Re: PESO: Cool Cox

[knarf]

I think basketball has changed in the past 80 years as well...

LOL!

Cheers, 

frank 

On November 11, 2015 12:28:46 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
 wrote:
>“Physiologists, in fact, have calculated that rowing a
>two-thousand-meter race—the Olympic standard—takes the same
>physiological toll as playing two basketball games back-to-back. And
>it exacts that toll in about six minutes.”
>
>― Daniel James Brown, The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their
>Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics
>Dan Matyola
>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
>
>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:29 PM, knarf 
>wrote:
>> He is cool. So is the shot.
>>
>> Rowing has clearly changed with the times.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>> On November 10, 2015 12:28:26 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola"
> wrote:
>>>A Coxswain at the Gardner Cup Regatta at Dartmouth College:
>>>
>>>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125332=lg
>>>K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
>>>
>>>Comments are invited.
>>>
>>>Dan Matyola
>>>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
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RE: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Malcolm Smith]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Sorry if this doesn't answer your questions directly. Unraveling a
> slightly mucked up Lightroom catalog database takes time and
> persistence. You need to look at a lot of things, one at a time, to
> determine what the state of a particular catalog is and what files it
> is looking at. Always look from catalog to file system, and then the
> other way, to determine issues that need to be fixed.

It's so important to get Lightroom to set the catalogue database right from the 
start. I thought I understood that, and I also thought that at least the images 
I had from DSLRs were in a logical order. 

Well, it turns out that knowing where to find the images on the hard disc (or 
spare drive) to view is one thing, but having a logical catalogue which makes 
sense as you add to it, work on them - and make them available for web or 
printing is something quite different. Only after I got a sizeable amount of 
the catalogue sorted did I realise that not all the images were present, but 
the whole way I stored them on the computer no longer made sense.

This became a circular problem, as I would have liked to have worked these 
issues out before making a Lightroom catalogue, yet until I was well into 
making it, I would not have known the issues!

It's taken me a while to enable Lightroom to find where the 'missing' folders 
or files went, but I have learnt a lot about the software in the process, and I 
now have the files laid out in a manner which makes sense to me and can grow 
with as I add scans of slides and negatives, as well as my latest digital 
pictures.

For someone organised, starting with Lightroom should be a big help, but if you 
don't know what it is you want until you start, you have to live with and 
correct the errors that you make!

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Re: PESO - Sinuous Garden

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Jack.
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Creative and very unique flower garden.
> Tough shooting, well handled, Rick!
>
> J
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rick Womer" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 6:57:21 PM
> Subject: PESO - Sinuous Garden
>
> Last week found me in Salt Lake City for five days of meetings. It's not an 
> easy place to shoot, because the gorgeous scenery is obscured by modern 
> clap-trap. I also had very little time.
>
> I managed to squeeze in a little photography, though:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125865
>
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
>
> Comments appreciated.
>
> Rick
>
>
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Re: PESO: Cool Cox

[Rick Womer]

I like that shot, Dan. The headband, sunglasses, microphone, and
facial expression (or lack of one) work together well.

A good friend of ours was a coxswain at Virginia 40 years ago. Her
qualifications were a strong voice and compact size (62in/ 157cm and
90lb/41kg).

Rick
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 6:15 AM, knarf  wrote:
> I think basketball has changed in the past 80 years as well...
>
> LOL!
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On November 11, 2015 12:28:46 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>  wrote:
>>“Physiologists, in fact, have calculated that rowing a
>>two-thousand-meter race—the Olympic standard—takes the same
>>physiological toll as playing two basketball games back-to-back. And
>>it exacts that toll in about six minutes.”
>>
>>― Daniel James Brown, The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their
>>Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics
>>Dan Matyola
>>http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:29 PM, knarf 
>>wrote:
>>> He is cool. So is the shot.
>>>
>>> Rowing has clearly changed with the times.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> frank
>>>
>>> On November 10, 2015 12:28:26 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola"
>> wrote:
A Coxswain at the Gardner Cup Regatta at Dartmouth College:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125332=lg
K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom

Comments are invited.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: Pentax fill-frame camera on display again

[Gonz]

I'm just wondering how much $$$ it will be for this camera.  4K? 3K?
If it was around 2K I think I might bite, anything much higher and
it'll just be on my wish list for a long time.



On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> I can actually see the use for it, though I can't imagine it being a high
> priority.  See, my dream would be having a working aperture ring, a shutter
> speed wheel, and and a dedicated. (well, programmable, but that's how I'd
> set it up), ISO wheel, which would put all the important exposure controls
> at one's fingertips.  I expect that the top unmarked wheel changes function
> based on camera settings.  Maybe even directly influenced by the where the
> right function dial is set.
>
> Really I'd rather have an aperture ring on the lens, and be able to set the
> ISO and shutter speed by the back and front wheels, but I doubt that Ricoh
> will be putting aperture rings on any new lenses, until all lens body
> connections are electronic.  So I guess I'll take the three wheels, for that
> /if/ I'm right.
>
>
> On 11/6/2015 3:01 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
>>
>> Your “selector switch” might be just that. I had taken it to be a release
>> lever to allow rotation of the selector knob. But the markings you point out
>> make it seem more like a switch.
>>
>> But what I totally don’t understand is the purpose of the film winder knob
>> on the far right of body top. No markings that I can see.  I can’t think of
>> any controls or options that couldn’t more easily be addressed with the
>> long-standard front and back wheels.
>>
>> stan
>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, I've been looking at them this morning and noticed something that
>>> I'm not sure we've discussed yet (if it was, I missed it):
>>> Under that selector knob just to the right of the pentaprism is a
>>> selector switch that seems to have 3 settings.
>>> The switch is seen well in this large overhead view:
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/10321525@N07/22381445047/sizes/k/
>>>
>>> You can see in the "behind and to the right view":
>>> https://mashdigi.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/pentax-back_resize.jpg
>>> ...that there are little icons on the bottom of that dial that see to
>>> correspond to the points at which that switch can be positioned. The
>>> leftmost appears to be a "camera" icon. I first thought the one next
>>> to it was a video symbol, but on closer examination I don't think so
>>> (but don't know what it is). Presumably we can see the icons for 2 of
>>> the 3 settings, (but not the one that the switch is currently pointed
>>> at).
>>>
>>> Interestingly, there is also a dot on the top of the body and a
>>> corresponding dot on the dial (that can be pointed at each other). The
>>> two dots can be seen here:
>>>
>>> http://tebamaruda2.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_738/tebamaruda2/1205428shs0xx0lah07jxj-80cdd.jpg
>>>
>>> I have to say that the "grid" setting on that dial is interesting to
>>> me. That used to be a feature of pro cameras focusing screens. The
>>> fact that it can be selected makes me think that it provides some sort
>>> of lines that overlay the viewfinder (but only when selected). That
>>> makes me think that this camera might have some sort of EVF overlay
>>> function or some sort of hybrid optical/EVF.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Mark Roberts
>>>  wrote:

