Re: PESO
On 1/12/04, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/rolleireindeer.jpg OK, it's a horrible waste of resources, and is a shamelessly bad snapshot. However, that is a 110 pound Rottweiler in the picture Your dog is plotting its revenge even as we write Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO - Coming in for a landing
On 1/12/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: They (mock mag covers) were getting a bit tiresome for a bit (but not the one of Mark LOL just thinking of that one!). And, of course, Cormorant Times is a classic that will likely never be eclipsed. Quit while yer ahead, says I. My thoughts exactly. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
On 1/12/04, Juey Chong Ong, discombobulated, unleashed: Would it work if you cover the windows with sheets of warming filters? Yes that is done in movie-making but carrying those size gels is expensive and I'm only shooting news ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: Sunset in Santa Monica
On 1/12/04, Paul Stenquist, discombobulated, unleashed: From the park above the palisades just off Ocean and Broadway. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2926176size=lg I can hear the Beach Boys now :-) Nice catch. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: survey
On 1/12/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: keep Cotty from guzzling all the beer. I don't think s Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: Some really neat northern lights photos
Hi, My understanding is that Iceland is about the most inaptly named country in the world. Greenland is perhaps a bit less aptly named they are both evidence of climate change since they were named. -- Cheers, Bob
RE: Epson Printer (Sylus Photo)
Thanks, Juey. I guess that's what I should do! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Juey Chong Ong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. december 2004 05:41 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Epson Printer (Sylus Photo) I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo EX, which was the wide-carriage version of the Stylus Photo. I never had any problems pulling an ink cartridge out of it and putting it back, especially since it used the dumb cartridges (the ones without a chip). I eventually sent it back to Epson Recycling and got a $5 coupon from Epson for my efforts. --jc On Dec 1, 2004, at 10:19 PM, Jens Bladt wrote: Epson Stylus Photo, that's all. No other names or numbers. It's so old, it's not on the support list anymore. The newest driver is for Windows 98. Even when it was new, some retailers didn't know about it. It was actually the top model at one stage. I admit to not having used it much. When I got it, photo realistic paper was app. 1,25 USD for every A4 sheet. One set of ink cartrigdes was almost 100 USD. So, most of the time it was just sitting on the desk and occasionally used for BW prints. A shame, really. Now it's useless. It represents the worst 700 USD I ever spent. This money would have been better spent on a one week holiday in Greece! Or a used MZ-S with a battery grip! Or ... Maybe I will consider getting a Canon.
Re: Some really neat northern lights photos
fra: Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, My understanding is that Iceland is about the most inaptly named country in the world. Greenland is perhaps a bit less aptly named they are both evidence of climate change since they were named. I always thought that Greenland was an early example of false advertizing in the attempt to make people move there :-) But seriously, at the right time of the year parts of Greenland can still be very green. The vegetation has to make the most of the short season. Most of the trees are gone both on Greenland and Iceland, but that was because the vikings used them without planting new ones. DagT
RE: Epson Printer (Stylus Photo)
Can anyone please explain what clogging means? Thanks Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. december 2004 00:42 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Epson Printer (Stylus Photo) My Epson 2200 is an absolute joy. It uses seven inks, five colors plus black and light black. The cartridges can be replaced individually. And, as with the Canon, I can pop a cartridge out and reinsert it to try for another print. It's so quiet, I sometimes have to walk right up to it to make sure it's printing. Prior to this printer I had an Epson 1200 Stylus Photo. Never had a problem with that printer either, although the 2200 is definitely superior in terms of the way it renders shadows and gradations of color. My next printer will be the Epson that replaces the 2200. Paul On Dec 1, 2004, at 6:31 PM, Cotty wrote: On 1/12/04, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I guess you'll just have to give in, and support Canon in their drive to take over the entire photography universe. It helps that they are giving people what they want. I have a Canon S9000. It takes 6 individual ink tanks (black plus five colours), and if the low ink warning appears, I open the lid, the head slides out, I retrieve the specified tank, and if I think it could still do a couple of prints yet, I slot it back in and carry on. I bought it used and at three years old the head was clogging a bit, so I bought a brand new head for about 50 GBP (just under 100 USD) and popped it into the head assembly - very quick and my printer has a new leas of life. It is very fast, very quiet and the results continually amaze me. I had a Stylus Photo EX before the S9000, and the Epson was noisy and slow, and the head clogged continually if inactive for more than a week at a time. I would not consider another Epson at this time. HTH Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: December PUG is open
