Re: Photonet

[David Mann]

On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:32 AM, jn289  wrote:

> Anyone having trouble with PhotoNet. ?  Images are not loading..Joe

FWIW I've been having trouble with them for ages.  I think it's one of their ad 
servers or something and if I leave it long enough it'll eventually come up.

Dave


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Re: PESO - Yuriy

[kwaller]

Looks like you nailed it!

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: 

Subject: PESO - Yuriy


I know I've been posting a lot of bike messenger pix of late but when I see 
one of my buddies zipping by it's hard not to snap.


I kind of feel like I really nailed this one. It's pretty much full frame 
(trimmed a teensy bit off the left to get him a bit more off-centre). 
Here's Yuriy:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/juri.html?m=0

As you can see he's one of those crazy trackbike-with-no-brakes guys. He's 
real fast: routinely finishes top five in our local messenger races.


Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Yuriy

[Paul Stenquist]

Well done. 

Paul
On Nov 2, 2012, at 11:21 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> I know I've been posting a lot of bike messenger pix of late but when I see 
> one of my buddies zipping by it's hard not to snap. 
> 
> I kind of feel like I really nailed this one. It's pretty much full frame 
> (trimmed a teensy bit off the left to get him a bit more off-centre). Here's 
> Yuriy:
> 
> http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/juri.html?m=0
> 
> As you can see he's one of those crazy trackbike-with-no-brakes guys. He's 
> real fast: routinely finishes top five in our local messenger races. 
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> frank
> 
> "If the world were clear, art would not exist." -- Albert Camus
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Re: PESO - Yuriy

[jn289]

Yes Frank, you nailed it, So how do you guys stop with no brakes, do 
you use the foot against the back wheel tire or just stop pedaling ? 
Joe




I know I've been posting a lot of bike messenger pix of late but 
when I see one of my buddies zipping by it's hard not to snap.


I kind of feel like I really nailed this one. It's pretty much full 
frame (trimmed a teensy bit off the left to get him a bit more 
off-centre). Here's Yuriy:


 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/juri.html?m=0

As you can see he's one of those crazy trackbike-with-no-brakes 
guys. He's real fast: routinely finishes top five in our local 
messenger races.


Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - An evening downtown

[jn289]

Paul, Colorful and I guess cold by their coats..Nice Joe




http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16563456&size=lg

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PESOs - two

[jn289]

 A couple of photos late night or should I say early morning..Joe



A late night leaf  after the storm 
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16563463


 And a late night self portrait 
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16563460



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Re: Just Back from Miami--Little Havana

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Chris and Joe!  Much appreciated.  I was quite surprised to see a bike 
like that!  Pretty cool.  Cheers, Christine 



On Nov 2, 2012, at 2:13 PM, jn289  wrote:

> Christine, A Very Nice Collection..Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi Everyone:
>> 
>> I just got back from Miami about 4 hours ago.  The trip was work related, 
>> but I did sneak off to Little Havana on Friday night.  It was fun to do some 
>> night shooting.  ISOs very high in many of these shots--1600 - 5000 ISO.  
>> Lightroom handled the noise reduction well I thought.  Sorry I haven't been 
>> around much--work is insane!
>> 
>> http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine/Chicago
>> 
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PESO - Yuriy

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

I know I've been posting a lot of bike messenger pix of late but when I see one 
of my buddies zipping by it's hard not to snap. 

I kind of feel like I really nailed this one. It's pretty much full frame 
(trimmed a teensy bit off the left to get him a bit more off-centre). Here's 
Yuriy:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/11/juri.html?m=0

As you can see he's one of those crazy trackbike-with-no-brakes guys. He's real 
fast: routinely finishes top five in our local messenger races. 

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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PESO - An evening downtown

[Paul Stenquist]

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16563456&size=lg

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Re: Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

[Tom C]

> From: Bob Sullivan 
>
> Tom,
> Yes, I miss the days of Kodachrome and 'what you shoot is what you get!'
> I don't need more hours in front of the computer screen on account of
> photography.
> But I do think my images have improved, and God bless shake reduction.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>

Agreed. The flip-side of that, as we all know is both film and digital
often do not render WYSIWYG, it's more WYSINWYG.

Both because the media doesn't respond exactly as the human eye and
because we have approximately 3 pounds of gray matter that does image
processing before presenting it to us for our appraisal.

Tom C.

