Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[Alan C]

Love the Black Lab in the snow - an extreme contrast challenge. If it's a 
male, it knows the meaning of frozen nuts. My Lab only knows about roasted 
nuts!


Alan

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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:04 PM
To: "Pentax Discuss" ; "Petch Dianne" 
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Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos


http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html

Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
snow last week.:-)

Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes

D200, 18-70, SB800 flash

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Re: PESO 2013 - 024 - GDG

[Alan C]

I'll bet that bunch could tell a story or two. They even advertise their 
shoe preferences in the cropped photo!


Alan

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Subject: PESO 2013 - 024 - GDG


Another fine Saturday morning walk, another opportunity to photograph
at the Guadalupe River Park in San Jose. Some of my friends after the
walk ...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8506412441/lightbox

Oh yeah: This is a shot with the Bessa III medium format folder,
scanned with the Nikon Coolscan 9000. The down-rezzed web images
really lose a lot of a lovely detailing that the Bessa III and ACROS
100 capture. It makes a much bigger difference when I'm printing a
13x13 or larger print. Here's a 1:1 clip of a tiny section from the
picture above, for example...

 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/024-aftersaturdaymorningwalk-detail.jpg

The result in a large print is exquisite detailing, tonal rendering,
and edge gradations. The downside is the amount of spotting I need to
do to clean up the film when I'm not working with XP2 Super ... with
C41 process films, the scanner's dust and scratch removal pulls almost
all of them out.

enjoy
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Re: PESO: Grey Warbler

[Alan C]

Excellent catch, Dave. SBJ's in thick undergrowth are difficult subjects at 
the best of times. Most people wouldn't have the patience.


Alan

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Subject: PESO: Grey Warbler

We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear 
in our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song).  They're 
constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph.  Usually I just 
stand and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take 
my chances.  I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so 
far.


http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/

K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400.  It's cropped to 
about 50% of the original area.


The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it 
kept annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go 
further away.  To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't 
have a limiter.  Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy 
so the AF didn't have much in the way of contrast.


Cheers,
Dave


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Re: OT Purchase favour

[David Mann]

On Feb 26, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:

> This
> tactic is nothing but a scam and currently Adobe and several other
> software suppliers have made submissions to explain these anomalies in
> pricing enquiry by the Federal government:
> 
> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/tech-giants-to-face-it-gouging-probe-20130211-2e80e.html#ixzz2KZYlhQyW

I thought I heard the other day that Adobe were cutting their AU prices in 
direct response to the enquiry.

As you say it's a total scam and I hope they have their balls deep fried and 
served to them for lunch.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO: Grey Warbler

[Bob Sullivan]

Dave,
Nicely done!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, David Mann  wrote:
> We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in 
> our area but don't often see (they have a very nice song).  They're 
> constantly on the move so very difficult to photograph.  Usually I just stand 
> and watch them but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my 
> chances.  I think this is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far.
>
> http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/
>
> K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400.  It's cropped to 
> about 50% of the original area.
>
> The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept 
> annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further 
> away.  To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a 
> limiter.  Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF 
> didn't have much in the way of contrast.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
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PESO: Grey Warbler

[David Mann]

We were visited by a grey warbler yesterday, a bird we occasionally hear in our 
area but don't often see (they have a very nice song).  They're constantly on 
the move so very difficult to photograph.  Usually I just stand and watch them 
but this time I thought I'd get the camera and take my chances.  I think this 
is the best photo I've managed to get of one so far.

http://www.multi.net.nz/grey-warbler-2/

K10D, FA*400mm f/5.6, 1/500th handheld at f/5.6, ISO 400.  It's cropped to 
about 50% of the original area.

The AF on the K10D really doesn't seem to work well with long glass, it kept 
annoying me by always starting to focus closer when it needed to go further 
away.  To make it worse, this lens focuses to 2 metres and doesn't have a 
limiter.  Probably doesn't help that I was shooting under a canopy so the AF 
didn't have much in the way of contrast.

