Re: oops

2013-10-11 Thread Bill

On 11/10/2013 1:57 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

looks like I forgot to plug in the server this morning. Sorry about that.

Carry on, then.

oh, for those of you who have my personal email address, please note 
it has changed. Same same, but different domain: dougbrewerphotography 
dot com. Update as you feel the need. And thanks to those of you who 
were kind enough to email me, even though I didn't see them emails. 
I'm sure there were dozens.


onward.


Doug, thanks for all that you do. Sometimes a quiet morning is a good thing.

bill

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Re: oops

2011-02-22 Thread Cotty
On 22/2/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>, I think i may have dodged a bullet

Jees this is not a safe place to be right now - there's bullets flying
everywhere!!

Interesting account. In future, you might find a nice dark wood desks/
shelving arrangements with large learned books as an alternative
background. Nice gig mate well done.

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Re: Oops....

2010-04-04 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"
It's reputed that these people can get one for you.  You'll have to 
e-mail them a request since it's not an item they regularly have 
listed.  But they do have a convenient form.   I've never used them, but 
Mike Johnston at TOP, (be sure to send him lots of photos of kittens and 
flowers), says they can get them for you.


http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/index.php?currency=CAD



They can get you a Silver Limited Edition Pentax K-7 to match your 
Limited lenses.


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Re: Oops....

2010-04-03 Thread P. J. Alling
It's reputed that these people can get one for you.  You'll have to 
e-mail them a request since it's not an item they regularly have 
listed.  But they do have a convenient form.   I've never used them, but 
Mike Johnston at TOP, (be sure to send him lots of photos of kittens and 
flowers), says they can get them for you.


http://www.japanexposures.com/shop/index.php?currency=CAD



On 3/30/2010 11:29 PM, wendy beard wrote:

Oh WOW! I want one!

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:33 PM, P. J. Alling
  wrote:
   

Who says it's not available in Hot Pink.

Straight from the Pentax Japan web site.*

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/lookhere/hotpinkkx.html

*If you really want one, I'll post the url of the people who'll import them
for you.

On 3/28/2010 1:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg

Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and I
had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's
cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?

Luckily, all that was needed was the undoing of all the baseplate screws
and repositioning/allowing the back to spring into place.  And cleaning out
3 years of fluff.  It was quie horrendous in there.

First KX impressions are quite favourable.  No hot pink version available,
to my undying disappointment.

   


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Re: Oops....

2010-03-30 Thread wendy beard
Oh WOW! I want one!

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 7:33 PM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> Who says it's not available in Hot Pink.
>
> Straight from the Pentax Japan web site.*
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/lookhere/hotpinkkx.html
>
> *If you really want one, I'll post the url of the people who'll import them
> for you.
>
> On 3/28/2010 1:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg
>>
>> Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and I
>> had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's
>> cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?
>>
>> Luckily, all that was needed was the undoing of all the baseplate screws
>> and repositioning/allowing the back to spring into place.  And cleaning out
>> 3 years of fluff.  It was quie horrendous in there.
>>
>> First KX impressions are quite favourable.  No hot pink version available,
>> to my undying disappointment.
>>
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Re: Oops....

2010-03-29 Thread P. J. Alling

On 3/29/2010 5:47 AM, mike wilson wrote:

 "P. J. Alling"  wrote:
   

Who says it's not available in Hot Pink.

Straight from the Pentax Japan web site.*

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/lookhere/hotpinkkx.html

*If you really want one, I'll post the url of the people who'll import
them for you.
 

I walked into a shop and I needed a camera _right now_.  Hot pink would have 
been a bonus.
   


Ah, well, as long as it's not an obsession.



   

On 3/28/2010 1:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:
 

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg

Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and
I had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's
cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?

Luckily, all that was needed was the undoing of all the baseplate
screws and repositioning/allowing the back to spring into place.  And
cleaning out 3 years of fluff.  It was quie horrendous in there.

First KX impressions are quite favourable.  No hot pink version
available, to my undying disappointment.

   


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Re: Oops....

2010-03-29 Thread mike wilson

 "P. J. Alling"  wrote: 
> Who says it's not available in Hot Pink.
> 
> Straight from the Pentax Japan web site.*
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/lookhere/hotpinkkx.html
> 
> *If you really want one, I'll post the url of the people who'll import 
> them for you.

I walked into a shop and I needed a camera _right now_.  Hot pink would have 
been a bonus.


> 
> On 3/28/2010 1:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> > http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg
> >
> > Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and 
> > I had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's 
> > cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?
> >
> > Luckily, all that was needed was the undoing of all the baseplate 
> > screws and repositioning/allowing the back to spring into place.  And 
> > cleaning out 3 years of fluff.  It was quie horrendous in there.
> >
> > First KX impressions are quite favourable.  No hot pink version 
> > available, to my undying disappointment.
> >
> 
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Re: Oops....

2010-03-28 Thread P. J. Alling

Who says it's not available in Hot Pink.

Straight from the Pentax Japan web site.*

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/lookhere/hotpinkkx.html

*If you really want one, I'll post the url of the people who'll import 
them for you.


On 3/28/2010 1:21 PM, mike wilson wrote:

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg

Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and 
I had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's 
cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?


Luckily, all that was needed was the undoing of all the baseplate 
screws and repositioning/allowing the back to spring into place.  And 
cleaning out 3 years of fluff.  It was quie horrendous in there.


First KX impressions are quite favourable.  No hot pink version 
available, to my undying disappointment.





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Re: Oops....

2010-03-28 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson"

Subject: Re: Oops





Mike, get an up-to-date copy of the standalone Adobe Raw Converter.

Pentax changed an identification string in PEF back around the time of 
the K100D Super which broke ACR recognition of PEF.  Adobe updated the 
ACR in CS3 and CS4 but nothing before that.


Thanks.  Another reason to love my favourite software company.



Also, the DNG files out of the K-x should be openable in any version of 
Photoshop that has a raw converter attached to it.

I know my K-7 DNGs will open in Photoshop 7.

William Robb 



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Re: Oops....

2010-03-28 Thread paul stenquist
Shoot DNG RAW and you can convert in PSCS2.
Paul
On Mar 28, 2010, at 2:42 PM, mike wilson wrote:

> Bruce Walker wrote:
> 
>> mike wilson wrote:
>>> http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg
>>> 
>>> Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and I 
>>> had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's 
>>> cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?
>> Mike, get an up-to-date copy of the standalone Adobe Raw Converter.
>> Pentax changed an identification string in PEF back around the time of the 
>> K100D Super which broke ACR recognition of PEF.  Adobe updated the ACR in 
>> CS3 and CS4 but nothing before that.
> 
> Thanks.  Another reason to love my favourite software company.
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Re: Oops....

2010-03-28 Thread mike wilson

Bruce Walker wrote:


mike wilson wrote:


http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg

Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and 
I had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's 
cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?



Mike, get an up-to-date copy of the standalone Adobe Raw Converter.

Pentax changed an identification string in PEF back around the time of 
the K100D Super which broke ACR recognition of PEF.  Adobe updated the 
ACR in CS3 and CS4 but nothing before that.


Thanks.  Another reason to love my favourite software company.

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Re: Oops....

2010-03-28 Thread Bruce Walker

mike wilson wrote:

http://www.mikeawilson.co.uk/oops.jpg

Sorry, this is 1.7meg.  KX files do not seem to be openable in CS2 and I 
had to use the Pentax software - this is the smallest file (and it's 
cropped) it does.  Why are the new pef files different?


Mike, get an up-to-date copy of the standalone Adobe Raw Converter.

Pentax changed an identification string in PEF back around the time of 
the K100D Super which broke ACR recognition of PEF.  Adobe updated the 
ACR in CS3 and CS4 but nothing before that.


-bmw

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-03 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Christine. I'm physically fine. Miss the "hospitalized" equipment, but 
I'm sure my mental anguish will wane with its return and a positive check out.

Jack

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Christine Aguila  wrote:

> From: Christine Aguila 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:41 AM
> Hope you're all right Jack. 
> Sorry to hear about the equipment, but it's more important
> you're ok.  Cheers, Christine
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jack Davis" 
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:44 AM
> Subject: OOPS!!
> 
> 
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff)
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-03 Thread Christine Aguila
Hope you're all right Jack.  Sorry to hear about the equipment, but it's 
more important you're ok.  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Davis" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: OOPS!!


Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, 
DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
easier to spell.
As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied 
my hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a 
forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the 
display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously 
not mating with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I 
could see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on 
the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the 
focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images 
were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility 
at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.