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PESO - Sunrise at Mount Rainier

[Tom C]

Taken from the appropriately named Sunrise area of the park. Easily
accessible, yet over an hour drive from the campground, so it was up @
5, make coffee and drive in the dark to get there.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1656&size=lg

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Re: Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

[Tom C]

> From: David Parsons 
>
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>>
>> I'm pained by the necessity to somehow adjust every image that I think
>> meets my standards. Luckily or unluckily that's 1% or less of the
>> images I take. It used to be zilch. I either made the shot or I
>> didn't. There was no cropping, exposure adjustment, curves,
>> saturation, etc.
>>
>> I think I've become a better photographer in the last decade. Have I,
>> or is it just that I now have the ability to manipulate in a digital
>> darkroom? Before Photoshop and film scanners I never would have
>> dreamed of doing what I can now do. That was the bailiwick of film
>> labs and professionals. I guess if that made THEM better
>> photographers, in a sense, it does me as well. On the one hand I love
>> the ability, yet on the other I despise the imposition, the innocence
>> lost (likely perceived) of analog film, the WYSIWIG aspect for film
>> photographers without access to a darkroom.
>
> They are different processes, with different mindsets involved.  No
> matter what lab technicians can/could do with your film, you took the
> originals and composed the pictures.
>
> If digital post processing is a cramping your style, how about
> shooting JPG for a while and let the camera do the cooking.  Find
> settings that give you results that you like and do that for a while.
> There is no rule that says you must use RAW and do the post
> processing.  Simplify.
>
>> I'm not sure I'd ever have the patience, time, or funds for a wet
>> darkroom, even though I can sense the allure.
>>
>
> I feel the same way about film, sadly.  I have about 50 rolls of
> expired film that I've gotten from photo friends that I keep imagining
> that I'll use for street shooting, but I imagine they'll go to waste.
>
>
>
>> Tom C.

The problem is I tend to be a perfectionist in this. Knowing that I
have the post-processing ability means I will. :)

I have a bottom refrigerator drawer of 135 and 220 film that's been
sitting there since 2005. Mostly Velvia and Provia. I should find out
how it works after 7 years.  :(

Tom C.

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Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Thanks, Stan, and thanks to everyone who waded in on this one.

Lots of thoughtful and thought-provoking comments. 

I think I agree with the majority. He was in public and my portrayal of him 
wasn't demeaning or insulting. 

For me it's a different situation if one sleeping in a doorway or on a sidewalk 
grate; my feeling is that's their "bedroom" and is as close to privacy as they 
may ever get. I will always ask before photographing in that situation.

I will agree with Dan: the vast majority of those sleeping in the streets have 
serious substance addictions, a major mental illness or (more likely) both. 
Because they don't have a fixed address they can't get welfare, without a home 
or place to become presentable they will never get a job and the downward 
spiral is inevitable.

I want to portray such people with dignity and compassion and frankly I think I 
succeeded here.

Thanks again for all the thoughts.

Cheers,
 frank




--- Original Message ---

From: Stan Halpin 
Sent: November 1, 2012 11/1/12
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Subject: Re: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour

I generally do not like street people or beggar photos because of the 
"exploitation" factor. There seems to be a fine line between legitimate social 
commentary and "hey, look at the funny bag lady." However I really like this 
shot Frank. I wouldn't want to hang it on my wall, but think it would be a good 
candidate for your People of Toronto book. What makes it for me is that the 
shot doesn't just show the man, but also the reaction of all those around him, 
turning their heads away, rushing on about their business.

stan

On Nov 1, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Don Guthrie wrote:

> The man is in a public place doing what he does. I don't think it is 
> exploiting to take and post the photo.
> 
> That said I don't think the picture works for me as a because I see people 
> but I don't see their reaction to him.
> 
> 
> 
> pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
>> Message: 14
>> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 03:01:29 + (UTC)
>> From:"knarftheria...@gmail.com"  
>> To:PDML@pdml.net
>> Subject: PESO - Bloor Station, Rush Hour
>> Message-ID:
>>  
>> <1900588578.228339.1351738900501.javamail.se...@ap0.p2.fra.samsungsocialhub.net>
>>  
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> Well, I have a dilemma here and your opinion would help me. I do take photos 
>> of beggars from time to time but I try not to exploit them and do try to 
>> show them in a very "human" way.
>> 
>> So here's today's PESO:
>> 
>>  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/bloor-station-rush-hour.html?m=0
>> 
>> Exploiting or no? It's obviously a jarring image and one that many will find 
>> uncomfortable to look at (indeed one ~should~ feel uncomfortable).
>> 
>> However my thoughts are, firstly, that I take pictures of all sorts of 
>> people from business people to firefighters to construction workers; beggars 
>> are as much a part of a city as anyone else. Secondly, I think there's a 
>> story here that goes beyond simply, "here's a beggar, let's gawk." I won't 
>> tell you what I think that story is; if the viewer can't see stories then 
>> the photo obviously isn't working (for that viewer).
>> 
>> So if you have thoughts on this photo and whether I should display it I 
>> would love to hear them.
>> 
>> And comments on the photo itself are welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> frank

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Re: GESO: Sandy's Visit to My Neighborhood

[Bob Sullivan]

Thanks Dan, nice to have a firsthand report.  Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> The damage in our area was not severe, but we are without heat and
> electricity for five days now.  The following images are not dramatic,
> nor do they have any artistic value, but they show what has happened
> in my immediate area.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1043197
>
> Dan
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: More free Nik Software?

