Re: GESO: Fire on my street

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 5:51 AM, David Parsons parsons.da...@gmail.com wrote:

 The wind did blow right toward my house, so we got the smell, but it
 was far enough away that our house was never in danger.

Isn't that what they said in 1666?

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Re: Cloud Currents

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

For some reason I get no image in Safari but if I open up the element inspector 
I can see it there.  Maybe it's the brackets in the filename?

Interesting photo BTW.

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Re: PAW194 - Spot

2013-09-29 Thread DagT
You were first :-)

Thanks, Ann, Godfrey, Attila and Marnie!

DagT

23. sep. 2013 kl. 15:31 skrev Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com:

 Did anyone say nice bokeh yet?
 
 ann
 
 On 9/23/2013 01:21, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 just lovely, Dag!
 
 G
 
 On Sep 22, 2013, at 1:38 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote:
 
 http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
 Pentax K-5, DA*200mm 1/125s, f/3.5, ISO100
 
 
 
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the 
 message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images 
 without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows 
 (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes.  So I 
 enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I disabled Javascript 
 again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be able to see 
 some of the images with JS disabled?

Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.  Probably 
saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first 
couple of rows.

Cheers,
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely 
 closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from 
 Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine.

Sounds like she might have been carrying some gourmet cheese.  One of the best 
cheeses I've ever eaten smelled worse than a marathon runner's socks.

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Re: Question re K-5ii controls

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info:



Brian, your mention of LiveView sent me back on my hunt.

I am trying here for three outcomes. I want auto exposure  
bracketing, I want to use my remote to avoid camera movement, and I  
want mirror-up to minimize any mirror-slap issues. I may have found  
the right combination. Whether in LV or not:

- in the Mode menu, first select Remote/3-sec-delay.
- then select Exp Bracketing/use-remote
- Menu C page #2 Option #9, choose 2=one-shot brcketing.
I think this combination works. I can't be sure, but from the sounds  
I am hearing and those I don't hear, I think I've got it.



I'm not sure about that.  I tried it with a 3-frame bracket with the  
K-5 while looking through the viewfinder - the finder view blacked out  
as the mirror locked up but then appeared after the first exposure,  
blacked out again, re-appeared after the second exposure, blacked out  
again and reappeared after the third exposure.  This must mean that  
the mirror is moving between exposures.


The problem is that the 3 sec delay only occurs at the start of the  
sequence and not between exposures.


One method that does seem to work is to:

* In the mode menu set Self Timer - 2 sec delay
* Then select Exp Bracketing/self timer.

In this case you get a 2 sec delay between exposures, which might not  
be the ideal length of time for mirror lock up but it's better than  
none.  Of course, you can't use an IR remote with this method but a  
wired remote works.



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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:


On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page  
produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still  
able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for  
flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images),  
the remainder were displayed as blank boxes.  So I enabled  
Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I disabled Javascript  
again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be able  
to see some of the images with JS disabled?


Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.   
Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look  
beyond the first couple of rows.



Well no, it didn't.  I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom  
rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript.



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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Toine
I see you visited het miljoenenlijntje and de efteling;) I really
need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse
my gear collects dust.

You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this...

Toine

On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:

 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
 wrote:

 Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced
 the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris'
 images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top
 five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank
 boxes.  So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I disabled
 Javascript again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be
 able to see some of the images with JS disabled?


 Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.
 Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond
 the first couple of rows.



 Well no, it didn't.  I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows
 stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript.



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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Bob W

 On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced 
 the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' 
 images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top 
 five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank 
 boxes.  So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I disabled 
 Javascript again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be 
 able to see some of the images with JS disabled?
 
 Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.  Probably 
 saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first 
 couple of rows.

Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions.

B
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Bob W
 On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:31, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely 
 closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from 
 Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine.
 
 Sounds like she might have been carrying some gourmet cheese.  One of the 
 best cheeses I've ever eaten smelled worse than a marathon runner's socks.

Sounds like Munster (which is very nice). No, she was definitely not carrying 
gourmet cheese, unless it had grown spontaneously on one of the many unwashed 
parts of her body.

B
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Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a 
giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their 
fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This 
sequence is played out many times every day.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? 


On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Boris Liberman wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 After this link you find the photos from our vacation:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/
 
 So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's
 one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to
 display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript
 for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com
 as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image
 happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I
 enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different
 domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images.
 
 I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and
 I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does
 this confirm it.
 
 Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't
 show me your photos.
 
