Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-18 Thread graywolf
Even the ones that aren't there anymore. I assume you mean the DeLorme 
map book. Back before I became too poor to buy gasoline I was a serious 
back-roader, and could not pass up a road to nowhere.

BTW, Mortimer NC is a nice place to visit. I could not believe a 
two-digit highway actually turned to dirt on the way.

-graywolf


John Sessoms wrote:

 
 Yeah, I like back roads ... more places to waste time takin' pictures. 
 I've got a map book that shows every federal, state and county road in 
 all 100 NC counties.
 
 Over the years, I've been marking them off with a hi-liter as I travel 
 down them.
 

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Back Roads - was re GFM question ...

2007-03-18 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 graywolf

 Even the ones that aren't there anymore. I assume you mean the DeLorme 
 map book. Back before I became too poor to buy gasoline I was a 
 serious back-roader, and could not pass up a road to nowhere.

 BTW, Mortimer NC is a nice place to visit. I could not believe a 
 two-digit highway actually turned to dirt on the way.

 -graywolf 

It's not the DeLorme book.

The book I have has copies of the county maps made by the NC DOT. The 
counties are in alphabetical order, just plain black  white with a blue 
overprint of symbols for state parks, county seats etc.

 http://www.ncdot.org/it/gis/DataDistribution/CountyMapTIFs/

It's these DOT GIS maps in book form with a paragraph blurb about each 
county  some other graphics (drawings of small wildlife ...) thrown in. 
Book is about 13 x 19. The NC DOT offers a version of this book with 
the full size maps, but it's about $160. I think that one sells to civil 
engineers  surveyors who can write it off as a business expense.

UNC Library has a copy in their North Carolina Collection under One 
Hundred Or So Good North Carolina Reference Sources - the number is the 
UNC Library call number.

FCR912 P97 1989
Puetz, C. J. /North Carolina County Maps./ Lyndon Station, Wisconsin: 
County Maps, 1996.
Includes all one hundred county maps with a brief history of each county 
and quick facts on the state. Includes identification of major roads and 
landmarks. Large format makes for an ease of use.

Went out to the car and got the book ... on the contents page it says:

COUNTY MAPS is a unit of THOMAS PUBLICATIONS, LTD.
Puetz Place, Lyndon Station, WI 53944

County Map Books, similar in size and containing all county maps are 
available for the states of: Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, 
Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia, 
and Wisconsin. For copies of any of our publications address:
COUNTY MAPS - Puetz Place - Lyndon Station, WI 53944 - 608-666-3331

I see them for sale every once in a while in major bookstore chains 
around here, and I believe some camping supply stores will have them. I 
know a couple of the REI stores here in the triangle area carry them.

WaldenBooks/Borders Books/Amazon.com has a used one on offer.

  http://tinyurl.com/338vkn

I'm on my third copy, having literally worn out two previous editions. I 
originally got it as an aid in navigating eastern NC because the main 
highways were often not the most efficient route from one small town to 
another.

While the maps are out of date, because they don't show a number of 
changes, particularly new 4-lanes on US 64 east of Tarboro, NC and US 
421 northwest of Wilkesboro, the numbered county roads hardly change at 
all, other than some dirt roads shown are now paved roads.


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Re: Back Roads - was re GFM question ...

2007-03-18 Thread graywolf
I believe I have seen that one in the stores, but I have never used it.

John Sessoms wrote:
 From:
 graywolf

 Even the ones that aren't there anymore. I assume you mean the DeLorme 
 map book. Back before I became too poor to buy gasoline I was a 
 serious back-roader, and could not pass up a road to nowhere.

 BTW, Mortimer NC is a nice place to visit. I could not believe a 
 two-digit highway actually turned to dirt on the way.

 -graywolf 
 
 It's not the DeLorme book.
 
 The book I have has copies of the county maps made by the NC DOT. The 
 counties are in alphabetical order, just plain black  white with a blue 
 overprint of symbols for state parks, county seats etc.
 
  http://www.ncdot.org/it/gis/DataDistribution/CountyMapTIFs/
 
 It's these DOT GIS maps in book form with a paragraph blurb about each 
 county  some other graphics (drawings of small wildlife ...) thrown in. 
 Book is about 13 x 19. The NC DOT offers a version of this book with 
 the full size maps, but it's about $160. I think that one sells to civil 
 engineers  surveyors who can write it off as a business expense.
 
 UNC Library has a copy in their North Carolina Collection under One 
 Hundred Or So Good North Carolina Reference Sources - the number is the 
 UNC Library call number.
 
 FCR912 P97 1989
 Puetz, C. J. /North Carolina County Maps./ Lyndon Station, Wisconsin: 
 County Maps, 1996.
 Includes all one hundred county maps with a brief history of each county 
 and quick facts on the state. Includes identification of major roads and 
 landmarks. Large format makes for an ease of use.
 
 Went out to the car and got the book ... on the contents page it says:
 
 COUNTY MAPS is a unit of THOMAS PUBLICATIONS, LTD.
 Puetz Place, Lyndon Station, WI 53944
 
 County Map Books, similar in size and containing all county maps are 
 available for the states of: Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky, 
 Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia, 
 and Wisconsin. For copies of any of our publications address:
 COUNTY MAPS - Puetz Place - Lyndon Station, WI 53944 - 608-666-3331
 
 I see them for sale every once in a while in major bookstore chains 
 around here, and I believe some camping supply stores will have them. I 
 know a couple of the REI stores here in the triangle area carry them.
 
 WaldenBooks/Borders Books/Amazon.com has a used one on offer.
 
   http://tinyurl.com/338vkn
 
 I'm on my third copy, having literally worn out two previous editions. I 
 originally got it as an aid in navigating eastern NC because the main 
 highways were often not the most efficient route from one small town to 
 another.
 
 While the maps are out of date, because they don't show a number of 
 changes, particularly new 4-lanes on US 64 east of Tarboro, NC and US 
 421 northwest of Wilkesboro, the numbered county roads hardly change at 
 all, other than some dirt roads shown are now paved roads.
 
 

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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 Bill Owens
 321 is under construction between Lenoir and Blowing Rock.  I would suggest
 I-77 to 421 to Boone and 105 from Boone to Linville.  At the stoplight (only
 one) in Linville, turn left on 221 for about 2 miles to GFM.

Or take I-40W when you come to it at Hickory and exit at Morganton. From 
there, take NC 181 up to Linville. That'll put you about 2 miles south 
of GFM entrance on US 221.