[Paul Sorenson]

If you sign into your account, you can go to Chat and get the info that 
way, too.


-p

On 11/2/2012 5:17 PM, Brian Walters wrote:


Thanks, Darren.

I saw the same message but it didn't register in my befuddled mind until
I saw your message.

I've emailed them - be interesting to see what results.



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Darren Addy :


You may recall not too long before Nik was purchased by Google where
we (those of us that were interested) got some free Nik Software,
namely
Silver Efex Pro 2
and
Color Efex Pro 3 (standalone).

No doubt, you like me got an email recently from Nik Software & Google
(like within the past 24 hours). My gmail does not load images
immediately (until I click a link) and so this is what I saw in the
email that I got from them:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/WouldLikeMyFreeCopyHDREfexPro2.png

As you can see the ALT text for the image that loads says that I
qualify for a free copy of HDR Efex Pro 2.
Now I have to tell you that I absolutely hate the imagery that usually
passes for "HDR" these days, but I know that it can be done WELL (as
in photo-realistically and not over-cooked). And, hey! If I qualify...

So, I emailed their support team this morning and said simply:

Attaching a screenshot of the email I received from Google + Nik last
night. Please tell me how to receive the free copy of HDR Efex Pro 2
that I
qualify for.

Thank you.

- - -

I received an auto-reply this morning that it would be 1-2 business
days before I heard from them, but just now I received from them a
download link and serial number for HDR Efex Pro 2 (which you can see
here is a $99.95 program:
http://www.niksoftware.com/store/usa/entry.php?view=singlepurchase/HDR2.shtml

).

So, if you received a similar email, you might want to go and log-in
to your Nik Software account and see if your download link is there
(and if it isn't  you may want to make a gentle inquiry). Good luck!






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Re: More free Nik Software?

[Brian Walters]

Thanks, Darren.

I saw the same message but it didn't register in my befuddled mind  
until I saw your message.


I've emailed them - be interesting to see what results.



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting Darren Addy :


You may recall not too long before Nik was purchased by Google where
we (those of us that were interested) got some free Nik Software,
namely
Silver Efex Pro 2
and
Color Efex Pro 3 (standalone).

No doubt, you like me got an email recently from Nik Software & Google
(like within the past 24 hours). My gmail does not load images
immediately (until I click a link) and so this is what I saw in the
email that I got from them:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/WouldLikeMyFreeCopyHDREfexPro2.png

As you can see the ALT text for the image that loads says that I
qualify for a free copy of HDR Efex Pro 2.
Now I have to tell you that I absolutely hate the imagery that usually
passes for "HDR" these days, but I know that it can be done WELL (as
in photo-realistically and not over-cooked). And, hey! If I qualify...

So, I emailed their support team this morning and said simply:

Attaching a screenshot of the email I received from Google + Nik last
night. Please tell me how to receive the free copy of HDR Efex Pro 2 that I
qualify for.

Thank you.

- - -

I received an auto-reply this morning that it would be 1-2 business
days before I heard from them, but just now I received from them a
download link and serial number for HDR Efex Pro 2 (which you can see
here is a $99.95 program:
http://www.niksoftware.com/store/usa/entry.php?view=singlepurchase/HDR2.shtml
).

So, if you received a similar email, you might want to go and log-in
to your Nik Software account and see if your download link is there
(and if it isn't  you may want to make a gentle inquiry). Good luck!




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RE: OT - 1DmIIn

[Bob W]

Very nice.

His earwax looks a bit like a cheetah.

B

> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Steve Cottrell
> Sent: 02 November 2012 21:36
> To: pentax list
> Subject: Re: OT - 1DmIIn
> 
> Stef's camera came today - he might not look it but he's thrilled!
> Immaculate, all complete, mint in box, less than 10k shutter presses.
> Here he is studying the menu setups!
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Cotty
> 
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Re: OT - 1DmIIn

[Steve Cottrell]

Stef's camera came today - he might not look it but he's thrilled!
Immaculate, all complete, mint in box, less than 10k shutter presses.
Here he is studying the menu setups!



Cheers
Cotty


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Re: GESO: Sandy's Visit to My Neighborhood

[Jack Davis]

Gas price is less there that here in northern California. That likely doesn't 
help much. ;-)
Hope the services are all back on very soon.
Thanks for the snaps, Dan!
 
Jack



- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola 
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:23 PM
Subject: GESO: Sandy's Visit to My Neighborhood

The damage in our area was not severe, but we are without heat and
electricity for five days now.  The following images are not dramatic,
nor do they have any artistic value, but they show what has happened
in my immediate area.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1043197

Dan
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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GESO: Sandy's Visit to My Neighborhood

[Daniel J. Matyola]

The damage in our area was not severe, but we are without heat and
electricity for five days now.  The following images are not dramatic,
nor do they have any artistic value, but they show what has happened
in my immediate area.

