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On 30/9/06, Brendan MacRae, discombobulated, unleashed: Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN LOL -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Cotty wrote: We did an informal survey of working video shooters/editors and it seems that among the high-end users it's a shootout between FCP and Premiere, with far more using FCP Which country (ies) Bob? USA. The book will be for USA sale/distribution only. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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LOL! I guess I fell asleep before Conan came on that night... :) Thanks for the chuckle, Brendan ann Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. Cheers, Cotty Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN I just spent a bunch of money on a beautiful new Mac (my first) but even I thought that was hillarious... -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Well, I figured with all of your PC woes lately you could use a smile. ;-] -Brendan --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LOL! I guess I fell asleep before Conan came on that night... :) Thanks for the chuckle, Brendan ann Brendan MacRae wrote: --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. Cheers, Cotty Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN I just spent a bunch of money on a beautiful new Mac (my first) but even I thought that was hillarious... -Brendan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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YOu didn't have to reassure me on that - I doubled my Ram about a year ago to 512 and saw it. Meanwhile - thank goodness, my young techie showed up we got the USB ports back up So now I don't have an excuse for not working :) I'm supposed to get the new baby on Tuesday... I hope the regular UPS guy is on duty cause he knows me and there is a chance it will actually get delivered then. thank goodness for credit cards ann __ keith_w wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: Update -- I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was another $50 You'll just have to take my word for it...you will NEVER be unhappy you got extra RAM! Without except I know about, all computers run more smoothly the more RAM they have! Pay attention some day to folks that only have 250 or 500 MB. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Good to hear the computer is now operational. I sure you'll enjoy the new one. I've been pleased with my Dell units. Bit of effort configuring them to personal taste, but the improved performance is a great reward. Good luck Otis Wright Ann Sanfedele wrote: YOu didn't have to reassure me on that - I doubled my Ram about a year ago to 512 and saw it. Meanwhile - thank goodness, my young techie showed up we got the USB ports back up So now I don't have an excuse for not working :) I'm supposed to get the new baby on Tuesday... I hope the regular UPS guy is on duty cause he knows me and there is a chance it will actually get delivered then. thank goodness for credit cards ann __ keith_w wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: Update -- I called 'em back and asked for the 1 gig of ram - it was another $50 You'll just have to take my word for it...you will NEVER be unhappy you got extra RAM! Without except I know about, all computers run more smoothly the more RAM they have! Pay attention some day to folks that only have 250 or 500 MB. keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 29/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. Ann will of course be playing Box Brownie Marauder and Kung Fu Kamera so this function is useful ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 29/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm expecting that if I end up teaching a video production course, Premiere Pro is what will push me into getting Windows Vista. Mark, if I were you I would heavily consider both Avid software and FCP over Premiere. Those two are far more prevalent in broadcast - and there's a reason for that ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: On 29/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm expecting that if I end up teaching a video production course, Premiere Pro is what will push me into getting Windows Vista. Mark, if I were you I would heavily consider both Avid software and FCP over Premiere. Those two are far more prevalent in broadcast - and there's a reason for that ;-) The problem (or advantage, depending on how you look at it) is that the university gets good package deals from Adobe: One low price for Photoshop, Illustrator, Audition, Encore and Premiere. What are the shortcomings of Premiere that you know about? Perhaps I can start to argue for an alternative. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 10:16 AM, Bob W wrote: That's probably what makes them go wrong. People mess around without knowing what they're doing, then blame the manufacturer. I have a Compaq desktop machine (p2 300 I think) which has a solenoid in the chassis. You can set it to lock in the BIOS, and without the password (or some crafty BIOS hacking) you'd have to drill a hole in the case to ever get it open again. I never activated it, because if the BIOS ever crapped out I'd be completely up the creek. And yes, I have had to open the box to reset the BIOS a couple of times. - Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's true in advertising post production as well. I can't recall ever seeing anyone using Preemiere. It used to be all Avid, but now you see a lot of editors using FCP. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 3:36 AM, Cotty wrote: On 29/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm expecting that if I end up teaching a video production course, Premiere Pro is what will push me into getting Windows Vista. Mark, if I were you I would heavily consider both Avid software and FCP over Premiere. Those two are far more prevalent in broadcast - and there's a reason for that ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 30/9/06, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: The problem (or advantage, depending on how you look at it) is that the university gets good package deals from Adobe: One low price for Photoshop, Illustrator, Audition, Encore and Premiere. That makes sense. To be honest, working with NLE is like choosing a pair of shoes ;-) What are the shortcomings of Premiere that you know about? Perhaps I can start to argue for an alternative. These pages might start you off... http://www.computerarts.co.uk/reviews/software/video/avid_xpress_pro http://www.lafcpug.org/feature_fcp_vs_avid06.html If cost is a decision-maker (and when isn't it?) then Premiere is the way to go. they all do the job, but I notice that Avid and FCP tend to be very prevalent in UK broadcast. HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's true in advertising post production as well. I can't recall ever seeing anyone using Preemiere. It used to be all Avid, but now you see a lot of editors using FCP. I'm writing a book right now about digital video. We did an informal survey of working video shooters/editors and it seems that among the high-end users it's a shootout between FCP and Premiere, with far more using FCP. This is surprising to me since Avid not only offers theirs for both Windows and Mac (FCP is Mac only, Premiere