RE: Discouraged.

2014-05-15 Thread John Coyle
That's so frustrating!  I edit a small journal, and my problem tends to be the 
other way around:
contributors send me copies of images scanned at about 10dpi and expect them to 
reproduce well at A4
size!

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia



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Subject: Discouraged.

It really is discouraging, I shot a couple of publicity photos, gratis, for a 
volunteer
organization. I processed them each to a good looking jpeg, and sent them off 
to the secretary of
said organization, for their use.  I received back a copy of their electronic 
newsletter and the
photos had been re-compressed and re-sized until all the quality had been wrung 
out of it, like so
much dirty dishwater.  I used to work for small newspapers, so I shouldn't be 
so depressed over
this, but, somehow I still am.

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 - NOW AVAILABLE

2014-05-15 Thread Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Ordered a hard cover one yesterday too ...

Growing into a nice collection :)

On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:11:29 -0400 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I ordered my hard cover copy as soon as I received the first message
that it was on sale.
It looks great online;  I can't wait to see the finished product.

Regards, JvW


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Re: Geso: A Spring Walk in the Forest

2014-05-15 Thread Chris Mitchell
Nice stuff Don. Love the tree roots.
Chris

On 13 May 2014 21:58, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 9 photos from a walk between raindrops last weekend. CC encouraged. Your
 choice of sites.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157644245991768/

 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/A-Closer-Look/Loomisforestwalk

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Full or not

2014-05-15 Thread Igor Roshchin

I thought this might add some perspective to the full frame saga:
http://mediacdn.snorgcontent.com/media/catalog/product/a/l/alwaysfull_thumb.png

Igor


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Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed May 14 22:14:06 EDT 2014
Mark Roberts wrote:

 Alan C wrote:
 
 Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
 However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.
 
 You need to switch to software that doesn't do that.
  

- Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
- Don't do that!



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Re: PESO - Sinokray

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bong,
Very interesting story and attractive photo.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@ymail.com wrote:
 Forget about moire, had a chance to use the K-3 on a project...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/14131270865/

 This is just the safe version :)

 To add to the back story on the flickr page start here 
 http://my_sarisari_store.typepad.com/my_sarisari_store/kalinga-tribal-tattoos/


 Bong

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OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lXKDu6cdXLI?rel=0

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

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Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
I suspect it isn't his.

Jostein has found this:
http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).

 
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered,
I'd give him an F.  Obvious copy of elements if not in total.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
 I suspect it isn't his.

 Jostein has found this:
 http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
 down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
 designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
 I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
 anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).


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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob Sullivan wrote:

Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered,
I'd give him an F.  Obvious copy of elements if not in total.

The student got an F in the course long before I even suspected
plagiarism. (Skipped more than 25% of classes, skipped 50% of tests
during the semester, turned in most work late and delivered a final
project, which was in Adobe Illustrator, consisting of this JPEG image
embedded in an Illustrator file! — his grade for the course was
37%...)





On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
 I suspect it isn't his.

 Jostein has found this:
 http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
 down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
 designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
 I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
 anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).
 
-- 
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www.robertstech.com





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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Stanley Halpin
I agree with Bob. The student’s work is clearly derivative if not a copy.
I did a Yahoo search for Burton boards since the designer’s site Jostein 
pointed to seems to indicate that his design was for that company. I did an 
unaided eye-ball scan of Yahoo images for Burton snowboards going back to 2010, 
saw nothing like this design or the one on the designer’s site. So if it is 
copied, it could be from an earlier board. My suspicion from the way Burton 
designs vary, I would guess that this was a women’s rather than a men’s board.

In addition to the designer, maybe try contacting Burton?


stan

On 15 May 2014, at 09:54, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered,
 I'd give him an F.  Obvious copy of elements if not in total.
 
 The student got an F in the course long before I even suspected
 plagiarism. (Skipped more than 25% of classes, skipped 50% of tests
 during the semester, turned in most work late and delivered a final
 project, which was in Adobe Illustrator, consisting of this JPEG image
 embedded in an Illustrator file! — his grade for the course was
 37%...)
 
 
 
 
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
 I suspect it isn't his.
 
 Jostein has found this:
 http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
 down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
 designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
 I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
 anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).
 
 -- 
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Stanley Halpin wrote:

I agree with Bob. The student’s work is clearly derivative if not a copy.
I did a Yahoo search for Burton boards since the designer’s site Jostein 
pointed to seems to indicate that his design was for that company. I did an 
unaided eye-ball scan of Yahoo images for Burton snowboards going back to 
2010, saw nothing like this design or the one on the designer’s site. So if it 
is copied, it could be from an earlier board. My suspicion from the way Burton 
designs vary, I would guess that this was a women’s rather than a men’s board.

In addition to the designer, maybe try contacting Burton?

Nah, the design wasn't done for Burton. The original design was done
by a student, Sijle Bekkevold, as a class exercise. She chose Burton
Snowboards just for the purposes of the assignment. (Run this page
through Google Translate:
http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/04/16/logo-burton-snowboard-design/)

After examining my student's version, I'm thinking he modified the
original design in Photoshop.
 
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Darren Addy
Find me much of anything that ISN'T derivative. I'm reminded of the
old chestnut, If you steal from one author it's plagiarism; if you
steal from many it's research. Same applies to design (or most
anything else you can think of).
It sounds like this student's biggest problem is laziness. I suggest
someone turn him on to a career in I.T.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Stanley Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 I agree with Bob. The student’s work is clearly derivative if not a copy.
 I did a Yahoo search for Burton boards since the designer’s site Jostein 
 pointed to seems to indicate that his design was for that company. I did an 
 unaided eye-ball scan of Yahoo images for Burton snowboards going back to 
 2010, saw nothing like this design or the one on the designer’s site. So if 
 it is copied, it could be from an earlier board. My suspicion from the way 
 Burton designs vary, I would guess that this was a women’s rather than a 
 men’s board.

 In addition to the designer, maybe try contacting Burton?


 stan

 On 15 May 2014, at 09:54, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

 Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered,
 I'd give him an F.  Obvious copy of elements if not in total.

 The student got an F in the course long before I even suspected
 plagiarism. (Skipped more than 25% of classes, skipped 50% of tests
 during the semester, turned in most work late and delivered a final
 project, which was in Adobe Illustrator, consisting of this JPEG image
 embedded in an Illustrator file! — his grade for the course was
 37%...)