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1043197

Dan
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Re: Geso: Portraits of Four men

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very well done.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> I came across these four men during a recent photo walk. Their curiosity
> about what I was doing led them to let me take these photos. I don't think
> the world has always treated them kindly, but they seem to be getting along
> in their own way.
>
> C&C encouraged and read.
>
> http://donspix.posterous.com/four-street-portraits-men-whom-the-world-has
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Re: OT: Film Humor

[Larry Colen]

On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> We'll see what develops in 9 months.
A little prints.

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Re: OT: Film Humor

[Daniel J. Matyola]

We'll see what develops in 9 months.
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On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> In the end she'll be in a real fix, then hung out to dry.
>
> On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
>> I use Firefox, and it works fine for me.  Must be Sandy messin' with
>> the internet.
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Brian Walters  
>> wrote:
>>> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>>>
 http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bar-drinks-clipart.jpg
 Dan Matyola
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Odd.  When I click that link in Firefox, the page redirects instantly to:
>>>
>>> http://themetapicture.com/media/picture.jpe
>>>
>>> and all I see there (or don't see, actually) is a 1 x 1 pixel gif.
>>>
>>> I tried it with Chrome and the cartoon image appeared OK.  Cute!
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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Re: OT: Film Humor

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In the end she'll be in a real fix, then hung out to dry.

On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> I use Firefox, and it works fine for me.  Must be Sandy messin' with
> the internet.
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Brian Walters  
> wrote:
>> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>> 
>>> http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bar-drinks-clipart.jpg
>>> Dan Matyola
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Odd.  When I click that link in Firefox, the page redirects instantly to:
>> 
>> http://themetapicture.com/media/picture.jpe
>> 
>> and all I see there (or don't see, actually) is a 1 x 1 pixel gif.
>> 
>> I tried it with Chrome and the cartoon image appeared OK.  Cute!
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Cheers
>> 
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>> ++
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Re: OT: Film Humor

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I use Firefox, and it works fine for me.  Must be Sandy messin' with
the internet.
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> Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :
>
>> http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bar-drinks-clipart.jpg
>> Dan Matyola
>
>
>
>
> Odd.  When I click that link in Firefox, the page redirects instantly to:
>
> http://themetapicture.com/media/picture.jpe
>
> and all I see there (or don't see, actually) is a 1 x 1 pixel gif.
>
> I tried it with Chrome and the cartoon image appeared OK.  Cute!
>
>
> --
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>
> Brian
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> ++
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Re: OT: Film Humor

[Brian Walters]

Quoting "Daniel J. Matyola" :


http://static.themetapicture.com/media/funny-bar-drinks-clipart.jpg
Dan Matyola




Odd.  When I click that link in Firefox, the page redirects instantly to:

http://themetapicture.com/media/picture.jpe

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Re: October faves

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Quoting Larry Colen :
> 
>> Warning, spiders:
>> November bestof photo set.
>> Warning, spiders:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631688451606/
> 
> 
> Another good month
> 
> Of the spiders, this is my favourite:  LRC78863.jpg.  I think you could draw 
> a Fibonacci Spiral in that one :-)>
> 
> The two bird shots are interesting - wonderful patterns on the wings.  What 
> did you do in post to produce the white background?

The sky was overcast, and in the process of bringing out the detail in the 
underside of the hawk, the sky got totally blown out.


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Re: October faves

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Larry Colen :


Warning, spiders:
November bestof photo set.
Warning, spiders:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631688451606/



Another good month

Of the spiders, this is my favourite:  LRC78863.jpg.  I think you  
could draw a Fibonacci Spiral in that one :-)>


The two bird shots are interesting - wonderful patterns on the wings.   
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Re: Photo Net is down

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Paul, Thanks, The small previews are coming up now slowly, but the 
large photos are not..Joe






Hi Joe,

Your page comes right up and looks good.

Paul
On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:07 PM, jn289  wrote:

 Sorry that is a wrong date, but my page is not working, unless it 
has something to do with the storm. Can anyone see my page ? I can 
only see the first photo.. Thanks Joe


 http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn




 IT IS DOWN, Joe


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Re: Photo Net is down

[Bob Sullivan]

Joe,  All working in Chicago.  Bob S.

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> something to do with the storm. Can anyone see my page ? I can only see the
> first photo.. Thanks Joe
>
> http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn
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>> IT IS DOWN, Joe
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Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[Tom C]

> From: John Sessoms 
> I'm going to try to let this be my last response because it's gotten
> really repetitious.
>
> You make a valid point instead of just endlessly repeating that "it goes
> to eleven". If I were "still stuck with a K10D", the K-5 might appeal to
> me as an upgrade.
>
> Although ...
>
> I was out shooting with the K10D on Halloween, and it ain't that bad.

Practically any camera is capable of rendering a nice looking image.
It's all a matter of degrees of difference and shooting conditions. Of
course you realize that John, otherwise you wouldn't feel as you do.

