RE: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :)
Bill, Post it here and I might drive over from Chicago. Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Bill Sawyer wsaw...@twmi.rr.com wrote: That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would try to be there! My schedule: this weekend is out (Easter). All of next week and the weekend of Apr 30 are ok. Meg and I will be going to Whitefish Point and vicinity May 2-4, so that period is out for me. Weekend of May 7 could be ok. Footnote: sometime in the next few weeks I need to do a round-trip to KC. Could be next week, could be right after we get back from Whitefish Point, could be a bit later. If there were a firm date for a Michigan (+ Chicago etc.) gathering, I should be able to work around that. 2nd footnote: my brother is in the Cleveland vicinity. If we head to NW Ohio, I may be able to get him to join us with his new K-5 . . . stan On Apr 22, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Bill Sawyer wrote: That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I'm in. Given a choice of dates enough advance notice I could even make it. Prefer something domestic as opposed to Pelee. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bill Sawyer wsaw...@twmi.rr.com Subject: RE: Michigan PDML Was: I really hate this guy :) That brings up an idea - anyone interested in a trip to Point Pelee or the Crane Creek/Magee Marsh/Ottawa Wildlife Refuge birding area in Ohio? The peak of the migration is starting now. Both places will get crowded, but at least Crane Creek avoids returning through US Customs. It's been awhile since we've made such a trip. Bill Sawyer -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:25 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote: There are several of the guy's imagery that look HDR to me. Not the overblown kind of HDR that passes for HDR these days, but HDR as it is supposed to be done. I'm not looking at the page right now, but the Golden Gate bridge photo is the most obvious HDR to me. The chain in the foreground is clearly lit by a strobe. I think it is more than a little bit deceptive for him not to explain some of that. A photograph should speak for itself. While we sometimes offer explanations here, that's for discussion and enlightenment. It's certainly not a mandate and, IMO, it's inappropriate in some venues. BTW, I think it's much more likely that he employed gradient filters than HDR. But either is fine with me. Again, no explanation required. The artist's tools are his own. Paul Makes one think the 645D is capable of doing what he shows right out of the camera. It is more a testament to his post-processing skills than 40 megapixels (at least as far as web resolution images is concerned). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I would agree with you, Paul, but that is not the context of the discussion (in the PF thread). It is not simply a display of a photographer's imagery. It is done in the context where it is implied that This is what the 645D can produce for you (that a lesser camera cannot). If the 645D is only a part of the story in that production, then it is a bit misleading. You may get the impression that the 645D has a dynamic range greater than what it has, if you are judging it on the basis of HDR images that are not labeled as such, on the web. I would love to see the same scene shot at the same ISO with the 645D and the K-5 and processed with exactly the same workflow, to be able to see the differences between the two images. I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote: There are several of the guy's imagery that look HDR to me. Not the overblown kind of HDR that passes for HDR these days, but HDR as it is supposed to be done. I'm not looking at the page right now, but the Golden Gate bridge photo is the most obvious HDR to me. The chain in the foreground is clearly lit by a strobe. I think it is more than a little bit deceptive for him not to explain some of that. A photograph should speak for itself. While we sometimes offer explanations here, that's for discussion and enlightenment. It's certainly not a mandate and, IMO, it's inappropriate in some venues. BTW, I think it's much more likely that he employed gradient filters than HDR. But either is fine with me. Again, no explanation required. The artist's tools are his own. Paul Makes one think the 645D is capable of doing what he shows right out of the camera. It is more a testament to his post-processing skills than 40 megapixels (at least as far as web resolution images is concerned). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. I suspect your suspicion to be misguided. Based on humble experience. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stan, Spring was coming in Kansas, but needs an extra 2-3 weeks to get to Michigan. We just did a week in St. Augustine, Florida and that helps a lot. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant stan On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Stan, believe it or not, I've had at least two situations when the sun was between dark clouds close to the horizon, but locally there were no clouds over the head, and hence it was much brighter. I am not claiming that photographer didn't manipulate[*] the photos. It's just that such a light situation can occur naturally as well. [*] - I agree with Paul Stenquist on this issue - as he replied to you in this thread. Igor Tue Apr 19 20:00:10 CDT 2011 Stan Halpin wrote: ... Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Would you care to elaborate, or are you always such a tease? : ) On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. I suspect your suspicion to be misguided. Based on humble experience. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really, Jostein? I was also pretty convinced that the main reason one would get a 645D was for large-format prints. I've seen your pictures and they're incredibly beautiful, but for on-screen presentation, I don't think I saw anything that couldn't be captured with a K-5. I'd like to hear your opinion as someone with hands-on experience. -Tim On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. I suspect your suspicion to be misguided. Based on humble experience. