


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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[John Sessoms]

If you've got one of those Macs that will allow you to also boot into 
Windoze, you could copy all the photos you want for your slide show into 
"My Pictures" and set your screensaver to a slide show. Add a password 
to the screen saver & your guests won't easily disrupt it.


From: Larry Colen


On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:

Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe


I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image viewer
at a directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and have it
show them in a slideshow.






There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd
like to run a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook
pro. I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of
works, and I despise iPhoto. What I want is  program that I can
print to a directory, or directory tree, of jpegs, and have it
cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set the rate, and
choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order they're
in the directories.

And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.

Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image
viewing programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I
don't remember their names, and there are, of course, twenty
seven million or so programs with "image" or "view" in their name
under Linux.

Larry


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OT - for Cotty - HoryzonHD camera

[Igor Roshchin]

I just came across this camera:
http://www.foxtechfpv.com/horyzonhd-1080p-cam-c-121.html

Cotty, since you are playing with the GoPro camera, you might be 
interested in looking at this one
(and it might be of interest to other PDMLers-enthusiasts).

Here is a review and comparison to GoPro Hero:
http://www.rcexplorer.se/files/HoryzonHD.html

Igor


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Re: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

[Walt Gilbert]

Thank you, Frank!

The mimosa tree is in a really good location and has lots of low-hanging 
branches, which helps a lot.


-- Walt

On 8/1/2012 10:49 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Terrific shots, but the light in the first one is amazing!

cheers,
frank

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Walt Gilbert 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: PESOs: Butterfly shots (2 photos)

I stepped out into the oppressive heat yesterday afternoon with the
K20D/Promaster 70-300 and spotted a butterfly fluttering around the
trusty ol' mimosa tree. Being somewhere between 95-100 degrees, it was
very, *very* active and tough to capture. I did manage to get a couple
of presentable shots out of about 10 attempts. Here they are:

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688875542/

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7688874428/

They're not world-beaters, I suppose, but I was pretty happy that I was
able to even get the thing in the frame.

Comments/suggestions welcome as always.

-- Walt




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Re: OT - Rue Brittania

[steve harley]

on 2012-08-01 19:55 John Francis wrote

On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 03:40:43PM -0600, steve harley wrote:

on 2012-08-01 10:55 John Francis wrote

Why, why, WHY will people insist on posting spoilers to unrelated groups?


most of the world, including Canada iirc, is in real-time, and may
not be aware of #NBCfail


I presume you are referring to NBC's tape delay?


the time-delay specifically, yes, but the hashtag represents a variety of 
"fails" in NBC's Olympics coverage



That's only for the
evening prime-time show, as far as I know.


i don't know — the road races were certainly time-delayed last weekend; i only 
have the broadcast version of NBC, and am not trying to record everything



But the live coverage for
many of the events is at hours which are not PDT-friendly.  In any
case, I can't watch everything in real time - that's why I have TiVos.


this is my fourth Olympics with TiVo; we got TiVo and cable for the 2000 games, 
and soon realized cable wasn't worth it but TiVo was … so for 12 years just 
about all the TV i've watched has been on time delay, Olympics included, and 
i've given up on avoiding spoilers i get a lot of news from elsewhere than TV, 
e.g. RSS feeds from BBC and NZ Herald plus (**do not click if you don't want 
spoilers!**) this:




the problem with avoiding spoilers (in general) is that you can't celebrate or 
gasp in horror with the rest of the world


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Re: OT - Backups & Cockups, Netbooks & MyBooks, Hard Drives, &, Dryers

[John Sessoms]

Quoting John Coyle :


My Maxtor also played up last month, and I too bought a WD MyBook
replacement!
Fortunately, I don't use any backup software that was mangled by the
WD software, so the
transfer of data was only painful in that about 10% of the image
files were showing bad
reads:  I used the old DOS command XCOPY to do the transfer, worked
very well in the
background.  I was also lucky (or well enough organised!) to have a
second copy of the
image files so that I was able to replace those that showed bad
reads - nothing lost in
the long run.
The only issue I have now is that another external HDD now gets lost
from My Computer
occasionally and has to be remounted every now and then - possibly
the firmware in the
MyBook is interfering with it, but it's no biggy.




That's started to happen with my 1.5 TB WD external drive.  My laptop
won't allocate it a drive letter on boot and I have to go into 'Disk
Management' to allocate a drive letter manually every time I need to
use it.

Not sure if its an OS issue (Vista) or a problem with the drive.