 After the "accidental" (cough, cough) showing in NYC the camera,
 apparently officially named the K-1, is on display again at a show in
 Paris.


 http://photorumors.com/2015/11/05/pentax-k-1-pentax-full-frame-dslr-on-display/


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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Eric Weir]

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> It's so important to get Lightroom to set the catalogue database right from 
> the start. I thought I understood that, and I also thought that at least the 
> images I had from DSLRs were in a logical order. 
> 
> Well, it turns out that knowing where to find the images on the hard disc (or 
> spare drive) to view is one thing, but having a logical catalogue which makes 
> sense as you add to it, work on them - and make them available for web or 
> printing is something quite different. Only after I got a sizeable amount of 
> the catalogue sorted did I realise that not all the images were present, but 
> the whole way I stored them on the computer no longer made sense.
> 
> This became a circular problem, as I would have liked to have worked these 
> issues out before making a Lightroom catalogue, yet until I was well into 
> making it, I would not have known the issues!
> 
> It's taken me a while to enable Lightroom to find where the 'missing' folders 
> or files went, but I have learnt a lot about the software in the process, and 
> I now have the files laid out in a manner which makes sense to me and can 
> grow with as I add scans of slides and negatives, as well as my latest 
> digital pictures.
> 
> For someone organised, starting with Lightroom should be a big help, but if 
> you don't know what it is you want until you start, you have to live with and 
> correct the errors that you make!

Thanks, Malcolm. As I said in my previous post, I’ve never done anything with 
my catalog. The notion of an “organized” catalog intrigues me. Again, I have 
only one. Every image I’ve ever taken has been just dumped into it. There’s no 
structure whatsoever. Curious about how you're going about organizing yours.

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PESO: - time to play Name that flower again

[ann sanfedele]

anyone know who this is?
 Can it possible be a pentstemon in this configuration?
taken in June in my area (New York)

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/i-6Gg7P7G/A

thanks!
ann

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Re: On Two Wheels

[Collin B]

Brian,
You're too kind.  Tx.


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RE: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Malcolm Smith]

Bruce Walker wrote:

> Molly Fassbender has a fascination with self-portraits, so I brought my
> little collection of vintage cameras along to our shoot last Thursday.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22923705145/lightbox/
> 
> 645Z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO, handheld.
> 
> One light: Buff 86" extreme silver PLM boomed directly overhead.
> 
> Model: Molly Fassbender
> Hair & makeup: Judi Willrich

There's much to like here. It's striking image, an unusual but well thought
out composition, and as usual, the lighting is spot on.

I looked at a local gallery display recently of portrait photography by a
large number of different amateurs, and you could instantly spot those who
had and understanding of the subtle and suitable lighting. A look at the few
I have taken over the years, reveals I'm in the 'have not got the
understanding' category.

Malcolm  


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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Eric Weir]

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> The catalog database points to the image files in the file system, not the 
> other way around. You open a catalog/database … from there you see what image 
> files it points to and what folder it records them as being contained in. 
> 
> The specific layout of your system is hard to understand from the description 
> you provide. In (1), are you talking about what you see in Lightroom Folders 
> panel or what you see in the file system (be it Windows or OS X)?

Thanks again, Godfrey. I’m glad I asked again. You’ve opened Lightroom up 
further for me. 

I apologize for the lack of clarity. I was responding to your last 
question—"which entries in the folder panel no longer point to the actual 
files.” In my (1) and (2) I was struggling with that. I was referring to the 
Folder Panel and comparing what I saw in the detail of each of the folders 
there with what I saw in the file system. I ended up leaning one way but 
uncertain. As a result of your last message I feel certain that if I’d gone 
with my intuitions at that point I would have made another mistake. 

> Look into the folders that a specific catalog shows in Lightroom. Then look 
> to see what is on disk at that location by using the Show in Finder (or Show 
> in Windows File Manager or whatever they call it) command (a right-click on 
> the item you're looking at, either file or folder.) Once you see the data in 
> the file, you can backtrack from there to see which drive it's on. That 
> should tell you what data in the catalog you opened is up to date, or not. If 
> the data isn't real, LR should show you the dialog to locate a missing folder.

A point of clarification: I have only one folder of images in the file system. 
There is no point in trying to figure out which one to use. The issue for me—at 
least as I understand it at this point—is which of the folders in the folders 
panel is associated with the most up to date information in the catalog. Or, to 
put it differently, from which of the folders should I ask Lightroom to “find 
the missing folder."

I’ve never done anything with my catalog—and I do have only one—and was simply 
unaware of how it might be used in this situation. Going to it now I can see 
that there are duplicates of many, perhaps all, of my images in the catalog. In 
some cases they appear adjacent to each other. Others are widely separated. I 
don’t know for certain that every image is duplicated. I suspect they are. 

Most importantly, in every case I’ve looked at so far, all the images that have 
been edited are indicated as having been in the same location and thus 
associated with the same Lightroom folder, i.e., on the disk that failed and 
the folder associated with it. The other folder was created when I, as I now 
understand I should not have, imported the backup folder. It seems that the 
data regarding edits was lost when I did that. Therefore I now believe it is 
from the first folder that I should ask Lightroom to “find the missing folder.” 
Before your last message I was leaning toward using the second folder. So, 
asking, I’ve saved myself from another error.

> You can also select the folder or its containing folder in the Lightroom 
> Folders panel and right-click to use the Synchronize Folder command. This 
> will allow Lightroom to interrogate the folder and determine what if anything 
> that is in it is not in Lightroom, or needs to be removed from LR, etc. You 
> use these tools to determine whether you have all the current data and/or 
> whether what you have is up to date in the context of a given catalog. 

As I understand this, Lightroom will have to have access to the images in the 
file system, and that I should go ahead an ask Lightroom to “find the missing 
folders.” I sense that after that the Synchronize Folder command will help me 
insure that I have as complete information as possible on the images in the 
file system. 

Might it also help, once I’ve got my catalog as complete as I can make it, in 
eliminating the duplicate information? At this point all that seems to be 
associated with the folder that was created when I imported the backup database 
and to contain nothing about my earlier edits. 

> Sorry if this doesn't answer your questions directly. Unraveling a slightly 
> mucked up Lightroom catalog database takes time and persistence. You need to 
> look at a lot of things, one at a time, to determine what the state of a 
> particular catalog is and what files it is looking at. Always look from 
> catalog to file system, and then the other way, to determine issues that need 
> to be fixed. 