Uh, mea maxima culpa indeed. I stopped updating the directory when the komkon server died and I lost access to history galleries (the tool that generates the directory is a post process approach - it needs the gallery to be published and available for parsing). I just checked and seeing that the komkon resurrected I'll take a couple of hours and update the directory. I'll let you know when it's available. Servus, Alin AvK wrote: A No because Alin stopped to make these pages. A I hope that we will go online with the new PUG sometime next year, than you A will get all the archives you want. A Adelheid Than you very much for another great job with the PUG! Adelheid v. K. wrote: The archives seem to be working on http://pug.komkon.org/general/PugDir.html , at least through Jan. 04. A few weeks ago I was trying to complile a list of all the shots I've submitted to the PUG, and was unable to find a list for most of this year. Is there anyplace that might be available, at least the names, if not all the photos? Dan M Hi folks, The DEcember PUG is available on my website AND on the komkon server. This means: The archives are NOT!!! working on both pages. At least not for the last 5 months. But you have at least a link to Josteins page and you can look at the pictures of July. I don't have much space on my site, so only the current month and last month is available! No archives as such. You can have a look at the previous PUGs via the pastgalleries page on the komkon server. Thanks to Igor to bring the server back. So now the issue of the URL It will change each month at present it is: http://www.kirschten.de/PUG/04dec and http://pug.komkon.org
Re: OT Sharpening for D-Lab 2 Prints
Rob, I use a D-Lab 2 and the prints I get are quite sharp and crisp (printed as is, no changes from the operators, minimal USM from my part - I much dislike garrish sharpening of most digital prints nowadays). Except that once it happened that I received prints obviously not as sharp as I sent. Looking closer it became apparent that red and blue channels were grossly mis-registered. You may want to closely inspect your prints for that. Servus, Alin Rob wrote: RS Has anyone here done any experiments to determine the optimum sharpening to RS apply to image files destined to print on a D-Lab 2? I just received a 12x8 D- RS Lab 2 test print back and details appear far less acute than a print from the RS same file made on a relatively inexpensive Epson ink jet at A4 :-( RS TIA, \
Re[2]: OT Sharpening for D-Lab 2 Prints
Strange, I thought there is nothing to focus about lasers, after all those are in-phase, rectilinear beams with extremely low dispersion!? Could it be the so called focus procedure is rather an alignment process to insure the three laser spots overlap? Servus, Alin Butch wrote: BB There is also the possibility that the focus on the d-lab is off a touch. I BB never worked with a d-lab, but the frontiers have a routine that focuses the BB 3 lasers, so I assume the same is true with the agfa. Try giving them a BB negative you know is in sharp focus and see how the result comes out. It is BB also possible that they don't realize that their machine has drifted out of BB focus. That happened to me at Eckerds. My analog Fuji was a touch soft. I BB didn't notice until a new customer brought in a large order, complained BB that it was soft, took a couple frame to be printed at a competitor and BB brought them back. I then got to adjust focus on the machine without the BB proper focus neg. Luckily I have a masters in seat of the pants. :) It is BB also possible that they keep their focus slightly soft to minimize dust BB spots. An old pro lab I used to use did that. BB Butch
Re: OT Sharpening for D-Lab 2 Prints
Alin Flaider wrote: Strange, I thought there is nothing to focus about lasers, after all those are in-phase, rectilinear beams with extremely low dispersion!? Could it be the so called focus procedure is rather an alignment process to insure the three laser spots overlap? It's unlikely that the width of the beam at its source is going to be exactly the same size as the desired spot size on the paper. Hence focussing is required to change the size. S
Changing metering modes in Ds?
Hi, The Ds has a great amount of interesting features but its simplicity (few wheels and buttons) can make the access to some of these features too complicated to be really usable. Being my current AF camera a MZ-5n, that has a dedicated and very convenient commandment to change between spot, multi-zone and CW metering mode, I am worried about how does it works in the Ds and how convenient it is to use 'in the field' (I use it a lot in the 5n). So, have any of you tried this in a Ds? Thanks and regards, Jaume __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: PESO: Sunset in Santa Monica
Thanks to all who commented. I went out specifically because it was hazy. I've shot that sunset under clear skies any number of times, so I wanted something with more atmosphere. I think the sharp silhouettes in the foreground contrast with the hazy background. In any case, that was my intent. On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:26 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: Good shot! Too bad it was so hazy that day, but...that's a familiar happening around there. keith whaley Mar Vista Paul Stenquist wrote: From the park above the palisades just off Ocean and Broadway. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2926176size=lg
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