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Re: Cloud Currents

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
I'm not aware...just generally speaking. :-)
 
Appreciate the comment, David
 
Jack


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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Cloud Currents

On Sep 29, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

For some reason I get no image in Safari but if I open up the element inspector 
I can see it there.  Maybe it's the brackets in the filename?

Interesting photo BTW.

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Re: Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread Bob W
Very interesting shot! Would have been great to see the kill.

B

 On 29 Sep 2013, at 10:54, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a 
 giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their fill. 
 This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence 
 is played out many times every day.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/
 
 


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Interesting Photoshop CC Info

2013-09-29 Thread George Sinos
Interesting to me, anyway.  I was just listening to the most recent
episode of PhotoNetCast (#82) and heard something I haven't heard
before.

The speaker had contacted Adobe about Photoshop CC and asked what
happens after you stop paying the monthly fee.

I had previously heard that the software would just stop working.

He stated that the representative told him that the software will
still continue to run.  It would allow you to open and view files and
save them to other formats, but not allow you to make new edits to the
files.

If this is truly the case, It should ease the concerns of those that
are concerned about losing access to their images.

gs


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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W wrote:

 On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 
 Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced 
 the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' 
 images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top 
 five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank 
 boxes.  So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I 
 disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why 
 would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled?
 
 Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.  
 Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond 
 the first couple of rows.

Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions.

As usual Bob W. has the most succinct analysis.
 
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Re: Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Great documentary image!

Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the
middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180

My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the
best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the
lonely guy at the end of the food chain.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a
 giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their
 fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This
 sequence is played out many times every day.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

 Alan

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Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It 
was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness 
on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was 
only able to get a couple of shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/

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Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in town, 
although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend to follow 
the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside Kruger which have 
lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Daniel J. Matyola

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order

Great documentary image!

Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the
middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180

My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the
best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the
lonely guy at the end of the food chain.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a
giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their
fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This
sequence is played out many times every day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

Alan

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Re: Interesting Photoshop CC Info

2013-09-29 Thread John

Yeah. Now if they can only come up with something to placate the
customers who are just generally pissed off at being forced to rent
software, everything will be perfect.

On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, George Sinos wrote:

Interesting to me, anyway.  I was just listening to the most recent
episode of PhotoNetCast (#82) and heard something I haven't heard
before.

The speaker had contacted Adobe about Photoshop CC and asked what
happens after you stop paying the monthly fee.

I had previously heard that the software would just stop working.

He stated that the representative told him that the software will
still continue to run.  It would allow you to open and view files and
save them to other formats, but not allow you to make new edits to the
files.

If this is truly the case, It should ease the concerns of those that
are concerned about losing access to their images.

gs


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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Bob W
On 29 Sep 2013, at 14:50, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It 
 was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness 
 on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was 
 only able to get a couple of shots.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/
 
 Alan 

Fantastic. When I was there we thought we were going to see a kill when a lone 
buffalo strolled out of the trees towards a pride that we'd been watching for a 
while. They all went onto high alert, as did we, but in the end they just 
seemed to shrug as if to say 'ah, what the hell'. The buffalo saw them, made 
its excuses, and left.

B
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Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)

2013-09-29 Thread Bob W
I saw them in and around towns quite often in Ethiopia, around Harar where they 
perch on the rooves of the buildings around the market, scavenging bits of 
camel. I saw a whole bunch of them with their heads inside a cow just on the 
outskirts of town.

In the Cevennes in France I saw a lot on the Causse Mejean. I think it was me 
they were eyeing up - it's tough walking up there.

B

 On 29 Sep 2013, at 15:01, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in town, 
 although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend to follow 
 the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside Kruger which have 
 lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope.
 
 Alan
 
 -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order
 
 Great documentary image!
 
 Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the
 middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey:
 
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180
 
 My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the
 best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the
 lonely guy at the end of the food chain.
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
 
 On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a
 giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their
 fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This
 sequence is played out many times every day.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/
 
 Alan
 
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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
Lone buffaloes are usually bulls which are formidable targets even for a 
pride of lions. Their favourite prey are wildebeest, zebra, small giraffe  
warthog for snacks. Lions can not easily catch fleet footed antelope, 
leaving them for the leopards, cheetahs  wild dogs. BTW, that is the only 
kill I have ever witnessed although we often have found prides eating at a 
kill by following the vultures.


Alan

-Original Message- 
From: Bob W

Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:12 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: Lion Kill for Bob

On 29 Sep 2013, at 14:50, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:


March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It 
was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The 
lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so 
fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/

Alan


Fantastic. When I was there we thought we were going to see a kill when a 
lone buffalo strolled out of the trees towards a pride that we'd been 
watching for a while. They all went onto high alert, as did we, but in the 
end they just seemed to shrug as if to say 'ah, what the hell'. The buffalo 
saw them, made its excuses, and left.


