GESO: Birthday Trip to Orana Park
We went to our local wildlife park during the weekend as my birthday present. My wife bought us tickets for the "lion encounter" which is where you join the keepers in the cage on the back of a truck at feeding time. They drive into the lion enclosure and pass small pieces of meat out through the cage while the lions jump on top and drool on you. At the end they drop larger chunks of meat through the chutes, one for each lion, then make a getaway while the cats are distracted. It's quite an experience and not one I'd want to repeat without the cage. They said the males weigh about 1/4-ton. A close-up roar is quite scary. But their fur does look so plush and cuddly... I only used my cellphone camera as the weather was a bit uncertain and I couldn't be bothered trying to use an SLR through cages. I should have used my wife's P&S as she was happy with her iPhone. http://gallery.multi.net.nz/gallery/44/#geso Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Mantis
With the background looks like some kind of sci-fi creature. Pretty cool! -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:27 PM, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote: > > I ran into this critter while cleaning up the pool patio this afternoon: > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17543383 > Comments are invited. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO. The Fall.
Jack, Bruce, Attila and Ann, Thank you all for your visits and comments. Ironically, this was an unintended / unplanned shoot towards the end of my weekly, almost meditational macrophotography escape... The rest of my images (of other things) lacked spontaneity and charm. Not surprising, I guess! Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order
The "hunters" make biltong from the meat. No doubt Homo Habilis used the femurs as knobkerries! Alan C (aka Wisselstroom) -Original Message- From: David Mann Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:31 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Alan C wrote: A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence is played out many times every day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Brutal but fascinating. It's nice to see that almost nothing goes to waste. I wonder if you could make giraffe stock from the bones. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PAW195 - Tevzemei un brivibai
Very interesting, Dag. I didn't know Latvia had its own Statue of Liberty. You live & learn. I followed it up on the web & was soon inundated with pop-ups offering travel packages. I even discovered that my brother (who lives in NZ) was a customer! Alan C (aka Wisselstroom) -Original Message- From: DagT Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:52 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: PAW195 - Tevzemei un brivibai http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA21mm 1/200s, f/14, ISO100 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows > stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. That's what I meant, it's the Javascript that loads those missing images as you scroll. I've seen a few sites do this, it's a variation of the infinite-scrolling that you see on sites like Facebook or Google Images where they dynamically load more content when you get near the bottom of the page. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order
On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Alan C wrote: > A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a > giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. > This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence > is played out many times every day. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Brutal but fascinating. It's nice to see that almost nothing goes to waste. I wonder if you could make giraffe stock from the bones. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
That's a pity... Well, I am rather certain we will return. I will give you a shout then! On 9/29/2013 10:12 AM, Toine wrote: I see you visited "het miljoenenlijntje" and "de efteling";) I really need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse my gear collects dust. You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this... Toine On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting David Mann : On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message "Scripts Currently Forbidden", I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
Bruce I sent a response to this earlier but it "failed" Again, very nice lighting, figure pose and facial expression I imagine you might have wished for a less distracting background, but nice anyway. Jack From: Bruce Walker To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: PESO Industrial design I had to make a choice. :-) Thanks, John. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:56 PM, John wrote: > Nice portrait. Lousy product shot. > > > On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis >> Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair. >> >> You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the >> Events Coordinator, on it. :-) >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/ >> >> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld. >> AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair >> pointing up. >> Lr + Ps. >> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Rush
Just back from the film. Terrific, best GP/Formula 1 film since "Grand Prix" in '66. I was there the year Lord Alexander Hesketh brought the team to Watkins Glen (1974). Even met all the big shots (quite by accident) at his party in the big truck. The film brought back memories. :-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Mantis
I ran into this critter while cleaning up the pool patio this afternoon: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17543383 Comments are invited. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
Was there a chair in that picture??? Excellent work with the flash units! -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis > Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair. > > You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the > Events Coordinator, on it. :-) > > http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/ > > K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld. > AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair pointing > up. > Lr + Ps. > > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
Fascinating. Great pic. On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Bruce wrote: > Way cool! I bet that is such an experience. > > -- > Bruce > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:50 AM, "Alan C" wrote: >> >> March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It >> was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness >> on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was >> only able to get a couple of shots. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
Way cool! I bet that is such an experience. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad > On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:50 AM, "Alan C" wrote: > > March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It > was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness > on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was > only able to get a couple of shots. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ > > Alan > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
Thanks, Attila. I'm glad to hear that you agree with my difficult decision. ;-) On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Attila Boros wrote: > Good choice, never mind the chair:) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts >>> wrote: >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: > I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web > research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. >>> >>> I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day >>> looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the >>> occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a >>> virus or anything like that. >> >> It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until >> they have one. >> > That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much > about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up > twice, and I e-mail my current working doc to myself every couple of hours. > But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't > work right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be > argumentative, but I'm curious. What's the risk? > I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on > computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But > I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on > PCs? Oh yes, they certainly are. And thank goodness too: developing security software and support systems to keep PC users safe has paid my bills for the past 18 years. Personally though I use Macs even though they do almost nothing to support security people. ;-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. >>> >>> I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to >>> take risks. >> >> I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day >> looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the >> occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a >> virus or anything like that. > > It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until > they have one. > That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up twice, and I e-mail my current working doc to myself every couple of hours. But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't work right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm curious. What's the risk? I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on PCs? > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Test VI