I've noticed that the older of my two WD MyBook's takes a long time to 
start up. I've learned not to be in a hurry.


It takes 5 - 10 minutes sometimes before it will finally appear in My 
Computer under XP and Vista. But it has, so far, eventually showed up.


I think the power supply problems are in the plug-in transformers 
supplied with the drive.


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Re: PESOS Cats

[Ann Sanfedele]

ditto - nice shots
ann

On 8/2/2012 00:00, jn289 wrote:

Frank, thanks for looking, but what I mean are the fangs so long that
they show when the cat's mouth is closed. This cat was a stray..Joe





I especially like the first one. So fierce!

And yeah, all cats have those fangs.

I read somewhere that cats may be the most efficient hunters in the
animal kingdom. And since plants, for the most part, don't hunt I
guess that means that cats are the most efficient hunters, period.

One look at those teeth and claws and I don't wonder why.

Both very good photos.

Cheers,
 frank

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--- Original Message ---

From: jn289 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: PESOS Cats

Ann, these are for you, and whoever else is a cat person. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219712 This was shot  March
2012. Shot through the glass pane. This cat was sitting by our back
door. It was very cold out and I guess this cat was looking for a
warm place. My dog would not have agreed. Look at the long fangs ? Do
cats all have long fangs ?


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5951342  This cat was hiding
on my friend's steps. You may have seen this before..

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Re: OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry

[Igor Roshchin]

Some 20 years ago, I visited the area of where Rusyns (Carpatho-Rusyns, 
Ruthenes) live near Uzhgorod (Transcarpathian Region of Ukraine), - 
in one of the valleys away from big cities.

They were affected by many major European wars (that territory was
changing hands many times and _practically_ never had its own statehood), 
but, surprisingly, not wiped away.
I think absence of natural resources and being somewhat hidden away from
the major army routes helped their survival and the survival of their
ethnical characteristics, including their language. (At least in the part 
I visited) Their language consists of a wild mixuter of Ukrainian (~50%), 
Hungarian, Chech or/and Slovakian, Polish and Russian.

A lot of questions related to the ethnicity of Rusyns is highly
political (even with some separatists movement(s)), and thus, - 
some are contraversial.
E.g. Rusyn language (or dialect) was formally recognized only in 1990s.
The same happened with the formal recognition of the ethnicity in
different European countries that have Rusyns.
I suspect that some might even about some details of the short description 
I wrote here.


Igor




Thu Aug 2 05:35:30 EDT 2012
mike wilson wrote:

> I know a few folks here are of this background.  A friend of mine 
> (excellent English, dry sense of humour) in Central Europe is thinking 
> of starting a company to help people research and provide guidance to 
> visit ancestral homes.
> 
> If anyone would be interested in such a service, please contact me 
> offlist.  You can also pass my email address to other interested parties.


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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: Anthony Farr


On 1 August 2012 20:01, John Sessoms  wrote:

I have a MGB Tourer in the basement. I can't remember if it's half assembled
or half disassembled. Does that count?



I'd suggest it's half assembled.  Presumably it got into the basement
in pieces, not as an entire car.  Unless, that is, your basement has a
remarkably wide and smooth stairway down into it.

regards, Anthony


The basement is at ground level in back of the house. There's a wide 
double door. I think it might originally have been intended as a garage, 
1936 style.


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RE: PESO -How many of you remember this

[Kenneth Waller]

I had at least one.If it is set up properly there's no reason it should have 
any negative effect on the sidewall.

-Original Message-
>From: John Coyle 
>Subject: RE: PESO -How many of you remember this
>
>Certainly do remember those!  Noisy, but cheap and pretty reliable: I don't 
>know whether
>they ever did wear through the tyre wall, never happened to me.
>
>
>John Coyle
>Brisbane, Australia
>
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of jn289
>Sent: Thursday, 2 August 2012 1:52 PM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: PESO -How many of you remember this
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219674
>
>This was at a yard sale



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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: Darren Addy


Darn, that's a sad story John! Why must senseless violence be so
senseless (not to mention so violent)?

My MGB Convertible was given to me by my brother-in-law who seemed to
accumulate cars as barter for doing roofing jobs above and beyond the
original quote. Whoever had it started their restoration with the
interior (rather bass-ackwards, if you ask me). The convertible top is
near new also. The body is pretty straight and it has these
ungodly-looking whitewall tires on it (rally wheels, not wires). It
has the "crack of doom" in the top of the driver's door just starting
to emerge after what looks like an earlier repair.