It would work. To me, it wouldn't be worth the effort or the expense. Plus, you would lose the contrast of warm and cold. Paul On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:52 PM, Juey Chong Ong wrote: Cotty, Would it work if you cover the windows with sheets of warming filters? --jc On Nov 27, 2004, at 4:26 AM, Cotty wrote: Interesting. You have come across a classic mixed lighting situation and balanced the picture entirely for tungsten. I daily shoot pics for the news in such scenarios (minus the nice tree :-) and I can tell you that I hate the ultra blue windows with a vengeance. Some people like the cold blue exteriors through a window I gather ;-) For video, what I would do here is have a couple of redheads up with half-blue gels on them (about 3900K I think they are) and balance for daylight (5600K). This keeps the exterior light from going so blue, and allows the artificial lighting to meet the daylight half way, while giving the domestic lamps some nice warm pools of tungsten illumination. Also, the tree lights would have a nice rosy glow to them. It looks like you've sprayed gold paint on everything but the windows ;-) For stills, I would have balanced for daylight and used flash, keeping the domestic lighting from being obliterated as much as possible - I appreciate you probably shot RAW I know we all see things different, I merely present my approach in such situations. Best, Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO
Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:21:54 -0800 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/rolleireindeer.jpg OK, it's a horrible waste of resources, and is a shamelessly bad snapshot. However, that is a 110 pound Rottweiler in the picture William Robb Rottelope? :) (ala Bloom County) Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Epson Printer (Sylus Photo)
The Epson design is sometimes a problem because of the print head nozzle design. They clog when dry. Epson does recommend a small amount of warm water to clear them. (At least they did with my old Stylus Color 400, almost as old as the Stylus Photo.) If one's household humidity level gets too low in the winter months and printing is seldom, they can clog regularly. It's a problem. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: PESO: Sunset in Santa Monica
Paul Stenquist wrote: Thanks to all who commented. I went out specifically because it was hazy. I've shot that sunset under clear skies any number of times, so I wanted something with more atmosphere. I think the sharp silhouettes in the foreground contrast with the hazy background. In any case, that was my intent. And it worked very well indeed! keith On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:26 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: Good shot! Too bad it was so hazy that day, but...that's a familiar happening around here. keith whaley Mar Vista Paul Stenquist wrote: From the park above the palisades just off Ocean and Broadway. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2926176size=lg
OT: Vivitar 550FD M/P/O - Pentax SP TTL flash solution
From Gene Poon on Yahoo group. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl * The Vivitar 550FD M/P/O (Minolta/Pentax/Olympus) is a medium power bounce-head flash with TTL capability, for use with all Pentax cameras with or without flash programming. It has its own sensor for autoflash, so it can be used with the screw mount models, the K series and the MX/ME, with the user setting X-sync shutter speed and aperture. It has the simple flash program for the ME Super, MV, etc., where the camera will automatically set the X-sync shutter speed when receiving a ready signal from the flash and the user sets aperture. On the Super Program, LX, etc., it will do TTL flash with auto aperture select and auto shutter speed select using the camera's internal sensor and Pentax's ANALOG communications link between camera and flash. On the autofocus Pentax cameras, it is SUPPOSED to be able to do full TTL programmed flash with auto aperture select and auto shutter speed select via Analog communications, but on most of them, one of the pins used for dedication to Minolta or Olympus cameras causes spurious signals to be introduced to the autofocus Pentax body via the digital contact in the hotshoe. This interferes with the control circuitry of the autofocus Pentax. Depending on the camera model, the effect may be improper exposure; an unstable shutter speed, switching at will between X-sync and ambient; or a lockup of the camera's circuitry until the battery is removed (if you are lucky, there may be no effect at all, but that's not what I normally see). This is a shame; the Vivitar 550FD M/P/O is a lightweight and reliable flash unit; if it didn't have this anomaly with the autofocus bodies, it would be usable with both manual and autofocus Pentax, and could be considered to be an almost AF280T lacking only a rotating flash head and viewfinder Sufficient Flash indication; and that function is included, on the rear panel of the flash, instead of in the viewfinder. It's inexpensive in the used market; while the Pentax AF280T is a current Pentax model generally selling in used condition for $50 and up on Internet auctions, the Vivitar 550FD M/P/O can generally be had cheaply. It is easy to modify the Vivitar 550FD M/P/O internally to eliminate this interference with the circuitry of the Pentax autofocus bodies. Yes, one could tape off the offending contacts, but the sharp tips on the pins will wear through the tape in short order. NOTE: this modification involves minor disassembly, and work with some small wires inside the bottom of the flash. If you feel you may have difficulty doing it safely, refer the job to someone who is skilled in this kind of work. First, for safety's sake, you MUST discharge the storage capacitor by switching the flash ON and to the M mode, and then discharging the flash using the READY/TEST button, switching it off IMMEDIATELY without any delay. Remove the batteries and let the flash sit for 24-48 hours, which should bleed off the residual voltage on the storage capacitor. Remove the mounting foot by unscrewing four screws. Be careful not to lose the screws; if you do, don't use anything longer as a replacement since there is circuitry inside the bottom of the flash and you don't want a longer screw touching it. Gently pull the mounting foot away, and notice the wiring on the inside of the foot, to the numbered terminals. Do NOT touch the visible circuit board, but note the wires connected to the pins marked 1 and 2. On mine, the wire to 1 was purple, the