Jack (sniff)





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RE: OOPS!!

2009-12-03 Thread Jack Davis
A scene that must play over and over in your memory. Sorry to say, but sounds 
like your equipment may have sustained more damage than mine.
I checked the tracking number yesterday and saw that both the lens and body had 
been received. Should be contacted with repair estimates soon. That's when I'll 
find out just how bad ($$$) the damage.
According to web info, repair service takes 'prox 15-20 days.
Thanks for empathy, John. :)

Jack



--- On Thu, 12/3/09, John Coyle  wrote:

> From: John Coyle 
> Subject: RE: OOPS!!
> To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
> Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 12:01 AM
> I can't relate a story about falling,
> but how about sitting in a loo in
> Xi'an, China, camera bag neatly slung from the hook on the
> back of the door
> to prevent it's being dragged out under the door and walked
> away with: watch
> in horror as hook breaks in half, sending bag with MZ-S,
> FA28-105, Sigma
> 18-35, AF330FTZ flash, etc, down on to concrete
> floor?  Lens hood and filter
> ring on the Sigma bent, FA 28-105 internal zoom collar bent
> out of shape,
> nice scuff mark on corner of MZ-S.  Fortunately my
> travel insurance paid for
> the repairs, but I'll never trust cheap Chinese hardware
> again!
> 
> But I'm glad you're OK...
> 
> John in Brisbane
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag
> containing the K20, DA
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball
> head). "Bogen" is
> easier to spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival
> instinct, I emptied my
> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement
> floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a
> forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I
> had on the display
> was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was
> obviously not mating
> with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I
> could see a
> slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on
> the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode.
> while the focus
> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the
> images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility
> at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff) 
> > 
> 
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RE: OOPS!!

2009-12-03 Thread John Coyle
I can't relate a story about falling, but how about sitting in a loo in
Xi'an, China, camera bag neatly slung from the hook on the back of the door
to prevent it's being dragged out under the door and walked away with: watch
in horror as hook breaks in half, sending bag with MZ-S, FA28-105, Sigma
18-35, AF330FTZ flash, etc, down on to concrete floor?  Lens hood and filter
ring on the Sigma bent, FA 28-105 internal zoom collar bent out of shape,
nice scuff mark on corner of MZ-S.  Fortunately my travel insurance paid for
the repairs, but I'll never trust cheap Chinese hardware again!

But I'm glad you're OK...

John in Brisbane



On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo
trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA
16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is
easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a
throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my
hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a
forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display
was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating
with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a
slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on
the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus
indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility
at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> 
> Jack (sniff) 
> 



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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-02 Thread Stan Halpin
No - I hadn't downloaded the images nor swapped out the card. 
On balance, I think dealing with the Mexican police and the insurance company 
was less hassle than what you need to go through with your repair.

stan

On Dec 2, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Hope you had taken the memory card out.(?)
> Real shame, but hope you weren't too badly hurt.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> 
>> From: Stan Halpin 
>> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:17 PM
>> Oops indeed!
>> 
>> I took a fall several years ago. End of a long day, light
>> fading, me rushing to a different vantage point on a Mayan
>> ruin. Slipped on a loose stone. My istD w/ 31mm LTD took the
>> brunt of the fall. A quick inspection showed that it seemed
>> to be working ok, but I was worried about hidden damage.
>> Then the next morning the camera and lens were stolen and I
>> didn't have to worry anymore.
>> 
>> Stan
>> 
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> 
>>> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
>> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
>> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
>> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
>> spell.
>>> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
>> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
>> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
>> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
>>> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
>> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
>> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
>> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
>> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
>> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
>>> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
>> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
>> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
>> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
>> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
>>> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
>> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
>> 85226.
>>> 
>>> Jack (sniff) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-02 Thread Jack Davis
Hope you had taken the memory card out.(?)
Real shame, but hope you weren't too badly hurt.

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> From: Stan Halpin 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:17 PM
> Oops indeed!
> 
> I took a fall several years ago. End of a long day, light
> fading, me rushing to a different vantage point on a Mayan
> ruin. Slipped on a loose stone. My istD w/ 31mm LTD took the
> brunt of the fall. A quick inspection showed that it seemed
> to be working ok, but I was worried about hidden damage.
> Then the next morning the camera and lens were stolen and I
> didn't have to worry anymore.
> 
> Stan
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-02 Thread paul stenquist

On Dec 2, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Stan Halpin wrote:

> Oops indeed!
> 
> I took a fall several years ago. End of a long day, light fading, me rushing 
> to a different vantage point on a Mayan ruin. Slipped on a loose stone. My 
> istD w/ 31mm LTD took the brunt of the fall. A quick inspection showed that 
> it seemed to be working ok, but I was worried about hidden damage. Then the 
> next morning the camera and lens were stolen and I didn't have to worry 
> anymore.
> 
Some people have all the luck:-).
Paul
> 
> 
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
>> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
>> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
>> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
>> easier to spell.
>> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
>> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
>> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
>> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
>> throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
>> flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
>> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight 
>> bend in the lens mount on the body.
>> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the 
>> "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
>> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft 
>> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
>> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
>> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>> 
>> Jack (sniff) 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-02 Thread Stan Halpin
Oops indeed!

I took a fall several years ago. End of a long day, light fading, me rushing to 
a different vantage point on a Mayan ruin. Slipped on a loose stone. My istD w/ 
31mm LTD took the brunt of the fall. A quick inspection showed that it seemed 
to be working ok, but I was worried about hidden damage. Then the next morning 
the camera and lens were stolen and I didn't have to worry anymore.

Stan

On Dec 1, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
> easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
> throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
> flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight bend 
> in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the 
> "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft 
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> 
> Jack (sniff) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jack Davis
YYYou mean it can happen again 


Jack (I think he's just trying to scare me.  Yeah, that's it. whew!)


I wish ...

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Such remarks from so many have truly moved me. I'm grateful to the vagaries of 
life which resulted in my association with such a kind (and talented) group as 
composes the PDML.

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 4:47 PM
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jack
> Davis 
> wrote:
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> 
> Thank goodness you're okay, Jack.  Cameras and lenses
> can be repaired
> or re-purchased;  health is much more precious.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread frank theriault
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
> easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
> throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
> flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight bend 
> in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the 
> "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft 
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.

Thank goodness you're okay, Jack.  Cameras and lenses can be repaired
or re-purchased;  health is much more precious.

cheers,
frank


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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
YYYou mean it can happen again 

Jack (I think he's just trying to scare me.  Yeah, that's it. whew!)

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: John Sessoms 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:12 PM
> From: "Brian Walters"
> > Everyone seems to have a similar story.
> > 
> > I was out in the bush photographing a few months ago
> and had to step
> > over a low fence.  My foot caught and my knee and
> camera both hit the
> > ground at the same time. I think the lens hood on the
> 16-45 saved it and
> > the camera from serious damage but the hood itself
> stretched somehow and
> > wouldn't lock in place on the lens anymore.  A
> $88 replacement fixed
> > that ($88 for a bit of circular plastic seemed a bit
> rich but what can
> > you do?)
> > 
> > The knee eventually recovered but I had a list to the
> right for a few
> > days...
> > 
> > Glad you're OK.  Commiserations about the camera
> gear.
> 
> Boy, do I wish I could say I only had 'A' similar story
> ...
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Cotty! It was in a small not too well padded bag, so can't be exactly 
sure. From my recollection of the position of the bag when I picked it up and 
the position of the camera (with mounted lens) within the bag, it received the 
impact on the grip edge near the base. If you were to look at the body from the 
front, the mount was bent about at the placement of the detente receiver 
hole..'prox 4:00 o'clock. Lens must have received a blow at the same relative 
location.
In my unique idiot fog, I force mounted another lens (50~135) to check if the 
lens mounting ring on the 16~45 might also be bent. When I went to remove it, I 
realized I might not be able to get it off. Emitting a medley of animal 
birthing sounds (mostly from deep in my throat) struggling to remove it. 
Obviously didn't want to ship that lens as well. Much teeth gritting and 
grunting seemed to work as I finally got it to release and come off. 
Just explaining it made me tired. ;)

Jack
 
--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Cotty  wrote:

> From: Cotty 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "pentax list" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 3:04 PM
> On 1/12/09, Jack Davis,
> discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short
> >photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite
> bag containing
> >the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen
> w/mini ball head).
> >"Bogen" is easier to spell.
> >As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of
> >a throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival
> instinct, I
> >emptied my hands to help catch myself when I contacted
> the cement floor.
> >All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor
> in sort of a
> >forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all
> I had on the
> >display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove
> and was
> >obviously not mating with contacts. Upon removing the
> lens, with some
> >effort, I could see a slight bend in the lens mount on
> the body.
> >I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on
> >the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C"
> mode. while the
> >focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the
> narrow end, the images
> >were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> >Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair
> >facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> >
> >Jack (sniff)
> 
> Sorry to read that Jack.
> 
> When the camera hit, was it bang in the middle, or off to
> one side...
> 
> 
> -->  ;-)
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Brian Walters"

Everyone seems to have a similar story.