I really don't even know what it needs yet. I know it needs a fuel
pump and I'd want to clean out the gas tank before even trying to
crank it. Beyond that I'm not sure. I doubt that I'm ever going to do
a *full* restoration on it, but I would enjoy having it licensed and
drivable. Our town's annual Cruise Night is a yearly reminder of how
it is just taking up space in my garage.


The "crack of doom" is actually a fairly inexpensive repair. I had it on 
the passenger side door, and IIRC, it was about $150 and you can't even 
see where it was. We had a pretty good British Car mechanic over in 
Durham, NC; factory apprenticed before coming to the U.S.


Their web site is still up, but the last post in their "English Car 
Events and Classifieds" is from 2010. I probably ought to go by there 
and see if they're still in business next time I go over to visit my mom.


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RE: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[John Sessoms]

From: "Bob W"


the last car I actually owned was an MGB Roadster. Driving it on the open
road on a summer's evening was a wonderful joy, but a joy so rare, and so
costly. Most of my time was spent sitting in traffic jams while the rain
dripped through the so-called roof and even I, Deaf Bob, could hear the rust
eating it like a caterpillar eats a leaf. In the end it would have cost more
to put it right than it would ever be worth, and I simply wasn't getting
that much fun out of it, so I just let the garage keep it for parts.

B


Could have been worse, I acquired the MGB because I couldn't find an 
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Re: OT - shooting from tricopters

[Bruce Walker]

Cool!

On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
>
>
> Here is an interesting way of shooting videos:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0_tGHlR7g&playnext=1&list=PL752B3230A0D43C28
> (and an interesting video)
>
>
> It's funny, when I was a kid I was fantasizing about having
> remote-controlled flying object that could be used for shooting videos,
> shooting my castles that was building with toy wooden bricks in my room
> and the toy-soldiers that were placed in those castles
> (shooting with small objects that would be knocking off those), etc.
> I don't think any RC planes or copters existed at that point
> (at least they were not available where I grew up).
>
> Igor
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Real 'Merican wearing a real hat

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My humble homage to Frank's great series on Canadians and their hats:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16195084

Comments are always appreciated.
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OT - saga of fotki.com - beginning of the end?

[Igor Roshchin]

If you haven't heard about what fotki.com did about two months ago:
http://clickglide.com/?p=844

I heard about some people who had bought "life memebership" and now were 
requested to pay additional fees, and were denied easy access to the
originals.

I wonder if independent photohosting sites without big players behind
them (Google, Yahoo, etc.) would be surviving, as many people who don't 
care for particular features are switching to using FB and G+
for showing thousands of their unsorted snapshots.

Igor



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OT - shooting from tricopters

[Igor Roshchin]

Here is an interesting way of shooting videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0_tGHlR7g&playnext=1&list=PL752B3230A0D43C28
(and an interesting video)


It's funny, when I was a kid I was fantasizing about having
remote-controlled flying object that could be used for shooting videos,
shooting my castles that was building with toy wooden bricks in my room 
and the toy-soldiers that were placed in those castles
(shooting with small objects that would be knocking off those), etc.
I don't think any RC planes or copters existed at that point
(at least they were not available where I grew up).

Igor



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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Bruce Walker]

How about just using a custom screen-saver? In Preferences Desktop &
Screensaver, click + and choose "Add folder of pictures". You can't
configure the transition rate, but other options are under Options...
. If you set a Hot Corner, you can start the screen saver immediately
by sweeping the mouse into a screen corner (I use lower-right).


On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run
> a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro.
> I'm not particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I
> despise iPhoto.
>
> What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory
> tree, of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to set
> the rate, and choose whether to play in random order, or whatever order
> they're in the directories.
>
> And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.
>
> Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing
> programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember their
> names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so programs with
> "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.
>
>Larry
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http://roman.blakout.net/picture.php?/364/category/46
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Re: PESOS Cats

[Rick Womer]

I like the composition and rendering of the second one, Joe.  The first one 
doesn't do much for me.

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- Original Message -
From: jn289 
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 10:28 PM
Subject: PESOS Cats

Ann, these are for you, and whoever else is a cat person. Joe

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219712 This was shot  March 2012. 
Shot through the glass pane. This cat was sitting by our back door. It was very 
cold out and I guess this cat was looking for a warm place. My dog would not 
have agreed. Look at the long fangs ? Do cats all have long fangs ?


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=5951342  This cat was hiding on my 
friend's steps. You may have seen this before..

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Re: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Frank!

For some reason it got only 27 views in 24 hours, so I tried bumping up the 
traffic.  It's now had 75 views, which is in the normal range.

