Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hello Steve,

Keep in mind that you are doing fill flash in daylight for portrait
distances.  It is low, but adequate.  I've got a couple of hundred
shots of weddings under my belt to be satisfied with it.

-- 
Best regards,
Bruce


Thursday, March 11, 2004, 6:04:06 PM, you wrote:

SJ> What's the GN of the flash at 1/4000 sync though?

SJ> S

SJ> Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> Hello Tanya,
>> 
>> Not sure if you are aware, but the *istD coupled with the AF360FGZ can
>> do high speed synch at up to 1/4000.  Set the flash mode all the way
>> to the right (HSS) and set the camera to wireless/HSS.  Once you do
>> that, you can use all of your shutter speeds.  That, along with flash
>> compensation, is the big reason to use the AF360FGZ right now.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> Thursday, March 11, 2004, 6:33:07 AM, you wrote:
>> 
>> TMP> So sorry!  I forgot to include the technical stuff!
>> 
>> TMP> Most of them were shot on AV at around f4-f6.7.  I didn't open my lenses too
>> TMP> wide as she was moving around to much and it was difficult to keep her in
>> TMP> focus.  Also, I actually had too much light and could only sync at 1/150th,
>> TMP> so I needed to stop down as far as I could to avoid overexposure.
>> 
>> TMP> Lenses - I used the Tamron 28-200 for a few of them (all would have been
>> TMP> around the 135-200mm mark), but most were shot with my Tamron 135mm f2.5.
>> TMP> It is an old, heavy all metal manual lens.  I LOVE this lens to death, it
>> TMP> yields beautiful results.  It is a little soft between f2.5 and f4 but that
>> TMP> is actually perfect for the portraits that I shoot.
>> 
>> TMP> Does anyone know anymore about this lens?  I have no idea about it - it was
>> TMP> one of my first every photography related Ebay purchases and it was a pure
>> TMP> fluke as I really had no idea what I was bidding on at the time.  Would love
>> TMP> to hear if anyone else has any experience with this lens?
>> 
>> TMP> tia,
>> TMP> tan.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> TMP> -Original Message-
>> TMP> From: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> TMP> Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:08 PM
>> TMP> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> TMP> Subject: Re: more stuff from fairygirl...
>> 
>> 
>> TMP> Some very nice shots! Please explain how you select lenses i.e. 90mm through
>> TMP> 200mm seem to produce good portraits in the right situation. You mention
>> TMP> 200mm for safe distance. Which others did you use?
>> TMP> - Original Message -
>> TMP> From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> TMP> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> TMP> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:14 AM
>> TMP> Subject: more stuff from fairygirl...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>
>>>>hi guys,
>>>>
>>>>just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday
>> 
>> TMP> for
>> 
>>>>those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
>>>>this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
>>>>posted the other day.
>>>>
>>>>This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
>>>>her look "cute".  PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT
>> 
>> TMP> want
>> 
>>>>to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
>>>>years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!  So initially, I had to
>>>>shoot without flash using a 200mm lens to keep a "safe" distance from her
>> 
>> TMP> to
>> 
>>>>capture her candidly.  Toward the end, she relaxed a little and I
>> 
>> TMP> distracted
>> 
>>>>her by bribing her with lollies and picking some lillies out of the water
>>>>for her to play with, so she became a little easier to work with.
>>>>
>>>>Her mum is a good friend of mine who I have shot many times in the past
>>>>(whilst she was pregnant and when the little girl was a newborn), but this
>>>>time she insisted on paying me "properly" and on me treating her as I
>> 
>> TMP> would
>> 
>>>>a true client as she felt "sick of getting freebies" from me all the time.
>>>>It was really nice to be appreciated by a friend!
>>>>
>>&g

Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Stan Halpin
Hey Tan! You are good. Your clients are fortunate to have 
you. I did not go through them all - I stopped on 1398. You 
can discard the rest, this one alone tells the whole story 
about the young lady.

Cheers!

Stan

Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

hi guys,

just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday for
those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
posted the other day.
This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
her look "cute".  PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT want
to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!  So initially, I had to
shoot without flash using a 200mm lens to keep a "safe" distance from her to
capture her candidly.  Toward the end, she relaxed a little and I distracted
her by bribing her with lollies and picking some lillies out of the water
for her to play with, so she became a little easier to work with.
Her mum is a good friend of mine who I have shot many times in the past
(whilst she was pregnant and when the little girl was a newborn), but this
time she insisted on paying me "properly" and on me treating her as I would
a true client as she felt "sick of getting freebies" from me all the time.
It was really nice to be appreciated by a friend!
So, she is over the moon with the results, and I was quite happy too, I can
definitely see my work with the *ist D improving as I get to know it
better...
Still, I think there is a bit too much flash on some of those shots toward
the end - still learning about flash in a major way, so I expect that this
will improve over time...
Here's the link:

http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html

I love this one...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1398.html

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect of the
flash?  I do have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots anyways,
which is a great thing.  I am just wanting to soften so that it doesn't
appear to dominate the entire picture, such as in this shot:
http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1386.html

