date:20170106


I just sat down to check mail at 11:25 & I see your message. I'm in the
same time zone as you.

On 1/6/2017 11:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

am I?

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Re: test


On 1/6/2017 11:23 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

test


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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

I just checked KEH.com and they have a plain old K-5 in stock for a bit 
over $300.  The 16-50 isn't listed but they're still manufactured and 
KEH generally sells them for about 10-20% less than retail new for EX 
condition.   So if you bought it before the recent price increase you 
can probably get almost what you paid for it.I've been told by the 
local camera shop that they price their used gear based on KEH's prices.



On 1/6/2017 10:30 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Howdy, folks!  I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I
left about a year or two ago...

I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
years, actually.

It pains me to watch my K5 and lenses just rot in a bag - is there *any*
resale value on an original, "well-loved" K-5 body?  And what's the current
state of opinion on the 16-50?  (But if each are only a couple hundred,
I'll probably just tuck the big ol' bag of gear into a cabinet and let 'em
sit there...)




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Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash 
very often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.


Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of 
Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the 
product.   They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not 
getting a new product out to take advantage of the major buying season 
of the year...


http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384

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Re: test

2017-01-06 Thread Jack Davis

Ya' past, Ann! Congrats!

J

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> test
> 
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Re: I'm supposed to be back --


Actually this looks like your front.


On 1/6/2017 11:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

am I?

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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

2017-01-06 Thread Gonz

I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash very
> often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.
>
> Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
> Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the product.
> They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a new
> product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...
>
> http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384
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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL




Gonz wrote:

I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.


Yeah, I had three of their radio trigger manual flashes all have the 
same failure mode, they would only fire at full power.



On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:

I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash very
often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.

Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the product.
They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a new
product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384

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Re: macro lens

2017-01-06 Thread Mark C

I considered getting one of those but after thinking it over decided not
to - I can't see what niche it would fill.

The infinity to 2:1 sounds ideal for a field macro lens where you might
want ot quickly work different subjects at widely different levels of
magnification. But to me that is offset bu the lens not being A
compatible which not only hinders the ability to meter quickly but also
limits any auto modes and use of TTL flash. Plus, 60mm is not ideal IMO
for field macro work.

In the studio the stop down metering / manual flash would not be an
issue and the 2x magnification would probably be more useful, but then
its really easy to get high magnifications in the studio from standard
lenses or enlarger lenses or whatever. The ability to focus to 2x would
be great, but there is less need for infinity focus (unless you have a
really big studio).

As cool as the lens sounds I could not see how I could really take
advantage of the inifinty to 2x feature.

The final coffin nail for me is that I already have a DFA 50mm f2.8
which is an excellent lens. It might be a somewhat different story if I
did not already have that (and a few other really excellent 50mm lenses).

Mark

On 1/4/2017 3:52 PM, Gonz wrote:

Thinking of getting one of these, they make it in Pentax mount too...
anybody have any experience with one? The 2:1 sounds great.

http://petapixel.com/2015/02/02/review-venus-60mm-f2-8-worlds-first-21-macro-lens-infinity-focus/

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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

2017-01-06 Thread Ken Waller

Larry, are you stuttering? 
I just received 4 emails from you all the same subject, same time sent!
Trying to make up for low traffic on the list? <:+)


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>From: Larry Colen 
>Subject: Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL
>
>
>
>Gonz wrote:
>> I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
>> general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
>> fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.
>
>Yeah, I had three of their radio trigger manual flashes all have the 
>same failure mode, they would only fire at full power.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
>>   wrote:
>>> I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash very
>>> often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.
>>>
>>> Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
>>> Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the product.
>>> They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a new
>>> product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...
>>>
>>> http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384
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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL




Ken Waller wrote:

Larry, are you stuttering?


Nope. I'm not.


I just received 4 emails from you all the same subject, same time sent!
Must be a hiccup between the mail client and the server. Interestingly, 
only one showed up in my email.  Maybe your email client just really 
likes the way I write.



Trying to make up for low traffic on the list?<:+)

You can say that again.





-Original Message-

From: Larry Colen
Subject: Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL



Gonz wrote:

I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.

Yeah, I had three of their radio trigger manual flashes all have the
same failure mode, they would only fire at full power.