It’s very helpful, Godfrey. I’m OK with it taking time. And needing to try 
different things.

Do you agree my next step is to ask Lightroom to “find the missing folder”? For 
me the issue is not which database in the file system to point Lightroom to, 
but preserving the most complete information about 

Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Yolanda Rowe]

Paul, my heartfelt sympathy go out to you and your family. Rest in
peace, Marlene.

Yolanda

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:35 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last 
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
>
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Jack Davis]

Can't adequately express my sincere
sorrow, Paul.

J



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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:49 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Paul,
> 
> I'm so very, very sorry.
> 
> m
> 
>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
>> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
>> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
>> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
>> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
>> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
>> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those 
>> last days. I can’t thank them enough.
>> 
>> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 
>> bubbling over with life.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: PESO - Museum After Dark

[Jack Davis]

Love the light dappling. 
Interesting
pleasing image!

J

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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> In the Utah Natural History Museum:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125867=lg
> 
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[P.J. Alling]

I'm so sorry Paul.  I wish there was more that I could say.

On 11/11/2015 8:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Darren Addy]

Paul, please accept my sincere condolences.

I speak from some experience when I say that there are some holes in
our hearts that can never be fully healed, but we can celebrate the
chapters of our lives that were written alongside them and, in the
wake of their loss, turn our attention to the generations of our
family that will be writing the chapters to follow ours. Celebrate the
memories of the good times and please take some solace from knowing
that you were there for her through to the end. That is True Love.

It is also wonderful that you could make it possible for her to avoid
the impersonal setting of a hospital for her final days and weeks.
That is no small accomplishment. I feel confident in speaking for most
here, that we feel honored that you have shared what you have with us,
and we hope we can, in some small (and inadequate) way, share with you
in bearing the immense burden of your grief.

Respectfully,
Darren Addy

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Lenses...

[P.J. Alling]

Every time I look at a photo I've taken with the FA 20-35mm f4.0, 
whether on film or digital, I can't help to thing why couldn't it be a 
limited sheathed in machined aluminum rather than plastic...


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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Brian Walters]

Paul

I'm so very sorry to hear this.  My very sincere condolences.

That's a lovely photo and one you will undoubtedly treasure always.

My best wishes to you and your family


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On Thu, Nov 12, 2015, at 12:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in
> our home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I
> keep thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no
> longer here. Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for
> that I am eternally grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer
> Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice nurses were constantly available
> and at my side during those last days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just
> bubbling over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
> 
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Daniel J. Matyola]

My heart goes out to you and your family, Paul.

She has found her peace.

Be happy for the time you had together and that you could be there for
her when she needed you.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:35 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last 
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
>
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>
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My Wife, Marlene

[paul stenquist]

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Alan C]

Such sad news, Paul. Sincere condolences to you and yours. Peace to you all 
at this difficult time.


Alan C

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From: paul stenquist

Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2015 3:35 AM
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Subject: My Wife, Marlene

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those 
last days. I can’t thank them enough.


This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 
bubbling over with life.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul
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Re: Pentax fill-frame camera on display again

[P.J. Alling]

Look at the street prices for the Nikon D810 and Nikon D750 and take the 
average.  So about about $2350.00 but the price will probably fall to 
Nikon D610 price levels after about 9 months...


On 11/11/2015 12:58 PM, Gonz wrote:

I'm just wondering how much $$$ it will be for this camera.  4K? 3K?
If it was around 2K I think I might bite, anything much higher and
it'll just be on my wish list for a long time.



On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

I can actually see the use for it, though I can't imagine it being a high
priority.  See, my dream would be having a working aperture ring, a shutter
speed wheel, and and a dedicated. (well, programmable, but that's how I'd
set it up), ISO wheel, which would put all the important exposure controls
at one's fingertips.  I expect that the top unmarked wheel changes function
based on camera settings.  Maybe even directly influenced by the where the
right function dial is set.

Really I'd rather have an aperture ring on the lens, and be able to set the
ISO and shutter speed by the back and front wheels, but I doubt that Ricoh
will be putting aperture rings on any new lenses, until all lens body
connections are electronic.  So I guess I'll take the three wheels, for that
/if/ I'm right.


On 11/6/2015 3:01 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Your “selector switch” might be just that. I had taken it to be a release
lever to allow rotation of the selector knob. But the markings you point out
make it seem more like a switch.

But what I totally don’t understand is the purpose of the film winder knob
on the far right of body top. No markings that I can see.  I can’t think of
any controls or options that couldn’t more easily be addressed with the
long-standard front and back wheels.

stan


On Nov 5, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:

Yes, I've been looking at them this morning and noticed something that
I'm not sure we've discussed yet (if it was, I missed it):
Under that selector knob just to the right of the pentaprism is a
selector switch that seems to have 3 settings.
The switch is seen well in this large overhead view:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/10321525@N07/22381445047/sizes/k/

You can see in the "behind and to the right view":
https://mashdigi.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/pentax-back_resize.jpg
...that there are little icons on the bottom of that dial that see to
correspond to the points at which that switch can be positioned. The
leftmost appears to be a "camera" icon. I first thought the one next
to it was a video symbol, but on closer examination I don't think so
(but don't know what it is). Presumably we can see the icons for 2 of
the 3 settings, (but not the one that the switch is currently pointed
at).

Interestingly, there is also a dot on the top of the body and a
corresponding dot on the dial (that can be pointed at each other). The
two dots can be seen here:

http://tebamaruda2.blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_738/tebamaruda2/1205428shs0xx0lah07jxj-80cdd.jpg

I have to say that the "grid" setting on that dial is interesting to
me. That used to be a feature of pro cameras focusing screens. The
fact that it can be selected makes me think that it provides some sort
of lines that overlay the viewfinder (but only when selected). That
makes me think that this camera might have some sort of EVF overlay
function or some sort of hybrid optical/EVF.


On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

After the "accidental" (cough, cough) showing in NYC the camera,
apparently officially named the K-1, is on display again at a show in
Paris.


http://photorumors.com/2015/11/05/pentax-k-1-pentax-full-frame-dslr-on-display/


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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[steve harley]

i haven't said much as you've shared your journey with Marlene, but i have 
experiences that helped me empathize along the way, and now


i am glad to hear that she was able to be at home; it is both courageous and 
sweet of you to share that beautiful photo



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Re: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Bruce Walker]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
>
> I spend a lot of time thinking about light Bruce. I really do my best to
> avoid artificial light, and I am so pleased that you can bump up ISO a bit
> now with the latest cameras, tripods give you longer shutter times and
> reflectors are so useful.
>
> However, that has got to change. I read that really difficult subjects to
> correctly light for are black objects on black backgrounds; how you light
> them gives them their shape and separates them from the background. I'm
> going to invest in some lighting equipment nearer the end of the year and
> overcome this reluctance to this subject, and give problem lighting
> situations a go. Seeing I wait ages for the right light sometimes, the
> opportunity to create my own actually sounds a great idea!