Obviously, I can't bounce it when I am shooting on location such as these.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Ok, so I am off to Brisbane again in the morning, so may be a bit quiet
until Monday - will check my emails in my motel tomorrow night though, so
don't go talking behind my back, ok?!? lol...
Have a great weekend all!

tan.





Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Steve Jolly
What's the GN of the flash at 1/4000 sync though?

S

Bruce Dayton wrote:

Hello Tanya,

Not sure if you are aware, but the *istD coupled with the AF360FGZ can
do high speed synch at up to 1/4000.  Set the flash mode all the way
to the right (HSS) and set the camera to wireless/HSS.  Once you do
that, you can use all of your shutter speeds.  That, along with flash
compensation, is the big reason to use the AF360FGZ right now.
HTH,

Bruce

Thursday, March 11, 2004, 6:33:07 AM, you wrote:

TMP> So sorry!  I forgot to include the technical stuff!

TMP> Most of them were shot on AV at around f4-f6.7.  I didn't open my lenses too
TMP> wide as she was moving around to much and it was difficult to keep her in
TMP> focus.  Also, I actually had too much light and could only sync at 1/150th,
TMP> so I needed to stop down as far as I could to avoid overexposure.
TMP> Lenses - I used the Tamron 28-200 for a few of them (all would have been
TMP> around the 135-200mm mark), but most were shot with my Tamron 135mm f2.5.
TMP> It is an old, heavy all metal manual lens.  I LOVE this lens to death, it
TMP> yields beautiful results.  It is a little soft between f2.5 and f4 but that
TMP> is actually perfect for the portraits that I shoot.
TMP> Does anyone know anymore about this lens?  I have no idea about it - it was
TMP> one of my first every photography related Ebay purchases and it was a pure
TMP> fluke as I really had no idea what I was bidding on at the time.  Would love
TMP> to hear if anyone else has any experience with this lens?
TMP> tia,
TMP> tan.


TMP> -Original Message-
TMP> From: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
TMP> Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:08 PM
TMP> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TMP> Subject: Re: more stuff from fairygirl...
TMP> Some very nice shots! Please explain how you select lenses i.e. 90mm through
TMP> 200mm seem to produce good portraits in the right situation. You mention
TMP> 200mm for safe distance. Which others did you use?
TMP> - Original Message -
TMP> From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TMP> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
TMP> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:14 AM
TMP> Subject: more stuff from fairygirl...


hi guys,

just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday
TMP> for

those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
posted the other day.
This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
her look "cute".  PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT
TMP> want

to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!  So initially, I had to
shoot without flash using a 200mm lens to keep a "safe" distance from her
TMP> to

capture her candidly.  Toward the end, she relaxed a little and I
TMP> distracted

her by bribing her with lollies and picking some lillies out of the water
for her to play with, so she became a little easier to work with.
Her mum is a good friend of mine who I have shot many times in the past
(whilst she was pregnant and when the little girl was a newborn), but this
time she insisted on paying me "properly" and on me treating her as I
TMP> would

a true client as she felt "sick of getting freebies" from me all the time.
It was really nice to be appreciated by a friend!
So, she is over the moon with the results, and I was quite happy too, I
TMP> can

definitely see my work with the *ist D improving as I get to know it
better...
Still, I think there is a bit too much flash on some of those shots toward
the end - still learning about flash in a major way, so I expect that this
will improve over time...
Here's the link:

http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html

I love this one...

http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1398.html

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect of
TMP> the

flash?  I do have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots
TMP> anyways,

which is a great thing.  I am just wanting to soften so that it doesn't
appear to dominate the entire picture, such as in this shot:
http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1386.html

Obviously, I can't bounce it when I am shooting on location such as these.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Ok, so I am off to Brisbane again in the morning, so may be a bit quiet
until Monday - will check my emails in my motel tomorrow night though, so
don't go talking behind my back, ok?!? lol...
Have a great weekend all!

tan.










Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Anthony Farr
Tan,

A good job of portaiture, that.

