Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
On 3/8/2010 2:55 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote: Additionally: 3. How useful is the second reflector (source) when you tilt/swivel the flash head? My old Metz 40MZ-2 (or something like this) has a secondary light source. It also has two slide on gray filters to control the output of this source. I use it fairly often when photographing kids in Galia's class - it eliminates eye shadows, adds a bit of sprinkle to the eyes and generally is useful. It is especially useful when tilting/swiveling the flash because in my case it usually means underexposure due to specifics of the way this flash integrates with my camera. HTH Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
2010/3/16 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: I use it fairly often when photographing kids in Galia's class - it eliminates eye shadows, adds a bit of sprinkle to the eyes and generally is useful. Um... Cry a lot, do they? :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
I've never used a Metz, but I used to have a Cullman with a second reflector. I found this handy. Not for catch light, but to avoid raccoon eyes when bouncing flash from above the subject. -- MaritimTim http://maritimtim.blogspot.com/ 2010/3/8 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Hi All, I was trying to place an order for a Pentax AF 540 FGZ flash, when I discovered that Metz 58 AF-1PS costs just $15 more. I've never had experience with any Metz flashes. Two main concerns that I have: 1. From what I read, all control is done via soft buttons, - e.g. via contextual menus. How ergonomic/cumbersome is it? 2. Have you had any issues with the compatibility with Pentax bodies (e.g. metering reproducibility, functionality, etc.)? Additionally: 3. How useful is the second reflector (source) when you tilt/swivel the flash head? I will need to place an order soon (Sunday, maybe Monday), so I would appreciate your quick responses. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
On 3/16/2010 1:03 PM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/3/16 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: I use it fairly often when photographing kids in Galia's class - it eliminates eye shadows, adds a bit of sprinkle to the eyes and generally is useful. Um... Cry a lot, do they? :-) Jostein Oh... After fifth reading of your message I see your humour, mista... Well, I can make them cry if I buy a strong power pack and shoot at 5fps ;-). Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
2010/3/16 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com: 2010/3/16 Boris Libermanbori...@gmail.com: I use it fairly often when photographing kids in Galia's class - it eliminates eye shadows, adds a bit of sprinkle to the eyes and generally is useful. Um... Cry a lot, do they? :-) Oh... After fifth reading of your message I see your humour, mista... Well, I can make them cry if I buy a strong power pack and shoot at 5fps ;-). You could also attach a hose and a shower head to your flash, I guess. Could be nice in summer, you know. :-) Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
I have both of these also; I'd find it hard to split them, they both perform well. The secondary reflector is handy for catchlights, esp. when you can't use the bounce card thing because you're bouncing off a wall at an odd angle. I don't really find either menu system particularly more difficult to use. The Metz will go down to 1/256 power, in 1/3rd steps - the Pentax only 1/64. Not relevant for 'normal' use, but can be handy for in-close off camera flash. Both work fine in Pentax wireless mode. The Metz full-power flash duration is 1/125 - so if you're shooting at 1/180 full sync, you can't get quite the quoted power out of it - not by a lot, but you can see a difference in tests. I don't think this is the case with the Pentax. Both work in HSS, not sure on power levels here. - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
2010/3/8 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Since you have both, if you were choosing between Metz 58A and Pentax 540 FGZ - which one and why would you choose? Actually I like the Metz best, partly because of the extra tube for CC. Since I got the Pentax back I haven't tested them head to head, so I dunno about the consistency of the respective main tubes, though. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
Tomek and Jostein, Thanks a lot for sharing your opinions! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
urgently need impression about Metz flash
Hi All, I was trying to place an order for a Pentax AF 540 FGZ flash, when I discovered that Metz 58 AF-1PS costs just $15 more. I've never had experience with any Metz flashes. Two main concerns that I have: 1. From what I read, all control is done via soft buttons, - e.g. via contextual menus. How ergonomic/cumbersome is it? 2. Have you had any issues with the compatibility with Pentax bodies (e.g. metering reproducibility, functionality, etc.)? Additionally: 3. How useful is the second reflector (source) when you tilt/swivel the flash head? I will need to place an order soon (Sunday, maybe Monday), so I would appreciate your quick responses. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
On 08-03-2010 01:55, Igor Roshchin wrote: Additionally: 3. How useful is the second reflector (source) when you tilt/swivel the flash head? I haven't used the new USB Metz flashes, so can't comment on AF58 usability, but I used several of the earlier big (40MZ.., 54MZ..) models on Pentax bodies before going dark side, and was very happy with them. Not with P-TTL itself though :) The secondary flash might be used to create eye catchlights in close-up portraits (when you have absolutely no other choice but to do close portraits with on camera flash :), not for much else. You can safely ignore this feature. Fill light from this tiny reflector was either too weak or too harsh, coming from small in-lens-axis source. Difficult to control, unpredictable, pretty useless IMO. A business card sized piece of whatever white (usualy card sized white back of a card :) rubber-banded to tilted main reflector seems to be much more reliable as fill-in/catchlight. cheers tm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