Be advised, however, NC 181 is a 2 lane mountain road with switch-backs 
 lots of hairpin curves. I like it, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.


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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread Bill Owens
That's precisely the way we go from Gastonia

Bill

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 From:
 Bill Owens
 321 is under construction between Lenoir and Blowing Rock.  I would
suggest
 I-77 to 421 to Boone and 105 from Boone to Linville.  At the stoplight
(only
 one) in Linville, turn left on 221 for about 2 miles to GFM.

Or take I-40W when you come to it at Hickory and exit at Morganton. From 
there, take NC 181 up to Linville. That'll put you about 2 miles south 
of GFM entrance on US 221.

Be advised, however, NC 181 is a 2 lane mountain road with switch-backs 
 lots of hairpin curves. I like it, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.


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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 Cotty
 Tom, or anyone, what's the quickest way over to GFM from I-85? Down the
 26 and get off at/near Johnson City, or what about the 37 from Bluff
 City? Last time (2004!) I was a passenger while tv drove the whole way
 (late plane means I missed presenting my docs at the rental place) and I
 think we went I-85, I-26, ...er, can't remember the rest  ;-) 

 Bear in mind I drive on the left, even in the US. Makes things more fun.
I-85 at what city and state? AFAIK, Johnson City is in Tennessee and 
I-85 doesn't go anywhere near it. Do you mean I-81?

Here's a link to GFM's own directions: 
http://www.grandfather.com/getting_here/

and a PDF map: http://www.grandfather.com/pdf/from-JohnsonCity.pdf

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/3/07, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

I-85 at what city and state? AFAIK, Johnson City is in Tennessee and 
I-85 doesn't go anywhere near it. Do you mean I-81?

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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 Bill Owens
 I think, Bill, that he was referring to the part from the airport to 
 I-85. Think as someone who hasn't a clue of what is what and where is 
 where. Since you worked there a million years or so, you ought to be 
 able to give those directions. I have driven that 10-12 times and am 
 sure I could not do so as to make any sense to an outsider. It is 
 confusing as hell.

 -graywolf


 Granted, I worked at the Charlotte airport for about 10 years.  However,
 living in Gastonia, I seldom had reason to go from the airport to I-85.
 This being the case, I can't be of much help other than to say follow the
 signs to I-85 North.

 Bill
You come out of main terminal area on RC Josh Birmingham Pkwy. The only 
exits off RC Josh Birmingham Pkwy are onto Billy Graham Pkwy.

Get in the left lane and you'll loop over Billy Graham Pkwy and merge 
onto it going north. Billy Graham Pkwy crosses over I-85.

Exit right just BEFORE the I-85 bridge for I-85 N to I-77.
Exit right immediately AFTER the I-85 bridge for I-85 S to Gastonia  US 
321 N.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=entab=wlq=Charlotte%20Douglas%20Airport

or

http://tinyurl.com/2b3vsd

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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-17 Thread John Sessoms

 From:
 Bill Owens
 That's precisely the way we go from Gastonia

 Bill

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 Sessoms
   
 Or take I-40W when you come to it at Hickory and exit at Morganton. From 
 there, take NC 181 up to Linville. That'll put you about 2 miles south 
 of GFM entrance on US 221.

 Be advised, however, NC 181 is a 2 lane mountain road with switch-backs 
  lots of hairpin curves. I like it, but it's not everyone's cup of tea.

Yeah, I like back roads ... more places to waste time takin' pictures. 
I've got a map book that shows every federal, state and county road in 
all 100 NC counties.

Over the years, I've been marking them off with a hi-liter as I travel 
down them.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain [off list]

2007-03-16 Thread Cotty
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-16 Thread mike wilson
From his writings, I get the impression that William prefers his floggings to 
be administered by someone of the opposite sex and dressed in something more, 
ah, inspiring than military fatigues.
 
 From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2007/03/16 Fri AM 03:15:07 GMT
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 Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain
 
 Probably better than some two star hotels I've been in, except for the 
 razor wire and bars that is.
 
 William Robb wrote:
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  Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain
 
 

  I hear solitary confinement in Federal facilities has improved.  They
  still only feed you bread and water, but it's gourmet bread and Evien 
  now...
  
 
  Next thing you'll be telling us is that Guantánamo is a 4 star hotel.
 
  William Robb 
 
 

 
 
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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-16 Thread Bill Owens


It might be prudent for someone familiar with the Charlotte airport to 
publish instructions about how to get from the airport car rental escape to 
I77. I had good intructions (thanks Bill) when I drove from Charlotte to GFM

a couple of years ago, but I found the first part of the drive to be rather 
confusing, and didn't really feel comfortable that I was going the right 
direction until I saw a milage sign with Statesville listed.

William Robb

I'll try.

From the Charlotte airport follow the signs to I-85 North.  Take 85 North to
I-77 North.  Follow I-77 50-60 miles or so to US 421 North (I think, though
it may be west).  421 to Boone, then 105 to Linville.  At the stoplight in
Linville, turn left on 221 to GFM entrance, apprx 2 miles.

Bill


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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-16 Thread graywolf
I think, Bill, that he was referring to the part from the airport to 
I-85. Think as someone who hasn't a clue of what is what and where is 
where. Since you worked there a million years or so, you ought to be 
able to give those directions. I have driven that 10-12 times and am 
sure I could not do so as to make any sense to an outsider. It is 
confusing as hell.

-graywolf


Bill Owens wrote:
 
 It might be prudent for someone familiar with the Charlotte airport to 
 publish instructions about how to get from the airport car rental escape to 
 I77. I had good intructions (thanks Bill) when I drove from Charlotte to GFM
 
 a couple of years ago, but I found the first part of the drive to be rather 
 confusing, and didn't really feel comfortable that I was going the right 
 direction until I saw a milage sign with Statesville listed.
 
 William Robb
 
 I'll try.
 
From the Charlotte airport follow the signs to I-85 North.  Take 85 North to
 I-77 North.  Follow I-77 50-60 miles or so to US 421 North (I think, though
 it may be west).  421 to Boone, then 105 to Linville.  At the stoplight in
 Linville, turn left on 221 to GFM entrance, apprx 2 miles.
 
 Bill
 
 

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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-16 Thread Bill Owens


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I think, Bill, that he was referring to the part from the airport to 
I-85. Think as someone who hasn't a clue of what is what and where is 
where. Since you worked there a million years or so, you ought to be 
able to give those directions. I have driven that 10-12 times and am 
sure I could not do so as to make any sense to an outsider. It is 
confusing as hell.