I have an *ist D. I skipped the K10D and got the K20D instead, then
the K7. In retrospect, I wish I would have skipped the K7 and waited
for the K5. The K5 simply didn't excite me enough to upgrade from a
K7. IMO the K5 was what the K7 should have been and I didn't care to
pay Pentax twice.

That being said, I've switched to Nikon and Sony because I feel that
I'm actually getting significant improvements for the money spent.  I
see the K20D through the K5 models as only offering incremental
improvements. It becomes difficult to justify laying down $1200 -
$1300 for new models with only incremental changes. Trying to quantify
(impossible I know), if a camera provides a 10% increase in image
quality or handling in some aspect over a prior model, why would I
think it reasonable to pay 100% of the price time and again?

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Re: Photo Net is down

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Hi Joe, 

Your page comes right up and looks good.

Paul
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> something to do with the storm. Can anyone see my page ? I can only see the 
> first photo.. Thanks Joe
> 
> http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn
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>> IT IS DOWN, Joe
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Re: Just Back from Miami--Little Havana

[jn289]

Christine, A Very Nice Collection..Joe







Hi Everyone:

I just got back from Miami about 4 hours ago.  The trip was work 
related, but I did sneak off to Little Havana on Friday night.  It 
was fun to do some night shooting.  ISOs very high in many of these 
shots--1600 - 5000 ISO.  Lightroom handled the noise reduction well 
I thought.  Sorry I haven't been around much--work is insane!


http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana

Cheers, Christine/Chicago


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Re: Photo Net is down

[Paul Stenquist]

It's not down here and has been coming up fine for me all day.

Paul


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> IT IS DOWN, Joe
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> http://blog.photo.net/2008/03/ahhh-photonet-is-down/
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Re: Photo Net is down

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Sorry that is a wrong date, but my page is not working, unless it has 
something to do with the storm. Can anyone see my page ? I can only 
see the first photo.. Thanks Joe


http://photo.net/photos/pjjdxn




IT IS DOWN, Joe


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Photo Net is down

[jn289]

IT IS DOWN, Joe


http://blog.photo.net/2008/03/ahhh-photonet-is-down/

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Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

[Tom C]

> From: John Sessoms 
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise
> Message-ID: <5093f4ed.20...@nc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
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> I didn't say anything because I haven't seen it. It's not readily
> apparent on my monitor & Photonet won't let me zoom in for a closer
> inspection.

:)

I looked at the image for at least 20 minutes and didn't see them.

You're right Mark, there was 3 more I didn't catch. Thanks.

All cleaned up now.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16562612&size=lg

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Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

[kwaller]

Part of the reason the police are trying to stop people from getting to 
their homes is ongoing natural gas leaks from destroyed homes - the fear of 
igniting a fire.


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "jn289" 

Subject: Re: Nasty Storm East Coast



Igor, Thanks. Joe

P.S. I was just listening to a call in show on Short Wave radio, where a 
lot of people were calling in and telling of horror stories of New York 
and New Jersey where the police are arresting people who are trying to get 
back into their own homes..





Joe,
It's nice to hear that you are safe!
Some of my friends in northern NJ are still disconnected.

Igor

Fri Nov 2 12:39:07 EDT 2012
jn289 wrote:

Well, my first post on the storm below, did not do good for us and
our neighbors.

We lost our electric on Monday and got it back on late Thursday. We
still had phone service. Trees down in the neighborhood, we just had
big branches fall, which none hit the cars. Some hit the roof of the
house and the garage, as we heard them hit during the night. The
street looked like a war zone and the whole area was dark. Since we
have well water we lost that also. There are still areas north of
Philadelphia without power, so again we were and are lucky.  We had a
light show in our area as all the transformers on the electric poles
were blowing, We were seeing Red, Purple,Blue and Green flashes in
the sky as they blew.
Total darkness at night for three nights


Now NJ is another story, lots and lots and lots of damage in the
shore areas..Joe



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Re: Photonet

[Darren Addy]

Here's a useful site for asking this question about any site you are
having problems with (at any time)
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/


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Re: October faves

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On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Very nice.  I like the spiders and the birds, but the first is my favorite.

thanks.

> Dan Matyola
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> 
> On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> Warning, spiders:
>> November bestof photo set.
>> Warning, spiders:
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631688451606/
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Re: Geso: Portraits of Four men

[jn289]

Don, I like them, VERY NICE, nice black and whites...Joe



I came across these four men during a recent photo walk. Their 
curiosity about what I was doing led them to let me take these 
photos. I don't think the world has always treated them kindly, but 
they seem to be getting along in their own way.


C&C encouraged and read.

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Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

[lrc]

They are fibognocci.

Paul Stenquist  wrote:

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>On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Kenneth Waller 
>wrote:
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>> 
>> that's just nuts!
>
>dough! I thought they were baguettes waiting to go in the oven.
>
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Larry Colen >> Subject: Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure
>>> 
>>> Here's one:
>>> 
>>>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8147015170/in/set-72157631909131126
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Anyone having trouble with PhotoNet. ?  Images are not loading..Joe

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Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

[jn289]

Igor, Thanks. Joe

P.S. I was just listening to a call in show on Short Wave radio, 
where a lot of people were calling in and telling of horror stories 
of New York and New Jersey where the police are arresting people who 
are trying to get back into their own homes..