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Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Paul Stenquist wrote: >On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Paul Stenquist wrote: >> >>> I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research >>> extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. >> >> I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to >> take risks. > >I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day >looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the >occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a >virus or anything like that. It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until they have one. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research >> extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. > > I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to > take risks. > I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or anything like that. > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Brian Walters wrote: > >>Quoting Bruce Walker : >> >>> Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- >>> complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the >>> web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still >>> mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong >>> is annoying, not just JS. >> >>I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! >> >>Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - >>there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)> - >>but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. > > Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I > object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third > parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load > still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes > too great at that point. > > If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript > from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load > JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript > from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from > who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. Loading JS from 3rd-parties is an optimization and widely used these days. Lots of people code to load their most common packages (like jQuery and Protoype) from Google because: 1. it's pretty much guaranteed to be there 2. it'll likely be cached by proxy servers for quicker access 3. if everyone does this your browser will only download a single copy instead of hundreds. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Damn SpamCop
Me too, John 'nother test Jack - Original Message - From: John To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:32 PM Subject: Damn SpamCop TEST Looks like I'm going to have to try posting everything twice to see if one or the other ISP can get through. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Paul Stenquist wrote: >I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research >extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Quoting Mark Roberts : Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. One of the other things that irritates me (and it may just be a local problem) is that loading of a web page will often fail because a script tries to load from a third party - or several third parties - which, for some reason aren't communicating with the main page. Various Google and Ad-server scripts are the main culprits and the only way out is to keep hitting the reload button until the system clears. Or just go somewhere else. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. Paul via phone > On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > > Brian Walters wrote: > >> Quoting Bruce Walker : >> >>> Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- >>> complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the >>> web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still >>> mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong >>> is annoying, not just JS. >> >> I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! >> >> Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - >> there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)> - >> but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. > > Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I > object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third > parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load > still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes > too great at that point. > > If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript > from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load > JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript > from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from > who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Brian Walters wrote: >Quoting Bruce Walker : > >> Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- >> complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the >> web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still >> mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong >> is annoying, not just JS. > >I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! > >Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - >there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)> - >but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: For Knarf
No particular reason. This sticker is on a telephone pole I pass whenever I go out to walk for exercise. I think of Frank every time I see it. I was out testing the 77 Limited, so this time I took a photo when I passed it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/10008396406/ I think the 77 Limited is going to become my favorite portrait lens, but it's kind of limited for nature & landscapes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
Quoting Jack Davis : Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 I think you said it yourself about the lack of a good foreground. I don't think the cropped off tree helps. I quite like the idea you were trying to convey - the subtle clouds are nice. But, overall, there's something lacking. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Jack - Original Message - From: "eactiv...@aol.com" To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents I get no picture, just an error message. You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML. Finger depress the send key, too much? Later, Marnie :-) In a message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any clouds but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows. Bumped the contrast and played with color curves. Wish I had a foreground. Jack Just because. http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Damn SpamCop
TEST Looks like I'm going to have to try posting everything twice to see if one or the other ISP can get through. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Holy chilé
Quoting eactiv...@aol.com: Heh. I would say (re chili seriously). Nice capture. Amusing. Thanks, Marnie - and thanks everyone who looked. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/26/2013 5:25:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: G'day all Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New Mexico: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.ht ml They take their chile/chili/chilli seriously -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Quoting Bruce Walker : Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-)> - but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. "Aah" I thought, "it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript". So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PAW195 - Tevzemei un brivibai
http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html Pentax K-5, DA21mm 1/200s, f/14, ISO100 DagT http://www.thrane.name/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
Good choice, never mind the chair:) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO. The Fall.