is Windows only), but Avid also has a free version with most of the features you would need. It's available for both platforms. You can download the free Avid video editor at: http://www.avid.com/freedv/ There are also some good tutorials free on their site. To me this is damned smart marketing. The free version does most things, but if you want to have all of the pro features and tech support you have to upgrade to one of their two app packages. BTW, after our survey we're leaning the book toward FCP and Mac, although we will be including Premiere, Avid, and a few others just to be fair. Bob Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Mark Twain -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann, He knows what he's talking about it works. It will change the text size on all the controls that widows thinks are part of a message box, which includes all of the folders window, the list of messages, the text under the icons in the icon bar, etc., but it does work. Ann Sanfedele wrote: David - I have large type all over the place - differently set overall , in Netscape and in Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just right but nothing I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the http: stuff in it that is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it won't enlarge. and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take me to the page that the URL refers to :) I'll try your suggestion when I get XP. ann David Savage wrote: Give this a try: - Right Click on your desktop and select Properties, - Click on the Appearance tab, - Click on the Advanced tab, - Under Item select Message Box from the drop down list, - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click OK then Apply. This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels favorite text in Firefox larger. Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98. HTH Dave On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in the URL location box so I can actually see them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Cotty wrote: On 29/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. Ann will of course be playing Box Brownie Marauder and Kung Fu Kamera so this function is useful ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ har! I don't think you guys even want to know what i thought an XBOX was :) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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P. J. Alling wrote: Ann, He knows what he's talking about it works. It will change the text size on all the controls that widows thinks are part of a message box, which includes all of the folders window, the list of messages, the text under the icons in the icon bar, etc., but it does work. PEter - the thing I want to enlarge is the text within the location box... every thing else on my computer has been enlarged... but no matter what program I'm in, the stuff that is , for want of a better word, underneath stays the same. I did try what he suggested - it simply didn't work. IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean I may not be using the correct buzz word for the area I thought it was simply called the location box. I have to get out of here and escape from technology for a while now. It really has got me down. ann Ann Sanfedele wrote: David - I have large type all over the place - differently set overall , in Netscape and in Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just right but nothing I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the http: stuff in it that is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it won't enlarge. and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take me to the page that the URL refers to :) I'll try your suggestion when I get XP. ann David Savage wrote: Give this a try: - Right Click on your desktop and select Properties, - Click on the Appearance tab, - Click on the Advanced tab, - Under Item select Message Box from the drop down list, - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click OK then Apply. This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels favorite text in Firefox larger. Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98. HTH Dave On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in the URL location box so I can actually see them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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DUH! -- Ok - I did it -- taking a different route - and then REBOOTING I went to control panel clicked on display I was clicking on the sample message box instead of item and scrolling that was my first mistake. then I got to the item made it bigger clicked Ok (may have forgotten to click apply) nothing happened. did it again and made sure I hit apply then I rebooted - that was the key - had to reboot to get it to work. Now it is too big :) :) and of course it made stuff bigger I didnt want to be made bigger, but what the hell - now I can see what I'm typing in the location box anyway! :) Sorry -- I'm jsut brain dead and a basket case thanks guys - you da men ann P. J. Alling wrote: Ann, He knows what he's talking about it works. It will change the text size on all the controls that widows thinks are part of a message box, which includes all of the folders window, the list of messages, the text under the icons in the icon bar, etc., but it does work. Ann Sanfedele wrote: David - I have large type all over the place - differently set overall , in Netscape and in Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just right but nothing I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the http: stuff in it that is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it won't enlarge. and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take me to the page that the URL refers to :) I'll try your suggestion when I get XP. ann David Savage wrote: Give this a try: - Right Click on your desktop and select Properties, - Click on the Appearance tab, - Click on the Advanced tab, - Under Item select Message Box from the drop down list, - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click OK then Apply. This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels favorite text in Firefox larger. Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98. HTH Dave On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in the URL location box so I can actually see them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 08:36:24AM +0100, Cotty wrote: Mark, if I were you I would heavily consider Avid software . . . Ah, Avid. Probably my biggest missed opportunity. I was working at Apollo with Bill Warner when he dreamed up the idea of Avid; in fact I wrote the proof-of-concept demo programs he used to show potential investors that it was possible to do video editing on a digital platform. I could have left with him, and been CTO of the company. I declined, and instead he took one of our other colleagues. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob Shell wrote: I'm writing a book right now about digital video. We did an informal survey of working video shooters/editors and it seems that among the high-end users it's a shootout between FCP and Premiere, with far more using FCP. This is surprising to me since Avid not only offers theirs for both Windows and Mac (FCP is Mac only, Premiere is Windows only), but Avid also has a free version with most of the features you would need. It's available for both platforms. You can download the free Avid video editor at: http://www.avid.com/freedv/ Wow. Thanks for that info! I looked at the Avid web site and found it very poorly organized. There are also some good tutorials free on their site. To me this is damned smart marketing. The free version does most things, but if you want to have all of the pro features and tech support you have to upgrade to one of their two app packages. It does seem like smart marketing. But so does Adobe's policy of offering package deals to colleges and universities at offer you can't refuse prices. Especially now that Adobe has borged Macromedia. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean I may not be using the correct buzz word for the area I thought it was simply called the location box. Pressing Control Print Screen at the same time will copy the screen image to the clipboard, which can then be pasted into a new canvas n photoshop. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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A lot of the pro editors who work on major motion pictures and big dollar television commercials use Avid. But the high-end Avid system includes some hardware as well as the software. I think it's available for Mac or PC. Premiere used to be available for Mac. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 30, 2006, at 8:12 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: That's true in advertising post production as well. I can't recall ever seeing anyone using Preemiere. It used to be all Avid, but now you see a lot of editors using FCP. I'm writing a book right now about digital video. We did an informal survey of working video shooters/editors and it seems that among the high-end users it's a shootout between FCP and Premiere, with far more using FCP. This is surprising to me since Avid not only offers theirs for both Windows and Mac (FCP is Mac only, Premiere is Windows only), but Avid also has a free version with most of the features you would need. It's available for both platforms. You can download the free Avid video editor at: http://www.avid.com/freedv/ There are also some good tutorials free on their site. To me this is damned smart marketing. The free version does most things, but if you want to have all of the pro features and tech support you have to upgrade to one of their two app packages. BTW, after our survey we're leaning the book toward FCP and Mac, although we will be including Premiere, Avid, and a few others just to be fair. Bob Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities. Truth isn't. -- Mark Twain -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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You did miss on that one:-). But haven't we all taken the wrong fork at times? I remember the first time I edited with an Avid operator. It was at First Edition in New York, probably around 1987, although I'm not sure of the date. Those pixels were big! But it sure made the process faster than it was when working on a KEM or Movieola. On the old machines, we'd edit with the film, so we had strips hanging all over the room. Sometimes after a ten hour session in the edit room, the editor could get really testy when his assistant couldn't find the piece that started with the red car and ended with the lady smiling:-). Cutting cellulose was no fun. Paul On Sep 30, 2006, at 2:22 PM, John Francis wrote: On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 08:36:24AM +0100, Cotty wrote: Mark, if I were you I would heavily consider Avid software . . . Ah, Avid. Probably my biggest missed opportunity. I was working at Apollo with Bill Warner when he dreamed up the idea of Avid; in fact I wrote the proof-of-concept demo programs he used to show potential investors that it was possible to do video editing on a digital platform. I could have left with him, and been CTO of the company. I declined, and instead he took one of our other colleagues. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean I may not be using the correct buzz word for the area I thought it was simply called the location box. Pressing Control Print Screen at the same time will copy the screen image to the clipboard, which can then be pasted into a new canvas n photoshop. William Robb now THAT IS useful info. I did finally make it work as David pointed out after rebooting but it still balked at doing it for NEtscape. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean You can do a screen grab. I'm a Mac user, but someone can tell you how to do it on Windows. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob Shell wrote: On Sep 30, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean You can do a screen grab. I'm a Mac user, but someone can tell you how to do it on Windows. Bob Wheatfield did tell me, just a few emails ago :) Problem partly solved -- I did find out how to fix it for Firefox but it didn't do it in Netscape. sigh ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Sep 30, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Problem partly solved -- I did find out how to fix it for Firefox but it didn't do it in Netscape. You have Firefox and you care about Netscape??? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 30/9/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: We did an informal survey of working video shooters/editors and it seems that among the high-end users it's a shootout between FCP and Premiere, with far more using FCP Which country (ies) Bob? -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 30/9/06, Bob Shell, discombobulated, unleashed: BTW, after our survey we're leaning the book toward FCP and Mac, although we will be including Premiere, Avid, and a few others just to be fair. FYI I got this book: http://tinyurl.com/pe7r6 and it gave me everything I needed to know to get me off the blocks... HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann, you're a very bad girl. Now go wash out your mind with soap. Ann Sanfedele wrote: Cotty wrote: On 29/9/06, Adam Maas, discombobulated, unleashed: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. Ann will of course be playing Box Brownie Marauder and Kung Fu Kamera so this function is useful ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ har! I don't think you guys even want to know what i thought an XBOX was :) ann -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann, I just tried it on my Win98se box and it works, (If I make the font too large it makes everything look fugley though). I'll take you through it step by step. 1.) Right click on your desktop and select properties from the context menu. 2.) On the display properties dialog select the appearance tab. (you probably got this far without a problem but I'm just making sure). In the appearance tab there are a representation of a bunch of windowz and below that input boxes. 3. Click on Message Text in the message box example. The Font Size and Color controls should become active. 