 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mark Roberts
 postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
 I suspect it isn't his.

 Jostein has found this:
 http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
 down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
 designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
 I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
 anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).

 --
 Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
 www.robertstech.com





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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Charles Robinson
On May 15, 2014, at 09:50 , Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 It sounds like this student's biggest problem is laziness. I suggest
 someone turn him on to a career in I.T.
 

Oh, boo!

As someone in that field who just had to deal with a lazy cow-orker for the 
past two years before he finally left the company (why he was not fired, I have 
no idea) I just have to say N!!!

 -Charles

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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote:

It sounds like this student's biggest problem is laziness. I suggest
someone turn him on to a career in I.T.

No, his biggest problem is claiming someone else's work as his own.
 
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OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:

These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
web.

I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a 
walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking 
of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 
foot 11 inches!

Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is 
a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you 
and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was 
fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.

http://www.caguila.com/park/

Cheers, Christine
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test

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Tim Bray
The red/black/yellow one made me smle.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.

 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!

 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.

 http://www.caguila.com/park/

 Cheers, Christine
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread P.J. Alling
That depends on what you mean by lazy. One way the individual just does 
no work, another the individual steals code that works modifies it just 
enough to get the job done, a third, the individual writes relitively 
little code but what they write is what's necessary and sufficient to 
get the job done, (I've worked for companies where that was penalized, 
which is simply stupid, but the metric they judged by was lines of code 
produced per day), and the fourth the writes tones of code without 
thought, and may or may not get the job done, but they have a lot to 
show for their effort, no matter how little that really was. The first 
should be fired.  The last probably will end up as a technical writer, 
from which position they should be fired.


On 5/15/2014 11:07 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

On May 15, 2014, at 09:50 , Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

It sounds like this student's biggest problem is laziness. I suggest
someone turn him on to a career in I.T.


Oh, boo!

As someone in that field who just had to deal with a lazy cow-orker for the 
past two years before he finally left the company (why he was not fired, I have 
no idea) I just have to say N!!!

  -Charles

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Re: test

2014-05-15 Thread P.J. Alling

On 5/15/2014 11:24 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:

test


Pass.

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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread P.J. Alling
It's derivative, at best, but since the student has already failed, why 
keep beating that dead horse. I've run into worse offenders in the arts 
community around here.


On 5/15/2014 9:45 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Looking at the snowboard on the site Jostein uncovered,
I'd give him an F.  Obvious copy of elements if not in total.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
I suspect it isn't his.

Jostein has found this:
http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
anywhere (Tin Eye and Google image search have been of no help yet).


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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Very regressive texture. I assume that's a compliment, Christine.(?)

Jack ;-)


- Original Message -
From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:20:19 AM
Subject: OT: iPad Play

Hi Everyone:

These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
web.

I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a 
walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking 
of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 
foot 11 inches!

Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is 
a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you 
and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was 
fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.

http://www.caguila.com/park/

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Re: test

2014-05-15 Thread Jack Davis
Copy that!

Jack

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From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:24:38 AM
Subject: test

test

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Chris Mitchell
Daylight glare? Holding at arm's length? That's been resolved before.
You need one of these (including the tripod)
http://www.viewcamerastore.com/4x5-btzs-focus-hood-dark-cloth/

Chris
PS Nice pictures by the way and congrats on becoming free

On 15 May 2014 16:20, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.

 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!

 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.

 http://www.caguila.com/park/

 Cheers, Christine
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Re: test

2014-05-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele

you passed!
ann

On 5/15/2014 11:24, Christine Aguila wrote:

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Chris!  I actually thought of that first thing when I started shooting 
with the iPad.  I just may set up a rig like that and try it out.  I need an 
iPad head for my tripod!  :-)  There probably is such a thing, I suppose.  Will 
have to do a search.  Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Daylight glare? Holding at arm's length? That's been resolved before.
 You need one of these (including the tripod)
 http://www.viewcamerastore.com/4x5-btzs-focus-hood-dark-cloth/
 
 Chris
 PS Nice pictures by the way and congrats on becoming free
 
 On 15 May 2014 16:20, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Tim!  Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com wrote:

 The red/black/yellow one made me smle.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Jack!  yes, regressive texture to be sure.  I’m going to do some small 
prints of these today just to see what happens.  For kicks, maybe I can use the 
iPad Air as my large format camera :-).  Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net wrote:

 Very regressive texture. I assume that's a compliment, Christine.(?)
 
 Jack ;-)
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
 To: PDML pdml@pdml.net
 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:20:19 AM
 Subject: OT: iPad Play
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Check this out!  There are tons to choose from!

https://www.google.com/search?q=tripod+head+for+iPad+airclient=safarirls=entbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=pe10U8r7HpKTqgaduIKoBwved=0CG4QsAQbiw=1792bih=916

Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 Thanks, Chris!  I actually thought of that first thing when I started 
 shooting with the iPad.  I just may set up a rig like that and try it out.  I 
 need an iPad head for my tripod!  :-)  There probably is such a thing, I 
 suppose.  Will have to do a search.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:
 
 Daylight glare? Holding at arm's length? That's been resolved before.
 You need one of these (including the tripod)
 http://www.viewcamerastore.com/4x5-btzs-focus-hood-dark-cloth/
 
 Chris
 PS Nice pictures by the way and congrats on becoming free
 
 On 15 May 2014 16:20, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage 
 HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for 
 upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady 
 out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/iPad-The-Tripod-Mount-Adapter/dp/B005I5DJU0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1400171898sr=8-3keywords=tripod+mount+ipad

Godfrey


 On May 15, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Chris!  I actually thought of that first thing when I started 
 shooting with the iPad.  I just may set up a rig like that and try it out.  I 
 need an iPad head for my tripod!  :-)  There probably is such a thing, I 
 suppose.  Will have to do a search.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net 
 wrote:
 
 Daylight glare? Holding at arm's length? That's been resolved before.
 You need one of these (including the tripod)
 http://www.viewcamerastore.com/4x5-btzs-focus-hood-dark-cloth/
 
 Chris
 PS Nice pictures by the way and congrats on becoming free
 
 On 15 May 2014 16:20, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage 
 HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for 
 upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady 
 out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, that’s just what I found :-).  Thanks, Godfrey!  Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote:

