Re: PESO: butterfly season started
Wow - great *camouflage* on his wing! beautiful shot ann On 4/14/2021 3:00 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, but now I see more butterflies coming. I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are quite restless. https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55 Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- ann sanfedele photography https://annsan.smugmug.com https://www.cafepress.com/+ann-sanfedele+gifts https://www.lulu.com/spotlight/annsan https://www.createphotocalendars.com/Shop/annsanfedelecalendarsandbooks -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: butterfly season started
The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, but now I see more butterflies coming. I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are quite restless. https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55 Henk -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: butterfly season started
Nice catch! On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 09:00, Henk Terhell wrote: > > The temperature in this spring has for the most part been low here, but > now I see more butterflies coming. > I catched an orange tip (Anthocharis cardamines) which usually are quite > restless. > > https://flic.kr/p/2kSNF55 > > Henk > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List > To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Butterfly
Nice catch and fine image. Try here for id: https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/exhibits/butterfly-rainforest/id-guide/orange/ Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:52 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. > Shot with the bigma 50-500 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album- > 72157700185090275/ > > I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to the DA > 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think this one ended > up being the best of the series. > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Butterfly
Thanks Henk, that was also Walt's guess on facebook, since it was found in close proximity to my passiflora, that makes some sense. Henk Terhell wrote on 8/14/18 12:30 AM: wiki english: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_fritillary Op 2018-08-14 om 09:28 schreef Henk Terhell: Nice pics and butterfly. Search for similar photos in Flickr (a handy utility) led me to Gulf fritillary or passion butterfly (Agraulis vanillae), see wiki: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agraulis_vanillae Henk Op 2018-08-14 om 07:52 schreef Larry Colen: I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. Shot with the bigma 50-500 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album-72157700185090275/ I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to the DA 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think this one ended up being the best of the series. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Butterfly
wiki english: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_fritillary Op 2018-08-14 om 09:28 schreef Henk Terhell: Nice pics and butterfly. Search for similar photos in Flickr (a handy utility) led me to Gulf fritillary or passion butterfly (Agraulis vanillae), see wiki: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agraulis_vanillae Henk Op 2018-08-14 om 07:52 schreef Larry Colen: I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. Shot with the bigma 50-500 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album-72157700185090275/ I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to the DA 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think this one ended up being the best of the series. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Butterfly
Nice pics and butterfly. Search for similar photos in Flickr (a handy utility) led me to Gulf fritillary or passion butterfly (Agraulis vanillae), see wiki: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agraulis_vanillae Henk Op 2018-08-14 om 07:52 schreef Larry Colen: I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. Shot with the bigma 50-500 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album-72157700185090275/ I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to the DA 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think this one ended up being the best of the series. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Butterfly
On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 22:52:48 -0700 Larry Colen wrote: > I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. > Shot with the bigma 50-500 > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album-72157700185090275/ nice. i can't help you with the id but i'm sure there are many online sites... > I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to > the DA 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think > this one ended up being the best of the series. can you post a shot taken with the 55-300 for comparison? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Butterfly
I have no idea what sort, he was hanging out in my yard yesterday. Shot with the bigma 50-500 https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/30156958808/in/album-72157700185090275/ I actually felt like I was getting better shots when I switched to the DA 55-300, better magnification at the close end, but I think this one ended up being the best of the series. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/collections/72157612824732477/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly Dreaming
glad you took the risk - very nice ann On 7/23/2016 10:25 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote: This one is a bit risky, I think. It is not sharp. It is doubtful if there was a particular subject. It is in "portrait" format but there is absolutely no portrait. It is not shot with a "Pentax" camera or lens. I submit it here only because I liked it. (In fact, I was about to delete it and all of a sudden I have decided to work on it). https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/butterfly-dreaming/ Ricoh GXR A12, M module, Voigtlander Heliar 75mm. Thanks for reading this much! Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly Dreaming
