I am leaving Pentax because it limits me...
Before you flame on me, no I am not. I will stay with my loved white Kr, and maybe a K5 update later... But how many times I heard this from friends... countless. Most of the time the reason is: Pentax is not good for studio photography. I was not aware of Benjikan (or Benjamin Kanarek) until recently a friend of mine directed me to his page. (FYI: http://www.benjaminkanarek.com/ ) So I now always ask my friends when they say Pentax is not good enough for studio: You think his photographs are not good enough? You already reached his level and you feel it's not enough for you? Obviously... the answer is no :D But to be honest I had some hesitations sometimes as well... I love Sony's new system, for not having a blacked VF during the photos and most importantly, videos. But is it really that important? Well... no. But which other company offers you the possibility to try the astrophotography for a low price of £200ish? Or has a grip so comfortable that you don't really want to use a battery grip to make the use of the camera comfortable? But on the other end there are limits for sure. Not having most of the 3rd party companies support for P-TTL (YangNuo, Phottix...) is one of the main concerns, but apart from that... I am still in love with Pentax :) So, yes... Sony A55 and Nikon D5100 are really tempting for me giving a bit more options, but I believe my little Pentax Kr is a very good partner for my photography needs. Why did I write this? Well... I just had to tell you this and we read so many rants then why not a praise? :) Regards, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: welcome the pentax q (with sample photos)
But there are no more sample shots anymore. I saw them in the morning from my phone but it's not there anymore. Anyway probably it wasn't the Pentax Q shots as all the shots were 6 Megapixel only :) .t On Thu, 2011-06-23 at 13:11 -0400, Steven Desjardins wrote: Here it is: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA.HTM The key chain shots are very funny. On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:08 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: On Jun 22, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: Can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually intrigued by this. Cheers, Christine http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM It's a dead link this morning. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3721 - Release Date: 06/23/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Leslie
Hi, My friend, Leslie: http://15kb.posterous.com/leslie The picture was inspired by the works of Joel Grimes, I kinda tried to reproduce his style. Comments and critique welcomed! .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Regent's Park Waterfall
Hi List! I am living in London for more than 2 years now but I only got to the Regent's Park just now :) Luckily my Kr, my tripod and my welding glass filter was with me so I have a proof of me being at Regent's Park (finally). :D http://15kb.blogspot.com/2011/05/regents-park-waterfall.html Comments Critique as always, more than welcomed! Cheers, .t Ps.: The picture was taken with a Shade 11 Welding Glass with a shutter speed of 893 seconds. Ps.2: I have a slightly different version on Flickr... Bit warmer toned. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shame and Sorrow
Thanks for everyone for the comments. I am feeling a bit more confident :) But honestly these times I have days when I go to have a photowalk, coming home with 200 exposures but no pictures. I just can't find that little extra in them that satisfies my taste. It's like a midlife crisis :D About the title of this picture... Shame and Sorrow. When I saw this guy what came to my mind is how sad that anyone has to live like this (and there are people living with even worse conditions) and honestly I felt ashamed for 'our society'. So the title is more of my feelings I had when took the picture. Thanks again for the comments I really needed them. And I promise to give a try for a BW version ;) .t On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 18:53 +0300, Boris Liberman wrote: On 5/12/2011 22:01, Peter Zalabai wrote: Hi, From my latest Thames Path walk... http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5711189051/ Please be brutal with your critique as recently I feel I need a lot of feedback to be able to improve my photography... Yours, .t I am sorry, Peter, I just like this photograph, so I cannot really offer you any constructive critique. May be in time, if I get to review your recent work, I could notice something worth telling you. As it is, it is evidently processed, as it is unlikely that the light and color was the way it is presented, but it is fine. The subject matter is also just fine, if may be not absolutely original, but that's not to say that it is no good. So, it is all around good photograph in all respects, both technical and artistic. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Lesson learned...
Hi, Recently I've ordered a 55mm reverse adapter which arrived today. I wanted to give it a try so took the Zelektor, put the adapter on it's front and then put it on the Kr... Well... I mean I tried to put it on the Kr but the adapter didn't really want to turn to it's place. So decided to not force it to get in place and tried to take it off. But it got stuck so I had to use a pliers to remove it... After couple seconds and thousands of new gray hairs it got off and luckily the mount had no problems. But the lesson learned: always try the usability of an item (especially if it's a, made in China; b, costs less than a tenner; c, both) on my 2x teleconverter first... .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Shame and Sorrow - BW
Done! http://15kb.blogspot.com/2011/05/shame-and-sorrow-b.html Like Frank, I wouldn't mind seeing it in bw. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Testing K-r with Infrared.
What kind of modification will you do? Full spectrum or dedicated to IR? And how's the modded K10D serving you? Did you find any difficulties or disadvantages? Internal filters are reducing hotspot if I am correct, but what happens if you have a 1000nm filter on the lens and the 720nm internal filter? Does it still eliminates the hotspot? Sorry for having loads of questions but IR photography is something really interests me :) Unfortunately I only have one K-r and I want to keep the possibility to make normal pictures as well so with that I will go for clear glass filter. But I also have a K10D so that might be a dedicated IR machine as it has no Live View so composition would be only possible with hotshoe mounted Russian Turret Finder for RF cameras :) Cheers, .t On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 23:43 +0300, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Anyone tried IR photography with the K-5 / K-7 / K-x? Regards, .timber Nop, only a 720nm modified K10D. But if some cash falls on my head and its not enough for a 645D I will probably buy another K-5 and have it modified. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
How-to: Welding Glass and Color Balance
I've just made a little how-to for getting correct colors with a Green Tinted Welding Glass. I use a DIN11 one which gives me a 15 and 2/3 EV reduction (that's roughly ND52000). If you want to give it a try: http://15kb.blogspot.com/2011/05/welding-glass-and-white-balance.html Best regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Testing K-r with Infrared.