Cheers,
Dave


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Re: High ISO (was Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page)

[Mark C]

On 2/25/2013 9:04 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:


Out of curiosity, how much testing have you done with high ISO?  I don't
mean 100% blowups where you can see every blemish, but full-image shots
on a large monitor or large-ish prints (like the 13x20 I have).

I wouldn't have believed how little noise there is at 6400 without this
test.  I do believe DxOMark, so I'll probably still try to stick below
1600, but given a situation where I need a higher ISO to get a shot, I'd
rather get the shot -- the amount of detail and lack of noise is amazing.
When I first got the K-5 I ran it through its paces and pulled several 
12 x 18 inch prints and a few 17 x 20's on on my Epson 3800. Granted, I 
used the crappy (but cheap) enhanced matte paper so the output was not 
the highest.


I printed some bug macros with nice clean backgrounds. I had been 
working with a K-7and before that a K-10D  (which I felt were roughly 
equivalent wrt to noise). My conclusion was that in the ISO ranges I 
normally worked with the K-5 was one or two stops better wrt noise. At 
higher ISO's there was no comparison between the K-5 and the other 
bodies (especially at the ISO's that those bodies could not reach.)


I shoot bugs mostly at ISO 400 and sometimes at ISO 200 if things are 
going well. The main reason for the high iso (for me, ISO 400 is "high 
iso") is to limit motion blur due to the subject's movement. More often 
than not I can control the camera enough to eliminate any motion blur 
caused by me.


I never felt that the ISO 400 images I got with the K7 and K10D were as 
good as I wanted - they were much better than comparable film images but 
still seemed a little noisy to me. I find that the K5 at ISO 400 is as 
good or a little better than the those cameras at ISO 200 wrt noise, and 
much better wrt dynamic range and other characteristics. At ISO 200 the 
K5 has a noise profile that is really great, so I still try to shoot at 
that ISO when I can.


Like I said in my original post - the ISO quality of the K-5 is 
marvelous and will only get better as cameras improve. But that does not 
mean that it is a given and you can just ignore ISO and take i for 
granted. If it is a matter of getting the shot or not I will crank it 
up, but I will also ask myself if there was something I could have done 
to get the shot at a lower ISO. Sometimes that is not possible - like 
shooting bands under availble light, where you gotta use what light is 
available.


For most everything I do, I can figure out a way to shoot at lower ISO's 
and those techniques usually improve image quality not only wrt ISO.  
Needing to get the shot is important but I am far more happy on days 
when I come back with with one very satisfactory shot vs lots of 
mediocre shots, and I am wiling to accept the constraints that technique 
imposes to get that result. I am willing to give up "getting the shot" 
in many cases if it means I get the one or two good shots. And again 
(for the third time here) if you need high ISO you need it, so use it. 
But if it can be done with a lower ISO then go that way.


Seeing that it can be done better, see how to do it better, and then 
actually doing it better is what the game is all about, IMO.


Mark



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Re: Pentaxian ink

[steve harley]

on 2013-02-25 13:11 Walt wrote

Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm suddenly
forced to reconsider:

http://photos.ellen.warnerbros.com/galleries/bad_paid_for_tattoos


i'm into cats as much or more than cameras, so this would be my direction:






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Shooting with the Agfa Isolette

[Paul Stenquist]

Shot a roll of Portra 400 in my Agfa Isoletta folding camera this weekend. It 
was my dad's camera. He bought it in 1952 when he went to Sweden to is it his 
mother for the last time. It's the base model: no rangefinder and the very 
basic Agfa Agnar 85/4.5 lens. To make focusing a bit more difficult for an 
American, the lens is marked in meters. I found that the Agnar lens has minimal 
contrast and is not very sharp. But using ad's camera was a thrill. Here's a 
shot of the Cranbrook Episcopal Church, scanned on the Epson V500 and converted 
to BW in Photoshop:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16973073&size=lg