Good to hear, Malcolm. And the great thing is you can start out pretty
cheaply too.

One of my favourite tricks is to create what appears to be ambient
window light where there is none so the shot looks "natural". I do
that with one or more cheap manual flashes and some white reflector
card, or even just white walls.

Like this shot:
http://off-axis.brucemwalker.com/image/85678223657

At a quick glance everyone says, "okay: a big window camera-left, right?"

Nope. A big v-flat made of white foamcore with three $50 Neewer
flashes firing into it. One is radio triggered ($20 Cowboy Studios)
and the other two are slaved to the "master". This arrangement can be
used to light up a group of people standing, at f:5.6 ISO 100.

Your black subject on black background is a good example of a tricky
_metering_ situation, but you could easily light that with just window
light. :)

I think you'll enjoy getting into these more interesting photo
challenges. It sure keeps me busy. :)

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Re: PESO - Museum After Dark

[knarf]

I expect to see Ben Stiller walk out any minute. LOL!

I like this. Great job in that tough light.

Cheers,

frank 

On November 11, 2015 9:08:20 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:
>In the Utah Natural History Museum:
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125867=lg
>
>(K-5, DA 16-45)
>
>Comments appreciated.
>
>Rick

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Re: PESO - Diabolique

[knarf]

I may not eat meat, but I think I'll leave that one alone.

:-)

Thanks for the comment, Alan. 

Cheers,

frank

On November 10, 2015 11:55:45 PM EST, Alan C  wrote:
>Nice snack for an omnivore!
>
>Alan C
>
>-Original Message- 
>From: frank theriault
>Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 3:48 AM
>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>Subject: PESO - Diabolique
>
>I know, it's a moribund plant, and the hooked spikes aren't there to
>hurt anyone, they're there to become inextricably entwined with our
>sweaters and other woollies, so we spread the seeds.
>
>Looks evil to me though, especially with the webs and dead insects:
>
>http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/11/diabolique.html
>
>Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.
>
>Cheers,
>
>frank

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Re: PESO: Cool Cox

[David Mann]

I've had sessions on a rowing machine that left me so sore at the end I could 
barely sit.  It's a fantastic full-body workout.  As pure strength and fitness 
goes it'd be one of the hardest sports to succeed in.  Good technique is 
crucial as well.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 6:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> “Physiologists, in fact, have calculated that rowing a
> two-thousand-meter race—the Olympic standard—takes the same
> physiological toll as playing two basketball games back-to-back. And
> it exacts that toll in about six minutes.”
> 
> ― Daniel James Brown, The Boys in the Boat: Nine Americans and Their
> Epic Quest for Gold at the 1936 Berlin Olympics
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:29 PM, knarf  wrote:
>> He is cool. So is the shot.
>> 
>> Rowing has clearly changed with the times.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> frank
>> 
>> On November 10, 2015 12:28:26 AM EST, "Daniel J. Matyola" 
>>  wrote:
>>> A Coxswain at the Gardner Cup Regatta at Dartmouth College:
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125332=lg
>>> K-5 II S, DA 18-135 zoom
>>> 
>>> Comments are invited.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Ken Waller]

Paul, so sorry to hear of your loss.

Words are inadequate at time like this.



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- Original Message - 
From: "paul stenquist" 

Subject: My Wife, Marlene


As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in 
our home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I 
keep thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer 
here. Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am 
eternally grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and 
Angela Hospice. The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my 
side during those last days. I can’t thank them enough.


This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 
bubbling over with life.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul



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Re: Peso-Swan Festavile

[ann sanfedele]

look at all those blig mother flockers!

Jack , I like these -interesting that the swans do seem tobe tending the 
geese

which I believe are white fronted geese.

ann

On 11/11/2015 3:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I went
looking for the celebrated subjects.
Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to be 
trumpeter swans
and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the center area.

May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.

C appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=998




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Re: Peso-Swan Festavile

[ann sanfedele]

p.s.
audubon guide
https://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/greater-white-fronted-goose



On 11/11/2015 7:51 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:

look at all those blig mother flockers!

Jack , I like these -interesting that the swans do seem tobe tending 
the geese

which I believe are white fronted geese.

ann

On 11/11/2015 3:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:


The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I 
went

looking for the celebrated subjects.
Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to 
be trumpeter swans
and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the 
center area.


May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.

C appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=998







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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Marco Alpert]

Paul,

I'm so very, very sorry.

m

On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last 
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
> 
> Paul


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Re: PESO - Diabolique

[knarf]

Thanks, Marco. I never cease to be amazed at how different nature looks up 
close.

Cheers,

frank

On November 10, 2015 10:43:08 PM EST, Marco Alpert  wrote:
>Looks pretty evil to me.
>
>Nice shot!
>
>- Marco
>
>On Nov 10, 2015, at 5:48 PM, frank theriault 
>wrote:
>
>> I know, it's a moribund plant, and the hooked spikes aren't there to
>> hurt anyone, they're there to become inextricably entwined with our
>> sweaters and other woollies, so we spread the seeds.
>> 
>> Looks evil to me though, especially with the webs and dead insects:
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/11/diabolique.html
>> 
>> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> frank
>> 
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks To all.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> 
> I am so sorry to hear this, Paul. My deepest condolences to you and your 
> family.
> 
> Mark
> 
>> On 11/11/2015 8:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:
>> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
>> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
>> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
>> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
>> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
>> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
>> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those 
>> last days. I can’t thank them enough.
>> 
>> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 
>> bubbling over with life.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>> 
>> Paul
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Re: PESO - Diabolique

[knarf]

Appreciate your nice words, Bruce. 

Thanks!

Cheers,

frank

On November 10, 2015 9:12:28 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
wrote:
>Those rich earthtone colours against the cooler background make this
>shot for me, Frank. Love nature shots like this.
>
>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 8:48 PM, frank theriault
> wrote:
>> I know, it's a moribund plant, and the hooked spikes aren't there to
>> hurt anyone, they're there to become inextricably entwined with our
>> sweaters and other woollies, so we spread the seeds.
>>
>> Looks evil to me though, especially with the webs and dead insects:
>>
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2015/11/diabolique.html
>>
>> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Igor PDML-StR]

Paul,

My deepest condolences to you and your family!

That photo is a great memory of Marlene. It is emanating bright light.
Thank you for sharing it.