Hi, I just made a little test the other day, an unmodified (yet) Pentax K-r and the infrared photography. What I've found is the K-r has very strong IR filter (about 20EV) so both high iso handheld and composing the picture with Live View is impossible. Also using 'False color' IR filters, such as the Hoya R72 is out of question as the amount of visible red light will be too much. So the only option to try IR photography with the K-r was the B+W 093 (830nm) filter, which normally let's only the IR light go trough with a very very small amount of visible red. Well with the K-r that very very small amount becomes quite more so the 093 on the K-r acts as the R72 on a modded camera. I can't wait to get my hands on a 1000nm filter :) Usually with bright sunlight 30 seconds, f4 at ISO 400 did the trick and the worst case scenario is cloudy sky where ISO 1600 is needed. Normally ISO 1600 is not noisy but together with long exposure, the noise (which in case of Pentax it's more like a fine grain) is becoming visible. A few pictures can be found on my flickr stream ( http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5693966320/ ) if you want to see the results. Anyone tried IR photography with the K-5 / K-7 / K-x? Regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I've had three photos accepted into the PPG
Nice job Larry! And congratulations for the submissions! This reminds me that I should start submitting as well :D Regards, .t On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 23:58 -0700, Larry Colen wrote: I finally got the PPG sorted out, submitted a bunch of photos, then got busy and forgot to go back and check for a while. http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/larrycolen It's weird, it looked like it allowed me to submit a bunch, with several in the queue to be checked later, but it seems that only 10 were even judged. I am amused because I think that several of the declined photos are better and/or more interesting than the three that were accepted. It'll be interesting to see which ones get through. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-r and AA batteries.
Does anyone have experience powering the K-r from a set of AA batteries via the adaptor? I've terrible results with this setup and I would like to know if it's a user error or it's common. I use 2000mAh NiMH Duracell batteries and I've got them yesterday fully charged in the camera, and after I took about 70-80 pictures today they've got depleted... But it sounds quite awful that overnight in the camera + not even 100 pictures is what I can get from a set of 2000mAH batteries... Or shall I try Lithium ones? Does anyone has the same experience or is it only me? Regards, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-r and AA batteries.
TBH what I would like to see is the cheap chinese Pentax K-r battery shaped as the 4 AAs but with a capacity about 2x the normal K-r battery :) I am sure we will get that 'monster' soon :) .t On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 20:01 -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: The short answer is that Pentax digital bodies seems to be especially sensitive to cell voltage and will indicate low-bat way before the cells are actually depleted. Power-cycling the camera will get you more time, I've found. It could just be that the battery-level detection circuit design is fubar. But you can get batteries that exhibit less voltage droop before losing most of their charge. Try the newer 2450 mAH Energizers. Also try the ... and here I will reduce my voice to an almost inaudible whisper ... Sanyo Eneloops. Many here, including me, swear by them, though never out loud. I have no experience of the lithium rechargeables, but I'd love to hear reports. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Gary Numan in concert
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw This particular song was a HUGE hit in the U.S. back in about 1980. Or for the younger generations the remake by Fear Factory might be more familiar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lERqGULWxs Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Vaisakhi
Hi list, Unfortunately I forgot about today's Vaisakhi Parade and only catched the end of the parade... :( Anyway a few shots I've made (mostly with CZJ Sonnar 135mm). http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5676520963 Best regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO: My new toy: Zie Zelektor!
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 18:43 -0700, Larry Colen wrote: Very cool, and rather evil, the last thing I need right now is another silly project to distract me. Do you need to use a lens with an extra long registration distance? Nope. The lens I've used is a Tamron Adaptall lens, which is designed to 35mm. More info about Adaptall at http://www.adaptall-2.org/ But literally you can use any lens as long you are ready to sacrifice it for the greater good :) .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO: My new toy: Zie Zelektor!
