Re: OT: Help! Need Myths
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/27/2007 3:32:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Turn right by the store with the red dress in the window, and then take a left at the house with the cute yellow dog. My house is the hundred and second from that corner, there are two or three more corners in between but I am not sure -- graywolf === Okay, sexist jokes like this went out 15-20 years ago. Men are just as bad drivers as women (and direction givers). Actually the worse are teenagers. And, no, I didn't start the sexist stuff, Alex did, I just responded. Hmmm? But I think it struck a nerve there somewhere. Might you have ever given directions that included a red dress in the window? FWIW, I don't ask for directions, I ask for a map; having taught map reading, and land navigation for the last 20 years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Mark Roberts frank theriault wrote: I'm way up at the top of a long thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has said, but: When I was a kid, we were told that Friday the 13th was unlucky because Judas was the 13th apostle (and hence the number 13 is generally unlucky) and Friday in particular because that was the day Christ was crucified (I went to a Catholic school). 13 has been regarded as unlucky since long before Christianity. Many cultures have regarded 12 as a perfect number and 13, one off from perfection (as well as being prime, which always makes a number stand out for good or bad), as suspect. It's more likely that the number of apostles and the number at the last supper were chosen *because of* these ancient beliefs. Not to mention that Judas wasn't the 13th Apostle. He was, depending upon how you reckon it, either first or eleventh. First because he was Jesus's follower before Jesus recruited Simon (aka Peter the Rock) and his brother Andrew to be fishers of men, and eleventh because others eventually superseded him in the hierarchy, and the name of the twelfth is unclear, being in various versions of the gospels called Jude, Thaddeous or Judas, brother of James, to distinguish him from Judas Iscariot. Matthias was the 13th disciple, recruited by the remaining eleven after the crucification to replace Judas Iscariot. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/31/2007 9:30:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FWIW, I don't ask for directions, I ask for a map; having taught map reading, and land navigation for the last 20 years. I prefer maps too. Directions rely too much on landmarks and landmarks change. Maps can be wrong too sometimes, but mainly when they are old. Marnie ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/31/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was, depending upon how you reckon it, either first or eleventh. First because he was Jesus's follower before Jesus recruited Simon (aka Peter the Rock) and his brother Andrew to be fishers of men, and eleventh because others eventually superseded him in the hierarchy, and the name of the twelfth is unclear, being in various versions of the gospels called Jude, Thaddeous or Judas, brother of James, to distinguish him from Judas Iscariot. Matthias was the 13th disciple, recruited by the remaining eleven after the crucification to replace Judas Iscariot. Judas was the 13th Apostle, because Miss Dubien, my fifth grade teacher at St. Raphael's School in Montreal said so. cheers, frank ;-) -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Men and women seem to see different things, and use different things as reference points. Men (at least in the UK) say things like 'turn left at the White Lion, carry straight on past the Pig Whistle then it's right in front of you. You can't miss it'. Women say things like 'turn left at Sainsburys, carry straight on past Primark then it's right in front of you. You can't miss it'. It was a man who gave me the most baffling directions I've ever received. In a town I'd never visited before he told me to 'turn left about 2 miles before you get to the big roundabout'. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of graywolf Sent: 28 May 2007 06:40 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses, exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving me the street address. However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On May 28, 2007, at 1:40 AM, graywolf wrote: That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses, exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving me the street address. However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too. Once when I was looking for a place on St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, I found myself completely lost and maps useless. I saw this very old and wise looking Rasta man leaning against a fence post by the road. I stopped and got out and he greeted me with a broad smile. I asked if he knew the way to the place I was trying to find. He gave me detailed directions which began... Mon, you go down de road an you make a lef turn where de old mango tree usta be, den you go 'bout a mile and you make a right turn at John Smif's house He went on for some time with these directions, while I nodded and pretended to understand. I thanked him and was going to go back to the car, when he pulled out a gigantic cigar from his pocket and asked me if I wanted to toke on some ganja. I politely declined and continued down the road, ultimately coming to a store where I got directions I could understand. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Really not. They're still very much en vogue, and often accurate (like most jokes that aren't PC these days) ;) One time, me and some of my brothers were going down to CT for the weekend. One of us brought his girlfriend along. This was a heinous act punishable by a severe beating (chapter trip to another chapter, and someone is bringing his ball chain? Inexcusable! But what could we say at the last minute?) Since he was driving, he expected his girlie to ride shotgun. Well she did. From montreal, all you need to do is catch I-89 southbound, then switch to i-91 when you meet it, and that's basically it. We had printed directions from 2 websites, written directions from the CT chapter, and a big ole map.Since the gal got to ride shotgun, she got to navigate for us. Well, come 1am, we're lost. Turns out the gal decided she wanted to see Brooklyn, and for ~100 miles, never noticed we were going in the opposite direction. We told both of them off and managed to find our way back using only the map, with another set of driver/navigator. Despite her massive screwup that cost us 4 hours and a tank of gas, she still had her high mighty 'tude all weekend and made life miserable for the lot of us, whining about how our jokes were too dirty, how we were drinking too much, how we didn't cook our steaks enough, how we spent too much time swimming and never took her to see the sights, how she didn't like the music we played, etc etc etc. This is a failure by the boyfriend to dictate acceptable behavior. But then, he only acts tough. We should have kicked her out of the van in brooklyn as a decoy and gunned it out. We were being eyed (very bad part of town, it seemed) and we needed to get out of there FAST, but we had to find a way to un-f*** ourselves after the number she did. And we never needed to ask for directions. We got ourselves out of it :) Long story short, she is now persona non grata at any and every event, depite the two of em being engaged. And that's the way I like it. On 5/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, sexist jokes like this went out 15-20 years ago. -- Wanna get in shape? Set a goal, snap a pic of youself, and join the PDML Traineo group! http://pdml.groups.traineo.com/ Because only Nikonians should be fatsos! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/28/2007 7:52:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Long story short, she is now persona non grata at any and every event, depite the two of em being engaged. And that's the way I like it. I am not overly fond of you, though. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fine by me. On 5/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/28/2007 7:52:23 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Long story short, she is now persona non grata at any and every event, depite the two of em being engaged. And that's the way I like it. I am not overly fond of you, though. Marnie aka Doe - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Wanna get in shape? Set a goal, snap a pic of youself, and join the PDML Traineo group! http://pdml.groups.traineo.com/ Because only Nikonians should be fatsos! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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GRIN! Everyone knows where that tree was before the hurricane of 1957. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bob Shell wrote: On May 28, 2007, at 1:40 AM, graywolf wrote: That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses, exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving me the street address. However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too. Once when I was looking for a place on St. Thomas, Virgin Islands, I found myself completely lost and maps useless. I saw this very old and wise looking Rasta man leaning against a fence post by the road. I stopped and got out and he greeted me with a broad smile. I asked if he knew the way to the place I was trying to find. He gave me detailed directions which began... Mon, you go down de road an you make a lef turn where de old mango tree usta be, den you go 'bout a mile and you make a right turn at John Smif's house He went on for some time with these directions, while I nodded and pretended to understand. I thanked him and was going to go back to the car, when he pulled out a gigantic cigar from his pocket and asked me if I wanted to toke on some ganja. I politely declined and continued down the road, ultimately coming to a store where I got directions I could understand. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). I'm way up at the top of a long thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has said, but: When I was a kid, we were told that Friday the 13th was unlucky because Judas was the 13th apostle (and hence the number 13 is generally unlucky) and Friday in particular because that was the day Christ was crucified (I went to a Catholic school). IMHO, the Templar story is only strong evidence that Friday the 13th is unlucky, not a reason for it. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/19/07, graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a contrast some American Indians thought 4 was a lucky number, and magical too. #4 was Bobby Orr's and Jean Beliveau's sweater number in hockey. It was lucky for them... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On May 28, 2007, at 2:00 AM, Bob W wrote: It was a man who gave me the most baffling directions I've ever received. In a town I'd never visited before he told me to 'turn left about 2 miles before you get to the big roundabout'. He must be from Vermont, where the usual response to a query for directions goes: Hmm.. Yep... 'Can't get there from here. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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frank theriault wrote: On 5/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). I'm way up at the top of a long thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating what someone else has said, but: When I was a kid, we were told that Friday the 13th was unlucky because Judas was the 13th apostle (and hence the number 13 is generally unlucky) and Friday in particular because that was the day Christ was crucified (I went to a Catholic school). 13 has been regarded as unlucky since long before Christianity. Many cultures have regarded 12 as a perfect number and 13, one off from perfection (as well as being prime, which always makes a number stand out for good or bad), as suspect. It's more likely that the number of apostles and the number at the last supper were chosen *because of* these ancient beliefs. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On May 28, 2007, at 1:25 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: When I was a kid, we were told that Friday the 13th was unlucky because Judas was the 13th apostle (and hence the number 13 is generally unlucky) and Friday in particular because that was the day Christ was crucified (I went to a Catholic school). 