 Something like this:
 http://www.amazon.com/iPad-The-Tripod-Mount-Adapter/dp/B005I5DJU0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8qid=1400171898sr=8-3keywords=tripod+mount+ipad
 
 Godfrey
 
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Thanks, Chris!  I actually thought of that first thing when I started 
 shooting with the iPad.  I just may set up a rig like that and try it out.  
 I need an iPad head for my tripod!  :-)  There probably is such a thing, I 
 suppose.  Will have to do a search.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net 
 wrote:
 
 Daylight glare? Holding at arm's length? That's been resolved before.
 You need one of these (including the tripod)
 http://www.viewcamerastore.com/4x5-btzs-focus-hood-dark-cloth/
 
 Chris
 PS Nice pictures by the way and congrats on becoming free
 
 On 15 May 2014 16:20, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage 
 HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for 
 upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes! 
  Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it 
 felt such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady 
 out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: test

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Excellent!  Thanks, Ann!  :-)  Cheers, Christine



On May 15, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 you passed!
 ann
 
 On 5/15/2014 11:24, Christine Aguila wrote:
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Re: Geso: A Spring Walk in the Forest

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
I like the tree roots as well, Don!  Very Pretty all-round.  Cheers, Christine


On May 15, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Nice stuff Don. Love the tree roots.
 Chris
 
 On 13 May 2014 21:58, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 9 photos from a walk between raindrops last weekend. CC encouraged. Your
 choice of sites.
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157644245991768/
 
 http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/A-Closer-Look/Loomisforestwalk
 
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Re: PESOs / GESOs - Biking and Barns

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
What fun!  would have loved to join you guys—thanks Chris and Bob for sharing 
those galleries. Great Fun!  Cheers, Christine


On May 12, 2014, at 1:56 AM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote:

 Bob W visited us for the weekend and we cycled around a bit:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/BikingMK
 
 On the Sunday we visited Enstone where my mate Stephen is
 investigating a lost 17th century garden. There's a magnificent 14th
 century tithe barn on the site too. We also stopped off at Heyford
 where I got this shot of heads in a window:
 http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/Enstone/Bob'sVisit/slides/DSCF6242.html
 
 If you're interested in the Enstone stuff, feel free to dig into the
 whole gallery.
 
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Re: GESO - April Flowers II

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Pretty, pretty, pretty!  Cheers, Christine


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 Wrapping up last month's wildflower shooting...
 
 http://www.markcassino.com/b2evolution/index.php/april-flowers-ii
 
 K-3, A*200mm f.4 macro.
 
 Comments welcome!
 
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Re: GESO 2014 - 126-130 - GDG

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Absolutely love the picture of the bathroom!  Excellent!  Cheers, Christine


On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 A few more from this year's the Isle of Man trip. 
 
 https://flic.kr/p/nnkdZR
 https://flic.kr/p/nkDHE2
 https://flic.kr/p/ngQGXD
 https://flic.kr/p/nhL8fn
 https://flic.kr/p/ngddve
 
 Thanks for looking! Comments always appreciated. 
 
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Re: Steve McCurry exhibition in London

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, I’d love to see that as well!  Cheers, Christine


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 Wish I could go and see this!  The caption of the last photo contains the 
 where  when.
 
 http://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-27345747
 
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Re: Full or not

2014-05-15 Thread John
That's not very useful. Either way you look it the alcohol content is 
still zero.


On 5/15/2014 8:12 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


I thought this might add some perspective to the full frame saga:
http://mediacdn.snorgcontent.com/media/catalog/product/a/l/alwaysfull_thumb.png

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Re: PDML Photo Annual 2014 - NOW AVAILABLE

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Big thanks for all your work on this, Mark!  Looks to be another great book!  
Cheers, Christine


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 Just uploaded and ordered promo copies.
 Current Blurb promo code BLURB2014 gets you a 15% discount.
 
 Buy the hardcover:
 http://www.blurb.com/b/5303416-pdml-photo-annual-2014-hardcover
 This is on premium paper – I'll switch over to less expansive paper
 after a couple of weeks
 
 Buy the paperback:
 http://www.blurb.com/b/5303293-pdml-photo-annual-2014
 
 Details, etc. – http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/
 
 Donation page (to make up some of the production expenses) -
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Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-15 Thread John



On 5/15/2014 8:23 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Wed May 14 22:14:06 EDT 2014
Mark Roberts wrote:


Alan C wrote:


Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.


You need to switch to software that doesn't do that.



- Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
- Don't do that!


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Re: Discouraged.

2014-05-15 Thread John
There needs to be a file format that would be just like JPEG but without 
the lossy compression?


Get it to the size you want before saving in that format and then even 
if the client re-sized it  saved it over and over again it wouldn't 
lose quality.


On 5/14/2014 5:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

It really is discouraging, I shot a couple of publicity photos, gratis,
for a volunteer organization. I processed them each to a good looking
jpeg, and sent them off to the secretary of said organization, for their
use.  I received back a copy of their electronic newsletter and the
photos had been re-compressed and re-sized until all the quality had
been wrung out of it, like so much dirty dishwater.  I used to work for
small newspapers, so I shouldn't be so depressed over this, but, somehow
I still am.



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Re: OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread John

All it needs is choreography by Bob Fosse.

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https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lXKDu6cdXLI?rel=0

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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread John

Burton has an 800 number - (800) 881-3138

On 5/15/2014 9:26 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

One of my students tried to pass this if as his own work:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/snowboard2.jpg
I suspect it isn't his.

Jostein has found this:
http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/06/10/semesterinnlevering/ (scroll
down to the second image) which really looks like the work of the same
designer. I'm trying to reach the designer through various means and
I'm looking to see if the exact image my student used is on the web
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Re: Discouraged.

2014-05-15 Thread P.J. Alling
You just described what png should have been except that it became a 
bloated misbegotten camel from a committee trying to design a horse.


On 5/15/2014 1:06 PM, John wrote:
There needs to be a file format that would be just like JPEG but 
without the lossy compression?


Get it to the size you want before saving in that format and then even 
if the client re-sized it  saved it over and over again it wouldn't 
lose quality.