Bulent that is perfectly exposed and composed to my eye... very lovely! ann On 9/29/2013 13:57, Bulent Celasun wrote: Do not expect action! You're warned! I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the underexposed look. The image embedded within the blog: http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/ The image itself (hope, his works): http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO. The Fall.
Looks good on my calibrated monitor. Very nice detail in the petals. Wouldn't say it's underexposed, both white and green is pleasant and they work well together. Wasn't expecting action but fallen leaves or autumn colors with the cold season arriving sooner than expected. Alternative title might be "One has fallen". -- Attila -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? > > > On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Boris Liberman wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> After this link you find the photos from our vacation: >>> >>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ >> >> So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. "Aah" I thought, "it's >> one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to >> display a simple image without JavaScript". So I enabled JavaScript >> for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com >> as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image >> happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I >> enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different >> domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. >> >> I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and >> I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does >> this confirm it. >> >> Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't >> show me your photos. >> >> -- >> Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia >> www.robertstech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
I certainly see your motivation in wanting to capture this. Fascinating textures and patterns in that sky, Jack. I'd have tried a square crop; the composition doesn't do it for me. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents. > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 > > Jack > > > - Original Message - > From: "eactiv...@aol.com" > To: pdml@pdml.net > Cc: > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM > Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents > > I get no picture, just an error message. > > You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML. Finger > depress the send key, too much? > > Later, Marnie :-) > > In a message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: > Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any clouds > but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows. > Bumped the contrast and played with color curves. > Wish I had a foreground. > > Jack > > Just because. > > http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO. The Fall.
Beautifully rendered still life. Underexposed (only slightly I think) works really well to preserve the detail in the petals, and it was a good choice. The standalone image link worked too. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: > Do not expect action! > You're warned! > > I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the > underexposed look. > > The image embedded within the blog: > http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/ > > The image itself (hope, his works): > http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg > > Bulent > > - > http://patoloji.gen.tr > http://celasun.wordpress.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ > http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
I had to make a choice. :-) Thanks, John. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 1:56 PM, John wrote: > Nice portrait. Lousy product shot. > > > On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis >> Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair. >> >> You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the >> Events Coordinator, on it. :-) >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/ >> >> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld. >> AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair >> pointing up. >> Lr + Ps. >> >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO. The Fall.
The "underexposed look" is one that more shooters might benefit from considering, especially in photographing whites. Like the look, Bulent. Jack - Original Message - From: Bulent Celasun To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:57 AM Subject: PESO. The Fall. Do not expect action! You're warned! I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the underexposed look. The image embedded within the blog: http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/ The image itself (hope, his works): http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr/ http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
Easy for me to claim, I know, but I didn't put it up to "work." I noticed some very faint cloud fan veins and wondered if I could get a shot of them. I set a couple clicks of minus comp, so I could see something on the monitor. I was encouraged, so worked it a bit in PSE. The tree top and cloud were not even a consideration, I was enamored with the faint currents and delicate ripples I was able to pull out. I failed to mention earlier that I first converted it to B&W. I knew it was going to be a head shaking wonderment to most, but would possibly be meaningful to some. I, also realized you had to be there to have much of a chance of "getting" what I was up to. Thanks much for commenting, Marnie. ;-) Jack . - Original Message - From: "eactiv...@aol.com" To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 10:36 AM Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents Don't think it really works, Jack. Not with that big block of lighter clouds on the upper right. They look almost blown out. If you could tone those down, it might be rather interesting in a minimalistic way. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/29/2013 10:11:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
Marnie said it already. Also, cloning out the grey spot (sign of a probable sensor dust) at lower left would be fine. Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO. The Fall.