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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:


As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can.t believe she.s gone. I keep
thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she.s no longer here.
Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally
grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice.
The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last
days. I can.t thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 

bubbling

over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul


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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Paul, 

My condolences on your loss. 

A lovely photo, and a wonderful remembrance for her eternity in your memory. 
With loving thoughts, these our family stay with us all the rest of our days. 
And beyond.

Godfrey


Only in silence the word, 
Only in dark the light, 
Only in dying, life;
bright the hawk's flight
  on the empty sky.
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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 5:35 PM, paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last 
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
> 
> Paul


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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Boris Liberman]

Paul,

I am so sorry about your loss. Please accept my most heartfelt 
condolences. I wish I had more words, but I have none. As you know, I 
have experienced a loss myself, quite recently. So, the wound is still 
very much burning. This year hasn't been a good year at all...


Boris


On 11/12/2015 3:35, paul stenquist wrote:

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul



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Magnum - Square Print Sale!

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

If anyone is interested, Magnum is doing another limited time Square Print 
Sale. I bought a few the last round and they're terrific. Check them out on the 
website: 

  http://store.magnumphotos.com/collections/square-prints-sale/

The sale runs until this Friday, November 13. Prints are $100 each. There's a 
selection of about 60 or so to choose from. 

enjoy,
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Re: Peso-Swan Festavile

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Ann!
I too identified Those geese as "White
Front" but was uncertain so, I just 
went with their color.
Yeah, I have issues!

J

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> On Nov 11, 2015, at 4:51 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> look at all those blig mother flockers!
> 
> Jack , I like these -interesting that the swans do seem tobe tending the geese
> which I believe are white fronted geese.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 11/11/2015 3:16 PM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>> The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I went
>> looking for the celebrated subjects.
>> Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to be 
>> trumpeter swans
>> and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the center area.
>> 
>> May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.
>> 
>> C appreciated.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997
>> 
>> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=998
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Re: PESO - Museum After Dark

[ann sanfedele]

"Night at the Museum III"

good job withthat tough lighting - tres atmospheric

ann

On 11/11/2015 9:08 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

In the Utah Natural History Museum:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125867=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Museum After Dark

[ann sanfedele]

I ALMOST said that
ann

On 11/11/2015 10:36 PM, knarf wrote:

I expect to see Ben Stiller walk out any minute. LOL!

I like this. Great job in that tough light.

Cheers,

frank

On November 11, 2015 9:08:20 PM EST, Rick Womer  wrote:

In the Utah Natural History Museum:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125867=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[ann sanfedele]

Paul - I wondered if you would have wanted me to tell the list, as I 
knew sooner being on facebook but thought perhaps not and never

got around to asking you..

But wanted to share with the list that I had been lucky enough to meet 
her twice... what a sweet woman and fabulous hostessand cook.


Love this photo of her.. So glad you had home hospice - hospice staffers 
are simply the best.. they became like friends to me

when Richard was leaving and helped so much in getting through it all.

ann

On 11/11/2015 8:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul



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PESO - Museum After Dark

[Rick Womer]

In the Utah Natural History Museum:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18125867=lg

(K-5, DA 16-45)

Comments appreciated.

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Paul]

Paul -

Words seem so inadequate at a time like this - please accept my deepest 
condolences.


-p

On 11/11/2015 7:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul



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PESO - What's in the color?

[Igor PDML-StR]

I had a brief moment today to experiment with a photo taken this morning.
(I tried something similar back in April.)

Initially, I thought of this:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Rose/_IR28909-4.jpg

But then this happened:
http://42graphy.org/misc/Rose/_IR28909-3.jpg
(And my daughter liked this one the most.)


All comments and suggestions are welcome.

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[WILSON MICHAEL]

My deepest sympathies.  I hope you are able to concentrate on the good times.

> On 12 November 2015 at 01:35 paul stenquist  wrote:
> 
> 
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here.
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice.
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
> 
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RE: PESO - What's in the color?

[Malcolm Smith]

Igor wrote:

> But then this happened:
> http://42graphy.org/misc/Rose/_IR28909-3.jpg
> (And my daughter liked this one the most.)


Mine also. I like this sort of photographic art.

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RE: My Wife, Marlene

[Malcolm Smith]

paul stenquist wrote:

> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in
> our home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I
> keep thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no
> longer here. Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for
> that I am eternally grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer
> Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice nurses were constantly available
> and at my side during those last days. I can’t thank them enough.
> 
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just
> bubbling over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

No words can convey how sad I am to hear of your loss.

Beautiful photograph.

Malcolm


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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Dario Bonazza]

I know how it feels. My deepest condolences to you and your lovely family, 
dear friend.

Dario

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Subject: My Wife, Marlene

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those 
last days. I can’t thank them enough.


This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just 
bubbling over with life.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

Paul
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Bulent Celasun]

Paul,

I am sorry...
I must say, watching her photo made me feel more strongly about your loss.
I don't know if stressing the fact that
"she was not alone" in her last minutes may ease your pain a bit.

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2015-11-12 3:35 GMT+02:00 paul stenquist :
> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
> home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my 
> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep 
> thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. 
> Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally 
> grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. 
> The hospice nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last 
> days. I can’t thank them enough.
>
> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
> over with life.
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>
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Re: OT -- Web Rant; because I won't join anywhere where it's appropriate...

[steve harley]

On 2015-11-09 12:28 , P.J. Alling wrote:

[...]  and I kind of felt that since I'm
getting "free" content from websites that the least I could do is allow them
to display less annoying advertisements, that I ignore anyway, so the
proprietors could make some money.

Well enough was enough.  Poorly formed and formatted advertisements that put
my browser in an infinite hang drove me to it.  The A-holes that write such
lousy crapwear will kill the free internet if Government regulation doesn't
do it first.



a web iconoclast whom i've followed for many years, Dave Winer 
(scripting.com) has been tackling this issue and filtering the work of 
others; here is one of the best recent articles he has pointed me to:




excerpt:

> We experience the externalities of the attention economy in little drips, 
so we tend to describe them with words of mild bemusement like “annoying” or 
“distracting.” But this is a grave misreading of their nature. In the short 
term, distractions can keep us from doing the things we want to do. In the 
longer term, however, they can accumulate and keep us from living the lives 
we want to live, or, even worse, undermine our capacities for reflection and 
self-regulation, making it harder, in the words of Harry Frankfurt, to “want 
what we want to want.” Thus there are deep ethical implications lurking here 
for freedom, wellbeing, and even the integrity of the self




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RE: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Malcolm Smith]

Bruce Walker wrote:

> Anyway, my point is that considering how important light is to great
> photographs, I think everyone should spend more time focussing on
> perfecting it. It's not so very difficult, you know. :)

Ha!