one to 2 was white. Cut them off the pins with a nail clipper or small wire cutting pliers; I recommend leaving a small bit of the color coded insulation on the terminal so you can reconnect correctly later on if you want to. Using a small piece of tape, insulate the wires you cut, so they won't touch each other or anything else. Put back the mounting foot and the four screws. Put a small piece of tape inside the battery door, marked PENTAX ONLY because the flash dedication won't work with Minolta or Olympus any more unless you put the wires back. That's it. Now the Vivitar 550FD M/P/O will work with the Pentax autofocus bodies, at least up to the MZ/ZX series (I have not tried it with the *ist series, film or digital). Since I use both the PZ-1 and LX, the 550FD is now ideal as a lightweight flash that can be used in TTL automation with both bodies. NOTE: This only applies to the Vivitar 550FD in its M/P/O version; the C/R and N versions do not have Pentax circuitry in them at all. Also, the same modification works on the Vivitar Series One 600 M/P/O, which is the same basic flash as the 550FD M/P/O but with a rotating zoom head. -Gene Poon Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: Epson Printer (Stylus Photo)
Sure. In an Epson (as opposed to the Hewlett-Packard style wherein the ink jets are contained in the ink cartridge itself) they are in the cartridge's carrier/print head. No practical way to remove and clean, so the machine has a cleaning cycle built into it's software. To elaborate, at the end of every session, one should shut down the printer, whereupon the printer parks it's print head on a sponge material, which is meant to seal the jet orifices from ink evaporation. Ink evaporation causes the ink to eventually get more and more concentrated, and finally solidify and plug up one or more of the many orifices. When that happens, eventually you'll observe blank horizontal lines in anything you print. Then you have to run a cleaning cycle until it comes out clear (clean) and prints well. It may well be true that one cannot use an Epson ink jet printer sporadically, but must use it regularly to keep the ink jets from plugging up. My observations support that contention... keith whaley == uses a cheap Stylus Photo 820. Jens Bladt wrote: Can anyone please explain what clogging means? Thanks Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Paul Stenquist [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. december 2004 00:42 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: Epson Printer (Stylus Photo) My Epson 2200 is an absolute joy. It uses seven inks, five colors plus black and light black. The cartridges can be replaced individually. And, as with the Canon, I can pop a cartridge out and reinsert it to try for another print. It's so quiet, I sometimes have to walk right up to it to make sure it's printing. Prior to this printer I had an Epson 1200 Stylus Photo. Never had a problem with that printer either, although the 2200 is definitely superior in terms of the way it renders shadows and gradations of color. My next printer will be the Epson that replaces the 2200. Paul
Re: Enabled.... hmmm
Mishka, you'll hate me even more, I found one for EUR 295, :-))) This lens is really difficult to find, and I couldn't believe it when I saw one for sale, grabbed it immediately of course, and I'll never ever let go. Frank i hate you too. mishka On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:05:52 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The A*135 1.8 is even larger, but I couldnĀ“t resist at the price of NOK 3500 (a little more than US $500).
Re: Christmas Project
Pat, I tried something like this once about 20 years ago with an ME Super + winder, a 135/2.8 (not Pentax), tripod and a great long air release. The objective was to photograph siskins (Carduelis pinus, about the size of a fat sparrow) on a feeder whilst I was hiding in the house. Although technically fine, the results weren't very pretty, maybe because judging the 'decisive moment' from 30 feet away behind glass was bloody hard. Also, even with a 135mm the click of the shutter and/or whirr of the winder scared the birds away EVERY time, so it took about 2 hours to get 1/2 doz pictures. I think this also contributed to the birds looking a bit freaked out in the photos too :-) I'm afraid I haven't repeated the experiment since. The 15mm might be a fun idea right up close (a 'birds-eye view', hah!), but I suspect it will be very hit and miss and you'll get a lot of waste shots. It may be possible to desensitize the birds to the camera by placing a similar box it the same position and piping 'click-whirr' sounds through it. Other than that it's almost certainly going to scare them off each shot. Good luck with it though and you'll have to let us see any good pics? Chris On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Pat Curran wrote: I plan an attempt at bird table photography during the holidays using one of my Super A bodies / Motor Drive A and a 15mm f3.5 A lens. The plan is to bait a pre-focused area for song birds and then fire the tripod mounted Super A via a newly acquired infrared trigger from the comfort of the kitchen window. Anyone any experience of this type of bird photography? My other lenses are a 50mm f1.4 A and a 200mm f4 A. (- also ordered a used 28mm f2.8 A from KEH tonight so I will have a choice of four lenses - ) Any suggestions on the best lens to use on this project or other tips would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Pat
EC with TTL Flash on ist D?
I just took a series of shots using an M type lens at f5.6 and TTL flash on the D in Manual Mode at 1/150 second and ISO 400. I was about 4.5ft (1.5M) from the subject. Used the pop up flash, room was very dimly lit. At EC settings from -2.5 to +2.5 all of the shots are *uniformly* overexposed. What gives, does EC not affect TTL flash in manual? What does one do in this situation? TIA Don
RE: enabled twice over!