Hi List, Since a while now I had a Tamron Adaptall SP f2.5 24mm (01BB) that I didn't really use. Lately the only thing I did with this lens is freelensing, but after 10-15 freelensing photos my sensor just got too dirty :D So I've decided to modify the lens into a permanent freelensing solution, something like the Lensbaby is. Took the lens and totally shaved off everything from it except what's the base of the lens (literally the metal parts around the glass parts) so I will have a bit more room to play with without any collision. Also took the Tamron Adaptall PK mount and removed all the parts except the mount itself. The two is linked together with some high precision super bending mechanics made out of extra high level special elastic material (*coughs* a piece of a bike inner tube) and voila, here's my own better-than-lensbaby super new lens system: Zie Zelektor 24mm! :) As we had a street party at Tottenham I took the lens for a walk and I just loved playing around with it. Mastering the use of it still needs LOADS of practice but I am already loving the results I've got. So here's the flickr set dedicated my new toy (including a picture of the Zelektor mounted on my Pentax K-r): http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/sets/72157626609950862/with/5670879686/ Comments and critiques are always welcomed! Best Regards, .timber Ps.: Since the tube is a bit longer than it has to be I can use it as a macro lens as well :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Panorama How To (with kittens :D)
Hi List, As some of you asked how to do Panoramas here's my little tutorial to start with: First of all you need: - A tripod with a head that can turn 360 degrees (full circle) around it's Horizontal axis. I don't really recommend the use of ballheads as they tend to move freely in other directions as well... My setup is: Giottos MT 9361 + MH 5001 - A wide angle lens. The KitLens is perfectly fine to start with (kittens are not) but later on you might want to get a Ultra Wide Angle lens, like the Sigma 10-20, Pentax DA 10-17 fisheye or the Samyang 8mm Fisheye. The wider the lens the less picture you need to take - makes life easier. Just an example: @18mm you need 12 pictures in each row (every 30 degrees), at least 3 rows + nadir and zenit. That equals 38 pictures. @8mm Fisheye you only need 1 row of 4 pictures and a Zenit and Nadir. That's 6 pictures. Zenit and Nadir is the all the way down and all the way up pictures. My setup is: Pentax DA L 18-55 kitlens for the Pentax K-r - A panoramic head attachment that allows you to rotate the camera with the rotation's center being exactly at the center of the front lens (called No Parallax Point). There are various options for this, most commonly the Nodal Ninja is used. If you just want to try Panorama photography, if it's your cup of tea or not, then I would advice to make your own version from a couple pounds. It won't be as precise as the Nodal Ninja and you might not be able to do interiors with it easily, but it wouldn't cost you 200+ GBP or $300+ ... I would say for very occasional Panorama works or for the learning process a DIY pano-head will do. I made mine based on Peter Loud's Nodal Samurai ( http://www.peterloud.co.uk/nodalsamurai/nodalsamurai.html ). My setup: DIY Pano-head :) So once you have all the setup together then find a good spot for the picture. To begin with panoramas I'd recommend large, open places first as the less space you have the more obvious the non-precision of the head will be. For example with my head and the kitlens doing interiors requires at least 2 more rows for the perfect results. What you need to create the panorama is enough pictures to have enough overlapping where the stiching software can blend the pictures. The more the overlapping the better the results will be. Sometimes the software does the job fully but sometimes you need to help it with giving control points manually. If you've done enough pictures with loads of overlapping the it won't be a problem. So I say spend a bit more time with the taking the pictures than spending hours to add control points or worst case scenario, abandon your project because the lack of overlaps. Fail to plan and you plan to fail. The software I use is PTGui for Windows. I found a similar program for Ubuntu, called Hugin, but it's just not that good as PTGui. Unfortunately PTGui is not free (unless you do warez... :P), but it has a demo version you can try which adds Watermarks... Using the PTGui is pretty simple. Load the pictures, let the software align them and create the panorama! :D Then when you render your panorama there are various options to make the panorama, the most common is to create a spheric panorama that you can use to create a Quicktime VR-Cube where you can look around, or the one I posted earlier is called Little Planet If you have questions feel free to ask :) but as I am a beginner on this field (made only 4-5 panos so far) I might not be able to go into deep technical details :) Happy Panoraming! :D .timber ps.: oh and the kittens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-adI7I_bYVc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: My own little World.
Hi list! Ok... Before I post the link a little intro :D So I wanted to do panoramas (360 ones) but I lack the fisheye lens and the Nodal Ninja to do so. Well for the lens it's not that big deal as the kitlens is almost wide enough :D you just have to make LOADS of pictures and pray for not missing a spot :D But the Nodal Ninja (or any other pano-head) is quite crucial as without that you can't really make 360 panos. As being a DIY guy I knew I can make one and luckily found a very good website on the web for DIY Pano Head, the guy calls it Nodal Samurai (just google it). Inspired by that I've created mine as well and yesterday I made my first test with it. Well... it's not the most precise one, it's not the most good looking one... but it does the job! :D So now next stop is to get a Samyang 8mm fisheye (which I always wanted... and this one seems just a bit better quality than the Peleng and it's still quite cheap). Ok, so long story short. Here's my own little world, made with kitlens and a really cheap solution for panoramic head :D http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/5650664057/ Comments are welcomed. Best regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Waiting for Charon
Bit off-topic since it was made with a Panasonic FZ50 :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3695284681/ Location is Wanstead Flats, London :) Regards, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Waiting for Charon
You're right :) My FZ50 has no hotfilter so it's highly IR sensitive. The filter I used is a Hoya R72, the so called fake colour IR filter. .timber David J Brooks wrote: No problem these days IR filter with this shot. Has that feel to it. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Happy Birthday My Fellow Pentaxian :)
I just noticed (facebook ftw) that one of us on the list has his birthday today (here in London it's 4th already :D). I wish you a happy birthday and a lot of 'pentaxed' years, Mr. McAllister ;) So what's your 2 other wish (I suppose K-7 is No.1 :D)? Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
78 rules of photography
http://gawno.com/2009/05/78-photography-rules/ No. 15 is s me :) .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT New logo, try #2
So far I got it will go for a website header. IMHO it is too 'high' for that. It takes too much space and the website's viewer has to scroll down way too much. My other suggestion is if you write www small caps then write .com too small caps or both all caps. Peter Ps.: Sorry for being an arse but I used to work as an editor for 6 years :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: The Watcher
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3348802155/ I was brave enough to take out the cam today :D Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Watcher