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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread John

You missed yimg.com. I think that's the one that actually has the photos.

I have that problem with some other websites, except that NoScript shows
literally hundreds domains wanting to feed scripts. There's so many that
it's sometimes impossible to find the one domain with the content
amongst all the SPAMMERS.

Javascript is going to to kill the internet.

On 9/28/2013 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

After this link you find the photos from our vacation:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/


So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's
one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to
display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript
for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com
as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image
happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I
enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different
domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images.

I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and
I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does
this confirm it.

Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread John

On 9/29/2013 2:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:


On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
wrote:


Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page
produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able
to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com -
but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder
were displayed as blank boxes.  So I enabled Javascript and the
remaining images loaded.  I disabled Javascript again and the blank
boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be able to see some of the
images with JS disabled?


Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.
Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look
beyond the first couple of rows.



Well no, it didn't.  I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows
stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript.




I've noticed that sometimes it takes a while for them to load even with
javascript enabled, and I get those blank boxes then.

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Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)

2013-09-29 Thread John

There aren't many lions left in the eastern U.S. so around here they
have to follow pickup trucks  SUVs.

On 9/29/2013 10:01 AM, Alan C wrote:

Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in
town, although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend
to follow the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside
Kruger which have lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope.

Alan

-Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM
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Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order

Great documentary image!

Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the
middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180

My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the
best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the
lonely guy at the end of the food chain.

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a
giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their
fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available.
This
sequence is played out many times every day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

Alan

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Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer

2013-09-29 Thread Walt

Thanks, Kenneth!

I guess the hummers were just being particularly cooperative yesterday 
-- or were more distracted by one another than they were by me.


-- Walt

On 9/28/2013 10:25 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:

Better than any hummer shot I  have!


-Original Message-

From: Walt ldott...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer

One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I saw
at least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due
to the fact that my other two feeders have gone dry.

I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I think.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large
K-5, F50/1.7,  f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800

It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to
them than I usually can.

Comments are, as always, welcome.

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Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer

2013-09-29 Thread Walt

Many thanks, Dan!

-- Walt


On 9/28/2013 10:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Very nicely done!

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I saw at
least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due to the
fact that my other two feeders have gone dry.

I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I think.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large
K-5, F50/1.7,  f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800

It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to them
than I usually can.

Comments are, as always, welcome.

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer

2013-09-29 Thread Walt

Thank you, Frank!

Strange thing is, I thought the truck in the background kind of added a 
contrasting element to the image. I can easily see where others might 
see it differently, though.


Thanks for the input, in any event. I got several shots without anything 
like that in the background, but I haven't worked on them yet. I'll go 
through them to see if there's something that might be more along your 
lines and share them if I come up with anything good. :)


-- Walt


On 9/28/2013 10:26 PM, knarf wrote:

Very good shot but a real shame about that pickup in the background. Prevents 
it from being a superlative photo imho.

Cheers,
frank

Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I
saw
at least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due
to the fact that my other two feeders have gone dry.

I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I
think.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large
K-5, F50/1.7,  f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800

It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to
them than I usually can.

Comments are, as always, welcome.

-- Walt

“Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel






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Re: Ricoh what if

2013-09-29 Thread Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu 
 alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Let me rephrase that: would a newly designed telecentric lens have
 issues, with offset microlenses? (it's the other way around)
 Of course, new sensors could make this a non-issue.

 It shouldn't, but depends on the implementation of the offset microlenses. 
 Only testing an actual product can answer that question properly.

 I guess you want to debate the meaning of dead and buried.
 Not really, I'll replace dead and buried with being phased out if
 that makes you more comfortable. No one likes to be told he's using
 dead and buried things...

 It's a more realistic and objective statement.

 To me, dead and buried means the bodies that take a lens' mount are out of 
 production, and the lens cannot be used on any other in-production body, 
 with or without adapter, and provide the lens full functionality. ...
 Then, 4/3 lenses are dead and buried until they'll have a u4/3 body
 capable to focus them as fast as the E-5? :-p

 Regardless of the speed of the AF, all FT SLR lenses have autofocused with 
 all Olympus mFT cameras from day one of the Pen E-P1. The E-M1 provides a 
 better AF solution, that's all.

 You will never have auto-diaphragm operation with a Pentax DSLR using a 
 Pentax M42 lens... That's a non-functional lens feature.
Indeed, but you also won't have open-aperture metering with K and M
K-mount lenses, and with Nikon entry level bodies can't autofocus with
all AF lenses. It's not exactly a clear cut line.
Without a good enough AF, u4/3 cameras weren't really an alternative.