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Re: Pentaxian ink

[Zos Xavius]

My sarcasm detector was possibly out of tune this morning. Kind of
glad you weren't serious. :)

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Walt  wrote:
> I was being recklessly ironic. ;)
>
>
> On 2/25/2013 2:51 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> its kind of ugly to be honest. wish I could see how hot the girl is
>> sporting it though..
>>
>> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cwkqJhGw1qzabkfo1_1280.jpg
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Walt  wrote:
>>>
>>> Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm
>>> suddenly
>>> forced to reconsider:
>>>
>>> http://photos.ellen.warnerbros.com/galleries/bad_paid_for_tattoos
>>>
>>> [Shorty] -- http://is.gd/DdHxVq
>>>
>>> -- Walt
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PESO: Just before sunset, 2-22-13

[Walt]

This is the view outside the club where I work when I went in to start 
the weekend:


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/8508735632/
  K-5, FA 50/1.4, f/8, 1/1000 sec, ISO 1600

I forgot to knock down the ISO after taking a few shots inside, but I 
can't complain about the results too much.


-- Walt

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PAW164 - Snow

[DagT]

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA*16-50mm@16mm, f/11, 1/40s, ISO100.

DagT
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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[Joseph McAllister]

On Feb 25, 2013, at 06:08 , knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it was in 
> place by the 76 Olympics).
> 
> No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a big 
> red mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is required. 
> Along with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's compartment of 
> the last car) he also operates the passenger doors.
> 
> I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic operation 
> of their subways operators would still be required as a "set of eyes" for 
> emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system were installed.

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:11 , Bob W wrote:

> Anyway, the trains still have a 'train captain' whose job it is to, er, stand 
> there doing not much since there's an automatic announcer, the doors unlock 
> automatically when the train stops, there's no big red button (otherwise a 
> passenger would sit on it). I think their main function is to make sure you 
> don't take a bike on unless it is fully folded (and they won't accept that a 
> non-folding bike is of necessity fully folded at all times). Ocassionally 
> they wave a sensor in your general direction to make sure your electronic 
> ticket is up-to-date.
> 
> Anyway again, since their job is far less skilled than a driver's job, they 
> cost far less to hire and train, and the network is more or less immune from 
> strikes because the 'train captains' can be sacked very cheaply.

A few years ago Seattle built and implemented a "Light Rail" system at great 
expense. Decades ago they built a tunnel through downtown with 5 or 6 stops, 
but the money for rail traffic never materialized. It therefore became the "Bus 
Tunnel" with ventilation inadequate for the fumes from the diesel buses. So 
they bought a fleet of "hybrid" buses that could power through the tunnel on 
electric power, but not enough of them. They then upgraded the ventilation 
within the tunnel to cope with the many diesel buses still needed for the rider 
traffic. All this time they were using "Electric Buses" called "Trolleys" above 
on the regular streets.

Then they closed the tunnel for two years to tear out the original tracks for 
light rail and regrade them because they were the wrong gauge, and the wrong 
height from the cars to the platforms.

Finally finished the light rail system downtown several years ago with design 
promises to reach out to the suburbs north, south, and east of Seattle. That 
has been set aside as too expensive at this time.

Developers were willing to spend big bucks to buy the land the city had been 
using to house and maintain an antique rail trolley running from the historic 
Pioneer Square district over to and down the waterfront and back for tourists 
so they could see all the cool places they could spend money. Without the barn, 
there was no place to maintain the old trolleys, so they modified several old 
buses to 'look like' they were trolleys to handle the load of tourists, 
especially since they now were docking dozens of cruise ships a season with 
millions to spend.

Next they built a short line light rail from downtown to South Lake Union, 
promising developers foot traffic if they would invest in replacing much of the 
old commercial area with new shiny apartments and shops. There went our Pro 
camera shop and custom processing labs.