I was out in the bush photographing a few months ago and had to step
over a low fence.  My foot caught and my knee and camera both hit the
ground at the same time. I think the lens hood on the 16-45 saved it and
the camera from serious damage but the hood itself stretched somehow and
wouldn't lock in place on the lens anymore.  A $88 replacement fixed
that ($88 for a bit of circular plastic seemed a bit rich but what can
you do?)

The knee eventually recovered but I had a list to the right for a few
days...

Glad you're OK.  Commiserations about the camera gear.


Boy, do I wish I could say I only had 'A' similar story ...

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Cotty
On 1/12/09, Jack Davis, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short
>photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing
>the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head).
>"Bogen" is easier to spell.
>As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of
>a throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I
>emptied my hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
>All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a
>forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the
>display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was
>obviously not mating with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some
>effort, I could see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
>I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on
>the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the
>focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images
>were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
>Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair
>facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>
>Jack (sniff)

Sorry to read that Jack.

When the camera hit, was it bang in the middle, or off to one side...


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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 1, 2009, at 15:08, eckinator wrote:

> Please, can you teach me?
> 

It's easy. 

First, you get a 3-month-old kid (ideally, one you care about) and hold onto 
'em.

Then go onto an icy set of stairs and try not to let the kid die.

>From there it's just instinct!  :-)

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Re: OOPS!

2009-12-01 Thread eckinator
2009/12/1 Jack Davis :
> My first time and I'll have no trouble remembering it. :(
> Thanks, Eckinator!
>
> Jack

I know... it sucks and there is no comfort to be drawn from the bad
luck of others...
Cheers
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks much, Brian! I don't feel so "special" now that everyone has related 
like experiences. ;)

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Brian Walters  wrote:

> From: Brian Walters 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 1:18 PM
> Everyone seems to have a similar
> story.
> 
> I was out in the bush photographing a few months ago and
> had to step
> over a low fence.  My foot caught and my knee and
> camera both hit the
> ground at the same time. I think the lens hood on the 16-45
> saved it and
> the camera from serious damage but the hood itself
> stretched somehow and
> wouldn't lock in place on the lens anymore.  A $88
> replacement fixed
> that ($88 for a bit of circular plastic seemed a bit rich
> but what can
> you do?)
> 
> The knee eventually recovered but I had a list to the right
> for a few
> days...
> 
> Glad you're OK.  Commiserations about the camera
> gear.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/
> 
> 
> On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:44 -0800, "Jack Davis" 
> wrote:
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo
> > trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag
> containing the K20,
> > DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini
> ball head). "Bogen"
> > is easier to spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a
> > throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival
> instinct, I emptied
> > my hands to help catch myself when I contacted the
> cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a
> > forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all
> I had on the
> > display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to
> remove and was obviously
> > not mating with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with
> some effort, I
> > could see a slight bend in the lens mount on the
> body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on
> > the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C"
> mode. while the
> > focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the
> narrow end, the images
> > were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility
> > at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff) 
> > 
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Re: OOPS!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
My first time and I'll have no trouble remembering it. :(
Thanks, Eckinator!

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, eckinator  wrote:

> From: eckinator 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:24 AM
> Totally... sorry to hear about your
> mishap and remember this happens
> to all of us in some form or another =)
> Cheers
> Ecke
> 
> 2009/12/1 John Sessoms :
> > From: Jack Davis
> >>
> >> Sad moment..
> >
> > Yep. Glad you're ok, and it was only "things" that got
> hurt.
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Brian Walters
Everyone seems to have a similar story.

I was out in the bush photographing a few months ago and had to step
over a low fence.  My foot caught and my knee and camera both hit the
ground at the same time. I think the lens hood on the 16-45 saved it and
the camera from serious damage but the hood itself stretched somehow and
wouldn't lock in place on the lens anymore.  A $88 replacement fixed
that ($88 for a bit of circular plastic seemed a bit rich but what can
you do?)

The knee eventually recovered but I had a list to the right for a few
days...

Glad you're OK.  Commiserations about the camera gear.


Cheers

Brian

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On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:44 -0800, "Jack Davis" 
wrote:
> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20,
> DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen"
> is easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied
> my hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a
> forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the
> display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously
> not mating with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I
> could see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on
> the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the
> focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images
> were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility
> at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> 
> Jack (sniff) 
> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
You're welcome, Peter. I won't soon forget ether. ;)

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, P. J. Alling  wrote:

> From: P. J. Alling 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 12:18 PM
> Sounds similar to my experience with
> an LX and Vivitar S1 35-86mm f2.8 a couple years before I
> went digital.  Except that the only ill effects were
> that the FA-1 prism won't dismount and the back of the
> camera and the filter ring of the lens are a bit
> scared.  Both camera and lens still work fine in all
> other respects, (filter ring not even bent enough to keep
> the from mounting a filter).  Hum, so I guess it really
> wasn't so much like your experience.
> 
> Thanks for reminding me to not do that with my K20D...
> 
> 
> Jack Davis wrote:
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff) 
> > 
> > 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Sounds like a "good move." A bit of Christmas cheer may give me a chance to 
practice it. ;)

Thanks, Charles.

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Charles Robinson  wrote:

> From: Charles Robinson 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 11:40 AM
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:20, David J
> Brooks wrote:
> > 
> > Back in 2006, i was sitting in a plastic chair on the
> dock at the hunt
> > camp. The back leg cracked and i fell back wards, with
> my FA 70-200
> > and istD in hand. As with you, my instincts kicked in
> and o out my
> > hand out, which happened to be the one with the camera
> gear in it.
> > 
> 
> I learned the first winter with my kids... how to always
> spin and land with the child on top of me.  I try to
> apply that to any wobbly moments with camera gear in hand
> now.  So far, so good!
> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread eckinator
Please, can you teach me?

2009/12/1 Charles Robinson :
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:20, David J Brooks wrote:
>>
>> Back in 2006, i was sitting in a plastic chair on the dock at the hunt
>> camp. The back leg cracked and i fell back wards, with my FA 70-200
>> and istD in hand. As with you, my instincts kicked in and o out my
>> hand out, which happened to be the one with the camera gear in it.
>>
>
> I learned the first winter with my kids... how to always spin and land with 
> the child on top of me.  I try to apply that to any wobbly moments with 
> camera gear in hand now.  So far, so good!
>
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Being on a cement floor I grimace thinking is I had actually fallen "on my 
elbows." That would permanently disable my "funny bone." |-\

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Tim Øsleby  wrote:

> From: Tim Øsleby 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 11:37 AM
> I tend to fall elbow first, when my
> hands are occupied with important stuff.
> Important stuff could mean anything from a slice of bread,
> to a DSRL.
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 2009/12/1 P N Stenquist :
> > Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're okay.
> >
> > When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air and
> hit the ground with
> > my face. Your decision was probably the more
> intelligent choice.
> >
> > Paul
> > On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >
> >> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning
> home from a short photo
> >> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite
> bag containing the K20, DA
> >> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini
> ball head). "Bogen" is
> >> easier to spell.
> >> As I approached the door into the house, I caught
> my toe on the edge of a
> >> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per
> survival instinct, I emptied my
> >> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the
> cement floor.
> >> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a
> >> forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on,
> all I had on the display
> >> was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove
> and was obviously not mating
> >> with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some
> effort, I could see a
> >> slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> >> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK,
> but would not focus on
> >> the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In
> "C" mode. while the focus
> >> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow
> end, the images were soft
> >> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> >> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility
> >> at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> >>
> >> Jack (sniff)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Your message brightened my mood, Marnie! 8-)
Thanks.

