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I am almost embarrased to say that I am one of the ones that falls into the "never" category having never developed my own films in a darkroom. I did purchase all the gear to set one up a few years back, but sold it all again when I found that I was expecting our baby and would need the room as a nursery... tan.
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graywolf wrote: > Har! That would be telling. (grin) > > Related questions: > 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. annsan does > > 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? I just have to empty it out if I needed to use it - the enlarger and the trays are sitting there, but at the moment it reverted to a closet > > 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? I DID both at first. Then only BW - then... see below > 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. For the nonce, I have , in terms of printing. I still develop BW myself when shooting it. It hurts my back a lot to work in the darkroom and my eyes have a hard time adjusting. But I'm not ready to say I've given it up totally. I miss it. annsan
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At 10:40 PM 12/27/2003, Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone said: > > Everything is on the computer now. Can't imagine using the real darkroom > > again. Other than e-bay or a garage sale, what are you guys going with > > your old darkroom equipment? No, everything is not "on the computer now," at least not for everybody. My old darkroom equipment, for example, is used to make silver-based photographic B&W prints, which can then be viewed by people who do everything on the computer, and which will cause them wonder and amazement as they look perplexed trying to understand how such a thing can be created without a software, profiles, electronic printing and recording devices, and how it is that the blacks are so black -- Shel - When I said "everything is on the computer now" I was speaking for the way I do things today. Didn't mean to make a big blanket statement. I've had two "permanent" darkrooms over the years. I've also had several temporary darkrooms where I had to set everything up and take it down for each session. I just don't get along with the temporary situation. For me, the computer was a godsend. I could do color, I don't have any setup time. And I have way more control than I ever had before. I don't do Black and White much these days. When I do it's more of a duotone or simulated sepia. These seem to lookl fine on the Canon printer. I'm with you, it's hard to get the blacks and the subtle tonal gradations from an inkjet printer, but then I haven't been happy since RC papers took over. I'm encouraged by some of the specialized ink sets, and believe at some point I may begin to experiment with them. On the other hand so many more possibilities have arisen. Yesterday, I made prints from a couple of the nicer holiday snapshots. I put a several of those snapshots on my web site to share with family and friends that are scattered all over the country. And, I made a nice DVD of the same snapshots for my mom, who doesn't have a computer. I did all of this in the time it would have taken to set up and take down my darkroom equipment. So, for me, at least for now, "everything is on the computer". See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net <<< the holiday snapshots were taken with the *istD. Take a look if you'd like. Look for "Christmas 2003" in the featured galleries.
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> >1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. > >2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? Yes, I use a former kitchen as wet darkroom for developping (only b/w) and printing and an other little room for dry working > >3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? Both, color only with CIBACHROME printing from KODACHROMES and EKTACHROMES > >4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. No PC is in the real darkroom Happy New Year to you all Kristian-Heinrich from Black Forrest / Germany - Original Message - From: "George Sinos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:04 PM Subject: Re: Just curious ... Related questions > Graywolf asked related questions: > > >Related questions: > >1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. > >2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you > >use it? > >3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? > >4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. the real darkroom
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> -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Someone said: > > > > Everything is on the computer now. Can't imagine using > the real darkroom > > > again. Other than e-bay or a garage sale, what are you > guys going with > > > your old darkroom equipment? > > No, everything is not "on the computer now," at least not > for everybody. My > old darkroom equipment, for example, is used to make > silver-based photographic > B&W prints, Just for the record, I get silver-based photographic b/w prints from digital. tv
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And there's the pure enjoyment of the darkroom. With one's favorite music playing in the background, the image emerges under the developer bath. Drop it in the stop bath, then in the fix, and wait anxiously for that moment when the lights can be turned on. There's a lot of magic in the process, and a lot of beauty in the finished print. As of yet, it can't be duplicated on the computer. And, at the moment, I'm making prints on my computer. But these are two different things, and both of them are good. My enlarger lenses are as prized as my camera lenses and for the same reasons. It's all part of the game of making pictures. Paul On Dec 27, 2003, at 9:42 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Someone said: Everything is on the computer now. Can't imagine using the real darkroom again. Other than e-bay or a garage sale, what are you guys going with your old darkroom equipment? No, everything is not "on the computer now," at least not for everybody. My old darkroom equipment, for example, is used to make silver-based photographic B&W prints, which can then be viewed by people who do everything on the computer, and which will cause them wonder and amazement as they look perplexed trying to understand how such a thing can be created without a software, profiles, electronic printing and recording devices, and how it is that the blacks are so black
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Someone said: > > Everything is on the computer now. Can't imagine using the real darkroom > > again. Other than e-bay or a garage sale, what are you guys going with > > your old darkroom equipment? No, everything is not "on the computer now," at least not for everybody. My old darkroom equipment, for example, is used to make silver-based photographic B&W prints, which can then be viewed by people who do everything on the computer, and which will cause them wonder and amazement as they look perplexed trying to understand how such a thing can be created without a software, profiles, electronic printing and recording devices, and how it is that the blacks are so black