On 5/14/2014 5:18 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

It really is discouraging, I shot a couple of publicity photos, gratis,
for a volunteer organization. I processed them each to a good looking
jpeg, and sent them off to the secretary of said organization, for their
use.  I received back a copy of their electronic newsletter and the
photos had been re-compressed and re-sized until all the quality had
been wrung out of it, like so much dirty dishwater.  I used to work for
small newspapers, so I shouldn't be so depressed over this, but, somehow
I still am.






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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

It's derivative, at best, but since the student has already failed, why 
keep beating that dead horse.

Exactly. I've forwarded everything to my department chair. He and I
have elected not to pursue the matter any further. We'd have to get
the Dean involved and go through all kinds of hassle. Too much work
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread John

On 5/15/2014 10:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Stanley Halpin wrote:


I agree with Bob. The student’s work is clearly derivative if not a copy.
I did a Yahoo search for Burton boards since the designer’s site Jostein 
pointed to seems to indicate that his design was for that company. I did an 
unaided eye-ball scan of Yahoo images for Burton snowboards going back to 2010, 
saw nothing like this design or the one on the designer’s site. So if it is 
copied, it could be from an earlier board. My suspicion from the way Burton 
designs vary, I would guess that this was a women’s rather than a men’s board.

In addition to the designer, maybe try contacting Burton?


Nah, the design wasn't done for Burton. The original design was done
by a student, Sijle Bekkevold, as a class exercise. She chose Burton
Snowboards just for the purposes of the assignment. (Run this page
through Google Translate:
http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/04/16/logo-burton-snowboard-design/)

After examining my student's version, I'm thinking he modified the
original design in Photoshop.




Can't get Google to translate the page. It just tells me This page was
not retrieved from its original location over a secure connection.


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OT: couple of things

2014-05-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
If any of you are t hinking of selling on ebay and have not gotten on 
ebay at all or only ought things there let me know.


I have this special offer to refer people and I'll get $15 per person 
who lists anything for sale between now and June 18th, and you will get 
$15 too.  but I have to use the referal form and don't want to spam

anyone - will only send it to someone who is ok with getting it.

I got the offer from ebay because I'm top rated, I believe, and it
is genuine.

IN other news, I've gotten an eye infection from Alphagan-P, what I was 
taking most recently for my glaucoma... I thought I just had pollen 
allergies but no, it was the eye drops - although I had taken tme 
without incident for nearly a year it showed up a couple of weeks ago.

Now I'm putting a blurring ointment in my eyes at night and got put back
onto generic Trusopt.. which, thank goodness, is inexpensive at my 
K-mart pharmacy.  Checkup in one month - then probably setting up 
another cataract surgery.


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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 15 May 2014, at 15:29, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Stanley Halpin wrote:
 
 I agree with Bob. The student’s work is clearly derivative if not a copy.
 I did a Yahoo search for Burton boards since the designer’s site Jostein 
 pointed to seems to indicate that his design was for that company. I did an 
 unaided eye-ball scan of Yahoo images for Burton snowboards going back to 
 2010, saw nothing like this design or the one on the designer’s site. So if 
 it is copied, it could be from an earlier board. My suspicion from the way 
 Burton designs vary, I would guess that this was a women’s rather than a 
 men’s board.
 
 In addition to the designer, maybe try contacting Burton?
 
 Nah, the design wasn't done for Burton. The original design was done
 by a student, Sijle Bekkevold, as a class exercise. She chose Burton
 Snowboards just for the purposes of the assignment. (Run this page
 through Google Translate:
 http://ideblogg.no/siljebee/2013/04/16/logo-burton-snowboard-design/)
 
 After examining my student's version, I'm thinking he modified the
 original design in Photoshop.
 

Ask for evidence of the design process - early versions etc.

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PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't
arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in
Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here
in Boston. Go figure.

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Re: Discouraged.

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote:

You just described what png should have been except that it became a 
bloated misbegotten camel from a committee trying to design a horse.

I don't understand what you mean by this. What's wrong with PNG? The
files are much larger than JPEG but that's an unavoidable consequence
of using lossless compression with image data.
 
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OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread Bruce Walker
As reported by PetaPixel ...

http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p

A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and
dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe
will respond to this bad press?

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Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy

2014-05-15 Thread Chris Mitchell
Mine's been dispatched. Might get it tomorrow, otherwise will be
Monday. However, last year Fedex decided to route one of my packages
from the European print facility in Holland, to Scotland, then
Nashville (yes, THAT Nashville, TN) and then to London and finally
Milton Keynes. Work that one out!

Chris

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 I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.

 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!

 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.

 http://www.caguila.com/park/

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Re: OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
It's a mooving video.  Thanks Dan,  Bob S.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:17 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 All it needs is choreography by Bob Fosse.

 On 5/15/2014 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lXKDu6cdXLI?rel=0

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Bruce Walker
I think it would be really great if manufacturers added cameras to
other large and unwieldy objects. It would be so much fun to observe
folks taking pictures with, say, a big colorful beachball, or a
wheelbarrow, or a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 plywood.

#4 is interesting. Looks a lot like a photogram.


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Christine Aguila
christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:

 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.

 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!

 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.

 http://www.caguila.com/park/

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to keep a 
tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Bruce!  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 2:44 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think it would be really great if manufacturers added cameras to
 other large and unwieldy objects. It would be so much fun to observe
 folks taking pictures with, say, a big colorful beachball, or a
 wheelbarrow, or a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 plywood.
 
 #4 is interesting. Looks a lot like a photogram.
 
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
Apple should sell an accessory for the iPad which helps you keep it steady, 
like this
http://heritagephotoarchive.co.uk/img/s4/v63/p1131846004-3.jpg

and something to keep the sun off the screen, like this:
http://www.victorianpicturelibrary.com/images/preview/TP10-photographer-customers-scotsman.jpg

It would be an ideal example of inexorable progress, so I expect Amazon will 
wish to patent it.

B

 On 15 May 2014, at 20:45, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think it would be really great if manufacturers added cameras to
 other large and unwieldy objects. It would be so much fun to observe
 folks taking pictures with, say, a big colorful beachball, or a
 wheelbarrow, or a 4x8 sheet of 1/2 plywood.
 
 #4 is interesting. Looks a lot like a photogram.
 
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Bob W-PDML
You should plant plane trees. We have them here and I haven't seen a giraffe in 
South London since the Ice age.