-graywolf


Granted, I worked at the Charlotte airport for about 10 years.  However,
living in Gastonia, I seldom had reason to go from the airport to I-85.
This being the case, I can't be of much help other than to say follow the
signs to I-85 North.

Bill


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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-16 Thread William Robb

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Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain


I think, Bill, that he was referring to the part from the airport to
 I-85. Think as someone who hasn't a clue of what is what and where is
 where. Since you worked there a million years or so, you ought to be
 able to give those directions. I have driven that 10-12 times and am
 sure I could not do so as to make any sense to an outsider. It is
 confusing as hell.

Thanks Tom. I was concerned it was just me. It is especially confusing if 
your nerves are still jangled from having a goon half unholster his sidearm 
in your general direction at Minneapolis.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread graywolf
You got it about right if you come up into Boone and take 105 over. If 
you take 221 or the parkway allow another half hour as they are very 
slow roads.

David Savage wrote:
 G'day Trendsetters,
 
 A quick question for those in the know.
 
 It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on May 31st,
 (overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So I'm wondering,
 roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to GFM (I-85 West to
 Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?
 
 I need to know how much time to budget for the journey to, and more
 importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my flight on the 4th.
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: David Savage
Subject: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain


 G'day Trendsetters,

 A quick question for those in the know.

 It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on May 31st,
 (overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So I'm wondering,
 roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to GFM (I-85 West to
 Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?

 I need to know how much time to budget for the journey to, and more
 importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my flight on the 4th.



Not long if you forget they don't have metric speedometers
I think it took me a couple of hours to get there once I got out of the 
airport.

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RE: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Bill Owens
321 is under construction between Lenoir and Blowing Rock.  I would suggest
I-77 to 421 to Boone and 105 from Boone to Linville.  At the stoplight (only
one) in Linville, turn left on 221 for about 2 miles to GFM.

Bill

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Subject: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

G'day Trendsetters,

A quick question for those in the know.

It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on May 31st,
(overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So I'm wondering,
roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to GFM (I-85 West to
Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?

I need to know how much time to budget for the journey to, and more
importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my flight on the 4th.

TIA,

Dave

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David Savage
Thanks Tom.

Cheers,

Dave

On 3/15/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You got it about right if you come up into Boone and take 105 over. If
 you take 221 or the parkway allow another half hour as they are very
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David Savage
On 3/15/07, Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 321 is under construction between Lenoir and Blowing Rock.  I would suggest
 I-77 to 421 to Boone and 105 from Boone to Linville.  At the stoplight (only
 one) in Linville, turn left on 221 for about 2 miles to GFM.

Good to know. Thanks Bill.

Cheers,

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David Savage
On 3/15/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not long if you forget they don't have metric speedometers

:-) I also tend to go to the wrong side of the car too. On my last
trip to Canada even after 3 months I still got it wrong.

 I think it took me a couple of hours to get there once I got out of the
 airport.

Thanks Bill.

As long as I don't get horribly lost I should have plenty of time.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Grandfather Mountain is near Linvill.  If mapquest or someother similar 
site doesn't know GFM you can use Linville as an endpoint in generating 
a TripTic, (AAA for strip map), with time and driving directions from 
Charlotte.  It should give a good approximation.

David Savage wrote:
 G'day Trendsetters,

 A quick question for those in the know.

 It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on May 31st,
 (overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So I'm wondering,
 roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to GFM (I-85 West to
 Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?

 I need to know how much time to budget for the journey to, and more
 importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my flight on the 4th.

 TIA,

 Dave

   


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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/15/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/15/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Not long if you forget they don't have metric speedometers

 :-) I also tend to go to the wrong side of the car too. On my last
 trip to Canada even after 3 months I still got it wrong.

That's not so bad.  I do that occasionally and I've never even been to
a country where they drive on the left.  As long as you keep it on the
right side of the road you should be ok!

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote:

Grandfather Mountain is near Linvill.  If mapquest or someother similar 
site doesn't know GFM you can use Linville as an endpoint in generating 
a TripTic, (AAA for strip map), with time and driving directions from 
Charlotte.  It should give a good approximation.

When we get closer to the actual date we'll probably exchange phone 
numbers. That way you'll be able to get in touch with us and get 
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Scott Loveless
On 3/15/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Grandfather Mountain is near Linvill.  If mapquest or someother similar
 site doesn't know GFM you can use Linville as an endpoint in generating
 a TripTic, (AAA for strip map), with time and driving directions from
 Charlotte.  It should give a good approximation.

Last year it didn't work, but this year google maps actually knows
where it is.  Search for Grandfather Mountain, NC.  It even shows
the entrance road all the way up to the top.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David Savage
On 3/15/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 P. J. Alling wrote:

 Grandfather Mountain is near Linvill.  If mapquest or someother similar
 site doesn't know GFM you can use Linville as an endpoint in generating
 a TripTic, (AAA for strip map), with time and driving directions from
 Charlotte.  It should give a good approximation.

 When we get closer to the actual date we'll probably exchange phone
 numbers. That way you'll be able to get in touch with us and get
 directions or even have someone meet you somewhere.

Thanks Mark.

Hell, I get lost in my home city. Ask Rob Studdert When he get back.
His GPS nav system came in handy when he visited. :-)

As long as I have a good map I should be OK.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David Savage
On 3/15/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Last year it didn't work, but this year google maps actually knows
 where it is.  Search for Grandfather Mountain, NC.  It even shows
 the entrance road all the way up to the top.

Cool!

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
When Frank and i were stopped at the crossing, they wanted to know
what address we were driving to.

I said, how the hell do i know, its a mountain.

I don't think i helped our cause at that point.
;-)

Dave

On 3/15/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 3/15/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Last year it didn't work, but this year google maps actually knows
  where it is.  Search for Grandfather Mountain, NC.  It even shows
  the entrance road all the way up to the top.

 Cool!

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
I hear solitary confinement in Federal facilities has improved.  They 
still only feed you bread and water, but it's gourmet bread and Evien now...

David J Brooks wrote:
 When Frank and i were stopped at the crossing, they wanted to know
 what address we were driving to.

 I said, how the hell do i know, its a mountain.

 I don't think i helped our cause at that point.
 ;-)

 Dave

 On 3/15/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On 3/15/07, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Last year it didn't work, but this year google maps actually knows
 where it is.  Search for Grandfather Mountain, NC.  It even shows
 the entrance road all the way up to the top.
   
