Re: K-5 dead

[kwaller]

But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.


MARK!

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From: "Christine Nielsen" 

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Subject: Re: K-5 dead



I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
(aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
any more than I am already.

But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.

:)
-c

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Darren Addy  
wrote:

I find these reports of premature K-5 issues a little disconcerting. I
don't know if any of you use Twitter (or other social media) but
making a little noise on there (and directing comments to Pentax Ricoh
Japan, as well as in your home country) could get you a little
expedited attention.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Christine Nielsen  
wrote:
Ah...yikes. Well, I would think you still have a good case... I hope it 
all works out in your favor.





On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Paul Ewins  
wrote:


No, according to the tech I took it to first (assuming it to be a less 
serious issue) took one look at it and told me the shutter has collapsed 
and must be replaced. Basically the shutter doesn't retract fully so you 
are left with a black stripe across the top of all of the images. If you 
go through the sensor clean routine you can see the shutter blades 
blocking the bottom of the sensor. In all other respects it still works 
normally. Apparently it is the usual way that shutters fail when they 
have been heavily used, except that mine has only done 8% of it's rated 
life.


Paul




On 17/06/2013, at 10:49 AM, Christine Nielsen  
wrote:


Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't 
already... It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a 
new mirror/shutter assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, 
IMHO.


Good luck!




On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  
wrote:


My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter 
failed after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under 
our consumer protection laws even though it is out of warranty.


Paul


On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:


On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:


It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the 
National High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the 
first  400 meters of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in 
which my son & his team were competing .. The camera stopped working. 
I had shot a couple dozen frames at the meet already, no problem. 
But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no 
matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, shooting 
mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). 
Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this 
morning.


That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the 
power

board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a
paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.




Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the 
mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get 
home.  Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money 
after bad, at least on this camera.


Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday


So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.
One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
all three team up for a good one.



(For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, 
my husband was shooting video with it at the 

Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

I'm aware.
As I tell my own kids, don't put it in email or or on the web if you
wouldn't want me to see it.  (and they say: "Hahaha! We don't use
email!")   :)

It wouldn't bother me if someone were to find these comments... I'm
just not ready to mount a public shaming campaign of Pentax on
facebook & twitter right now.



On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
>> angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
>> off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
>> this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
>> a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
>> cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
>> Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
>> those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
>> I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
>> when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
>> failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
>> (aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
>> are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
>> and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
>> any more than I am already.
>>
>> But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.
>
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Thanks, Paul,  Maybe all is not lost.  I'll check out that tutorial...
and take another look at the footage for any salvageable bits...

:)
-c

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Paul Sorenson  wrote:
> All is not lost for stills if your husband got some decent video with the
> K-01.  In LR4 you can copy a single frame as a jpg at the same resolution as
> the video.
>
> It's explained just after the 5 minute mark in the video tutorial on this
> page...
>
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/lightroom/using/WS2bacbdf8d487e5826cbcbebb12ac414fc6a-8000.html
>
> http://tinyurl.com/kdzqmtw
>
> -p
>
>
> On 6/17/2013 2:01 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
>> angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
>> off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
>> this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
>> a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
>> cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
>> Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
>> those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
>> I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
>> when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
>> failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
>> (aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
>> are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
>> and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
>> any more than I am already.
>>
>> But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.
>>
>> :)
>> -c
>>
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Re: K-5 dead

[Aahz Maruch]

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>
> I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
> angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
> off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
> this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
> a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
> cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
> Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
> those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
> I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
> when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
> failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
> (aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
> are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
> and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
> any more than I am already.
> 
> But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.

Side note: I don't know whether it's intended, but this list *IS* public
(I've previously forwarded posts randomly because of that).  Just take a
look at the archives:

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Re: K-5 dead

[Paul Sorenson]

All is not lost for stills if your husband got some decent video with 
the K-01.  In LR4 you can copy a single frame as a jpg at the same 
resolution as the video.