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
   wrote:

I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash very
often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.

Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the product.
They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a new
product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384

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Re: OT Phalacrocoracidae

2017-01-06 Thread Bob W-PDML

Ars longa vita brevis. Which is Latin for tl;dr.

> On 6 Jan 2017, at 10:22, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> If you read the story, I think you'll find he would have thought all his ships
> had berthed at once, had he an M lens on a digital body.  Early photographers,
> with their combination of artistic and technical skills _in the field_, never
> cease to amaze me.
> 
>> On 05 January 2017 at 15:01 Gonz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.arthur-conan-doyle.com/index.php?title=After_Cormorants_with_a_Camera
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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

That's actually been diagnosed by the "internet", apparently there's a 
low power capacitor that Yongnuo has cheaped on  that needs to be 
replaced.   That keeps the tube from firing when everything else 
functions properly.  It's a DYI thing as Yongnuo doesn't seem to 
acknowledge the problem, in fact doesn't seem to recognize that customer 
relations beyond rock bottom prices matter in commerce.   I guess that 
business model works for them.


Here's a video on replacing it, in Hebrew unfortunately, as I don't 
speak Hebrew.


I wish the hell that people would still publish stuff like this on a web 
page with photos...  Videos are a pain for DIY projects.


On 1/6/2017 12:26 PM, Gonz wrote:

I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:

I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use Flash very
often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.

Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the product.
They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a new
product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384

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Here's the YouTube link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6j-YoVr0io


On 1/6/2017 1:50 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
That's actually been diagnosed by the "internet", apparently there's a 
low power capacitor that Yongnuo has cheaped on  that needs to be 
replaced.   That keeps the tube from firing when everything else 
functions properly.  It's a DYI thing as Yongnuo doesn't seem to 
acknowledge the problem, in fact doesn't seem to recognize that 
customer relations beyond rock bottom prices matter in commerce.   I 
guess that business model works for them.


Here's a video on replacing it, in Hebrew unfortunately, as I don't 
speak Hebrew.


I wish the hell that people would still publish stuff like this on a 
web page with photos...  Videos are a pain for DIY projects.


On 1/6/2017 12:26 PM, Gonz wrote:

I've had mixed luck with a pair of younguos, not this version but more
general purpose.  they stop working as if the battery is out, but a
fresh pair of batteries does not fix it.  sporadic failures.


On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:50 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
I don't know if anyone else is interested in this.  I don't use 
Flash very

often so a bargain P-TTL flash looks very attractive.

Yongnuo has gotten a little further in their quest to capture some of
Pentaxian lucre.  More specifications hinted at and pictures of the 
product.
They do seem to be following in Pentax's foot steps in not getting a 
new

product out to take advantage of the major buying season of the year...

http://www.hkyongnuo.com/e-detaily.php?ID=384

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Robinson

Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700.
The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair"
or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!).  The 16-50 is as good as
it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a bit and see - perhaps starting
with the local shoppe is a good start, saving all the hassle of shipping
and whatnot.

In other news - I've missed this list!   Perhaps I'll stick around a bit.
 :-)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 10:40 AM, P. J. Alling 
wrote:

> I just checked KEH.com and they have a plain old K-5 in stock for a bit
> over $300.  The 16-50 isn't listed but they're still manufactured and KEH
> generally sells them for about 10-20% less than retail new for EX
> condition.   So if you bought it before the recent price increase you can
> probably get almost what you paid for it.I've been told by the local
> camera shop that they price their used gear based on KEH's prices.
>
>
> On 1/6/2017 10:30 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
>
>> Howdy, folks!  I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I
>> left about a year or two ago...
>>
>> I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
>> OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
>> years, actually.
>>
>> It pains me to watch my K5 and lenses just rot in a bag - is there *any*
>> resale value on an original, "well-loved" K-5 body?  And what's the
>> current
>> state of opinion on the 16-50?  (But if each are only a couple hundred,
>> I'll probably just tuck the big ol' bag of gear into a cabinet and let 'em
>> sit there...)
>>
>>
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Re: macro lens

2017-01-06 Thread Bruce Walker

Wow! I didn't know you could get an LBA shot.

