Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
If you mean the Thordur Hermannsson born on the 21st of November 1955, then 
I'm afraid I don't know him, since he lives on the opposite side of the 
country.
And I'm afraid we're not very related. Our nearest common ancestors are 
Thorarinn Jonsson (1630 - 1699) and Halldora Thorsteinsdottir (1630- ???)

Thrainn


 In that case, I'll play ... Long, long ago (the late 1970s) in a galaxy far
 away (the island of Jamaica) I went to school with an Icelandic fellow
 named Thordur Hermannsson (whose name I am no doubt misspelling) and his
 two sisters. Do you know them?

 E.R.N.
 Reed




RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Malcolm Smith
Hi Bob, 

  Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and 
  misery, and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then...
 
 that was according to Bill Gates, so it must be correct! 
 (Autoroute software).
 
I use (used) a version of that myself, but would like one with bridge
heights and sensible directions :-)

I wonder if the US version is any better - isn't that called 'Streets and
Trips'?

For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to
follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new
roads which a map doesn't show. 

Malcolm 




Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
Alas, I really doubt I will have the time to put together a web page, since 
I've never seem to get around to it, despite (?) working with computers day 
in and day out. But I will keep trying.
However, I have seen the PUG and may well contribute to it. I won't make the 
November PUG, but I'm pretty sure I'll send something into the December PUG.

BTW, I was mistaken about the 6 or 7 generations below. I understand it takes 
10 generations for the whole nation to be interrelated.

Thrainn


On Monday 20 October 2003 08:03, Jostein wrote:
 Quoting Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be
  interrelated.
  I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population
  though.
 
 :-)

 I was just thinking of Iceland.
 The world in total is a bit more tricky indeed.

 If you have a chance to get some of your shots scanned, I for one would
 love to see some pictures from your country on the web. The list has its
 own gallery that you can submit to too. it's at: http://pug.komkon.org


 Cheers,
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Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
If anyone on the list plans to visit Iceland, I will be more than happy to 
help them plan their trip and to book vehicles and lodgings.

Thrainn



On Monday 20 October 2003 09:11, Bob Walkden wrote:
 Hi,

 Monday, October 20, 2003, 9:03:34 AM, you wrote:
  :-)
 
  I was just thinking of Iceland.
  The world in total is a bit more tricky indeed.
 
  If you have a chance to get some of your shots scanned, I for one would
  love to see some pictures from your country on the web.

 I agree! I'm one of the many people I know who have Iceland close to
 the top of their list of countries to visit very soon.




RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread ernreed2
 And the PDML list is growing for GFM...
 
 César
 Panama City, Florida

Got my email confirmation that my registration was
received.



RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to
follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new
roads which a map doesn't show. 

Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits?

I'd like to see your collection ;-)




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RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Anders Hultman
Cotty:

For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to
follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many new
roads which a map doesn't show.
Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits?
I'd like to see your collection ;-)
I took a couple of pictures of a motorway exit this weekend, actually.
Can't say I have a collection, though :-)
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Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Bill Owens
 For relatives coming down, I often send them photos of key turn offs to
 follow with a map, as the motorway near me (M25) has resulted in many
new
 roads which a map doesn't show.
 
 Malcolm, you photograph motorway exits?
 I'd like to see your collection ;-)
 
 I took a couple of pictures of a motorway exit this weekend, actually.
 Can't say I have a collection, though :-)

 *I need a drink*

Sounds like as good excuse as any.




Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Bill Owens
Who's going to protect her from tv.  He needs an assistant.

Bill

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 On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
 Adelheid is coming too?
 
 Woo-Hoo!
 
 This is getting better and better all the time.
 
 vbg
 
 She's a real cutey, too.
 
 And has a sense of humour ;-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Ignatiev
Subject: Re: New to the list


 I'll quote this to the judge at my ticket hearing
 in a couple of weeks -- 80 mph: Yor Hono(u)r, but this
 is what this has been design for, dammit!.
 If it works and he lets me off the hook (not to
 mention the $200 ticket), I'll even agree with
 the low-cost option part.

The owners manual for my BMW suggested doing an Italian tuneup every month
or so. Of course, I got pulled over by the RCMP for doing just over 170kph
one day.
I pulled out my owners manual and brandished the relevant page at him.
Surprisingly, he let me go.

William Robb



Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Oct 2003 at 18:50, Thrainn Vigfusson wrote:

 If you mean the Thordur Hermannsson born on the 21st of November 1955, then I'm
 afraid I don't know him, since he lives on the opposite side of the country. And
 I'm afraid we're not very related. Our nearest common ancestors are Thorarinn
 Jonsson (1630 - 1699) and Halldora Thorsteinsdottir (1630- ???)

Touché ;-)


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RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread tom
Don't worry about Adelheid, just keep an eye on Phyllis.

tv

 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 Who's going to protect her from tv.  He needs an assistant.
 
 Bill
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: pentax list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:17 PM
 Subject: Re: New to the list
 
 
  On 20/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
  
  Adelheid is coming too?
  
  Woo-Hoo!
  
  This is getting better and better all the time.
  
  vbg
  
  She's a real cutey, too.
  
  And has a sense of humour ;-)
  
  
  
  
  Cheers,
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RE:OT:Motorway exit photo collections-was: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread frank theriault
How many shots of motorway exits (we crass North Americans call them 
off-ramps, but I like motorway exits ever so much more, don't you?) does 
one require for it to be considered a collection, I wonder?

Probably not as many as you'd think.

But, to bring this back on-topic, wouldn't that make a marvelous PUG theme?  
(I shall now duck, in an attempt to avoid flying projectiles).

vbg

cheers,
frank


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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Anders Hultman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I took a couple of pictures of a motorway exit this weekend, actually.
Can't say I have a collection, though :-)
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RE: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread frank theriault
I'll join you.



The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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Re: New to the list

2003-10-20 Thread Steve Larson
Did Cotty fall apart again?
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


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Subject: RE: New to the list


 I'll join you.



 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
pessimist
 fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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RE: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, 
 and mentioning 
 how small your country's population is, reminds me of an 
 ongoing Canadian 
 joke about Americans.  It seems that almost every Canadian 
 I know tells a 
 story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out 
 we're from Canada, 
 they'll say Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've 
 met them.  Of 
 course the answer is:  Well, there are 35 million 
 Canadians, and Vancouver 
 is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins.

Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears.

They say you wear really tight shorts.

tv
 



Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread frank theriault
Who posted earlier in the week that in North America, 100 years is a long 
time, and in England (or was it Europe?), 100 miles is a long way?

Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we 
from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is 
where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in 
astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

A friend of mine's parents had some relative coming over from England for a
visit. This was when travelling by steamer was more common than by air, and
the relatives were going to be landing in Halifax.
The friends parents recieved a wire asking if they could meet the relatives
on a particular day, when the ship arrived.
What with being in Regina and all, they wired back, asking if the people in
England could meet them instead, as they were closer...
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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Jostein
- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we
 from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is
 where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

 That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in
 astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

Well, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but enemies...
We have some decent stretches of driving in my little country too, and the
distance itself is endurable. But UK traffic makes all of a difference.

cheers,
Jostein



Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread brooksdj
 Hi, Thrainn,
Welcome to the list. At times we can be very knowledgeable, and at 
minimal,entertaining,
at bestvbg

I too have just started with a used 6x7 and like it very much.I have been shooting 
E100vs
and some 
kodak neg film during the summer,but plan on doing Bw with it over the winter months.