It's explained just after the 5 minute mark in the video tutorial on 
this page...


http://help.adobe.com/en_US/lightroom/using/WS2bacbdf8d487e5826cbcbebb12ac414fc6a-8000.html

http://tinyurl.com/kdzqmtw

-p

On 6/17/2013 2:01 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
(aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
any more than I am already.

But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.

:)
-c




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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Yes, I was thinking that would have been a fine idea, as my camera is
20 month old already... I was wondering how much that would have cost
me, so I went out to B&H to check... that item is discontinued!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/753276-REG/Pentax_80227_Two_Year_Extended_Warranty_for.html

H

:)
-c

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>> Thanks for the sympathy... Funny how you never need that back up until you 
>> really really need it.
>
> After the problems i had with my D2H, i always take a back up and the
> extended warranties. I have under 3K on my K-5 so i'm about to start
> worring now. Only problem i have had on occasion, is after taking a
> photo the LCD screen only shows it as B&W, after a turn off, then on,
> its ok.
>
> Dave
>
>
> I didn't need it 10 minutes, five minutes, one minute before the k-5
> failed.  But when it failed, it certainly did so in craptacular
> fashion.  I had a moment's panicked thought of ripping the k-01 out of
> my husband's hands in the middle of the race, but... decided against
> that. Later on, I thought I should have commandeered a fellow parent's
> Rebel, that was sitting unused
>>
>> ;)
>> -c
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the
>>> mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get
>>> home.  Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money
>>> after bad, at least on this camera.
>>
>> Sorry to hear that, not much fun when something you rely on breaks.
>>
>>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip,
>>> my husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that,
>>> anyway.)
>>
>> Ayup, I'm a big believer in backup equipment.  (Not always good about
>> practicing my beliefs, of course...)
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

I hear what you are saying, and I know some have had success with that
angle.  Not sure I'm a prolific enough social media maven to pull that
off.  Plus, there's another wrinkle to that, as I see it.  And maybe
this is just me & my weird perspective, but... Shooting Pentax can be
a lonely existence.  It's an oddball choice among people who use
cameras generally, and people who use cameras for money especially.
Sometimes, I am called upon to defend that choice, or explain it, to
those who are unfamiliar.  Fine.  But, that becomes harder to do when
I start to publicly mouth off about the failings of my gear.  I think
when a CaNikon photographer grouses about their camera's latest
failing, nobody questions why they were using that brand to begin with
(aside from the usual brand wars/fanboys/girls). My social networks
are intertwined with those of friends, family, customers, colleagues
and I just don't feel like exposing myself to that line of questioning
any more than I am already.

But, I'll bitch & moan with you guys all day.  That's fine.

:)
-c

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> I find these reports of premature K-5 issues a little disconcerting. I
> don't know if any of you use Twitter (or other social media) but
> making a little noise on there (and directing comments to Pentax Ricoh
> Japan, as well as in your home country) could get you a little
> expedited attention.
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>> Ah...yikes. Well, I would think you still have a good case... I hope it all 
>> works out in your favor.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>>
>> No, according to the tech I took it to first (assuming it to be a less 
>> serious issue) took one look at it and told me the shutter has collapsed and 
>> must be replaced. Basically the shutter doesn't retract fully so you are 
>> left with a black stripe across the top of all of the images. If you go 
>> through the sensor clean routine you can see the shutter blades blocking the 
>> bottom of the sensor. In all other respects it still works normally. 
>> Apparently it is the usual way that shutters fail when they have been 
>> heavily used, except that mine has only done 8% of it's rated life.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17/06/2013, at 10:49 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>>
>>> Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't 
>>> already... It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a new 
>>> mirror/shutter assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, IMHO.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>>>
>>> My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter 
>>> failed after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our 
>>> consumer protection laws even though it is out of warranty.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>>
 On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the 
> National High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  
> 400 meters of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my 
> son & his team were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot 
> a couple dozen frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it 
> just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, 
> in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it 
> turns on, but when you press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says 
> "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That 
> was yesterday, same story this morning.

 That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
 board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a
 paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.


>
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the 
> mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  
> Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, 
> at least on this camera.
>
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday

 So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.
 One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
 different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
 a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
 yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
 all three team up for a good one.