Do not expect action! You're warned! I should be happy to hear your thoughts on the underexposed look. The image embedded within the blog: http://celasun.wordpress.com/2013/09/29/the-fall/ The image itself (hope, his works): http://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/imgp6084_g_sm_fr.jpg Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Industrial design
Nice portrait. Lousy product shot. On 9/29/2013 1:42 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair. You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the Events Coordinator, on it. :-) http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/ K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld. AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair pointing up. Lr + Ps. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Industrial design
Here's a shot of one of the cool industrial designs that Metropolis Factory creates: an outdoor garden chair. You can't see all of it properly because it's got Vanessa Furtado, the Events Coordinator, on it. :-) http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/10002797635/ K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:6.3, 1/15th sec, ISO 200, handheld. AF540FGZ in 30" umbrella softbox, right; bare AF540FGZ behind chair pointing up. Lr + Ps. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
Don't think it really works, Jack. Not with that big block of lighter clouds on the upper right. They look almost blown out. If you could tone those down, it might be rather interesting in a minimalistic way. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/29/2013 10:11:06 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 Jack -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
Sorry, Marnie! I finally got it to take under the heading; Cloud Currents. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 Jack - Original Message - From: "eactiv...@aol.com" To: pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:16 AM Subject: Re: SoftClousCurrents I get no picture, just an error message. You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML. Finger depress the send key, too much? Later, Marnie :-) In a message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any clouds but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows. Bumped the contrast and played with color curves. Wish I had a foreground. Jack Just because. http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: SoftClousCurrents
I get no picture, just an error message. You also seem to have posted this four or more times to PDML. Finger depress the send key, too much? Later, Marnie :-) In a message dated 9/28/2013 4:54:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jdavi...@yahoo.com writes: Shot this today while lounging on the patio. I could hardly see any clouds but the sun helped the slightest bit to define the shadows. Bumped the contrast and played with color curves. Wish I had a foreground. Jack Just because. http://photolightimages/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Holy chilé
Heh. I would say (re chili seriously). Nice capture. Amusing. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/26/2013 5:25:52 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, apathy...@lyons-ryan.org writes: G'day all Just an interesting sign seen at Chimayó, New Mexico: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1370864/PESO/slides/_IGP2220-K5-1peso.ht ml They take their chile/chili/chilli seriously -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer
Sneaky, sneaky. You're drugging them. Heh. Nice shot. Marnie :-) Are you sure it is safe for them? They are such little things. In a message dated 9/28/2013 12:48:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, l...@red4est.com writes: On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 10:28:05PM +0300, Attila Boros wrote: > Nice catch! What's in the feeder? Seems to be liquid. He fills the feeder with cough syrup. It's a bit more expensive than the normal colored water, but after the first couple of sips, it helps slow the birds down. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh "what if"
On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: >> Regardless of the speed of the AF, all FT SLR lenses have autofocused with >> all Olympus mFT cameras from day one of the Pen E-P1. The E-M1 provides a >> better AF solution, that's all. >> >> You will never have auto-diaphragm operation with a Pentax DSLR using a >> Pentax M42 lens... That's a non-functional lens feature. > Indeed, but you also won't have open-aperture metering with K and M > K-mount lenses, and with Nikon entry level bodies can't autofocus with > all AF lenses. It's not exactly a clear cut line. The line between "obsolete but very usable" and "dead and buried" is very clear cut with FourThirds SLR lenses, unlike the ones you mention above. Because these lenses rely upon the mount to power the focusing mechanism as well as do aperture control, without a camera that supports the mount features for power and aperture control, the lenses are dead and buried. Micro-FourThirds camera bodies have been specifically designed to support the FourThirds lens protocol so NONE of the SLR lenses are dead and buried. They may be obsolete, but they are very usable. > Without a good enough AF, u4/3 cameras weren't really an alternative. I disagree on at least two counts: - All Olympus mFT cameras have provided AF with FourThirds SLR lenses that has been good enough for some purposes. - Even if some lenses couldn't be used with AF at all (for instance, my Panasonic G1 and the Olympus 35 Macro), the lens was still perfectly usable for my needs. Both of these things say "obsolete but very usable" to me. mFT cameras have been a very useful alternative to my FT SLRs since 2008 when they were first released. >>> It doesn't really matters if they still making lenses or they're NOS, >>> that's temporary; the mount is being phased out. >> >> That's true, but does it matter? Isn't it nice that Olympus and Panasonic >> have provides a seamless upgrade path so owners can continue using their >> existing lenses? And now with native DSLR focusing performance? It's time to >> celebrate! ];-) > It's all good, as long as you WANT to migrate to micro4/3 ;-) I don't want to migrate to anything, nor do I need to. I want a high