Not sure what bravery has to do with it, but that's an appealing photo. I am missing so many shots because I don't dare to make the photo. You know in Hungary people often went offensive when they saw me raising the camera... even if it wasn't pointed to them. It's hard for me to get used to people allowing you to make photos of them :D Probably they are not that paranoid :P Was the vignetting at the edges added in post? Yes. The frame is a little bit cropped, horizontally 'fixed', low saturation, high vibrance and clarity, some Split Toning and vignetting. All post process is made in Adobe Lightroom, since I have no Photoshop at the moment. Regards, Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Ad-Hoc PDML London meet
Well I am in London since last friday and I am happy to meet any Pentaxian so it sounds good to me :) But how about a photowalking and some street photography? :D (please no boring night landscapes like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3337415463/ cause I don't want to carry my tripod again :D) .timber +44 75 3143 6929 Ps.: If you speak British please get someone who can translate to English :D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - A Book and a Smile
A lovely shot, I really like it much. Very well captured the moment. I would like to do street photography too, but I am always afraid of what people will do if I point my lens toward them. Also I lack the knowledge of the laws in UK according to take a photograph of a person (without his/her permission). .timber Taken yesterday in Toronto's Kensington Market: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/book-and-smile.html Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Book review
Reading your letter, for a second I tought Cotty is Ken Rockwell, the Chuck Norris of Photography. :) .t Ps.: Do we really have to act as c***nians? I like Pentax because pentaxians are different... They all suck. Except that one photo by Cotty, which is the best photo ever taken by anyone anywhere ever. Baldingly yours, antiCotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Airport miniautre like :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/3334561655/ Took on the airport while waiting for my own WizzAir plane :) Any londonese who want to do some photowalking sometimes? :D .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Submission questions :D
I am thinking about to submit these 2 pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015929280/ http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/2976054486/ Do you think these will do? :) I don't know what and how others will choose for the submission, but from 2k8 this is my 2 favourite. BTW I am digging my mail archives but can't find the URL for the submission... Could you help me with the address? :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: DA 12-24 in action
Nice shot Paul. The DA 12-24 is one of my favourite lens. It's sharp from corner to corner at f4. This lens always has space in my photo-bag :) This lens is also good for 'portrait' shots even at 12mm (if used correctly). I've posted a portrait of my pentaxian friend earlier (her nickname is SilentOkami :P) and here's an other sample of her shot with DA 12-24 @ 12mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015094347/ and one at 24mm: http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/3015927916/ but what I really like about this lens is the spot light rendering on night shots. Here's an example: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785385 So if anyone is considering this lens or not... do not hesitate. :) Cheers, .t Here's a shot of a drag car passenger cabin. It's the Dodge Challenger factory SS car that I shot last month. It's at ISO400, f4.5, 1/750th and 12mm. The focus is on the steering wheel. I needed f4.5 to be able to light the black interior with the 540 and lightsphere diffuser. I needed 1/750th to keep the background from burning out. There's some Moire (sp?) patterning on the window net and the seat belt fabric, but I think that's a function of the lighting rather than the lens. This is the full frame. At 100% the seams on the steering wheel wrap are sharp. The lens has returned a lot of good results for me. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8335606size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I'm a grandad
Congratulations Bill! When you can share some pictures of the little lady with us! :) Cheers, .timber My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl. Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of what would have been my mother's 90th. Bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The man behind the Pentax is now in front of it :)
So if you didn't got from the title: Self-portrait:) http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2975863346/ Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Tilt adapter for Pentacon Six lenses... has arrived! :D
Hi list! It's me again with my newest little toy :D a Pentacon Six Tilt-rotator adapter. It was like 120 bucks but I am really happy to have it. I have some PSix lenses (CZJ 50/f4, 80/f2.8, 180/f2.8, 300/f4) and so far I only did a 'field-test' with the 80mm Biometar. Here are some shots made during my first photowalking day with the Tilted Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 80mm f2.8 lens on the Pentax K20D. All shots are only resized and framed. No photoshopping on any of the pictures. http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/2953222008/ (here in Hungary the Indian Summer is called Old Ladies' Summer, which is the title :D) http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/2952370619/ This one really has the plotting board feeling. http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/2953219208 I like the DOF on this picture. Only the 2 buildings I wanted are in focus, the rest is OOF. Check the frontal OOF lights having so interesting shape (instead of circle like as the back OOF ones). The Tilt adapter was rotated like 60 degrees CCW. http://flickr.com/photos/timbah/2953218698/ This one was made handheld with shutter speed as low as 1/4. No blur at 80mm. So my big kudos goes to the Pentax Engineer team for this awesome image stabilizing system! More on my flickr photostream :D Comments and critiques are welcome (here or under the flickr page :D) Cheers, .timber (the gadget freak pentaxian :D) Ps.: Since I have macro extension tube for Pentacon Six system the next thing I will try is doing macro with tilt lenses... while in normal photography the tilt system is used to reduce DOF in macro it can be used to increse DOF. Excited to try it out... :D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Wonders of Ebay :)
Only in England...: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1749217.ece You can never know... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
An interesting site...
I don't know if you know this site: http://www.leitax.com/index.html But I found it really interesting... Sharp Leica lens on Pentax K? Sounds really promising to me :) Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma 150mm macro on PK?
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/product/default.aspx?sku=1007376 Probably a mistake... or am I missing something? 150mm Macro is one of the very best lenses on the world... if it comes to Pentax I am 100% sure to grab one. But so far I know it doesn't comes to Pentax... Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PhotographyBlog: Pentax Interview, quite interesting (Samsung deal etc.)
Pentax would join Micro 4/3? But the question will there be MFT - PK adapter with possible AF with the built in motorized SDM lenses? :) .t Thibouille wrote: http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/pentax_and_samsung_partnership_not_perfect/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PENTAX K-m - Toy camera; or what?
http://www.pentax.jp/english/news/2008/200819_s.html ^^^ I think some may even call it toy camera by one of its capture modes but here are spec. for ones interested in product... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. What is KAF3 mount? O.o Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Leica kicking everyone's rear?