>
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, 
> anyway.)

 I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
 the ra

Re: K-5 Dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Hi Bipin,

I'm sorry to have worried you but it sounds like you were doing
quite alright in that department on your own, anyway.  ;)

I will keep you posted on our progress... Today, the camera is
resurrected, after a 36 hour cooling-off period in the camera bag.
Shooting fine, and I can't get it to replicate its bad behavior from
Saturday.  But, I have spoken with Customer Service, and will be
sending it in, anyway.  When I called the US customer service number,
I spoke with Paul, who is located in North Carolina (same state as my
unfortunate episode...hmmm).  While not super-helpful, he was
sympathetic, and confirmed that I did all the right things, in terms
of trouble shooting, in the field.  He suspects maybe a faulty
connection, but couldn't say for sure, of course.

I will say this...  it didn't take me long after fuming over my
camera's meltdown to start spouting off about maybe I should ditch my
whole kit & switch to another brand.  Surely Nikon users don't have to
put up with this crap?  Well, I invite anyone to try a little google
search on "d800 autofocus issue" for starters... Bottom line is, I
think all of these (or "some of all of these") manufacturers' machines
will have issues at one point or another.  For now, I will hold off on
selling my gear...

It is too bad that there isn't a good Pentax service center where you
are, Bipin.  Though I didn't get any resolution yet, I wasn't unhappy
with the way my call was handled today --  I was glad that the phone
was answered by someone in the US, and that I will send the camera to
a US service center that I have dealt with successfully before, and
they treated me as if I were a customer they wanted to keep.  These
are not always guaranteed when dealing with customer service of any
kind.  I haven't taken any options off the table, I just don't believe
that conditions are really any better elsewhere, and may be worse,
from a service & reliability standpoint.  Why would a bigger company
care about me?

(btw, maybe Pentax needs to offshore their India service to Pentax
USA... wouldn't that be a switch!  lol )

Until next time...
-c



On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Bipin Gupta  wrote:
> I am an "unfortunate?" owner of a K-5 bought this Jan with an 18-135
> WR lens from Henrys of Toronto for CAD 1108 - Serial # 4360179 &
> Internal Serial # 7017589 (from stolen camera finder) - made by
> Pentax-Ricoh (not Pentax-Hoya).
> I was under the impression the K-5 woes were addressed by Ricoh,
> before I ventured / risked into buying one.
> And I live in Bangalore, India where Pentax has no presence
> whatsoever, or an Office or a Service Center. Fools like me here buy
> Pentax gear - fell in love with a K1000 SE bought ages ago from Oldens
> of New York - Note: Oldens were then what B&H is today. Canikons rule
> the roost here in India.
> So I am shit worried after reading "K-5 Dead" on PDML. I already have
> the Rear e-Dial playing truant randomly, so I moved Aperture & Shutter
> change back to the Front e-Dial, which is the default setting.
> I have cataloged every reported K-5 Failure gleaned from the Internet,
> and will be publishing it soon.
> The Pentax US Forum has a thread for Reporting K-5 failures with Body
> Serial #s, and I request you give the Serial # when reporting a
> failure on PDML.
> Hope your K-5 is back to health soon. It is a great machine though -
> if it works!
> Regards.
> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
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Re: K-5 dead

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Thanks for the sympathy... Funny how you never need that back up until you 
> really really need it.

After the problems i had with my D2H, i always take a back up and the
extended warranties. I have under 3K on my K-5 so i'm about to start
worring now. Only problem i have had on occasion, is after taking a
photo the LCD screen only shows it as B&W, after a turn off, then on,
its ok.

Dave


I didn't need it 10 minutes, five minutes, one minute before the k-5
failed.  But when it failed, it certainly did so in craptacular
fashion.  I had a moment's panicked thought of ripping the k-01 out of
my husband's hands in the middle of the race, but... decided against
that. Later on, I thought I should have commandeered a fellow parent's
Rebel, that was sitting unused
>
> ;)
> -c
>
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>
>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the
>> mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get
>> home.  Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money
>> after bad, at least on this camera.
>
> Sorry to hear that, not much fun when something you rely on breaks.
>
>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip,
>> my husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that,
>> anyway.)
>
> Ayup, I'm a big believer in backup equipment.  (Not always good about
> practicing my beliefs, of course...)
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Re: K-5 dead

[Walt]

On 6/17/2013 8:57 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: Walt Gilbert

Damn, Christine. Sorry to hear about that.