 Cool!

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread graywolf
321 is not a problem, except that they close it for blasting from noon 
to 2pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. You might have a ten minute hold up, 
but that is not usual. The contractor is real good keeping the road open 
(so far). In fact I ran it down to Charlotte Tuesday morning and back 
late Tuesday evening with no hold ups at all. However if you run it when 
it is closed it will add a full hour to the trip, the detour is about 50 
extra miles, so if you are running it Thursday afternoon take Bill's 
advice to heart. It is 20 miles farther that way, but the speed limits 
are higher. 421 is now divided highway from 77 to Boone.

-graywolf


Bill Owens wrote:
 321 is under construction between Lenoir and Blowing Rock.  I would suggest
 I-77 to 421 to Boone and 105 from Boone to Linville.  At the stoplight (only
 one) in Linville, turn left on 221 for about 2 miles to GFM.
 
 Bill
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 David Savage
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:04 AM
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 Subject: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain
 
 G'day Trendsetters,
 
 A quick question for those in the know.
 
 It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on May 31st,
 (overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So I'm wondering,
 roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to GFM (I-85 West to
 Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?
 
 I need to know how much time to budget for the journey to, and more
 importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my flight on the 4th.
 
 TIA,
 
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: graywolf
Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain


 321 is not a problem, except that they close it for blasting from noon
 to 2pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays. You might have a ten minute hold up,
 but that is not usual. The contractor is real good keeping the road open
 (so far). In fact I ran it down to Charlotte Tuesday morning and back
 late Tuesday evening with no hold ups at all. However if you run it when
 it is closed it will add a full hour to the trip, the detour is about 50
 extra miles, so if you are running it Thursday afternoon take Bill's
 advice to heart. It is 20 miles farther that way, but the speed limits
 are higher. 421 is now divided highway from 77 to Boone.


It might be prudent for someone familiar with the Charlotte airport to 
publish instructions about how to get from the airport car rental escape to 
I77. I had good intructions (thanks Bill) when I drove from Charlotte to GFM 
a couple of years ago, but I found the first part of the drive to be rather 
confusing, and didn't really feel comfortable that I was going the right 
direction until I saw a milage sign with Statesville listed.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: P. J. Alling
Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain


I hear solitary confinement in Federal facilities has improved.  They
 still only feed you bread and water, but it's gourmet bread and Evien 
 now...

Next thing you'll be telling us is that Guantánamo is a 4 star hotel.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Cotty
Tom, or anyone, what's the quickest way over to GFM from I-85? Down the
26 and get off at/near Johnson City, or what about the 37 from Bluff
City? Last time (2004!) I was a passenger while tv drove the whole way
(late plane means I missed presenting my docs at the rental place) and I
think we went I-85, I-26, ...er, can't remember the rest ;-)

Bear in mind I drive on the left, even in the US. Makes things more fun.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread David J Brooks
On 3/15/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Bear in mind I drive on the left, even in the US. Makes things more fun.

In that case, if someone says go east, you'll need to go west, etc.:-)

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
I85 from DC?
Go I85 thru Richmond, Virginia to Durham, North Carolina.
At that point I85 pairs up with I40 and heads west.
Stay on the I40 part thru Greensboro and beyond Winston-Salem, NC.
65-70 miles west of Winston-Salem on I40 you will cross 321 at Hickory, NC.
Take 321 North (about 55 miles of 2 lane road) thru Lenoir to Blowing Rock, NC.
You take 221 or the Parkway west to GFM.

Or do you mean I66 from DC then I81 down the Shenandoah Valley?
That way you would go 15 miles south off of I81 down to Johnson City,
and about 50 miles of 2 lane to GFM
(321 East to Elizabethton and 19 South over Roan Mountain
Then 194 South to Newland and 181 East to Lynnville then 221 to GFM)

Let me know, I can send a map in Powerpoint.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 3/15/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tom, or anyone, what's the quickest way over to GFM from I-85? Down the
 26 and get off at/near Johnson City, or what about the 37 from Bluff
 City? Last time (2004!) I was a passenger while tv drove the whole way
 (late plane means I missed presenting my docs at the rental place) and I
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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread graywolf
(1-85 south) to (I-40 west) to (US-421 north) to Boone, (105 south) to 
Linville, (221 north) to GFM.

Cotty wrote:
 Tom, or anyone, what's the quickest way over to GFM from I-85? Down the
 26 and get off at/near Johnson City, or what about the 37 from Bluff
 City? Last time (2004!) I was a passenger while tv drove the whole way
 (late plane means I missed presenting my docs at the rental place) and I
 think we went I-85, I-26, ...er, can't remember the rest ;-)
 
 Bear in mind I drive on the left, even in the US. Makes things more fun.
 

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain

2007-03-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Probably better than some two star hotels I've been in, except for the 
razor wire and bars that is.

William Robb wrote:
 - Original Message - 
 From: P. J. Alling
 Subject: Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain


   
 I hear solitary confinement in Federal facilities has improved.  They
 still only feed you bread and water, but it's gourmet bread and Evien 
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 Next thing you'll be telling us is that Guantánamo is a 4 star hotel.

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Re: GFM Question: Charlotte to The Mountain [off list]

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Womer
Dave,

I'll be flying in to Charlotte about midday on Friday,
and driving up; leaving for Charlotte again early
afternoon Sunday.  What time is your flight?  I'd love
to have company for the drive.

Rick

--- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 G'day Trendsetters,
 
 A quick question for those in the know.
 
 It's looking like I'll be arriving in Charlotte on
 May 31st,
 (overnight stay, then head up Friday morning). So
 I'm wondering,
 roughly how long it takes to drive from Charlotte to
 GFM (I-85 West to
 Gastonia, US 321 North)? 2 - 2.5 hours?
 
 I need to know how much time to budget for the
 journey to, and more
 importantly from, GFM to make sure I can make my
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 TIA,
 
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-27 Thread Lon Williamson
The Brits are known to ladle leftover Yorkshire Pudding into the
pits left behind by removing olives from Pizza.
Y'all have been forewarned.
Cotty wrote:
I'll bring a jar of olives. You can add them to your pizza in the back of
the van, just don't let anyone see you do it.

You ain't seen nuthin yet...



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/5/04, MAD DOG WILLIAMSON, discombobulated, offered:

The Brits are known to ladle leftover Yorkshire Pudding into the
pits left behind by removing olives from Pizza.

