Re: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-07 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
Joseph Tainter a écrit:

For this class of lens it is quite sharp plus a lot of fun. I have 
enjoyed mine much. It is sharper than Pentax's F 17-28 fisheys.
A mine friend has a Zenitar (for Nikon), and I have a K 4/17mm fish eye.
Both seems near similar quality.
Michel





Re: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-06 Thread Joseph Tainter
For this class of lens it is quite sharp plus a lot of fun. I have 
enjoyed mine much. It is sharper than Pentax's F 17-28 fisheys.

JOe



Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi Marnie,

The Zenitar is a great lens, not only for the price. It does
show a wonderful color rendition and a very good sharpness (when
stopped down, of course). The flare control is *almost* on the
same league of a SMC lens. Well built, although you may
experience sample variations. When I travel I always have it in
the bag, just in case. I regret a lot when I forget to bring it
with me. 
Think that when I lost almost all my equipment (stolen, eight
years ago) the first lens after the 50mm and 100mm I wanted to
buy again was the Zenitar.
About the distorsion, a fish eye is simply a lens not corrected
wrt this... Every full frame fish eye of the same FL will show
more or less the same distorsion. 
Hope this helps.

Ciao,

Gianfranco


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm).
Screwmount, it would 
 work on my Canon Elan 7e (with the adapter that I already got
for the Super 
 Tak 35mm 3.5). Evidentially higher priced/better fish eyes
have a lot less 
 distortion, etc., etc.
 
 But it might be fun to play around with.
 
 Complete waste of time or not?
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)


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Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Eactivist
Hope this helps.

Ciao,

Gianfranco

Yup. Sure does.

Thx!, Marnie aka Doe :-)



Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread William Robb

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From:
Subject: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?


 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm). Screwmount, it
would
 work on my Canon Elan 7e (with the adapter that I already got for the
Super
 Tak 35mm 3.5). Evidentially higher priced/better fish eyes have a lot less
 distortion, etc., etc.

 But it might be fun to play around with.

 Complete waste of time or not?

I had one for a while. I found it to be quite sharp, and surprisingly, not
overly flarey. I thought the colour rendition was a bit garish, it might fit
in well with Canon lenses in this regard.
I found a good deal on a Super Takumar 17mm fisheye, and ended up selling
the Zenitar to a fellow list member.

William Robb



Re: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Doug Franklin
Hi Marnie,

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 01:12:49 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm). [...]
 Complete waste of time or not?

I have one and I've been very happy with the prints I get from it.  It
does have a lot of distortion, but it's a fisheye so I expected that. 
Actually, some shots it's not really noticable and others it definitely
is.  Often I use it to get _really_ close to large (non-macro)
subjects.  Even at half a foot distance it still covers a lot of scene.
 My big problem has been keeping my feet and knuckles out of the shots.
 Finish is not exceptional but it seems robust as a tank.  If you get
it direct you can save some money.  It's been in the Sovietsky
catalog for almost $200 but I got mine, new, a couple of years ago from
ebay user kievcamera for around $125.

TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ




Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Bill Owens
It is definitely a fun lens, and often quite useful. I got mine to use with
the MZ-S, and yes, there is considerable distortion, but I expected that.
For landscape shots without a lot of foreground detail, the distortion is
barely visible.  On the *ist D, the distortion is tamed considerably since
I'm only using the central portion of the image.

Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:12 AM
Subject: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?


 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm). Screwmount, it
would
 work on my Canon Elan 7e (with the adapter that I already got for the
Super
 Tak 35mm 3.5). Evidentially higher priced/better fish eyes have a lot less
 distortion, etc., etc.

 But it might be fun to play around with.

 Complete waste of time or not?

 Marnie aka Doe :-)






Re: Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread scars

Hi!
I have one and love it..
here are some sample pics
http://photography.desertrose.de/div/gallery1.html
the snowy one, the one with the banana trees, the two with the parking
house and the the bw on and the one with the donkey... the scans are a
bit poor, my scanner is not so good, the prints are sharp... ^_^
I use it with Pentax MX and ME... bought new for about 107$ at ebay
direct from Moskau...
hope this helps..
bye Katrin

Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am 05.11.2003, 15:19:36:
 It is definitely a fun lens, and often quite useful. I got mine to use with
 the MZ-S, and yes, there is considerable distortion, but I expected that.
 For landscape shots without a lot of foreground detail, the distortion is
 barely visible.  On the *ist D, the distortion is tamed considerably since
 I'm only using the central portion of the image.
 
 Bill
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 1:12 AM
 Subject: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?
 
 
  I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm). Screwmount, it
 would
  work on my Canon Elan 7e (with the adapter that I already got for the
 Super
  Tak 35mm 3.5). Evidentially higher priced/better fish eyes have a lot less
  distortion, etc., etc.
 
  But it might be fun to play around with.
 
  Complete waste of time or not?
 
  Marnie aka Doe :-)
 
 



Re: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm).
 Complete waste of time or not?

Hi,

I have owned the Zenitar (K-mount) and it's a good lens for the money, 
if you are able to get it for a good price, of course, and get one 
that has a good build quality.

However, the lens is a very poor cousin to the K 15/3.5 and the K 
18/3.5 wrt image quality, color rendition, and sharpness.  The colors 
on the examnple I had were garish, almost cartoon-like, by comparison, 
although you could fix it in Photoshop LOL and the results are OK 
for BW.

I don't think I'd own another now that I have the 18/3.5 to use in its 
stead, but it was a fun lens to play around with, and a good 
introduction to the super-wide genrre.

Kind regards,

Tyrone



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Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Chris Brogden
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003, William Robb wrote:

 I had one for a while. I found it to be quite sharp, and surprisingly,
 not overly flarey. I thought the colour rendition was a bit garish, it
 might fit in well with Canon lenses in this regard. I found a good deal
 on a Super Takumar 17mm fisheye, and ended up selling the Zenitar to a
 fellow list member.

And I've been happy with it.  Build quality is good, though I always find
it a bit disconcerting when the front part of the barrel, complete with
lens group(s), can screw off.  A lot of Pentax 200/4s can do that.  I
don't mind the optical quality... it's good enough for anything I'd use a
fisheye on a 35mm camera for.

chris



Re: OT: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread mike wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've been think about getting a Zenitar fish eye (16mm). Screwmount, it would
 work on my Canon Elan 7e (with the adapter that I already got for the Super
 Tak 35mm 3.5). Evidentially higher priced/better fish eyes have a lot less
 distortion, etc., etc.
 
 But it might be fun to play around with.
 
 Complete waste of time or not?
 
Do it.  Do it now.  Best value new (in production) lens you will ever
buy.

mike



Re: Zenitar Fish Eye?

2003-11-05 Thread Katrin
On 5 Nov 2003 at 13:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Hey, Katrin, I remember those banana trees! Kewl shot.
thanks ^_^
I know that I posted them some time ago, but since you asked about 
the zenitar...
I didn't have much time recently, but I hope I find the time to give 
the zenitar a bit excersise this weekend... ^_^
bye Katrin


 
 Thanks everyone for the input.
 
 Marnie aka Doe :-)
 

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