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/22/leica-debuts-s-system-37-megapixel-flagship-s2-camera/ Ouch. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)
I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)
I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: It's never too early to have a Pentax SLR... :)
Timber wrote: I was organizing my stuff and my younger daughter, Édua asked for her sister's Pentax ME :) Then she did what she saw from his father :) Raising the camera to her eyes :) She was really cute ;) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2870053501_e8f82f4c38_o.jpg Cheers, Timber Sorry for double send... my wireless connection tricks me sometimes . -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1
It seems to me however, that it is a nice attempt and that in a couple months this micro4/3 may indeed be a very interesting market segment. The whole M4/3 system is still walks in baby-shoes. In 1975 when Pentax created the Pentax K bayonett all of the older Pentax lenses (M42 Taks) was useable with limitations... Did anyone complain? :) .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: panasonic's new micro four/thirds camera: G1
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me however, that it is a nice attempt and that in a couple months this micro4/3 may indeed be a very interesting market segment. The whole M4/3 system is still walks in baby-shoes. In 1975 when Pentax created the Pentax K bayonett all of the older Pentax lenses (M42 Taks) was useable with limitations... Did anyone complain? :) Pentax Forum. Dave I mean back in 1975... :D Pentax Forum will always complain about something :D That's why we use Pentax... we want to get to perfection as close as possible :D But since we can't get to the total perfection we complain! No camera is perfect, but Pentax is pretty close :D :D :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Sára (it's Sarah in hungarian)
She's the dog of one of my co-worker and she's almost part of the office now :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2848214472/ Cheers, .t Ps.: She likes cookies very much :) that's how the pictures were made :) I was putting a cookie next to the lens and she got seduced by it :P -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Infrared K20D (anyone)?
Is it possible to use Pentax K20D for IR photography without replacement of the sensor filter glass. Thank you for your info. Possible, with extreme long shutter speeds even at f2.8. It has like -20 EV reduction. And the Live View is useless with IR sensors on. I think if you want to go IR with Pentax you need K200D or modding your camera (which I am planning with K10D) .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Infrared K20D (anyone)?
I've seen lots of Nikons and Canon dslrs on eBay that have been modified for just IR only. Rarely see Pentax dslrs. Jim A. The same applies for the unmodified cameras :) Tons of ***ons and just a few Pentax. Probably because Pentax users love their cameras and they keep them instead of getting rid of it :) .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coming camera(s) : for thow who know, would you buy it?
For those who know about the new camera (I mean the small low-end one ;) ), do you feel like buying it? For those who don't know about the new camera... would you share some information? :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coming camera(s) : for thow who know, would you buy it?
Why do K200D or K20D need a replacement? What Pentax _may_ need is something lower than K200D or higher than K20D. K200D Minus could be something like the Micro Four Thirds from Olympus. Ergo a K bayonetted, interchangeable compact camera :P Like a Micro K. K20D Plus could be FF camera There are rumours about Samsung developing a Optical Viewfinderless DSLR and also a FF sensor... .t Adam, who said the new camera wasn't replacing K200D? :p According to current informations it would (supposedly) replace or compliment it between K200D and K20D. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coming camera(s) : for thow who know, would you buy it?
Well the K200D could indeed receive an upgrade for a very good reason: the base camera is damn good (just a K10D with a couple features missing) but the buffer/fps really is a joke, espcieally the ridicullous buffer. Other than that the K200D is a very fine camera. But wouldn't users would be pissed off if half year after they bought a camera there is already a replacement? I am surely would be angry to Pentax if they announce a K20D Super already with 'fixed' flaws of the K20D (for example the crap Live View) .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Coming camera(s) : for thow who know, would you buy it?
I read a couple times already that in Eastern Europe, the K200D is selling like hot cakes. True :) Here the K200D is the best price / value machine most of us can get. Even if the price of the K200D is still high for most people... I think the ultra-low budget compacts (which have IQ like a phone-cam) are selling very well here too :) .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Focus-Test
http://www.zimbio.com/member/k10dbook/articles/1701411/PART+2+Autofocus+Adjustment+Pentax+K20D+Custom Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PDML Family album :)
I was thinking about we could make an album at pdml.net with our smiling faces :) Everyone who's on the list sends a photo of himself to the list(owner) so we can know each other at least from photo (since a big PDML 'live' meeting is quite hard to organize :P) What do you think? .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
If the files are kept around 200Kbyte then it wouldn't take too much space I think. But if needed I can host (at clancode.hu) the space for the pictures and PDML could link them from there. Rebekah wrote: sounds good :-D will it be stored at pdml.net? that could cost a pretty penny. Perhaps a free site with a link from pdml? guess I'll have to figure out how to take a picture of myself. any tips? rg2 On 9/2/08, Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking about we could make an album at pdml.net with our smiling faces :) Everyone who's on the list sends a photo of himself to the list(owner) so we can know each other at least from photo (since a big PDML 'live' meeting is quite hard to organize :P) What do you think? .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Bug macro with a 4.1f 05 AF CMS xatneP
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2822695074/ :) Comments welcomed! Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: The reason behind weather sealing :)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2823032764/ Yes, that's her Pentax K200D and she's in love with it :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Family album :)
Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: Timber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (since a big PDML 'live' meeting is quite hard to organize :P) Is it? I thought you'd all be coming to Cologne for Photokina anyway. Ralf Would love to... but the Games Convention at Leipzig took all my 'funds' :) .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tamron 70-200/2.8 soon available it seems (end september in Japan)
Already? :( I must get some money fast :) Anyone in need of a kidney or any other organs? :D .t Thibouille wrote: http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/tamron_launches_3_full_frame_lenses/ Thought it would be of some interest to some of you ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K10D hotfilter...
Got a reply from Hamburg/Pentax.de: The hotfilter is not interchangable.the CCD andd the filter is one part. . (but I don't give up :P) Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Getting familiar...