Enjoy the emails.

Dave Brooks
  From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: New to the list
  Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 +
  
  Hi there,
  
  My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm
   Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I
   started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a
   MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the
   F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8
   Ex and the 400mm f5.6.
  
  I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning
   to use.
  
  I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days,
  but
  I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7.
  
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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Keith Whaley


frank theriault wrote:
 
 Who posted earlier in the week that in North America, 100 years is a long
 time, and in England (or was it Europe?), 100 miles is a long way?
 
 Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we
 from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is
 where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.
 
 That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in
 astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

You'd never GET there in a weekend!

keith whaley
 
 cheers,
 frank



Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we 
from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is 
where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in 
astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

Bloody hell! And I thought it was a long way to the chemist's...




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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

 Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we
 from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is
 where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

 That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in
 astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

Well, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but enemies...
We have some decent stretches of driving in my little country too, and the
distance itself is endurable. But UK traffic makes all of a difference.

Isn't there some little factoid somewhere about if you walk around the
entire boundary of Norway it's the same distance as from the Earth to the
moon? Bonus points if you find Slartibartfast's signature...




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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread graywolf
When I lived in Oklahoma I was always being asked if I knew someone or another 
in Detroit where I grew up. They never seemed to be able to understand that the 
Detroit metro area had 5 times as many people as the whole state of Oklahoma. It 
is really a matter of where folks are from (village, town, city, metro-area) as 
to how they look at such things, not what nationality they are.

In fact there are Canadian's who think Toronto, ON is 4000 miles from Vancouver, 
BC when it is in fact 2491.6 miles by road (according to the AAA MapGo 
software, shortist route). But what is 1500 miles between friends (GRIN)?

frank theriault wrote:

Hi, again,

Gee, Thrainn.  I was only joking.  Not about Bjork being smokin', which 
she is, but about whether you knew her.  I knew Iceland was a small 
place, I didn't know it's that small.

And, I know how to spell Icelandic, BTW (that was a type in the 
earlier post).

It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and 
mentioning how small your country's population is, reminds me of an 
ongoing Canadian joke about Americans.  It seems that almost every 
Canadian I know tells a story of visiting the US, and when the Americans 
find out we're from Canada, they'll say Oh, I have a cousin in 
Vancouver, maybe you've met them.  Of course the answer is:  Well, 
there are 35 million Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from 
Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins.

Enough rambling.  I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings 
anyway...  vbg

cheers,
frank


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pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New to the list
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:02 +
Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident.

I dont know Bjork personally. I've  only seen her a few times shopping 
and so
on.
The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or 
later you
see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the
other day.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread graywolf
Damn, these Canadians can't tell a Thomas Van Veen in the DC area, from a Thomas 
Rittenhouse in the NC Mountains either. That is understandable as we both have 
ancestors from Holland so are very hard to tell apart especially when one of us 
signs our posts tv and the other graywolf. That makes it really truely hard 
to tell the difference.

If I was paranoid I would think my name was being used as an insult. Then TV and 
I would have to beat he bunny ears off you. But I think you probably just had 
enough to drink and it is time you went to bed.

(GRIN)

frank theriault wrote:

Just you wait, Thomas Rittehouse!

vbg

-frank



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pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears.

They say you wear really tight shorts.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread graywolf
Some times it is. I'm going to the drug store, be back day after tomorrow, he 
told his wife as he fired up the airplane.

Cotty wrote:

On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:


Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that we 

from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is 

where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in 
astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...


Bloody hell! And I thought it was a long way to the chemist's...



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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Jostein
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Isn't there some little factoid somewhere about if you walk around the
 entire boundary of Norway it's the same distance as from the Earth to the
 moon? Bonus points if you find Slartibartfast's signature...

Dunno how long it really is, but the fiddlybits certainly add length to
the coastline.
Slartibartfast's signature would probably be drowned by some hydropower dam,
though...

This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the
northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim
the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a
country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-)

How far is London-Glasgow, really?

Jostein



RE: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
Bob Walkden wrote:

 TimeDistance InstructionRoadFor   
   Dir Toward
 09:00   0.0 Depart London, UK   A2021.4 km  W
 09:02   1.4 Turn left onto  A3022.3 km  W
 09:06   3.6 Go onto A5  1.8 km  NW
 09:09   5.5 Turn right onto A5205   0.8 km  E
 09:11   6.3 Turn left onto  A41 6.3 km  NW
 09:20   12.6Turn left onto  A406439 m   W
 09:21   13.0At Kingsbury, bear right onto   M1  122.0 
 kmW   Luton
 10:22   135.0   At M1-M6, turn left ontoM6  363.3 
 kmW   Coventry
 13:24   498.3   At Carlisle-North, go onto  A74 [E5], 
 [E18] 10.0 km W   Glasgow
 13:30   508.3   Go onto M74 [E5], 
 [E18] 13.3 km NW  Glasgow
 13:37   521.6   Go onto A74 [E5]  
   5.2 km  W   Glasgow
 13:41   526.7   Go onto M74 [E5]  
   18.7 km W   Glasgow
 13:50   545.4   Bear right onto A74 [E5]  
   30.1 km N   Glasgow
 14:09   575.5   Go onto A74-M [E5]
   11.7 km W   Glasgow
 14:15   587.2   At Abington, bear left onto M74 [E5]  
   47.3 km N   Glasgow
 14:39   634.5   At Birkenshaw, bear right onto  M73 [E5]  
   1.5 km  N   
 14:40   635.9   At Old Monkland, bear left onto M8 [E5] 14.6 
 km N   Glasgow
 14:41   636.7   Refuel before here: last refuel 636.7 
 kilometres ago
 14:48   650.5   At Glasgow-Centre, turn left onto A8  1.0 km  E
 14:49   651.6   Arrive Glasgow, UK  
 
 distances measured in the Napoleonic manner.

Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and misery,
and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then...

Malcolm




Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the
northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim
the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a
country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-)

How far is London-Glasgow, really?

About 3 1/2 six-packs of McEwan's (travelling south)




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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread mishka
you are kidding, right?
i am almost envisioning a large, mostly empty highway from Boston to NYC
( i guess that should count for major towns, eh? ).
I-95 that is. last time i went there (a few weeks ago), i got stuck in traffic
for almost two hours between stamford and pelhams. at 11pm.
and the same on the way back.
mishka

Thus Americans tend to envision major towns connected by large, mostly empty,
highways, while the English think in terms of narrow, winding roads, with
massive congestion on the few limited-access highways.




Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. 
I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population 
though.

Thrainn

On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:44, Jostein wrote:
 Hi, Thrainn.

 I completely forgot my manners here. Heartily welcome to the list. As you
 haev already noticed, off-topic issues are plentiful and benign on this
 list. :-)

 Your notes about genealogy brings a smile on my face. Norway's population
 is about 20 times yours, and it's still pretty common to get those do you
 know..., based on who you are, where your family is from etc.

 Iceland probably has the most complete population genealogy of all
 nations...
 -Just one little q, out of curiosity; how many generations do you need to
 go back before the whole of today's population is interrelated? :-)

 Jostein

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 - Original Message -
 From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:11 PM
 Subject: OT Re: New to the list

  I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to
  tell people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her.
 
  We get a lot of ...then you must know... questions here, mainly because

 the

  whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are

 or

  where you live, you can expect answers like My wife's cousin's husband's
  great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about

 her.