Over here the Metz is cheaper than the Pentax. I have both because I had to buy a replacement for the Pentax, then got the Pentax repaired anyway. 1. Can't say the menu stuff bothers me. Depends on how much you need to fiddle. 2. I have only used it on K-7. It works fine there. 3. AFAIK there's only one bounce reflector, which is useless when working in portrait mode. The extra flash tube can be considered to replace the camera built-in flash for contrast control. The only times you _want_ to use this feature is when you do tilt/swivel. In my experience, it works best when set to the lowest output. General impression is that this device is solidly made, and delivering consistent blinks. 2010/3/8 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org: Hi All, I was trying to place an order for a Pentax AF 540 FGZ flash, when I discovered that Metz 58 AF-1PS costs just $15 more. I've never had experience with any Metz flashes. Two main concerns that I have: 1. From what I read, all control is done via soft buttons, - e.g. via contextual menus. How ergonomic/cumbersome is it? 2. Have you had any issues with the compatibility with Pentax bodies (e.g. metering reproducibility, functionality, etc.)? Additionally: 3. How useful is the second reflector (source) when you tilt/swivel the flash head? I will need to place an order soon (Sunday, maybe Monday), so I would appreciate your quick responses. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: urgently need impression about Metz flash
Jostein, Thank you for your response. Since you have both, if you were choosing between Metz 58A and Pentax 540 FGZ - which one and why would you choose? Thank you, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Metz Flash
Peter, I think this is a simple market segme,tation thingie (and somewhat logic too): * SCA flashes: provide Metz wireless system (with the proper Metz adapter) * Dedicated flashes do provide brand dedicated wireless system. But I agree with you, in a perfect world ... -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
and the USB socket is for..? From: Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/19 Wed PM 09:28:58 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Metz Flash Interesting - don't see it listed on BH or Adorama yet. -p Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 9/19/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoer/176029/-/Article.html? -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
flashing (the firmware, I think I read) and the USB socket is for..? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
mike wilson wrote: and the USB socket is for..? So you can connect it to your USB toaster, of course! http://store.theonion.com/gotcha-box-3-box-set-p-68.html (I'm surprised you even had to ask.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
8-) I worked that out for myself, eventually. A flash with programmable firmware. Scary From: Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/20 Thu AM 11:27:14 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Metz Flash flashing (the firmware, I think I read) and the USB socket is for..? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
You want to hear crazy. I was doing a galley layout today the combi oven the client specified has a computer connection so you can program it for different recipes! Hooly dooly. And I thought digital timers were flash. Cheers, Dave On 9/20/07, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 8-) I worked that out for myself, eventually. A flash with programmable firmware. Scary From: Axel Belinfante [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/09/20 Thu AM 11:27:14 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Metz Flash flashing (the firmware, I think I read) and the USB socket is for..? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoer/176029/-/Article.html? Do you know if it's 100% compatible with K10D? (including e.g. wireless) As I understand it it does indeed support Pentax Wireless flash, and HSS, etc. (unlike any Metz flash with a SCA) What it does *not* support, to my annoyance, is Metz Cordless Remote Flash. I would love to get one of these as a good dedicated flash for my K10D, but I would really like to be able to use it with my other Metz Flashes in cordless remote. I tried several times in vain to explain this to Metz support, and request and update to add this feature (via USB :) ) - but I couldn't get the concept through. Language barrier I suppose. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday eyeon Software -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
I've actually heard of wi-fi toasters though for the life of me I can't figure out why a toaster would need Internet access, or a hell of a lot of processing power beyond a relay and a temperature sensor. I suspect somebody pushing this idea is trying to kick start the singularity, by producing networked devices with large reserves of processing power, way beyond what they need to do their very limited jobs. Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: and the USB socket is for..? So you can connect it to your USB toaster, of course! http://store.theonion.com/gotcha-box-3-box-set-p-68.html (I'm surprised you even had to ask.) -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
On Thursday 20 September 2007 14:57, Peter Loveday wrote: There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubeho er/176029/-/Article.html? Do you know if it's 100% compatible with K10D? (including e.g. wireless) As I understand it it does indeed support Pentax Wireless flash, and HSS, etc. (unlike any Metz flash with a SCA) What it does *not* support, to my annoyance, is Metz Cordless Remote Flash. I would love to get one of these as a good dedicated flash for my K10D, but I would really like to be able to use it with my other Metz Flashes in cordless remote. I tried several times in vain to explain this to Metz support, and request and update to add this feature (via USB :) ) - but I couldn't get the concept through. Language barrier I suppose. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday eyeon Software Perhaps through a firmware update? Keep asking, I want it too. -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