Sure makes me glad I have the K20D to fall back on. I always take it
with me, even though it rarely comes out of the bag. Still, I can't help
being a bit paranoid about what fate will befall my K-5. I've really
grown attached to it.

I hope whatever fix is required turns out to be feasible.



It's probably a good idea to take the backup out and exercise it every
once in a while just to be sure it remains in good operational condition.

I did that just today, matter of fact. Have a shoot coming up with a 
young lady today that I suspect will produce some really nice shots.


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Re: K-5 dead

[John Sessoms]

From: Walt Gilbert

Damn, Christine. Sorry to hear about that.

Sure makes me glad I have the K20D to fall back on. I always take it
with me, even though it rarely comes out of the bag. Still, I can't help
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I hope whatever fix is required turns out to be feasible.



It's probably a good idea to take the backup out and exercise it every
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Re: K-5 dead

[Darren Addy]

I find these reports of premature K-5 issues a little disconcerting. I
don't know if any of you use Twitter (or other social media) but
making a little noise on there (and directing comments to Pentax Ricoh
Japan, as well as in your home country) could get you a little
expedited attention.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:12 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> Ah...yikes. Well, I would think you still have a good case... I hope it all 
> works out in your favor.
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>
> No, according to the tech I took it to first (assuming it to be a less 
> serious issue) took one look at it and told me the shutter has collapsed and 
> must be replaced. Basically the shutter doesn't retract fully so you are left 
> with a black stripe across the top of all of the images. If you go through 
> the sensor clean routine you can see the shutter blades blocking the bottom 
> of the sensor. In all other respects it still works normally. Apparently it 
> is the usual way that shutters fail when they have been heavily used, except 
> that mine has only done 8% of it's rated life.
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
> On 17/06/2013, at 10:49 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
>
>> Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't 
>> already... It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a new 
>> mirror/shutter assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, IMHO.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
>>
>> My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter failed 
>> after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our consumer 
>> protection laws even though it is out of warranty.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>> On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:

 It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the 
 National High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  
 400 meters of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son 
 & his team were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a 
 couple dozen frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just 
 stopped.  Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, 
 in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns 
 on, but when you press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery 
 depleted" (though it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was 
 yesterday, same story this morning.
>>>
>>> That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
>>> board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a
>>> paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.
>>>
>>>

 Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the 
 mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  
 Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at 
 least on this camera.

 Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
>>>
>>> So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.
>>> One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
>>> different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
>>> a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
>>> yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
>>> all three team up for a good one.
>>>

 (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
 husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
>>>
>>> I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
>>> the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a
>>> couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the
>>> quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.
>>>
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Ah...yikes. Well, I would think you still have a good case... I hope it all 
works out in your favor.




On Jun 16, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:

No, according to the tech I took it to first (assuming it to be a less serious 
issue) took one look at it and told me the shutter has collapsed and must be 
replaced. Basically the shutter doesn't retract fully so you are left with a 
black stripe across the top of all of the images. If you go through the sensor 
clean routine you can see the shutter blades blocking the bottom of the sensor. 
In all other respects it still works normally. Apparently it is the usual way 
that shutters fail when they have been heavily used, except that mine has only 
done 8% of it's rated life.  