  BTW,  I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees
  of

 the

  entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few

 seconds,

  you can find out how you are related to anybody.
 
  On Sunday 19 October 2003 02:11, frank theriault wrote:
   Hi, again,
  
   Gee, Thrainn.  I was only joking.  Not about Bjork being smokin', which

 she

   is, but about whether you knew her.  I knew Iceland was a small place,
   I didn't know it's that small.
  
   And, I know how to spell Icelandic, BTW (that was a type in the

 earlier

   post).
  
   It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and

 mentioning

   how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing

 Canadian

   joke about Americans.  It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells

 a

   story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from
   Canada, they'll say Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met
   them.  Of course the answer is:  Well, there are 35 million
   Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't
   met your cousins.
  
   Enough rambling.  I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings

 anyway...

   vbg
  
   cheers,
   frank




Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Welcome.  In case you've missed it, the 6x7 users on the list are
refered to as the brotherhood.  I'm sure they are pleased to welcome
another true believer.


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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Keith Whaley


Cotty wrote:
 
 On 19/10/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:
 
 This summer a couple of hiking loonies took it on to walk from the
 northernmost point (North Cape) to the southernmost (Lindesnes). They claim
 the discance to be 2518 km. Not like US or Canada, but pretty good for a
 country that's stretched out in only one direction...:-)
 
 How far is London-Glasgow, really?
 
 About 3 1/2 six-packs of McEwan's (travelling south)

South? From where? The Arctic circle?

Oh, you must mean Glasgow-London!  g

- keith
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty



Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread graywolf
Yes, I always hear these little number games. Actually, since there always has 
been an immense amount of inbreding in human populations the number game is 
meaningless. I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even 
millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even 
indirectly. This number game is the same arithmetic that says you can never hit 
the wall you are driving toward at 100kph. You need to use a calculus not 
arithmetic for these kinds of problems.

In a small population like Iceland maybe most of the people whose families have 
lived there for several hundred years are interrelated, but 6 generations give 
512 ancestors. However many of those 512 ancestors can be the same person, if 
just 2 of your ancestors were related then there you only have 256 possible 
ancestors in 6 generations. In all likelihood in a population as small as 
Iceland many of ones ancestors were cousins, maybe only 5th or 6th cousins but 
that reduces the number of ancestors in ones family tree drastically.



Thrainn Vigfusson wrote:
You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. 
I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population 
though.

Thrainn

On Sunday 19 October 2003 20:44, Jostein wrote:

Hi, Thrainn.

I completely forgot my manners here. Heartily welcome to the list. As you
haev already noticed, off-topic issues are plentiful and benign on this
list. :-)
Your notes about genealogy brings a smile on my face. Norway's population
is about 20 times yours, and it's still pretty common to get those do you
know..., based on who you are, where your family is from etc.
Iceland probably has the most complete population genealogy of all
nations...
-Just one little q, out of curiosity; how many generations do you need to
go back before the whole of today's population is interrelated? :-)
Jostein

-
Pictures at: http://oksne.net
-
- Original Message -
From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: OT Re: New to the list

I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to
tell people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her.
We get a lot of ...then you must know... questions here, mainly because
the


whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are
or


where you live, you can expect answers like My wife's cousin's husband's
great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about
her.


BTW,  I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees
of
the


entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few
seconds,


you can find out how you are related to anybody.

On Sunday 19 October 2003 02:11, frank theriault wrote:

Hi, again,

Gee, Thrainn.  I was only joking.  Not about Bjork being smokin', which
she


is, but about whether you knew her.  I knew Iceland was a small place,
I didn't know it's that small.
And, I know how to spell Icelandic, BTW (that was a type in the
earlier


post).

It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and
mentioning


how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing
Canadian


joke about Americans.  It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells
a


story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from
Canada, they'll say Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met
them.  Of course the answer is:  Well, there are 35 million
Canadians, and Vancouver is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't
met your cousins.
Enough rambling.  I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings
anyway...


vbg

cheers,
frank




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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 19, 2003, 11:22:44 PM, you wrote:

 Chuck the first part of that journey, unless you like traffic and misery,
 and substitute with M11, A14, M6 then...

that was according to Bill Gates, so it must be correct! (Autoroute
software).

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Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Sunday, October 19, 2003, 11:44:33 PM, you wrote:

 You have to go back 6 or 7 generations for my whole nation to be interrelated. 
 I don't know haw far you have to go for the whole of earth's population 
 though.

 Thrainn

Mitochondrial 'Eve' lived about 150,000 years ago. That is about 6,000
generations ago.

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Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:20:30 AM, you wrote:

  I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even
 millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even 
 indirectly. [...]

congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread frank theriault
You seem out to get me these days, Tom!  vbg

I think 35 years of living in a metric/imperial hybrid system has finally 
taken it's toll.

How about 4000 km from Toronto to Vancouver?

I know it's 4000 ~miles~ (more or less, please don't correct me! vbg) from 
the Atlantic to Pacific.

BTW, I failed geography in grade 7.  Can you tell?

vbg

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
In fact there are Canadian's who think Toronto, ON is 4000 miles from 
Vancouver, BC when it is in fact 2491.6 miles by road (according to the 
AAA MapGo software, shortist route). But what is 1500 miles between 
friends (GRIN)?


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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread frank theriault
Damn it!!

It was (relatively) early on Sunday morning, I still hadn't finished my 
second cup of java (it takes three to wake up on weekends), and I saw Tom. 
 Or, should I say, tom.  So no, not too much to drink (not even a 
hangover), just insufficient caffiene.

Or was it last night?  I can't remember when I sent that post!  They all 
blend into one great big post after a while.  H.  If it was last night, 
I don't think I had too much to drink.  Just the right amount, IIRC...

As that obnoxious Stossel guy on 20/20 (an American newsmagazine show, for 
those of you from outside North America) would say, Gimme a break!

And now that I re-read my post, I see that not only did I get the wrong tom, 
I mis-spelled Rittenhouse.  Ach!!!  I quit!

ciao,
knarf


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Damn, these Canadians can't tell a Thomas Van Veen in the DC area, from a 
Thomas Rittenhouse in the NC Mountains either. That is understandable as we 
both have ancestors from Holland so are very hard to tell apart especially 
when one of us signs our posts tv and the other graywolf. That makes it 
really truely hard to tell the difference.

If I was paranoid I would think my name was being used as an insult. Then 
TV and I would have to beat he bunny ears off you. But I think you probably 
just had enough to drink and it is time you went to bed.

(GRIN)

frank theriault wrote:

Just you wait, Thomas Rittehouse!

vbg

-frank



The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The 
pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: tom [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Funny, all my Canadian friends know the bike guy in bunny ears.

They say you wear really tight shorts.

tv


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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread frank theriault
Well, I'm sure I'll be corrected by someone in the Mother Country if I'm 
wrong, but I think there are several express trains and a controlled access 
highway between London and Glascow, so that the travel time, either by train 
or car, is the same as it is between Montreal and Toronto.

I don't think it's as much about time, as it is about us North Americans 
being used to larger distances.  London to Glascow is the length of Britain. 
 Montreal to Toronto is a about 1/10th Canada from coast to coast.

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New to the list
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 15:19:53 -0400 (EDT)

 Whenever my ex' Irish relatives used to visit, they were astounded that 
we
 from Toronto thought nothing of heading off by car to Montreal (which is
 where all Torontonians have to go to have fun) for the weekend.