I spend a lot of time thinking about light Bruce. I really do my best to
avoid artificial light, and I am so pleased that you can bump up ISO a bit
now with the latest cameras, tripods give you longer shutter times and
reflectors are so useful.

However, that has got to change. I read that really difficult subjects to
correctly light for are black objects on black backgrounds; how you light
them gives them their shape and separates them from the background. I'm
going to invest in some lighting equipment nearer the end of the year and
overcome this reluctance to this subject, and give problem lighting
situations a go. Seeing I wait ages for the right light sometimes, the
opportunity to create my own actually sounds a great idea!

Malcolm


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RE: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Malcolm Smith]

Bob W wrote:

> I don't mean to imply that your process is 2nd-rate - I apologise if it
> seemed like that to you, just that hierarchical folders per se are not
> usually the best way of organising most things on a computer, whether
> it's photos or just general files. We don't always have any option
> though.
> 
> You can make this quicker for yourself in your circumstances though by
> importing directly from the SD card into LR and let it put them
> automatically into date-based folders. That would save you a lot of
> time and effort.
> 
> I'd consider doing something similar for scanned photos too. Scan them
> always onto the same unstructured folder and import directly from
> there.
> I've been in computing for well over 30 years so it's not really a
> question of enjoyment, just of knowing how to do stuff to make it work
> well for me, and being able to do it quite quickly.

Thanks Bob. To horrify you further I shoot jpeg on one card and RAW on the
other on everything I shoot, so I download two images to the drive. Most of
my friends aren't remotely interested in photography but like copies of
pictures if we've been out together, so a quick image I can quickly reduce
in size to e-mail bypassing software altogether is actually useful for me as
well. 

I will look at doing as you suggest above, but it will mean me getting used
to a new process when it's pass the computer. In the early evening, it can
often take me two goes to type as much as this, as someone needs this for
homework etc..

Time for bed.

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Re: Pentax fill-frame camera on display again

[Darren Addy]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Mark Roberts
 wrote:

>>P.J. Alling wrote:
>>
>>I remember reading someplace recently that Pentax didn't name any lenses
>>"K", that's just what people called them.
>
> Yup. The original K-mount lenses were just "SMC Pentax" lenses. The
> first lenses, actually, to bear the Pentax brand name. All the screw
> mount lenses made my the Asahi Optical Company were branded "Takumar"
> (or "Super Takumer or SMC Takumar").

I have a January 1976 Pentax Suggested Retail Price List that shows this:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/5978276070/

The cameras were "S" series and "K" series. Similarly the cases,
accessories, and "Macro, Micro, Copy Equipment" were either "S" or
"K". The lenses were either SMCT (Takumar) or SMC Pentax (later
referred to as SMCP). There WAS an "Asahi Pentax Mount Adapter K", but
when they originally made that or named it that, I'm not sure.

I think that third-party lens makers used the mount abbreviation of PK
to differentate from other possible P mount confusion (including the
previous m42 lenses which were also called P for Pentax or Practica).

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RE: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Malcolm Smith]

Eric Weir wrote:

> Thanks, Malcolm. As I said in my previous post, I’ve never done
> anything with my catalog. The notion of an “organized” catalog
> intrigues me. Again, I have only one. Every image I’ve ever taken has
> been just dumped into it. There’s no structure whatsoever. Curious
> about how you're going about organizing yours.

Not sure how this will help you, as generally I work in a very different way to 
most folk. Anyway, this is it:

When I first got Lightroom, I imported my digital pictures from the hard disc, 
to allow it to connect to the full image on the disc. At that point, all my 
work was in date order. As I still write a daily diary (and here I assume most 
people don't) this was a sensible way to do things for me. However, at some 
point under an entirely different heading on the spare drive, I found about 
2000+ images I thought I'd lost some time ago. It must have been a hangover 
from a transfer from an earlier computer, but with this and the continual 
adding of new pictures, the date order system could no longer work. 

I therefore rearranged the files on the hard disc into category and made a sub 
folder for each new set coming in to the relevant category. This allowed me to 
slot in the lost images and have a home for the new as they arrived in a 
logical order. What I became aware of very quickly, is by moving things around 
on the disc, whilst it made it easy for me, Lightroom could no longer find a 
large number of the pictures, so I had some fun (ongoing) to restore the links. 
It's quite a simple process and I do it when I find the one I'm looking for has 
a broken link. As I said earlier, if I'd known ahead of time how things would 
turn out, I'd have re-organised before importing.

Lastly, I don't import directly into Lightroom. Because I share the computer, 
it drives my wife nuts that photos automatically want to go in via Lightroom 
and some are hers and that's not what she wants. I have my images moved to new 
or relevant files and then import from there. Takes a few minutes longer but it 
works for me and I have no trouble importing that way. As I'm importing files 
regularly now from slide or negative scans, doing it this way also helps me to 
categorise pictures I took up to 30 years ago.

Now you need to get a reply from someone who uses it the way Adobe intended you 
to!

Malcolm


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Re: PESO: - time to play Name that flower again

[ann sanfedele]

No clue - I need to find out!
that's why I posted

ann



On 11/11/2015 2:26 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

Well, they are most unique decanter shaped blossoms in a striking purple toned 
pink.
Botanical name?

J
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To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:15:50 AM
Subject: PESO: - time to play Name that flower again

anyone know who this is?
   Can it possible be a pentstemon in this configuration?
taken in June in my area (New York)

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/i-6Gg7P7G/A

thanks!
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Re: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Bruce Walker]

Thank you very much, Malcolm!

As with anything, I find that the more I work with light the better I
understand it. I also find that when I study how to best use ambient
light it helps me to see how best to work with studio strobes and
modifiers, and vice-versa.

It's a trade-off: I have simplified my kit to two primes (a normal and
a "portrait") so I can concentrate on lighting and posing (and model
interaction) and not fussing with the camera. And I have restricted my
subject matter a lot too, I suppose.

Anyway, my point is that considering how important light is to great
photographs, I think everyone should spend more time focussing on
perfecting it. It's not so very difficult, you know. :)


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>
>> Molly Fassbender has a fascination with self-portraits, so I brought my
>> little collection of vintage cameras along to our shoot last Thursday.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22923705145/lightbox/
>>
>> 645Z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO, handheld.
>>
>> One light: Buff 86" extreme silver PLM boomed directly overhead.
>>
>> Model: Molly Fassbender
>> Hair & makeup: Judi Willrich
>
> There's much to like here. It's striking image, an unusual but well thought
> out composition, and as usual, the lighting is spot on.
>
> I looked at a local gallery display recently of portrait photography by a
> large number of different amateurs, and you could instantly spot those who
> had and understanding of the subtle and suitable lighting. A look at the few
> I have taken over the years, reveals I'm in the 'have not got the
> understanding' category.
>
> Malcolm
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Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA

[Larry Colen]

By the way, what is this baphotoshooters?