FWIW I like it. Cheers, Dave > On Jul 24, 2016, at 2:25 AM, Bulent Celasunwrote: > > This one is a bit risky, I think. > > It is not sharp. > It is doubtful if there was a particular subject. > It is in "portrait" format but there is absolutely no portrait. > It is not shot with a "Pentax" camera or lens. > > I submit it here only because I liked it. > (In fact, I was about to delete it and all of a sudden I have decided > to work on it). > > https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/butterfly-dreaming/ > > Ricoh GXR A12, M module, Voigtlander Heliar 75mm. > > Thanks for reading this much! > > Bulent > > - > http://patoloji.gen.tr > http://celasun.wordpress.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ > http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly Dreaming
Let me see my ophtalmologist first :) Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2016-07-23 18:54 GMT+03:00 Bob Sullivan: > I think you need a better camera and lens. :-) Regards, Bob S. > > On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Bulent Celasun > wrote: >> This one is a bit risky, I think. >> >> It is not sharp. >> It is doubtful if there was a particular subject. >> It is in "portrait" format but there is absolutely no portrait. >> It is not shot with a "Pentax" camera or lens. >> >> I submit it here only because I liked it. >> (In fact, I was about to delete it and all of a sudden I have decided >> to work on it). >> >> https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/butterfly-dreaming/ >> >> Ricoh GXR A12, M module, Voigtlander Heliar 75mm. >> >> Thanks for reading this much! >> >> Bulent >> >> - >> http://patoloji.gen.tr >> http://celasun.wordpress.com/ >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ >> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly Dreaming
I think you need a better camera and lens. :-) Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Bulent Celasunwrote: > This one is a bit risky, I think. > > It is not sharp. > It is doubtful if there was a particular subject. > It is in "portrait" format but there is absolutely no portrait. > It is not shot with a "Pentax" camera or lens. > > I submit it here only because I liked it. > (In fact, I was about to delete it and all of a sudden I have decided > to work on it). > > https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/butterfly-dreaming/ > > Ricoh GXR A12, M module, Voigtlander Heliar 75mm. > > Thanks for reading this much! > > Bulent > > - > http://patoloji.gen.tr > http://celasun.wordpress.com/ > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ > http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Butterfly Dreaming
This one is a bit risky, I think. It is not sharp. It is doubtful if there was a particular subject. It is in "portrait" format but there is absolutely no portrait. It is not shot with a "Pentax" camera or lens. I submit it here only because I liked it. (In fact, I was about to delete it and all of a sudden I have decided to work on it). https://celasun.wordpress.com/2016/07/22/butterfly-dreaming/ Ricoh GXR A12, M module, Voigtlander Heliar 75mm. Thanks for reading this much! Bulent - http://patoloji.gen.tr http://celasun.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - butterfly
Nice shot, Igor - I wish I saw more monarchs. I can spend days in remote fields and never see them at all and then go into Chicago and they are all over the place (in the summer of course, not now...) No need t motion stopping spray - just follow them around till they decide to take a break (which for a butterfly is about 30 seconds of inactivity)... Mark On 1/31/2015 1:26 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I am not completely satisfied with this photo: I didn't have much time to shoot it (and I didn't have the magic motion-stopping spray like Mark C. and a few others have), as I had other obligations, and only a minute or two for these shots. I should've closed down the aperture father, instead of keeping it at 4.0 (on 50-135/2.8) to enhance the DOF, making wings being completely in focus. Anyway, enjoy! http://42graphy.org/misc/butterfly_IR23812.jpg All comments and suggestions are welcome! Igor --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - butterfly
Not bad at all. Live butterfly shots are difficult. I see the Monarch numbers are on the up after interventions by the conservationists. Alan C -Original Message- From: Igor PDML-StR Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:26 AM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - butterfly I am not completely satisfied with this photo: I didn't have much time to shoot it (and I didn't have the magic motion-stopping spray like Mark C. and a few others have), as I had other obligations, and only a minute or two for these shots. I should've closed down the aperture father, instead of keeping it at 4.0 (on 50-135/2.8) to enhance the DOF, making wings being completely in focus. Anyway, enjoy! http://42graphy.org/misc/butterfly_IR23812.jpg All comments and suggestions are welcome! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - butterfly
I am not completely satisfied with this photo: I didn't have much time to shoot it (and I didn't have the magic motion-stopping spray like Mark C. and a few others have), as I had other obligations, and only a minute or two for these shots. I should've closed down the aperture father, instead of keeping it at 4.0 (on 50-135/2.8) to enhance the DOF, making wings being completely in focus. Anyway, enjoy! http://42graphy.org/misc/butterfly_IR23812.jpg All comments and suggestions are welcome! Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly
One of the more impressive butterfly shots I've seen. Well composed, clean image. Jack - Original Message - From: David Mann dmann...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 8:20:40 PM Subject: PESO: Butterfly Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly
I spend a lot of time chasing butterflies with my camera, usually to no good effect. That is a fine butterfly portrait! I believe it is a male Varied Eggfly: http://www.ozanimals.com/Insect/Varied-Eggfly/Hypolimnas/bolina.html Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly
The long shadow adds an interesting dimension that helps to lift this beyond the norm. Nicely done. I'm a fan. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly
Hi Dave: It’s a very pretty specimen, but I’m going disagree with Bruce a bit; I find the shadow a bit distracting—but maybe I’m just wrong :-. Still, having tried for butterflies, I know how difficult it is and you got a good one here. Cheers, Christine On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Bruce bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: The long shadow adds an interesting dimension that helps to lift this beyond the norm. Nicely done. I'm a fan. -- Bruce Sent from my iPad On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly
I knew someone would ID it, thanks for that. I've updated the description to add that link. Thanks to everyone who commented. I thought the shadow might provoke differing opinions :) The butterflies in the display were pretty tame and were quite happy to land on people so getting close was easier than usual. The hard part was finding ones that were settling in a good place and remaining still. Cheers, Dave On Nov 8, 2014, at 3:08 am, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: I spend a lot of time chasing butterflies with my camera, usually to no good effect. That is a fine butterfly portrait! I believe it is a male Varied Eggfly: http://www.ozanimals.com/Insect/Varied-Eggfly/Hypolimnas/bolina.html Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:20 PM, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Butterfly
Don't ask me what species :) http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/825/#peso Taken at the butterfly exhibit at Melbourne Zoo. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush
It seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post. MARK! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - Subject: Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Looks like a bee bush to me! More seriously, is that heavily cropped or out-of-focus or what? It seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Looks like a bee bush to me! More seriously, is that heavily cropped or out-of-focus or what? It seems a bit fuzzier than the pictures you usually post. -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Butterfly Bush
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush
I like that, Dan. Our butterfly bush is a non-starter this year, an apparent victim of the unusual spring we had. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO: Butterfly Bush
Lovely! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: July 13, 2013 7/13/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly Bush
Thanks, Bruce! We have several butterfly bushes, and they are all thriving in the wet humid weather. We have some butterflies already, but very few hummers so far. I have always had difficulty photographing butterfly bushes, partly because one end is turning brown before the other end has burst into bloom. This was one of the best set of blooms that wasn't too high on the bush to be reached. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: I like that, Dan. Our butterfly bush is a non-starter this year, an apparent victim of the unusual spring we had. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Frank. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:41 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Lovely! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: July 13, 2013 7/13/13 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17461377 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 25, 2012, at 2:38 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: My favourite butterfly! They really like that flower up here, too. It's lovely to see them on it because the colours work so well together. Yes they like it here too, but the flowers on our bush are white. It also attracts a few yellow admirals. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very, very nice composition and interplay of colors, Dan. Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nicely sharp and defined, Dan. Shame the background is a tad busy, but good anyway. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice. What lens did you use? On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Nicely sharp and defined, Dan. Shame the background is a tad busy, but good anyway. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice, good composition and focus. Flowers look good too. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quite lovely Dan, and pleasantly sharp. If possible, I might crop a little off the right side to minimize distraction in the background. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:26:24 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush Message-ID: caomwt1xlqcimk2x04kbtvv8xj9ptpvr6o+cwbnenm+7gedu...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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ge ye to the stock agency... nice field guide worthy shot, dan... I think that is purple loosestrife, yes? (the plant, not the flutterbye of course) ann On 9/24/2012 11:26, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 24, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Nice photo. I particularly like the way you are getting away from your normal centered, static feeling composition. The shape of the flowers and butterfly making a ring around the center draw the eye nicely. Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Bruce, Steven, Bob, Don, Ann and Larry, for you kind comments. The plant is a butterfly bush (Buddleja). The lens was my smc DA 28-135 f3.5-5.6 AL [IR] DC WR. That's what it says on the lens; I have no idea what all the letters mean. G This bush is quite large, and the butterflies move so quickly that I have only been able to catch them with a zoom lens, and this one seems to have the most appropriate range of focal lengths for that purpose. I did crop it a bit, to remove a dead blossom, but I think I will go back to the original file and try a slightly different crop, using your suggestions. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Sep 24, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Nice photo. I particularly like the way you are getting away from your normal centered, static feeling composition. The shape of the flowers and butterfly making a ring around the center draw the eye nicely. Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-09-24 10:02 Ann Sanfedele wrote I think that is purple loosestrife, yes? it's genus Buddleja, aka butterfly bush (i grow a xeric, spring flowering variety, Buddleja alternifolia) On 9/24/2012 11:26, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 a pleasant shot; shooting from a little higher might have brought a bit of the nicely-contrasting bright green above the butterfly -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks, Steve. It is a big bush. I would have needed my big ladder to get a higher angle. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 6:42 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: on 2012-09-24 10:02 Ann Sanfedele wrote I think that is purple loosestrife, yes? it's genus Buddleja, aka butterfly bush (i grow a xeric, spring flowering variety, Buddleja alternifolia) On 9/24/2012 11:26, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 a pleasant shot; shooting from a little higher might have brought a bit of the nicely-contrasting bright green above the butterfly -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My favourite butterfly! They really like that flower up here, too. It's lovely to see them on it because the colours work so well together. Love this shot! Sharp, well composed, beautiful colours. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: September 24, 2012 9/24/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly Bush http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16480535 Comments are invited Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: Butterfly on the wing
That's a very nice and dreamy capture! Toine On 7 August 2012 02:20, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ K-x, Promaster 70-300, f/5.6, 1/160, ISO 100 Comments and suggestions eagerly accepted as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: Butterfly on the wing
Hi all, It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ K-x, Promaster 70-300, f/5.6, 1/160, ISO 100 Comments and suggestions eagerly accepted as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-08-06 18:20 Walt Gilbert wrote It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ that's a milestone i haven't reached; lots of bees, but butterflies are harder it seems your butterfly lives in a chaotic dreamworld -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doesn't have to be super-sharp in my books. I think it's gorgeous. That bokeh is beautiful and helps the apparent sharpness of the insect. I think the composition is just fine. Overall a wonderful photo! Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: August 6, 2012 8/6/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly on the wing Hi all, It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ K-x, Promaster 70-300, f/5.6, 1/160, ISO 100 Comments and suggestions eagerly accepted as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you so much, Frank! I think the thing that bothers me most about the photo is the fact that I know I can do it now, and have to do it better next time. :-/ -- Walt On 8/6/2012 9:39 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Doesn't have to be super-sharp in my books. I think it's gorgeous. That bokeh is beautiful and helps the apparent sharpness of the insect. I think the composition is just fine. Overall a wonderful photo! Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com Sent: August 6, 2012 8/6/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Butterfly on the wing Hi all, It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ K-x, Promaster 70-300, f/5.6, 1/160, ISO 100 Comments and suggestions eagerly accepted as always. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/6/2012 8:53 PM, steve harley wrote: on 2012-08-06 18:20 Walt Gilbert wrote It's not exactly the sharpest or best composed photo, but I finally managed to capture my first shot of a butterfly on the wing and just felt the need to share. http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/7729383422/ that's a milestone i haven't reached; lots of bees, but butterflies are harder it seems your butterfly lives in a chaotic dreamworld Yeah, that's pretty much sums up my world. -- Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: butterfly/moth
In a message dated 10/3/2009 10:52:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, pdml.l...@gmail.com writes: hi, had recently picked up a russian-made jupiter-11a 135/4 in m42 mount. was trying it out in the backyard today and this fellow stayed still long enough for me to get this. slightly cropped from the original: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5388617646868627298 k10d, jupiter-11a 135mm @f4, digikam appreciate your comments, regards, subash == I'd tone down the highlights on the leaf a little, distracting, but a very nice close up. Very close up. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Subash pdml.l...@gmail.com wrote: hi, had recently picked up a russian-made jupiter-11a 135/4 in m42 mount. was trying it out in the backyard today and this fellow stayed still long enough for me to get this. slightly cropped from the original: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5388617646868627298 k10d, jupiter-11a 135mm @f4, digikam appreciate your comments, regards, subash Nice! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO: butterfly/moth
hi, had recently picked up a russian-made jupiter-11a 135/4 in m42 mount. was trying it out in the backyard today and this fellow stayed still long enough for me to get this. slightly cropped from the original: http://picasaweb.google.co.in/pdml.live/Peso#5388617646868627298 k10d, jupiter-11a 135mm @f4, digikam appreciate your comments, regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly
This is really quite clever. David Savage wrote: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:13 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Very cool!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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weeiird... :-) Well executed, Dave. Jostein 2008/8/14 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Aug 14, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Cotty wrote: On 14/8/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Clever shot. Nice arse. Can't argue with that analysis. BTW- is this a grab shot, or was it posed? Either way, it has these tired eyes crossing. In a good way. Cheers Beaker -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave I like it very much :) Was it PSed or the walls painted like this there? .t -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2008/8/14 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave I like it very much :) Thanks mate. Was it PSed or the walls painted like this there? It was PS'd to get the look I wanted, but the walls are painted with that pattern. Thanks for looking. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Butterfly
On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 2:43 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg wow, Dave, that is really nice :-)) regards, subash -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Butterfly
G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, that's really well thought out and composed. The blond hair of the model really helps creates the butterfly effect. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:13:04 +0800, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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David Savage wrote: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) Ah, but what is? (cool photo, BTW) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 5:13 AM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) Yes it is. Thats a great shot. Her arms seem to extend into the painted wall, which i assume is want you wanted. Nice pleasing colours , for me anyway Dave http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well seen. Excellent. Paul On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:13 AM, David Savage wrote: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great shot! Well-conceived, and your model did well too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 8/14/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Butterfly To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:13 AM G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Clever idea captured very well, Dave. Extremely creative. Jack --- On Thu, 8/14/08, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Butterfly To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:13 AM G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Dave: That picture is delightfully creative playful. Wow. What a stunner! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:13 AM Subject: PESO - Butterfly G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 14/8/08, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: G'day All, Another from Sunday: (Warning: not safe for the drunk or stoned) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3220/2758986129_555941e55a_o.jpg K20D, DA 21mm f3.2, 1/8 @ f3.2, ISO 800 Comments always welcome. Clever shot. Nice arse. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Oh yes I did. The abstract was quite interesting, if you read closely the hypothesis was that the insect would be darker in cold climates to help the insects keep warm. The quot and the position in the abstract that tells me how much this hypothesis is worth is this one Across all populations, monarch larvae developed the darkest coloration in the cold treatment and were lightest when reared in hot temperatures. Similar results were observed for measures of adult wing melanism, /with the exception of adult females, which developed darker colored wings in warmer temperatures./ Hum, damn near half of the experimental population showed the reverse adaptation. Perhaps there is another explanation. In the current question as to whether this effect is great enough to make as big a difference as seen between Walters butterfly shot and mine, or whether processing or perhaps color space caused the difference, the abstract doesn't tell us that. In fact it tells little or nothing at all. AlunFoto wrote: If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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In case you missed the post, the butterfly in question is not a Monarch but a Queen. It has a darker more chocholate coloring. Walt On 6/26/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes I did. The abstract was quite interesting, if you read closely the hypothesis was that the insect would be darker in cold climates to help the insects keep warm. The quot and the position in the abstract that tells me how much this hypothesis is worth is this one Across all populations, monarch larvae developed the darkest coloration in the cold treatment and were lightest when reared in hot temperatures. Similar results were observed for measures of adult wing melanism, /with the exception of adult females, which developed darker colored wings in warmer temperatures./ Hum, damn near half of the experimental population showed the reverse adaptation. Perhaps there is another explanation. In the current question as to whether this effect is great enough to make as big a difference as seen between Walters butterfly shot and mine, or whether processing or perhaps color space caused the difference, the abstract doesn't tell us that. In fact it tells little or nothing at all. AlunFoto wrote: If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