quality FourThirds format camera that can use my existing lenses. I've been using the Olympus E-1 since some time in 2008 for that purpose, I also used the G1, L1, and E-5 from 2007 to 2011, and now I'll use the E-M1 for that purpose. The E-M1 has a better sensor, better viewfinder, image stabilization, better AF, and a host of other improvements over the E-1 (and the others). I'm using the same lenses, and have a better body to work with now. Haven't migrated to anything, I'm still within the same system. Only thing that's changed is that I need an adapter, supplied by the camera manufacturer, to mount my lenses on the newer body. Big deal. They're even giving it to me for free via a rebate program. > But we took quite a detour from where we started - which was that the > youngest, designed for digital SLR mount couldn't survive - yet > "dinosaurs" like K and F did. I don't know where you started exactly... But so far the FourThirds SLR mount is surviving quite nicely, through seamless adaptation to its Micro-FourThirds successor. Never mind the many users still quite happy with their FourThirds SLR cameras. The M-mount, which was the subject of Larry's original design thought, is an even older dinosaur than either K or F, and of course it is still thriving nicely with only one minor addition (a reader to inform the body about which lens is fitted) to enable some new capabilities on the digital bodies. In fact the M-mount's predecessor, Leica Threaded Mount, is also still surviving nicely as its successor was also designed for seamless adaptation of LTM lenses. The K and F dinosaurs continue to survive albeit with some significant compromises in capability depending on the specific generations of lens and body combinations that you are using. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order
Nice one, if a bit disgusting. Heh. BTW, could you please put PESO: in your subject line so I know they are photos to look at and not some random discussion that has gone off topic to cars, beer, coffee, cars, motorcycles, guitars, and puns? (GESO = Gallery Every So OFTEN, PESO = Picture Every So Often, PAW = Photo A Week). Thanks! Marnie aka Doe :-) I tend to avoid those discussions and mainly just like looking at pictures. In a message dated 9/29/2013 2:55:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, c...@lantic.net writes: A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence is played out many times every day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Peso Afternoon Nap
Good one, like the lines. They must have been REALLY tired to sleep out on the street like that -- all the background noise, etc. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/27/2013 9:23:32 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, shark50...@gmail.com writes: While shooting around the state capital I came across this street shot I could not resist. C&C as always. http://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/9967928034/ or http://donspix.smugmug.com/Architecture/Buildings-Architecture/i-4cGLt7F/0/X 2/Saturday%20Afternoon%20Nap%20%2026916-X2.jpg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
Whoa. Good capture. You know, doing a little cropping, and toning down the highlights a bit, you could have a really good photo. Post processing is your friend. Heh. Marnie aka Doe :-) In a message dated 9/29/2013 6:51:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, c...@lantic.net writes: March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO chairman of the board
Thanks a lot, Attila. Many hours of shooting stage performers has helped me learn to catch interviewees in repose. The problem was that Marco was quite talkative Friday morning -- bubbling over with ideas and enthusiasm for his business -- and I had to wait a lot to get him when he was still. You just have to see that table to realize just how massive it is. They have a lot of fingerprint problems too. Everybody just wants to run their hands over it when they encounter it. :-) Thank you for your comments Bruce, Bob, Don and Dan. And thanks to everyone who looked too. On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Attila Boros wrote: > You nailed the lighting again, very nice work! I like his relaxed expression. > > That table is really cool, so cool it's above my coolness grade:) > > -- > Attila > > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> Marco Pecota, partner/owner and creative force behind Metropolis >> Factory in Toronto. A one-light portrait. >> >> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/9973709886/ >> >> That boardroom table is a one-off Pecota design. It's made from a >> solid slab of maple roughly four by twelve feet, cut down the middle >> so it can be transported, with a custom designed "jigsaw" steel spine. >> A cool $20K will make it yours. :-) >> >> K20D, DA* 16-50/2.8 @ 50mm/f:5.6, 1/40th sec, ISO 200, handheld. >> AF540FGZ in fleaBay 30" octa umbrella softbox, right. >> Lr + Ps. >> >> Comments welcome! >> >> -- >> -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
Just fascinating, Alan! Both this and the vulture/giraffe carcass shot you posted previously. I see turkey vultures all the time around my area, but never see them do anything beyond circling high in the sky. And the only big cats I've ever seen were in heavy steel cages. You live in a truly wondrous place for photography. -- Walt On 9/29/2013 8:50 AM, Alan C wrote: March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ricoh "what if"