B

 On 15 May 2014, at 20:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to keep a 
 tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage 
 HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for 
 upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
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 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
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Re: Geso: A Spring Walk in the Forest

2014-05-15 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Jack, you know how it is, 1st walk in the Spring everything looks 
like a photo op. In July its a pile of weeds  too hot to carry a camera


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 16:27:15 + (UTC)
From: Jack Davisjdavi...@comcast.net
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Subject: Re: Geso: A Spring Walk in the Forest
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Well recorded walk, Don. Especially like #333987  #8.
Nice work!

Jack

9 photos from a walk between raindrops last weekend. CC encouraged.
Your choice of sites.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157644245991768/

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/A-Closer-Look/Loomisforestwalk


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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
I shall mention this to our city planner at the next council meeting.  
Excellent idea!  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 You should plant plane trees. We have them here and I haven't seen a giraffe 
 in South London since the Ice age.
 
 B
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 20:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to keep a 
 tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage 
 HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for 
 upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes! 
  Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it 
 felt such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady 
 out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: Geso: A Spring Walk in the Forest

2014-05-15 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Chris, Lots of Spring color about but that BW tree roots called 
out to me.


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Nice stuff Don. Love the tree roots.
Chris

On 13 May 2014 21:58, Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com  wrote:

9 photos from a walk between raindrops last weekend. CC encouraged. Your
choice of sites.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/valdon/sets/72157644245991768/

http://donspix.smugmug.com/Landscapes/A-Closer-Look/Loomisforestwalk




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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Don Guthrie
Obviously the PP negates any interest in the camera used in this case. 
But I admire your picture taking as i have never taken anything to like 
with any I-device. I think the 2nd one is very impressive. Freedom!


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 10:20:19 -0500
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Subject: OT: iPad Play
Message-ID:7f64c22e-97de-4d08-b591-9b0ad5502...@caguila.com
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Hi Everyone:

These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
web.

I?m a more freeish bird now.  I?ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
that I?ve had for the last two years?all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a 
walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking 
of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)?at the age of 13, he?s 5 
foot 11 inches!

Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is 
a bit awkward to handle?no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you 
and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was 
fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.

http://www.caguila.com/park/

Cheers, Christine



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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/5/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.caguila.com/park/

Nice to hear from you! Good job, I like those XX

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Stanley Halpin
The first four don’t do anything for me but I quite like the abstraction of the 
fifth.

stan

On 15 May 2014, at 16:38, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 I shall mention this to our city planner at the next council meeting.  
 Excellent idea!  Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 You should plant plane trees. We have them here and I haven't seen a giraffe 
 in South London since the Ice age.
 
 B
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 20:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to keep 
 a tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, 
 Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported 
 them for upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   
 Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and 
 it felt such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in 
 PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady 
 out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Curious views on HCB

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone:

In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason 
Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective 
exhibition at MOMA several years ago:

The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic' by The New Yorker's Peter 
Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment of what he called [HCB's] 
'platitudinous' work:  'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing 
the heart.'  This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that 
[HCB] 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension 
builds' in the exhibition. Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to 
the work of Robert Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the 
older photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was 
moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the 
composition.'

I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's 
position.  Any thoughts from the list?

Cheers, Christine 

P.S.  I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing.  To much of the 
work was down right dull. 

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Re: test

2014-05-15 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 15/5/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

test

Testes

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks!  XXX, Sir Cotty!  Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv wrote:
 
 On 15/5/14, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Nice to hear from you! Good job, I like those XX
 
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Well, they just may be an acquired taste. :-). Thanks, Stan. Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info 
 wrote:
 
 The first four don’t do anything for me but I quite like the abstraction of 
 the fifth.
 
 stan
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 16:38, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 I shall mention this to our city planner at the next council meeting.  
 Excellent idea!  Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 You should plant plane trees. We have them here and I haven't seen a 
 giraffe in South London since the Ice age.
 
 B
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 20:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to keep 
 a tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, 
 Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported 
 them for upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   
 Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, 
 and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think 
 portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used 
 to it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it 
 steady out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not 
 shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to 
 do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Don. Much appreciated. Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Obviously the PP negates any interest in the camera used in this case. But I 
 admire your picture taking as i have never taken anything to like with any 
 I-device. I think the 2nd one is very impressive. Freedom!
 
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 Message: 15
 Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 10:20:19 -0500
 From: Christine Aguilachrist...@caguila.com
 To: PDML Listpdml@pdml.net
 Subject: OT: iPad Play
 Message-ID:7f64c22e-97de-4d08-b591-9b0ad5502...@caguila.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I?m a more freeish bird now.  I?ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I?ve had for the last two years?all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)?at the age of 13, he?s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle?no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
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Re: OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
No Bull!
Dan Matyola
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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's a mooving video.  Thanks Dan,  Bob S.

 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:17 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 All it needs is choreography by Bob Fosse.

 On 5/15/2014 8:39 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

 https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lXKDu6cdXLI?rel=0

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Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy

2014-05-15 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I received my copy about noon EDT today.

I looks just great!

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 I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't
 arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in
 Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here
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Re: Curious views on HCB

2014-05-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
When you said you were not aware of Frank's position I thought of OUR 
Frank - who certainly is a fan of HCB as am I.  I didn't know about 
Robert Frank's opinion either.


I saw the exhibit at MOMA - my final opinion was that it was too 
inclusive - that is - there was too much of the work that he did

strictly for pay, not his personal work and that somehow watered down
the impression someone might have who was unfamiliar with him.

when I was there, I ran into an old friend who happened upon some of 
that work before seeing the iconic images and was leaning toward not
being very impressed - so I took him to the good stuff :-)  and he 
thanked me.  This is a friend whose background is steeped in art and
who has a good eye doing his own mostly travel photography for the 
memories.  His father is a reknowned art collector (fairly recently 
deceased) - my point being just that he isn't a casual observer.


anyway, I love HCB and thought that the exhibit was poorly curated
and did him a disservice.

ann

On 5/15/2014 17:32, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, Jason 
Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB retrospective 
exhibition at MOMA several years ago:

The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic'

 by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment
of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work:
 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.'
  This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB]
 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension 
builds'

 in the exhibition.
Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert 
Frank, a detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older 
photographer, 'He traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was 
moved by something that was happening other than the beauty of it, or 
just the composition.'


I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's 
position.


  Any thoughts from the list?


Cheers, Christine

P.S.  I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing.  To much of the 
work was down right dull.