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh, c'mon Darren. Who's a tease who goes around suspecting things based on web images? :-) 2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Would you care to elaborate, or are you always such a tease? : ) On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:00 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. I suspect your suspicion to be misguided. Based on humble experience. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:29 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, c'mon Darren. Who's a tease who goes around suspecting things based on web images? :-) Heh. Well, the photog has answered some of my questions on Page 4 of the discussion. Uses gradient filters and focus stacking a lot, apparently. I've heard of using focus stacking for macro work, but have never thought of it for landscape photography. Interesting stuff, that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are many reasons. At least a couple of them has to do with the optics in the 645 system. The sensor is not alone. :-) For example at Svalbard I brought my K-7 with a DA*300/4 in addition to the 645 system, and 100% comparisons of shots with the DA*300/4 and the 645A*300/4 showed me there's more information in the 645D recording at the pixel level. I believe the sensor design (eg. lack of anti-aliasing filter) contributes to the perceived sharpness too. Either way, when I crop out 1000x1000 pixels from a 645D file and a K-7 file, obtained with equivalent focal lengths, I'm left with more detail in the 645D shot. And I used to think the DA*300/4 was pretty good. I do not own the K-5. Jostein 2011/4/21 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: Really, Jostein? I was also pretty convinced that the main reason one would get a 645D was for large-format prints. I've seen your pictures and they're incredibly beautiful, but for on-screen presentation, I don't think I saw anything that couldn't be captured with a K-5. I'd like to hear your opinion as someone with hands-on experience. -Tim On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:00 AM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/21 Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: I suspect that, like the film cameras of old, you don't really see a big advantage for the 645D until you make a print of a certain size, when the 645D's 40MP images shine over a lesser MP image. I suspect your suspicion to be misguided. Based on humble experience. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That is a good point. Sometimes even the obvious eludes me. : ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are many reasons. At least a couple of them has to do with the optics in the 645 system. The sensor is not alone. :-) For example at Svalbard I brought my K-7 with a DA*300/4 in addition to the 645 system, and 100% comparisons of shots with the DA*300/4 and the 645A*300/4 showed me there's more information in the 645D recording at the pixel level. I believe the sensor design (eg. lack of anti-aliasing filter) contributes to the perceived sharpness too. Either way, when I crop out 1000x1000 pixels from a 645D file and a K-7 file, obtained with equivalent focal lengths, I'm left with more detail in the 645D shot. And I used to think the DA*300/4 was pretty good. I do not own the K-5. Jostein I wonder. It's a CCD sensor instead of a CMOS. I think that's why I liked the direct jpg quality of my *istDS above the K-x. There's a crispness to it, at least to my eyes. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So photography is just like real estate -- Location, Location, Location. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: I really hate this guy 'smiley face' From: Bob Sullivan Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. Might cost you or me $10K for travel, but his profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Almost all of those beautiful, exotic locations are practically in his back yard. I Googled the locations from the captions. Most of them seemed to be within 20 - 50 miles. Yosemite is 180 some miles away, and the farthest point I noticed he'd traveled was Page AZ. That's less than 1000 miles. If you already knew your locations, you could do that on a 3 day weekend from the SF Bay area. If he's willing to start early and stay late, he could get most of what he's got as a dedicated weekend shooter and not spend more than a couple nights away from home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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No. They just require being there getting up 0 2 Early. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I really hate this guy 'smiley face' John, Morning or sunset shots are mostly what I see. This means maybe one shot to post per day, and that's for the close by locations! I saw Zion NP in Utah, Arizona, Yosemite, the Golden Gate Bridge from below at night - all of those shots are time eaters to get right. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. Might cost you or me $10K for travel, but his profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Almost all of those beautiful, exotic locations are practically in his back yard. I Googled the locations from the captions. Most of them seemed to be within 20 - 50 miles. Yosemite is 180 some miles away, and the farthest point I noticed he'd traveled was Page AZ. That's less than 1000 miles. If you already knew your locations, you could do that on a 3 day weekend from the SF Bay area. If he's willing to start early and stay late, he could get most of what he's got as a dedicated weekend shooter and not spend more than a couple nights away from home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I really hate this guy 'smiley face' A grad student? When I was grad student my biggest investment was groceries. (Come to think of it, that was still true when I was an assistant professor.) The 645D is a lot of scratch on a grad student's salary. Yeah, but what about his daddy? On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann His profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Isn't there some kind of technical college located there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I agree with Paul, the image shold stand on its own. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) On Apr 20, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Darren Addy wrote: There are several of the guy's imagery that look HDR to me. Not the overblown kind of HDR that passes for HDR these days, but HDR as it is supposed to be done. I'm not looking at the page right now, but the Golden Gate bridge photo is the most obvious HDR to me. The chain in the foreground is clearly lit by a strobe. I think it is more than a little bit deceptive for him not to explain some of that. A photograph should speak for itself. While we sometimes offer explanations here, that's for discussion and enlightenment. It's certainly not a mandate and, IMO, it's inappropriate in some venues. BTW, I think it's much more likely that he employed gradient filters than HDR. But either is fine with me. Again, no explanation required. The artist's tools are his own. Paul Makes one think the 645D is capable of doing what he shows right out of the camera. It is more a testament to his post-processing skills than 40 megapixels (at least as far as web resolution images is concerned). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If the dandelions are out, it's spring. Everything else comes later. :-) On Apr 20, 2011, at 18:15 , Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant stan -- It's not that life is too short, it's that you're dead for so long.. — Anon Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 19/4/11, Krisjanis Linkevics, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/ 139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html He gets about! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/19 Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html So do I, Kris. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you look at the seascapes where the horizon is broken by foreground (eg. #3), you can see how the foreground gets progressively darker upwards. This guy is making extensive use of gradient gray filters. But quite successfully I'd say. :-) One image I really like for its technical quality is the one from Pfeiffer Beach with the sun peering through the hole in the rock. Metering is easy enough to compensate, but the lack of reflections and blooming is humbling. Jostein 2011/4/20 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: There were a few of these that I quite like. And there were many that almost made me want to gag. E.g., the 1st, 2nd, 3rd . . . Pretty much any of them with the sun as an element in the photo. Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. The shots that didn't involve such gimmickry were quite nice. It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/19 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: So, he complains about DOF issues, then provides these images with these astounding laws-of-physics-defying insane depth-of-field... wondering what he would think of as *good* DOF? -T He says you might want to consider focus stacking. He's right, for some situations. It's inherent in the larger format. His examples doesn't require it, though. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What's focus stacking? -Tim On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:30 PM, AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/19 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: So, he complains about DOF issues, then provides these images with these astounding laws-of-physics-defying insane depth-of-field... wondering what he would think of as *good* DOF? -T He says you might want to consider focus stacking. He's right, for some situations. It's inherent in the larger format. His examples doesn't require it, though. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What's focus stacking? -Tim That's making a bunch of images focused at different distances and then combining them either by hand or with special software like Helicon Focus. Especially useful for those deep DOF macro shots. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html You hate him? Judging by the half dozen shot he posted at places I've bicycled to from my house, he lives in my neighborhood and gets those shots. Walt, how come you didn't get any shots like those at Bonny Doon or Davenport beaches when we went? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html You hate him? Judging by the half dozen shot he posted at places I've bicycled to from my house, he lives in my neighborhood and gets those shots. Never mind, I just looked at his profile, he lives in Palo Alto. Godfrey and Sasha, you're closest to him, you could you drop by his house and kneecap him for me? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/20 Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com: What's focus stacking? -Tim When you can't get enough DOF with one shot, you can take more shots with different focus plane, and stack them together in software, using only the parts in focus from each exposure. The technique originated with photomicroscopy, I think, and is very useful for ordinary macro too. It is usually achieved by moving the subject rather than the camera. With landscapes it's different of course... :-) Here's a little videoclip from a guy who made a contraption for moving a macro subject in controlled steps. A true DIY project with parts scavenged from a CD-ROM player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeXjpZpaZns Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/20 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: Godfrey and Sasha, you're closest to him, you could you drop by his house and kneecap him for me? Break his shutter finger too, while you're at it. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/20 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: With landscapes it's different of course... :-) Sorry, forgot something there. I believe that when shifting the focus of a lens, one _might_ also change the magnification, distortion, etc. depending on the lens design. So stacking shots may be more tricky than in the case of macro. But for landscapes you can still get a very long way by calculating the total DOF and focus manually. Besides, I get the impression that this guy use wide-angle lenses (a 35mm on 645D = a 18mm on APS-C). Assuming that's what he used for the deep perspective shots I believe f/11 will give him enough DOF for any of them. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I notice that the text on Pentax Forums does not wrap to the window width. Even with my browser maximized, I still have to scroll horizontally to read his comments. Makes it hard for me to figure out. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With great megapixels comes great responsibility. Oh, MARK . . . On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Collin Brendemuehl coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote: It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan Is this Stan Halpin or Stan Lee? With great megapixels comes great responsibility. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah, Larry, I was raised in the Northeast. Kneecap him makes me feel so nostalgic. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:57 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 19, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 19, 2011, at 1:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html You hate him? Judging by the half dozen shot he posted at places I've bicycled to from my house, he lives in my neighborhood and gets those shots. Never mind, I just looked at his profile, he lives in Palo Alto. Godfrey and Sasha, you're closest to him, you could you drop by his house and kneecap him for me? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think the mental process becomes all the time and effort I take to make good photos and if I only had a 645D to record the image at the end. . . Unless I suddenly went back to school and became an orthodontist, however, it's no the kind of money I can really justify. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: (De-lurking for another blather) I don't have any saliva left in my mouth, so I can't drool over the photos any more. Geminee! Is that all I need to be a good photographer? Just another camera? (Cloaking once again, Galloway, Constant Lurker, occasional wise-guy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 11-04-20 6:02 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/4/20 AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com: With landscapes it's different of course... :-) Sorry, forgot something there. I believe that when shifting the focus of a lens, one _might_ also change the magnification, distortion, etc. depending on the lens design. So stacking shots may be more tricky than in the case of macro. But for landscapes you can still get a very long way by calculating the total DOF and focus manually. Besides, I get the impression that this guy use wide-angle lenses (a 35mm on 645D = a 18mm on APS-C). Assuming that's what he used for the deep perspective shots I believe f/11 will give him enough DOF for any of them. Jostein Here's a cake landscape :-) that I focus-stacked (in an attempt) to get complete front-to-back focus ... http://goo.gl/YBbBg This was done from 3 shots through a DA* 50-135 @ 135 at f/8 on my K20D. The cake was lit with an AF-540FGZ on wireless in an 18 softbox. (I used a 2nd 540 to blow out the wall behind the cake.) Despite being f/8, the DoF was only about 25% of the depth of the cake. I manually focused to three planes: front, middle and rear. In hindsight I should have done 4 or 5 shots as you can see that the surface between the middle and rear is in soft focus. These shots were pulled into PS as one image with 3 layers. I ran Auto-Align Layers then Auto-Blend Layers to get the most in-focus parts of each layer. Auto-Align Layers takes care of the slight differences in size due to focus breathing, etc. Luckily the DA* 50-135 doesn't seem to suffer much from that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice cake, Bruce. What was your working distance on this one? ... And the PDML enablement gremlins has charged again. While Bruce wrote the below, I was out buying this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554343-REG/Manfrotto_454_454_Micrometric_Positioning_Sliding.html Though not at BH... :-) Jostein 2011/4/20 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Here's a cake landscape :-) that I focus-stacked (in an attempt) to get complete front-to-back focus ... http://goo.gl/YBbBg This was done from 3 shots through a DA* 50-135 @ 135 at f/8 on my K20D. The cake was lit with an AF-540FGZ on wireless in an 18 softbox. (I used a 2nd 540 to blow out the wall behind the cake.) Despite being f/8, the DoF was only about 25% of the depth of the cake. I manually focused to three planes: front, middle and rear. In hindsight I should have done 4 or 5 shots as you can see that the surface between the middle and rear is in soft focus. These shots were pulled into PS as one image with 3 layers. I ran Auto-Align Layers then Auto-Blend Layers to get the most in-focus parts of each layer. Auto-Align Layers takes care of the slight differences in size due to focus breathing, etc. Luckily the DA* 50-135 doesn't seem to suffer much from that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Jostein. Plus, I was able to take my cake and eat it too! (And it was delicious.) As I recall I was about 3-4 feet away. I couldn't have been too far because my office/studio isn't very wide. -bmw On 11-04-20 9:28 AM, AlunFoto wrote: Nice cake, Bruce. What was your working distance on this one? ... And the PDML enablement gremlins has charged again. While Bruce wrote the below, I