Except when the toaster runs on Windows Vista off course. -- Frits Wüthrich On Thursday 20 September 2007 17:19, P. J. Alling wrote: I've actually heard of wi-fi toasters though for the life of me I can't figure out why a toaster would need Internet access, or a hell of a lot of processing power beyond a relay and a temperature sensor. I suspect somebody pushing this idea is trying to kick start the singularity, by producing networked devices with large reserves of processing power, way beyond what they need to do their very limited jobs. Mark Roberts wrote: mike wilson wrote: and the USB socket is for..? So you can connect it to your USB toaster, of course! http://store.theonion.com/gotcha-box-3-box-set-p-68.html (I'm surprised you even had to ask.) -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Metz Flash
There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoer/176029/-/Article.html? -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
Mmm quite a lot less expensiva that I thought it would be. Very interested in it and waiting for comments about it ! -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
On 9/19/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoer/176029/-/Article.html? -- Frits Wüthrich Do you know if it's 100% compatible with K10D? (including e.g. wireless) From Metz's it seems it is, but just to be sure... Thanks. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
Interesting - don't see it listed on BH or Adorama yet. -p Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 9/19/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoer/176029/-/Article.html? -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz Flash
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 22:23, Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu wrote: On 9/19/07, Frits Wüthrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a discussion some time ago about a Metz flash for the K10D and other DSLRs from Pentax, the 58AF 1P. Technikdirect has it now for 300 euro, shipping in 1 to 2 days. http://www.technikdirekt.de/main/en/foto/fotodigital/blitzgeraete-zubehoe r/176029/-/Article.html? -- Frits Wüthrich Do you know if it's 100% compatible with K10D? (including e.g. wireless) From Metz's it seems it is, but just to be sure... Thanks. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu According to Metz it is. All the compatibilities are listed. Wireless, slave etc. http://2007.metz.de/de/foto-elektronik/das-ist-mecablitz/full-dedicated-modelle/mecablitz-58-af-1-digital/datenblatt.html -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
http://www.metz.de/en/datenblatt_pe/338/ Apparently this flash already exists for Canon and Nikon. It will not be cheap is my guess, but looks really full spec'd On Saturday 02 June 2007 20:39, Thibouille wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath for TTL support. But a PTTL from Metz compatible with Pentax wireless is a very good news IMO. 2007/6/2, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps this new unit is a lot cheaper than the 540 FGZ with at least the same specs. If not I'll stick with A-mode on my current Metz unit with SCA 3702 on the K10D, also because I can still use this in TTL-mode on my *istD. Well, that's the price of technical progress. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 02 June, 2007 4:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=23467145 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
300 euro at Technik direkt On Sunday 03 June 2007 21:01, Frits Wüthrich wrote: http://www.metz.de/en/datenblatt_pe/338/ Apparently this flash already exists for Canon and Nikon. It will not be cheap is my guess, but looks really full spec'd On Saturday 02 June 2007 20:39, Thibouille wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath for TTL support. But a PTTL from Metz compatible with Pentax wireless is a very good news IMO. 2007/6/2, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps this new unit is a lot cheaper than the 540 FGZ with at least the same specs. If not I'll stick with A-mode on my current Metz unit with SCA 3702 on the K10D, also because I can still use this in TTL-mode on my *istD. Well, that's the price of technical progress. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 02 June, 2007 4:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=2346714 5 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- Frits Wüthrich -- Frits Wüthrich -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
Thanks, that looks interesting. As for prices in Holland: at Kamera-Express this Metz 58 AF-1 for Canon and Nikon is 345 euro, whereas Pentax AF-540 FGZ can be found for 379 euro. I always had good experience with Metz flashes. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frits Wüthrich Sent: 03 June, 2007 9:01 PM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too http://www.metz.de/en/datenblatt_pe/338/ Apparently this flash already exists for Canon and Nikon. It will not be cheap is my guess, but looks really full spec'd -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=23467145 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
Perhaps this new unit is a lot cheaper than the 540 FGZ with at least the same specs. If not I'll stick with A-mode on my current Metz unit with SCA 3702 on the K10D, also because I can still use this in TTL-mode on my *istD. Well, that's the price of technical progress. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 02 June, 2007 4:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=23467145 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too
I wouldn't hold my breath for TTL support. But a PTTL from Metz compatible with Pentax wireless is a very good news IMO. 2007/6/2, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps this new unit is a lot cheaper than the 540 FGZ with at least the same specs. If not I'll stick with A-mode on my current Metz unit with SCA 3702 on the K10D, also because I can still use this in TTL-mode on my *istD. Well, that's the price of technical progress. Henk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thibouille Sent: 02 June, 2007 4:42 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Metz flash news (SCA and dedicated), wireless too http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=23467145 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Metz flash repair in australia