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I like the tree-hugger and the color one.. still would rather see your 
straight work, though.  Some cheek after my pink dogwood fabric design , eh?


It is fun to play, though.

ann


On 5/15/2014 11:20, Christine Aguila wrote:

Hi Everyone:

These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air.  
The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
web.

I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a 
walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking 
of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 
foot 11 inches!

Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is 
a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you 
and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was 
fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.

http://www.caguila.com/park/

Cheers, Christine



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Re: Curious views on HCB

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Well first off, the critics quoted come off as exactly the kind of
pretentious, self-important wankers who give art and artists a bad
name. They're the visual equivalent of wine snobs (flaccid!,
absurd!, fruity, yet arrogant).

I understand Frank's criticism and agree to a limited extent, but he
goes much too far with it. Probably a little professional jealousy
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Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:


As reported by PetaPixel ...

http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p

A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and
dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe
will respond to this bad press?



I'm away from home at present and don't have access to my Photoshop  
CC, I can't test this but, as the program is installed on my PC and  
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Looking at some of the comments on the Peta Pixel article, others are  
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Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread Bruce Walker
It seems to be affecting people differently. At least one said that
while the apps launch okay, there are serious side effects like not
being able to access any fonts.

I can't test it either as I've got CS5. ;-)


On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:44 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 As reported by PetaPixel ...

 http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p

 A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and
 dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe
 will respond to this bad press?



 I'm away from home at present and don't have access to my Photoshop CC, I
 can't test this but, as the program is installed on my PC and doesn't need
 an internet connection to use, I'm not sure how this outage would stop me
 using the software.

 Looking at some of the comments on the Peta Pixel article, others are
 wondering the same thing.



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Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 As reported by PetaPixel ...

 http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p

 A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and
 dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe
 will respond to this bad press?

I'm away from home at present and don't have access to my Photoshop  
CC, I can't test this but, as the program is installed on my PC and  
doesn't need an internet connection to use, I'm not sure how this  
outage would stop me using the software.

Looking at some of the comments on the Peta Pixel article, others are  
wondering the same thing.

The CC applications only have to phone home every so often, so I'd
guess the people experiencing the outage were just the ones whose apps
came due to check-in today.

The big irony is that those who pirated illegal, cracked versions of
CC applications will be unaffected by the outage.
 
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Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-15 16:44 Brian Walters wrote

Looking at some of the comments on the Peta Pixel article, others are wondering
the same thing.


it seems to come down to whether the outage coincides with needing to access 
something from Adobe; there are numerous services associated with CC, not just 
running already installed apps, but the actual cloud storage (which some people 
use to collaborate on projects), FontSync, downloading and installing resources 
(for example when reconfiguring a machine or setting up a new one); it may only 
affect a minority of users, but for some it will be very disruptive


those whose apps can't phone home should simply revert to trial mode without 
loss of functionality


https://status.creativecloud.com

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Stanley Halpin

On 15 May 2014, at 17:44, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 Well, they just may be an acquired taste. :-). Thanks, Stan. Cheers, 
 Christine 

Well, keep on doing them, I’ll keep looking, and maybe I will acquire the 
taste. But then again, I am an old codger…

stan

 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info 
 wrote:
 
 The first four don’t do anything for me but I quite like the abstraction of 
 the fifth.
 
 stan
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 16:38, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 
 I shall mention this to our city planner at the next council meeting.  
 Excellent idea!  Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote:
 
 You should plant plane trees. We have them here and I haven't seen a 
 giraffe in South London since the Ice age.
 
 B
 
 On 15 May 2014, at 20:56, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com 
 wrote:
 
 Yep, our neighborhood has always had a problem with giraffes. Hard to 
 keep a tree around here.  :-). Cheers, Christine 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On May 15, 2014, at 2:26 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Looks like the giraffes are eating the tree bark again.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Christine Aguila
 christ...@caguila.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad 
 Air.  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, 
 Vintage HD, then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported 
 them for upload to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   
 Yes!  Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, 
 and it felt such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think 
 portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used 
 to it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it 
 steady out in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not 
 shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to 
 do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
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Re: OT - Adobe CC is down, rendering apps and chat support unusable

2014-05-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 It seems to be affecting people differently. At least one said that
 while the apps launch okay, there are serious side effects like not
 being able to access any fonts.

 I can't test it either as I've got CS5. ;-)

CS1 here, all is good.:-)

Dave


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 wrote:
 Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com:

 As reported by PetaPixel ...

 http://t.co/WpyAPpqc1p

 A bit of schadenfreude for those us who feared such an outcome and
 dislike Internet hobbled software architecture. I wonder how Adobe
 will respond to this bad press?



 I'm away from home at present and don't have access to my Photoshop CC, I
 can't test this but, as the program is installed on my PC and doesn't need
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Re: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread Ken Waller

What a hoot !

Thanks for posting Dan

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com

Subject: OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List



https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/lXKDu6cdXLI?rel=0

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Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Thu May 15 13:32:36 EDT 2014
Mark Roberts wrote:

 P.J. Alling wrote:
 
 It's derivative, at best, but since the student has already failed, why 
 keep beating that dead horse.
 
 Exactly. I've forwarded everything to my department chair. He and I
 have elected not to pursue the matter any further. We'd have to get
 the Dean involved and go through all kinds of hassle. Too much work
 for nothing at this point.


Mark,  

Of course, it is your choice of how much of your time and energy you are
willing to invest in this. I just would like to bring to your
consideration an important (for the students' development) issue here.
I think it is very important that the student is aware that 
1) it is not OK to repeat somebody's design without acknowledging that, and 
2) he was caught doing this.

For the first, it is possible that the student might not really
see the problem in basing his/her design on somebody's else.
(And there are also cultural differences of acceptance for students 
coming from different countries. -- I don't know if you deal with any 
international students.)
Second thing, if the student knows it was unacceptable but did it,
the fact that he wasn't caught might be encouraging for the future
similar attempts. Thus, it is best for the student (and the society) if
the student is warned at the early stages and is informed about 
the possible consequences.

Even if you are not going to follow the formal procedure, I'd consider
telling him that it is inappropriate and that in this case he will get
out easily, but it wouldn't be tolerated in the future.