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Mark C  wrote:
> I considered getting one of those but after thinking it over decided not to
> - I can't see what niche it would fill.
>
> The infinity to 2:1 sounds ideal for a field macro lens where you might want
> ot quickly work different subjects at widely different levels of
> magnification. But to me that is offset bu the lens not being A compatible
> which not only hinders the ability to meter quickly but also limits any auto
> modes and use of TTL flash. Plus, 60mm is not ideal IMO for field macro
> work.
>
> In the studio the stop down metering / manual flash would not be an issue
> and the 2x magnification would probably be more useful, but then its really
> easy to get high magnifications in the studio from standard lenses or
> enlarger lenses or whatever. The ability to focus to 2x would be great, but
> there is less need for infinity focus (unless you have a really big studio).
>
> As cool as the lens sounds I could not see how I could really take advantage
> of the inifinty to 2x feature.
>
> The final coffin nail for me is that I already have a DFA 50mm f2.8 which is
> an excellent lens.  It might be a somewhat different story if I did not
> already have that (and a few other really excellent 50mm lenses).
>
> Mark
>
> On 1/4/2017 3:52 PM, Gonz wrote:
>>
>> Thinking of getting one of these, they make it in Pentax mount too...
>> anybody have any experience with one?  The 2:1 sounds great.
>>
>>
>> http://petapixel.com/2015/02/02/review-venus-60mm-f2-8-worlds-first-21-macro-lens-infinity-focus/
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Steve Cottrell

On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
>OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
>years, actually.

Hi Charles.

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Charles Robinson

I do have a couple of adapters - still working out which lenses work well
with the OM-D and which do not.  I'm jealous of that 85mm f1.4!

My biggest problem with adapting the old K and A lenses is that my eyes are
starting to SUCK - I'll dial the focus in, think I've got it, hit the
shutter... and later I'll see that I was MILES from being in focus.  Even
using the focus peaking.  Old man... (sigh)

On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 1:48 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
> >OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
> >years, actually.
>
> Hi Charles.
>
> Been using a Pen-F for a while, you might like to glance at this page ;-)
>
>
> 
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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jan 6, 2017, at 11:48 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 6/1/17, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:
>> I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
>> OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
>> years, actually.
> 
> Hi Charles.
> Been using a Pen-F for a while, you might like to glance at this page ;-)
> 
> 

Ah, lens porn... ! :-)
I should do beauty shots of the SL with R lenses, eh?

G

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)




Charles Robinson wrote:

Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under $700.
The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as "fair"
or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!).  The 16-50 is as good as
it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a bit and see - perhaps starting
with the local shoppe is a good start, saving all the hassle of shipping
and whatnot.

In other news - I've missed this list!   Perhaps I'll stick around a bit.
  :-)


It might say Olympus on your camera certificate, but do stick around 
there are several other people here shooting other brands that still 
identify as Pentaxians. Unless the North Carolina legislature figures 
out a way to legislate access to this list, you're most welcome here.


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Re: Yongnuo YN585EX Flash for Pentax P-TTL

2017-01-06 Thread Zos Xavius

These do run with wireless p-ttl if that makes them any more enticing.

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Re: I'm supposed to be back --

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 03:00 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> am I?

Nah...


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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

G'day Charles

Nice to hear from you again.

By all means hang around - you wouldn't be the only one shooting other
brands.  I've gone down the OMD route too (just bought an E-M5ii to add
to my E-M10) but I still like to drag out the K-5 from time to time. 
It's still a great camera - these days, just a bit too heavy to lug it
and a few lenses around like I used to...

I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and
competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the
K-01, it wasn't what I wanted).



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On Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 02:30 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:
> Howdy, folks!  I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I
> left about a year or two ago...
> 
> I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
> OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
> years, actually.
> 
> It pains me to watch my K5 and lenses just rot in a bag - is there *any*
> resale value on an original, "well-loved" K-5 body?  And what's the
> current
> state of opinion on the 16-50?  (But if each are only a couple hundred,
> I'll probably just tuck the big ol' bag of gear into a cabinet and let
> 'em
> sit there...)
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Re: Another test - Pixel Shift

Interesting comparisons. I see a small but noticeable improvement in
detail  in Image 3 compared with image 1.