She's getting familiar with her new phone... and I am getting familiar with my new lens (PFA 50 f1.4) http://www.flickr.com/photos/timbah/2782649066/ CC welcomed :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: From now on I shall call myself The Great Destroyer...
This kind of thing makes me weary. Nothing any of you can do about it, I know, but I just wanted to vent. Does anybody else here ever feel like they're the only one who manages to have things break on them all the time? -Charles Computers, Audio, Photography - all seem to be against me at one time or another. You are not alone Charles. Joseph McAllister Pentaxian Same goes here. And the worst at all that there's noone else to blame just me :) Oh and I am a big Nine Inch Nails fan too :) The Great Destroyer is a good song (especially performed live :P) Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: From now on I shall call myself The Great Destroyer...
On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:21, Timber wrote: Oh and I am a big Nine Inch Nails fan too :) The Great Destroyer is a good song (especially performed live :P) Heh. I was unaware that NiN has a song by that title as well - I'll have to dig it up and give it a listen. There is an album by the group Low (a Minnesota band!) with a title of that name - which is what I *thought* I was referencing. It's probably a literary reference which goes way back as well. -Charles Youtube is always helpfull :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXVX2zzHxeg Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly
G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave I like it very much :) Was it PSed or the walls painted like this there? .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax gets Minoltalized?
http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080812/156393/ Should I worry? Does this means that Hoya might do the same with Pentax like Sony did with Minolta? I am not too good in this business-blah-blah. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What plans do you have for old digital SLRs?
When the K10D is retired it may end up being converted to IR. Exactly what I am trying to do. Just getting money to be able to pay the service. Also I was still unable to find the exact size of the K10D Hotfilter so I can get a replacement glass. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: New Olympus Micro Four Thirds announcement
This one? http://www.photokina-show.com/0466/pentax/digitalcameras/pentaxdigitalcameras/ .t I thought they dragged it out again much more recently. Adam Maas wrote: Pentax showed something similar a number of years ago, not at the last PMA. -Adam On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 10:33 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Pentax showed some prototypes of this concept at the last PMA show. I remember seeing pictures on one of the Digital Photography web sites anyway, though not 4:3 system. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Huh? An 'independent' statistic
http://www.jdpower.com/electronics/ratings/digital-camera-ratings/dslr It made me LOL. Surely not 'sponsored' by Canon... .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Where to find Polaroid stuff (in EU if possible) ??
Probably somewhere in East Europe :D I bet we (in Hungary) still have shops selling Polaroid film. I will take a look when I have a little time. .t My wife just got the idea of using a Polaroid (good timing isn't it?). I agree it might be fun after all and involve quite a bit of nostalgia so why not. However, I owuld like to know where I could get films at reasonable prices. I ofund a couple cheap cameras on Ebay, so camera should not be that hard to find. Film seems to be sold at awful price on Ebay seems Pola announced they were dropping the whole thing. Thank you. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: New Olympus Micro Four Thirds announcement
Probably most of you heard about the new Micro Four Thirds system. Long story short: Oly/Pana is working on an interchangeable compact camera :D I believe this will bring a 'revolution' to low-price segment of photography by creating a new 'category', the interchangeable compacts (kicking bridge category in the rear) or it will fail and will be just a bad experiment. What do you think? Will it influence the DSLR market anyhow? .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K10D Hotfilter info needed.
Hi List! Could anyone tell me the dimensions of the Pentax K10D Hotfilter (also known as UV/IR Cut Filter). I am planning to replace it with clean glass to make an UV/IR ready DSLR from my K10D (since I am not satisfied with the quality of my modified Panasonic FZ50 UV-IR cam). Does anyone has any kind of experience with this? Or does anyone knows where I could find a service manual for it? Or any help where should I search for information about it (I tried google already :D)? Thanks, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA 17-70 f4 pics
I hope it wasn't posted here yet :D http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/lens_review/2008/07/18/8861.html Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: 645 format 50 Mpix from Hassie
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0807/08070901Hasselblad.asp Pentax 645D where are you? :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for modding... .t Oly E-420 E-520, Canon Rebel XS, Sony A300. Oly Canon have sensor-based live view, Sony has second-sensor live view and a flip-up LCD. All cheaper than the K200D. I would like to stick to Pentax (so AF and all other stuff will be available). Maybe EOS 1000D, since I've PK-EF adapter :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Not much after PMA there was a 'rumour' that german Pentax fan forum users met the german Pentax guys to test the K20D and they said there will be two new Pentax cams at Photokina, one with 3 digits and one with 1 digits. So K2D (since K1D existed as a prototype) is very probable and I hope the 3 digit one is the 645D (remember PMA? There was a hint about 645D). I believe the K2D will use the new Full Frame Samsung CMOS and hopefully not targeted to be a competitor to the Pro (Canon EOS 1D MarkIV/Nikon D3) level but the EOS 5D/D700. K1000D low budget cam? I don't really think that would be necessary. The K200D is very well placed in the budget category (it's cheap enough but with only a few compromises need to made). A few bucks cheaper cam would make no sense at all to me (like Canon EOS 1000D...) since so far Pentax seemed to me to target quality over marketing features. An entry-level MF camera would be a big hit and nowadays the technology is ready for a cheaper production. If Pentax could manage to sell it around a bit higher than the EOS 1Ds MarkIV (approx 10K$) then it could easily take place next to the Pro Level DSLRs of Canon and Nikon. Lens are already available for the 645 system... So let's hope :D Also at http://www.pentaximaging.com/purchase/find_a_store you can still see the product category: digital medium format. Cheers, .t Please don't tell me you don't care, subject is clear so if you don't want to know or discuss anything, don't read ! * BEGIN RUMOUR NEWS * In the current state of things (if that can be said for rumours), Pentax is beleived to introduce at least one new camera around Photokina, possibly two. There're a no details about this/these camera(s) but it should be fairly easy to speculate if anyone wants to. * if one camera - budget camera (e.g. K1000D) or high end (K1D/K5D)... * if two camera, seems clear it would be those two except if Pentax feels they need to upgrade K200D or K20D but it seems doubtful to me. * END RUMOUR NEWS * One usualy good source has confirmed that at least one camera was coming, without giving any detail (NDA as usual). At least two Pentax distributors have indeed confirmed to a couple users that the 60-250 wouldn't be there before Photokina :( :( That's it (much isn't it?) you can get back to your usual stuff. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Rumours, rumours...