On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu > wrote: > >> Let me rephrase that: would a newly designed telecentric lens have >> issues, with offset microlenses? (it's the other way around) >> Of course, new sensors could make this a non-issue. > > It shouldn't, but depends on the implementation of the offset microlenses. > Only testing an actual product can answer that question properly. > >>> I guess you want to debate the meaning of "dead and buried." >> Not really, I'll replace "dead and buried" with "being phased out" if >> that makes you more comfortable. No one likes to be told he's using >> "dead and buried" things... > > It's a more realistic and objective statement. > >>> To me, dead and buried means the bodies that take a lens' mount are out of >>> production, and the lens cannot be used on any other in-production body, >>> with or without adapter, and provide the lens full functionality. ... >> Then, 4/3 lenses are "dead and buried" until they'll have a u4/3 body >> capable to focus them as fast as the E-5? :-p > > Regardless of the speed of the AF, all FT SLR lenses have autofocused with > all Olympus mFT cameras from day one of the Pen E-P1. The E-M1 provides a > better AF solution, that's all. > > You will never have auto-diaphragm operation with a Pentax DSLR using a > Pentax M42 lens... That's a non-functional lens feature. Indeed, but you also won't have open-aperture metering with K and M K-mount lenses, and with Nikon entry level bodies can't autofocus with all AF lenses. It's not exactly a clear cut line. Without a good enough AF, u4/3 cameras weren't really an alternative. > >> It doesn't really matters if they still making lenses or they're NOS, that's >> temporary; the mount is being phased out. > > That's true, but does it matter? Isn't it nice that Olympus and Panasonic > have provides a seamless upgrade path so owners can continue using their > existing lenses? And now with native DSLR focusing performance? It's time to > celebrate! ];-) It's all good, as long as you WANT to migrate to micro4/3 ;-) But we took quite a detour from where we started - which was that the youngest, designed for digital SLR mount couldn't survive - yet "dinosaurs" like K and F did. > > G Alex -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer
Thank you, Frank! Strange thing is, I thought the truck in the background kind of added a contrasting element to the image. I can easily see where others might see it differently, though. Thanks for the input, in any event. I got several shots without anything like that in the background, but I haven't worked on them yet. I'll go through them to see if there's something that might be more along your lines and share them if I come up with anything good. :) -- Walt On 9/28/2013 10:26 PM, knarf wrote: Very good shot but a real shame about that pickup in the background. Prevents it from being a superlative photo imho. Cheers, frank Walt wrote: One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I saw at least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due to the fact that my other two feeders have gone dry. I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I think. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800 It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to them than I usually can. Comments are, as always, welcome. -- Walt “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer
Many thanks, Dan! -- Walt On 9/28/2013 10:06 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Very nicely done! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Walt wrote: One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I saw at least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due to the fact that my other two feeders have gone dry. I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I think. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800 It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to them than I usually can. Comments are, as always, welcome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer
Thanks, Kenneth! I guess the hummers were just being particularly cooperative yesterday -- or were more distracted by one another than they were by me. -- Walt On 9/28/2013 10:25 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Better than any hummer shot I have! -Original Message- From: Walt Subject: PESO: Four Wheel Drive Hummer One of my hummingbird feeders got a lot of attention this morning. I saw at least eight of them chasing one another around it at one point, due to the fact that my other two feeders have gone dry. I did get a lot of shots, but this one was the best of the bunch, I think. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/9984109623/#large K-5, F50/1.7, f/2.8, 1/3200 sec., ISO 800 It's a fairly tight crop, but I was able to get a good deal closer to them than I usually can. Comments are, as always, welcome. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)
There aren't many lions left in the eastern U.S. so around here they have to follow pickup trucks & SUVs. On 9/29/2013 10:01 AM, Alan C wrote: Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in town, although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend to follow the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside Kruger which have lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope. Alan -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order Great documentary image! Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180 My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the lonely guy at the end of the food chain. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C wrote: A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence is played out many times every day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
On 9/29/2013 2:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting David Mann : On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message "Scripts Currently Forbidden", I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. I've noticed that sometimes it takes a while for them to load even with javascript enabled, and I get those blank boxes then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
You missed yimg.com. I think that's the one that actually has the photos. I have that problem with some other websites, except that NoScript shows literally hundreds domains wanting to feed scripts. There's so many that it's sometimes impossible to find the one domain with the content amongst all the SPAMMERS. Javascript is going to to kill the internet. On 9/28/2013 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. "Aah" I thought, "it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript". So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