For decades the downtown businesses had been taxed as a subsidy to provide free 
bus fare in the core downtown area to encourage shoppers to park elsewhere, 
preventing overcrowding. When that only partially worked, giving the homeless a 
place to sleep and allowing them to travel all over the area for free, they 
last year did away with the service, charging everyone everywhere. Without the 
incentive to shop downtown with free mobility, business dropped off some. Then 
they tried to kill it altogether by placing new digital parking meters 
throughout downtown, raising the parking rates to cover the costs. These meters 
also notified the meter maids and men when a meter expired, so the chances of a 
big old fine rose considerably.

Then came the 2008 financial crisis.

And I moved well outside of the city to the rural setting I now enjoy. 

I have seen Seattle several times in the past 5 years as I drove past it. For 
$12.00 I can avoid that by taking the ferry to my sister's instead of driving 
the long way around.

The promise to link the light rail up to the northern areas of Puget Sound is 
pretty much dead, though maps can still be found. Doesn't look like Seattle and 
Tacoma will be linked at the airport as planned, though Seattle's portion of 
that system now reaches the airport.

And, all the operators of all the systems are still 100% union.

Joseph McAllister
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Re: Pentaxian ink

[Walt]

I was being recklessly ironic. ;)

On 2/25/2013 2:51 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

its kind of ugly to be honest. wish I could see how hot the girl is
sporting it though..

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cwkqJhGw1qzabkfo1_1280.jpg

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Walt  wrote:

Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm suddenly
forced to reconsider:

http://photos.ellen.warnerbros.com/galleries/bad_paid_for_tattoos

[Shorty] -- http://is.gd/DdHxVq

-- Walt

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Re: Pentaxian ink

[Zos Xavius]

http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&biw=754&bih=819&tbm=isch&tbnid=F1RfcG6F_LrbGM:&imgrefurl=http://news.bme.com/2007/02/23/analog-girl/&docid=J5X73NDZTP5BbM&imgurl=http://news.bme.com/wp-content/uploads/200702230938-pix1.jpg&w=502&h=616&ei=rc4rUbTwF-3O0QHtlIGoDg&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,i:109&iact=rc&dur=1254&sig=115314047131120856004&page=1&tbnh=197&tbnw=146&start=0&ndsp=14&tx=59&ty=76


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
> its kind of ugly to be honest. wish I could see how hot the girl is
> sporting it though..
>
> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cwkqJhGw1qzabkfo1_1280.jpg
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Walt  wrote:
>> Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm suddenly
>> forced to reconsider:
>>
>> http://photos.ellen.warnerbros.com/galleries/bad_paid_for_tattoos
>>
>> [Shorty] -- http://is.gd/DdHxVq
>>
>> -- Walt
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Re: Pentaxian ink

[Zos Xavius]

its kind of ugly to be honest. wish I could see how hot the girl is
sporting it though..

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5cwkqJhGw1qzabkfo1_1280.jpg

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:11 PM, Walt  wrote:
> Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm suddenly
> forced to reconsider:
>
> http://photos.ellen.warnerbros.com/galleries/bad_paid_for_tattoos
>
> [Shorty] -- http://is.gd/DdHxVq
>
> -- Walt
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Re: Film Day 3

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I like that there are three controls: Focus, aperture, shutter speed.
>
> Full automation is great but after a while it becomes tedious. Chimp,
> see what the camera is doing, decide if I need exposure comp, make
> sure the camera is focusing on the subject, decide if I have to choose
> a focus point, refocus, check the shutter speed and aperture in the
> viewfinder, adjust accordingly if necessary, etc., etc., etc.
>
> And that's what I mean by oppressive. One is constantly involved with
> the ~camera~ and less on the photograph.

Interesting.  I wonder what you're doing differently from me -- that's
not how I perceive my interactions with my camera.

For starters, I learned how to use a manual camera 35 years ago, and my
routine was something like, set the exposure, focus the split prism,
recompose, shoot.  I do almost exactly the same thing with a digital
camera (I always set AE/AF to center spot -- except now I don't need to
hunt for a convenient line to focus on).