 That's about the same distance as London to Glascow!, they'd say in
 astonishment.  Seems that's a big trip round about those parts...

What these sort of comparisons usually forget to do is to allow for the
infrastructure differences in different parts of the world.  It's all too
easy to assume that the rest of the world is basically similar to your bit.
Thus Americans tend to envision major towns connected by large, mostly 
empty,
highways, while the English think in terms of narrow, winding roads, with
massive congestion on the few limited-access highways.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread John Francis
 
 you are kidding, right?
 i am almost envisioning a large, mostly empty highway from Boston to NYC
 ( i guess that should count for major towns, eh? ).

The Atlantic corridor is not representative of the US as a whole.  But the
point is that since the Eisenhower administration created the Interstate
Highway System (designed for an average road speed of 80Mph) travel by road
for long distances has been a reasonable low-cost option in the USA.

Try travelling along the A6 in the UK sometime.  That's one of the original
major road routes in the UK (hence the single-digit number).  For quite a
lot of it's length it is a two-lane road (not two lanes each way; two lanes
in total) with no overtaking.  Get stuck behind a slow-moving vehicle and
you'll be sitting there for miles.



Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread frank theriault
I've long had my suspicions about Thomas (before I hit send, I'd better 
check to make sure I've got Rittenhouse in my crosshairs this time! g).

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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To: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT Re: New to the list
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:40:27 +0100
congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us.

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OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
I already knew that.

BR

From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]

congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us.




Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread John Francis
 
 Well, I'm sure I'll be corrected by someone in the Mother Country if I'm 
 wrong, but I think there are several express trains and a controlled access 
 highway between London and Glascow, so that the travel time, either by train 
 or car, is the same as it is between Montreal and Toronto.
 
 I don't think it's as much about time, as it is about us North Americans 
 being used to larger distances.  London to Glascow is the length of Britain. 
   Montreal to Toronto is a about 1/10th Canada from coast to coast.

Oh, quite.  You can fit the UK inside California with room to spare.
(That's another 400 mile reference trip - Los Angeles to San Francisco)

But you can't really compare Canada to the UK for transport, anyway.
For a start Canada has been called a country three thousand miles long
and twenty miles wide.  That's a bit of an exaggeration, but it's hard
to have a route between large towns that doesn't use the main East-West
transport corridor.



Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread ernreed2
Thrainn Vigfusson posted:
 I thought you might be joking, but it's not often I get the chance to tell 
 people I saw Bjork shopping, since everybody here has also seen her.
  
 We get a lot of ...then you must know... questions here, mainly because the 
 whole nation is interested in genealogy. When you tell people who you are or 
 where you live, you can expect answers like My wife's cousin's husband's 
 great aunt used to live there in the fifties. Maybe you've heard about her.
 
 BTW,  I wasn't joking about the interest in genealogy. The family trees of 
the 
 entire nation (since about 1650) are available on the web. In a few seconds, 
 you can find out how you are related to anybody.
 

In that case, I'll play ... Long, long ago (the late 1970s) in a galaxy far 
away (the island of Jamaica) I went to school with an Icelandic fellow named 
Thordur Hermannsson (whose name I am no doubt misspelling) and his two sisters. 
Do you know them?

E.R.N.
Reed



Re: OT Re: New to the list

2003-10-19 Thread graywolf
I was speaking genealogically, not genetically. Of course every living thing on 
earth is genetically related, at least according to current theories.

Bob Walkden wrote:
Hi,

Monday, October 20, 2003, 12:20:30 AM, you wrote:


I have many thousands of ancestors, but not billions, or even
millions, and am certainly not related to everybody in the world even 
indirectly. [...]


congratulations, you must be a different species to the rest of us.

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You might as well accept people as they are,
you are not going to be able to change them anyway.



Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi there.

My name is Boris and I am from Israel grin.

Welcome to the list.

Boris



Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread Pat White
Hi, Thrainn, welcome to the list, and welcome to the Brotherhood of 6x7
owners.  I'm Pat, and I'm from Canada.

Brother Pat




RE: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread David Madsen
Hi Thrainn,

I, too, am new to the list.  From one newbie to another, welcome.  My name
is Dave and I am from the US.

Dave Madsen




Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Thrainn,

Icelanding, eh?  Do you know Bjork?  I think she's smokin'.

cheers,
frank


The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New to the list
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 +
Hi there,

My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm Icelandic
and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I started with an MX
and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along
with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the F100mm f2.8 macro, the
17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 Ex and the 400mm f5.6.
I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning to
use.
I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, 
but
I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7.

Thrainn


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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread frank theriault
But, seriously, Thrainn,

Welcome to the list.  A few things to know:

First, ignore everything I say.  It's all pretty much trivial spewings (can 
you feel all the heads nodding up and down in agreement as you read this?).

Second, you'll learn lots about photography in general, and Pentax 
specifically, here.  There are many very knowledgeable members on this list. 
 Over the years (kripes, it ~has~ been years, hasn't it? g) I think I've 
learned more about photorgraphy from this list that from any other source.

Third, your gear puts you in very fine company here.  I only wish I had a 
6x7 system.  You are now officially a member of The Brotherhood, which is 
what 6x7 owners have in all seriousness, dubbed themselves.  I believe that 
there will be an initiation ceremony at midnight tonight, and it involves 
mutilation of small animals (but I can't be sure, as I've not been an 
initiate, and insiders can't tell of the ceremony on pain of death).

And, lastly, Welcome Aboard!!

cheers,
frank from Toronto, Canada


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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





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Hi, Thrainn,

Icelanding, eh?  Do you know Bjork?  I think she's smokin'.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
On Saturday 18 October 2003 21:18, frank theriault wrote:
 Hi, Thrainn,

 Icelanding, eh?  Do you know Bjork?  I think she's smokin'.

 cheers,
 frank



 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
 pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





 From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: New to the list
 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 +
 
 Hi there,
 
 My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm
  Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I
  started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a
  MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the
  F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8
  Ex and the 400mm f5.6.
 
 I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning
  to use.
 
 I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days,
 but
 I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7.
 
 Thrainn

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread Thrainn Vigfusson
Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident.

I dont know Bjork personally. I've  only seen her a few times shopping and so 
on.
The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or later you 
see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the 
other day.

On Saturday 18 October 2003 21:18, frank theriault wrote:
 Hi, Thrainn,

 Icelanding, eh?  Do you know Bjork?  I think she's smokin'.

 cheers,
 frank



 The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The
 pessimist fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





 From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: New to the list
 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 17:00:59 +
 
 Hi there,
 
 My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm
  Icelandic and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I
  started with an MX and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a
  MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the
  F100mm f2.8 macro, the 17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8
  Ex and the 400mm f5.6.
 
 I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning
  to use.
 
 I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days,
 but
 I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7.
 
 Thrainn

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread graywolf
Welcome aboard.

If you stay awhile you will find that folks here are mainly interested in Pentax 
 cameras, but we talk about all kinds of other things. We try to stay away from 
politics and religion as they get kind of abusive sometimes. About the only real 
rule we have, and it is really just kind of a gentleman's agreement, is not to 
post comments about Ebay ads unless you are the seller. No one wants a lot of 
competition for something they have their eye on.

The guy who runs the list is Doug Brewer, he kind of volunteered to take over 
when Pentax USA decided to drop it for liability reasons, so we owe the 
continued existence of the list to him. He is a nice guy and not much into 
controlling the list. He only removes folks for bouncing e-mails, so don't let 
your server get backed up.