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, eactiv...@aol.com  wrote:

> From: eactiv...@aol.com 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 10:27 AM
> In a message dated 12/1/2009 7:44:57
> A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
> jdavi...@yahoo.com
> writes:
> 
> Happens to the best of  us. (Obviously.) 
> 
> Glad you're okay, which is the important  thing.
> 
> Marnie :-)
> 
> Sad moment.. I was unloading  gear after returning
> home from a short photo 
> trip. Was carrying the "mother"  bag, a satellite bag
> containing the K20, DA 
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001  Bogen w/mini ball
> head). "Bogen" is 
> easier to spell.
> As I approached the door  into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a 
> throw rug. Thought I was going  down so, per survival
> instinct, I emptied my 
> hands to help catch myself when I  contacted the
> cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the 
> floor in sort of a 
> forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I
> had  on the display was 
> a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was
> obviously  not mating 
> with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I
> could see  a slight 
> bend in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and  found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on 
> the "S" setting and shutter would  not release. In "C"
> mode. while the focus 
> indicator light indicated "in focus"  at the narrow
> end, the images were soft 
> beyond help. Element scramble  maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax
> repair  facility 
> at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
> 
> Jack (sniff)  
> 
> 
> 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks for that reminder, John. Will be more vigilant!

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, John Sessoms  wrote:

> From: John Sessoms 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 10:18 AM
> From: Bob Sullivan
> > Jack, Glad you're OK.  I was gonna ask about 2
> trips, but you
> > volunteered it yourself.  I find they are making
> the damned throw
> > rugs taller every year!   :-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
> > 
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jack Davis 
> > wrote:
> >>> As it turned out, I didn't go down..damn it!
>  Why do men not
> >>> want to make but one trip when carrying
> stuff..even if it means
> >>> using your teeth if necessary?
> >>> 
> >>> Jack
> >>> 
> 
> That's a lesson that it seems we have to learn the hard
> way.
> 
> Another good one where you might profit from my prior
> experience.
> 
> Always take the time to close ALL the buckles, snaps &
> zippers on the camera bag after changing lenses ...
> especially if you're standing on concrete.
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Ouch! David. Yes, as I believe someone else pointed out, good thing self 
preservation kicks in automatically.

Jack 

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, David J Brooks  wrote:

> From: David J Brooks 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 10:20 AM
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jack
> Davis 
> wrote:
> > Sad moment..
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> >
> > Jack (sniff)
> 
> I feel your pain.
> 
> Back in 2006, i was sitting in a plastic chair on the dock
> at the hunt
> camp. The back leg cracked and i fell back wards, with my
> FA 70-200
> and istD in hand. As with you, my instincts kicked in and o
> out my
> hand out, which happened to be the one with the camera gear
> in it.
> 
> Pentax was able to fix the lens and camera, i was
> suprised.
> 
> Dave
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
LoL..Thanks, Bob!

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Bob Sullivan  wrote:

> From: Bob Sullivan 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 9:58 AM
> Jack,
> Glad you're OK.  I was gonna ask about 2 trips, but
> you volunteered it
> yourself.  I find they are making the damned throw
> rugs taller every
> year!  :-)
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > As it turned out, I didn't go down..damn it!
>  Why do men not want to make but one trip when
> carrying stuff..even if it means using your teeth if
> necessary?
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > --- On Tue, 12/1/09, P N Stenquist 
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: P N Stenquist 
> >> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:07 AM
> >> Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're
> >> okay.
> >>
> >> When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air
> and hit
> >> the ground with my face. Your decision was
> probably the more
> >> intelligent choice.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >> On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> >>
> >> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after
> returning home
> >> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother"
> bag, a
> >> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc.
> and a light
> >> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is
> easier to
> >> spell.
> >> > As I approached the door into the house, I
> caught my
> >> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was
> going down so,
> >> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help
> catch
> >> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> >> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to
> the
> >> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I
> turned the
> >> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing
> F.. Lens
> >> was difficult to remove and was obviously not
> mating with
> >> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some
> effort, I could
> >> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> >> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted
> OK, but
> >> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter
> would not
> >> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator
> light
> >> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images
> were soft
> >> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> >> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to
> the new
> >> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st,
> Chandler, AZ
> >> 85226.
> >> >
> >> > Jack (sniff)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread P. J. Alling
Sounds similar to my experience with an LX and Vivitar S1 35-86mm f2.8 a 
couple years before I went digital.  Except that the only ill effects 
were that the FA-1 prism won't dismount and the back of the camera and 
the filter ring of the lens are a bit scared.  Both camera and lens 
still work fine in all other respects, (filter ring not even bent enough 
to keep the from mounting a filter).  Hum, so I guess it really wasn't 
so much like your experience.


Thanks for reminding me to not do that with my K20D...


Jack Davis wrote:

Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo trip. Was carrying the 
"mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 
Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to spell.
As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a throw 
rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to 
help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight bend 
in the lens mount on the body.
I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter 
would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at 
the narrow end, the images were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.

Jack (sniff) 




  


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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Charles Robinson
On Dec 1, 2009, at 12:20, David J Brooks wrote:
> 
> Back in 2006, i was sitting in a plastic chair on the dock at the hunt
> camp. The back leg cracked and i fell back wards, with my FA 70-200
> and istD in hand. As with you, my instincts kicked in and o out my
> hand out, which happened to be the one with the camera gear in it.
> 

I learned the first winter with my kids... how to always spin and land with the 
child on top of me.  I try to apply that to any wobbly moments with camera gear 
in hand now.  So far, so good!

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Tim Øsleby
I tend to fall elbow first, when my hands are occupied with important stuff.
Important stuff could mean anything from a slice of bread, to a DSRL.

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2009/12/1 P N Stenquist :
> Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're okay.
>
> When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air and hit the ground with
> my face. Your decision was probably the more intelligent choice.
>
> Paul
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>
>> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo
>> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA
>> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is
>> easier to spell.
>> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a
>> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my
>> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
>> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a
>> forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display
>> was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating
>> with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a
>> slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
>> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on
>> the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus
>> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
>> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
>> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility
>> at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>>
>> Jack (sniff)
>>
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 12/1/2009 7:44:57 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time, 
jdavi...@yahoo.com writes:

Happens to the best of  us. (Obviously.) 

Glad you're okay, which is the important  thing.

Marnie :-)

Sad moment.. I was unloading  gear after returning home from a short photo 
trip. Was carrying the "mother"  bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001  Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
easier to spell.
As I approached the door  into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
throw rug. Thought I was going  down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
hands to help catch myself when I  contacted the cement floor.
All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the  floor in sort of a 
forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had  on the display 
was 
a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously  not mating 
with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see  a slight 
bend in the lens mount on the body.
I put the lens on a K10 and  found it mounted OK, but would not focus on 
the "S" setting and shutter would  not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
indicator light indicated "in focus"  at the narrow end, the images were soft 
beyond help. Element scramble  maybe.(?)
Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair  facility 
at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.

Jack (sniff)  



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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sad moment..
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>
> Jack (sniff)

I feel your pain.

Back in 2006, i was sitting in a plastic chair on the dock at the hunt
camp. The back leg cracked and i fell back wards, with my FA 70-200
and istD in hand. As with you, my instincts kicked in and o out my
hand out, which happened to be the one with the camera gear in it.

Pentax was able to fix the lens and camera, i was suprised.

Dave
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob Sullivan

Jack, Glad you're OK.  I was gonna ask about 2 trips, but you
volunteered it yourself.  I find they are making the damned throw
rugs taller every year!   :-) Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jack Davis 
wrote:

As it turned out, I didn't go down..damn it!  Why do men not
want to make but one trip when carrying stuff..even if it means
using your teeth if necessary?

Jack



That's a lesson that it seems we have to learn the hard way.

Another good one where you might profit from my prior experience.

Always take the time to close ALL the buckles, snaps & zippers on the 
camera bag after changing lenses ... especially if you're standing on 
concrete.


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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jack,
Glad you're OK.  I was gonna ask about 2 trips, but you volunteered it
yourself.  I find they are making the damned throw rugs taller every
year!  :-)
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> As it turned out, I didn't go down..damn it!  Why do men not want to make 
> but one trip when carrying stuff..even if it means using your teeth if 
> necessary?
>
> Jack
>
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, P N Stenquist  wrote:
>
>> From: P N Stenquist 
>> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:07 AM
>> Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're
>> okay.
>>
>> When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air and hit
>> the ground with my face. Your decision was probably the more
>> intelligent choice.
>>
>> Paul
>> On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>>
>> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
>> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
>> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
>> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
>> spell.
>> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
>> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
>> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
>> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
>> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
>> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
>> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
>> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
>> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
>> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
>> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
>> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
>> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
>> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
>> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
>> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
>> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
>> 85226.
>> >
>> > Jack (sniff)
>> >
>> >
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Re: OOPS!