Y'all have been forewarned.

Cotty wrote:
I'll bring a jar of olives. You can add them to your pizza in the back of
the van, just don't let anyone see you do it.
 
 
 You ain't seen nuthin yet...

LOL, Lon that's nuts. I hate Yorkshire pud. But I have been known to do a
few odd things food-wise. I'm sure that in a gross-out contest, most
Americans would have me beat...

I'm pretty good at toasting almost anything this side of solid. I'm not
finicky over heat sources either. Kippers on tubular headers? Good
breakfast after an hour on the road early-doors. You get the picture. If
one can eat it, it's only civilised to warm the bugger up first.

I've never tried toasting a Twinkie.




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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
Dotty wrote:
snip
e can eat it, it's only civilised to warm the bugger up first.
I've never tried toasting a Twinkie.
 

Deep fried is the way to go...
Yet.

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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/04, SOME P'TAKS, discombobulated, offered:


 feh.  no olives. no anchovies, puleezee

Absolutely no olives, green or ripe.

Bill

Pah. I will eat your anchovies and olives, and I will die an honourable death!


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/5/04, ANNSAN, discombobulated, offered:

now we will take this data and correlate it with
favorite pentax macro lenses 
and make a really looking chart out of it - who
can locate the eutectic point?

Ugh, is it that sticky-out bit near Boston?


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-18 Thread Cotty
 now we will take this data and correlate it with
 favorite pentax macro lenses
 and make a really looking chart out of it - who
 can locate the eutectic point?
 
 Ugh, is it that sticky-out bit near Boston?
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty

Is that the most imaginative answer you can come
up with??? Feh again, I say :)

annsan

I know, it's pathetic, isn't it.

Okay. Is it 23,100 hits on Google?


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-18 Thread graywolf
LOL!
tom wrote:
-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

You got that, TV? Now, I insist that none of those pizzas 
have anything that these guys like on them. Geeze, you would 
think there was only going to be one pizza for 25 people to share.

Why is it, do you suppose, that we all only see things our 
way? There are as many ways as there are people in the world. 
Most of those just right for them.

Well Tom, you know that the mere presence of olives on the mountain will
taint everyone else's experience.
I'll bring a jar of olives. You can add them to your pizza in the back of
the van, just don't let anyone see you do it.
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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread tom
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:
 
  Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant 
 we get them 
  from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more 
 or less be 
  fresh.
 
 Where is this place, Tom?  

Ledo's

http://www.ledopizza.com/

The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there when
he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...

tv



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread graywolf
Oh..! They have green olives. I love green olives on my pizza. For some reason 
they don't believe in green olives on pizza in North Carolina. Green olives, 
green peppers, and bacon. Yum, tangy tasting.

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-Original Message-
From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:

Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant 
we get them 

from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more 
or less be 

fresh.
Where is this place, Tom?  

Ledo's
http://www.ledopizza.com/
The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there when
he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread graywolf
I almost said there is no such thing as bad pizza, but then I remembered those 
cardboard tasting things Little Caesar's sold in the 70's.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/16/04 11:13AM 
The best way to reheat pizza is with a commercial convection oven. It
just
so happens we have access to the one in the GFM restaurant.
Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant we get them
from
cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more or less be
fresh.
Furthermore, this pizza is a slightly unusual recipe, having a crust
that
you could almost call a pastry crust. 

tv

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Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 2:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Re: GFM Question

An iron works pretty good too.  Get two pieces of Pizza and 
press them against each other.  Make sure the toppings are on 
the inside.  Then press the iron against the outside.  Heat 
to the desired temperature.

/college trick
~Alejandro

Best way to re-warm it, toaster oven.  But it's great cold too...
Cotty wrote:

On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:


whoa - what about the pizza???
Ain't that for Friday night?




Nope, Saturday lunch.
Bill
  

c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???
thinks
I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
graywolf wrote:
 
 Oh..! They have green olives. I love green olives on my pizza. For some reason
 they don't believe in green olives on pizza in North Carolina. Green olives,
 green peppers, and bacon. Yum, tangy tasting.

feh.  no olives. no anchovies, puleezee

green peppers fine. 

TV, ya getting all this??? ;)

I'm trying to lose another two lbs so I cn eat the
pizza guilt free

annsan


 
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 tom wrote:
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:
 
 
 Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant
 
 we get them
 
 from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more
 
 or less be
 
 fresh.
 
 Where is this place, Tom?
 
 
  Ledo's
 
  http://www.ledopizza.com/
 
  The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there when
  he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...
 
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread graywolf
You got that, TV? Now, I insist that none of those pizzas have anything that 
these guys like on them. Geeze, you would think there was only going to be one 
pizza for 25 people to share.

Why is it, do you suppose, that we all only see things our way? There are as 
many ways as there are people in the world. Most of those just right for them.

Funny thing is I did not even ask for anything here, just noticed and commented 
on something Ledo's had on their menu, and mentioned one combination of many 
that I liked. And folks start jumping up saying no, I don't like it, so Graywolf 
can not have it!

Next time I am up north I will have exactly that combination, and screw all you 
people. GRIN!

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feh.  no olives. no anchovies, puleezee

Absolutely no olives, green or ripe.
Bill

green peppers fine.
TV, ya getting all this??? ;)
I'm trying to lose another two lbs so I cn eat the
pizza guilt free
annsan

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-Original Message-
From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:

Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant
we get them
from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more
or less be

fresh.
Where is this place, Tom?

Ledo's
http://www.ledopizza.com/
The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there
when
he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...
tv

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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread TMP
LOL!  Well, I'll solve the problem easily from my perspective - whatever
topping I don't like, I will simply pick off - just the same way that I
always tell my kids to do it! Problem solved!

tan.

-Original Message-
From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2004 8:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM Question


You got that, TV? Now, I insist that none of those pizzas have anything that
these guys like on them. Geeze, you would think there was only going to be
one
pizza for 25 people to share.

Why is it, do you suppose, that we all only see things our way? There are as
many ways as there are people in the world. Most of those just right for
them.

Funny thing is I did not even ask for anything here, just noticed and
commented
on something Ledo's had on their menu, and mentioned one combination of many
that I liked. And folks start jumping up saying no, I don't like it, so
Graywolf
can not have it!

Next time I am up north I will have exactly that combination, and screw all
you
people. GRIN!

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feh.  no olives. no anchovies, puleezee


 Absolutely no olives, green or ripe.