On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi  
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>Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for
>all the details across the balconies. 
>Great work! 
>
>G
>
>
>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com
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>> 
>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html
>> 
>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>> 
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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

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On 11 Nov 2015, at 18:46, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> Lastly, I don't import directly into Lightroom. Because I share the computer, 
> it drives my wife nuts that photos automatically want to go in via Lightroom 
> and some are hers and that's not what she wants. I have my images moved to 
> new or relevant files and then import from there. Takes a few minutes longer 
> but it works for me and I have no trouble importing that way. As I'm 
> importing files regularly now from slide or negative scans, doing it this way 
> also helps me to categorise pictures I took up to 30 years ago.
> 

You should import the photos directly from the SD card into Lightroom and let 
LR put them into the folder you've designated. In the Import dialog specify the 
keywords that apply to most of the photos (who, what, where - when is already 
in the metadata), and use a standard metadata thing for your static details.

When it has finished importing use the Latest Import collection, or whatever 
it's called, to identify the photos, then fine tune the keywords on a per-photo 
basis as needed. If you have time you could also quickly rank them and / or 
create a collection for the ones you want to come back to later. 

If you're reasonably clever with your keywords you can always find what you 
want.

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Peso-Swan Festavile

[Jack Davis]

The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I went
looking for the celebrated subjects.
Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to be 
trumpeter swans
and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the center area.

May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.

C appreciated.
Thanks!

J

http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997

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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

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On 11 Nov 2015, at 12:50, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
>> Sorry if this doesn't answer your questions directly. Unraveling a
>> slightly mucked up Lightroom catalog database takes time and
>> persistence. You need to look at a lot of things, one at a time, to
>> determine what the state of a particular catalog is and what files it
>> is looking at. Always look from catalog to file system, and then the
>> other way, to determine issues that need to be fixed.
> 
> It's so important to get Lightroom to set the catalogue database right from 
> the start. I thought I understood that, and I also thought that at least the 
> images I had from DSLRs were in a logical order. 
> 
> [...]
> 
> For someone organised, starting with Lightroom should be a big help, but if 
> you don't know what it is you want until you start, you have to live with and 
> correct the errors that you make!
> 

My view, which I implemented from v0.n beta of LR because it is a sound general 
principle, is that you should not confuse the physical organisation (i.e. on 
the disk) and the logical organisation, in the catalogue. Therefore I have a 
completely flat unstructured set of photographs on disk, in one folder (but see 
below), and I use LR to catalogue it. That's the point of a catalogue - to make 
multiple independent groups independently of the physical organisation, so that 
they are easy to find and to view in different ways. Folder structures on disk 
are a 2nd-rate attempt to do something similar - you don't really need two ways 
to do it. Occam's law applies.

However, my installation of LR itself does create subfolders on the disk whose 
name is based on the file date, but I suspect I set it up this way while I was 
drunk, or perhaps it was the default setting, when I first got LR. It's 
unnecessary, but quieta non movere trumps Occam.

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Re: PESO: - time to play Name that flower again

[Jack Davis]

Well, they are most unique decanter shaped blossoms in a striking purple toned 
pink.
Botanical name?

J
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Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 8:15:50 AM
Subject: PESO: - time to play Name that flower again

anyone know who this is?
  Can it possible be a pentstemon in this configuration?
taken in June in my area (New York)

https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Botanical-Gardens/i-6Gg7P7G/A

thanks!
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Re: PESO ~ Portrait of a self-portrait

[Bruce Walker]

Appreciated, Frank.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 10:26 PM, knarf  wrote:
> Like.
>
> Cheers,
>
> frank
>
> On November 10, 2015 7:33:36 PM EST, Bruce Walker  
> wrote:
>>I love the way you put that. :) Thank you very, very much, Igor!
>>
>>On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Igor PDML-StR 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>> Bruce,
>>>
>>> That's a nice shot... This point of view creates some suspense:
>>> The the way she is positioned, what she is looking at...
>>> Being pictured against the white cold-looking floor (table?) creates
>>the
>>> contrast with how hot she looks. The extended black bellows just
>>sprung into
>>> the action That's such a sexy camera!..
>>>
>>> The lady is fine.
>>>
>>> :-D
>>>
>>> Igor
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>>
 Molly Fassbender has a fascination with self-portraits, so I brought
 my little collection of vintage cameras along to our shoot last
 Thursday.

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/bruce_m_walker/22923705145/lightbox/

 645Z, DFA645 90mm f:2.8 Macro, f:11, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO, handheld.

 One light: Buff 86" extreme silver PLM boomed directly overhead.

 Model: Molly Fassbender
 Hair & makeup: Judi Willrich

 Comments welcome, as always!

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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[knarf]

That photo made me cry, Paul. Such a beautiful keepsake.

My deepest condolences to you, Gracie and the rest of your family. I'm so 
sorry...

Regards,

frank

On November 11, 2015 8:35:58 PM EST, paul stenquist  
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>As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in
>our home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
>inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I
>keep thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no
>longer here. Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for
>that I am eternally grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer
>Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice nurses were constantly available
>and at my side during those last days. I can’t thank them enough.
>
>This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just
>bubbling over with life.
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks pal.

Paul via phone

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:39 PM, knarf  wrote:
> 
> That photo made me cry, Paul. Such a beautiful keepsake.
> 
> My deepest condolences to you, Gracie and the rest of your family. I'm so 
> sorry...
> 
> Regards,
> 
> frank
> 
>> On November 11, 2015 8:35:58 PM EST, paul stenquist 
>>  wrote:
>> As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in
>> our home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my
>> inspiration and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I
>> keep thinking I have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no
>> longer here. Her passing was peaceful and apparently painless and for
>> that I am eternally grateful. Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer
>> Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice nurses were constantly available
>> and at my side during those last days. I can’t thank them enough.
>> 
>> This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just
>> bubbling over with life.
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg
>> 
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Re: My Wife, Marlene

[Mark C]

I am so sorry to hear this, Paul. My deepest condolences to you and your 
family.


Mark

On 11/11/2015 8:35 PM, paul stenquist wrote:

As many of you know, my wife, Marlene, succumbed to cancer yesterday in our 
home, without the angst of a hostpital environment. She has been my inspiration 
and partner for 45 years, and I can’t believe she’s gone. I keep thinking I 
have to go check on her, but then remember she’s no longer here. Her passing 
was peaceful and apparently painless and for that I am eternally grateful. 
Kudos to the doctors at Karmanos Cancer Center and Angela Hospice. The hospice 
nurses were constantly available and at my side during those last days. I can’t 
thank them enough.