Paul




On 17/06/2013, at 10:49 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't already... 
> It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a new 
> mirror/shutter assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, IMHO.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
> 
> My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter failed 
> after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our consumer 
> protection laws even though it is out of warranty.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
>>> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters 
>>> of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team 
>>> were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen 
>>> frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  
>>> Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
>>> battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you 
>>> press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though 
>>> it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story 
>>> this morning.
>> 
>> That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
>> board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
>> paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
>>> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  
>>> Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at 
>>> least on this camera.
>>> 
>>> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
>> 
>> So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
>> One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
>> different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
>> a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
>> yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
>> all three team up for a good one.   
>> 
>>> 
>>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
>>> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
>> 
>> I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
>> the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
>> couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
>> quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.
>> 
>> 
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Re: K-5 dead

[Paul Ewins]

No, according to the tech I took it to first (assuming it to be a less serious 
issue) took one look at it and told me the shutter has collapsed and must be 
replaced. Basically the shutter doesn't retract fully so you are left with a 
black stripe across the top of all of the images. If you go through the sensor 
clean routine you can see the shutter blades blocking the bottom of the sensor. 
In all other respects it still works normally. Apparently it is the usual way 
that shutters fail when they have been heavily used, except that mine has only 
done 8% of it's rated life.  

Paul
  


 
On 17/06/2013, at 10:49 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't already... 
> It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a new 
> mirror/shutter assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, IMHO.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:
> 
> My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter failed 
> after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our consumer 
> protection laws even though it is out of warranty.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>>> 
>>> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
>>> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters 
>>> of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team 
>>> were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen 
>>> frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  
>>> Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
>>> battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you 
>>> press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though 
>>> it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story 
>>> this morning.
>> 
>> That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
>> board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
>> paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
>>> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  
>>> Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at 
>>> least on this camera.
>>> 
>>> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
>> 
>> So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
>> One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
>> different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
>> a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
>> yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
>> all three team up for a good one.   
>> 
>>> 
>>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
>>> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
>> 
>> I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
>> the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
>> couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
>> quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.
>> 
>> 
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Shutter failed?  As in "mirror flop"?  Google that, if you haven't already... 
It's a well known problem, mine had it, was repaired with a new mirror/shutter 
assembly, as I recall... They should fix it, free, IMHO.

Good luck!




On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:12 PM, Paul Ewins  wrote:

My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter failed 
after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our consumer 
protection laws even though it is out of warranty.

Paul


On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
>> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters 
>> of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team 
>> were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen 
>> frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  
>> Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
>> battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you 
>> press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though 
>> it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this 
>> morning.
> 
> That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
> board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
> paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
>> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
>> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
>> this camera.
>> 
>> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
> One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
> different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
> a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
> yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
> all three team up for a good one.   
> 
>> 
>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
>> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
> the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
> couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
> quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.
> 
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

On Jun 16, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.

That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.


> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday

So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
all three team up for a good one.   

Is CRIS going to go for that?  At this point, I might be interested in selling 
it back to them for parts. Har. Keep me posted... I plan to be in touch with 
them tomorrow Which will likely result in not much more than getting me all 
riled up again, but is unavoidable nonetheless. 

> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)

I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.


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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Thanks, Walt.  
I recommend keeping the k20 in the bag.  And keeping the bag with you.

;)
-c


On Jun 16, 2013, at 1:44 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Damn, Christine. Sorry to hear about that.

Sure makes me glad I have the K20D to fall back on. I always take it with me, 
even though it rarely comes out of the bag. Still, I can't help being a bit 
paranoid about what fate will befall my K-5. I've really grown attached to it.

I hope whatever fix is required turns out to be feasible.

-- Walt

On 6/16/2013 9:26 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
> -c


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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Thanks, Christine.  
I'm not holding out much hope for the video producing any decent stills.  My 
husband was sort of pointing the k-01 in the general direction of the track, 
from 12 rows up in the bleachers, all while yelling himself hoarse.  But, I'll 
check.  

:)
-c




On Jun 16, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

Damn.  Sorry to hear this.  Good to hear about the video backup--depending on 
the video processing software you use, you may be able to make stills from some 
of the video footage.  I think you can make stills from iMovie--I'm speaking 
off the top of my head, so maybe not; I haven't used iMove much--actually only 
once and that was a while ago.


I bet Cotty could offer some suggestions of making stills from video.