13 has been regarded as unlucky since long before Christianity. Many cultures have regarded 12 as a perfect number and 13, one off from perfection (as well as being prime, which always makes a number stand out for good or bad), as suspect. Hey, .. mine goes to 11. ;-) G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/28/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 13 has been regarded as unlucky since long before Christianity. Many cultures have regarded 12 as a perfect number and 13, one off from perfection (as well as being prime, which always makes a number stand out for good or bad), as suspect. It's more likely that the number of apostles and the number at the last supper were chosen *because of* these ancient beliefs. You'll soon be struck down dead by lightning if you persist in such thoughts... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/25/2007 2:25:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the myth is men WON'T ask for directions. === That's a MYTH? Marnie aka Doe ;-) Ever try to *follow* directions given by a woman? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Turn right by the store with the red dress in the window, and then take a left at the house with the cute yellow dog. My house is the hundred and second from that corner, there are two or three more corners in between but I am not sure -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- John Sessoms wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/25/2007 2:25:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the myth is men WON'T ask for directions. === That's a MYTH? Marnie aka Doe ;-) Ever try to *follow* directions given by a woman? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/27/2007 3:32:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Turn right by the store with the red dress in the window, and then take a left at the house with the cute yellow dog. My house is the hundred and second from that corner, there are two or three more corners in between but I am not sure -- graywolf === Okay, sexist jokes like this went out 15-20 years ago. Men are just as bad drivers as women (and direction givers). Actually the worse are teenagers. And, no, I didn't start the sexist stuff, Alex did, I just responded. Have a Nice Day! Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That was not a joke, it was, except for the 102 houses, exaggeration pretty much what I was once told by a lady friend. I did find her house, but only because I had insisted upon her giving me the street address. However, I will admit that men can give strange directions too. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/27/2007 3:32:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Turn right by the store with the red dress in the window, and then take a left at the house with the cute yellow dog. My house is the hundred and second from that corner, there are two or three more corners in between but I am not sure -- graywolf === Okay, sexist jokes like this went out 15-20 years ago. Men are just as bad drivers as women (and direction givers). Actually the worse are teenagers. And, no, I didn't start the sexist stuff, Alex did, I just responded. Have a Nice Day! Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Men don't need to ask for directions. I thought the myth is men WON'T ask for directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/25/2007 2:25:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought the myth is men WON'T ask for directions. === That's a MYTH? Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Most of the myths around the deaths of famous people are just that - myths. I include the Kennedys in this. In general the most prosaic, dull and boring explanations are usually the correct ones. There seems to be some need within people to look for less ordinary explanations when it comes to the death of heroes - could it really be true that some god-like person was really killed by a nutter with a gun, or by a drunk driver? We expect heroes to have heroic deaths, and when they don't, we invent them. The conspiracy theories feed on the inevitable confusion that surrounds the deaths, and the fact that it's always impossible to know everything that happened, impossible for everybody to have stories that are 100% consistent, and impossible for all the people involved to have behaved impeccably without making any mistakes. There was a very good documentary about the Kennedy assassination a couple of years ago (probably the 40th annivesary) on the BBC, by Gavin Esler who was their correspondent in Washington. It's well worth looking at if you ever get the chance. It applies modern analysis techniques to trace the paths of the bullets - particularly the magic bullet - back to the Depository window, and demolishes a number of the other myths that have grown up around the assassination. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3226908.stm There are no Men In Black. Apart from my squash coach. And Stan Halpin, obviously. -- Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 20 May 2007 01:31 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths - Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths That goes right up there with, The bullet proves conclusively that Oswald did it (The most important piece of evidence in the most sensational murder case up to that time, just disappears (those UFO guys must have gotten it)). The reporters that were on the scene sure thought shots were coming from two directions (I just happened to be watching it live on Dallas TV when it happened). There obviously was a conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States, the question that has never been adequately explained is who were the conspirators? Republicans? Just kidding. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/19/07, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: How about Thunder is caused by angels bowling ...or Canadians snoring. I always womdered why the bears in the habitat looked tired. Must be from lack of sleep:-) Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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AlexG wrote: women have something to say :p Oh, you're a femininist. Isn't that cute. :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It's sad that Kennedy was killed, and it's sad to think that a single non-entity could kill the President of the United States. But most assassinations and attempted assassinations of US Presidents have been just that. The computer analysis of the bullet trajectory shows that the bullet wasn't particularly magic, it traveled in a straight line, as bullets are wont to do, and wounded one man and killed another. The photographic analysis of the second gunman seen on the grassy knoll was a product of light, shadow and film grain, (and if there had been someone at that location they would have had to be standing on a substantial step ladder in the middle of a street). The sound recordings from a policeman's open mike have been thoroughly discredited by both photographic evidence and eyewitnesses who placed his location at a different location than necessary for the original analysis to work. There may have been a conspiracy, though that seems increasingly unlikely, but there was only one gunman. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/19/2007 3:08:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That goes right up there with, The bullet proves conclusively that Oswald did it (The most important piece of evidence in the most sensational murder case up to that time, just disappears (those UFO guys must have gotten it)). The reporters that were on the scene sure thought shots were coming from two directions (I just happened to be watching it live on Dallas TV when it happened). There obviously was a conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States, the question that has never been adequately explained is who were the conspirators? == I just read a news story the other day, where they think retesting the bullet fragments, will, once and for all disprove the magic bullet theory. Which was really stupid idea in the first place, anyway. Arlen Specter has a creative mind. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517142528.htm I think it would be nice to have finally evidence to corroborate the fact. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hey, leave Tom out of this. If you fall asleep while it's raining and the sun is out, tennis balls will fly out of your TV. Norm David Savage wrote: Sitting too close to the TV will give you square eyes. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/19/2007 9:10:17 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: women have something to say :p === Men don't need to ask for directions. Marnie aka Doe :-P - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On May 20, 2007, at 10:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Men don't need to ask for directions. Of course they need to, but they just don't. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 19/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Nowt so queer as folk. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for historical fallacies. Taxes on businesses come from their profit? :-) -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- Sandy Harris Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Thanks Sandy! That's helpful. -- Original message -- From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- Sandy Harris Quanzhou, Fujian, China -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Sitting too close to the TV will give you square eyes. If you pull a face while the wind changes it'll stay that way. Dave On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/19/2007 7:33:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul === Makes me think of High School. Like someone is asking someone else to do their homework for them. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You can find North because Moss grows on the north side of a tree... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). Sandy Harris wrote: On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul de lurking for a bit - 1st myth is that the best minds in the world are on PDML getting past that, to what actually might be helpful, - TOADS cause warts, not frogs. throwing salt over your shoulder after you spill it (to prevent bad luck) of course, the 7 years of bad luck following breaking a mirror picking up a penny heads up is good luck but you shouldn't pick one up if it tails dont walk under a ladder I'll try to think of some others - just waking up... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Coke and pop rocks! -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Of course that should be heresy, (damned spell checker). P. J. Alling wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). Sandy Harris wrote: On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-) There's a myth if I ever heard one! ;-} -Brendan The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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And how could I leave out.. the stork brings babies ann On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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The earth was the center of the universe. Salem, MA was witchcraft ground zero. Fair maidens were won by dragon slaying knights. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It could have been hearsay, as well. ;} -p P. J. Alling wrote: Of course that should be heresy, (damned spell checker). P. J. Alling wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). Sandy Harris wrote: On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- the 13 superstition reminds me of older hotels which lack room 13, and some buildings wich lask floor 13. - walking under ladders, black cats, broken mirror and seven years of bad luck, throwing salt over your shoulder - if you step on a crack, you'll break your momma's back - butter on a burn to soothe it - if you suck the blood out of your cut and swallow it, it will go back into your blood stream - the way to seal an oath from my elementry school days cross my fingers, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye - also from my elementary school days, IIRC as recently as the mid to late 1800's it was beleived that if someone got a thumb cut off and then had a child, the child would be born without a thumb. (I am not exactly sure what you are looking for, meaning, I don't know how you would represent that with a short phrase or a photo). - maggots spawn from raw meat - an apple a day keeps the doctor away - http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/oldwives.asp - I am not up to speed on naval history and superstition, but there are many (I beleive) ficticious sea monsters, and other fears of women on the ship, etc... - Eldorado, Atlantis, Fountain of Youth, King Solomon's Diamond Mines (I do not know if that one is a 'real fake place' or only in literature) - earth is the center of the universe/galaxy - stars are laterns/candles hung in the sky Hope that helps. Russ On 5/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). Sandy Harris wrote: On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bingo! Some great ones here. Thanks to all who have helped. You rock! Paul -- Original message -- From: Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] - the 13 superstition reminds me of older hotels which lack room 13, and some buildings wich lask floor 13. - walking under ladders, black cats, broken mirror and seven years of bad luck, throwing salt over your shoulder - if you step on a crack, you'll break your momma's back - butter on a burn to soothe it - if you suck the blood out of your cut and swallow it, it will go back into your blood stream - the way to seal an oath from my elementry school days cross my fingers, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye - also from my elementary school days, IIRC as recently as the mid to late 1800's it was beleived that if someone got a thumb cut off and then had a child, the child would be born without a thumb. (I am not exactly sure what you are looking for, meaning, I don't know how you would represent that with a short phrase or a photo). - maggots spawn from raw meat - an apple a day keeps the doctor away - http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/oldwives.asp - I am not up to speed on naval history and superstition, but there are many (I beleive) ficticious sea monsters, and other fears of women on the ship, etc... - Eldorado, Atlantis, Fountain of Youth, King Solomon's Diamond Mines (I do not know if that one is a 'real fake place' or only in literature) - earth is the center of the universe/galaxy - stars are laterns/candles hung in the sky Hope that helps. Russ On 5/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably the fear of the number 13 predates the event but it's been said that Friday the 13th is especially bad dates from Friday 13 October 1307, Philip the Fair, King of France, with the acquiescence of the Pope, rounded up the all Knights Templars in France for hearsay, they were found guilty, executed, and their lands and fortunes were confiscated by the Crown. All in all I'd say that would make it an unlucky day, (if you were a Templar at least). Sandy Harris wrote: On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Some Chinese ones: Red for wedding dress, white for funerals. Same in India. Red is good luck. Hong Kong $100, Chinese RMB 100 notes are red. At New Years or at a wedding, give a red package (hong bao) containing money. The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... -- All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Legacy Air, Inc. 11900 Airport Way Broomfield Colorado 80021 (303) 404-0277 fax (303) 404-0280 www.legacy-air.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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http://www.corsinet.com/trivia/scary.html Putting a had on a bed is bad luck. (I remember it as someone will die, but that's probably my poor memory.) This one has stuck with me because it had somewhat of a factual basis. Tuberculous used to be rampant, and the idea was it could be transmitted by clothes. Such as a group of people come over for dinner for something, and they put their coats and hats on the bed, spreading germs to where people sleep. (Well, I am pretty sure that is the origin.) Buttered toast always falls buttered side down. Carrying an umbrella means it WON'T rain. Hmmm, not sure those last are actually myths. They do seem to be what happens. A sock lost in the dryer is never found. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Here's one from a wizened old hag living in a tumbledown old cottage: A cat that sits in the sun in March, sits by the fire in May. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul these might have been covered but - Horseshoe brings good luck Ditto for rabbits foot (though there's a commercial out there using that right now.) Knock Wood when you wish for something good. Your spirit leaves your body when you sneeze (so say god bless you... That's all I can come up with. - MCC -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Mark Cassino Photography Kalamazoo, Michigan www.markcassino.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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As a contrast some American Indians thought 4 was a lucky number, and magical too. Sandy Harris wrote: The number 8 is good luck, sounds like the word for prosperity. 4 is bad luck, sounds like death. People will pay extra for a phone or license number with lots of 8s. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:20:31PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote: Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Christianity helped spread this one. There were 13 at table at the last supper; Christ was crucified on Friday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:30:07PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Travelling at faster than 40mph would make it impossible to breathe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I beleave this myth is older than Christianity. If you study religions and myths you will find that christianty has used a lot of old myths. The classic example is that Jesus probably was not born around Christmast at all. They just stole an older celebration. It could be the same with the magic number of 13 Tim Typo Mostly Harmless - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:18 PM Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:20:31PM +0800, Sandy Harris wrote: Why is 13 bad for us? Friday the 13th? Christianity helped spread this one. There were 13 at table at the last supper; Christ was crucified on Friday. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.4/811 - Release Date: 18.05.2007 15:50 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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It is interesting that many old customs that seem quaint once had a practical purpose. For instance a gentleman always removes his hat when he enters a house. In the days of top-hats, and low ceilings, that was not a custom, it was a necessity. Tossing your hat and coat on someones else's bed was a good way to pass diseases back in the days when neither bedding nor outer clothing was laundered more than maybe once a year. Becomes it is bad luck (or will cause someone in the family to die) if you put your hat on the bed. Those are just a couple. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Great! Thal one goes in the show. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:30:07PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Travelling at faster than 40mph would make it impossible to breathe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bad luck to open an umbrella indoors On May 19, 2007, at 12:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.corsinet.com/trivia/scary.html Putting a had on a bed is bad luck. (I remember it as someone will die, but that's probably my poor memory.) This one has stuck with me because it had somewhat of a factual basis. Tuberculous used to be rampant, and the idea was it could be transmitted by clothes. Such as a group of people come over for dinner for something, and they put their coats and hats on the bed, spreading germs to where people sleep. (Well, I am pretty sure that is the origin.) Buttered toast always falls buttered side down. Carrying an umbrella means it WON'T rain. Hmmm, not sure those last are actually myths. They do seem to be what happens. A sock lost in the dryer is never found. Marnie aka Doe ;-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http:// www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I can add: Putting a hat on a bed means death for somebody... Opening an umbrella inside a house is bad luck; They say (esp. when you are very young) that when you make a grimace or pull faces to someone there's an angel that freezes your face that way... Ciao, Gianfranco - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 6:31 PM Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths Bingo! Some great ones here. Thanks to all who have helped. You rock! Paul -- Original message -- From: Russell Kerstetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] - the 13 superstition reminds me of older hotels which lack room 13, and some buildings wich lask floor 13. - walking under ladders, black cats, broken mirror and seven years of bad luck, throwing salt over your shoulder - if you step on a crack, you'll break your momma's back - butter on a burn to soothe it - if you suck the blood out of your cut and swallow it, it will go back into your blood stream - the way to seal an oath from my elementry school days cross my fingers, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye - also from my elementary school days, IIRC as recently as the mid to late 1800's it was beleived that if someone got a thumb cut off and then had a child, the child would be born without a thumb. (I am not exactly sure what you are looking for, meaning, I don't know how you would represent that with a short phrase or a photo). - maggots spawn from raw meat - an apple a day keeps the doctor away - http://www.snopes.com/oldwives/oldwives.asp - I am not up to speed on naval history and superstition, but there are many (I beleive) ficticious sea monsters, and other fears of women on the ship, etc... - Eldorado, Atlantis, Fountain of Youth, King Solomon's Diamond Mines (I do not know if that one is a 'real fake place' or only in literature) - earth is the center of the universe/galaxy - stars are laterns/candles hung in the sky Hope that helps. Russ _ You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You shouldn't cross your eyes - they might get stuck that way. Good girls don't ... [fill in the blank] on their first date. You have to have a really expensive camera to take good pictures. To avoid bad luck, put out milk and cookies for the little people. All gypsies are thieves. Santa Claus cares if you put out milk and cookies. I mean, really! He wouldn't be that jolly without a few nips of the good stuff; better you should leave out a dram of good single malt. There is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. A double rainbow is good luck. All people are inherently good. All people are inherently evil. Tossing coins into a fountain increases your chances that your wishes will come true. Wishing on the first star in the evening increases your chances that your wishes will come true. Blowing out all of the candles on your birthday cake is good luck. If you pick up a newborn calf and hold it for a few minutes, and repeat that routine every day as he grows, you'll be able to lift the full grown steer. Atlantis. Sasquatch. All bats are vampires. Bad luck for a black cat to cross your path. UFO's Moon is made of green cheese. Men have walked on the moon. (As many people know, if was all faked video from a movie set in Arizona.) A second shooter on the hill. stan On May 19, 2007, at 9:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Thanks to any and all, Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Oh! Here's a good one, contemporary: Nobody will ever need more than 640KB RAM -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That goes right up there with, The bullet proves conclusively that Oswald did it (The most important piece of evidence in the most sensational murder case up to that time, just disappears (those UFO guys must have gotten it)). The reporters that were on the scene sure thought shots were coming from two directions (I just happened to be watching it live on Dallas TV when it happened). There obviously was a conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States, the question that has never been adequately explained is who were the conspirators? Stan Halpin wrote: A second shooter on the hill. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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In a message dated 5/19/2007 3:08:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That goes right up there with, The bullet proves conclusively that Oswald did it (The most important piece of evidence in the most sensational murder case up to that time, just disappears (those UFO guys must have gotten it)). The reporters that were on the scene sure thought shots were coming from two directions (I just happened to be watching it live on Dallas TV when it happened). There obviously was a conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States, the question that has never been adequately explained is who were the conspirators? == I just read a news story the other day, where they think retesting the bullet fragments, will, once and for all disprove the magic bullet theory. Which was really stupid idea in the first place, anyway. Arlen Specter has a creative mind. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517142528.htm I think it would be nice to have finally evidence to corroborate the fact. Marnie aka Doe :-) - Warning: I am now filtering my email, so you may be censored. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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yes, that's a good one. Thanks. On May 19, 2007, at 3:55 PM, Cotty wrote: Oh! Here's a good one, contemporary: Nobody will ever need more than 640KB RAM -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This one time, at band camp, Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for historical fallacies. Taxes on businesses come from their profit? :-) Pentax 645D Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Sandy Harris On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm stuck working on a Saturday. Have to finish an ad campaign. And I need myths. The kind of stuff that predates urban legends. For example, frogs can cause warts or the moon is made of green cheese. Are there others? Perhaps some that arent't as silly. The best minds in the world are on the PDML (Sucking Up:-), perhaps someone can help. Walking under a ladder, stepping on a crack, ... Walking under a ladder isn't myth or superstition. It's just plain unsafe. It got that reputation back in the middle ages during the construction of the great cathedrals ... for the same reason it's unsafe today. Walk under a ladder, and you might disturb the guy up on the ladder. He might fall off or he might drop something on you. And if he happens to be a hod carrier for stone masons, what he drops ain't gonna do you much good, even if you're wearing a hard hat, which they didn't back in those days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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But it is flat. How about Thunder is caused by angels bowling Dave On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great! Thal one goes in the show. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:30:07PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also looking for historical fallacies. For example. People used to think the earth is flat. Anything in this area is good as well. This could be more fun than pus:-)). Travelling at faster than 40mph would make it impossible to breathe. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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John Sessoms wrote: Walking under a ladder isn't myth or superstition. It's just plain unsafe. It got that reputation back in the middle ages during the construction of the great cathedrals ... for the same reason it's unsafe today. Walk under a ladder, and you might disturb the guy up on the ladder. He might fall off or he might drop something on you. And if he happens to be a hod carrier for stone masons, what he drops ain't gonna do you much good, even if you're wearing a hard hat, which they didn't back in those days. Well a lot of myths and superstitions came about that way. While it is, of course, unwise to walk under a ladder in many situations, the superstition is that it it is unlucky LIke breaking a mirror is dangerous - saying it was 7 years bad luck to a little kid might make them more careful than you _might_ get hurt Dangerous to youngsters is as often a provocation or an enticement or a promise of adventure :) ann (adventurous when young) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: graywolf Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths That goes right up there with, The bullet proves conclusively that Oswald did it (The most important piece of evidence in the most sensational murder case up to that time, just disappears (those UFO guys must have gotten it)). The reporters that were on the scene sure thought shots were coming from two directions (I just happened to be watching it live on Dallas TV when it happened). There obviously was a conspiracy to assassinate the President of the United States, the question that has never been adequately explained is who were the conspirators? Republicans? Just kidding. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths But it is flat. How about Thunder is caused by angels bowling The Riders will win the Grey Cup William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David J Brooks wrote: How about Thunder is caused by angels bowling ...or Canadians snoring. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A few more - All pro cameras are black ! Drag racers will never exceed 1.0 Gs acceleration. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Help! Need Myths Oh! Here's a good one, contemporary: Nobody will ever need more than 640KB RAM -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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women have something to say :p -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