 Bill


green peppers fine.

TV, ya getting all this??? ;)

I'm trying to lose another two lbs so I cn eat the
pizza guilt free

annsan



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-Original Message-
From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:



Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant

we get them

from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more

or less be


fresh.

Where is this place, Tom?


Ledo's

http://www.ledopizza.com/

The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there

 when

he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...

tv



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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele
TMP wrote:
 
 LOL!  Well, I'll solve the problem easily from my perspective - whatever
 topping I don't like, I will simply pick off - just the same way that I
 always tell my kids to do it! Problem solved!
 
 tan.

Tan, you are missing all the fun being so obliging
:)

This is supposed to be like one of those favorite
lens surveys, don't ya know?

Just from the responses so far one can note that
the favorites appear to
be pepperoni, sausage or plain and least favorites
anchovies and olives.

now we will take this data and correlate it with
favorite pentax macro lenses 
and make a really looking chart out of it - who
can locate the eutectic point?

annsan (who, of course, ducks...)





 
 -Original Message-
 From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 2004 8:50 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GFM Question
 
 You got that, TV? Now, I insist that none of those pizzas have anything that
 these guys like on them. Geeze, you would think there was only going to be
 one
 pizza for 25 people to share.
 
 Why is it, do you suppose, that we all only see things our way? There are as
 many ways as there are people in the world. Most of those just right for
 them.
 
 Funny thing is I did not even ask for anything here, just noticed and
 commented
 on something Ledo's had on their menu, and mentioned one combination of many
 that I liked. And folks start jumping up saying no, I don't like it, so
 Graywolf
 can not have it!
 
 Next time I am up north I will have exactly that combination, and screw all
 you
 people. GRIN!
 
 --
 
 Bill Owens wrote:
 feh.  no olives. no anchovies, puleezee
 
 
  Absolutely no olives, green or ripe.
 
  Bill
 
 
 green peppers fine.
 
 TV, ya getting all this??? ;)
 
 I'm trying to lose another two lbs so I cn eat the
 pizza guilt free
 
 annsan
 
 
 
 --
 
 tom wrote:
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug Franklin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:
 
 
 
 Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant
 
 we get them
 
 from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more
 
 or less be
 
 
 fresh.
 
 Where is this place, Tom?
 
 
 Ledo's
 
 http://www.ledopizza.com/
 
 The first (and still best) one is in College Park MD. My dad ate there
 
  when
 
 he was at UMCP, which was quite a while ago...
 
 tv
 
 
 
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 graywolf
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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/5/04, TV, discombobulated, offered:

The best way to reheat pizza is with a commercial convection oven. It just
so happens we have access to the one in the GFM restaurant.

Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant we get them from
cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more or less be fresh.

HALLELUJAH.


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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-16 Thread Doug Franklin
On Sun, 16 May 2004 11:13:26 -0400, tom wrote:

 Also, these pizzas are half-baked. The pizza restaurant we get
 them from cooks them halfway, so when we bake them they'll more
 or less be fresh.

Where is this place, Tom?  There used to be a place in Richmond, VA,
that did this, but I believe they're either out of business, or have
stopped doing the half baked pizza thing.  There used to be a place
in Baltimore, MD, that would sell you a pizza kit that included
everything from dough to toppings, but you did all of the
construction from rolling the dough to baking.  I don't know if
they're still around, since I haven't been to Baltimore for many years.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




RE: GFM Question

2004-05-15 Thread Tom Reese
Frank Theriault volunteered for babysitting duty at GFM then wrote:

If people give me beer, I'll do almost anything.  Make chili.  Watch kids.

This is starting to sound like a Jeff Foxworthy joke. (For you non-US types,
Foxworthy has made a ton of money poking fun at country folks).

Here's a case of beer. Thanks for watching my kids.

No Problem. I have lots of fireworks and ammunition so we're gonna have a
great time but first I gotta quench my thirst...

Tom Reese





Re: GFM Question

2004-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/5/04, STAN, discombobulated, offered:

Cold straight from the fridge super supreme pizza - the 
breakfast of Gods! Great for hangovers! But it is so hard to 
have left-overs available.

Stan, I have yet to sample the obvious delight of cold pizza. I will try
*anything* once.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/5/04, ALEJANDRO, discombobulated, offered:

An iron works pretty good too.  Get two pieces of Pizza and press them 
against each other.  Make sure the toppings are on the inside.  Then press 
the iron against the outside.  Heat to the desired temperature.

/college trick

Holy hot-toppings - now that's an idea. Could be combined with extreme
ironing also



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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-15 Thread cbwaters
Alejandro,
You were either a lot more bored, not as hungry, or WAY more industrious
than I was in college.

Cold is just fine, thank you.

Cory
if you pour that in a glass, I'll just have to wash it eventually...

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Question


 An iron works pretty good too.  Get two pieces of Pizza and press them
 against each other.  Make sure the toppings are on the inside.  Then press
 the iron against the outside.  Heat to the desired temperature.

 /college trick

 ~Alejandro





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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
And please, no drippings on the loaned Pentax gear :-)

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:04 AM

Bill Owens wrote:

 Nope, Saturday lunch.

 Bill

aahhh. tanks
annsn the easily confused


 - Original Message -
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:44 PM

  Bill Owens wrote:
  
   Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's
 PDML
   dinner.
  
   Bill
  
  
  whoa - what about the pizza???
  Ain't that for Friday night?
 
  annsan



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
 
 And please, no drippings on the loaned Pentax gear :-)
 
 Cesar
 Panama City, Florida

Perish the thought!

 Hey - your IST*D survived the last pizza fest we
had didn't it??? 

Dont worry, Cesar, the 77mm will only be used in
the field -

annsan (revealed as clumsy by cesar)




 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ann Sanfedele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:04 AM
 
 Bill Owens wrote:
 
  Nope, Saturday lunch.
 
  Bill
 
 aahhh. tanks
 annsn the easily confused
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:44 PM
 
   Bill Owens wrote:
   
Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's
  PDML
dinner.
   
Bill
   
   
   whoa - what about the pizza???
   Ain't that for Friday night?
  
   annsan



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/04, ELEANOUOUOUOR, discombobulated, offered:

Should I be warning anybody official that I'll have one and two-thirds 
hangers-on, or is it totally no problem to bring them? Will there be enough 
food?