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I didn't miss the post, you're right of course, if it's a queen butterfly the comparison to the coloring of monarchs is not relevant, and my suggestion is moot. In the word of Emily Latella Nevermind. Walter Hamler wrote: In case you missed the post, the butterfly in question is not a Monarch but a Queen. It has a darker more chocholate coloring. Walt On 6/26/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes I did. The abstract was quite interesting, if you read closely the hypothesis was that the insect would be darker in cold climates to help the insects keep warm. The quot and the position in the abstract that tells me how much this hypothesis is worth is this one Across all populations, monarch larvae developed the darkest coloration in the cold treatment and were lightest when reared in hot temperatures. Similar results were observed for measures of adult wing melanism, /with the exception of adult females, which developed darker colored wings in warmer temperatures./ Hum, damn near half of the experimental population showed the reverse adaptation. Perhaps there is another explanation. In the current question as to whether this effect is great enough to make as big a difference as seen between Walters butterfly shot and mine, or whether processing or perhaps color space caused the difference, the abstract doesn't tell us that. In fact it tells little or nothing at all. AlunFoto wrote: If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil
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If you are interested in seeing the full article send me an email. I have access to the journal through my work. FWIW, they used a Oly C-3000 to photograph the larvae and a flat bead scanner to image the butterflies. Perry. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes I did. The abstract was quite interesting, if you read closely the hypothesis was that the insect would be darker in cold climates to help the insects keep warm. The quot and the position in the abstract that tells me how much this hypothesis is worth is this one Across all populations, monarch larvae developed the darkest coloration in the cold treatment and were lightest when reared in hot temperatures. Similar results were observed for measures of adult wing melanism, /with the exception of adult females, which developed darker colored wings in warmer temperatures./ Hum, damn near half of the experimental population showed the reverse adaptation. Perhaps there is another explanation. In the current question as to whether this effect is great enough to make as big a difference as seen between Walters butterfly shot and mine, or whether processing or perhaps color space caused the difference, the abstract doesn't tell us that. In fact it tells little or nothing at all. AlunFoto wrote: If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions
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Thanks Perry, but the answer is that Walter apparently photographed a Queen butterfly, where as I was photographing Monarch Butterflies so what we were really comparing apples and oran..., well no more like oranges and tangerines. Perry Pellechia wrote: If you are interested in seeing the full article send me an email. I have access to the journal through my work. FWIW, they used a Oly C-3000 to photograph the larvae and a flat bead scanner to image the butterflies. Perry. On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:06 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh yes I did. The abstract was quite interesting, if you read closely the hypothesis was that the insect would be darker in cold climates to help the insects keep warm. The quot and the position in the abstract that tells me how much this hypothesis is worth is this one Across all populations, monarch larvae developed the darkest coloration in the cold treatment and were lightest when reared in hot temperatures. Similar results were observed for measures of adult wing melanism, /with the exception of adult females, which developed darker colored wings in warmer temperatures./ Hum, damn near half of the experimental population showed the reverse adaptation. Perhaps there is another explanation. In the current question as to whether this effect is great enough to make as big a difference as seen between Walters butterfly shot and mine, or whether processing or perhaps color space caused the difference, the abstract doesn't tell us that. In fact it tells little or nothing at all. AlunFoto wrote: If you scroll down, the abstract is available for free and in plain text. As is the custom for most of those scientific publishing services. I wouldn't pay, either, only to find out something about some American butterfly, but I thought you perhaps would have found the abstract interesting too. Jostein 2008/6/26 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from
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Hard but worth it, right.:-) Good shot Dave On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry Ken, I should have read a little clearer there. That is your photo. To make my comment a bit clearer. The color of the underside of the wing is a bit more muted yet lighter, like it was coated with a very thin layer of whitewash than the upper wing surface of the monarch, (which is easily seen in the sample). Your photo is showing the lower wing surface and the color is rendered closer to what the upper surface as seen here. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch4.html That is a very good photo no doubt about it. The butterfly's wing color just seems off. P. J. Alling wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Oops. I changed it again. Walt On 6/25/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well now I'm completely confused. I guess I shouldn't try to answer e-mail before my morning coffee. I can't seem to get the photo to load. Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walter, the link didn't work for me but I was able to see the photo from the previous version going to the gallery. Yes that's closer to the right shade of Orange. You've punched up the color a bit but still more what I would expect. I wish I could have gotten that close to the Monarchs I photographed last year, but they were too skittish. P. J. Alling wrote: Well now I'm completely confused. I guess I shouldn't try to answer e-mail before my morning coffee. I can't seem to get the photo to load. Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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FYI: The link on this post will not allow loading, but the one that succeeds it on Christin's post will. Jack --- On Wed, 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Well now I'm completely confused. I guess I shouldn't try to answer e-mail before my morning coffee. I can't seem to get the photo to load. Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The changed image can be accessed by closing the displayed image at that link and displaying the local gallery. You can then open the changed image. It's a bit brighter overall than I think it should be but the color of the butterfly is much closer to what it should be. Jack Davis wrote: FYI: The link on this post will not allow loading, but the one that succeeds it on Christin's post will. Jack --- On Wed, 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PESO-Butterfly Encounter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 8:22 AM Well now I'm completely confused. I guess I shouldn't try to answer e-mail before my morning coffee. I can't seem to get the photo to load. Walter Hamler wrote: http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J#319734557_4Cjdn-XL-LB Is this one any better Peter? Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Walter has a problem in color space conversion. I worked very hard to get the upper and lower wing colors correct in this shot and the while I enhanced the brightness a bit this is pretty close. http://www.mindspring.com/~happydogsoftware/monarchgallery/monarch3.html Bob Sullivan wrote: Peter, Maybe it's a bit overexposed, but not more than 1/2 stop. The leaves it sits on look too bright, but bright sunlight can do that, as well as backlight the wings. This shot is very good. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 8:01 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The butterfly's color seems to be off a bit. Ken Waller wrote: Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Peter, if you look at the pic Bob posted of the butterfly that looks like mine, it is not a Monarch, but a cousin, the Queen Butterfly. I believe the simple answer to the problem is that the butterfly I shot is in fact a Queen Butterfly. I will ask the folks tomorrow at the nursery as they are pretty knowledgable on the subject. Thanks all for the input and comments. It's been fun. Walt On 6/25/08, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damnifiknow. The link you posted wants money, and I refuse to pay to read. I've never heard of temperature differences causing wing color differences. Monarchs live in every temperate climate and overwinter in Mexico, none of the photographs I've seen from their winter quarters have ever shown a particularly large color variation. On the other hand the difference between the colors I saw in Walters photo and mine were reminiscent of the difference I observed when I converted to jpeg on a few images without first converting to the correct color space. AlunFoto wrote: Peter, Walt, Bob, Is there natural variation in Monarch wing color? I did a quick google search and came across a scientific study of monarchs reared at different temperatures in a lab. The article is mostly concerned with larva colour, but also mentions that adult females from populations grown in warmer conditions become darker than usual. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL_udi=B6T94-4GJM3Y5-1_user=10_rdoc=1_fmt=_orig=search_sort=dview=c_acct=C50221_version=1_urlVersion=0_userid=10md5=a63c95bf46d5dc941776d1da7d26b91b Now since Walt lives in Florida... :-) Jostein 2008/6/25 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Walt and Peter, I don't think there's a lot wrong with the color, especially since flash was used. Here's one without flash, taken on Fujichrome and scanned to a Kodak CD. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7452144size=lg Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Walt: Very nice, but perhaps a little bit of a crop on the right? Great catch nonetheless! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Vote for Cthulhu. Why settle for a lesser evil... -- Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very nice Walt. It's had to get that well focused. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Really a well caught shot. The DOF issue with macros is somewhat reduced by the broadside angle to this, more or less, two dimensional critter. To me, it needs more light (flash?) to appreciate the really fine detail. Jack --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 5:08 PM Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Bob. This one was probably my best one as far as focus. I had two or three others that were better composed but I missed the focus. I am using a Phoenix 100mm f/3.5 manual focus and it is tough for these tired eyes. I plan to go back several more times (it's cheap!) and try to hone the skills. Walt On 6/24/08, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice Walt. It's had to get that well focused. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thanks Jack. My new (old) Vivitar 283 was working hard. I think I could add some more fill in Lightroom/Photoshop to bring out a little more. Walt On 6/24/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Really a well caught shot. The DOF issue with macros is somewhat reduced by the broadside angle to this, more or less, two dimensional critter. To me, it needs more light (flash?) to appreciate the really fine detail. Jack --- On Tue, 6/24/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, June 24, 2008, 5:08 PM Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Macro may be hard, but you got it right here. Excellent shot. Paul -- Original message -- From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_ VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great butterfly capture! I'd crop out the parts of the plant on the RH side Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO-Butterfly Encounter Local Nursery has a Butterfly House. Great opportunity for pics but I have learned bigtime that macro is hard!!! Walt http://walthamler.smugmug.com/gallery/4592986_mrB5J/3/319375517_VQr2A#319375517_VQr2A-XL-LB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.