 It doesn't really matters if they still making lenses or they're NOS, that's 
 temporary; the mount is being phased out.

 That's true, but does it matter? Isn't it nice that Olympus and Panasonic 
 have provides a seamless upgrade path so owners can continue using their 
 existing lenses? And now with native DSLR focusing performance? It's time to 
 celebrate! ];-)
It's all good, as long as you WANT to migrate to micro4/3 ;-)

But we took quite a detour from where we started - which was that the
youngest, designed for digital SLR mount couldn't survive - yet
dinosaurs like K and F did.

 G
Alex

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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Walt
Just fascinating, Alan! Both this and the vulture/giraffe carcass shot 
you posted previously.


I see turkey vultures all the time around my area, but never see them do 
anything beyond circling high in the sky.


And the only big cats I've ever seen were in heavy steel cages. You live 
in a truly wondrous place for photography.


-- Walt


On 9/29/2013 8:50 AM, Alan C wrote:
March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead 
yet. It was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the 
left. The lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all 
happened so fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/

Alan




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Re: PESO chairman of the board

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks a lot, Attila. Many hours of shooting stage performers has
helped me learn to catch interviewees in repose. The problem was that
Marco was quite talkative Friday morning -- bubbling over with ideas
and enthusiasm for his business -- and I had to wait a lot to get him
when he was still.

You just have to see that table to realize just how massive it is.
They have a lot of fingerprint problems too. Everybody just wants to
run their hands over it when they encounter it. :-)

Thank you for your comments Bruce, Bob, Don and Dan. And thanks to
everyone who looked too.


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 You nailed the lighting again, very nice work! I like his relaxed expression.

 That table is really cool, so cool it's above my coolness grade:)

 --
 Attila


 On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Marco Pecota, partner/owner and creative force behind Metropolis
 Factory in Toronto. A one-light portrait.

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/9973709886/

 That boardroom table is a one-off Pecota design. It's made from a
 solid slab of maple roughly four by twelve feet, cut down the middle
 so it can be transported, with a custom designed jigsaw steel spine.
 A cool $20K will make it yours. :-)

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:5.6, 1/40th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
 AF540FGZ in fleaBay 30 octa umbrella softbox, right.
 Lr + Ps.

 Comments welcome!

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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Whoa. Good capture. You know, doing a little  cropping, and toning down the 
highlights a bit, you could have a really good  photo. Post processing is 
your friend. Heh.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In  a message dated 9/29/2013 6:51:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
c...@lantic.net  writes:
March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead  yet. It 
was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The  
lioness 
on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast,  I was 
only able to get a couple of  shots.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/

Alan   


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Re: Peso Afternoon Nap

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Good one, like the lines. They must have been  REALLY tired to sleep out on 
the street like that -- all the background noise,  etc.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/27/2013 9:23:32 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
shark50...@gmail.com writes:
While shooting around the  state capital I came across this street shot I 
could not resist. CC as  always.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9967928034/

or

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-4cGLt7F/0/X
2/Saturday%20Afternoon%20Nap%20%2026916-X2.jpg   


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Re: Ricoh what if

2013-09-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu 
alexandru.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Regardless of the speed of the AF, all FT SLR lenses have autofocused with 
 all Olympus mFT cameras from day one of the Pen E-P1. The E-M1 provides a 
 better AF solution, that's all.
 
 You will never have auto-diaphragm operation with a Pentax DSLR using a 
 Pentax M42 lens... That's a non-functional lens feature.

 Indeed, but you also won't have open-aperture metering with K and M
 K-mount lenses, and with Nikon entry level bodies can't autofocus with
 all AF lenses. It's not exactly a clear cut line.

The line between obsolete but very usable and dead and buried is very clear 
cut with FourThirds SLR lenses, unlike the ones you mention above. Because 
these lenses rely upon the mount to power the focusing mechanism as well as do 
aperture control, without a camera that supports the mount features for power 
and aperture control, the lenses are dead and buried. 

Micro-FourThirds camera bodies have been specifically designed to support the 
FourThirds lens protocol so NONE of the SLR lenses are dead and buried. They 
may be obsolete, but they are very usable. 

 Without a good enough AF, u4/3 cameras weren't really an alternative.

I disagree on at least two counts:

- All Olympus mFT cameras have provided AF with FourThirds SLR lenses that has 
been good enough for some purposes.