My colleagues and I have dealt with a bunch of cases of plagiarism that
in essence similar to this, and I am convinced that there are two types
of cases: 
1. In some patalogical cases, a simple warning doesn't do much.
Hence, things must be documented, even if no strong measures of 
panishments are used, so that the subsequent violations would be 
repeat violations and as such are subject to stronger measures (up 
to expulsion).

One of my colleagues had a case where the first serious fact of 
plagiarism of a student was not documented, and then when a different 
faculty found that the thesis (graduate level!) was plagiarized, 
since it was the 1st offense, serious measures couldn't be used.


2. In other cases, even a well delivered warning is a good enough 
message so that the student realizes the seriousness of the misconduct 
in a full perspective, and it is not an issue in the future. 


Best,

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Re: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Ken Waller
Nice job Christine - I like the rendering, subject and composition in the 
first three.


Wondering what you're going to do with them now? Are the files big enough 
for a decent size print?


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- Original Message - 
From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com

Subject: OT: iPad Play


Hi Everyone:

These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
to the web.


I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes! 
Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!


Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
with it for a bit of variety.


http://www.caguila.com/park/

Cheers, Christine


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Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy

2014-05-15 Thread Ken Waller

Mine wasa shipped on the 13th.

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From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com

Subject: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy



I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't
arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in
Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here
in Boston. Go figure.

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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-15 9:20 Christine Aguila wrote

Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it is 
a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of you 
and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it was 
fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of variety.

http://www.caguila.com/park/


hmm, i like the last two, especially the color abstract, but the color/texture 
of your nephew's outfit jarred with the retro look for me


iPad is a pretty decent camera in itself, though i think it could be even 
better as an interface for a separate camera (which would resolve some of the 
ergonomic issues)



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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread steve harley

on 2014-05-15 13:44 Bruce Walker wrote

I think it would be really great if manufacturers added cameras to
other large and unwieldy objects. It would be so much fun to observe
folks taking pictures with, say, a big colorful beachball  [...]


heh!

http://www.psfk.com/2013/03/beach-ball-camera.html


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Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy

2014-05-15 Thread Ken Waller

I looks just great!


Not wonderful ?   ;)

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From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: PDML book 2014 - Let me know when you get your copy



I received my copy about noon EDT today.

I looks just great!

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On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

I've got a few coming (thanks to the generous donors) but they won't
arrive until next week. For some reason Blurb has my orders printed in
Washington state and then shipped all the way to the east coast here
in Boston. Go figure.

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Re: For the Jazz Fans on the List

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
That is fun. I just mentioned the video to Darrel--Jazz for Cows-- and he said, 
Is that Chris Mitchell's new band?  To which I replied, no, it's a new photo 
book by Doug Brewer.  

Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 6:56 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 What a hoot !
 
 Thanks for posting Dan
 
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 - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com
 Subject: OT: For the Jazz Fans on the List
 
 
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Ann!  I like the tree hugger one too. Makes me giggle. Cheers, 
Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 I like the tree-hugger and the color one.. still would rather see your 
 straight work, though.  Some cheek after my pink dogwood fabric design , eh?
 
 It is fun to play, though.
 
 ann
 
 
 On 5/15/2014 11:20, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
  The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, 
 then just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload 
 to the web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work 
 responsibilities that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes!  
 Yes!  Yes!  I took a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt 
 such a luxury.  Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML 
 annual)—at the age of 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
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Re: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Ken. The first vertical is about 1950 x 2500. When I shoot with the 
iPad or the iPhone,  I always have the Polaroid in my mind--the size mostly, 
but a bit of the spirit as well.   I was going to print today, but I got 
distracted and didn't. Maybe tomorrow. I think I should be able to get a nice 5 
x 7. I should get these printed on postcard stock and give some to my nephew. 
Might be a hoot!

Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 7:03 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 
 Nice job Christine - I like the rendering, subject and composition in the 
 first three.
 
 Wondering what you're going to do with them now? Are the files big enough for 
 a decent size print?
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
 
 - Original Message - From: Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com
 Subject: OT: iPad Play
 
 
 Hi Everyone:
 
 These 5 pictures were shot with the iPad Air and rendered with the iPad Air. 
 The combination of photo apps used were Photogene, Snapseed, Vintage HD, then 
 just a bit of lightening in Lightroom when I imported them for upload to the 
 web.
 
 I’m a more freeish bird now.  I’ve completed some heavy work responsibilities 
 that I’ve had for the last two years—all gone now.   Yes! Yes!  Yes!  I took 
 a walk in the park yesterday with my nephew, and it felt such a luxury.  
 Speaking of my nephew, Akira, (think portrait in PDML annual)—at the age of 
 13, he’s 5 foot 11 inches!
 
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The daylight 
 glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to it, and it 
 is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out in front of 
 you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be clumsy.  Still, it 
 was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting with it for a bit of 
 variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 
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Re: OT: iPad Play

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Steve!  I once saw a gallery of work by a woman who shot with the iPad. 
The stuff was beautiful--high contrast black and white still life stuff. Just 
lovely. I was thinking of her work when I was shooting yesterday, though what I 
did and what she does is, in fact, quite different. 

Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 7:14 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2014-05-15 9:20 Christine Aguila wrote
 Shooting with the iPad was fun, but I did have some challenges.  The 
 daylight glare on the screen was somewhat annoying, but I did get used to 
 it, and it is a bit awkward to handle—no camera strap, holding it steady out 
 in front of you and figuring out how to hold when not shooting can be 
 clumsy.  Still, it was fun and a bit freeing.  I aim to do more shooting 
 with it for a bit of variety.
 
 http://www.caguila.com/park/
 
 hmm, i like the last two, especially the color abstract, but the 
 color/texture of your nephew's outfit jarred with the retro look for me
 
 iPad is a pretty decent camera in itself, though i think it could be even 
 better as an interface for a separate camera (which would resolve some of the 
 ergonomic issues)
 
 
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Re: Curious views on HCB

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila

The point about curation is well taken, Ann.  Interestingly, with respect to 
the music biz, Johnny Lovine, Beats owner, talks about the lack of curation in 
the digital music business--here's the video. 

http://www.thatericalper.com/2014/05/10/watch-beats-electronics-jimmy-iovine-talk-about-the-future-of-music-for-40-minutes/

All the Arts still need good human curation despite this digital age. 
Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 
 When you said you were not aware of Frank's position I thought of OUR Frank - 
 who certainly is a fan of HCB as am I.  I didn't know about Robert Frank's 
 opinion either.
 