If I recall correctly, Ricoh's implementation of pixel shift produces
images with the same pixel dimensions as a 'normal' image but with
increased detail. This contrasts with the Olympus implementation which
produces images about 4 times (in area) that of the 'normal' file.  I
just bought an E-M5 MkII but I'm yet to test its pixel shift capability.
 I'm not sure it's something I'd use often anyway.


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On Fri, Jan 6, 2017, at 04:00 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:
> Been done before I am sure. I had heard since forever that LR could not
> take advantage of pixel-shifted files from the K-3ii or K-1.  But I saw a
> discussion recently that implied to me that LR did work.
> As part of my recent look at the Leica-M adapter for K mount, I shot some
> of the images with pixel shift turned ON.
> 
> Following a recent discussion on a Facebook pentax group, I did a bit
> more and a comparison.
> 
> 1. Pixel shift does seem to make a difference in resolution. My test was
> not the best.
> 2. Pixel shift -> files about 3.5 times the size of a “normal” K-1 DNG.
> 3. Lightroom does not know how to process such files.
> 4. Lightroom generates color artifacts when processing such images.
> 5. If the weather ever warms up I’ll go to the storage locker, retrieve
> the disc that came with the camera, and redo this using Pentax’s version
> of silkypiks.
> 
> The link below takes you to the first of three images.
> 
> Image 1: a regular K-1 DNG
> Image 2: a K-1 image with no changes to settings etc. except that Pixel
> Shift was ON - image file stored as DNG
> Image 3: the same image capture as in # 2, but this time I did an
> in-camera processing of the file to create a TIFF file.
> 
> The linked images are a smallish crop of the original images.
> 
> http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p566717840/h80f3d918#h80f3d918
> 
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Re: Another test - Pixel Shift




Stanley Halpin wrote:

Been done before I am sure. I had heard since forever that LR could
not take advantage of pixel-shifted files from the K-3ii or K-1. But I
saw a discussion recently that implied to me that LR did work.
As part of my recent look at the Leica-M adapter for K mount, I shot
some of the images with pixel shift turned ON.

Following a recent discussion on a Facebook pentax group, I did a bit
more and a comparison.

1. Pixel shift does seem to make a difference in resolution. My test
was not the best.
2. Pixel shift -> files about 3.5 times the size of a “normal” K-1 DNG.
3. Lightroom does not know how to process such files.
4. Lightroom generates color artifacts when processing such images.
5. If the weather ever warms up I’ll go to the storage locker,
retrieve the disc that came with the camera, and redo this using
Pentax’s version of silkypiks.


Or you could pretend that it's the 21st century and just download the 
software from here:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/download_digital.html

Windows:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/silkypix3_win.html

Mac:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/silkypix3_mac.html


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Re: Another test - Pixel Shift




Larry Colen wrote:



Or you could pretend that it's the 21st century and just download the
software from here:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/download_digital.html


Oops my bad, those seem to be only for the Q

Mac:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/dc_utility5_mac.html

Windows
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/dc_utility5_win.html



Windows:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/silkypix3_win.html

Mac:
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another test - I THINK I'm back

2017-01-06 Thread ann sanfedele



sigh...

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)


On 1/6/2017 1:59 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

I do have a couple of adapters - still working out which lenses work well
with the OM-D and which do not.  I'm jealous of that 85mm f1.4!




You don't want to click this link.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/xt-1pron1.html

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)


On 1/6/2017 2:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Charles Robinson wrote:

Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under
$700.
The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as
"fair"
or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!).  The 16-50 is as
good as
it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a bit and see - perhaps starting
with the local shoppe is a good start, saving all the hassle of shipping
and whatnot.

In other news - I've missed this list!   Perhaps I'll stick around a bit.
  :-)


It might say Olympus on your camera certificate, but do stick around
there are several other people here shooting other brands that still
identify as Pentaxians. Unless the North Carolina legislature figures
out a way to legislate access to this list, you're most welcome here.



Larry is, of course, not speaking for Walkden.

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Re: macro lens


On 1/6/2017 1:46 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Wow! I didn't know you could get an LBA shot.




I find it's less difficult if the lens in question is not a Pentax.

Fer gawds sake, I probably have a dozen or more 50mm lenses.