I'll have a mondo stash of Twinkies and other goodies for emergencies,
well alright, general eatage.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty


Should I be warning anybody official that I'll have one and two-thirds 
hangers-on, or is it totally no problem to bring them? Will there be enough 
food?

oh yeah, and Bugles. I *love* Bugles.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/04, NORM, discombobulated, offered:

I'll officially volunteer for baby-sitting duty during the seminars...
Norm

No, I'm pretty sure Frank will be going in

ROTFL!


ahem.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:

 whoa - what about the pizza???
 Ain't that for Friday night?

Nope, Saturday lunch.

Bill

c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???

thinks

I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/04, GRAYWOLF-THE-ANALOGUE, discombobulated, offered:

Oh, that's right, you news guys have sat-phones. Great!

Oh I wish, buddy. No such luck. Mobile and GSM, that's me.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread ernreed2
 On 13/5/04, ELEANOUOUOUOR, discombobulated, offered:
 
 Should I be warning anybody official that I'll have one and two-thirds 
 hangers-on, or is it totally no problem to bring them? Will there be enough 
 food?
 
 I'll have a mondo stash of Twinkies and other goodies for emergencies,
 well alright, general eatage.
 
 
 Cheers,
   Cotty

Thanks,
Stve.



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Peter J. Alling
Best way to re-warm it, toaster oven.  But it's great cold too...
Cotty wrote:
On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:
 

whoa - what about the pizza???
Ain't that for Friday night?
 

 

Nope, Saturday lunch.
Bill
   

c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???
thinks
I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread jaalmanza
An iron works pretty good too.  Get two pieces of Pizza and press them 
against each other.  Make sure the toppings are on the inside.  Then press 
the iron against the outside.  Heat to the desired temperature.

/college trick

~Alejandro


 Best way to re-warm it, toaster oven.  But it's great cold too...
 
 Cotty wrote:
 
 On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:
 
   
 
 whoa - what about the pizza???
 Ain't that for Friday night?
   
 
 
   
 
 Nope, Saturday lunch.
 
 Bill
 
 
 
 c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???
 
 thinks
 
 I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
 
 
 Cheers,
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Cotty


 I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
 
   Cotty


I'd advise turning the toaster on it's side first,
otherwise all the toppings fall off.

Sound advice John. I was thinking more like over an open fire. I need one
of those pizza shovels they use, but with holes in it?


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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread frank theriault
If people give me beer, I'll do almost anything.  Make chili.  Watch kids.  
Pretend to be interested in banal conversations.  Whatever...

I'm very good at feigning interest.  I sit, hand stroking chin, sagely 
nodding my head at regular intervals, throwing in the odd h, really, 
and no kidding?.  All the while, I'm thinking about the cute waitress I 
met at the restaurant earlier that day.

How could I not talk to you, Cesar?  I've got to make friendly with you at 
least until I get to fondle the snakeskin LX...  vbg

BTW, the comment about I'll do almost anything for beer reminds me of the 
joke:

What's the difference between lab rats and lawyers?
There are some things lab rats ~won't~ do...
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFM Question
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:07:24 -0400
Make the time!  Make the time!
Worse comes to worst, have Frank help out :-)
I just keep volunteering Frank, maybe he won't talk to me now,
Cesar
Panama City, Florida
-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 PM
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with
paying
attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need 
to
check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll 
just
add another can or two of beans 8-)

If I have the time I'll make up a big batch of my famous Anglo-Mexican
Vegetarian Chili (TM)!
--
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Photography and writing
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread frank theriault
Huh?  Wha?
What did I do now?
-frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Awww c'mon man...it's like battle scars.  You'll be telling all your 
friends
this spot here is where TV slopped Bill's chili on my lens when frank
stepped in the pizza and fell off the table at the great PDML gathering at
GFM in '04

;)
hey, it's Friday, right?
Cory

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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread frank theriault
...I get it now!  Took a few readings, but now I get it.
That was quite humourous, Cotty.  Quite...
cheers,
frank
The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist 
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer



From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No, I'm pretty sure Frank will be going in
ROTFL!
ahem.
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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread TMP

note to self: self, if you hear Knarf say h, really, or no
kidding? during GFM, get out your biggest, longest, heaviest lens, and bop
him on the head with it..

end note...

tan.

-Original Message-
From: frank theriault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 15 May 2004 8:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFM Question


If people give me beer, I'll do almost anything.  Make chili.  Watch kids.
Pretend to be interested in banal conversations.  Whatever...

I'm very good at feigning interest.  I sit, hand stroking chin, sagely
nodding my head at regular intervals, throwing in the odd h, really,
and no kidding?.  All the while, I'm thinking about the cute waitress I
met at the restaurant earlier that day.

How could I not talk to you, Cesar?  I've got to make friendly with you at
least until I get to fondle the snakeskin LX...  vbg

BTW, the comment about I'll do almost anything for beer reminds me of the
joke:

What's the difference between lab rats and lawyers?

There are some things lab rats ~won't~ do...

cheers,
frank

The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds.  The pessimist
fears it is true.  -J. Robert Oppenheimer




From: Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFM Question
Date: Thu, 13 May 2004 23:07:24 -0400

Make the time!  Make the time!

Worse comes to worst, have Frank help out :-)

I just keep volunteering Frank, maybe he won't talk to me now,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:28 PM

Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with
paying
 attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need
to
 check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
 Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
 your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll
just
 add another can or two of beans 8-)

If I have the time I'll make up a big batch of my famous Anglo-Mexican
Vegetarian Chili (TM)!

--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Stan Halpin
Cold straight from the fridge super supreme pizza - the 
breakfast of Gods! Great for hangovers! But it is so hard to 
have left-overs available.

Stan
Cotty wrote:
On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:

whoa - what about the pizza???
Ain't that for Friday night?

Nope, Saturday lunch.
Bill

c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???
thinks
I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
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RE: GFM Question

2004-05-14 Thread Shaun Canning
Ah Stan, you're a man after my own heart...

Cheers

Shaun

Dr. Shaun Canning
Cultural Heritage Services
11 Lawrence Way
Karratha, Western Australia, 
6714

0414-967644
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.heritageservices.com.au


-Original Message-
From: Stan Halpin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GFM Question

Cold straight from the fridge super supreme pizza - the 
breakfast of Gods! Great for hangovers! But it is so hard to 
have left-overs available.

Stan

Cotty wrote:

 On 14/5/04, CHILLI BILLIE, discombobulated, offered:
 
 
whoa - what about the pizza???
Ain't that for Friday night?
 