Lone buffaloes are usually bulls which are formidable targets even for a pride of lions. Their favourite prey are wildebeest, zebra, small giraffe & warthog for snacks. Lions can not easily catch fleet footed antelope, leaving them for the leopards, cheetahs & wild dogs. BTW, that is the only kill I have ever witnessed although we often have found prides eating at a kill by following the vultures. Alan -Original Message- From: Bob W Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 4:12 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lion Kill for Bob On 29 Sep 2013, at 14:50, "Alan C" wrote: March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ Alan Fantastic. When I was there we thought we were going to see a kill when a lone buffalo strolled out of the trees towards a pride that we'd been watching for a while. They all went onto high alert, as did we, but in the end they just seemed to shrug as if to say 'ah, what the hell'. The buffalo saw them, made its excuses, and left. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)
I saw them in and around towns quite often in Ethiopia, around Harar where they perch on the rooves of the buildings around the market, scavenging bits of camel. I saw a whole bunch of them with their heads inside a cow just on the outskirts of town. In the Cevennes in France I saw a lot on the Causse Mejean. I think it was me they were eyeing up - it's tough walking up there. B > On 29 Sep 2013, at 15:01, "Alan C" wrote: > > Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in town, > although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend to follow > the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside Kruger which have > lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope. > > Alan > > -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola > Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order > > Great documentary image! > > Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the > middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey: > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180 > > My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the > best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the > lonely guy at the end of the food chain. > > Dan Matyola > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola > > >> On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C wrote: >> A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a >> giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their >> fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This >> sequence is played out many times every day. >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Lion Kill for Bob
On 29 Sep 2013, at 14:50, "Alan C" wrote: > > March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It > was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness > on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was > only able to get a couple of shots. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ > > Alan Fantastic. When I was there we thought we were going to see a kill when a lone buffalo strolled out of the trees towards a pride that we'd been watching for a while. They all went onto high alert, as did we, but in the end they just seemed to shrug as if to say 'ah, what the hell'. The buffalo saw them, made its excuses, and left. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Interesting Photoshop CC Info
Yeah. Now if they can only come up with something to placate the customers who are just generally pissed off at being forced to rent software, everything will be perfect. On 9/29/2013 8:44 AM, George Sinos wrote: Interesting to me, anyway. I was just listening to the most recent episode of PhotoNetCast (#82) and heard something I haven't heard before. The speaker had contacted Adobe about Photoshop CC and asked what happens after you stop paying the monthly fee. I had previously heard that the software would just stop working. He stated that the representative told him that the software will still continue to run. It would allow you to open and view files and save them to other formats, but not allow you to make new edits to the files. If this is truly the case, It should ease the concerns of those that are concerned about losing access to their images. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order (New Jersey Vulture)
Very interesting shot, Dan. I've never seen a vulture on the ground in town, although I have seen them flying overhead. Here, the vultures tend to follow the prides of lions. There are lot of game farms outside Kruger which have lions too, so the vultures have plenty of scope. Alan -Original Message- From: Daniel J. Matyola Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:18 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bottom of the pecking order Great documentary image! Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180 My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the lonely guy at the end of the food chain. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C wrote: A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence is played out many times every day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lion Kill for Bob
March 2012 near Crocodile Bridge. The young wildebeest is not dead yet. It was soon dragged out of sight behind the thorn tree on the left. The lioness on the right is wearing a tracking collar. It all happened so fast, I was only able to get a couple of shots. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/8049415797/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order
Great documentary image! Some time ago, I captured a similar vulture on a road kill deer in the middle of a suburban development in crowded, civilized New Jersey: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11192180 My guy got on the carcass after a flock of 6 vultures had taken the best bits, but, as you can see, there was still plenty left for the lonely guy at the end of the food chain. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Alan C wrote: > A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a > giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their > fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This > sequence is played out many times every day. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ > > Alan > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Bob W wrote: >> On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann wrote: >> >>> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote: >>> >>> Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced >>> the message "Scripts Currently Forbidden", I was still able to view Boris' >>> images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top >>> five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank >>> boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I >>> disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why >>> would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? >> >> Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. >> Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond >> the first couple of rows. > >Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions. As usual Bob W. has the most succinct analysis. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Interesting Photoshop CC Info