So do I, Kevin I never use a battery pack anymore (except for my Metz 60'es).I use NiCad's You can buy a special battery comparment for AA batteries (needs diffent contacts inside) for NiCad's or NiMH batteries. I even made a spceial batteryaddapter, so I can use 6 large C-batteries or NiCad's to be put in a special container that can be purchaesed with cheaply in any electronics store: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10016673.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029921.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029922.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029920.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10035293.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10035294.html Hope this inspires you do go diffent ways :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Kevin Waterson Sendt: 16. november 2006 07:53 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Metz flash repair in australia I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: Metz flash repair in australia
So do I, Kevin I never use a battery pack anymore (except for my Metz 60'es).I use NiCad's You can buy a special battery comparment for AA batteries (needs diffent contacts inside) for NiCad's or NiMH batteries. I even made a spceial batteryaddapter, so I can use 6 large C-batteries or NiCad's to be put in a special container that can be purchaesed with cheaply in any electronics store: http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029921.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029922.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10029920.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10035293.html http://gallery37564.fotopic.net/p10035294.html Hope this inspires you do go diffent ways :-) Regards Jens Bladt http://www.jensbladt.dk +45 56 63 77 11 +45 23 43 85 77 Skype: jensbladt248 -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] vegne af Kevin Waterson Sendt: 16. november 2006 07:53 Til: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Emne: Metz flash repair in australia I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.6/536 - Release Date: 11/16/2006 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash repair in australia
From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/11/16 Thu AM 06:53:29 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Metz flash repair in australia I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin Do it yourself... An example: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//pentax_nicd_pack/ -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software Visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash repair in australia
This one time, at band camp, mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do it yourself... An example: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio//pentax_nicd_pack/ Sadly I tried, but the result was a damaged battery holder. The base of the Metz battery pack is very fragile. Kind regards Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
AW: Metz flash repair in australia
Hi Kenvin why dont's you use this flash with normal AA accu batteries? greetings Markus -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Kevin Waterson Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 07:53 An: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Betreff: Metz flash repair in australia I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Metz flash repair in australia
I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin -- -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash repair in australia
Mine came with an AA cell holder and I use NiMH cells. They last twice as long as the pack ever did. To start with filling the holder was a bit of a fiddle. D Kevin Waterson wrote: I have several metz 45 CT series flashes and like most of them in the world, the battery packs are dead and no longer hold charge. The cheapest price I could find was $75.00 to repack them. Does anybody know of a better price somewhere? The most expensive price I got was $140.00. Kind regards Kevin -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash repair in australia
On 11/16/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine came with an AA cell holder and I use NiMH cells. They last twice as long as the pack ever did. To start with filling the holder was a bit of a fiddle. I found the NiMH batteries at 1.2 volt lessened the guide number of the flash. the orginal batteries are 1.6, or with the alkaline batteries at 1.5 volts give maximum output. Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Metz flash repair in australia
Hi Kev, I don't understand that. The battery voltage drops a little after each charge, and each time the capacitors are charged it takes a little longer for them to reach their peak. The ready light should not come on until the capacitors are fully charged and the final voltage should be the same until the batteries run down and won't charge the capacitors at all. Some flashes will flash before they reach peak charge, but I don't think the Metz I have (CT45 - 4) is one of those. The cheap little ring flash I have certainly is and will flash feebly almost as soon as it's switched on. D Kevin Waterson wrote: On 11/16/06, Don Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine came with an AA cell holder and I use NiMH cells. They last twice as long as the pack ever did. To start with filling the holder was a bit of a fiddle. I found the NiMH batteries at 1.2 volt lessened the guide number of the flash. the orginal batteries are 1.6, or with the alkaline batteries at 1.5 volts give maximum output. Kevin -- Dr E D F Williams www.kolumbus.fi/mimosa/ http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams/ 41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Does a Metz flash extender fit any Pentax flash?