- Even if some lenses couldn't be used with AF at all (for instance, my 
Panasonic G1 and the Olympus 35 Macro), the lens was still perfectly usable for 
my needs. 

Both of these things say obsolete but very usable to me. mFT cameras have 
been a very useful alternative to my FT SLRs since 2008 when they were first 
released. 

 It doesn't really matters if they still making lenses or they're NOS, 
 that's temporary; the mount is being phased out.
 
 That's true, but does it matter? Isn't it nice that Olympus and Panasonic 
 have provides a seamless upgrade path so owners can continue using their 
 existing lenses? And now with native DSLR focusing performance? It's time to 
 celebrate! ];-)
 It's all good, as long as you WANT to migrate to micro4/3 ;-)

I don't want to migrate to anything, nor do I need to. I want a high quality 
FourThirds format camera that can use my existing lenses. I've been using the 
Olympus E-1 since some time in 2008 for that purpose, I also used the G1, L1, 
and E-5 from 2007 to 2011, and now I'll use the E-M1 for that purpose. The E-M1 
has a better sensor, better viewfinder, image stabilization, better AF, and a 
host of other improvements over the E-1 (and the others). I'm using the same 
lenses, and have a better body to work with now. Haven't migrated to anything, 
I'm still within the same system. Only thing that's changed is that I need an 
adapter, supplied by the camera manufacturer, to mount my lenses on the newer 
body. Big deal. They're even giving it to me for free via a rebate program.

 But we took quite a detour from where we started - which was that the
 youngest, designed for digital SLR mount couldn't survive - yet
 dinosaurs like K and F did.

I don't know where you started exactly...

But so far the FourThirds SLR mount is surviving quite nicely, through seamless 
adaptation to its Micro-FourThirds successor. Never mind the many users still 
quite happy with their FourThirds SLR cameras.  

The M-mount, which was the subject of Larry's original design thought, is an 
even older dinosaur than either K or F, and of course it is still thriving 
nicely with only one minor addition (a reader to inform the body about which 
lens is fitted) to enable some new capabilities on the digital bodies. In fact 
the M-mount's predecessor, Leica Threaded Mount, is also still surviving nicely 
as its successor was also designed for seamless adaptation of LTM lenses.

The K and F dinosaurs continue to survive albeit with some significant 
compromises in capability depending on the specific generations of lens and 
body combinations that you are using. 

G
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Re: Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Nice one, if a bit disgusting. Heh.

BTW,  could you please put PESO: in your subject line so I know they are 
photos to  look at and not some random discussion that has gone off topic to 
cars, beer,  coffee, cars, motorcycles, guitars, and puns? (GESO = Gallery 
Every So OFTEN,  PESO = Picture Every So Often, PAW = Photo A Week).

Thanks!

Marnie  aka Doe :-) I tend to avoid those discussions and mainly just like 
looking at  pictures.

In a message dated 9/29/2013 2:55:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight  Time, 
c...@lantic.net writes:
A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This  is all that remains of a 
giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals   vultures have all had their 
fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few  sinews still available. This 
sequence is played out many times every  day.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

Alan   


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Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Sneaky, sneaky. You're drugging them. Heh. Nice  shot. 

Marnie :-)  Are you sure it is safe for them? They are such  little things.

In a message dated 9/28/2013 12:48:24 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
l...@red4est.com writes:
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:28:05PM  +0300, Attila Boros wrote:
 Nice catch! What's in the feeder? Seems to be  liquid.

He fills the feeder with cough syrup. It's a bit more  expensive
than the normal colored water, but after the first couple of  sips,
it helps slow the birds down.  


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Re: PESO - Holy chilé

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Heh. I would say (re chili seriously). Nice  capture. Amusing.

Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/26/2013  5:25:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes:
G'day  all

Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New  Mexico:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.ht
ml

They  take their chile/chili/chilli seriously  


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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
I get no picture, just an error  message.

You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML.  Finger 
depress the send key, too much?

Later, Marnie :-)

In a  message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any  clouds 
but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows.
Bumped the  contrast and played with color curves.
Wish I had a  foreground.

Jack

Just  because.

http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents.
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712
 
Jack


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Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents

I get no picture, just an error  message.

You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML.  Finger 
depress the send key, too much?

Later, Marnie :-)

In a  message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any  clouds 
but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows.
Bumped the  contrast and played with color curves.
Wish I had a  foreground.

Jack

Just  because.

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Eactivist
Don't think it really works, Jack. Not with that  big block of lighter 
clouds on the upper right. They look almost blown  out.  If you could tone 
those 
down, it might be rather interesting in a  minimalistic way.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud  Currents.
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

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PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis
Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair.