This is my favorite photo of her. She was 23 years old here and just bubbling 
over with life.
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17112934=lg

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Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA

[Marco Alpert]

Hm... not sure how that made it into the subject line here on PDML (I think 
maybe via Godfrey's response), but it's a (currently very low traffic) list for 
SF Bay Area photographers. 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baphotoshooters/info

m

On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

> By the way, what is this baphotoshooters?
> 
> On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>  wrote:
>> Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for
>> all the details across the balconies. 
>> Great work! 
>> 
>> G
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com
>> [baphotoshooters]  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html
>>> 
>>> Comments, as always, welcomed.
>>> 
>>> -Marco
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Re: Peso-Swan Festavile

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, Bulent!
Your supreme scene remarks are much appreciated!

J

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I liked both the original and the crop.

The light is beautiful and the scene is calm, relaxing...

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2015-11-11 22:16 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>
>
> The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I went
> looking for the celebrated subjects.
> Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to be 
> trumpeter swans
> and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the center area.
>
> May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.
>
> C appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=998
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Re: Peso-Swan Festavile

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I liked both the original and the crop.

The light is beautiful and the scene is calm, relaxing...

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2015-11-11 22:16 GMT+02:00 Jack Davis :
>
>
> The annual locally run Swan Festival is under way in this area, so I went
> looking for the celebrated subjects.
> Am, attaching a couple shots of a flock containing what I believe to be 
> trumpeter swans
> and some brown geese(?) Also, a further crop of a portion of the center area.
>
> May ask Santa for a big brother to the 55~300.
>
> C appreciated.
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=997
>
> http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=998
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Re: November PUG - On Two Wheels - is now up

[WILSON MICHAEL]

> On 10 November 2015 at 20:53 Bill  wrote:

> There are literally tens of thousands of old vehicles sitting in the 
> middle of farmers fields in southern Saskatchewan.

You could have written that sentence about the Outer Hebrides, too.  In fact, if
you don't have a donor version of the vehicle you drive, I think the local
authority provides one for you.

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Re: [baphotoshooters] Housekeeping - MMA

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

BAPhotoShooters is a Yahoo group I created sometime in and around 2008 to 
provide a way for folks who attended the Pacific Art League's photo group to 
chat, share photos, and get together for occasional parties and fun. There are 
a few other folks on it who've subscribed after the original thought came and 
went. I have it configured so that it puts the [baphotoshooters] key into the 
subject line, easy to find and for filters to pick up in Mail. 

I usually try to remove subject keys when posting across different email and 
group addresses, just missed it this time. Sorry for the annoyance. 

G

> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Marco Alpert  wrote:
> 
> Hm... not sure how that made it into the subject line here on PDML (I think 
> maybe via Godfrey's response), but it's a (currently very low traffic) list 
> for SF Bay Area photographers. 
> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/baphotoshooters/info
> 
> m
> 
> On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
>> By the way, what is this baphotoshooters?
>> 
>> On November 10, 2015 11:45:00 AM PST, Godfrey DiGiorgi 
>>  wrote:
>>> Like this one a lot. It lead me on a pleasant detail hunt looking for
>>> all the details across the balconies. 
>>> Great work! 
>>> 
>>> G
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Marco Alpert ma...@alpert.com
>>> [baphotoshooters]  wrote:
 
 http://www.alpert.com/marco/photo15/peso24.html
 
 Comments, as always, welcomed.
 
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RE: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Malcolm Smith]

Bob W wrote:

> My view, which I implemented from v0.n beta of LR because it is a sound
general principle, is that you should not confuse the physical organisation
(i.e. on the disk) and > the logical organisation, in the catalogue.
Therefore I have a completely flat unstructured set of photographs on disk,
in one folder (but see below), and I use LR to > catalogue it. That's
the point of a catalogue - to make multiple independent groups independently
of the physical organisation, so that they are easy to find and to view 
> in different ways. Folder structures on disk are a 2nd-rate attempt to do
something similar - you don't really need two ways to do it. Occam's law
applies.

> However, my installation of LR itself does create subfolders on the disk
whose name is based on the file date, but I suspect I set it up this way
while I was drunk, or> perhaps it was the default setting, when I first
got LR. It's unnecessary, but quieta non movere trumps Occam.

And:

> You should import the photos directly from the SD card into Lightroom
> and let LR put them into the folder you've designated. In the Import
> dialog specify the keywords that apply to most of the photos (who,
> what, where - when is already in the metadata), and use a standard
> metadata thing for your static details.
> 
> When it has finished importing use the Latest Import collection, or
> whatever it's called, to identify the photos, then fine tune the
> keywords on a per-photo basis as needed. If you have time you could
> also quickly rank them and / or create a collection for the ones you
> want to come back to later.
> 
> If you're reasonably clever with your keywords you can always find what
> you want.

Bob, I don't disagree with any of that. I did in my earlier post to Eric
state that someone who uses it correctly should post and follow their
advice.

In an ideal world I would have my own laptop set up for myself and I could
use the software a better way. Sadly, as someone who shares the use of this
computer with several family members, I have to do things in a way that if I
am interrupted I know where I last was. I also expect people are
considerably more computer literate than I am, and as one who doesn't overly
enjoy computer programmes and dislikes computer games, I have two 400+ page
books at close hand to use either Lightroom or Elements. I am far more at
home with a fountain pen and paper. I accept that to you how I am doing this
is second rate, but I'm OK with that because I can make this work for me.
I'm still getting to grips with creating a website a bit at a time, because
whilst I'll be delighted with the finished result, it's beyond me how people
actually enjoy creating this sort of thing.

Malcolm


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Re: Deleting folders from Lightroom navigator

[Bob W-PDML]

> On 11 Nov 2015, at 23:02, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> [...] I am far more at
> home with a fountain pen and paper. I accept that to you how I am doing this
> is second rate, but I'm OK with that because I can make this work for me.

I don't mean to imply that your process is 2nd-rate - I apologise if it seemed 
like that to you, just that hierarchical folders per se are not usually the 
best way of organising most things on a computer, whether it's photos or just 
general files. We don't always have any option though.

You can make this quicker for yourself in your circumstances though by 
importing directly from the SD card into LR and let it put them automatically 
into date-based folders. That would save you a lot of time and effort.

I'd consider doing something similar for scanned photos too. Scan them always 
onto the same unstructured folder and import directly from there.

> I'm still getting to grips with creating a website a bit at a time, because
> whilst I'll be delighted with the finished result, it's beyond me how people
> actually enjoy creating this sort of thing.

I've been in computing for well over 30 years so it's not really a question of 
enjoyment, just of knowing how to do stuff to make it work well for me, and 
being able to do it quite quickly.

B
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