2009-12-01 Thread eckinator
Totally... sorry to hear about your mishap and remember this happens
to all of us in some form or another =)
Cheers
Ecke

2009/12/1 John Sessoms :
> From: Jack Davis
>>
>> Sad moment..
>
> Yep. Glad you're ok, and it was only "things" that got hurt.
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RE: OOPS!

2009-12-01 Thread John Sessoms

From: Jack Davis
Sad moment.. 


Yep. Glad you're ok, and it was only "things" that got hurt.

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Boris Liberman
Jack, back in 2007 I swiped the perfectly good FA 43/1.9 Ltd off the
counter on my way to Prague. So I can totally relate to what you feel.
But most importantly you were unharmed.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Yes! The right perspective, Boris.
>
> Jack

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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Physically fine..thanks, Tom.

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Tom C  wrote:

> From: Tom C 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:31 AM
> Yikes!  Sorry.  A testament
> to your survival though.  Hope you're OK.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> >
> > Jack (sniff)
> >
> >
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
As it turned out, I didn't go down..damn it!  Why do men not want to make 
but one trip when carrying stuff..even if it means using your teeth if 
necessary?

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, P N Stenquist  wrote:

> From: P N Stenquist 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:07 AM
> Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're
> okay.
> 
> When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air and hit
> the ground with my face. Your decision was probably the more
> intelligent choice.
> 
> Paul
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
> 
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> > 
> > Jack (sniff)
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Tom C
Yikes!  Sorry.  A testament to your survival though.  Hope you're OK.

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
> easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
> throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
> flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight bend 
> in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the 
> "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft 
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>
> Jack (sniff)
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Jack Davis
Yes! The right perspective, Boris.

Jack

--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Boris Liberman  wrote:

> From: Boris Liberman 
> Subject: Re: OOPS!!
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:17 AM
> As long as it is plastic and metal
> that need repair, it is unfortunate
> and unpleasant but harmless...
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Jack Davis 
> wrote:
> > Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home
> from a short photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a
> satellite bag containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light
> tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to
> spell.
> > As I approached the door into the house, I caught my
> toe on the edge of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so,
> per survival instinct, I emptied my hands to help catch
> myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> > All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the
> floor in sort of a forward throw. Later, when I turned the
> camera on, all I had on the display was a flashing F.. Lens
> was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could
> see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
> > I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but
> would not focus on the "S" setting and shutter would not
> release. In "C" mode. while the focus indicator light
> indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> > Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new
> Pentax repair facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ
> 85226.
> >
> > Jack (sniff)
> >
> >
> >
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread Boris Liberman
As long as it is plastic and metal that need repair, it is unfortunate
and unpleasant but harmless...



On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short photo 
> trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag containing the K20, DA 
> 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/mini ball head). "Bogen" is 
> easier to spell.
> As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge of a 
> throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct, I emptied my 
> hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement floor.
> All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a forward 
> throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the display was a 
> flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was obviously not mating with 
> contacts. Upon removing the lens, with some effort, I could see a slight bend 
> in the lens mount on the body.
> I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus on the 
> "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while the focus 
> indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end, the images were soft 
> beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
> Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair facility at 
> 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.
>
> Jack (sniff)
>
>
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Re: OOPS!!

2009-12-01 Thread P N Stenquist

Sorry to hear that, but I hope you're okay.

When I fall I tend to hold my camera up in the air and hit the ground  
with my face. Your decision was probably the more intelligent choice.


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On Dec 1, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Sad moment.. I was unloading gear after returning home from a short  
photo trip. Was carrying the "mother" bag, a satellite bag  
containing the K20, DA 16-45 etc. and a light tripod (3001 Bogen w/ 
mini ball head). "Bogen" is easier to spell.
As I approached the door into the house, I caught my toe on the edge  
of a throw rug. Thought I was going down so, per survival instinct,  
I emptied my hands to help catch myself when I contacted the cement  
floor.
All but the mother bag on my shoulder went to the floor in sort of a  
forward throw. Later, when I turned the camera on, all I had on the  
display was a flashing F.. Lens was difficult to remove and was  
obviously not mating with contacts. Upon removing the lens, with  
some effort, I could see a slight bend in the lens mount on the body.
I put the lens on a K10 and found it mounted OK, but would not focus  
on the "S" setting and shutter would not release. In "C" mode. while  
the focus indicator light indicated "in focus" at the narrow end,  
the images were soft beyond help. Element scramble maybe.(?)
Both K20 body and lens are on their way to the new Pentax repair  
facility at 250 North 54th st, Chandler, AZ 85226.


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Re: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
That way, you know your lens is broken for sure, since the hood held
up just fine .

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Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 7:38:10 AM, you wrote:

PA> Which is why I generally  try to use metal lens hoods when I can.

PA> -Original Message-
>>From: John Sessoms 
>>Sent: Jan 20, 2009 9:27 AM
>>To: pdml@pdml.net
>>Subject: RE: Oops!
>>
>>From: John Graves
>>> Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it 
>>> came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but it 
>>> did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has 
>>> anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue 
>>> recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew
>>
>>I've had LOTS of experience trying to glue a plastic lens hood back 
>>together. That's because nothing works.
>>
>>I've tried everything from duck tape to epoxy to gorilla glue to super 
>>glue.
>>
>>Gorilla glue worked the best. Held it for almost three days before the 
>>joint failed again.
>>
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RE: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Alling
Which is why I generally  try to use metal lens hoods when I can.

-Original Message-
>From: John Sessoms 
>Sent: Jan 20, 2009 9:27 AM
>To: pdml@pdml.net
>Subject: RE: Oops!
>
>From: John Graves
>> Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it 
>> came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but it 
>> did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has 
>> anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue 
>> recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew
>
>I've had LOTS of experience trying to glue a plastic lens hood back 
>together. That's because nothing works.
>
>I've tried everything from duck tape to epoxy to gorilla glue to super 
>glue.
>
>Gorilla glue worked the best. Held it for almost three days before the 
>joint failed again.
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Re: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
I had some luck with scale model glue - when I still had time to build 
scale models we often made our own glue with scrap plastic and xylol - 
sometimes I had to add reinforcements like glass tissue or long fibers 
(roving). Once I glued my kid's model train with cianoacrilate and paper 
as reinforcing fiber - tried that just to keep him happy but it's still 
fine years later.


LF

John Sessoms escreveu:

From: John Graves
Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it 
came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but 
it did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has 
anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue 
recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew


I've had LOTS of experience trying to glue a plastic lens hood back 
together. That's because nothing works.


I've tried everything from duck tape to epoxy to gorilla glue to super 
glue.


Gorilla glue worked the best. Held it for almost three days before the 
joint failed again.


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RE: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread John Sessoms

From: John Graves
Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it 
came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but it 
did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has 
anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue 
recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew


I've had LOTS of experience trying to glue a plastic lens hood back 
together. That's because nothing works.


I've tried everything from duck tape to epoxy to gorilla glue to super 
glue.


Gorilla glue worked the best. Held it for almost three days before the 
joint failed again.


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Re: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread Luiz Felipe
Sound advice from John and Paul indeed. If you feel like guing and have 
access to, try scale model glue as it melts the parts along the contact 
area, care not to use too much glue - you may end with a modern art 
sculpture.


If you go for the glue, prepare a surface to place the hood while it 
dries - I'd suggest some glass for this particular glue. Also, whatever 
glue you use, keep the shade away from any lens for a fairly long time - 
cianoacrilate fumes may render anything they cling on useless, and any 
solvent may harm your lens' coating if you put them together too soon.


You're probably better off with a replacement... but I do glue something 
I'd better buy now and then myself. Good luck anyway.


LF

John Graves escreveu:
Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it 
came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but 
it did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has 
anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue 
recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew


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Re: Oops!

2009-01-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Gorilla Glue might work. You can find it in most good hardware stores.  
But I would think a replacement lens shade is relatively inexpensive.
BTW, I'd test that lens for accurate autofocus and a flat field, just  
to make sure you didn't knock something out of place.