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graywolf wrote: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. Don't have my own, but I have access to a fairly well-equipped one, with enlargers for B&W up to 4x5, and a dichro head on one of the 35mm enlargers. My friend Bob keeps threatening to frame out a darkroom in his basement, and I've already drawn up floorplans for him for that... Living in an apartment set up like mine is, I'm lucky enough to have storage space for all the cameras and film and paper and supplies. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? Permanent, dedicated space. 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? For my own processing, I mostly do B&W. I have done non-digital color printing, RA-4 process, using a Beseler processing machine, but never C41 or E6 film development. I've always paid someone else to do that. I've found color printing to be far more painstaking and frustrating than B&W, but sometimes the result is worth it. 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. I've actually gone in the opposite direction... and I think I'll stick with a wet darkroom for prints that really matter, until I get a digital camera, since scanning is such a PITA for me (that darn ADD again...) -Mat
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Got one, and, by your definition, it's permanent. I do B&W. I am, however, getting rid of some darkroom gear that I no longer need ... mostly redundant items - you've got an enlarging lens that i sold, for example, and I sold a couple of easels, donated some trays to a school, and might get back down to only one or two enlargers. Recently I thought I'd do very little work in the darkroom from now on, yet today I'm getting ready to straighten things up in there and get ready for some work. And since these things go in spurts for me, the d'room'll probably be getting a lot of use over the next few weeks ... shel graywolf wrote: > Har! That would be telling. (grin) > > Related questions: > 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. > 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? > 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? > 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. >
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From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...but who the hell knows, eh?..." <= Canadian linguistic trick for converting any statement into a rhetorical question. It's nifty and quaint, eh? Regards, Bob... They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.
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: "graywolf" wrote: > Related questions: > 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. > 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? Yes, but I have to set it up in the kitchen > 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? B&W prints, colour slides > 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. Surely that would be sacrilege? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia
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Hi, Tom, 1. No 2. See #1 3. If (when) I set one up, it will be for b&w 4. Never had one. Even if (when) I go digital, I don't think it'll replace my film b&w stuff (but who the hell knows, eh?) cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Just curious ... Related questions Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 14:49:58 -0500 Har! That would be telling. (grin) Related questions: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Who on this list has never developed their own film and made prints in a darkroom? -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Related questions: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. 1.yes 2.permanent dry set up in a walk in closet 3.B&W only I machine print color for a living 4. not yet. However when I set it up I had a MF camera and was hoping that shooting and printing B&W would fire my creative juices and have me shoot more. I no longer have a MF camera and it didn't motivate me to shoot more. As I hardly ever use it I may sell it in the spring. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
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1. I do. 2. Permanent. 3. Just B&W. 4. Never (I don't think). -Original Message- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: December 27, 2003 2:50 PM Related questions: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital.
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Graywolf asked related questions: Related questions: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. I can't believe I actually developed my own transparencies. Thank goodness that urge passed quickly. My darkroom equipment has been packed in boxes for several years. I enjoyed black and white printing, but no longer have the time or space for a darkroom. A few years ago I had the idea that one of my kids may want to use it someday. Can't see that happening these days. Everything is on the computer now. Can't imagine using the real darkroom again. Other than e-bay or a garage sale, what are you guys going with your old darkroom equipment? See you later, gs www.georgesphotos.net
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- Original Message - From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: Just curious ... Related questions > > Related questions: > 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. Does a dozen boxes in the basement with good intentions of doing something with them again count? > 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? It will be permanent, after I get it built. > 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? I have done both, but I haven't done colour since the RA-4 process killed EP-2. > 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. Not yet.. William Robb
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On 27/12/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. Yes! >2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you >use it? Each time I use it. >3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? B&W only. >4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. It's all in a plastic box, been sitting in a dusty corner for over a year now. And to be fair, I only used to process the film. The last time I printed must be about 1978 in my father's darkroom (used for manufacturing processes involving printed circuit boards - I had a corner). Before that it was at art college. It was fun, but I don't miss it one bit. Smelly places and fixer always got into your sandwich no matter how many times you washed your hands. Slow, dark, torrid places. You can tell I'm big on instant gratification ;-) I have a deep admiration for good wet printers - just would rather not myself. I'd been waiting for digital since about 1992. Maybe l when I'm old and haggard (hang on, I *am* old and haggard) I'll want to have another go, after I've shot some sheet film in an ancient wooden plate camera :-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Related questions: 1. who on the list currently has a darkroom. I still have the stuff stored in the attic but I'm not set up to use it. 2. is it a permanent darkroom, or do you have to set it up each time you use it? I had a permanent darkroom in my other house and hope to have one again. 3. do you do B&W, or color, or both? I did B&W develop and print and Cibachrome prints. I never messed with color other than that. I never had the temperature control equipment. 4. who besides TV has junked their darkroom for digital. Never! Give me a blindfold and a cigarette first! Unless I finally buy a film scanner... Tom Reese