Hope you enjoy hanging out with us.





Thrainn Vigfusson wrote:
Hi there,

My name is Thrainn Vigfusson, and I joined the list recently. I'm Icelandic 
and have been using Pentax cameras for 25 years or so. I started with an MX 
and M 50mm f1.7 lens, but have since then bought a MZ-5n and a MZ-S, along 
with a bunch of lenses, e.g. the FA 24-90mm, the F100mm f2.8 macro, the 
17-28mm fisheye, and two Sigmas: The 70-200 f2.8 Ex and the 400mm f5.6. 

I got a used 6x7 two months ago with a 105mm f2.4 lens that I'm learning to 
use.

I mainly shoot landscape/nature photos with Velvia and Provia these days, but 
I plan to get back into black and white with the 6x7. 

Thrainn



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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread frank theriault
Hi, again,

Gee, Thrainn.  I was only joking.  Not about Bjork being smokin', which she 
is, but about whether you knew her.  I knew Iceland was a small place, I 
didn't know it's that small.

And, I know how to spell Icelandic, BTW (that was a type in the earlier 
post).

It's funny, but you saying that you've seen Bjork shopping, and mentioning 
how small your country's population is, reminds me of an ongoing Canadian 
joke about Americans.  It seems that almost every Canadian I know tells a 
story of visiting the US, and when the Americans find out we're from Canada, 
they'll say Oh, I have a cousin in Vancouver, maybe you've met them.  Of 
course the answer is:  Well, there are 35 million Canadians, and Vancouver 
is 4,000 miles from Toronto, so no I haven't met your cousins.

Enough rambling.  I've got to cut down on my off-topic ramblings anyway...  
vbg

cheers,
frank


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fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer





From: Thrainn Vigfusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New to the list
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2003 23:20:02 +
Sorry about the previous message. I hit the send button by accident.

I dont know Bjork personally. I've  only seen her a few times shopping and 
so
on.
The population of Iceland is only about 280 thousand, so sooner or later 
you
see everybody. For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the
other day.

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Re: New to the list

2003-10-18 Thread mishka
thank god america is much more populous! (that has nothing to do
with president of Iceland, you know)
mishka

For example, I met the president of Iceland at a kiosk the 
other day.




New to the list

2003-09-24 Thread Andre Albano
Hi there, I'm new in the list.

My name is André, I'm brazilian and I own a MZ-M (ZX-M) and a K1000 (that I
use most of the time). Besides it's weight I worship that camera.
I hope I can learn a lot here.

P.S.: Sorry about my english, sometimes I think it sounds terrible.


André



Re: New to the list

2003-09-24 Thread Chris Brogden

Hi, and welcome to the list.  Don't worry about your English.  It sounds
fine to me, and as long we can understand what you're saying it doesn't
matter how you say it.

The K1000 is a great simple camera, though I have to admit that I *like*
its heaviness.  Feels more sturdy to me.

chris


On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Andre Albano wrote:

 Hi there, I'm new in the list.

 My name is André, I'm brazilian and I own a MZ-M (ZX-M) and a K1000 (that I
 use most of the time). Besides it's weight I worship that camera.
 I hope I can learn a lot here.

 P.S.: Sorry about my english, sometimes I think it sounds terrible.


 André




Re: New to the list

2003-09-24 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi!

Welcome. Your English is just fine, at least from my (Israeli born in 
Russia) point of view. You're bound to have much fun with these 
fellows.

Boris

On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 13:13:44 -0700
 Andre Albano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there, I'm new in the list.

My name is André, I'm brazilian and I own a MZ-M (ZX-M) and a K1000 
(that I
use most of the time). Besides it's weight I worship that camera.
I hope I can learn a lot here.

P.S.: Sorry about my english, sometimes I think it sounds terrible.

André




Re: New to the list

2003-09-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

Hi there, I'm new in the list.

My name is André, I'm brazilian and I own a MZ-M (ZX-M) and a K1000 (that I
use most of the time). Besides it's weight I worship that camera.
I hope I can learn a lot here.


Hi André,

Welcome to the list.


P.S.: Sorry about my english, sometimes I think it sounds terrible.

No worries, nobody here can hear you.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: New to the list

2003-09-24 Thread frank theriault
Welcome aboard, Andre,

Your English is way better than my Portuguese!  (That's because I don't speak
Portuguese at all)  :-)

Besides, some of the worst English written here is from our members in
England.  Try reading some of Cotty's posts some time...  g

You'll have fun, and learn a lot too.  Nice to have you here.

cheers,
frank from Toronto, Canada

Andre Albano wrote:

 Hi there, I'm new in the list.

 My name is André, I'm brazilian and I own a MZ-M (ZX-M) and a K1000 (that I
 use most of the time). Besides it's weight I worship that camera.
 I hope I can learn a lot here.

 P.S.: Sorry about my english, sometimes I think it sounds terrible.

 André

--
Hell is others
-Jean Paul Sartre





New Pentax Price list (End of MZ-3)

2003-06-21 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
Hallo
on the German Pentax home page is a new price list (1.7.2003)
http://www.pentax.de/pentaxeurope/pentaxeurope_prod/pentaxeurope/v2/de/image
s/Preisliste_endverbraucher.pdf

In this price list are also the Optio 450, *ist and the FAJ lenses.

The following products are gone:
MZ-7, 330GS, FA 4-5.6/28-105 (from Tamron)

The following products will be stoped soon:
MZ-3,
FA 28-200, FA 85-Soft, A2.8 16 Fisheye, A3.5 15, K2.8 28 Shift
SMCA 645 2.8/55

There a still a lot of LX products in the list (viewfinder, gribs, screens,
..)

The FAJ lenses are very cheep in comparision to the former cheapest lenses
FAJ 28-8099 Euro (FA 28-80 179 Euro)
FAJ 75-300...149 Euro (FA 80-200 239 Euro)

regards
Rüdiger



Re: New Pentax Price list (End of MZ-3)

2003-06-21 Thread whickersworld
Rüdiger Neumann wrote:

The FAJ lenses are very cheep in comparision to the former
cheapest lenses
FAJ 28-8099 Euro (FA 28-80 179 Euro)
FAJ 75-300...149 Euro (FA 80-200 239 Euro)


Hi Rüdiger,

I have heard that the FAJ lenses are of the same generic
Tamron design
that is sold cheaply under the Nikon brand name as G
Series lenses.

If so, they will be very bad, both optically and in build
quality.

:-(

John



Re: Re : Who switched for Pentax ? (New in the list)

2002-12-12 Thread Lon Williamson
Good FOR YOU!.   We all know that EOS really stands for
Elitist Other Snot.  Grin.  I've never cared to air my boogers in
public.  The SMC 135 is a gem.  So is the M 50 1.4.  They
are both better lenses than I am a photographer, and I pack
both of these lenses most of the time.

-Lon

Pascal Guillaumet wrote:
 
 Hello everyone!
 
 I've been in the list for 1 week.
 I've semi switched back to Pentax, using the ME my father bought in 1976 and
 the SMC-M50/1.7 K that was mounted onto.
 
 I recently acquired the SMC 135/2.5 K (6 elements, 6 groups version) and the
 SMC-M 50/1.4 for 80 euros (approx. 80USD) for both.
 I 'm still waiting for the film to be developped to see if these lenses are
 lemons or not.
 (and I'm on a mint, almost new SMC-M 24/2.8 at a low price, below 50
 USD.)
 