Paul
On Jan 19, 2009, at 11:34 PM, John Graves wrote:

Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and  
it came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter  
but it did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the  
piece.  Has anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are  
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Re: Oops!

2009-01-19 Thread John Celio

Well, i did it and I can't blame anyone else.  I dropped my DS and it
came down on the lens shade for my 20-35 lens.  It didn't shatter but it
did knock a piece out of the mount circle.  I have the piece.  Has
anyone had success gluing these plastic shades and are there any glue
recommendations?  BTW, lens is fine..phew


I glued together a broken lens hood for my DA 18-55.  It didn't snap into
place very well anymore, but was reasonably functional with some tape to
hold it in place.  I ended up buying a used (but intact) replacement on
eBay.  Try some Super Glue, Zap-A-Gap or plastic model cement and see how it
works for you.

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-28 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Eric Featherstone"

> On 27/10/2007, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>>> > > From: "Bob W"
>>> > >
 > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
>>> > >
>>> > > What the heck is that thing carrying?
>> >
>> > It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's
>> > used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding?
>> >
>> > As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something
>> > they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just
>> > being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge.
> 
> [de-lurking briefly..]
> It is, apparently, an un-deployed Cramer Underbridge unit
> http://www.eplaccess.co.uk/default.asp?Page=Product5Details&MachineID=38
> 
> Quite cool.

It is indeed.

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-28 Thread mike wilson
Eric Featherstone wrote:
> On 27/10/2007, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>>
>>>From: "Bob W"
>>>
>>>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
>>>
>>>What the heck is that thing carrying?
>>
>>It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's
>>used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding?
>>
>>As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something
>>they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just
>>being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge.
> 
> 
> [de-lurking briefly..]
> It is, apparently, an un-deployed Cramer Underbridge unit
> http://www.eplaccess.co.uk/default.asp?Page=Product5Details&MachineID=38

And, suprisingly, it is at least the second time this year that one has 
been involved in an accident.

http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_reports/reports_2007/report362007.cfm
(Link to one being deployed under a railway brdge without the proper 
permission and subsequently being hit by a train)

For those of a technical bent, this site has some interesting reports on 
air, rail and marine "accidents".  I put it in quotes because many of 
them seem to be more due to stupidity than coincidence.
 
http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_reports/reports_2007/report362007.cfm

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-28 Thread David J Brooks
Thats why i follow.

LOL

Dave

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> That's what you get when you let Dave B. drive the lead truck, not the
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> Regards, Bob S.
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Re: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread David Mann
On Oct 27, 2007, at 9:28 PM, Bob W wrote:

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm

I bet the upholstery on the driver's seat is now an interesting shade  
of brown.

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread cbwaters
That's a pretty damned cool machine but man... their voice-
over dude is a total drip..  I guess Eeyore was booked?

I wonder if the company's insurance agent had any sort of episode when they 
called to say they'd driven the thing off a bridge...

CW

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Subject: Re: Oops!


> On 27/10/2007, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
>> > From: "Bob W"
>> >
>> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
>> >
>> > What the heck is that thing carrying?
>>
>> It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's
>> used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding?
>>
>> As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something
>> they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just
>> being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge.
>
> [de-lurking briefly..]
> It is, apparently, an un-deployed Cramer Underbridge unit
> http://www.eplaccess.co.uk/default.asp?Page=Product5Details&MachineID=38
>
> Quite cool.
>
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Re: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread Eric Featherstone
On 27/10/2007, John Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> > From: "Bob W"
> >
> > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
> >
> > What the heck is that thing carrying?
>
> It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's
> used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding?
>
> As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something
> they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just
> being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge.

[de-lurking briefly..]
It is, apparently, an un-deployed Cramer Underbridge unit
http://www.eplaccess.co.uk/default.asp?Page=Product5Details&MachineID=38

Quite cool.

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 02:17:43PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote:
> From: "Bob W"
> 
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
> 
> What the heck is that thing carrying?

It looks like some kind of crane-mounted platform; maybe it's
used in places where it would be difficult to erect scaffolding?

As the area was closed for maintenance I'd guess it's something
they were using for part of the work being done, rather than just
being a random piece of equipment in transit over the bridge.


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RE: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread Bob W
> 
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm
> 
> What the heck is that thing carrying?
> 

bridge parts?

Bob


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RE: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread John Sessoms
From: "Bob W"

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7064879.stm

What the heck is that thing carrying?

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Re: Oops!

2007-10-27 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bob W.,
That's what you get when you let Dave B. drive the lead truck, not the
follow truck.
Regards, Bob S.

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Re: Oops

2007-08-10 Thread Rick Womer
Chicago recreated in miniature on an Oxford street! 
It's a miracle!

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> Looks like an aerial view of Chicago, with Lake
> Michigan to the right. ;+]
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> Kenneth Waller
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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rick Womer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: Oops
> 
> 
> > Sometimes one goes through one's photos (or a box
> of
> > slides, in the old days) and wonders "How did THAT
> get
> > in there??"
> > 
> > This is one of those.  There seems to be some
> > pavement, but I have no idea what the blue thing
> is. 
> > Still, it appeals to me.
> > 
> > Comments welcome!
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Re: Oops

2007-08-09 Thread Kenneth Waller
Looks like an aerial view of Chicago, with Lake Michigan to the right. ;+]

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> Sometimes one goes through one's photos (or a box of
> slides, in the old days) and wonders "How did THAT get
> in there??"
> 
> This is one of those.  There seems to be some
> pavement, but I have no idea what the blue thing is. 
> Still, it appeals to me.
> 
> Comments welcome!
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Re: oops! I meant SMC K 85 1.8

2004-07-16 Thread Keith Whaley
It's always nice when one finds he didn't spend way too much for his!
Initially I was appalled, but since then I've gathered support for the 
price I DID pay... 
Very nice lens!

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Re: oops! I meant SMC K 85 1.8

2004-07-16 Thread Jim Colwell
SMCP 85/1.8 

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Re: oops Re: Selling Pentax 35mm gear (tough choices-Peter's dog)

2004-07-04 Thread Cotty
On 4/7/04, Shaun Canning, discombobulated, offered:

>Oops..ditto..should have been Peter.
>
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>>Sorry that should have been Peter not Cotty. 

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Re: oops Re: Selling Pentax 35mm gear (tough choices-Peter's dog)

2004-07-04 Thread Shaun Canning
Oops..ditto..should have been Peter.
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Re: Oops - I did it again [A* vs F* 300's]

2002-11-14 Thread David A. Mann
Fred wrote:

> Congratulations.  You picked up a really fine lens.

Thanks.  From the other comments I've seen, I'm sure I've made a good 
purchase.  I think I wouldn't have bought it if it wasn't for the 
following reasons:

1) I already have the A*300mm f/4 but the 4m minimum focus distance is a 
bit of a pain.  I'm also not very good at focusing long MF glass quickly 
enough when my subject is moving... so the auto focus is a real plus.  So 
is the built-in tripod mount.

2) I was wishing for something slightly wider while using the FA*400mm 
f/5.6 last weekend.  Today while using this F* 300mm lens, I've found 
that it fits in my bag much more easily as well.  The lighter weight is 
another bonus.

> Perhaps you can post a photo of the modified mount?

I will do so as soon as I can get it near a digital camera.

> However, The F* 300/4.5 is also larger (longer by about 3cm) than
> the M*/A* 300/4 - it's not a huge difference, but it's enough so
> that the A* (focused at infinity) does fit neatly in my camera bag,
> while the F* is simply too long (too tall) to fit (although "your
> mileage may vary") (and it's heavier to lug around, too).

My small bag (Lowepro Nova 3) will fit this lens vertically, just.  With 
a body attached it would have to lie flat.

> Indeed.  As huge as the shoe is (especially compared to the nice A*
> 200/4 Macro tripod mount that can replace it), it is still nice to
> have.  I would say that the tripod shoe is the main reason why the
> F* 300/4.5 still often sells for close to what the FA* 300/4.5 does.

I would tend to agree with you there.  There's too much weight hanging 
off the front of the camera otherwise.  Whether thats just an academic 
argument is another matter.  I've taken some great pics with the A* lens 
on a tripod, at some stupid shutter speeds.  However I was more careful 
with my technique due to the front-heavy nature of the rig.

> It is better, in my opinion, than both the bayonet hood of the FA*
> and the sliding "mini-hoods" of the M*/A* (even though it took me a
> while to figure out how to fully use it - I had trouble securing it
> while extended at first - doh! - ).