 I saw the exhibit at MOMA - my final opinion was that it was too inclusive - 
 that is - there was too much of the work that he did
 strictly for pay, not his personal work and that somehow watered down
 the impression someone might have who was unfamiliar with him.
 
 when I was there, I ran into an old friend who happened upon some of that 
 work before seeing the iconic images and was leaning toward not
 being very impressed - so I took him to the good stuff :-)  and he thanked 
 me.  This is a friend whose background is steeped in art and
 who has a good eye doing his own mostly travel photography for the memories.  
 His father is a reknowned art collector (fairly recently deceased) - my point 
 being just that he isn't a casual observer.
 
 anyway, I love HCB and thought that the exhibit was poorly curated
 and did him a disservice.
 
 ann
 
 On 5/15/2014 17:32, Christine Aguila wrote:
 Hi Everyone:
 
 In the foreword to the 2013 edition of The Best American Travel Writing, 
 Jason Wilson includes some curious quotes from reviews of the HCB 
 retrospective exhibition at MOMA several years ago:
 
 The show was deemed 'almost unenduringly majestic'
 by The New Yorker's Peter Schjeldshl, who gave this stern assessment
 of what he called [HCB's] 'platitudinous' work:
 'richly satisfies the eye and the mind, while numbing the heart.'
  This was seconded by the [NYT] Holland Cotter, who claimed that [HCB]
 'ideas and emotions are diffuse' and that 'surprisingly little tension builds'
 in the exhibition.
 Both critics trotted out tired old comparisons to the work of Robert Frank, a 
 detractor of [HCB] who once unjustly said of the older photographer, 'He 
 traveled all over the world, and you never felt he was moved by something 
 that was happening other than the beauty of it, or just the composition.'
 
 I have to say I was surprised by these views, and I wasn't aware of Frank's 
 position.
 
  Any thoughts from the list?
 
 Cheers, Christine
 
 P.S.  I wouldn't recommend this edition of BA Travel writing.  To much of 
 the work was down right dull.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: Curious views on HCB

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
I think I agree with you Mark about Frank's comments, and think the point, 
which I might agree with to a degree, is made a bit too sharply. 
Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

 On May 15, 2014, at 5:32 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 
 Well first off, the critics quoted come off as exactly the kind of
 pretentious, self-important wankers who give art and artists a bad
 name. They're the visual equivalent of wine snobs (flaccid!,
 absurd!, fruity, yet arrogant).
 
 I understand Frank's criticism and agree to a limited extent, but he
 goes much too far with it. Probably a little professional jealousy
 going on there.
 
 
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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread David Parsons
I doubt anything Mark could say would have any impact if he is
skipping 25% of classes and 50% of tests, and got 37% for a final
grade.

On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:
 Thu May 15 13:32:36 EDT 2014
 Mark Roberts wrote:

 P.J. Alling wrote:

 It's derivative, at best, but since the student has already failed, why
 keep beating that dead horse.

 Exactly. I've forwarded everything to my department chair. He and I
 have elected not to pursue the matter any further. We'd have to get
 the Dean involved and go through all kinds of hassle. Too much work
 for nothing at this point.


 Mark,

 Of course, it is your choice of how much of your time and energy you are
 willing to invest in this. I just would like to bring to your
 consideration an important (for the students' development) issue here.
 I think it is very important that the student is aware that
 1) it is not OK to repeat somebody's design without acknowledging that, and
 2) he was caught doing this.

 For the first, it is possible that the student might not really
 see the problem in basing his/her design on somebody's else.
 (And there are also cultural differences of acceptance for students
 coming from different countries. -- I don't know if you deal with any
 international students.)
 Second thing, if the student knows it was unacceptable but did it,
 the fact that he wasn't caught might be encouraging for the future
 similar attempts. Thus, it is best for the student (and the society) if
 the student is warned at the early stages and is informed about
 the possible consequences.

 Even if you are not going to follow the formal procedure, I'd consider
 telling him that it is inappropriate and that in this case he will get
 out easily, but it wouldn't be tolerated in the future.


 My colleagues and I have dealt with a bunch of cases of plagiarism that
 in essence similar to this, and I am convinced that there are two types
 of cases:
 1. In some patalogical cases, a simple warning doesn't do much.
 Hence, things must be documented, even if no strong measures of
 panishments are used, so that the subsequent violations would be
 repeat violations and as such are subject to stronger measures (up
 to expulsion).

 One of my colleagues had a case where the first serious fact of
 plagiarism of a student was not documented, and then when a different
 faculty found that the thesis (graduate level!) was plagiarized,
 since it was the 1st offense, serious measures couldn't be used.


 2. In other cases, even a well delivered warning is a good enough
 message so that the student realizes the seriousness of the misconduct
 in a full perspective, and it is not an issue in the future.


 Best,

 Igor



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Re: GESO 2014 - 126-130 - GDG

2014-05-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Thank you Christine! 
And I must say, I enjoyed seeing your iPad photos. Amazing what can be done 
with these devices. :-)

G

On May 15, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 Absolutely love the picture of the bathroom!  Excellent!  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:
 
 A few more from this year's the Isle of Man trip. 
 
 https://flic.kr/p/nnkdZR
 https://flic.kr/p/nkDHE2
 https://flic.kr/p/ngQGXD
 https://flic.kr/p/nhL8fn
 https://flic.kr/p/ngddve


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Re: Perhaps The List can help with this?

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Roberts
Igor Roshchin wrote:

Of course, it is your choice of how much of your time and energy you are
willing to invest in this. 

Well, it's also up to my department chair and he seems reluctant to
take on the inevitable complications (read: work). And of course it is
not to my advantage to get into a conflict with the chair of the
department.

Thank you for the insight, though. You made a couple of points I had
considered and some I hadn't. The students and teachers both receive
education in this business, don't they?

 
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Steven Colbert's take on Amazon's patent

2014-05-15 Thread Stanley Halpin
http://www.photographybay.com/2014/05/15/colbert-report-takes-on-amazons-seamless-white-background-patent/?awt_l=6EQhYawt_m=JRw7INzp_f62xu
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Re: Steven Colbert's take on Amazon's patent

2014-05-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Yea, read about this the other day.  What a f#?king joke!  A work colleague 
also gave me an earful about what a joke the patent scene/office has become.  
Sad.
Cheers, Christine



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