WRT your request for suggestions about flash

> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect of
the
> flash?  I do have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots
anyways,
> which is a great thing.  I am just wanting to soften so that it doesn't
> appear to dominate the entire picture, such as in this shot:
>
 my preference when a portrait subject is in the shade, but the
background is fully lit, is to let the background overexpose about a stop.
This prevents the ambiguity of lighting where the shadows in the foreground
of the shot are brighter than the sunlight in the background, which draws
attention to the presence of the flash.  Simple as that, and the same thing
applies when the outside world is visible through an open window, it should
be brighter by at least a stop otherwise it doesn't look natural.

regards,
Anthony Farr




RE: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Tanya Mayer Photography
So sorry!  I forgot to include the technical stuff!

Most of them were shot on AV at around f4-f6.7.  I didn't open my lenses too
wide as she was moving around to much and it was difficult to keep her in
focus.  Also, I actually had too much light and could only sync at 1/150th,
so I needed to stop down as far as I could to avoid overexposure.

Lenses - I used the Tamron 28-200 for a few of them (all would have been
around the 135-200mm mark), but most were shot with my Tamron 135mm f2.5.
It is an old, heavy all metal manual lens.  I LOVE this lens to death, it
yields beautiful results.  It is a little soft between f2.5 and f4 but that
is actually perfect for the portraits that I shoot.

Does anyone know anymore about this lens?  I have no idea about it - it was
one of my first every photography related Ebay purchases and it was a pure
fluke as I really had no idea what I was bidding on at the time.  Would love
to hear if anyone else has any experience with this lens?

tia,
tan.



-Original Message-
From: Hal & Sandra Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2004 10:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: more stuff from fairygirl...


Some very nice shots! Please explain how you select lenses i.e. 90mm through
200mm seem to produce good portraits in the right situation. You mention
200mm for safe distance. Which others did you use?
- Original Message -
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:14 AM
Subject: more stuff from fairygirl...


>
>
> hi guys,
>
> just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday
for
> those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
> this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
> posted the other day.
>
> This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
> her look "cute".  PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT
want
> to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
> years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!  So initially, I had to
> shoot without flash using a 200mm lens to keep a "safe" distance from her
to
> capture her candidly.  Toward the end, she relaxed a little and I
distracted
> her by bribing her with lollies and picking some lillies out of the water
> for her to play with, so she became a little easier to work with.
>
> Her mum is a good friend of mine who I have shot many times in the past
> (whilst she was pregnant and when the little girl was a newborn), but this
> time she insisted on paying me "properly" and on me treating her as I
would
> a true client as she felt "sick of getting freebies" from me all the time.
> It was really nice to be appreciated by a friend!
>
> So, she is over the moon with the results, and I was quite happy too, I
can
> definitely see my work with the *ist D improving as I get to know it
> better...
>
> Still, I think there is a bit too much flash on some of those shots toward
> the end - still learning about flash in a major way, so I expect that this
> will improve over time...
>
> Here's the link:
>
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html
>
> I love this one...
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1398.html
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect of
the
> flash?  I do have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots
anyways,
> which is a great thing.  I am just wanting to soften so that it doesn't
> appear to dominate the entire picture, such as in this shot:
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1386.html
>
> Obviously, I can't bounce it when I am shooting on location such as these.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Ok, so I am off to Brisbane again in the morning, so may be a bit quiet
> until Monday - will check my emails in my motel tomorrow night though, so
> don't go talking behind my back, ok?!? lol...
>
> Have a great weekend all!
>
> tan.
>
>




RE: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Rob Brigham wrote:

> If you have the 360FGZ then you could lower the flash out put using the
> compensation on the flash?

Does the exposure compensation trick work with the *ist-D?

Kostas



Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Jostein
On 11 Mar 2004 at 19:14, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote:

> This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to
> make her look "cute".  

What's this thing about "cute"? Everyone who's had children know what 
they can be like when they are two years old and discover that they 
actually can have a say in things. Most notably the word "no".

> PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she
> DID NOT want to be photographed and is very intense and totally
> precocious!  She is two years old and was telling her mum to "Get
> Lost"!  

LOL.
Sounds like a true toddler to me.

When I looked at the pictures, I could sense the attitude in that 
kid. She's probably going to be a little monster for a while, and 
then catch up with "cute" when it suits her. 

I'm not a portraits photographer, but your photos tell a good story 
about a young person. For that reason, I really like them. I can't 
tell you much about techniques and stuff, but as for capturing the 
nature of a strong-headed toddler, I'm impressed.

Cheers,
Jostein

-- 
Photos at: http://www.oksne.net
--



Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Hal & Sandra Davis
Some very nice shots! Please explain how you select lenses i.e. 90mm through
200mm seem to produce good portraits in the right situation. You mention
200mm for safe distance. Which others did you use?
- Original Message - 
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:14 AM
Subject: more stuff from fairygirl...