Yes, that's where I was starting to head with my thoughts yesterday.  
After using the lens a bit today I do prefer this style of hood.  The FA* 
bayonet hoods add too much bulk and tend to be fragile (they're plastic), 
and a bit fiddly as you have to separate them from the lens.

The built-in sliding hood of the A*300mm f/4 is not deep enough.  Because 
of this I bought a gigantic generic brand 77mm metal hood that I found in 
the camera shop's big bag of secondhand hoods.  This hood is 3-1/4" 
(83mm) long and 3-1/2" (89mm) wide at the opening.  Mamiya rubber hoods 
for RB67 glass (the "127~250mm" hood) suit this lens as well, while 
making it look almost like an f/2.8 lens.

The only gripe I have about the F*300mm f/4.5 hood is that I keep trying 
to screw it the wrong way.  It is quite hard to unscrew if you've done it 
up too tight.

> I
> do wish that the gear train was disabled when using the clutch set
> for manual focusing (as it is, I understand, in the FA* 300/4.5),

It is with the FA*400/5.6 and FA*24/2 so I guess the FA*300/4.5 does the 
same thing.  It is a very very nice feature, but I still wish these close-
focussing long lenses had a distance limit switch like the big glass 
does.  If the Z-1p can't lock (or starts focussing the wrong way), it 
takes a while to go through the entire range and back.  Half the focus 
throw of this lens covers the 2-4 metre range.

> but I don't find the "whirring" feeling of the F* 300/4.5 to be as
> objectionable as on many of the "clutchless" autofocus lenses I have
> tried.

The F* is very nice to manually focus.  In fact it feels the best of all 
my AF glass.  I can't feel any whirring, although I can hear it if I'm 
focussing quickly.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: Oops - I did... Note on Fred's comments

2002-11-14 Thread Pentxuser



In a message dated 11/14/02 8:39:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



<< Well, I plan on keeping both the A* 300/4 and the F* 300/4.5.  The
F* is ultimately a sharper lens (as much as I hate to admit it -
), with a very effective hood, with pretty good manual focus
feel, and with a solid if bulky tripod mount.  However, it is also a
bit slower, which is sometimes significant, and it is less portable
due to its extra length.

Fred >>

Fred I would just like to say that I appreciate all your very knowledgable 
comments on the PDML. You do add a great deal to our collective knowledge. 
Keep up the great work.

Vic 




Re: Re: Oops - I did it again

2002-11-14 Thread David Brooks
Even though my course is developing/darkroom, i know 
for sure we have 1 Canon Rebel,1 Minolta ?? and 2 K1000's
(one from me:))So far the K1000's are producing nicer enlargements
IMNSHO

Dave
 Begin Original Message 

From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I was surrounded with Nikons and Canons and Minolta,
a Leica and even a Contax in my course.  I wasn't fooled by the names!



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Re: Oops - I did it again [A* vs F* 300's]

2002-11-14 Thread Fred
Dave:

Some interspersed comments:

> Today's purchase is a nice little secondhand F*300mm f/4.5 lens.

Congratulations.  You picked up a really fine lens.

> The previous owner had modified the tripod shoe a bit as he
> thought it  stuck out too far, so he had it shortened both in
> height and length.   Looking at the photo on Boz's site it does
> look a bit like overkill.

Perhaps you can post a photo of the modified mount?

> I really like the handling of this lens; it seems less front-heavy
> than  the A*300mm f/4, and it focusses a lot closer.

It definitely is less front heavy than the M*/A* 300/4 (that 77mm
front element of the M*/A* lens ~has~ to weigh more than the 67mm
front of the F* lens, of course).  (However, the M*/A* lens actually
weighs less in total than does the F* lens.) And the closer focusing
(2m instead of 4m) is indeed a plus.

However, The F* 300/4.5 is also larger (longer by about 3cm) than
the M*/A* 300/4 - it's not a huge difference, but it's enough so
that the A* (focused at infinity) does fit neatly in my camera bag,
while the F* is simply too long (too tall) to fit (although "your
mileage may vary") (and it's heavier to lug around, too).  And,
despite the smaller front element in the F*, it is just as wide as
is the M*/A* (due, of course, to the extra girth of the built-in
hood - I'm assuming that this is not true with the FA* lens).  (By
the way, and not too surprisingly, the lengths of the M*/A* 300/4
and the IF-style F* 300/4.5 end up being almost exactly the same
when focused close.)

Of course, the F* lens looks nothing like the A* lens, and,
subjectively speaking, I still prefer the looks of the A* (or, even
better, the M*) 300/4 over either of the 300/4.5's (but "your
mileage may vary").

> The tripod shoe is well worth having.

Indeed.  As huge as the shoe is (especially compared to the nice A*
200/4 Macro tripod mount that can replace it), it is still nice to
have.  I would say that the tripod shoe is the main reason why the
F* 300/4.5 still often sells for close to what the FA* 300/4.5 does.

> The built-in hood is quite interesting: you unscrew it,  slide it
> out, then screw it into place.  It actually makes sense; it  seems
> a bit better than the bayonet-fitting hoods of the FA* lenses.

It is better, in my opinion, than both the bayonet hood of the FA*
and the sliding "mini-hoods" of the M*/A* (even though it took me a
while to figure out how to fully use it - I had trouble securing it
while extended at first - doh! - ).  By the way, the separate
screw-in accessory hood for the M* 300/4 (which obviously also fits
the A* 300/4) is definitely worth having - it's not only longer than
the M*/A*'s sliding hood, it's also a lot more secure in use.

> I don't like the MF/AF selection; you have to change the setting
> on both  the lens and the body.  Also you don't slide the whole
> focus ring: there  is a separate ring at the camera end of the
> focus ring.  I'm too used to  the FA* lenses which disengage the
> body automatically when you set the  lens to manual (and the
> clutch mechanism is much nicer in general).

Owning mostly manual focus lenses (and only one FA lens, the FA*
85/1.4), I don't have any already-learned habits to break - .  I
do wish that the gear train was disabled when using the clutch set
for manual focusing (as it is, I understand, in the FA* 300/4.5),
but I don't find the "whirring" feeling of the F* 300/4.5 to be as
objectionable as on many of the "clutchless" autofocus lenses I have
tried.

> Now if I end up liking this lens I may have to sell the beloved A*
> 300mm  f/4 due to lack of use :(

Well, I plan on keeping both the A* 300/4 and the F* 300/4.5.  The
F* is ultimately a sharper lens (as much as I hate to admit it -
), with a very effective hood, with pretty good manual focus
feel, and with a solid if bulky tripod mount.  However, it is also a
bit slower, which is sometimes significant, and it is less portable
due to its extra length.

Fred





Re: Oops - I did it again

2002-11-14 Thread Brad Dobo

- Original Message -
From: "David A. Mann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:38 AM
Subject: Oops - I did it again


> Yes, I spent more money :(
>
> Today's purchase is a nice little secondhand F*300mm f/4.5 lens.  Its
> previous owner is doing a photography course, and since everyone else was
> using Nikon he sold his Pentax kit.  And who am I to complain?  Some
> other lenses he was selling were quite tempting but I eventually decided
> against them.

I'm jealous Dave, I'm keeping my eye on that focal range now.  Spending
money is what it's all about, or we'd be rock collectors or something like
that ;-)  Would it be rude to ask the price you paid for it?  Shame on the
person that switched.  I was surrounded with Nikons and Canons and Minolta,
a Leica and even a Contax in my course.  I wasn't fooled by the names!




Re: Pentax Screen Tweezers (Was Re: Oops)

2002-11-10 Thread Paul Stenquist


Mark Roberts wrote:

> I think all the focusing screens come with tweezers (or they're supposed to)
> but I usually use surgical forceps (I think you can still buy these at Radio Shack!)

In the old days we called them roach clips.
Paul




Re: Pentax Screen Tweezers (Was Re: Oops)

2002-11-10 Thread Mark Roberts
Lon Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Which reminds me:  Does Pentax still sell screen tweezers?
>Will any tweezer sold work with any screens?  I just picked
>up a couple MXen (one with split/microprism, one with plain,
>and an extra grid screen) and would like to get a tool that
>lets me change these EASILY.  Right now I'm using a dental
>pick.

I think all the focusing screens come with tweezers (or they're supposed to)
but I usually use surgical forceps (I think you can still buy these at Radio
Shack!)

-- 
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www.robertstech.com
Photography and writing




Re: Oops

2002-11-10 Thread Lon Williamson
Try telling yourself the screen is now "brassed" and
therefore has been to hell and back on a brassed LX.