That goes double with a P&S, with a DSLR I feel like I'm always paying
attention to my lenses.  Unless I'm really paying attention to getting
the exposure exactly right, I just compose and shoot.

One niggle: I actually find that auto-focus is less reliable with the
K-5/K-x, I suspect that's partly due to the smaller depth of field (IOW,
with a P&S the larger DOF covers a number of focusing sins).


On Sat, Feb 23, 2013, Mark C wrote:
>
> Nice collection of shots, Paul. This one is my favorite. There's
> something fun about going out with a film camera, taking 24 or 36
> exposures, and not knowing for sure what you have till they get
> developed...

That's exactly what I hated most about film; combined with the cost, I
dropped out until digital cameras got good enough.  There's something
tremendously freeing about just not worrying about the incremental cost
of each shot (or whether you're going to run out of film at a critical
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RE: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

[Bob W]

> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> knarftheria...@gmail.com
> 
> Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it
> was in place by the 76 Olympics).
> 
> No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a
> big red mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is
> required. Along with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's
> compartment of the last car) he also operates the passenger doors.
> 

The whole of the Docklands Light Railway here operates without drivers, and 
there really ought to be a word in the language for the feeling of 
disappointment you get when you think you're going to get to sit right at the 
front but just at the last moment some kids turn up and you really can't just 
shove them out of the way and take the seat yourself.

Anyway, the trains still have a 'train captain' whose job it is to, er, stand 
there doing not much since there's an automatic announcer, the doors unlock 
automatically when the train stops, there's no big red button (otherwise a 
passenger would sit on it). I think their main function is to make sure you 
don't take a bike on unless it is fully folded (and they won't accept that a 
non-folding bike is of necessity fully folded at all times). Ocassionally they 
wave a sensor in your general direction to make sure your electronic ticket is 
up-to-date.

Anyway again, since their job is far less skilled than a driver's job, they 
cost far less to hire and train, and the network is more or less immune from 
strikes because the 'train captains' can be sacked very cheaply.

B

> I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic
> operation of their subways operators would still be required as a "set
> of eyes" for emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system
> were installed.
> 
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Pentaxian ink

[Walt]

Having gone more than 40 years on the planet without a tattoo, I'm 
suddenly forced to reconsider:


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Re: PESO 2013 - 024 - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice shot. Looks like a fun bunch of guys. Great detail.


On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Another fine Saturday morning walk, another opportunity to photograph
> at the Guadalupe River Park in San Jose. Some of my friends after the
> walk ...
> 
>  http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdgphoto/8506412441/lightbox
> 
> Oh yeah: This is a shot with the Bessa III medium format folder,
> scanned with the Nikon Coolscan 9000. The down-rezzed web images
> really lose a lot of a lovely detailing that the Bessa III and ACROS
> 100 capture. It makes a much bigger difference when I'm printing a
> 13x13 or larger print. Here's a 1:1 clip of a tiny section from the
> picture above, for example...
> 
>  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25268645/024-aftersaturdaymorningwalk-detail.jpg
> 
> The result in a large print is exquisite detailing, tonal rendering,
> and edge gradations. The downside is the amount of spotting I need to
> do to clean up the film when I'm not working with XP2 Super ... with
> C41 process films, the scanner's dust and scratch removal pulls almost
> all of them out.
> 
> enjoy
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Re: OT PESO - Z

[John Sessoms]

From: Aahz Maruch


"Do people on this list really need smileys?"


It helps on the occasions where I sit down to read the list while 
waiting for coffee to brew.


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Re: Got caught by the Green Button

[John Sessoms]

From: Rob Studdert

On 25 February 2013 04:34, Walt  wrote:

I've never hit the green button on accident, either.


Becasue the AF is so flaky in low light on the k5 I often have the AF
disconnected from the shutter button so use the dedicated AF button.
The problem is that when using the grip the rear AF button is
positioned in line and close to the green button. Problem solved on
that front though by simply disabling the green button in manual.