Hi Pentaxians does anybody know whether the flash extenders Metz has for the CT 45 and CT 60 series will fit any Pentax flash, preferably the AF400T or a Braun 38m? I'm looking for a way to extend the reach of my flashes... for the crappy lens competition ;-) thanks for any answer Markus
Re: Does a Metz flash extender fit any Pentax flash?
The Kirk Flash Xtender is what you want. http://www.kirkphoto.com/brackets.html On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Pentaxians does anybody know whether the flash extenders Metz has for the CT 45 and CT 60 series will fit any Pentax flash, preferably the AF400T or a Braun 38m? I'm looking for a way to extend the reach of my flashes... for the crappy lens competition ;-) thanks for any answer Markus
RE: Does a Metz flash extender fit any Pentax flash?
Hi Paul thanks, I had a look at their website but they do not mention any Pentax flash or other model I own. Strangely, the list a Pentax 5000AF flash as compatible only. What speaks against a Metz extender, I see some of them alone or with flashes at quite good prices here? greetings Markus -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:52 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Does a Metz flash extender fit any Pentax flash? The Kirk Flash Xtender is what you want. http://www.kirkphoto.com/brackets.html On Mar 28, 2006, at 7:15 PM, Markus Maurer wrote: Hi Pentaxians does anybody know whether the flash extenders Metz has for the CT 45 and CT 60 series will fit any Pentax flash, preferably the AF400T or a Braun 38m? I'm looking for a way to extend the reach of my flashes... for the crappy lens competition ;-) thanks for any answer Markus
*ist DS and older Metz flash(s)
I have been trying out varous combinations of Metz gear: 45 CL4 and 32 CT4. Both work reasonably well with the Metx 374/ AF adapter (the big one with AF assist light). The results with the 372 adapter were less inspiring. There is available the 3702 adapter which would give me fill and some other functions. Is it worth the trouble and expense of buying the special $100cdn cable and $113 adapter? Metz advises on their website there is a new adapter in design for the new digital cameras. Does any one know what difference there will be between the new one and 3702? My local camera shop (2 actually) were not much help, suggesting the new adapter would ensure the flash did not blow the camera up. The old ones havn't so far! The last part of my question is whether the flash guns will damage the camera and if they haven't already are they likely to in the future. Or put another way can damage be incremental, which seems unlikely. Thank you, best regards from Vancouver
Pentax vs Metz flash for MZ-S
Hi Team, Has anybody compared the form and function of the new Pentax AF360FGZ for the MZ-S with the new Metz 54 MZ-3 Flash? The Metz offers HSS but not wireless operation as far as I can ascertain however I like concept of the Metz regarding inter-system compatibility. Any other issues that should be considered? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
New Metz Flash
Today we rec'd the new Metz 54MZ3 in Pentax, and Nikon fittings. I have not had time to examine in detail, however suffice it to say that I am impressed with the build quality, but must spend several hours with the instruction book. It's significantly different to the 40MZ series, in basic design, and info input. The MZ-S is not mentioned as one might expect, however the flash does claim full sync among the many features. I will let you all know as I have more time. Kind regards Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score
My two wedding hell stories: 1. Got to church, snagged pants on something and ripped the seat out of them. Good thing I always listen to my mother (clean socks and underwear). 2. Hot summer day, Baptist Church (lots of "Amens"), bride sitting outside in a/c limo. Comes into church for invocation. Minister goes on at length... Bride starts to wobble and goes down like a stone, out cold. (Lot's more Amen's)... Paul M. Provencher (ppro) -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 6:58 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score So, today was the big day for my neighbour's grand daughter. She likes weddings so much, she decided to throw a second one for herself. Being as how it was for a neighbour and all, I did the photography thing. I decided that I have all these LX's, so I took 2 of them, and the MZ-5. Also, more lenses than I normally carry for this sort of thing, and my venerable Metz 60 CT-2 and a spare battery. We went to the bride's mother's house for a few pictures before the ceremony, so I got a chance to use the 50mm f1.2 and the 77mm for quite a few shots. We then went to the church, where I set my wife up with an LX with the action finder and 80-200 f2.8 on a tripod in the balcony. I stayed on the floor, using the MZ-5 with