Shaun Canning wrote:
> 
> Alas, all too late Vic, but luckily the scratch is only minor. It will not
> affect anything other than my pride




Re: Pentax Screen Tweezers (Was Re: Oops)

2002-11-10 Thread Frits Wüthrich
The grid screen for my PZ-1 came with a tweezer. Isn't that included with all 
screens?

Frits

On Sunday 10 November 2002 21:26, Lon Williamson wrote:
> Which reminds me:  Does Pentax still sell screen tweezers?
> Will any tweezer sold work with any screens?  I just picked
> up a couple MXen (one with split/microprism, one with plain,
> and an extra grid screen) and would like to get a tool that
> lets me change these EASILY.  Right now I'm using a dental
> pick.
>
> -Lon


-- 
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Pentaxianado




Pentax Screen Tweezers (Was Re: Oops)

2002-11-10 Thread Lon Williamson
Which reminds me:  Does Pentax still sell screen tweezers?
Will any tweezer sold work with any screens?  I just picked
up a couple MXen (one with split/microprism, one with plain,
and an extra grid screen) and would like to get a tool that
lets me change these EASILY.  Right now I'm using a dental
pick.

-Lon

Shaun Canning wrote:
> 
> You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for
> changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise bewdiful
> LX screen. Damn I hate that...




RE: Oops

2002-11-05 Thread Pat White
It's always dicey using metal tools around plastic parts.  I remember being
very careful changing screens on my MX.  However, last month I was looking
through the viewfinder on my MZ-S and noticed some dust.  I removed the lens
and was able to release the screen frame with a fingernail.

Then I carefully lifted out the screen, blew the dust off, and re-installed
it, all without tools.  I was pleased with both myself and the MZ-S design.
I'm 5-10/180cm, with medium sized hands, in case someone thought I was a
munchkin.

Pat White





RE: Oops

2002-11-05 Thread Shaun Canning
Too damned easy isn't it?

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University, Bundoora, 
Australia, 3086.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 0414-967 644

-Original Message-
From: Sas Gabor [mailto:sas.gabor@;fornax.hu]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2002 08:01
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oops

Hi,

On 5 Nov 2002 at 14:15, Shaun Canning wrote:
> You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for
> changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise
> bewdiful LX screen. Damn I hate that...

I know.
The easiest way to make an LX unique... ;-)


Gabor
(pride user of a well-scratched SG-60)




Re: Oops

2002-11-05 Thread Sas Gabor
Hi,

On 5 Nov 2002 at 14:15, Shaun Canning wrote:
> You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for
> changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise
> bewdiful LX screen. Damn I hate that...

I know.
The easiest way to make an LX unique... ;-)


Gabor
(pride user of a well-scratched SG-60)




RE: Oops

2002-11-04 Thread ernreed2
Shaun posted
> They seem to pop up on Ebay pretty regularly. I got my last one from a guy
> in Hong Kong for about 25.00 USD. I think Rob Studdert had some for sale not
> long ago too


In reply to
> So I am waiting for my new screen. And if I scratch that one, I think even
> you
> guys in Oz will be able to hear the swearing.

Thanks but hopefully I won't need that information -- when I said I'm waiting 
for my new screen, I meant that I have found one and made arrangements to get 
it. My problem with finding a replacement for the one I scratched is that it 
was a -60 series and none of those appeared in response to my eBay search. 





RE: Oops

2002-11-04 Thread Shaun Canning
They seem to pop up on Ebay pretty regularly. I got my last one from a guy
in Hong Kong for about 25.00 USD. I think Rob Studdert had some for sale not
long ago too

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University, Bundoora,
Australia, 3086.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 0414-967 644

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ernreed2@;texas.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2002 09:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oops

> You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for
> changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise bewdiful
> LX screen. Damn I hate that...
>

SO glad to hear I'm not the only one to do that!
It happened a few weeks ago to a screen I had Just Bought. Man I felt
stupid.

The sympathetic Better Half said, Find another. No matter where in the world
you find it, buy it.

So I am waiting for my new screen. And if I scratch that one, I think even
you
guys in Oz will be able to hear the swearing.

ERNR
(in
Texas)




Re: Oops

2002-11-04 Thread ernreed2
> You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for
> changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise bewdiful
> LX screen. Damn I hate that...
>

SO glad to hear I'm not the only one to do that! 
It happened a few weeks ago to a screen I had Just Bought. Man I felt stupid.

The sympathetic Better Half said, Find another. No matter where in the world 
you find it, buy it. 

So I am waiting for my new screen. And if I scratch that one, I think even you 
guys in Oz will be able to hear the swearing.

ERNR
(in
Texas)




RE: Oops

2002-11-04 Thread Shaun Canning
Alas, all too late Vic, but luckily the scratch is only minor. It will not
affect anything other than my pride

Shaun Canning
PhD Student
Archaeology Department
La Trobe University, Bundoora,
Australia, 3086.

e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 0414-967 644

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Pentxuser@;aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 5 November 2002 03:15
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oops


In a message dated 11/4/02 10:16:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for

changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise bewdiful

LX screen. Damn I hate that...


Shaun Canning >>

I'm with you Shaun. Be damn careful and you'll be ok.
Vic




Re: Oops

2002-11-04 Thread Pentxuser

In a message dated 11/4/02 10:16:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< You know what I really hate when those stupid little tweezers for

changing LX screens slip and scratch the crap out of an otherwise bewdiful

LX screen. Damn I hate that...


Shaun Canning >>

I'm with you Shaun. Be damn careful and you'll be ok.
Vic 




Re: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :)  Re: Fw: Trading LX's

2002-10-26 Thread Brad Dobo
I hope you are right Dave.  Maybe it'll arrive when the Pentax DSLR comes
out? ;-)

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :)  Re: Fw: Trading LX's


> Not a problem.I just got the impresion they were expecting
> them at Mississauga next week.May be mistaken though.
>
> Dave
>
>  Begin Original Message 
>
> From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:52:31 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :) Re: Fw: Trading LX's
>
>
> Hey Dave,
>
> No I have not yet, as he is out of them. If Pentax Canada is out,
> that
> means they'll ship them from Japan or wherever, and my store assures
> me it
> is order and will arrive at the store once it is available to Pentax
> Canada.
> I don't want to stiff my shop, I go there for more than shopping,
> etc. I'll
> let them do it, give say, another month, then call and cancel and
> phone your
> guy.
>
> Brad Dobo
> - Original Message -
>  From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:44 AM
> Subject: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :) Re: Fw: Trading LX's
>
>
> > Did you get holf of Minusha,the parts guy in Mississauga and place
> > an order?
> >
> > Dave
> >  Begin Original Message 
> >
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> > Sent: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:32:17 -0400
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: oops, stupid OE, read this one :) Re: Fw: Trading LX's
> >
> >
> > . (Still waiting on that cable release :~( )
> >
> > Brad Dobo
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :)  Re: Fw: Trading LX's

2002-10-26 Thread David Brooks
Not a problem.I just got the impresion they were expecting
them at Mississauga next week.May be mistaken though.

Dave

 Begin Original Message 

From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 09:52:31 -0400
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :)  Re: Fw: Trading LX's


Hey Dave,

No I have not yet, as he is out of them.  If Pentax Canada is out, 
that
means they'll ship them from Japan or wherever, and my store assures 
me it
is order and will arrive at the store once it is available to Pentax 
Canada.
I don't want to stiff my shop, I go there for more than shopping, 
etc.  I'll
let them do it, give say, another month, then call and cancel and 
phone your
guy.

Brad Dobo
- Original Message -
 From: "David Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: oops, stupid OE, read this one :)  Re: Fw: Trading LX's


> Did you get holf of Minusha,the parts guy in Mississauga and place
> an order?
>
> Dave
>  Begin Original Message 
>
> From: "Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 04:32:17 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: oops, stupid OE, read this one :) Re: Fw: Trading LX's
>
>
> . (Still waiting on that cable release :~( )
>
> Brad Dobo
>
> - Original Message -
>  From: "Bob Rapp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:01 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Trading LX's
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Oops (was Re: Sidewalk Sale at HondaMil)

2002-04-26 Thread Debra Wilborn

--- Mark Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops.  This _is_ a Pentax photo mailing list, not a
> motorcycle list... 
> 
> :-) 
> 
>  --Mark 


But you can take pictures of motorcycles with a
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