You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the
Events Coordinator, on it. :-)

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/

K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair pointing up.
Lr + Ps.


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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread John

Nice portrait. Lousy product shot.

On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis
Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair.

You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the
Events Coordinator, on it. :-)

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/

K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
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PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Bulent Celasun
Do not expect action!
You're warned!

I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the
underexposed look.

The image embedded within the blog:
http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/

The image itself (hope, his works):
http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Bulent Celasun
Marnie said it already.
Also, cloning out the grey spot (sign of a probable sensor dust) at
lower left would be fine.

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
Easy for me to claim, I know, but I didn't put it up to work. I noticed some 
very faint cloud fan veins and wondered if I could get a shot of them. I set a 
couple clicks of minus comp, so I could see something on the monitor. I was 
encouraged, so worked it a bit in PSE.
The tree top and cloud were not even a consideration, I was enamored with the 
faint currents and delicate ripples I was able to pull out.
I failed to mention earlier that I first converted it to BW. 
I knew it was going to be a head shaking wonderment to most, but would possibly 
be meaningful to some. I, also realized you had to be there to have much of a 
chance of getting what I was up to.
 
Thanks much for commenting, Marnie. ;-)
 
Jack
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents

Don't think it really works, Jack. Not with that  big block of lighter 
clouds on the upper right. They look almost blown  out.  If you could tone 
those 
down, it might be rather interesting in a  minimalistic way.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-)

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Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud  Currents.
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

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Re: PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
The underexposed look is one that more shooters might benefit from 
considering, especially in photographing whites.
Like the look, Bulent.
 
Jack


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Subject: PESO. The Fall.

Do not expect action!
You're warned!

I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the
underexposed look.

The image embedded within the blog:
http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/

The image itself (hope, his works):
http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg

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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I had to make a choice. :-) Thanks, John.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:56 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Nice portrait. Lousy product shot.


 On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis
 Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair.

 You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the
 Events Coordinator, on it. :-)

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
 AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair
 pointing up.
 Lr + Ps.



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Re: PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Beautifully rendered still life. Underexposed (only slightly I think)
works really well to preserve the detail in the petals, and it was a
good choice.

The standalone image link worked too.


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bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do not expect action!
 You're warned!

 I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the
 underexposed look.

 The image embedded within the blog:
 http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/

 The image itself (hope, his works):
 http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
I certainly see your motivation in wanting to capture this.
Fascinating textures and patterns in that sky, Jack. I'd have tried a
square crop; the composition doesn't do it for me.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents.
 http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

 Jack


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 From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Cc:
 Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM
 Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents

 I get no picture, just an error  message.

 You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML.  Finger
 depress the send key, too much?

 Later, Marnie :-)

 In a  message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
 jdavi...@yahoo.com  writes:
 Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any  clouds
 but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows.
 Bumped the  contrast and played with color curves.
 Wish I had a  foreground.

 Jack

 Just  because.

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup --
complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the
web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still
mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong
is annoying, not just JS.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript?


 On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hi!

 After this link you find the photos from our vacation:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/

 So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's
 one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to
 display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript
 for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com
 as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image
 happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I
 enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different
 domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images.

 I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and
 I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does
 this confirm it.

 Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't
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Re: PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Attila Boros
Looks good on my calibrated monitor. Very nice detail in the petals.
Wouldn't say it's underexposed, both white and green is pleasant and
they work well together.

Wasn't expecting action but fallen leaves or autumn colors with the
cold season arriving sooner than expected. Alternative title might be
One has fallen.

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Re: PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Bulent
that is perfectly exposed and composed to my eye... very lovely!

ann

On 9/29/2013 13:57, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Do not expect action!
You're warned!

I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the
underexposed look.

The image embedded within the blog:
http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/

The image itself (hope, his works):
http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg

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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Attila Boros
Good choice, never mind the chair:)

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PAW195 - Tevzemei un brivibai

2013-09-29 Thread DagT
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA21mm 1/200s, f/14, ISO100

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:


Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup --
complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the
web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still
mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong
is annoying, not just JS.



I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride!

Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website -  
there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)  -  
but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled.



Cheers

Brian

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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist  
pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript?


On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts  
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:



Boris Liberman wrote:


Hi!

After this link you find the photos from our vacation:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/


So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's
one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to
display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript
for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com
as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image
happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I
enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different
domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images.

I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and
I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does
this confirm it.

Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't
show me your photos.

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Re: PESO - Holy chilé

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting eactiv...@aol.com:


Heh. I would say (re chili seriously). Nice  capture. Amusing.