was out buying this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/554343-REG/Manfrotto_454_454_Micrometric_Positioning_Sliding.html Though not at BH... :-) Jostein 2011/4/20 Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com: Here's a cake landscape :-) that I focus-stacked (in an attempt) to get complete front-to-back focus ... http://goo.gl/YBbBg This was done from 3 shots through a DA* 50-135 @ 135 at f/8 on my K20D. The cake was lit with an AF-540FGZ on wireless in an 18 softbox. (I used a 2nd 540 to blow out the wall behind the cake.) Despite being f/8, the DoF was only about 25% of the depth of the cake. I manually focused to three planes: front, middle and rear. In hindsight I should have done 4 or 5 shots as you can see that the surface between the middle and rear is in soft focus. These shots were pulled into PS as one image with 3 layers. I ran Auto-Align Layers then Auto-Blend Layers to get the most in-focus parts of each layer. Auto-Align Layers takes care of the slight differences in size due to focus breathing, etc. Luckily the DA* 50-135 doesn't seem to suffer much from that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann Bob Sullivan wrote: Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: (De-lurking for another blather) I don't have any saliva left in my mouth, so I can't drool over the photos any more. Geminee! Is that all I need to be a good photographer? Just another camera? (Cloaking once again, Galloway, Constant Lurker, occasional wise-guy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/20/2011 8:16 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I notice that the text on Pentax Forums does not wrap to the window width. Even with my browser maximized, I still have to scroll horizontally to read his comments. Makes it hard for me to figure out. So you're saying that Pentax forums is coded by idiots as well? -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You know, Jostein, I think I hate you more than this other guy. Your pictures manage to look normal and fabulous at the the same time. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:31 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/20/2011 8:16 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I notice that the text on Pentax Forums does not wrap to the window width. Even with my browser maximized, I still have to scroll horizontally to read his comments. Makes it hard for me to figure out. So you're saying that Pentax forums is coded by idiots as well? -- Where's the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering Kaboom! --Marvin the Martian. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually, he get's paid by his wealthy supermodel wife because she so loves his work. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann Bob Sullivan wrote: Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: (De-lurking for another blather) I don't have any saliva left in my mouth, so I can't drool over the photos any more. Geminee! Is that all I need to be a good photographer? Just another camera? (Cloaking once again, Galloway, Constant Lurker, occasional wise-guy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/20 Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com: You know, Jostein, I think I hate you more than this other guy. Your pictures manage to look normal and fabulous at the the same time. Awww. That's got to be the nicest hate mail ever. Thanks Steve! :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/4/20 Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: As I recall I was about 3-4 feet away. I couldn't have been too far because my office/studio isn't very wide. That's interesting. Checked the figures with a DOF calculator... If you got the max DOF out of each shot with no overlap, it's still a pretty small cake. It looked so much bigger in the picture. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I *can* tell you its size: 7.5 diameter and roughly half that high. It was baked in a crockpot, inside a metal liner that I just measured. It's a small cake 'cause there's just the two of us. And that's the largest liner we could find. :-) -bmw On 11-04-20 12:27 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/4/20 Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com: As I recall I was about 3-4 feet away. I couldn't have been too far because my office/studio isn't very wide. That's interesting. Checked the figures with a DOF calculator... If you got the max DOF out of each shot with no overlap, it's still a pretty small cake. It looked so much bigger in the picture. :-) Jostein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's well done. I would never have guessed it was a composite. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-20 6:02 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/4/20 AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com: With landscapes it's different of course... :-) Sorry, forgot something there. I believe that when shifting the focus of a lens, one _might_ also change the magnification, distortion, etc. depending on the lens design. So stacking shots may be more tricky than in the case of macro. But for landscapes you can still get a very long way by calculating the total DOF and focus manually. Besides, I get the impression that this guy use wide-angle lenses (a 35mm on 645D = a 18mm on APS-C). Assuming that's what he used for the deep perspective shots I believe f/11 will give him enough DOF for any of them. Jostein Here's a cake landscape :-) that I focus-stacked (in an attempt) to get complete front-to-back focus ... http://goo.gl/YBbBg This was done from 3 shots through a DA* 50-135 @ 135 at f/8 on my K20D. The cake was lit with an AF-540FGZ on wireless in an 18 softbox. (I used a 2nd 540 to blow out the wall behind the cake.) Despite being f/8, the DoF was only about 25% of the depth of the cake. I manually focused to three planes: front, middle and rear. In hindsight I should have done 4 or 5 shots as you can see that the surface between the middle and rear is in soft focus. These shots were pulled into PS as one image with 3 layers. I ran Auto-Align Layers then Auto-Blend Layers to get the most in-focus parts of each layer. Auto-Align Layers takes care of the slight differences in size due to focus breathing, etc. Luckily the DA* 50-135 doesn't seem to suffer much from that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you, Steven. -bmw On 11-04-20 1:11 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: That's well done. I would never have guessed it was a composite. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Bruce Walkerbruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-20 6:02 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2011/4/20 AlunFotoalunf...@gmail.com: With landscapes it's different of course... :-) Sorry, forgot something there. I believe that when shifting the focus of a lens, one _might_ also change the magnification, distortion, etc. depending on the lens design. So stacking shots may be more tricky than in the case of macro. But for landscapes you can still get a very long way by calculating the total DOF and focus manually. Besides, I get the impression that this guy use wide-angle lenses (a 35mm on 645D = a 18mm on APS-C). Assuming that's what he used for the deep perspective shots I believe f/11 will give him enough DOF for any of them. Jostein Here's a cake landscape :-) that I focus-stacked (in an attempt) to get complete front-to-back focus ... http://goo.gl/YBbBg This was done from 3 shots through a DA* 50-135 @ 135 at f/8 on my K20D. The cake was lit with an AF-540FGZ on wireless in an 18 softbox. (I used a 2nd 540 to blow out the wall behind the cake.) Despite being f/8, the DoF was only about 25% of the depth of the cake. I manually focused to three planes: front, middle and rear. In hindsight I should have done 4 or 5 shots as you can see that the surface between the middle and rear is in soft focus. These shots were pulled into PS as one image with 3 layers. I ran Auto-Align Layers then Auto-Blend Layers to get the most in-focus parts of each layer. Auto-Align Layers takes care of the slight differences in size due to focus breathing, etc. Luckily the DA* 50-135 doesn't seem to suffer much from that. -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob Sullivan Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. Might cost you or me $10K for travel, but his profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Almost all of those beautiful, exotic locations are practically in his back yard. I Googled the locations from the captions. Most of them seemed to be within 20 - 50 miles. Yosemite is 180 some miles away, and the farthest point I noticed he'd traveled was Page AZ. That's less than 1000 miles. If you already knew your locations, you could do that on a 3 day weekend from the SF Bay area. If he's willing to start early and stay late, he could get most of what he's got as a dedicated weekend shooter and not spend more than a couple nights away from home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John, Morning or sunset shots are mostly what I see. This means maybe one shot to post per day, and that's for the close by locations! I saw Zion NP in Utah, Arizona, Yosemite, the Golden Gate Bridge from below at night - all of those shots are time eaters to get right. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 3:11 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Bob Sullivan Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. Might cost you or me $10K for travel, but his profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Almost all of those beautiful, exotic locations are practically in his back yard. I Googled the locations from the captions. Most of them seemed to be within 20 - 50 miles. Yosemite is 180 some miles away, and the farthest point I noticed he'd traveled was Page AZ. That's less than 1000 miles. If you already knew your locations, you could do that on a 3 day weekend from the SF Bay area. If he's willing to start early and stay late, he could get most of what he's got as a dedicated weekend shooter and not spend more than a couple nights away from home. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Ann Sanfedele I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann His profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Isn't there some kind of technical college located there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: P. J. Alling On 4/20/2011 8:16 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I notice that the text on Pentax Forums does not wrap to the window width. Even with my browser maximized, I still have to scroll horizontally to read his comments. Makes it hard for me to figure out. So you're saying that Pentax forums is coded by idiots as well? Oh no! You ain't gonna catch me that easily. All I'm saying is the text didn't wrap and because of that, I found it more difficult to read. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A grad student? When I was grad student my biggest investment was groceries. (Come to think of it, that was still true when I was an assistant professor.) The 645D is a lot of scratch on a grad student's salary. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann His profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Isn't there some kind of technical college located there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob Sullivan John, Morning or sunset shots are mostly what I see. This means maybe one shot to post per day, and that's for the close by locations! I saw Zion NP in Utah, Arizona, Yosemite, the Golden Gate Bridge from below at night - all of those shots are time eaters to get right. Regards, Bob S. Sure. But he still didn't need a $10K travel budget just to get it right. From his base in Palo Alto, it's doable on a budget even I could afford. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Stan, believe it or not, I've had at least two situations when the sun was between dark clouds close to the horizon, but locally there were no clouds over the head, and hence it was much brighter. I am not claiming that photographer didn't manipulate[*] the photos. It's just that such a light situation can occur naturally as well. [*] - I agree with Paul Stenquist on this issue - as he replied to you in this thread. Igor Tue Apr 19 20:00:10 CDT 2011 Stan Halpin wrote: ... Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The bio on his web site says he's a doctoral candidate in engineering and the USA is his second country. He describes himself on the blog linked to his website as a temporary software enginner. http://www.harkleephotography.com/biography.html I wouldn't be surprised if he got a stipend from his first country and generous parents to supplement any earnings he makes as a grad student. I don't think he waited for the 645D to come along before starting his photography business either, so there might be some way he's managing to write it off his taxes as a business expense. From: Steven Desjardins A grad student? When I was grad student my biggest investment was groceries. (Come to think of it, that was still true when I was an assistant professor.) The 645D is a lot of scratch on a grad student's salary. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann His profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Isn't there some kind of technical college located there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John, He looks like a doctoral student in engineering at CalTech. He's smart, industrious, and full of energy. Maybe Godfrey has run into him... Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:21 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: The bio on his web site says he's a doctoral candidate in engineering and the USA is his second country. He describes himself on the blog linked to his website as a temporary software enginner. http://www.harkleephotography.com/biography.html I wouldn't be surprised if he got a stipend from his first country and generous parents to supplement any earnings he makes as a grad student. I don't think he waited for the 645D to come along before starting his photography business either, so there might be some way he's managing to write it off his taxes as a business expense. From: Steven Desjardins A grad student? When I was grad student my biggest investment was groceries. (Come to think of it, that was still true when I was an assistant professor.) The 645D is a lot of scratch on a grad student's salary. On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:52 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele I loved most of the photography -- but my 'I really hate you has an eliment of.. How did you get that great job??? wouldn't it be wonderful to have a car, a fine camera, an expense account and 6 months to do nothing but shoot? I guess he is getting paid by Pentax? ann His profile says he's a grad student in Palo Alto, CA. Isn't there some kind of technical college located there? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant stan On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Stan, believe it or not, I've had at least two situations when the sun was between dark clouds close to the horizon, but locally there were no clouds over the head, and hence it was much brighter. I am not claiming that photographer didn't manipulate[*] the photos. It's just that such a light situation can occur naturally as well. [*] - I agree with Paul Stenquist on this issue - as he replied to you in this thread. Igor Tue Apr 19 20:00:10 CDT 2011 Stan Halpin wrote: ... Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 20, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: Yeah. I need to learn not to post comments when I am feeling grumpy. rant I like winter. I like spring-summer-fall. I do NOT like this long period between the end of winter and the beginning of spring. I am gong crazy up here! /rant Ditto! Paul stan On Apr 20, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Stan, believe it or not, I've had at least two situations when the sun was between dark clouds close to the horizon, but locally there were no clouds over the head, and hence it was much brighter. I am not claiming that photographer didn't manipulate[*] the photos. It's just that such a light situation can occur naturally as well. [*] - I agree with Paul Stenquist on this issue - as he replied to you in this thread. Igor Tue Apr 19 20:00:10 CDT 2011 Stan Halpin wrote: ... Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There are several of the guy's imagery that look HDR to me. Not the overblown kind of HDR that passes for HDR these days, but HDR as it is supposed to be done. I'm not looking at the page right now, but the Golden Gate bridge photo is the most obvious HDR to me. The chain in the foreground is clearly lit by a strobe. I think it is more than a little bit deceptive for him not to explain some of that. Makes one think the 645D is capable of doing what he shows right out of the camera. It is more a testament to his post-processing skills than 40 megapixels (at least as far as web resolution images is concerned). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Spectacular images. Wow. On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So, he complains about DOF issues, then provides these images with these astounding laws-of-physics-defying insane depth-of-field... wondering what he would think of as *good* DOF? -T On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Spectacular images. Wow. On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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When I look @ those images what I see is almost a repeat of certain other lenses that I've used in the past. The color and rendering look a lot like the Fujinon-W 125/5.6 and 135/5.6 that I had several years ago. If I were shooting professionally, this would be the camera of choice. I don't do weddings or sports, so this would be the studio and location rig for me. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's it. I'm saving up. :-) Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:50 PM Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) Spectacular images. Wow. On Apr 19, 2011, at 4:42 PM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I expect he has exacting standards, otherwise he would not have invested the 10K+. Still, damn. I wonder what his keeper rate is. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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There were a few of these that I quite like. And there were many that almost made me want to gag. E.g., the 1st, 2nd, 3rd . . . Pretty much any of them with the sun as an element in the photo. Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. The shots that didn't involve such gimmickry were quite nice. It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You do not know the power of the dark side . . . On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: There were a few of these that I quite like. And there were many that almost made me want to gag. E.g., the 1st, 2nd, 3rd . . . Pretty much any of them with the sun as an element in the photo. Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. The shots that didn't involve such gimmickry were quite nice. It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan Is this Stan Halpin or Stan Lee? With great megapixels comes great responsibility. Sincerely, Collin Brendemuehl http://kerygmainstitute.org He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose -- Jim Elliott -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: There were a few of these that I quite like. And there were many that almost made me want to gag. E.g., the 1st, 2nd, 3rd . . . Pretty much any of them with the sun as an element in the photo. Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. I disagree. I find the first thee shots superb. The shooter obviously had to at least do some burning and dodging to get this effect and quite possibly employed filters, but the resulting look is much like the human eye and brain might record with normal correction of the scene. And the overall result, to me at least, is very pleasing. Manipulation of values is a valid photographic tool. Take Ansel Adams scenics for example. And the reality of what a camera can capture without manipulation isn't exclusively valid. Paul It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. The shots that didn't involve such gimmickry were quite nice. It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I am ok with manipulation, and in my own novice way I do work on my own images. I just think that some are too extreme in that they go beyond what the human eye would be capable of seeing. A hyper-realistic effect where the key elements are exaggerated to the point that makes them unreal. YMMV. I just went back through the set looking for specific examples, and found that I was a bit more sanguine the second time through. But it still just does not feel right to me to have a bright reflection off the rocks when the sun is so dim. I think the shots where he did not use dramatic lighting as an element are quite impressive. stan On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: There were a few of these that I quite like. And there were many that almost made me want to gag. E.g., the 1st, 2nd, 3rd . . . Pretty much any of them with the sun as an element in the photo. Either with ND filters or with post processing he was darkening the sun and/or lightening the sunlit foreground to a point that was way beyond natural. I disagree. I find the first thee shots superb. The shooter obviously had to at least do some burning and dodging to get this effect and quite possibly employed filters, but the resulting look is much like the human eye and brain might record with normal correction of the scene. And the overall result, to me at least, is very pleasing. Manipulation of values is a valid photographic tool. Take Ansel Adams scenics for example. And the reality of what a camera can capture without manipulation isn't exclusively valid. Paul It is just not possible to have a reflection that is brighter than the object being reflected. The shots that didn't involve such gimmickry were quite nice. It seems that, like with most breakthrough products, there is great potential for evil as well as good. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
re: I really hate this guy 'smiley face'
(De-lurking for another blather) I don't have any saliva left in my mouth, so I can't drool over the photos any more. Geminee! Is that all I need to be a good photographer? Just another camera? (Cloaking once again, Galloway, Constant Lurker, occasional wise-guy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I really hate this guy 'smiley face'
Yeah, if I just had that 'better camera'! And how long has the camera been out, 6 months? I might need a time machine too. Did you look at where those pictures were taken? He's got pictures from all the best places I've been or heard of. That's got to be another $10K on travel and motel rooms, plus his FULL TIME, BEST EFFORTS for the last 6 months. I don't get enough keepers to produce those results in that time. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Morris Galloway morris-gallo...@sbcglobal.net wrote: (De-lurking for another blather) I don't have any saliva left in my mouth, so I can't drool over the photos any more. Geminee! Is that all I need to be a good photographer? Just another camera? (Cloaking once again, Galloway, Constant Lurker, occasional wise-guy.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I really hate this guy :)
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: I really hate this guy :) I expect he has exacting standards, otherwise he would not have invested the 10K+. Still, damn. I wonder what his keeper rate is. Probably alot lower than you think. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: oh my -- quite wonderful ann Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-medium-format-645-6x7-645d/139755-my-final-thoughts-645d.html kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