Interesting to me, anyway. I was just listening to the most recent episode of PhotoNetCast (#82) and heard something I haven't heard before. The speaker had contacted Adobe about Photoshop CC and asked what happens after you stop paying the monthly fee. I had previously heard that the software would just stop working. He stated that the representative told him that the software will still continue to run. It would allow you to open and view files and save them to other formats, but not allow you to make new edits to the files. If this is truly the case, It should ease the concerns of those that are concerned about losing access to their images. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bottom of the pecking order
Very interesting shot! Would have been great to see the kill. B > On 29 Sep 2013, at 10:54, "Alan C" wrote: > > A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a > giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. > This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence > is played out many times every day. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cloud Currents
I'm not aware...just generally speaking. :-) Appreciate the comment, David Jack - Original Message - From: David Mann To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:24 PM Subject: Re: Cloud Currents On Sep 29, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=712 For some reason I get no image in Safari but if I open up the element inspector I can see it there. Maybe it's the brackets in the filename? Interesting photo BTW. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Boris Liberman wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> After this link you find the photos from our vacation: >> >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ > > So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. "Aah" I thought, "it's > one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to > display a simple image without JavaScript". So I enabled JavaScript > for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com > as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image > happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I > enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different > domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. > > I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and > I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does > this confirm it. > > Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't > show me your photos. > > -- > Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia > www.robertstech.com > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Bottom of the pecking order
A heavily cropped shot I took in August. This is all that remains of a giraffe kill. The lions, hyaenas, jakkals & vultures have all had their fill. This lone grey vulture is after the few sinews still available. This sequence is played out many times every day. http://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/9995989443/lightbox/ Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
> On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:31, David Mann wrote: > >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob W wrote: >> >> I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely >> closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from >> Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine. > > Sounds like she might have been carrying some gourmet cheese. One of the > best cheeses I've ever eaten smelled worse than a marathon runner's socks. Sounds like Munster (which is very nice). No, she was definitely not carrying gourmet cheese, unless it had grown spontaneously on one of the many unwashed parts of her body. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
> On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann wrote: > >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote: >> >> Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced >> the message "Scripts Currently Forbidden", I was still able to view Boris' >> images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top >> five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank >> boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled >> Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be >> able to see some of the images with JS disabled? > > Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably > saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first > couple of rows. Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
I see you visited "het miljoenenlijntje" and "de efteling";) I really need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse my gear collects dust. You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this... Toine On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting David Mann : > >> On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters >> wrote: >> >>> Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced >>> the message "Scripts Currently Forbidden", I was still able to view Boris' >>> images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top >>> five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank >>> boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled >>> Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be >>> able to see some of the images with JS disabled? >> >> >> Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. >> Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond >> the first couple of rows. > > > > Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows > stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. > > > > -- > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.