Thanks, Marnie - and thanks everyone who looked.



Cheers

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Marnie aka Doe :-)

In a message dated 9/26/2013  5:25:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes:
G'day  all

Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New  Mexico:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.ht
ml

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Damn SpamCop

2013-09-29 Thread John

TEST

Looks like I'm going to have to try posting everything twice to see if
one or the other ISP can get through.

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Re: SoftClousCurrents

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com:


Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents.
http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712




I think you said it yourself about the lack of a good foreground.  I  
don't think the cropped off tree helps.


I quite like the idea you were trying to convey - the subtle clouds  
are nice.  But, overall, there's something lacking.




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nbsp;
Jack


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From: eactiv...@aol.com eactiv...@aol.com
To: pdml@pdml.net
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents

I get no picture, just an errornbsp; message.

You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML.nbsp; Finger
depress the send key, too much?

Later, Marnie :-)

In anbsp; message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
jdavi...@yahoo.comnbsp; writes:
Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see  
anynbsp; clouds

but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows.
Bumped thenbsp; contrast and played with color curves.
Wish I had anbsp; foreground.

Jack

Justnbsp; because.

http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712

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PESO: For Knarf

2013-09-29 Thread John

No particular reason. This sticker is on a telephone pole I pass
whenever I go out to walk for exercise. I think of Frank every time I
see it.

I was out testing the 77 Limited, so this time I took a photo when I
passed it.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/10008396406/

I think the 77 Limited is going to become my favorite portrait lens, but
it's kind of limited for nature  landscapes.

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup --
 complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the
 web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still
 mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong
 is annoying, not just JS.

I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride!

Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website -  
there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)  -  
but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled.

Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I
object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third
parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load
still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes
too great at that point.

If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript
from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load
JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript
from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from
who-knows-where.com I'm outta there.
 
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research 
extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.

Paul via phone

 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Brian Walters wrote:
 
 Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:
 
 Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup --
 complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the
 web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still
 mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong
 is annoying, not just JS.
 
 I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride!
 
 Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website -  
 there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)  -  
 but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled.
 
 Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I
 object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third
 parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load
 still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes
 too great at that point.
 
 If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript
 from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load
 JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript
 from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from
 who-knows-where.com I'm outta there.
 
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com:



Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I
object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third
parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load
still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes
too great at that point.

If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript
from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load
JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript
from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from
who-knows-where.com I'm outta there.



One of the other things that irritates me (and it may just be a local  
problem) is that loading of a web page will often fail because a  
script tries to load from a third party - or several third parties -  
which, for some reason aren't communicating with the main page.   
Various Google and Ad-server scripts are the main culprits and the  
only way out is to keep hitting the reload button until the system  
clears. Or just go somewhere else.



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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research 
extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.

I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to
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Re: Damn SpamCop

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
Me too, John
'nother test
 
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TEST

Looks like I'm going to have to try posting everything twice to see if
one or the other ISP can get through.

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup --
 complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the
 web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still
 mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong
 is annoying, not just JS.

I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride!

Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website -
there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)  -
but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled.

 Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I
 object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third
 parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load
 still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes
 too great at that point.

 If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript
 from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load
 JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript
 from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from
 who-knows-where.com I'm outta there.

Loading JS from 3rd-parties is an optimization and widely used these
days. Lots of people code to load their most common packages (like
jQuery and Protoype) from Google because:

1. it's pretty much guaranteed to be there
2. it'll likely be cached by proxy servers for quicker access
3. if everyone does this your browser will only download a single copy
instead of hundreds.


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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research 
 extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.
 
 I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to
 take risks.
 

I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day 
looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional 
site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or 
anything like that.

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research 
 extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.
 
 I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to
 take risks.

I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day 
looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the 
occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a 
virus or anything like that.

It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until
they have one.
 
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Test VI

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web 
 research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.
 
 I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to
 take risks.
 
 I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day 
 looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the 
 occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a 
 virus or anything like that.
 
 It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until
 they have one.
 
That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much 
about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up 
twice, and I e-mail my current working doc  to myself every couple of hours. 
But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't work 
right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but 
I'm curious. What's the risk?
I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on 
computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But 
I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on 
PCs?
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com 
 wrote:

 Paul Stenquist wrote:

 I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web 
 research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around.

 I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to
 take risks.

 I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day 
 looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the 
 occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a 
 virus or anything like that.

 It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until
 they have one.

 That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much 
 about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up 
 twice, and I e-mail my current working doc  to myself every couple of hours. 
 But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't 
 work right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be 
 argumentative, but I'm curious. What's the risk?
 I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on 
 computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But 
 I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on 
 PCs?