 I must admit that using the ME with these lenses is a real pleasure, and I
 left more often my Canon EOS gear at home now.
 
 Regards,
 
 -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.bords-de-mer.com




Re : Who switched for Pentax ? (New in the list)

2002-12-11 Thread Pascal Guillaumet
Hello everyone!

I've been in the list for 1 week.
I've semi switched back to Pentax, using the ME my father bought in 1976 and
the SMC-M50/1.7 K that was mounted onto.

I recently acquired the SMC 135/2.5 K (6 elements, 6 groups version) and the
SMC-M 50/1.4 for 80 euros (approx. 80USD) for both.
I 'm still waiting for the film to be developped to see if these lenses are
lemons or not.
(and I'm on a mint, almost new SMC-M 24/2.8 at a low price, below 50
USD.)

I must admit that using the ME with these lenses is a real pleasure, and I
left more often my Canon EOS gear at home now.

Regards,

-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.bords-de-mer.com




Re: Re : Who switched for Pentax ? (New in the list)

2002-12-11 Thread Mark Roberts
Pascal Guillaumet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello everyone!

I've been in the list for 1 week.
I've semi switched back to Pentax, using the ME my father bought in 1976 and
the SMC-M50/1.7 K that was mounted onto.

I recently acquired the SMC 135/2.5 K (6 elements, 6 groups version) and the
SMC-M 50/1.4 for 80 euros (approx. 80USD) for both.
I 'm still waiting for the film to be developped to see if these lenses are
lemons or not.

Yikes! Neither one of those lenses is even *close* to being a lemon! You've
got two excellent optics there.

Welcome to the list.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com




Re: Re : Who switched for Pentax ? (New in the list)

2002-12-11 Thread Fred
 I recently acquired the SMC 135/2.5 K (6 elements, 6 groups
 version) and the SMC-M 50/1.4 for 80 euros (approx. 80USD) for
 both. I 'm still waiting for the film to be developped to see if
 these lenses are lemons or not.

Well,I can't say whether those particular samples you have are
lemons or not, but the K 135/2.5 and the M 50/1.4 are both very
good lens designs.

Fred





Re: new to the list

2002-11-25 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Glen O'Neal
Subject: RE: new to the list


 Ernst,

 Welcome to the list. Its nice to have you with us. Please
enjoy the engaging
 conversation and feel free to ask questions or offer advice
whenever you
 like.

And please, don't post in html.

William Robb




RE: new to the list

2002-11-24 Thread Glen O'Neal



Ernst,

Welcome to the list. Its nice to have you with us. Please enjoy the 
engaging conversation and feel free to ask questions or offer advice whenever 
you like. 

Welcome aboard,
Glen O'Neal

  -Original Message-From: Ernst Zerche 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 4:26 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: new to the 
  list
  
  Hi,
  after reading your messages on the list for 
  some time I eventually decided to join in. I hesitated because my English is 
  not so good, but I think you will be tolerant with an Austrian speaking 
  "Pentaxian".
  I started photography during my time as a 
  development worker abroad and my first camera in the early eighteens was a 
  Miranda Auto Sensorex EE, a gift of a good friend. On the way back home a 
  purchased my first Pentax, the medium format 6x7 in Hong Kong. By now I'm a Pentax enthusiast. 
  I like doing portraits, journey photography with my MZ-5n and Limited Lenses 
  and since two years with my LX as back up.
  I'm really impressed from the Limited Lenses. 
  I have made enlargements 50x70 from my slides and people, even the guy from my 
  favourite photo shop in town, asked me what kind of equipment I use, if it is 
  medium format. Then of course I confess proudly it is simply 35 mm Pentax 
  Limited!
  So I'm here, and I like this 
  community!


Re: new to the list

2002-11-23 Thread Kristian-H. Schuessler



To all PENTAXIAN: Please excuse me, if I'm not writing in 
English today.


Hallo Ernst,
 
ein herzliches "Grüß Gott" aus dem Schwarzwald - und wie Du siehst, kannst Du 
mit mir auch in Deutsch kommunizieren:

 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mit Mittelformat 6/7 habe ichkeine Erfahrung, nur in 
120/220 6/6
ROLLEI 2,8 E und MAMIYA C 33.

PENTAX Limited Lenses besitze ich leider auch nicht, aber eine 
LX, mit der ich gelegentlich arbeite (Journalist und Bildreporter, 64 Jahre 
alt), und dann habe ich mehrere PENTAX K2- und zwei K2 DMD-Gehäuse, die 
leider niemand mehr repariert, die also immer weniger werden.

Mit der ersten SPOTMATIC auf dem Markt bin ich von EDIXA 
auf PENTAX umgestiegen,
finanziell bitter war dann der Umstieg vom Schraubgewinde aufs 
Bajonett. Hatte ein Leben lang kein Zoom und keinen Autofocus 
benutzt.

Meine Objektive mit Bajonett F = 20  24  28 
 2x 35  MACRO 50 2x 85 105 
200 mm, im Laufe der Jahre angeschafft, natürlich nicht auf 
einmal.

Mit dem Alter wegen meiner schlechten Augen habe ich nun für 
Schwarz/weiß-Reportagen ein PENTAX 28-105
Zoom und ein MZ-3 Gehäuse angeschafft. Später noch ein 
SIGMA 60 - 200. Undnun akzeptierendie Redaktionen nur 
noch
Dateien und ich bin vor fünf Jahren zusätzlich noch mit 
Scanner und einer digitalen Camera eingestiegen. Das war eine sehr große 
Umstellung, vor allem, weil die Digitalen nicht schnell genug 
reagieren.

Alle guten Wünsche
"Gut Licht !"
Krstian-H. Schüssler

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ernst 
  Zerche 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 11:26 
  PM
  Subject: new to the list
  
  
  Hi,
  after reading your messages on the list for 
  some time I eventually decided to join in. I hesitated because my English is 
  not so good, but I think you will be tolerant with an Austrian speaking 
  “Pentaxian”.
  
  


Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread Cotty
Hi, Cotty,

As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer?  vbg

-frank

Cotty wrote:

 Hi Stephanie,

 Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently.

LOL! I'm on the digest. I shouldn't make time sensitive responses. 
Apologies.

Cotty


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Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread Dr E D F Williams
If the screws you are talking about are the three on the bottom plate they
are quite small. You'd need to drill holes for a screw extractor. You'd have
to make that -perhaps from a small (2 mm) square file? - without destroying
the threads. Of course it might be possible to re-tap the holes to 2 mm, but
I wouldn't like to try that. The original screws are 1,7 mm in diameter with
a threaded portion 2,5 mm long. Is there nothing left of the star at all?
Could you not get a sharp single bladed jewellers screwdriver (2 mm) into
what remains? To drill a hole for a screw extractor would be a very
difficult job.

When you do get the plate off how are you going to put it back? You'd need
to order new screws from Pentax. Incidentally you may be on the right track.
I think the mechanism that links mirror, shutter and cocking lever is simply
sticky. Most of this kind of trouble comes from two levers on the bottom of
the shaft not doing their job. Simple local CLA may be all that's needed.
Off course if the shutter is jamming its and entirely different kettle of
fish.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:35 AM
Subject: RE: new to the list, + a repair question


 everyone, thanks for all of your input.

 I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift
the
 shutter manually, and nothing has worked.  I decided to take the silly
thing
 apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning
 experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them
 out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will
 grip them.

 how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't
work?
 there's got to be a way.