What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: enabled twice over! The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce between a 1.3 to 1.7 crop factor. When you take that into account the fisheye doesn't show much line bending at all since you've taken only the center portion of the image. The resulting image looks like it was produced with an approximately, (keeping in mind that you can't really do a crop factor calculation to the equivalent AOV comparisons between 35mm and smaller sensors due to the non linearity of the fisheye to begin with), 20mm lens with very bad barrel distortion as opposed to a real fisheye. Amita Guha wrote: Here you go! http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :) -Original Message- From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:20 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Re: enabled twice over! Amita... What's the link to those pics? I just received the Zenitar and would also like to look at some other uses for the fisheye beyond the crazy/weird effect. Tim On 12/1/04 20:10, Amita Guha wrote: Oh, I love the distortion, and I've been wanting a fisheye for a while. The photos I saw on Pbase last night showed me the creative potential of using a fisheye beyond just showing off the fisheye effect. Plus, I can always de-fish the shots. :) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
RE: enabled twice over!
He's saying that on the ist D you are only using the central portion of the fisheyes image circle where the effect is the least. This reduces the 'fisheye' effect and the results look more like a distorted WA shot than a true fisheye shot. I'm just now playing with the Zenitar 16/2.8. If I compose carefully the shot looks like a very WA shot with little fisheye effect. On a 35mm this would not be the case. Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: enabled twice over! What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: enabled twice over! The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce between a 1.3 to 1.7 crop factor. When you take that into account the fisheye doesn't show much line bending at all since you've taken only the center portion of the image. The resulting image looks like it was produced with an approximately, (keeping in mind that you can't really do a crop factor calculation to the equivalent AOV comparisons between 35mm and smaller sensors due to the non linearity of the fisheye to begin with), 20mm lens with very bad barrel distortion as opposed to a real fisheye. Amita Guha wrote: Here you go! http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :) -Original Message- From: Tim Sherburne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 11:20 PM To: Pentax Discussion List Subject: Re: enabled twice over! Amita... What's the link to those pics? I just received the Zenitar and would also like to look at some other uses for the fisheye beyond the crazy/weird effect. Tim On 12/1/04 20:10, Amita Guha wrote: Oh, I love the distortion, and I've been wanting a fisheye for a while. The photos I saw on Pbase last night showed me the creative potential of using a fisheye beyond just showing off the fisheye effect. Plus, I can always de-fish the shots. :) -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
Re: Christmas Project
Pat, Like Chris, I've used a long air release some 20 years ago on some Baltimore Orioles at the feeder. I don't remember if I used a 50mm or 135mm, but you can get really close and fill the frame with the feed tray bird. I've still got the shots around somewhere... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:02:07 + (GMT), Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, I tried something like this once about 20 years ago with an ME Super + winder, a 135/2.8 (not Pentax), tripod and a great long air release. The objective was to photograph siskins (Carduelis pinus, about the size of a fat sparrow) on a feeder whilst I was hiding in the house. Although technically fine, the results weren't very pretty, maybe because judging the 'decisive moment' from 30 feet away behind glass was bloody hard. Also, even with a 135mm the click of the shutter and/or whirr of the winder scared the birds away EVERY time, so it took about 2 hours to get 1/2 doz pictures. I think this also contributed to the birds looking a bit freaked out in the photos too :-) I'm afraid I haven't repeated the experiment since. The 15mm might be a fun idea right up close (a 'birds-eye view', hah!), but I suspect it will be very hit and miss and you'll get a lot of waste shots. It may be possible to desensitize the birds to the camera by placing a similar box it the same position and piping 'click-whirr' sounds through it. Other than that it's almost certainly going to scare them off each shot. Good luck with it though and you'll have to let us see any good pics? Chris On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Pat Curran wrote: I plan an attempt at bird table photography during the holidays using one of my Super A bodies / Motor Drive A and a 15mm f3.5 A lens. The plan is to bait a pre-focused area for song birds and then fire the tripod mounted Super A via a newly acquired infrared trigger from the comfort of the kitchen window. Anyone any experience of this type of bird photography? My other lenses are a 50mm f1.4 A and a 200mm f4 A. (- also ordered a used 28mm f2.8 A from KEH tonight so I will have a choice of four lenses - ) Any suggestions on the best lens to use on this project or other tips would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Pat
Optio 750 review in DPR
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/pentax750z/ -- Best Regards Sylwek
Flash output compensation on *istD
Hi! I've read through the manual and couldn't find it. What if I am in (the manual) mode where I want to control the output of the (built-in) flash. How can I do it? Is it at all possible? Thanks. Boris
Re: Flash output compensation on *istD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.12.04 14:34: I've read through the manual and couldn't find it. What if I am in (the manual) mode where I want to control the output of the (built-in) flash. How can I do it? Is it at all possible? The old trick with being in manual mode and using normal exposure compensation should work AFAIR :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
RE: Flash output compensation on *istD
Same question as my EC with TTL Flash on ist D? below. Don -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flash output compensation on *istD Hi! I've read through the manual and couldn't find it. What if I am in (the manual) mode where I want to control the output of the (built-in) flash. How can I do it? Is it at all possible? Thanks. Boris
RE: Flash output compensation on *istD
Here's a copy of my earlier post in case it didn't get to the list: I just took a series of shots using an M type lens at f5.6 and TTL flash on the D in Manual Mode at 1/150 second and ISO 400. I was about 4.5ft (1.5M) from the subject. Used the pop up flash, room was very dimly lit. At EC settings from -2.5 to +2.5 all of the shots are *uniformly* overexposed. What gives, does EC not affect TTL flash in manual? What does one do in this situation? TIA Don -Original Message- From: Sylwester Pietrzyk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Flash output compensation on *istD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02.12.04 14:34: I've read through the manual and couldn't find it. What if I am in (the manual) mode where I want to control the output of the (built-in) flash. How can I do it? Is it at all possible? The old trick with being in manual mode and using normal exposure compensation should work AFAIR :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek
RE: enabled twice over!