I guess I need to work on my titles!

Cheers,

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From: "knarftheria...@gmail.com" 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

I tend to avoid images of violence, but I'm glad I looked at this one.

;-)

Seriously, a lovely, quiet (that's not the word I'm looking for but it will do 
for now) photo. I like it a great deal.

Cheers,
frank 

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
Christopher Hitchens

--- Original Message ---

From: Rick Womer 
Sent: August 1, 2012 8/1/12
To: Pentax List 
Subject: PESO - Bloody flesh-ripping claws!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16162877

(Jeez, what does it take to get people to look at a PESO these days?)

Rick


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Re: mac slideshow software recommendations?

[Paul Stenquist]

IPhoto will do all of that, and it's easy to work with. 

On Aug 2, 2012, at 12:05 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

> 
> On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
>> LR?
> 
> But lightroom would mean reading in a bunch of jpegs into a special catalog 
> in lightroom.  
> 
> Preview almost does what I want, apart from being able to use the second 
> screen for something else, being able to set up the period each picture is 
> displayed, and being able to choose the order of the pictures.
> 
> I found xee, and it almost does what I want, except that it doesn't seem to 
> work. At least not the second time I try to run it after rebooting my 
> computer.
> 
> 
>> 
>> stan
>> 
>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 10:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2012, at 8:35 PM, jn289 wrote:
>>> 
 Larry, you can make a slide show with acrobat...Joe
>>> 
>>> I don't want a slideshow file.  I just want to point the image viewer at a 
>>> directory of photos, or select a bunch of photos and have it show them in a 
>>> slideshow.
>>> 
>>> 
 
 
> There's going to be a party at my house this weekend, and I'd like to run 
> a slideshow of some of my better photos on my macbook pro. I'm not 
> particularly enamored of preview, though it sort of works, and I despise 
> iPhoto. 
> What I want is  program that I can print to a directory, or directory 
> tree, of jpegs, and have it cycle through them. I'd like to be able to 
> set the rate, and choose whether to play in random order, or whatever 
> order they're in the directories.
> 
> And, as with everything these days, I don't want to pay for it.
> 
> Back when Linux was my primary desktop, there were several image viewing 
> programs that would do this, but with advanced CRS, I don't remember 
> their names, and there are, of course, twenty seven million or so 
> programs with "image" or "view" in their name under Linux.
> 
> Larry
> 
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Re: PESO -How many of you remember this

[Rick Womer]

Not only do I remember them, there's still one on my bike, and it works well. I 
don't ride at night often anymore, so I haven't replaced it; but it's 
occasionally useful so I haven't taken it off.

Nice evocative pic, Joe.

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16219674

This was at a yard sale

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OT Rusyn/Lemk ancestry

[mike wilson]

I know a few folks here are of this background.  A friend of mine 
(excellent English, dry sense of humour) in Central Europe is thinking 
of starting a company to help people research and provide guidance to 
visit ancestral homes.


If anyone would be interested in such a service, please contact me 
offlist.  You can also pass my email address to other interested parties.

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Re: OT: ebooks

[mike wilson]

On 02/08/2012 03:02, Mark Roberts wrote:

odd to say, but I created my first book before I ever read an book. Having 
acquired an Android tablet six months ago, I only recently tried downloading an 
book to read on it. Now I'm hooked. project Gutenberg is great: thus far I've 
downloaded books by Conrad, Dickens, Volaire and P.G. Wodehouse. More to come!


I have about 20gigs of kindleMOBI files if you want a copy.  Could send 
you a box of DVDs and you can then pass them on to anyone else who 
desires to be gazing at a screen for the next few decades.


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Re: OT: Are all men predisposed to be car junkies?

[David Mann]

On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:02 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> One of them lived two blocks away around the corner from my house, and that's 
> where they started their spree from. Mine was the first vehicle they attacked.

Idiots, I thought the first rule of crime is that you don't shit in your own 
back yard.

Dave
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Re: OT: London Olympics 2012

[David Mann]

On Aug 2, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> Since John brought it up, I'll use the original hijacked thread to
> note today's Google Doodle.

I think they're doing a new Olympic-themed doodle every day at the moment.  I'm 
getting a table tennis one right now.

Dave


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Re: July's best of set

[Larry Colen]

On Aug 1, 2012, at 7:14 PM, jn289 wrote:

> Larry, that's a nice collection of photos, Joe

Thanks Joe.


> 
>> Here are my best from July:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157630616628954/
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