  -Original Message-
  From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Stephanie Stiavetti
  Subject: new to the list, + a repair question
 
  I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem,
  unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot
  release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its
  sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening
  the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up
  spool.
  This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle.
  Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism
  into sequence.
 
  William Robb
 
 
   on to my question:  I recently acquired an old, very loved,
  Pentax ME
   Super SE.  the mirror is stuck in the up position and
  replacing the
   batteries hasn't fixed the problem.  I tried to gently
  dislodge the mirror
   and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops
  right back
   up.  neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are
   functioning.
 
 
 






Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

everyone, thanks for all of your input.

I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the
shutter manually, and nothing has worked.  I decided to take the silly thing
apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning
experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them
out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will
grip them.

how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work?
there's got to be a way.

Before you go any further you should  be aware that the cap on the pivot of
the wind lever (and the nut underneath it) is a left-hand thread, so you
have to turn it the reverse of the normal direction to loosen and remove it.
(Turn it CLOCKWISE to remove it, in other words.)

-- 
Mark Roberts
www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing




RE: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread gfen
On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Stephanie Stiavetti wrote:
 how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work?
 there's got to be a way.

Hammer.

-- 
http://www.infotainment.org   - more fun than a poke in your eye.
http://www.eighteenpercent.com- photography and portfolio.




Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread Dr E D F Williams
You can probably get it off if you wear a rubber glove to get a grip. A pair
of pliers is not a good idea.

Don

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question


 Stephanie Stiavetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 everyone, thanks for all of your input.
 
 I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift
the
 shutter manually, and nothing has worked.  I decided to take the silly
thing
 apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning
 experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take
them
 out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will
 grip them.
 
 how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't
work?
 there's got to be a way.

 Before you go any further you should  be aware that the cap on the pivot
of
 the wind lever (and the nut underneath it) is a left-hand thread, so you
 have to turn it the reverse of the normal direction to loosen and remove
it.
 (Turn it CLOCKWISE to remove it, in other words.)

 --
 Mark Roberts
 www.robertstech.com
 Photography and writing






Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-21 Thread Cotty
Silly question, but is the film rewind button jammed into the 'up' 
position? If so, this would inhibit winding on...

HTH

Cotty


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new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread Stephanie Stiavetti
I recently joined the list and have been watching your messages fly by at
light speed.  I figure now would be a good time to introduce myself.

I'm a photography enthusiast who recently started working toward an arts
degree, majoring in fine art/bw.  I've had a camera around my neck for
the past three years and am hoping to one day be able to make a living in
the darkroom.  hey, I can dream, right?

anyways, I'm happy to find a community of what seems to be like-minded
individuals.

on to my question:  I recently acquired an old, very loved, Pentax ME
Super SE.  the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the
batteries hasn't fixed the problem.  I tried to gently dislodge the mirror
and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back
up.  neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are
functioning.

any ideas?  the camera was free, so throwing a few bucks at it won't be a
problem, or if there's a way that I (being fairly mechanically adept) can
repair it myself that would be great also.

~sjs




- And I'm floating in a most peculiar way
- And the stars look very different today








Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread Cotty
Hi Stephanie,

Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently.

Cheers!

Cotty in the UK


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Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Cotty,

As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer?  vbg

-frank

Cotty wrote:

 Hi Stephanie,

 Welcome aboard. Somone knowledgable will answer your questions presently.


--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
One of the resons for the mirror not coming down, is that the thing that was
supposed to happen before the mirror drops, didn't happen. The thing that
has to happen first is that the shutter has to close. It may look like it's
down (rear curtain), but it may not be all the way down (I had this happen
with a Program Plus). I know of two ways to un jam it. The first is to hold
the camera in one hand, and smack the bottom of it into the heel of your
other hand. The other way is to lift the shutter curtain (leaves) and let
them drop back down. You can use a toothpick or a thin pick to lift it.

BR

From: Stephanie Stiavetti
...the mirror is stuck in the up position and replacing the
batteries hasn't fixed the problem.  I tried to gently dislodge the mirror
and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops right back
up.  neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are
functioning.






Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
Well, if the jam is due to the shutter cycle not finishing, then it may not
apply since the MX has a completly different shutter than the ME Super.

BR

From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi, Cotty,

As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer?  vbg

-frank






Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread frank theriault
Hi, Bruce,

I know (that's why I put the little disclaimer in there) that the shutters are
different.  I just thought it was a cheap and easy thing to try.  Wouldn't
hurt, although might not help either.

My response to Cotty was just a joke...  vbg

cheers,
frank

Bruce Rubenstein wrote:

 Well, if the jam is due to the shutter cycle not finishing, then it may not
 apply since the MX has a completly different shutter than the ME Super.

 BR

 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi, Cotty,

 As opposed to my well reasoned (if brief) answer?  vbg

 -frank

--
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist
fears it is true. -J. Robert
Oppenheimer





Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Stephanie Stiavetti
Subject: new to the list, + a repair question

I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem,
unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot
release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its
sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening
the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up
spool.
This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle.
Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism
into sequence.

William Robb


 on to my question:  I recently acquired an old, very loved,
Pentax ME
 Super SE.  the mirror is stuck in the up position and
replacing the
 batteries hasn't fixed the problem.  I tried to gently
dislodge the mirror
 and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops
right back
 up.  neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are
 functioning.





RE: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread Stephanie Stiavetti
everyone, thanks for all of your input.

I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's advice to lift the
shutter manually, and nothing has worked.  I decided to take the silly thing
apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a learning
experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried to take them
out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no screwdriver will
grip them.

how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a screwdriver won't work?
there's got to be a way.




 -Original Message-
 From: William Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: new to the list, + a repair question



 - Original Message -
 From: Stephanie Stiavetti
 Subject: new to the list, + a repair question

 I tried to get one of my ME Supers to repeat your problem,
 unsuccessfully. If the mirror is locked up, but you cannot
 release the shutter, then the mechanism has come out of its
 sequence. You could try to finish advancing the film by opening
 the camera back and rolling the sprocket towards the take up
 spool.
 This might cause the shutter to complete it's cycle.
 Or, you could paddle its bottom, that might jar the mechanism
 into sequence.

 William Robb


  on to my question:  I recently acquired an old, very loved,
 Pentax ME
  Super SE.  the mirror is stuck in the up position and
 replacing the
  batteries hasn't fixed the problem.  I tried to gently
 dislodge the mirror
  and it will move back to the down position, but then it pops
 right back
  up.  neither the shutter release or the film advance lever are
  functioning.







Re: new to the list, + a repair question

2002-11-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Stephanie Stiavetti
Subject: RE: new to the list, + a repair question


 everyone, thanks for all of your input.

 I tried both of the suggestions below, as well as bruce's
advice to lift the
 shutter manually, and nothing has worked.  I decided to take
the silly thing
 apart (hell, it was free, and if nothing else it would be a
learning
 experience) but two of the screws are stuck and whoever tried
to take them
 out before me destroyed the top of the screws so that no
screwdriver will
 grip them.

 how on earth do you get these tiny things out when a
screwdriver won't work?
 there's got to be a way.

A drill.
For the screws that are in good shape, put the screwdriver onto
the screw and tap it lightly with a hard object, such as a tack
hammer. This will loosen the screw so it can be removed. There
are no user servicable parts inside the ME-Super, but you may
have fun dismantleing it.