Well, the observations are obvious, and the impression I get (at least from Peter's post) is that somehow this is unacceptable, or not a good use for the lens, or that another lens might be better suited to the photos. I only saw four or five pics, and while I do think some may have been better suited to a rectilinear lens, clearly Amita was experimenting a bit (674 pics seems to indicate that), and I'm sure that she'll soon find the ideal use for that particular optic. The idea of using only the central portion of the fisheye seems like a good way to go with a camera like the istd. Still, I'd like to see some pics comparing this lens (and the Zenitar) with similar focal length rectilinear lenses, like the Pentax 14mm, 15mm, and the 16mm side of that zoom (16~45?) that's available for the istd. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's saying that on the ist D you are only using the central portion of the fisheyes image circle where the effect is the least. This reduces the 'fisheye' effect and the results look more like a distorted WA shot than a true fisheye shot. I'm just now playing with the Zenitar 16/2.8. If I compose carefully the shot looks like a very WA shot with little fisheye effect. On a 35mm this would not be the case. Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce between a 1.3 to 1.7 crop factor. When you take that into account the fisheye doesn't show much line bending at all since you've taken only the center portion of the image. http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :)
Re: E6 with JOBO
You may be right... I just ordered D with the 16-45 for around $1350 after rebate. It will pay for itself after one year in film and processing savings. I will also shoot more as I don't have to conserve film. - Original Message - From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: RE: E6 with JOBO I think you have this backwards, it is cheaper to use a digital camera than buy and process E6 film after X number of exposures... JCO -Original Message- From: David Zaninovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: E6 with JOBO I got a wild idea that I could do my own E6 processing as used JOBO CPE-2 processors with lift are cheap right now. Is anybody on the list doing that ? Which chemicals are the best, Kodak or Tetenal ? How long can unmixed chemicals last after the bottle is opened with Kodak vs Tetenal ? Which process is the easiest and which one is the best ? I am using ZX-M and scanning, and I am too cheap to go *ist D/Ds so this is on topic. :)
Re: E6 with JOBO
Forget it, my wife would kill me if the whole house got the formaldehyde smell, I ordered D with 16-45 instead. I would love to play with chemicals but I don't have a separate room to do it and doing it in the bathroom is not fun. - Original Message - From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 10:12 PM Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO - Original Message - From: David Zaninovic Subject: E6 with JOBO I got a wild idea that I could do my own E6 processing as used JOBO CPE-2 processors with lift are cheap right now. Is anybody on the list doing that ? Which chemicals are the best, Kodak or Tetenal ? How long can unmixed chemicals last after the bottle is opened with Kodak vs Tetenal ? Which process is the easiest and which one is the best ? Too simple. Best does not exist, only what compromises you consider important. What brand of film are you shooting? It matters. Don't take on E-^ processing because you think it will be cheaper. Take it on because you want to be a tech head, and you want to be in control of your work, no matter what it costs. I am using ZX-M and scanning, and I am too cheap to go *ist D/Ds so this is on topic. :) I don't know how slide processing has anything to do with digital cameras. William Robb
Re: Enabled.... hmmm
We'll have to start a most hated club :-) If you could see how my A* 85 1.4 looks after 15 years of hard use I'd be president of that club (the glass is fine, I had a CLA and check a couple of years ago). DagT fra: Frank Wajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mishka, you'll hate me even more, I found one for EUR 295, :-))) This lens is really difficult to find, and I couldn't believe it when I saw one for sale, grabbed it immediately of course, and I'll never ever let go. Frank i hate you too. mishka On Mon, 29 Nov 2004 21:05:52 +0100, DagT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The A*135 1.8 is even larger, but I couldnĀ“t resist at the price of NOK 3500 (a little more than US $500).