That was something they did with the K-7; swapped the position of the 
green button and the exposure compensation button from where they'd been 
on the K10D & K20D.


It was one of the changes I didn't much care for. Wouldn't have kept me 
from buying a K7 or a K5 if I'd felt I needed to, but it wasn't a point 
in their favor.


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Two small Q Gesos

[Don Guthrie]

Here are two sets of photos taken over the weekend using the Pentax Q 
and a Pentax 28mm 2.8 lens via a cheap adapter. Some people and some 
objects. I tried a 50mm but it was too long to be usable except for bird 
photos.


Comments welcomed.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632828391581/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157632828370481/

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Re: Geso Annual snow golf random photos

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Looks like a fun time. A dynamic range challenge:-)!

Yes it is, my K-5 does a better job in the snow, but its a Nikon
tradition at snow golf:-)

Dave
>
> On Feb 24, 2013, at 5:29 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Don Guthrie" 
>> Subject: Re:Geso Annual snow golf random photos
>>
>>
>>> Playing golf in snow & ice is a travesty and against all the laws of 
>>> nature. Unless you are trying to see how far a drive can go on a frozen 
>>> lake.
>>> These people seem to be having fun so I guess it is all right for some.
>>
>> Plus beer was involved,
>>
 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:04:38 -0500
 From: David J Brooks
 Subject: Geso Annual snow golf random photos
 Message-ID:
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2013-snowgolf/album/index.html

 Held this past Saturday, a week later than normal cause we only got
 snow last week.:-)

 Unadjusted low res jpg's copied pt jalbum for display purposes

 D200, 18-70, SB800 flash

 Dave
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Re: PESO: S

[Bob Sullivan]

Dan,
You could pull back the highlights a bit in Lightroom.
Some parts of the flower are a bit blown out.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16969678
>
> Comments and criticisms invited.
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Re: Film Day 3

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nuance, nuisance ... Frankly, I think it's a little bit of both.

Just finished another roll of film with the Voigtländer Bessa III:
I've finally sussed out how to scan my 6x6 film in a semi-automated
way with the Nikon Coolscan 9000ED using VueScan. It's easy now
(famous last words). Output files are 16bit-RGB DNG encapsulated TIFF
with zip compression, 74 Mpixels each, 449 Mbytes each. Scanning a
roll of 12 exposures takes about 45 minutes, another 20 to inject the
appropriate EXIF metadata, import into Lightroom, and add IPTC
annotation for location and keywords. The new Mac mini (2.6Ghz i7
quad-core, 16G RAM, 1T internal drive, data on FW800 external drives)
sucks them in and renders them with astonishing speed.

Now I can start the picking, grading, culling, spotting for dust, and
finish rendering.

Nuance ... nuisance ... ;-)

G


On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 6:59 PM, mail1  wrote:
> It's the nuance!
>
> Jonathan
>
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer
> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 6:41 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: Film Day 3
>
> Steady Stenquist lives!  The subject's face is sharp, but there is motion
> blur in her hands.  Nicely done, nicely rendered.  There =is= something
> about film, besides the nuisance...
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> http://photo.net/photos/RickW
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Stenquist 
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:36 PM
> Subject: Film Day 3
>
> A coffee shop pic. Again, the Leica iiif RD and Summicron 2.0. This one at
> f4, and converted to BW from the Portra 400 original.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16959392&size=lg
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Re: Boris, 3 PESOs

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Boris Liberman  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>  From our recent walks in and outside of town...
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-08-blooming-almonds.html
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-09-shitty-fucking-attitude.html
> http://pentax-ways.blogspot.co.il/2013/02/2013-10-old-jaffa-alley.html
>
> B&H comments are sought after, as usual.

Love #09, second of this trio. Excellent street context. And color too. :-)

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Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

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Montreal has had computerized subway operation since before 1976 (it was in 
place by the 76 Olympics).