4.) Select the size you want. (Default is 8pts I chose 14 and it made the information in the mozilla address locator huge.) 5.) Press the Apply button and check to make sure it's what you're looking for. 6.) Close the dialog by pressing OK. otherwise go back to step 4. If you don't select the Message Box-Message Text it won't change the part of the UI you want to effect. Ann Sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Ann, He knows what he's talking about it works. It will change the text size on all the controls that widows thinks are part of a message box, which includes all of the folders window, the list of messages, the text under the icons in the icon bar, etc., but it does work. PEter - the thing I want to enlarge is the text within the location box... every thing else on my computer has been enlarged... but no matter what program I'm in, the stuff that is , for want of a better word, underneath stays the same. I did try what he suggested - it simply didn't work. IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean I may not be using the correct buzz word for the area I thought it was simply called the location box. I have to get out of here and escape from technology for a while now. It really has got me down. ann Ann Sanfedele wrote: David - I have large type all over the place - differently set overall , in Netscape and in Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just right but nothing I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the http: stuff in it that is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it won't enlarge. and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take me to the page that the URL refers to :) I'll try your suggestion when I get XP. ann David Savage wrote: Give this a try: - Right Click on your desktop and select Properties, - Click on the Appearance tab, - Click on the Advanced tab, - Under Item select Message Box from the drop down list, - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click OK then Apply. This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels favorite text in Firefox larger. Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98. HTH Dave On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in the URL location box so I can actually see them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Hi, PEter -- I did it - hours ago - and sent reply to list, you and David It works in Firefox - It doesn't in Netscape 4.6 I had done all that stuff years ago except I didn't know the location box was a kind of message box I guess. WHen I first got the computer I went through all the display boxes changing colors and all the sounds changing some waves to an owl sound and turning off lots of them... removing tons of helpful things from MS word - etc and changing colors to eliminate all white backgrounds. I always go to the control panel for stuff like that - never occured to me to consider properties of the desktop. THe other thing I cant do - well - don't WANT to do, that people find weird is that I always work with only one window open at a time at full screen... Though I used split screens in Kedit in the old days when I had to to copy pieces of a program from one file to another. I've finally got into dragging and dropping files from a directory into the Nero burning window. I'm chiling out tonight watching movies on tv - just finished watching OUR MAN IN HAVANA on TCM - One of my favorite Guiness films. But I've only seen it about ten times and not in the last few years. ann P. J. Alling wrote: Ann, I just tried it on my Win98se box and it works, (If I make the font too large it makes everything look fugley though). I'll take you through it step by step. 1.) Right click on your desktop and select properties from the context menu. 2.) On the display properties dialog select the appearance tab. (you probably got this far without a problem but I'm just making sure). In the appearance tab there are a representation of a bunch of windowz and below that input boxes. 3. Click on Message Text in the message box example. The Font Size and Color controls should become active. 4.) Select the size you want. (Default is 8pts I chose 14 and it made the information in the mozilla address locator huge.) 5.) Press the Apply button and check to make sure it's what you're looking for. 6.) Close the dialog by pressing OK. otherwise go back to step 4. If you don't select the Message Box-Message Text it won't change the part of the UI you want to effect. Ann Sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Ann, He knows what he's talking about it works. It will change the text size on all the controls that widows thinks are part of a message box, which includes all of the folders window, the list of messages, the text under the icons in the icon bar, etc., but it does work. PEter - the thing I want to enlarge is the text within the location box... every thing else on my computer has been enlarged... but no matter what program I'm in, the stuff that is , for want of a better word, underneath stays the same. I did try what he suggested - it simply didn't work. IF i were able to attach my camera to the computer I'd photo what I mean I may not be using the correct buzz word for the area I thought it was simply called the location box. I have to get out of here and escape from technology for a while now. It really has got me down. ann Ann Sanfedele wrote: David - I have large type all over the place - differently set overall , in Netscape and in Firefox... in Word, in Photoshop all those are set just right but nothing I tried ever enlarged the type in the little box with the http: stuff in it that is on the tool bar, no matter which browser I'm using, it won't enlarge. and, of course, if I click on that area all it does is take me to the page that the URL refers to :) I'll try your suggestion when I get XP. ann David Savage wrote: Give this a try: - Right Click on your desktop and select Properties, - Click on the Appearance tab, - Click on the Advanced tab, - Under Item select Message Box from the drop down list, - Under font size change it to one your more comfortable with, click OK then Apply. This will make your URL bar text, as well as the browser tab labels favorite text in Firefox larger. Now I'm using Windows XP x64 so I don't know if this is valid for Win98. HTH Dave On 9/30/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have never figured out a way to enlarge the fonts in the URL location box so I can actually see them. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
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--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. -- Cheers, Cotty Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN I just spent a bunch of money on a beautiful new Mac (my first) but even I thought that was hillarious... -Brendan __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 10/1/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. -- Cheers, Cotty Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN I just spent a bunch of money on a beautiful new Mac (my first) but even I thought that was hillarious... -Brendan Ha! I think that calls for: http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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LOL ;-] -Brendan --- David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/1/06, Brendan MacRae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/9/06, Ann Sanfedele, discombobulated, unleashed: Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. -- Cheers, Cotty Apple has issued a recall on several models of Mac laptops because the battery can overheat and catch fire. Experts say a Mac fire is just like a PC fire, except it's more hip and condescending. --CONAN O'BRIEN I just spent a bunch of money on a beautiful new Mac (my first) but even I thought that was hillarious... -Brendan Ha! I think that calls for: http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/images/iProduct.gif Dave ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz - Good deal, Ann. Just root around in the Dell site to find out how to de-crapify it of all the bloatware and advertising that Dell will load on it. But otherwise, Dell offers amazing performance for the money. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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May the farce be with you. :-) Dave Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine and pet photography, York and Durham Region. www.caughtinmotion.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Get more RAM, at least another 512MB. It's cheap. Rick --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann Sanfedele wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann Similar to my Compaq, which is the same spec, but with plain DDR RAM. I'd suggest getting an upgrade to 1GB of RAM at some point, but other than that I expect you'll like it. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I'm not a big fan of DELLs when they get old, but when they're new they're as good as anybody else's. Good luck with the old machine. Ann Sanfedele wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Just got one muself less than a month ago. Inspiron 505 with 80 gig HD and 1 gig Ram with Intel Centrino Duo processor Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann Sanfedele wrote: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... When you get your new Dell have your young friend come over and set it up for you (if possible). The first thing to do is wipe the hard drive completely and re-install the Operating System. This will get rid of all the extra crap Dell throws on there. Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann Sanfedele wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? I hope that's the last sighh you have to utter over this Dell! They are not universally loved, but as one of our members said, So long as they're new, they will perform up with the rest of the more expensive ones, and that they will. I wish you lots of luck with your purchase. DO get the extra (extended) insurance with it. My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann I sure hope he finds it's a minor problem... ;-) Get back after he 'fixes' it! keith -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Dave -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Dave Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. I use AVG myself, but Avast is pretty decent I hear. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mine came with a 3 year subscription to P-Cillin Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 2:31 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Ann Sanfedele wrote: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... When you get your new Dell have your young friend come over and set it up for you (if possible). The first thing to do is wipe the hard drive completely and re-install the Operating System. This will get rid of all the extra crap Dell throws on there. Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. The network guy who run the web hosting company I use swears by the Avast software and *hates* Norton. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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1:31 PM -0400 9/29/06, Ann Sanfedele wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? It's not a Mac. -- Steve Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] • http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I think you mentioned it was just an internet machine so I'm sure whatever it is will be fine for that. The only thing I would do differently is to go through fatwallet.com to get the 3% cash back. Good luck on the USB situation. On 9/29/06, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 11:15:47AM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Apart from the RAM (I recently upgraded my notebook from 512MB to the 1GB maximum for this model) I don't see anything to prevent it being useful for at least five (and more likely ten) years. We're well past the days when last year's machine was only useful as a doorstop - in fact both my notebook and our main home machine are over three years old, and are still perfectly usable (even with 'only' a 400MHz DDR memory subsystem). Only one internal hardrive isn't really much of an issue, either - for all but the most demanding tasks external USB2 or firewire drives are fine. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/29/06, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get more RAM, at least another 512MB. It's cheap. this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz +1 on the RAM. 512 more megs should only be $75 or so more from Dell. Photoshop is MUCH happier in a gig of RAM than in only 512 megs. Otherwise, it looks like a decent machine that'll do what you need to do. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Dave Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. They seemed to have left out a tool i needed to upload to remove the 2001 properly. I can walk faster than nav.:-) Dave I use AVG myself, but Avast is pretty decent I hear. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine and pet photography, York and Durham Region. www.caughtinmotion.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy with. Prior to going cable, the modem went out. Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service person with a new modem at my door the next day. Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp upgrade including curves. Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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D Brooks wrote: Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Adam Maas wrote: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on the screen - which, alas, may not be possible. I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. what is an XBOX? ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... When you get your new Dell have your young friend come over and set it up for you (if possible). The first thing to do is wipe the hard drive completely and re-install the Operating System. This will get rid of all the extra crap Dell throws on there. Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 Thanks, Mark! Now if my printer were working I'd print this out in very large print and hang it on the fridge :) young friend still not over here - he is waiting at home for a package. I will have the machine set up before I connect to the web. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel From what the saleslady told me I'm getting a decidedly stripped down version. which is what I want. What I wrote below is straight off the order form - that pretty much says what I'm getting I'm keeping the old bus too ann Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bill Owens wrote: Just got one muself less than a month ago. Inspiron 505 with 80 gig HD and 1 gig Ram with Intel Centrino Duo processor Bill I should have said 1 gig ram, I guess. I take it you like yours? ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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D Brooks wrote: May the farce be with you. :-) Dave ACK! ann Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine and pet photography, York and Durham Region. www.caughtinmotion.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mark Roberts wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. The network guy who run the web hosting company I use swears by the Avast software and *hates* Norton. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 I have Norton - but old NOrton - I can just slap that on the pc and go on line and get the updates, yes? I loved Norton nav in Dos and still use it to find some stuff wondoze doesnt like me to know I have ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: D Brooks wrote: Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. This of course, if one knows how to do this. I have never done the full delete c route, but i will quess its not overly difficult, keeping in mind my 10 thumbs.:-) Dave -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net Equine Photography in York Region -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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If you can find the means to do it, upgrading the ram would be most worthwhile. The operating system and background processes will eat into that 512mb of ram leaving very little for your programs. I _think_ Windows eats about 387mb of ram - could be mistaken though, Shel [Original Message] From: Ann Sanfedele From what the saleslady told me I'm getting a decidedly stripped down version. which is what I want. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann Sanfedele wrote: Adam Maas wrote: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on the screen - which, alas, may not be possible. I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. what is an XBOX? ann An XBox is a video game system from Microsoft. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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So far, I'm extremely pleased with it. Looking forward to doing more work with Elements 5.0. Probably be able to tomorrow after tonight's football half-time show. I'll shoot in RAW to make it easier to deal with possibly not so decent lighting Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:48 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Bill Owens wrote: Just got one muself less than a month ago. Inspiron 505 with 80 gig HD and 1 gig Ram with Intel Centrino Duo processor Bill I should have said 1 gig ram, I guess. I take it you like yours? ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 1:31 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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But MCE does have a cool slide show. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 3:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Adam Maas wrote: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on the screen - which, alas, may not be possible. I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. what is an XBOX? ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann, That machine should alright for ya. I would recommend at least a total of a gig of RAM, however. I just got the even lower end B110 machine but with a faster processor and 1 gig of ram. It's working just fine. Photoshop CS2 is OK on this model, but I only have it loaded as a backup to my new Mac. I've never been able to completely break a Dell, and this is my third. Make sure to have a firewall installed along with a good antivirus program. -Brendan --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/29/06 3:45 PM, Mark Roberts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D Brooks wrote: Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. Sounds way too complicated to me. Buy a Mac, plug it and play it away! :-). Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Adam Maas wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: Adam Maas wrote: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on the screen - which, alas, may not be possible. I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. what is an XBOX? ann THere are NO games permitted on my machines though I link ot the internet scrabble club ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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How can you do a clean install w/o an OS CD Bill Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 l.ne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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K.Takeshita wrote: Sounds way too complicated to me. Buy a Mac, plug it and play it away! :-). Windows is pretty much the same way these days if you buy from a company that doesn't include free extras like Dell. I guess even Dell works well for most people, judging by their success, but I really prefer to build my own machine so I can choose my own components and configure everything just the way I want it. Not the path for non-geeks, I suppose :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jack Davis wrote: Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy with. Prior to going cable, the modem went out. Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service person with a new modem at my door the next day. Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp upgrade including curves. Jack I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Brendan MacRae wrote: Ann, That machine should alright for ya. I would recommend at least a total of a gig of RAM, however. Well too late now - or I can add on later... I have no problems with 512 ram on the OLD machine when working in photoshop elements - When I work in photoshop nothing else is open (at least nothing that I'm aware of :) :) ann I just got the even lower end B110 machine but with a faster processor and 1 gig of ram. It's working just fine. Photoshop CS2 is OK on this model, but I only have it loaded as a backup to my new Mac. I've never been able to completely break a Dell, and this is my third. Make sure to have a firewall installed along with a good antivirus program. -Brendan --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Personally, I prefer using levels over curves. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ann Sanfedele Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 4:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Jack Davis wrote: Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy with. Prior to going cable, the modem went out. Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service person with a new modem at my door the next day. Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp upgrade including curves. Jack I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ann, Double the MB! Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... When you get your new Dell have your young friend come over and set it up for you (if possible). The first thing to do is wipe the hard drive completely and re-install the Operating System. This will get rid of all the extra crap Dell throws on there. Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 Thanks, Mark! Now if my printer were working I'd print this out in very large print and hang it on the fridge :) young friend still not over here - he is waiting at home for a package. I will have the machine set up before I connect to the web. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Yeah, just add it on later...no biggie. Anyway, all the best of luck with it. -Brendan --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: Ann, That machine should alright for ya. I would recommend at least a total of a gig of RAM, however. Well too late now - or I can add on later... I have no problems with 512 ram on the OLD machine when working in photoshop elements - When I work in photoshop nothing else is open (at least nothing that I'm aware of :) :) ann I just got the even lower end B110 machine but with a faster processor and 1 gig of ram. It's working just fine. Photoshop CS2 is OK on this model, but I only have it loaded as a backup to my new Mac. I've never been able to completely break a Dell, and this is my third. Make sure to have a firewall installed along with a good antivirus program. -Brendan --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I get the impression Dell computers aren't held in high regard? Feroze Mark Roberts wrote: D Brooks wrote: Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feroze Sent: 29 September 2006 21:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL I get the impression Dell computers aren't held in high regard? Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Adam Maas wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Dave Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. I use AVG myself, but Avast is pretty decent I hear. I second the AVG. http://www.grisoft.com You might have to look hard for the freeware. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bill Owens wrote: How can you do a clean install w/o an OS CD You can't! (You should have received one with your computer, though.) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Understand there is a new Windows Vista operating system either has been or soon will be available. This information from my wife who reads Kim Commando every morning. I might be more curious about it myself if I were setting up a new system. Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas wrote: MCE is identical to XP Home overall but has extra software from MS to make playing video on an attached TV easier, and to allow the PC to interact with an XBox or XBox 360. -Adam What I want is the button to stop anything from moving on the screen - which, alas, may not be possible. I aint gonna watch no videos on it or listen to music. what is an XBOX? ann Shel Belinkoff wrote: Seems like it's a real bottom-of-the line machine with a limited upgrade path. According to what I've read, it only supports one hard drive. 512mb of ram is marginal. Comes with Windows Media Edition - don't know anything much about that but it would seem that you'd be better off with a straight version of WinXP. Dell is usually loaded with crap programs and bloatware - not a good thing. You probably won't get a Windows disk with the machine, which, IMO, is a big failing. What size hard drive are you getting? Do you plan to run Photoshop? Good luck with it, I sincerely hope it will serve you well. I just don't see it as a machine with long-term potential or much in the way of upgrade possibilities. Shel Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I didn't check later posts to see if someone answered this, so I'll touch on it. Curves is a feature that allows the adjusting of color tones. It permits altering highlights, midtones and shadows in each color channel. Useful, for example, in helping correct washed out, over-exposed or underexposed images. I've messed with it a bit and look forward to its helping to salvage my images. Pro FS (CS2) has had this tool for awhile. Jack --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy with. Prior to going cable, the modem went out. Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service person with a new modem at my door the next day. Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp upgrade including curves. Jack I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: D Brooks wrote: Quoting Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David J Brooks wrote: Quoting Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Replace the 30-day trial versions of the stuff they try to foist on you with free and better replacements. Get free antivirus from www.avast.com Is this something you recomend Mark. My NAV 2006 has really slowed my machine down. Norton and Symantec software exists solely to make life difficult. It doesn't work, doesn't uninstall and doesn't let the machine work. Tell me about it. To delete nav 2001 and install 2006, took a weekend. Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. This of course, if one knows how to do this. I have never done the full delete c route, but i will quess its not overly difficult, keeping in mind my 10 thumbs.:-) I've known it happen by accident. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob W wrote: Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it. -- Cheers, Bob Latest models apparently have anti-tamper hardware. You aren't allowed to go inside if you want to retain warranty. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feroze Sent: 29 September 2006 21:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL I get the impression Dell computers aren't held in high regard? Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jack Davis wrote: Understand there is a new Windows Vista operating system either has been or soon will be available. This information from my wife who reads Kim Commando every morning. I might be more curious about it myself if I were setting up a new system. Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all Mac-ish (meaning it's really, really pretty looking). I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP and I've found Win2k very reliable. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP and I've found Win2k very reliable. Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to install on 2000? -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com Shoot more film! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all Mac-ish (meaning it's really, really pretty looking). Uh, that's the problem MS has. They think the main difference with OSX is that OSX is 'pretty'. OSX is not clownish looking as Windows, granted. But its main advantage is usability, not looks. j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Scott Loveless wrote: On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP and I've found Win2k very reliable. Have you figured out how to convince the new Adobe applications to install on 2000? Not Adobe Premiere Pro. Photoshop CS2 is fine. I'm expecting that if I end up teaching a video production course, Premiere Pro is what will push me into getting Windows Vista. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Juan Buhler wrote: On 9/29/06, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all Mac-ish (meaning it's really, really pretty looking). Uh, that's the problem MS has. They think the main difference with OSX is that OSX is 'pretty'. OSX is not clownish looking as Windows, granted. But its main advantage is usability, not looks. Personally, I fine no overall usability difference between the two, and I use both frequently. And I though I do computer tutoring for both platforms, I get equal calls for help across both platforms. Just got a phone call an hour ago from a Mac user who's had something stop working on her system that she needs me to fix this weekend. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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That's probably what makes them go wrong. People mess around without knowing what they're doing, then blame the manufacturer. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike wilson Sent: 29 September 2006 22:03 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL Bob W wrote: Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it. -- Cheers, Bob Latest models apparently have anti-tamper hardware. You aren't allowed to go inside if you want to retain warranty. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob W wrote: That's probably what makes them go wrong. People mess around without knowing what they're doing, then blame the manufacturer. Very true. And not just about computers :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Using XP Home. Sooo much more stable and usable than was ME. Jack --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Understand there is a new Windows Vista operating system either has been or soon will be available. This information from my wife who reads Kim Commando every morning. I might be more curious about it myself if I were setting up a new system. Vista is coming early next year (they say). Don't know if I'm interested in it at this point. Supposedly they're going all Mac-ish (meaning it's really, really pretty looking). I'm still using Windows 2000 because I don't like some things about XP and I've found Win2k very reliable. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Should be on the HD, Bill. You need to burn a copy ASAP. It becomes a nightmare if you have crash and have not done so. Most of those guys act like a hard copy is made of gold. The troubles my friend had with a couple of Sonys was unbelievable. -- graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com http://webpages.charter.net/graywolf Idiot Proof == Expert Proof --- Bill Owens wrote: How can you do a clean install w/o an OS CD Bill Yep. That's why my advice for Dell buyers is to wipe the hard drive immediately upon receiving the machine and reinstall the OS from scratch. You get a nice clean install with which you can do anything you want. -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 l.ne -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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- Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) I've seen pictures of you (albeit from a few years ago), you know what curves are. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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any smoother, Bill, and you'd be French. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Robb Sent: 30 September 2006 00:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL - Original Message - From: Ann Sanfedele Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) I've seen pictures of you (albeit from a few years ago), you know what curves are. WW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:29:41PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: K.Takeshita wrote: Sounds way too complicated to me. Buy a Mac, plug it and play it away! :-). Windows is pretty much the same way these days if you buy from a company that doesn't include free extras like Dell. I guess even Dell works well for most people, judging by their success, but I really prefer to build my own machine so I can choose my own components and configure everything just the way I want it. Not the path for non-geeks, I suppose :) The previous two computers I owned were built that way; find a good motherboard, fit your own choice of CPU, memory, etc., and add peripherals to taste. My last purchase was a built-to-order HP system; with their promotional pricing it was cheaper than doing it myself, and had everything I wanted. Nowadays I'd either go the same route or buy a secondhand box; a friend of mine can find truly excellent deals (such as his latest accquisition; 14 1U IBM eServers, each with 1GB of RAM, built-in SCSI, and with processors ranging from 1GHz P3s to dual Xeons, at an average price of $100 per system). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Jack Davis wrote: I didn't check later posts to see if someone answered this, so I'll touch on it. Curves is a feature that allows the adjusting of color tones. It permits altering highlights, midtones and shadows in each color channel. Useful, for example, in helping correct washed out, over-exposed or underexposed images. I've messed with it a bit and look forward to its helping to salvage my images. Pro FS (CS2) has had this tool for awhile. Jack Hehe - Well as it happens I do this all the time - in elements I click on adjust color and a thumbnails pop up to show previews of adjustments with a sliding scale thingy for amount. It is one of the annoyances of tecno-babble that something as simple as adjusting the hues and tones needs a non-painterly word such as curves I look at the images and fiddle with brightness, saturation, hue, color, etc and slide the levers around until I see what I want sometimes applying into an area I've lassoed or hit with my magic wand, sometimes to the entire image. I don't mean I do it to every image when all the time but I use all these tools - The name curves just doesn't mean anything to me. Or channels. The word 'CURVE' doesn't appear anywhere on my screen when I'm working in elements. thanks for that direct explanation, Jack :) ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack Davis wrote: Good for you, Ann! Have a Pen 4 Dimension 8400 3G that am happy with. Prior to going cable, the modem went out. Took about 20 minutes of listening to elevator music, (probably a common experience regardless of brand) but there was a Dell service person with a new modem at my door the next day. Just downloaded Elements 5 to it a couple days ago. Nice crisp upgrade including curves. Jack I think I really have to ask someone to define CURVES this is a buzz word of the new electro-age I can't wrap my brain around :) ann --- Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sigh - this is what I'm getting Dimension C521,Sempron 3400+(1.80GHz, 256K)311-67171 512MB DDR2 SDRAM at 533MHz It should be here by Oct 5th. Comments on this machine? My young friend is coming over today to help me with the failed usb port situation on the old puter... ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Bob W wrote: Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it. -- Cheers, Bob My understanding is that mine will, too. ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feroze Sent: 29 September 2006 21:23 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: dudes, I'm getting a DELL I get the impression Dell computers aren't held in high regard? Feroze -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: Mine's a Dell, and it's very good. It came loaded with what I asked for, and no more. I've never had any trouble with it. -- Cheers, Bob Latest models apparently have anti-tamper hardware. You aren't allowed to go inside if you want to retain warranty. That's common to the corporate models, I'm pretty sure it's not in the consumer models. It's meant to keep the salesguys from doing someting stupid (or finder them if they did). Makes IS's life easier if they can say 'the computer says you opened it' -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