the 50mm f1.2 for the processional, the 77mm with available light for the ceremony, the 35mm f2 for the register signing, then back to the 50mm f1.2 for the aisle runway shots. It all went swimmingly, and I had half a dozen shots left on the MZ-5 after the ceremony, so I stuck the 20mm f2.8 on and did a few pictures in the limousine. We shot the formals at the Legislative building, which is a particularly nice piece of architecture, with all sorts of marble columns and tiles and the like. This all was going swimmingly, until the usual disaster struck. Every wedding I do, something goes wrong somewhere. Either the bride calls it off, or the groom is drunk, or someone's mother gets bit by a dog (yup, had it happen to the brides mother at a farm wedding once, she got chewed up pretty good too), or a camera fails. This time, I was merrily shooting away, when suddenly, I lost TTL flash. Bummer, I like TTL flash. So, I unplugged the TTL cables and hooked up a regular sync cable so that I could continue. Whoops, the flash was still firing at full output I had lost all automation on the flash. Super Bummer. Fortunately, I had listened to Mafud, and had bought Portra 800 for this one, so I just took the flash off the camera and opened up a couple of stops and kept right on shooting. The only adjustment I had to make was we moved to an area of the building with a big north window for illumination. Thankfully, I had finished the group shots, and was just working with the bride and groom by this time. Anyway, that my story, and I'm sticking to it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score
So, today was the big day for my neighbour's grand daughter. She likes weddings so much, she decided to throw a second one for herself. Being as how it was for a neighbour and all, I did the photography thing. I decided that I have all these LX's, so I took 2 of them, and the MZ-5. Also, more lenses than I normally carry for this sort of thing, and my venerable Metz 60 CT-2 and a spare battery. We went to the bride's mother's house for a few pictures before the ceremony, so I got a chance to use the 50mm f1.2 and the 77mm for quite a few shots. We then went to the church, where I set my wife up with an LX with the action finder and 80-200 f2.8 on a tripod in the balcony. I stayed on the floor, using the MZ-5 with the 50mm f1.2 for the processional, the 77mm with available light for the ceremony, the 35mm f2 for the register signing, then back to the 50mm f1.2 for the aisle runway shots. It all went swimmingly, and I had half a dozen shots left on the MZ-5 after the ceremony, so I stuck the 20mm f2.8 on and did a few pictures in the limousine. We shot the formals at the Legislative building, which is a particularly nice piece of architecture, with all sorts of marble columns and tiles and the like. This all was going swimmingly, until the usual disaster struck. Every wedding I do, something goes wrong somewhere. Either the bride calls it off, or the groom is drunk, or someone's mother gets bit by a dog (yup, had it happen to the brides mother at a farm wedding once, she got chewed up pretty good too), or a camera fails. This time, I was merrily shooting away, when suddenly, I lost TTL flash. Bummer, I like TTL flash. So, I unplugged the TTL cables and hooked up a regular sync cable so that I could continue. Whoops, the flash was still firing at full output I had lost all automation on the flash. Super Bummer. Fortunately, I had listened to Mafud, and had bought Portra 800 for this one, so I just took the flash off the camera and opened up a couple of stops and kept right on shooting. The only adjustment I had to make was we moved to an area of the building with a big north window for illumination. Thankfully, I had finished the group shots, and was just working with the bride and groom by this time. Anyway, that my story, and I'm sticking to it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score
Thanks for that replay of your wedding shoot. Your review of lens choices and shooting strategies is great stuff. Sounds like you did a great job. Today's great high speed color neg films can save your butt, can't they? Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score