No train operators' jobs were lost. They still sit at their post with a big red 
mushroom button ready to be pushed in case an emergency stop is required. Along 
with one other train operator (who sits in the driver's compartment of the last 
car) he also operates the passenger doors.

I am sure that if Seattle or any other city implemented automatic operation of 
their subways operators would still be required as a "set of eyes" for 
emergencies, even if some sort of hazard sensing system were installed.

A few have mentioned how close to the platform edge some in this photo are. 
Some of Toronto's older stations have very narrow platforms. I guess they 
didn't have the foresight in the early fifties to see today's crowds. Even so, 
with one person standing against the wall there is barely room for a person to 
pass by without being on the yellow warning strip. I know I feel uncomfortable. 
When a train comes into this station and others with narrow platforms I prefer 
to stand with my back flat against the wall; not that I'm afraid of a "pusher" 
as much as an inadvertent bump by a passerby.

Very poor design no matter when they were made...

Thanks to all who commented and looked!

cheers,
frank



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From: Joseph McAllister 
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Subject: Re: PESO - I See The Train A'Coming

IMHO having computer controlled car sets would make this easy to implement.

Unfortunately, at least here in Seattle, I don't believe unionized drivers 
would give up the controls, knowing management would want to pay them less for 
working in a less dangerous environment.

So goes the world.


On Feb 24, 2013, at 20:05 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Not to difficult if all the cars run on the line, old and new, have
> the same length and
> doors in the same place on the car.  It's a matter of physical dimensions
> on the capital equipment you already own.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>>> From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of John Sessoms
>> [...]
 
 I saw on TV recently a shot of a subway station somewhere where they
 had fully enclosed the platform with doors that match up with where
 the train stops (imagine like a horizontal elevator).  May have been
 the series about great cities hosted by Gryff Rhys Jones.  Something
 tells me it was Tokyo but I'm not sure.
 
 It made me wonder why other cities haven't done this.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
>>> 
>>> The subways in Hong Kong and Beijing both had those kind of barriers. I
>>> can't remember if Nanjing had them or not, but I think they did.
>>> 
>>> It would probably be *very* expensive to retro-fit them to existing
>>> systems. You not only have to install the door mechanism, but find some
>>> way to make the trains stop in exactly the right spot every time so
>>> they line up with the doors.
>> 
>> I don't think it would be particularly difficult. The trains have to stop in
>> more or less the same place anyway, and regulars get to know where the doors
>> are.
>> 
>> When they built the Jubilee Line extension here a few years ago they put
>> platform doors on at the new stations, but the old stations still don't have
>> them, so there is a mixture on the one line. For a few weeks after the new
>> ones opened there was the occasional delay while they lined the trains up,
>> but that was just teething trouble, presumably until they got the tolerances
>> right and all the drivers fully trained.
>> 
>> It's far more convenient than having unpredictable delays and line closures
>> because some selfish sod has thrown themself in front of a train.
>> 
>> B



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High ISO (was Re: K-01 now on the official "discontinued model" page)

[Aahz Maruch]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013, Mark C wrote:
> On 2/21/2013 9:57 AM, Aahz Maruch wrote:
>>
>>Gotcha. That does make the K-01 a little more tempting. I like TAv
>>because I want to control shutter/aperture without thinking. I
>>spent yesterday afternoon with a professional photographer [*],
>>and he made a 13x20 print (on 17x22 paper) of a K-5 shot I took at
>>ISO 6400 because he wanted to see how much camera sensors have
>>changed over the last few years. You literally can't see any noise
>>(partly because the glossy paper itself is a bit stippled).
>>There's just no reason to pay much attention to ISO.
> 
> I agree that senors and processing has come a long way, but I would
> not agree that there is no reason to pay attention to ISO. While
> noise is remarkably restrained at higher ISO's it is still there. If
> I want it there that's great (I  do still use Rodinal and film,
> after all), if it is a necessary compromise I can live with that,
> but if I can get the shot without it I will. I shoot snow crystals
> at ISO 100 or 200 simply because the noise of higher ISO's would be
> a distraction. There is not enough visual "stuff" (signal) to
> counter the noise. I can see the difference between ISO 400 and 800
> for birds and bugs, but would not hesitate to go to ISO 800 to get a
> shutter speed fast enough to freeze the subject. But I would be very
> reluctant to shoot nature stuff above ISO 800, even with the K-5.