>
>
> hi guys,
>
> just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday
for
> those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
> this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
> posted the other day.
>
> This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
> her look "cute".  PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT
want
> to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
> years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!  So initially, I had to
> shoot without flash using a 200mm lens to keep a "safe" distance from her
to
> capture her candidly.  Toward the end, she relaxed a little and I
distracted
> her by bribing her with lollies and picking some lillies out of the water
> for her to play with, so she became a little easier to work with.
>
> Her mum is a good friend of mine who I have shot many times in the past
> (whilst she was pregnant and when the little girl was a newborn), but this
> time she insisted on paying me "properly" and on me treating her as I
would
> a true client as she felt "sick of getting freebies" from me all the time.
> It was really nice to be appreciated by a friend!
>
> So, she is over the moon with the results, and I was quite happy too, I
can
> definitely see my work with the *ist D improving as I get to know it
> better...
>
> Still, I think there is a bit too much flash on some of those shots toward
> the end - still learning about flash in a major way, so I expect that this
> will improve over time...
>
> Here's the link:
>
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html
>
> I love this one...
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1398.html
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect of
the
> flash?  I do have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots
anyways,
> which is a great thing.  I am just wanting to soften so that it doesn't
> appear to dominate the entire picture, such as in this shot:
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1386.html
>
> Obviously, I can't bounce it when I am shooting on location such as these.
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Ok, so I am off to Brisbane again in the morning, so may be a bit quiet
> until Monday - will check my emails in my motel tomorrow night though, so
> don't go talking behind my back, ok?!? lol...
>
> Have a great weekend all!
>
> tan.
>
>



RE: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Rob Brigham
If you have the 360FGZ then you could lower the flash out put using the
compensation on the flash?  Alternatively you could take a projector
screen or some white card with you and bounce off that.  The other thing
you may want to look at is a gold diffuser, stofen do them and they can
give pleasing skin tones.

Alternatively, you could use contrast techniques in your image editor to
adjust things like this:
http://www.calcot.plus.com/Pentax/TanIMGP1386.jpg  I think that may be
closer to what you are looking for?

Rob

> -Original Message-
> From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> Still, I think there is a bit too much flash on some of those 
> shots toward the end - still learning about flash in a major 
> way, so I expect that this will improve over time...
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I may "soften" the effect
of the flash?  I do 
> have a diffuser over it, but I'm not getting hotspots anyways, which
is a great thing.  I am 
> just wanting to soften so that it doesn't appear to dominate the
entire picture, such as in 
> this shot:
>
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1386.html



Re: more stuff from fairygirl...

2004-03-11 Thread Lasse Karlsson
From: "Tanya Mayer Photography" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> just posting a link to a gallery of kid portraits that I shot yesterday for
> those who asked about portraits and the *istD.  The lighting was ideal for
> this shoot and the results were much, much better than the couple that I
> posted the other day.
> 
> This little girl is a very unusual looking child, and it was hard to make
> her look "cute".

She doesn't look very unusual to me, and I do think she's cute, but I guess you meant 
"cute" as in kind of "fairy-cute"(?) or the like.

> PLUS, boy does she ever have an attitude, she DID NOT want
> to be photographed and is very intense and totally precocious!  She is two
> years old and was telling her mum to "Get Lost"!

:-)
Make a note of this, and remind her about it, when you do another portrait series of 
her in twenty years. (I'd love to see that.) In between make yourself available for 
shoots of her at intervals of a couple of years.

I think it's a great series of photographs. I feel like I've got a good glimpse of 
this young lady's personality. (I like the one you picked out too very much.)
There are many good shots. Some of my favourites are of the mother and daughter 
together. A few great ones there. Would have liked to see all of them in colour.
There is a (just) a handful that I would personally have left out for a presentation.

One thing about the framing: there is a tendency to put the subject in the middle of 
the horizontal(?) frames, which I think could have been a bit more varied.
Also there is a tendency to frame in to "half-body" shots, as well as - in my taste - 
cropping the top of her head a bit tight. I think this could have been varied to a 
greater extent too.
If this is your "style", I respect that, but as a viewer, I wouldn't mind some more 
variation.

These minor reflections of mine doesn't take away a bit of the fact that both you and 
the mother, as well as the young lady when she will review them at a later time, have 
all reasons to be very happy about what you produced.

(I am no expert on shooting flash, in fact I too await good advice on the questions 
you posed. However, I think some of the flash shots could digitally be made a bit 
warmer.) 

Good work!
Thanks for sharing.

Lasse

> Here's the link:
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/index.html
 
> I love this one...
> http://www.tanyamayer.com/avagallery/pages/IMGP1398.html