Re: One more:What is your incamera sharpening set to.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/1/2004, 2:57 AM: What is your prefered sharpness setting in the *istD. Lately i've set everything at the middle setting which is normal i guess. I shoot RAW almost exclusively so I'll make adjustments on a per-picture basis in Camera RAW and PS CS. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO
William Robb wrote on 12/1/2004, 10:20 PM: http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/paw/rolleireindeer.jpg OK, it's a horrible waste of resources, and is a shamelessly bad snapshot. However, that is a 110 pound Rottweiler in the picture In other pictures of Rollei and Leica they've been posing quite obediently. I like how in this example the dog needed to be retrained (if only lightly; good dog) to keep from removing the antlers and perhaps giving his tormentors a good thrashing :-) -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO: Sunset in Santa Monica
Paul Stenquist wrote on 12/2/2004, 6:26 AM: Thanks to all who commented. I went out specifically because it was hazy. I've shot that sunset under clear skies any number of times, so I wanted something with more atmosphere. I think the sharp silhouettes in the foreground contrast with the hazy background. In any case, that was my intent. And that's what i liked about it... Very nice tranquil shot. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peso - ferry to argentia
Ann Sanfedele wrote on 11/28/2004, 12:00 AM: Just started putting some old black and whites up on photo net - here is one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2915425 This was the ferry between Cape Breton Island (Sydney) and Argentia, Newfoundland. I really like this shot Ann, makes me feel the roll of the ship. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. This shot is facing East towards Ocean City. http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - interesting book on ebay...
Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well I'll tell you what do what I do - I wait to see what others on the list say about some link that is posted to see if it sounds interesting :) LOL, Ann, I do the same thing! ERNR Seems to me we agree on a lot of things, Ern! :) ann Except politics. Which, I suppose, says something about the overall (lack of) importance of politics! :-P ERNR
Re: Filter question
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: Filter question If God had wanted us to use cameras, we'd have all been born with one. We weren't? JUST one? ERNR
Re: Some really neat northern lights photos
Quoting William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: - Original Message - From: Jens Bladt Subject: RE: Some really neat northern lights photos Iceland must be really beautiful. My son (13) was there twice already. I have never been to Iceland. Maybe I will go some day. Iceland have more internet connections, than any other European country, compared to the number of people living there. Norway is number 2, Sweeden number 3, Denmark number 4. I wonder why... I guess if it's cold, people tend to stay more indoors!? My understanding is that Iceland is about the most inaptly named country in the world. Greenland is perhaps a bit less aptly named Named by the same people, right?
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
Beautiful shot. I love the coloration. I also find the composition quite pleasant, with the sun offset to the left. This appears to be one of those times when a horizon near the center of the frame works well. Nice work. Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. This shot is facing East towards Ocean City. http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/2/2004, 9:57 AM: Beautiful shot. I love the coloration. I also find the composition quite pleasant, with the sun offset to the left. This appears to be one of those times when a horizon near the center of the frame works well. Nice work. thanks, Paul, I'm glad you liked it, but 'tis the moon, Kate. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enabled twice over!
It depends on your goal, but all-in-all you'll find that the cropped center of an FE can't compete with a good rectilinear lens. Looking through the gallery on Pbase, the digital shots are mildly distorted, enough to suggest a bad lens rather than a fish-eye effect. In my initial query to Amita I was looking for creative ways others have used the extreme FE effect (on film or FF digital) to really add to the image beyond the superficial goofiness. Not that the goofiness is bad, but I already have another 180Ā° rectilinear wide-angle that I can use to get plain vanilla wide shots. For example, some of the shots here where made with the Zenitar: http://www.arinahnell.com/01-04-04/index.htm This was the point I made in a separate thread about choosing the MZ-S over the *istD: The crop factor is something I don't like, so I'm waiting for a FF digital solution, which, I admit, may be a ways off and will be expensive. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Tim On 12/2/04 5:44, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The idea of using only the central portion of the fisheye seems like a good way to go with a camera like the istd. Still, I'd like to see some pics comparing this lens (and the Zenitar) with similar focal length rectilinear lenses, like the Pentax 14mm, 15mm, and the 16mm side of that zoom (16~45?) that's available for the istd. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's saying that on the ist D you are only using the central portion of the fisheyes image circle where the effect is the least. This reduces the 'fisheye' effect and the results look more like a distorted WA shot than a true fisheye shot. I'm just now playing with the Zenitar 16/2.8. If I compose carefully the shot looks like a very WA shot with little fisheye effect. On a 35mm this would not be the case. Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce between a 1.3 to 1.7 crop factor. When you take that into account the fisheye doesn't show much line bending at all since you've taken only the center portion of the image. http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :)
Re: Peso - ferry to argentia
Well, Christian...if you feel the need, remember to go to the downwind side of the ship. ; )) Jack (alas, too weak to resist) --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote on 11/28/2004, 12:00 AM: Just started putting some old black and whites up on photo net - here is one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2915425 This was the ferry between Cape Breton Island (Sydney) and Argentia, Newfoundland. I really like this shot Ann, makes me feel the roll of the ship. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Odd Focal Length
It wasn't odd at all. Such lengths as 55 or 58mm gave perfect lifesize viewing with viewfinders of the SLRs they were introduced along with. That is one of the reasons. Another might be that it is easier to design a superfast lens with narrower field of view and longer clearing distance from the swinging mirror, thus many of the early super-fast lenses (f/1.2, f/1.4) were slightly longer. Frantisek
Re: Good normal lens for the *ist-en?