Joe,
It's nice to hear that you are safe!
Some of my friends in northern NJ are still disconnected.

Igor

Fri Nov 2 12:39:07 EDT 2012
jn289 wrote:

Well, my first post on the storm below, did not do good for us and
our neighbors.

We lost our electric on Monday and got it back on late Thursday. We
still had phone service. Trees down in the neighborhood, we just had
big branches fall, which none hit the cars. Some hit the roof of the
house and the garage, as we heard them hit during the night. The
street looked like a war zone and the whole area was dark. Since we
have well water we lost that also. There are still areas north of
Philadelphia without power, so again we were and are lucky.  We had a
light show in our area as all the transformers on the electric poles
were blowing, We were seeing Red, Purple,Blue and Green flashes in
the sky as they blew.
Total darkness at night for three nights


Now NJ is another story, lots and lots and lots of damage in the
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Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

[jn289]

Igor, Thanks. Joe

P.S. I was just listening to a call in show on Short Wave radio, 
where a lot of people were calling in and telling of horror stories 
of New York and New Jersey where the police are arresting people who 
are trying to get back into their own homes..





Joe,
It's nice to hear that you are safe!
Some of my friends in northern NJ are still disconnected.

Igor

Fri Nov 2 12:39:07 EDT 2012
jn289 wrote:

Well, my first post on the storm below, did not do good for us and
our neighbors.

We lost our electric on Monday and got it back on late Thursday. We
still had phone service. Trees down in the neighborhood, we just had
big branches fall, which none hit the cars. Some hit the roof of the
house and the garage, as we heard them hit during the night. The
street looked like a war zone and the whole area was dark. Since we
have well water we lost that also. There are still areas north of
Philadelphia without power, so again we were and are lucky.  We had a
light show in our area as all the transformers on the electric poles
were blowing, We were seeing Red, Purple,Blue and Green flashes in
the sky as they blew.
Total darkness at night for three nights


Now NJ is another story, lots and lots and lots of damage in the
shore areas..Joe

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Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[John Sessoms]

From: Matthew Hunt

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:33 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:


The incremental increase in pixel count & the better auto-focus with
lenses I don't have and am not going to buy don't impress me. Nor the
other "improvements". The weather resistance would be nice to have but
by itself does not add enough value to make me want it.


As somebody who is still stuck with a K10D, what appeals to me most
about the K-5 is none of those things you list; it's the low noise,
high-ISO capability, and dynamic range (three sides of the same coin).
That's what drops my jaw when I see people's K-5 shots. I'm surprised
that you're not even impressed enough to make note of it.


I'm going to try to let this be my last response because it's gotten
really repetitious.

You make a valid point instead of just endlessly repeating that "it goes
to eleven". If I were "still stuck with a K10D", the K-5 might appeal to
me as an upgrade.

Although ...

I was out shooting with the K10D on Halloween, and it ain't that bad.

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Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu]

If you're happy with the K20D, I don't see why you should change it.
K-5's (sensor) limits are definitely much higher, but if you use the
K20D where it gives good results...

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On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 6:38 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> It's still not enough to make me want to buy one.
>
> Thank you very much.

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Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

[Igor Roshchin]

Joe,
It's nice to hear that you are safe!
Some of my friends in northern NJ are still disconnected.

Igor

Fri Nov 2 12:39:07 EDT 2012
jn289 wrote:

Well, my first post on the storm below, did not do good for us and 
our neighbors.

We lost our electric on Monday and got it back on late Thursday. We 
still had phone service. Trees down in the neighborhood, we just had 
big branches fall, which none hit the cars. Some hit the roof of the 
house and the garage, as we heard them hit during the night. The 
street looked like a war zone and the whole area was dark. Since we 
have well water we lost that also. There are still areas north of 
Philadelphia without power, so again we were and are lucky.  We had a 
light show in our area as all the transformers on the electric poles 
were blowing, We were seeing Red, Purple,Blue and Green flashes in 
the sky as they blew.
Total darkness at night for three nights


Now NJ is another story, lots and lots and lots of damage in the 
shore areas..Joe

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RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[J.C. O'Connell]

its probably worth $900 to me, but I aint got the cash.

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Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:49 PM
To: pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

From: "J.C. O'Connell"

> You can get a k5 for $900 not $1200.

If it's worth that much to you buy it.

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Re: OT: Your recipe for great photography tutorials

[Igor Roshchin]

".. using your existing kit..." go and buy new, better equipment,
...  or, better yet, preprinted photos.
 
HAR!