William Robb





New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread Scott Nelson

Hi everyone,

I've just joined the PDML.  I've been reading it for a little while, but now
I decided to take the plunge.  I live in Vancouver, BC, and I've only been
doing photography for just under a year.  I'm also an avid mountaineer, rock
climber and backcountry skier, so most of my photography tends to be very
outdoor oriented.  If anyone is interested in seeing some of my work, I've a
a few photos up on www.bivouac.com, a canadian mountaineering website.  You
will have to join the site as a member to see them though.  I'm looking
forward to hearing from all of you, especially those in the Vancouver area.

-Scott
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Re: New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread kleickly

Greetings and welcome!

You certainly live in a beautiful place.  I've been there several times and 
was overwhelmed by the breathtaking scenery everywhere.  My daughter lives in 
the Pacific NW, so I try to get up to BC whenever I go to visit.  She keeps 
telling me I have to go to Whistler (one of her favorite places), but haven't 
have a chance as yet.

Enjoy the list.  Looking forward to seeing your photos in the PUG.

Kathy L
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Re: New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread James Adams

Scott
Good Morning , and welcome to the group. I live in Richmond, BC, so It's
great to have another PDML'r in the area. BTW what equipment do you use?
James
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Re: New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Welcome, Scott.
You'll enjoy this group.
It's colorful.  (Or is that colourful?)



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Re: New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread Cotty

Hi Scott,

Welcome aboard.

If you've been reading it for a while, you won't need telling that it's a 
very good bunch of people here. It's even better contributing, cos all of 
a sudden the most amazing range of opinions come plopping into your In 
Box and you soon find yourself sat more getting a typing RSI instead of 
'Winder's Finger' or 'Finder's Eye' :-)

Enjoy.

Cotty
I've just joined the PDML.  I've been reading it for a little while, but now
I decided to take the plunge.  I live in Vancouver, BC, and I've only been
doing photography for just under a year.  I'm also an avid mountaineer, rock
climber and backcountry skier, so most of my photography tends to be very
outdoor oriented.  If anyone is interested in seeing some of my work, I've a
a few photos up on www.bivouac.com, a canadian mountaineering website.  You
will have to join the site as a member to see them though.  I'm looking
forward to hearing from all of you, especially those in the Vancouver area.

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Re: New to the list

2002-05-10 Thread Scott Nelson

Pentax Stuff:
MZ5n
FA28-70 f/4
A50 f/1.7
FA 80-200 f/4.7-5.6
and I just bought a K 24 f/2.8 on ebay the other day.

Non Pentax stuff:
Manfrotto 190CL + 352RC ballhead
various UV filters, Polarizers, etc.
-Scott

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 Scott
 Good Morning , and welcome to the group. I live in Richmond, BC, so It's
 great to have another PDML'r in the area. BTW what equipment do you use?
 James
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Re: New to the list

2001-04-16 Thread Rapture


Hi Eddie, welcome to the list.  I believe there are lurkers from both 
Malaysia and Singapore but its
good to hear from you.  I saw your three pics, love them.  Good patience 
there :)
I am now in Taiwan and Taiwan seems to import quite a substantial amount of 
MZ-3 Limited Black body
package(with 43mm).  Some Shops still have them and seems that no one wants 
to buy them.
I have checked with Cathay Photo and a couple others and they have no 
stock.  And Damn, you have
both lenses, envy!  Are you gonna get the 31mm Limited also?  Should be out 
in these 2 or 3 months.
MZ-S should be out in May over here.  Will email you separately once i get 
more time. Ciaos.

Jason


At 11:25 AM 4/12/2001 +0700, you wrote:
Hi All,
I have just subscribe to the list and discovered the images at PUG!! Very 
nice!!
I do mostly macrophotography and dabbled in some UV reflectance images. They
can be seen at http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/windows/htmls/index9.htm
showing macro shots of palm flowers not fruits as captioned. When I got my
LX about 3-4 years ago, I sold off a lot of other equipment to purchase it
and did not regret it at all. Since then I acquired the PZ1 SE, the
43mmf1.9, 77mm f1.8 ...I don't know when this acquisition is going to end!!
I have heard that MZ3 and the two lenses above now comes in black. Have not
seen it yet!! The silver chrome ones complements my PZ1 very well. These
lenses are beautiful and sharp!!
Regards to all
Eddie


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Re: New to the list

2001-04-12 Thread S B Teoh

Will consider sending some images to the gallery
after reading how to do it. My images have to be
rescanned or scaled down to meet the requirements.
I must add I visited the gallery again and enjoyed
it tremendously!! 

Best Wishes
Eddie





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Re: New to the list

2001-04-12 Thread Rfsindg

Welcome Eddie,

I saw your photos over at the site you mentioned, so you know how it works.  
Scaling stuff down is a simple resizing in almost anybody's software package. 
 You'll have a welcome audience for whatever you post.

Regards,  Bob S.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Will consider sending some images to the gallery
 after reading how to do it. My images have to be
 rescanned or scaled down to meet the requirements.
 I must add I visited the gallery again and enjoyed
 it tremendously!! 
 
 Best Wishes
 Eddie 
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Re: New to the list

2001-04-12 Thread William Robb

Well thank you. All of us at the PUG are quite proud of the
response it recieves.
http://pug.komkon.org/general/submit.html
has submission guidelines
http://pug.komkon.org/general/themes.html
has the upcoming themes listed.
Thanks
William Robb
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 Will consider sending some images to the gallery
 after reading how to do it. My images have to be
 rescanned or scaled down to meet the requirements.
 I must add I visited the gallery again and enjoyed
 it tremendously!!

 Best Wishes
 Eddie


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Re: New to the list

2001-04-11 Thread S B Teoh

Hi All,
I have just subscribe to the list and discovered the images at PUG!! Very nice!!
I do mostly macrophotography and dabbled in some UV reflectance images. They
can be seen at http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/windows/htmls/index9.htm
showing macro shots of palm flowers not fruits as captioned. When I got my
LX about 3-4 years ago, I sold off a lot of other equipment to purchase it
and did not regret it at all. Since then I acquired the PZ1 SE, the
43mmf1.9, 77mm f1.8 ...I don't know when this acquisition is going to end!!
I have heard that MZ3 and the two lenses above now comes in black. Have not
seen it yet!! The silver chrome ones complements my PZ1 very well. These
lenses are beautiful and sharp!!
Regards to all
Eddie

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New guy on list with question

2001-03-05 Thread Ohmymywldthg
Hello everybody from Mark W. in Silverton, OR. USA I got a question and a 
need I have bought a Pentax angle finder of about the spotmatic generation it 
works great but I can't figure out the focus? My eyes seem to compensate for 
where ever I turn it. If any body on the list knows of a site with the manual 
for this finder or would have one and could send me a scan I would be 
eternally grateful and you could have my first born (by the way he's 16 and 
wants to drive LOL)


Re: New guy on list with question

2001-03-05 Thread Alan Chan

Hello everybody from Mark W. in Silverton, OR. USA I got a question and a
need I have bought a Pentax angle finder of about the spotmatic generation 
it
works great but I can't figure out the focus? My eyes seem to compensate 
for
where ever I turn it. If any body on the list knows of a site with the 
manual
for this finder or would have one and could send me a scan I would be
eternally grateful and you could have my first born (by the way he's 16 and
wants to drive LOL)

The angle finder should be adjusted without any lens attached. If the focus 
is correct, the mircoprism on the screen would be very sharp.

regards,
Alan Chan

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