 
Nope, Saturday lunch.

Bill
 
 
 c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-old???
 
 thinks
 
 I wonder if it's possible to toast pizza...
 
 
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Bill Owens
The only thing you'd miss would be the seminars.  We'd be glad to have you.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: GFM Question


 Since I never know where I'll be the next week, it's consequently hard 
 for me to plan stuff like GFM. However, I might be able to make it, but 
 I think it's sold out.which is really not a problem for me (I've 
 only shot two rolls of slide film in my entire life).. My question is - 
 is it still possible to go there and hang out, burn some film and 
 socialize with the PDML crowd (and of course drink Frank's beer) for a 
 day or two?
 Norm
 
 



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered:

Since I never know where I'll be the next week, it's consequently hard 
for me to plan stuff like GFM. However, I might be able to make it, but 
I think it's sold out.which is really not a problem for me (I've 
only shot two rolls of slide film in my entire life).. My question is - 
is it still possible to go there and hang out, burn some film and 
socialize with the PDML crowd (and of course drink Frank's beer) for a 
day or two?

Absolutely! You'll have to pay the normal Grandfather Mountain admission
fee ($12.00 I believe) and you won't be able to attend the presentations
or participate in the photo contest, but it's still a fabulous location
for nature photography and the educational value of hanging out with the
PDML crowd is, erm... impossible to describe :)

In fact, due to the numbers, unprecedented.

BTW, I presume everyone has to bring a laptop and continue to communicate
electronically? Lurkers may just look over shoulders.



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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Cotty
On 13/5/04, HEMI HEAD STENQUIST, discombobulated, offered:

That's good news. I may make the trip as well if I can clear the calendar. 
Paul

YO. Please try buddy. It would be so good to meet yer.


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 5/13/2004 2:29:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
BTW, I presume everyone has to bring a laptop and continue to communicate
electronically? Lurkers may just look over shoulders.



Cheers,
  Cotty
--
Well, I don't have a laptop, and I presume a few others don't as well.

So basically that means you can report back to PDML, and we (those without) 
won't be able to contradict you.

Hey, you won't BELIEVE what happened tonight...

Marnie aka Doe ;-)



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Bill Owens
No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with paying
attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need to
check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll just
add another can or two of beans 8-)

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Question


 Norm asked:
   Since I never know where I'll be the next week, it's consequently hard
   for me to plan stuff like GFM. However, I might be able to make it,
but
   I think it's sold out.which is really not a problem for me (I've
   only shot two rolls of slide film in my entire life).. My question
is -
   is it still possible to go there and hang out, burn some film and
   socialize with the PDML crowd (and of course drink Frank's beer) for a
   day or two?

 and Bill replied
  The only thing you'd miss would be the seminars.  We'd be glad to have
you.

 Should I be warning anybody official that I'll have one and two-thirds
 hangers-on, or is it totally no problem to bring them? Will there be
enough
 food?

 ERN






Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Norm Baugher
I'll officially volunteer for baby-sitting duty during the seminars...
Norm
Bill Owens wrote:

No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with paying
attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need to
check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll just
add another can or two of beans 8-)
 

 




Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread graywolf
Since that is exactly what I will be doing... Yes it is.

--

Norm Baugher wrote:

Since I never know where I'll be the next week, it's consequently hard 
for me to plan stuff like GFM. However, I might be able to make it, but 
I think it's sold out.which is really not a problem for me (I've 
only shot two rolls of slide film in my entire life).. My question is - 
is it still possible to go there and hang out, burn some film and 
socialize with the PDML crowd (and of course drink Frank's beer) for a 
day or two?
Norm


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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread graywolf
Oh, that's right, you news guys have sat-phones. Great!

--

Cotty wrote:

On 13/5/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, offered:


Since I never know where I'll be the next week, it's consequently hard 
for me to plan stuff like GFM. However, I might be able to make it, but 
I think it's sold out.which is really not a problem for me (I've 
only shot two rolls of slide film in my entire life).. My question is - 
is it still possible to go there and hang out, burn some film and 
socialize with the PDML crowd (and of course drink Frank's beer) for a 
day or two?
Absolutely! You'll have to pay the normal Grandfather Mountain admission
fee ($12.00 I believe) and you won't be able to attend the presentations
or participate in the photo contest, but it's still a fabulous location
for nature photography and the educational value of hanging out with the
PDML crowd is, erm... impossible to describe :)


In fact, due to the numbers, unprecedented.

BTW, I presume everyone has to bring a laptop and continue to communicate
electronically? Lurkers may just look over shoulders.


Cheers,
  Cotty
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Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with paying
attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need to
check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll just
add another can or two of beans 8-)

If I have the time I'll make up a big batch of my famous Anglo-Mexican
Vegetarian Chili (TM)!

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Bill Owens
Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's PDML
dinner.

Bill

- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Question


 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No problem bringing them, although the auditorium will be filled with
paying
 attendees and they won't be allowed to attend the seminars.  You'll need
to
 check with the program director when you arrive about paying for their
 Saturday buffet.  All other meals, except my chili on Friday evening are
 your own responsibility.  If we should start to run low on chili, I'll
just
 add another can or two of beans 8-)

 If I have the time I'll make up a big batch of my famous Anglo-Mexican
 Vegetarian Chili (TM)!

 -- 
 Mark Roberts
 Photography and writing
 www.robertstech.com






Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bill Owens wrote:
 
 Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's PDML
 dinner.
 
 Bill
 

whoa - what about the pizza???
Ain't that for Friday night?

annsan



Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Bill Owens
Nope, Saturday lunch.

Bill

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From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: GFM Question


 Bill Owens wrote:
 
  Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's
PDML
  dinner.
 
  Bill
 
 
 whoa - what about the pizza???
 Ain't that for Friday night?

 annsan






Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Herb Chong
depends on what he is babysitting.

Herb...
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 Norm said:
  I'll officially volunteer for baby-sitting duty during the seminars...
 
 Are you SERIOUS??!!!




Re: GFM Question

2004-05-13 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Bill Owens wrote:
 
 Nope, Saturday lunch.
 
 Bill

aahhh. tanks
annsn the easily confused

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 11:44 PM
 Subject: Re: GFM Question
 
  Bill Owens wrote:
  
   Sounds good to me.  Mayhaps we can do both yours and mine for Friday's
 PDML
   dinner.
  
   Bill
  
  
  whoa - what about the pizza???
  Ain't that for Friday night?
 
  annsan