Thu Nov 1 17:10:12 EDT 2012
Darren Addy wrote:

I'm sorry, I couldn't resist after seeing this fantastic 
tutorial on "How do I shoot the moon?" which is subtitled
"Discover how to shoot the moon using your existing camera kit in just
3 simple steps."
http://news.dphotographer.co.uk/news/uncategorized/how-do-i-shoot-the-moon/

My comment is "awaiting moderation", but I doubt it will see the light
of day. But you can see it here:
http://www.antiqueauto.org/assets/dphotographerUKshootmoon2.png

Who knew the recipe to creating great photo tutorials was so simple?
: )
: )
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Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[John Sessoms]

It's still not enough to make me want to buy one.

Thank you very much.

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Re: Nasty Storm East Coast

[jn289]

Well, my first post on the storm below, did not do good for us and 
our neighbors.


We lost our electric on Monday and got it back on late Thursday. We 
still had phone service. Trees down in the neighborhood, we just had 
big branches fall, which none hit the cars. Some hit the roof of the 
house and the garage, as we heard them hit during the night. The 
street looked like a war zone and the whole area was dark. Since we 
have well water we lost that also. There are still areas north of 
Philadelphia without power, so again we were and are lucky.  We had a 
light show in our area as all the transformers on the electric poles 
were blowing, We were seeing Red, Purple,Blue and Green flashes in 
the sky as they blew.

Total darkness at night for three nights


Now NJ is another story, lots and lots and lots of damage in the 
shore areas..Joe












I hope everyone on the East Coast remains OK.

Ann, I was calling just to how you are..Joe

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Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

[John Sessoms]

I didn't say anything because I haven't seen it. It's not readily
apparent on my monitor & Photonet won't let me zoom in for a closer
inspection.


From: Tom C

How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this
image? Almost center frame.


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Tom C  wrote:

Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt.
Rainier National Park.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16555015&size=lg

Tom C.


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Geso: Portraits of Four men

[Don Guthrie]

I came across these four men during a recent photo walk. Their curiosity 
about what I was doing led them to let me take these photos. I don't 
think the world has always treated them kindly, but they seem to be 
getting along in their own way.


C&C encouraged and read.

http://donspix.posterous.com/four-street-portraits-men-whom-the-world-has

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Re: October faves

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice.  I like the spiders and the birds, but the first is my favorite.
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Warning, spiders:
> November bestof photo set.
> Warning, spiders:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157631688451606/
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Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I assumed it was on my monitor!
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Tom C  wrote:
> How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this
> image? Almost center frame.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Tom C  wrote:
>> Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt.
>> Rainier National Park.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16555015&size=lg
>>
>> Tom C.
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Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

[Paul Stenquist]

On Nov 2, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:

> 
> that's just nuts!

dough! I thought they were baguettes waiting to go in the oven.

> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Larry Colen > Subject: Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure
>> 
>> Here's one:
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8147015170/in/set-72157631909131126
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Re: Poll: Your favorite composition structure

[Kenneth Waller]

that's just nuts!

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>
>Here's one:
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>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8147015170/in/set-72157631909131126
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After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[luiz felipe]

Matthew, to John:
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:33 PM, John Sessoms nc.rr.com> wrote:



The incremental increase in pixel count & the better auto-focus with
lenses I don't have and am not going to buy don't impress me. Nor 
the
other "improvements". The weather resistance would be nice to have 
but

by itself does not add enough value to make me want it.


As somebody who is still stuck with a K10D, what appeals to me most
about the K-5 is none of those things you list; it's the low noise,
high-ISO capability, and dynamic range (three sides of the same coin).
That's what drops my jaw when I see people's K-5 shots. I'm surprised
that you're not even impressed enough to make note of it.




Well I am not telling anyone to buy or not to buy anything but...

Had the money, would gladly trade the Kr for a K30 - street duty, 
everyday - and get a K5IIs for the nights and jobs. Not that I'm not 
happy with said Kr, I like very much my camera... just the newer ones 
would help me now and then, and that's enough for me. Price-wise they 
look good, still cheaper than others and at least equal, usually best. 
Ok, some features shine, some do not - that's life. Since my money is 
scarce and I can use the Kr, I keep it, use it, and try to save. Still 
happy.


I'd also probably have uses for a D600, a 645d, and a new 1911. Cars, 
make mine a Stratos, lime - or maybe a Delta Integrale 16v in silver. Do 
not need them, but feel free to buy me one - even a miniature. Come to 
think of it, my '96 Golf needs front shocks. Cheaper than upgrading 
something I like just because it's old. Newer are safer and offer better 
mileage, so that's why one day I'll replace it. Not in a hurry, unless 
it's a gift. Still happy.


I use Canon and Nikon at least twice a month, could live with them but 
would rather go K30/ K5iis with lenses I currently have and am buying. 
My pics still look mine with other brands, unfortunately there is no 
such thing as *become a better photographer buying brand L*.