Pentax badly needs a competitive budget camera, every other maker has a better option right now (either less money or more features performance AND less money). What I would like to see is a budget camera with Live View :D So it would make a great UV/IR Cam :P The Pentax K20D is just a bit pricey for modding... .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Something unexpected :D
I was at a zoo-like place with my younger daughter, Édua. She loves horses (and donkeys too... she just can't different them :D) and I think she surprised everyone around her with this: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2645706662_f9fc295c12_o.jpg K20D, DA 12-24 3 @ 24mm, f4, ISO 200, 1/2500 Even the donkey seems to be surprised! :D Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Finally a REVIEW :D
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/ Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Finally a REVIEW :D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentaxk20d/ Did the three of you rent an apartment together, or what? ;) Me, the Pentax K20D... and who's the third? :D I think I am missing a point here... O.o .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Just a preview?
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PentaxK20D/ C'mon... K20D is out since a while now and all we get is a preview? :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Free PS book for 9 days
http://photoshop.aws.sitepoint.com/ (Hope it wasn't linked yet :P) .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOx4: My trip at Miskolc :D
Hi list! I was at Miskolc (a hungarian town) to meet some guys from FotoRace (a hungarian photosharing site) and here are a few shots from the trip: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483432 This waterfall is near Miskolc, at Lillafured. Quite famous in Hungary. http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483425 We rented a boat :D It was fun http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483426 It's a bug's life :D He's a damn good fotographer... I am so jelaous of his talent! :P http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/97483427 A little play with DOF. There are more in the galery, feel free to browse :D CC always welcomed :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: smc PENTAX-FA 50mm F1.4 last shots with K100D Super
What surprises me is the line: price of the lense (most expensive standard prime in its class, besides Zeiss of course) Are we talking about the Pentax SMC FA 50mm f1.4? That's the cheapest in it's class (Nikon's being close). FYI the prices (in GBP... source: Ebay.co.uk): Canon 50mm f1.4 - ~165 pounds Nikon 50mm f1.4 - ~135 pounds Pentax 50mm f1.4 - ~130 pounds Canon 50mm f1.8 - ~60 pounds Nikon 50mm f1.8 - ~50 pounds The only thing Pentax is 'missing' is an 50mm f1.8 lens... but the price of the f1.4/50mm is fairly low IMHO. And I had the Canon f1.8 50mm in my hands... cheap and plastic. I really disliked that lens. A friend of mine sold his because it was extremely soft at f1.8, yet I heard no real complains about the FA f1.4/50mm. The two reason I am not considering to buy this lens is: my Porst 55mm/f1.2 MF lens and my dream to get my hands on an FA 77mm f1.8 :D The FA77's Bokeh... is a dreeeaaam :D .t http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20080516134346 ^^^ I'd lusted after this lense for over a year but something else always came in. Now, knowing K20D CMOS sensor reads diagonal light of FA lenses I'd decided to buy this 1.4 fast prime and here goes few samples, probably just emphasizing on its beautiful bokeh. FA 50mm is kinda soft full open, with few pixel wide soft cast but it's gone by f/2.0 and lense is sharpest at f/5.6 - 8.0. Light is very well controlled and level of aberrations is insignificant. Now I found my new favorite lense. Shame it took ages to finally find it. Perhaps expectancy of FF pentax body in December 2008 / January 2009 had contributed a bit to my decision to purchase full frame lense here. Your comments are welcome, as always. Roman. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: CanOFF EOS 450D Iso Test
I am a cinema fan too. I still have to read reviews about the movies to see if does it worths to pay the price of the ticket. And about cameras? I can't afford to buy a camera or a lens that I am not satisfied. I have to think 100 times and read 100 reviews about the 2 or 3 lens that comes into my interest. I simply can't take the risk to choose the wrong one. So I need to rely on other's impressions... that's why these reviews are a must. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: CanOFF EOS 450D Iso Test
http://www.fotovilag.hu/teszt/canon/Canon-450D/canon450d-iso.htm Kinda sucks above ISO 400. (the page is in hungarian but the pictures are universal :D) Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
DA* 300 f4 and BOKEH
Hi List! Does anyone has experience with the DA*300/f4? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036thread=27840420 Is the bokeh really this ugly with the lens? Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
Thank you all for your feedbacks! I bought the Pentax 12-24 f4 one... and already in love with the lens :D I think I will have to buy a new cam for the other lenses because I am not willing to take it off from the camera! :D :D :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESOx5+1: My new toy!