Cheers, Christine



On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Thanks for the sympathy... Funny how you never need that back up until you 
really really need it.  I didn't need it 10 minutes, five minutes, one minute 
before the k-5 failed.  But when it failed, it certainly did so in craptacular 
fashion.  I had a moment's panicked thought of ripping the k-01 out of my 
husband's hands in the middle of the race, but... decided against that. Later 
on, I thought I should have commandeered a fellow parent's Rebel, that was 
sitting unused

;)
-c

On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Aahz Maruch  wrote:

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the
> mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get
> home.  Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money
> after bad, at least on this camera.

Sorry to hear that, not much fun when something you rely on breaks.

> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip,
> my husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that,
> anyway.)

Ayup, I'm a big believer in backup equipment.  (Not always good about
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Re: K-5 dead

[Paul Ewins]

My K5 is waiting for repair at the local Pentax importer. The shutter failed 
after only 8000 shots so I am hoping to get it fixed free under our consumer 
protection laws even though it is out of warranty.

Paul


On 17/06/2013, at 9:07 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>> 
>> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
>> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters 
>> of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team 
>> were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen 
>> frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  
>> Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
>> battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you 
>> press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though 
>> it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this 
>> morning.
> 
> That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
> board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
> paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
>> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
>> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
>> this camera.
>> 
>> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
> One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
> different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
> a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
> yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
> all three team up for a good one.   
> 
>> 
>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
>> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
> the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
> couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
> quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.
> 
> 
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Re: K-5 dead

[Larry Colen]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26:21PM -0400, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.

That might have been the same thing I went through with mine when the power
board died.  It happened a couple of times, then once when I was on a 
paid gig.  Fortunately, I had my K-x as a backup.


> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday

So, Boris and I are both sending K-5s in to CRIS for repair.  
One thing that we are considering is that if they both need
different expensive parts, then take the best of each to make
a good "frankenfive".  If one of them does get parted out, and
yours doesn't need the same part as the other, we might be able to
all three team up for a good one.   

> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)

I cannot tell you how many times I've had something go wrong at
the racetrack, when I've had the spare part that I need, a 
couple hundred miles away at home. It just wasn't with the 
quarter ton of spares that I had with me at the track.


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Re: K-5 dead

[Paul Sorenson]

I believe LR4 will let you pick out individual frames. Not at home so I can't 
check for sure, but I seem to remember a David Ziser tutorial on doing that. 

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On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> Damn.  Sorry to hear this.  Good to hear about the video backup--depending on 
> the video processing software you use, you may be able to make stills from 
> some of the video footage.  I think you can make stills from iMovie--I'm 
> speaking off the top of my head, so maybe not; I haven't used iMove 
> much--actually only once and that was a while ago.
> 
> 
> I bet Cotty could offer some suggestions of making stills from video.
> 
> Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
>> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters 
>> of the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team 
>> were competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen 
>> frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  
>> Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
>> battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you 
>> press the shutter, it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though 
>> it is not). Then, it won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this 
>> morning.
>> 
>> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
>> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
>> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
>> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
>> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
>> 
>> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
>> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
>> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
>> this camera.
>> 
>> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
>> 
>> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
>> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
>> 
>> :(
>> -c
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Re: K-5 dead

[Steve Cottrell]

On 16/6/13, Christine Aguila, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I bet Cotty could offer some suggestions of making stills from video.

Well, I don't know iMovie at all (I use FCP7) but there should be a way
to export a still frame I would have thought. Failing that, use some
excellent freeware called Mpeg Streamclip (link to software in next
link, below) which can be used to convert formats and will easily handle
stills. Any video editor will have Mpeg Streamclip on his/her Mac or PC.
Can't recommend it enough.

Here is a tutorial on how to do it with Mpeg Streamclip:



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Re: K-5 dead

[Walt Gilbert]

Damn, Christine. Sorry to hear about that.

Sure makes me glad I have the K20D to fall back on. I always take it 
with me, even though it rarely comes out of the bag. Still, I can't help 
being a bit paranoid about what fate will befall my K-5. I've really 
grown attached to it.


I hope whatever fix is required turns out to be feasible.

