Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
You can if you can find her! Nick -Original Message- From: William Robb[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16/02/04 15:29:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net I'm disappointed because I can't get pictures of Gillian Anderson on my *ist D William Robb
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I don't see why not. At 03:28 PM 2/18/04, you wrote: Interesting read. Just a quick question - would Leica screw mount lenses work on the *istD with the PK-M42 and M42-39mm adaptors? That might really sell it to the Leica crowd. Nick. -Original Message- From: Shel Belinkoff[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16/02/04 12:39:07 To: PDML[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT Imagine my surprise when the istD - and our very own Paul Stenquist - got such nice comments on the Leica forum ;-)) Way to go, Paul. Nice leica, too. shel I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
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On 18 Feb 2004 at 17:22, Peter Alling wrote: I don't see why not. Leica screw (or M) lenses are designed to focus on a film plane that is far closer than the K mount to film plane distance. Therefore the no Leica lens would likely be able to operate in a usable focus range. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 18:59:06 -0500, you wrote: Infinity focus may be lost but you could still USE it, Sort of. K-mount lenses fit and work fine on a Nikon D100 using some old Spiratone components. The Spiratone K-mount flange, which accepts the Pentax lenses, is mounted at the front. The flange has a T-mount back, to which a Nikon T-mount adapter is secured, and this clicks right in place on the D100. Matter of fact, any T-mount adapter would work - I have Minolta, Nikon, and there are plenty of others. But this rig adds about 25mm of extension, so is really only useful for very long lenses focused 20' or less, or for macro shots, or other close-ups. -- John Mustarde www.photolin.com
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Hi, that's very impressive. -- Cheers, Bob Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 2:55:51 AM, you wrote: By the way, for those who aren't following this thread on the Leica forum, it's turned into quite a debate on the virtues of Pentax vs. C and N. Marc Williams took the tiff pic of my IIIc and blew it up to 20 x 24 using Fred Miranda's Step Interpolation program for the 1Ds. He ended up with a 243.3 meg file. He posted a slice of the enlargement. It's amazine. The thread is here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT
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You are right of course. I'm confusing my modes g. On Feb 17, 2004, at 1:18 AM, John Francis wrote: One minor quibble: you say, in one post on that thread, that the *ist-D (in manual metering mode with older K/M lenses) will automatically adjust the shutter speed if you change the aperture of the lens, without needing to re-meter. This is, of course, incorrect - there's no way for the camera to even _detect_ that you've changed the aperture.
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Thanks Shel. I always enjoy visiting Marc Williams. He has the biggest toy box in town, and he loves cameras. On Feb 16, 2004, at 7:39 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT Imagine my surprise when the istD - and our very own Paul Stenquist - got such nice comments on the Leica forum ;-)) Way to go, Paul. Nice leica, too. shel
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...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher sensitivity previously used. Sven Zitat von Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT Imagine my surprise when the istD - and our very own Paul Stenquist - got such nice comments on the Leica forum ;-)) Way to go, Paul. Nice leica, too. shel
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On 16 Feb 2004 at 13:51, keller.schaefer wrote: ...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher sensitivity previously used. Sven, It is a pain but it can be read on the rear LCD by pressing the info button when the camera is not in review mode. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Oh, how I feel your pain ... I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good handle on this). But I also have to laugh a bit at this complaint ... it seems that many people want the camera to do even the simplest things for them. It wasn't that long ago that we had to remember our setting as nothing appeared in the viewfinder or in little windows on the camera body. Then the viewfinders became cluttered with lots of information, and now it's expected that small TV screens be included with the new cameras, where all sorts of information can be viewed. I suppose it's progress ... keller.schaefer wrote: ...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher sensitivity previously used. Sven Zitat von Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT
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Every digital camera I've seen requires the pushing of a button to view some setting or change some function or feature set. I suppose it depends on what's important to a particular user which are a pain and which aren't. Rob Studdert wrote: It is a pain but it can be read on the rear LCD by pressing the info button when the camera is not in review mode.
Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
- Original Message - From: keller.schaefer Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net ...and the text confirms one of the real design flaws that this camera has. The set sensitivity is not displayed on the LCD display nor in the finder. As in this case, it happened to me several times that I forgot to reset a higher sensitivity previously used. Gee, we have another thread going right now that relates to this. Re: Do Smarter Cameras make Dumber Photogs? William Robb
Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net Oh, how I feel your pain ... I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good handle on this). But I also have to laugh a bit at this complaint ... it seems that many people want the camera to do even the simplest things for them. It wasn't that long ago that we had to remember our setting as nothing appeared in the viewfinder or in little windows on the camera body. Then the viewfinders became cluttered with lots of information, and now it's expected that small TV screens be included with the new cameras, where all sorts of information can be viewed. I suppose it's progress ... Maybe I just have really low expectations, or perhaps I am easily impressed, I don't know. The lack of instant review histograms doesn't bother me. I've already pushed one button to turn on the stupid little screen, pushing another seems like a small effort. Nor does the lack of instantly available ISO. I can turn a dial as easily as pushing a button. By the time Pentax had everything possible on the LCD to keep everyone happy, there would be so much clutter you wouldn't be able to find what you wanted anyway. I laugh a lot at this sort of complaint. William Robb
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On 16 Feb 2004 at 6:59, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Oh, how I feel your pain ... I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good handle on this). But I also have to laugh a bit at this complaint ... it seems that many people want the camera to do even the simplest things for them. It wasn't that long ago that we had to remember our setting as nothing appeared in the viewfinder or in little windows on the camera body. Well my Leicas either have a film type reminder dial on the door or an ISO selector, my Pentax cameras have a window to the film canister or slot for the end of the film packet and an ISO dial to quickly gaze on. I'm constantly changing the effective ISO when shooting digital and I'd appreciate an always visible ISO reminder display. The only options to check at the moment are operational kludges. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Exactly the point: there's only so much information that can fit easily on those little screens, and only so much information a operator can easily and quickly absorb. So, Pentax decided that this feature or that function would be accessed or viewed in a different manner. Going to another camera, the maker may have chosen other information to be absent from the screen, based on what they perceived was important. I recall a Canon user saying that she was disappointed because she couldn't get reruns of Gilligan's Island on her 10D. William Robb wrote: By the time Pentax had everything possible on the LCD to keep everyone happy, there would be so much clutter you wouldn't be able to find what you wanted anyway. I laugh a lot at this sort of complaint.
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I actually kind of like the fact that I have to turn the knob to see the ISO on my *ist D. I forgot to do it Sunday with my friend from the Leica forum because I wasn't shooting, I was showing him the camera. When I shoot, the ISO is the first thing I consider. Turning the know to see what I set last time out helps make it a conscious decision. For me, it would be easier to forget to consider this important number if no action was required. In any case, it's certainly no incumberance. Paul William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net Oh, how I feel your pain ... I'm no istd expert, far from it, but I do believe there's a way to see the setting. Maybe some with more expertise in such matter will chime in (John or Rob seem to have a good handle on this). But I also have to laugh a bit at this complaint ... it seems that many people want the camera to do even the simplest things for them. It wasn't that long ago that we had to remember our setting as nothing appeared in the viewfinder or in little windows on the camera body. Then the viewfinders became cluttered with lots of information, and now it's expected that small TV screens be included with the new cameras, where all sorts of information can be viewed. I suppose it's progress ... Maybe I just have really low expectations, or perhaps I am easily impressed, I don't know. The lack of instant review histograms doesn't bother me. I've already pushed one button to turn on the stupid little screen, pushing another seems like a small effort. Nor does the lack of instantly available ISO. I can turn a dial as easily as pushing a button. By the time Pentax had everything possible on the LCD to keep everyone happy, there would be so much clutter you wouldn't be able to find what you wanted anyway. I laugh a lot at this sort of complaint. William Robb
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Do you actually use that thing ... iac, you have to remember to change it manually. We shoot differently, I suppose. I rarely change my iso settings. Rob Studdert wrote: Well my Leicas either have a film type reminder dial on the door or an ISO selector, my Pentax cameras have a window to the film canister or slot for the end of the film packet and an ISO dial to quickly gaze on. I'm constantly changing the effective ISO when shooting digital and I'd appreciate an always visible ISO reminder display. The only options to check at the moment are operational kludges.
Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net I recall a Canon user saying that she was disappointed because she couldn't get reruns of Gilligan's Island on her 10D. I'm disappointed because I can't get pictures of Gillian Anderson on my *ist D William Robb
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Hum..? And my Graphic is supposed to be complicated? -- William Robb wrote: The ist D has 21 discreet controls required for operation, some of which are multi function, depending on what menu or other button you have actuated at the same time. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
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But you could if you ever met her. At 10:29 AM 2/16/04, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net I recall a Canon user saying that she was disappointed because she couldn't get reruns of Gilligan's Island on her 10D. I'm disappointed because I can't get pictures of Gillian Anderson on my *ist D William Robb I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: istD Comments on Leica Photo.net
By the way, for those who aren't following this thread on the Leica forum, it's turned into quite a debate on the virtues of Pentax vs. C and N. Marc Williams took the tiff pic of my IIIc and blew it up to 20 x 24 using Fred Miranda's Step Interpolation program for the 1Ds. He ended up with a 243.3 meg file. He posted a slice of the enlargement. It's amazine. The thread is here: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=007PMT One minor quibble: you say, in one post on that thread, that the *ist-D (in manual metering mode with older K/M lenses) will automatically adjust the shutter speed if you change the aperture of the lens, without needing to re-meter. This is, of course, incorrect - there's no way for the camera to even _detect_ that you've changed the aperture.