D3100's AF faster here, mine still acceptable. XTi getting beaten all 
the time here, still making useful pics. My friends' flashes beat my 
285, but I'm using it so long I only want a better one when I can't 
bounce it. My lenses are better than consumer zooms and kit lenses my 
friends own - main point I'd stay Pentax right now. While I don't buy a 
better flash I bounce my 285 and chimp, while I don't get the new 
cameras I cheat with Noise Ninja. Happy.


Choosing is personal - so when one decides to overlook some advantage 
gear A offers against gear P because P feels better to say aloud, it's 
called freedom. Failing to notice advantages or pretending they do not 
exist are diff matters. Not my problem, actually. Wish you all happy 
(bad if someone would rather so) moments with your dream (or nightmare) 
choices.


Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

[Mark Roberts]

Tom C wrote:

>How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this
>image? Almost center frame.

Four dust spots, actually.
 
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Re: GESO: Istanbul

[Steve Cottrell]

On 1/11/12, Luka Knezevic-Strika, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.lukaknezevicstrika.com/gallery.html (first thumbnail opens
>the slideshow)

Evocative and persuasive. Excellent.

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PESO - Mt. Adams from Paradise

[luiz felipe]

Tom's words:

How come no one told me there was a stinkin' piece of dust in this
image? Almost center frame.


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Tom C  wrote:

Taken over the Columbus Day weekend from the Paradise trail at Mt.
Rainier National Park.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16555015&size=lg

Tom C.


... so that means you and I were *not* photographing the same UFO???

I was so happy that I had way more UFOs than you... :-(

Serious now, great image - and I also did not spot the UFO at first. If 
I had a dollar each time I find new - as in not previously corrected - 
spots in my just posted pictures I'd be using a 645d.


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Re: After reading the K5xxx reviews ...

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:33 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

> The incremental increase in pixel count & the better auto-focus with
> lenses I don't have and am not going to buy don't impress me. Nor the
> other "improvements". The weather resistance would be nice to have but
> by itself does not add enough value to make me want it.

As somebody who is still stuck with a K10D, what appeals to me most
about the K-5 is none of those things you list; it's the low noise,
high-ISO capability, and dynamic range (three sides of the same coin).
That's what drops my jaw when I see people's K-5 shots. I'm surprised
that you're not even impressed enough to make note of it.

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Re: Digital Film - Wouldn't it be Great?

[Bob Sullivan]

Tom,
Yes, I miss the days of Kodachrome and 'what you shoot is what you get!'
I don't need more hours in front of the computer screen on account of
photography.
But I do think my images have improved, and God bless shake reduction.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM, Tom C  wrote:
> I realize the subject line is a misnomer.
>
> Do you remember in the late 90's early 2K's when things like this were
> considered a possibility, at least by some? I know this example is a
> deliberate joke...
>
> http://re35.net/
>
> I've been thinking about how much and little photography has changed
> in the past decade and how I've changed with respect to photography
> because of it.
>
> I'm pained by the necessity to somehow adjust every image that I think
> meets my standards. Luckily or unluckily that's 1% or less of the
> images I take. It used to be zilch. I either made the shot or I
> didn't. There was no cropping, exposure adjustment, curves,
> saturation, etc.
>
> I think I've become a better photographer in the last decade. Have I,
> or is it just that I now have the ability to manipulate in a digital
> darkroom? Before Photoshop and film scanners I never would have
> dreamed of doing what I can now do. That was the bailiwick of film
> labs and professionals. I guess if that made THEM better
> photographers, in a sense, it does me as well. On the one hand I love
> the ability, yet on the other I despise the imposition, the innocence
> lost (likely perceived) of analog film, the WYSIWIG aspect for film
> photographers without access to a darkroom.
>
> Then there's the fact that instant review allows the latitude to
> correct mistakes in the field, to learn faster without a lag. More
> shots become potential keepers.
>
> Of course time has passed, and as we grow and learn it's natural to
> become better at skills we're developing.
>
> Maybe it's a combination of all these things that's brought about change.
>
> I'm not sure I'd ever have the patience, time, or funds for a wet
> darkroom, even though I can sense the allure.
>
> One of these days I'll sort through the reams of transparencies boxed
> away and find out. Am I better or am I simply changed?
>
> Tom C.
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RE: Your favorite composition structure

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
> 
> Fibonacci Spiral
> 
> http://mathnexus.wwu.edu/mathpix/fibonaccihair.jpg
> 


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Re: Just Back from Miami--Little Havana

[Chris Mitchell]

On 29 October 2012 06:13, Christine Aguila  wrote:
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I just got back from Miami about 4 hours ago.  The trip was work related, but 
> I did sneak off to Little Havana on Friday night.  It was fun to do some 
> night shooting.  ISOs very high in many of these shots--1600 - 5000 ISO.  
> Lightroom handled the noise reduction well I thought.  Sorry I haven't been 
> around much--work is insane!
>
> http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana
>
> Cheers, Christine/Chicago
Lovely night time shots Christine.
For me the outstanding one's the cycling shot:
http://www.caguila.com/littlehavana/content/IMGP4593_large.html
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