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Re: Another test - Pixel Shift


On 1/5/2017 11:00 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Been done before I am sure. I had heard since forever that LR could
not take advantage of pixel-shifted files from the K-3ii or K-1.  But
I saw a discussion recently that implied to me that LR did work. As
part of my recent look at the Leica-M adapter for K mount, I shot
some of the images with pixel shift turned ON.

Following a recent discussion on a Facebook pentax group, I did a bit
more and a comparison.

1. Pixel shift does seem to make a difference in resolution. My test
was not the best. 2. Pixel shift -> files about 3.5 times the size of
a “normal” K-1 DNG. 3. Lightroom does not know how to process such
files. 4. Lightroom generates color artifacts when processing such
images. 5. If the weather ever warms up I’ll go to the storage
locker, retrieve the disc that came with the camera, and redo this
using Pentax’s version of silkypiks.


Where I really notice the difference is in reds, flowers especially. 
They don't blow out as fast.


I'm surprised Lightroom does a crappy job with them, Photoshop does OK 
with them.


This was a 25 or so pixel shift stack that I think worked pretty well. 
The reds blew a bit when I changed the profile to sRGB, in Prophoto they 
are good.


http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/photos/index.html#/view/ID612608

You will take best advantage of pixel shift with images that are fully 
in focus, which is why I do so many stacks, and where there is no 
movement, though there is a motion correction setting that may help.


The green artifacting is weird, it appears to only be infecting the 
blown areas.





The link below takes you to the first of three images.

Image 1: a regular K-1 DNG Image 2: a K-1 image with no changes to
settings etc. except that Pixel Shift was ON - image file stored as
DNG Image 3: the same image capture as in # 2, but this time I did an
in-camera processing of the file to create a TIFF file.

The linked images are a smallish crop of the original images.

http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p566717840/h80f3d918#h80f3d918

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)


On 1/6/2017 3:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Charles Robinson wrote:

Yeah, I think I got it about a zillion years ago for something under
$700.
The K5 has been "well loved" and would probably be listed by KEH as
"fair"
or maybe even "BGN" (or even UGLY - don't know!).  The 16-50 is as
good as
it ever was, though, so I'll poke around a bit and see - perhaps starting
with the local shoppe is a good start, saving all the hassle of shipping
and whatnot.

In other news - I've missed this list!   Perhaps I'll stick around a bit.
  :-)


It might say Olympus on your camera certificate, but do stick around
there are several other people here shooting other brands that still
identify as Pentaxians. Unless the North Carolina legislature figures
out a way to legislate access to this list, you're most welcome here.



They won't have time to legislate PDML, they're too busy trying to find
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Re: Another test - Pixel Shift


On 1/6/2017 3:03 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Interesting comparisons. I see a small but noticeable improvement in
detail  in Image 3 compared with image 1.

If I recall correctly, Ricoh's implementation of pixel shift produces
images with the same pixel dimensions as a 'normal' image but with
increased detail. This contrasts with the Olympus implementation which
produces images about 4 times (in area) that of the 'normal' file.  I
just bought an E-M5 MkII but I'm yet to test its pixel shift capability.
 I'm not sure it's something I'd use often anyway.



I'm not sure about the Olympus version. It's a cheap way of making a big 
pixel count image, but then you will most likely bin most of them anyway.


The Pentax version actually does a lot more for the image than that. I 
didn't think I would use it much until I started using it.



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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

Sadly, the K-01 wasn't really what anyone wanted.  Sales outside Japan 
were disappointing, and I at least thought that no one would ever 
attempt a mirrorless camera that natively supported DSLR lenses again.


Then came the Sigma mirrorless sd Quatro cameras, and the concept though 
wounded still appeared to be limping along.  The reviews of the Sigma 
cameras however make it clear the Sigma didn't so much save the concept 
but deliver the coup de grâce.


There's noting wrong with the concept, the execution however of it has 
failed.  Marketers being marketers won't be able to tell the difference 
between failure of concept and failure of execution.



On 1/6/2017 4:02 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day Charles

Nice to hear from you again.

By all means hang around - you wouldn't be the only one shooting other
brands.  I've gone down the OMD route too (just bought an E-M5ii to add
to my E-M10) but I still like to drag out the K-5 from time to time.
It's still a great camera - these days, just a bit too heavy to lug it
and a few lenses around like I used to...

I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and
competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the
K-01, it wasn't what I wanted).