Hi list! This is a few image with the Pentax DA 12-24 f4: 2 HDRs: http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96784496 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96784562 And 3 almost totally unmodified picture (RAW shots + Lightroom + resize + framing): http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96784729 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785354 http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785385 As you can see, I am really satisfied with this lens. Superb color, superb sharpness, superb everything. :D Oh and it survived the first raining already :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/96785766 Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Weather Sealing (was Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24)
To me it suggests that the whole weather sealing thing may be a bit of a sales gimmick. Cheers, Dave On lens? I think yes. On body? Sure not :D I've used K10D/K20D in rain, snow, dust etc. Once I was with a group of photographers in a big snowfall. Line up was: 5 Canon EOS 350D/400D, 1 Nikon D50, 1 Pentax K10D. 2 of the 5 Canons ended up 'acting strangely', 2 guys had a home made camera-umbrella for their Canons which was mounting in the flash shoe :D, the Nikon guy prefered to keep his cam in bag, I was shooting with old manual lenses on... and no problems at all :D I really love Pentax' weather sealing. Even with lens from 70's it keeps my camera safe in almost all kind of weather. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
I dare you to test that hypothesis on your own gear! I know I wouldn't submit non-sealed equipment to what I've put my K10D and 16-50/2.8 through! (With the ist-D and non-sealed lenses I at least tried to protect my gear in the rain, with the K10D and 16-50 I just let it all hang out.) Use russian lenses :D I keep my K20D with Helios M44-6 off from rain for only one reason: the My little pony sticker on the K20D could get too wet and might get off the cam (again)! :P But other than that... the K20D+Old MF lenses survived heavy raining many times. Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Sigma 10-20 vs Pentax 12-24
Hi list! I am planning to buy a WIDE angle lens. I am hesitating between the Sigma 10-20 and the Pentax 12-24 (maybe Pentax 10-17 Fisheye) As the price the Pentax 12-24 is almost 2 times as the Sigma 10-20 but as I read the reviews both are good lens. Actually I am wondering if the Pentax one worths it's price compared to the Sigma one or should I go for the Sigma? Is there any noticeable IQ or CA advantage to the Pentax? Some says the Sigma becomes best if stopped down... but I would like to have a lens which is good at wide open too. So any advice? Is the Pentax that much better than the Sigma as the price shows or not? :D Thanks, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Creative Thinking
I like this too. Really nice bokeh. But what's the thing about the skull and crossed bones on the lens?!? Jostein That's the same as the Hello Kitty sticker on my K20D :D Total Pimpage! :D .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Creative Thinking
Szefi is a very good photographer (you can find her pictures on flickr) and we visited some friends at Sopron. On the way home I equipped my Porst f1.2/55mm and made a few shots with and of her :D The only thing I hate in her is that she doesn't want to change to Pentax :D http://www.pbase.com/timbercode/image/95508469 I think if the modell knows about photography then the photographer has a very easy job :D Cheers, .timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
OT: Great Photographers on the Internet
http://theonlinephotographer.blogspot.com/2006/06/great-photographers-on-internet.html I really laughed a lot on this :D Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Waiting for the light to come...
Hi list! http://timber.clancode.hu/miau/vilagossagff.jpg or in color: http://timber.clancode.hu/miau/vilagossag.jpg K20D, SMC 28-200, ISO200, f8, 1/160 +/- 2EV I don't know what, but something is missing from this picture to me. Any ideas how to improve it? Cheers, .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Info about Katz Eye Focusing Screens
The metering and AF would never be affected by focusing screens, since it's done 'behind the mirror'. Cheers, Timber It seems, putting a DS/Katzeye scrren in a K10D (and K20D I suppose, I do not expect any change there) would cure (at least up to a certain point) the metering problems with K/M lenses and provide a situation comparable to D/DS etc bodies. It also provides microprism if so you chose but it might as well degrade the metering performance with A/F/FA/DA lenses. Tough choice IMO... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Info about Katz Eye Focusing Screens
Hi List! I would like to ask if any of you have any experience with the Katz Eye Focusing Screens on K10D (or K20D)? I've replaced my focusing screen with a split-prism one (made in China) and the screen is a little darker. But focusing with manual focus lens are a bit easier (and gives back a little more of the Praktica-feeling :P)... I wonder if Katz Eye screens are so good as expensive they are... Cheers, Timber -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Superman, the Pentax K20D, and 8 FPS?
let's hope we will have a new firmware soon :D What I don't understand: With K20D it became clear that DSLRs can make cont. shots without having to flip the mirror for every single shot. Why can't we have a continuous shooting mode like this but not with 1.2 Mpix? .t Roman Melihhov wrote: http://daviddoctorrose.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/superman-the-pentax-k20d-and-a-simple-idea/ Did I miss something? To my knowledge K20 does 3 FPS and low res 21FPS in burst mode. Where did this Pentax ad campaign message came from? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: help needed for new pentax lens website
Yeah! Chuck Norris counted to infinity. Twice. :D If you add the M42 lens then you should also add the Pentacon Six and Pentax 67 and 645 lens too. There are adapters for 645 made by Pentax, and Pentacon Six lenses are very common to be mounted on any 35mm cam. .t There are an infinite number countable infinities, of course 8) On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 18:50:09 -0400, John Francis wrote How many countable infinities are there? On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 05:28:24PM -0400, Steve Desjardins wrote: I've always liked the countable infinities. The uncountable ones seem so passe. Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/08 5:11 PM Steve Desjardins wrote: Sure, according to the Mathematicians. And they're almost as unhelpful as the philosophers. Steve the philosophy major Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4/3/2008 11:53 AM anywhere close to infinity is it possible for anything to be close to infinity? Any philosophers out there? Which infinity? The infinity of natural numbers? The infinity of real numbers? The infinity of human stupidity? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. !SIG:47f5482555067318414559! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- - The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. --- - John Whittingham Technician The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