I`ll second what Paul said, about replaying the wedding. Too bad about the Metz, hopefully it can be repaired cheap. Let us know how the natural light shots come out. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: "William Robb" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Pentax Discuss" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:57 PM Subject: Wedding hell: Pentax: 3, Metz flash unit: no score So, today was the big day for my neighbour's grand daughter. She likes weddings so much, she decided to throw a second one for herself. Being as how it was for a neighbour and all, I did the photography thing. I decided that I have all these LX's, so I took 2 of them, and the MZ-5. Also, more lenses than I normally carry for this sort of thing, and my venerable Metz 60 CT-2 and a spare battery. We went to the bride's mother's house for a few pictures before the ceremony, so I got a chance to use the 50mm f1.2 and the 77mm for quite a few shots. We then went to the church, where I set my wife up with an LX with the action finder and 80-200 f2.8 on a tripod in the balcony. I stayed on the floor, using the MZ-5 with the 50mm f1.2 for the processional, the 77mm with available light for the ceremony, the 35mm f2 for the register signing, then back to the 50mm f1.2 for the aisle runway shots. It all went swimmingly, and I had half a dozen shots left on the MZ-5 after the ceremony, so I stuck the 20mm f2.8 on and did a few pictures in the limousine. We shot the formals at the Legislative building, which is a particularly nice piece of architecture, with all sorts of marble columns and tiles and the like. This all was going swimmingly, until the usual disaster struck. Every wedding I do, something goes wrong somewhere. Either the bride calls it off, or the groom is drunk, or someone's mother gets bit by a dog (yup, had it happen to the brides mother at a farm wedding once, she got chewed up pretty good too), or a camera fails. This time, I was merrily shooting away, when suddenly, I lost TTL flash. Bummer, I like TTL flash. So, I unplugged the TTL cables and hooked up a regular sync cable so that I could continue. Whoops, the flash was still firing at full output I had lost all automation on the flash. Super Bummer. Fortunately, I had listened to Mafud, and had bought Portra 800 for this one, so I just took the flash off the camera and opened up a couple of stops and kept right on shooting. The only adjustment I had to make was we moved to an area of the building with a big north window for illumination. Thankfully, I had finished the group shots, and was just working with the bride and groom by this time. Anyway, that my story, and I'm sticking to it. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
The long and short of it: I bought the Metz 32-MZ3. Thanks to all in the group for your help in deciding. Maris - Original Message - From: "Jens Bladt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 10:20 AM Subject: SV: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash | Hi | Think I have been writing about Metz flashes more than once. I don't think | other brands are lousy at all! I just find Metz flashes to be very, very | good. My oldest, which I bought in 1981, still works like the first day. The | original Pentax flashes is extreemly well made too. It's a joy just to hold | a AF500 FTZ in your hand. | Jens | | - | This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, | go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to | visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . | | - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
At 00:40 5.2.2001 -0600, you wrote: I have seen Pentax and Metz flashes discussed and compared here as well as in the archives and FAQs, but other brands have barely been mentioned. Metz seems to be the favorite. What are your experiences (if any - maybe they're lousy products) with Sigma, Sunpak and Vivitar? Maris I have a Sunpak flash, the AT555 (or G4500DX in my part of world). It's a big (potatomasher) but very good flash, with almost same range of accessories as Metz. I got it for about 1/3 (!) of 45 CT-x used, and it's comparable with the Metz. Only problem is that I can't get most of the accessories where I live (they stopped importing it), so I don't have yet the TTL pentax module. But even on Auto, it's a wonderful flash, with ability to set almost any f/stop in auto (it has 7 auto modes! the fastest aperture settable in A mode is 1.4 with 100 film! Most Metz flashes have only 2 or 2.8 or more - the 45CL series has even less I think. Good for those fill-in with fast film and wide aperture). I built a battery pack for it, so I can shoot happily hundreds of full manual shots from one battery. Only thing I think comparable series Metz flashes have better is the bracket - Metz's bracket has one more slot into which the flash can be inserted parallel with the bracket, for easy nice vertical shots. Also, sunpak does few flash types not seen anywhere else, e.g. Macro flash (ringlight) with up to 77mm filter dia lenses, with 4 modeling lights! (only other flash with modeling light I can think of is the new announced Pentax flash). Also nice is TTL, hotshoe, barebulb flash (with attachable studio-type reflectors), with enough GN and TTL ability for a very small and very portable studio. Only problem with the AT555/G4500DX is that the TTL adapter for Pentax is analog only (so it doesn't AFAIK support second curtain flash or contrast control. Propably) Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
SV: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