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On Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 02:30 AM, Charles Robinson wrote:

Howdy, folks!  I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I
left about a year or two ago...

I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
years, actually.

It pains me to watch my K5 and lenses just rot in a bag - is there *any*
resale value on an original, "well-loved" K-5 body?  And what's the
current
state of opinion on the 16-50?  (But if each are only a couple hundred,
I'll probably just tuck the big ol' bag of gear into a cabinet and let
'em
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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)




P. J. Alling wrote:

Sadly, the K-01 wasn't really what anyone wanted. Sales outside Japan
were disappointing, and I at least thought that no one would ever
attempt a mirrorless camera that natively supported DSLR lenses again.


By not even having an EVF and just using the large display on the back, 
they forced people to keep it at arms length, both physically and 
metaphorically. They were trying to appeal to people that used phones as 
their cameras, without realizing that those people were not interested 
in real cameras.


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Re: another test - I THINK I'm back

2017-01-06 Thread Paul in MKE


You're here...=-O

-p


On 1/6/2017 5:23 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:


sigh...

ann




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Re: another test - I THINK I'm back

2017-01-06 Thread Stanley Halpin

Where did you go? Someplace warm I hope…

stan

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Re: Lisbon Jeronimos Monastery

2017-01-06 Thread Stanley Halpin

Nice. It seems a bit dark and lacking contrast on my screen, but I think that 
is due to my cataracts which are slowly developing…

I am having a hard time reconciling the notion of monastery with such an 
opulant setting. Aren’t monastery’s about humble and self-effacing and retreat 
from the world?

I have been many places but so far mainland Portugal is not on my list. I think 
I would like to spend some time in Lisbon one of these days…

stan

> On Jan 3, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I had a meeting in Lisbon in November, and my wife and I took a few days' 
> holiday before it started.
> 
> This is one of the lesser entrances to the Jerominos Monastery, started in 
> 1501, finished a century later, and damaged only slightly by the 1755 
> earthquake:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18329263
> 
> (K-5, DA 16-45)
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
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> 
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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread steve harley


On 2017-01-06 8:30 , Charles Robinson wrote:

Howdy, folks!  I used to be on this list and things got busy/weird and I
left about a year or two ago...

I came to the realization a while ago that since getting into the Olympus
OM-D line, I've not used my Pentax gear for ages - almost a couple of
years, actually.


interesting Charles — i'm in almost exactly the same position — K-5 and a 
nice set of lenses (100 WR macro, 15/4, 35/2.8 macro …) idle for months; 
having a hard time deciding to completely let go…


i've been using an E-M1 with three main lenses - Panasonic 20/1.7, Olympus 
50/2.0 macro and Pentax-M 100/4 macro; that last keeps my foot in the door 
here — a fun lens at 200mm equivalent and with focus-peaking


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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

2017-01-06 Thread Mark Roberts

Brian Walters wrote:

>I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and
>competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the
>K-01, it wasn't what I wanted).

Tha K-01 can be had really cheap on eBay these days. You might want to
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It's been a week

2017-01-06 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Helping clean up more from wife's parent's estate. Lots of work.

Then my L4 started giving me fits. Driving is no fun.

Did find some of my old copies of Kilobaud Microcomputing from 80-82. Fun
reading. 

 

But alas ... The 50/1.2

Anyone interested in it?

Some room to negotiate.

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Re: Long time no see, and ramping up for an FS Friday (K5 and 16-50 for starters)

On Sat, Jan 7, 2017, at 01:33 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >I'm hanging on to my Pentax gear waiting for the mythical and
> >competitive Pentax mirrorless to appear (much as I liked the idea of the
> >K-01, it wasn't what I wanted).
> 
> Tha K-01 can be had really cheap on eBay these days. You might want to
> try one out. I thought I'd hate it and I've come to like it a lot.

I have been keeping a look out on Ebay.  I thought it might be fun to
pick up one for casual use but they don't come up often here and the
exchange rate & postage makes buying from the US more than I'm
comfortable with.  Without a viewfinder, I can't see me using one
regularly and I'm not sold on the concept of retaining the K mount
register distance.

For the moment, I'm keeping my foot in the door of Pentax mirrorless
with the Q.

Cheers

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