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On 6/16/2013 9:26 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National High School 
Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of the 4 x 800 meter relay 
championship race... in which my son & his team were competing .. The camera stopped 
working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it 
just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of 
battery, lens switch, shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, 
it freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it won't 
do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.

So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a worse 
betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, they 
have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was their last 
race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time ever, finished 
in the top 10.  And I have no photos.

Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering if 
I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on this 
camera.

Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday

(For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my husband 
was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)

:(
-c



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Re: K-5 dead

[Steffen Zahn]

Well, my 7 year old K100d has some kind of reset every other month, where it 
forgets all settings. And the autofocus is not the best. But when I hear this I 
think I can wait a bit longer with an upgrade. It never needed to be sent out 
for repair.

Steffen Zahn


Am 16.06.2013 um 18:26 schrieb Christine Nielsen :

> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Nielsen]

Yeah, my only consolation was that this was a personal assignment.  But, the 
other families have come to " rely" on my meet photos, and I enjoy sharing 
them.  If this were a paying gig, it would be an unmitigated disaster. The 
other lesson I've learned is to keep my bag with me - sometimes, I am tempted 
to leave it with my husband in the stands as I roam the track perimeter... Bad 
idea, since I've had a couple of times when a battery did need to be replaced, 
or the flops started, and I needed to switch bodies in the middle of a race.  

When traveling, though, I didn't really want to bring everything... I thought 2 
bodies was enough.  What could go wrong?


On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

That sucks. I've been traveling light on assignments now and then, leaving the 
backup home. It's no consolation, but at least you've taught me a lesson.

Paul via phone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
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Re: K-5 dead

[Christine Aguila]

Damn.  Sorry to hear this.  Good to hear about the video backup--depending on 
the video processing software you use, you may be able to make stills from some 
of the video footage.  I think you can make stills from iMovie--I'm speaking 
off the top of my head, so maybe not; I haven't used iMove much--actually only 
once and that was a while ago.


I bet Cotty could offer some suggestions of making stills from video.

Cheers, Christine



On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
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Re: K-5 dead

[Aahz Maruch]

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013, Christine Nielsen wrote:
>
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the
> mirror flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get
> home.  Wondering if I have reached the point of throwing good money
> after bad, at least on this camera.

Sorry to hear that, not much fun when something you rely on breaks.

> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip,
> my husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that,
> anyway.)

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Re: K-5 dead

[Paul Stenquist]

That sucks. I've been traveling light on assignments now and then, leaving the 
backup home. It's no consolation, but at least you've taught me a lesson.

Paul via phone

On Jun 16, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Christine Nielsen  wrote:

> 
> It happened at a bad time, too.  We flew to North Carolina for the National 
> High School Outdoor Track meet this weekend... After the first  400 meters of 
> the 4 x 800 meter relay championship race... in which my son & his team were 
> competing .. The camera stopped working.  I had shot a couple dozen frames at 
> the meet already, no problem.  But, then, it just stopped.  Wouldn't focus, 
> wouldn't shoot, no matter the on/off, in/out/switch of battery, lens switch, 
> shooting mode change, etc. it turns on, but when you press the shutter, it 
> freezes, and the LCD says "battery depleted" (though it is not). Then, it 
> won't do anything.  That was yesterday, same story this morning.
> 
> So.  Stuff happens, I get that.  Still, I'm finding it hard to imagine a 
> worse betrayal of gear right now.  I have been shooting these guys all year, 
> they have had a great run, so to speak, since the winter season. This was 
> their last race together.  This was a big deal.  They ran their best time 
> ever, finished in the top 10.  And I have no photos.  
> 
> Not sure if this is a warranty repair or not... Especially since the mirror 
> flop fix of last year... Will check my paperwork when I get home.  Wondering 
> if I have reached the point of throwing good money after bad, at least on 
> this camera.
> 
> Maybe you'll be hearing from me again on for sale Friday
> 
> (For the record, my "back-up camera", the K-01, also made the trip, my 
> husband was shooting video with it at the time. Glad we have that, anyway.)
> 
> :(
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