Hi Think I have been writing about Metz flashes more than once. I don't think other brands are lousy at all! I just find Metz flashes to be very, very good. My oldest, which I bought in 1981, still works like the first day. The original Pentax flashes is extreemly well made too. It's a joy just to hold a AF500 FTZ in your hand. Jens - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
I use a Sunpack MZ440AF and it works fine with the newer bodies (is a digital flash.) It's a basic TTL unit - manual zoom, TTL auto flash only. I also have a Vivitar 283. Nice unit - non-dedicated, manual and non-TTL auto, 4 manual settings, 4 auto settings. I also keep a small Fujica Auto-Strobo on hand (picked it up for $5 in the bargain bin.) Non-TTL auto with two power settings - very small and handy with the ME Super. - MCC At 12:40 AM 2/5/01 -0600, you wrote: I have seen Pentax and Metz flashes discussed and compared here as well as in the archives and FAQs, but other brands have barely been mentioned. Metz seems to be the favorite. What are your experiences (if any - maybe they're lousy products) with Sigma, Sunpak and Vivitar? Maris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Kalamazoo, MI [EMAIL PROTECTED] - - - - - - - - - - Photos: http://www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - -
Non-Pentax Non-Metz flash
I have seen Pentax and Metz flashes discussed and compared here as well as in the archives and FAQs, but other brands have barely been mentioned. Metz seems to be the favorite. What are your experiences (if any - maybe they're lousy products) with Sigma, Sunpak and Vivitar? Maris - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: which metz flash adaptor
SCA372 is the one. You still have TTL flash with Z-1p, but it won't do auto-zoom or adjust the displayed aperture on the flash automatically. regards, Alan Chan just quick one to the ever present all knowing ones I'm thinking of going for a metx 60ct-4, and I was wondering what SCA adaptor to buy. I want to use it on lx and z-1p bodies. Looking at metz' website, it seems that there are two choices - analog (SCA 372) or digital (SCA 3701). I know the digital one wont work on the LX bodies, but will I get TTL flash using the analog adaptor on the Z-1p? I'm not that worried about trailing shutter sync or contrast contrast control, so at the momnet I'm leaning towards the SCA372. Both is not an option, as the modules are about US$150 here, and I will be buying one for my Bronica as well. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.
OT: which metz flash adaptor
Hi Folks. just quick one to the ever present all knowing ones I'm thinking of going for a metx 60ct-4, and I was wondering what SCA adaptor to buy. I want to use it on lx and z-1p bodies. Looking at metz' website, it seems that there are two choices - analog (SCA 372) or digital (SCA 3701). I know the digital one wont work on the LX bodies, but will I get TTL flash using the analog adaptor on the Z-1p? I'm not that worried about trailing shutter sync or contrast contrast control, so at the momnet I'm leaning towards the SCA372. Both is not an option, as the modules are about US$150 here, and I will be buying one for my Bronica as well. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, T. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.
RE: which metz flash adaptor
You will lose functions with the analog adapter and the PZ-1p. If you go to the Metz site, http://www.metz.de, choose English, and then look on the page for adapter selection, you'll see which ones to use. If you want to keep all of the PZ-1p flash functions you need to use the SCA 3000 and 3701 adapter/converter pair that they tell you to use there. Len --- -Original Message- From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: which metz flash adaptor You need the analog adaptor for the LX. The PZ-1p will also work with the analog adaptor. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Terence Mac Goff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "PDML" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 10:31 AM Subject: OT: which metz flash adaptor Hi Folks. just quick one to the ever present all knowing ones I'm thinking of going for a metx 60ct-4, and I was wondering what SCA adaptor to buy. I want to use it on lx and z-1p bodies. Looking at metz' website, it seems that there are two choices - analog (SCA 372) or digital (SCA 3701). I know the digital one wont work on the LX bodies, but will I get TTL flash using the analog adaptor on the Z-1p? I'm not that worried about trailing shutter sync or contrast contrast control, so at the momnet I'm leaning towards the SCA372. Both is not an option, as the modules are about US$150 here, and I will be buying one for my Bronica as well. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, visit http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions.