Out of curiosity, how much testing have you done with high ISO?  I don't
mean 100% blowups where you can see every blemish, but full-image shots
on a large monitor or large-ish prints (like the 13x20 I have).

I wouldn't have believed how little noise there is at 6400 without this
test.  I do believe DxOMark, so I'll probably still try to stick below
1600, but given a situation where I need a higher ISO to get a shot, I'd
rather get the shot -- the amount of detail and lack of noise is amazing.
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Re: PESO: S

[Aahz Maruch]

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16969678
> Comments and criticisms invited.

That's a nice shot, but because I'm slightly red/green colorblind, it's
harder for me to separate the flower/leaves.  You seem to not be into
photoshopping, but this is the kind of thing where I'd be tempted to
make everything B&W except the flower.
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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Aahz Maruch]

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013, Jostein ?ksne wrote:
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Aahz Maruch" 
>> 
>>The daisies look really sharp, though it's hard to be sure with a small
>>image.
> 
> Btw, I made a GIF animation of the DOF from full opening to f/22, if
> anyone's interested.
> http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligon2/animasjon.gif (file size around 5 MB)

Nice!  That really shows the effect!
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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Bruce Walker]

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:41 AM, Jostein Øksne  wrote:
>
> - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" 
>
>> I like those, especially the third.
>>
>> There's no chance of residual radiation on that thing is there?
>
>
> Thanks Bruce.
>
> I believe all the x-ray photons have left the glass a long time ago. :-)
>
> Are you thinking about something else?

I was having a duh moment which a quick trip to Wikipedia fixed. Never
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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 
I really like that first one... like a Turneresque painting and nice 
geometry too.


Not crazy about the other two... looks like you're having fun :-)


I'm having a lot of fun with this. :-)
I agree on your pick, there's something special about how the image is 
rendered through this lens that seems to come more to its right when used on 
full opening.


Jostein 



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel J. Matyola" 




Quite interesting!


Thanks Dan! :-)
Jostein

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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Aahz Maruch" 



The daisies look really sharp, though it's hard to be sure with a small
image.


It is a very sharp lens, but it's not particularly well corrected (ie. it's 
not APO). You can see for yourself if you like in this full jpg of a test 
shot I made this morning, file size around 7 MB: 
http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligon2/20130225-0006-Full.jpg
Same setup as the daisies, stopped down to f/11. It has been sharpened in 
Lightroom.


I didn't buy this lens for its sharpness, but it's a nice bonus. I wanted 
the large aperture and transparency to shorter wavelengths than the eye can 
see. The bokeh on full opening is amazing, and it renders high-contrast 
gradients in a very peculiar way. That was particularly visible when used 
with the 645D, so I'll be looking into options for making a mount for that 
system too.


Btw, I made a GIF animation of the DOF from full opening to f/22, if 
anyone's interested.

http://www.alunfoto.no/temp/heligon2/animasjon.gif (file size around 5 MB)

Jostein 



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Guthrie" 




Still not sure what the technic is. Kinda cool tho.


Thanks Don.
Put it down to my poor explanation.
It's a rather geekish project to begin with. Maybe I shouldn't pester the 
list with too many details, but I'm happy to try again if you point to where 
I lost you. :-)


Jostein 



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Re: GESO - Experiments with X-ray optics

[Jostein Øksne]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Walker" 




I like those, especially the third.

There's no chance of residual radiation on that thing is there?


Thanks Bruce.

I believe all the x-ray photons have left the glass a long time ago. :-)

Are you thinking about something else?

Jostein

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