Oh yes, they certainly are. And thank goodness too: developing
security software and support systems to keep PC users safe has paid
my bills for the past 18 years. Personally though I use Macs even
though they do almost nothing to support security people. ;-)

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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Attila. I'm glad to hear that you agree with my difficult decision. ;-)

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Attila Boros attila.p...@gmail.com wrote:
 Good choice, never mind the chair:)

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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce
Way cool!   I bet that is such an experience. 

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 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It 
 was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness 
 on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was 
 only able to get a couple of shots.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/
 
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Re: Lion Kill for Bob

2013-09-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
Fascinating. Great pic.
On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote:

 Way cool!   I bet that is such an experience. 
 
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 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 
 March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It 
 was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness 
 on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was 
 only able to get a couple of shots.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/
 
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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Bruce
Was there a chair in that picture???

Excellent work with the flash units!

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 On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis
 Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair.
 
 You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the
 Events Coordinator, on it. :-)
 
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/
 
 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
 AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair pointing 
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PESO: Mantis

2013-09-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I ran into this critter while cleaning up the pool patio this afternoon:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17543383
Comments are invited.

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Re: OT: Rush

2013-09-29 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Just back from the film. 
Terrific, best GP/Formula 1 film since Grand Prix in '66. 

I was there the year Lord Alexander Hesketh brought the team to Watkins Glen 
(1974). Even met all the big shots (quite by accident) at his party in the big 
truck. The film brought back memories. :-)

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Re: PESO Industrial design

2013-09-29 Thread Jack Davis
Bruce I sent a response to this earlier but it failed Again, very nice 
lighting, figure pose and facial expression
I imagine you might have wished for a less distracting background, but nice 
anyway.
 
Jack

From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: PESO Industrial design


I had to make a choice. :-) Thanks, John.

On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:56 PM, John johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Nice portrait. Lousy product shot.


 On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis
 Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair.

 You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the
 Events Coordinator, on it. :-)

 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/

 K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld.
 AF540FGZ in 30 umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread Boris Liberman
That's a pity... Well, I am rather certain we will return. I will give 
you a shout then!


On 9/29/2013 10:12 AM, Toine wrote:

I see you visited het miljoenenlijntje and de efteling;) I really
need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse
my gear collects dust.

You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this...

Toine

On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com:


On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org
wrote:


Interesting.  I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced
the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris'
images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top
five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank
boxes.  So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded.  I disabled
Javascript again and the blank boxes returned.  Very odd.  Why would I be
able to see some of the images with JS disabled?



Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down.
Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond
the first couple of rows.




Well no, it didn't.  I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows
stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript.



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Re: Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

 A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a 
 giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their fill. 
 This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence 
 is played out many times every day.
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/

Brutal but fascinating.  It's nice to see that almost nothing goes to waste.  I 
wonder if you could make giraffe stock from the bones.

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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way

2013-09-29 Thread David Mann
On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

 Well no, it didn't.  I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows 
 stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript.

That's what I meant, it's the Javascript that loads those missing images as you 
scroll.  I've seen a few sites do this, it's a variation of the 
infinite-scrolling that you see on sites like Facebook or Google Images where 
they dynamically load more content when you get near the bottom of the page.

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Re: PAW195 - Tevzemei un brivibai

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
Very interesting, Dag. I didn't know Latvia had its own Statue of Liberty. 
You live  learn. I followed it up on the web  was soon inundated with 
pop-ups offering travel packages. I even discovered that my brother (who 
lives in NZ) was a customer!


Alan C (aka Wisselstroom)

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http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
Pentax K-5, DA21mm 1/200s, f/14, ISO100

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Re: Bottom of the pecking order

2013-09-29 Thread Alan C
The hunters make biltong from the meat. No doubt Homo Habilis used the 
femurs as knobkerries!


Alan C (aka Wisselstroom)

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Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:31 AM
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a 
giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals  vultures have all had their 
fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This 
sequence is played out many times every day.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/


Brutal but fascinating.  It's nice to see that almost nothing goes to waste. 
I wonder if you could make giraffe stock from the bones.


Cheers,
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Re: PESO. The Fall.

2013-09-29 Thread Bulent Celasun
Jack, Bruce, Attila and Ann,

Thank you all for your visits and comments.

Ironically, this was an unintended / unplanned shoot towards the end of
my weekly, almost meditational macrophotography escape...
The rest of my images (of other things) lacked spontaneity and charm.
Not surprising, I guess!

Bulent

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