NC From: Jarek Dabrowski[EMAIL PROTECTED] NC Could you tell more about Sigma 24/1.8 performance (sharpness, and flare NC control) ? Have you used it on a full-frame SLR ? I tried it out on film few years ago. Wide open it was nothing stellar. Also, wide open it has less relative transmission than stopped down, thus the real T stop (f stop but defined as actual light reaching the film, not theoretical amount of f stop) was slightly less than 1.8, it was more like f/2.3 lens. but used at 2.8 it wasn't bad if I remember. It didn't impress me on the whole when I compared it to such superb lenses as AIS Nikkor 2.8/24 I was using. I never owned a Pentax 24mm lens, though, so I can't compare it to these, but the 2.8 versions are said to be excellent as well. However, from my limited experience with it, if you are looking for super-fast lens for film or digital body, the wide aperture isn't usable anyway, so you might be quite better either with 2.8/24 from Pentax (or for cheaper, the 2.8/24 Sigma which was optically better than the later 1.8 in my opinion). Standard disclaimer: Your mileage may vary. Lens testing and comparisons between different people are a minefield of subjectivity. All above comments are my opinion and may apply only to the samples I actually tried out, not to all lenses of that type. ;-) Good light! fra
RE: Changing metering modes in Ds?
Jaume, I'm sorry to tell you that changing the metering mode in Ds is not as simple as pushing ONE button. It involves going into menu to make the change. So the Menu button and 2 pushes of the UP button, One push of the RIGHT button and UP or DOWN depending on which mode you choose. So there you go As I said, not the simplest, but since I use mostly Center Weighted mode, I just leave it there Andy -Original Message- From: Jaume Lahuerta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 7:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Changing metering modes in Ds? Hi, The Ds has a great amount of interesting features but its simplicity (few wheels and buttons) can make the access to some of these features too complicated to be really usable. Being my current AF camera a MZ-5n, that has a dedicated and very convenient commandment to change between spot, multi-zone and CW metering mode, I am worried about how does it works in the Ds and how convenient it is to use 'in the field' (I use it a lot in the 5n). So, have any of you tried this in a Ds? Thanks and regards, Jaume __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Re: Christmas Project
Oh, you are quite advenurous. Aren't you afraid of them - ehm - marking your 15mm as birds usually do? Good luck with it. You might try to build a soundproof box for it. Something like what is used on movie locations for stills and can completely silence even the LX's motordrive blazing at full 5 fps Fra
Re: E6 with JOBO
One thing to consider. I have the JOBO CPE-2 with lift (wwhich was, as you note, quite cheap). Although only doing BW in it so far. One thing to consider though, try getting a CPP-2 with lift. It has better (digital) temperature control and also a cold water valve, which both combine to simpler work at high temperature. I can't help much on the processes. I just remember Tetenal had several, including some tablets only (easy to mix). In fact Tetenal had so many E6 and C41 kits that it got me confused ;-) IIRC, the Kodak kit is the full spec E6 process with the most number of separate baths, the others use usually combined bleach and fix and sometimes more combined with stabiliser? Though the Kodak might be more archival. dunno. Good light! fra
RE: GESO: my cousin's wedding
Hi Amita Nice work. On that one that is a bit washed out, try kicking the contrast up in curves in Photoshop by dragging the top and bottom points to make a steeper incline. Butch
Re: Odd Focal Length
It wasn't odd at all. Such lengths as 55 or 58mm gave perfect lifesize viewing with viewfinders of the SLRs they were introduced along with. That is one of the reasons. Another might be that it is easier to design a superfast lens with narrower field of view and longer clearing distance from the swinging mirror, thus many of the early super-fast lenses (f/1.2, f/1.4) were slightly longer. Frantisek I think Pentax had the first 50mm 1.2 lens as all 1.2 lenses until then were 55mm or 58mm. Andre
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
Nice shot! Gives a peaceful feeling, but a little chilly. This is a case where the horizon in the center works just fine because of the moon and reflection. Nice job! You do need to clean those dust spots off the sensor and clone them out of the picture. :) -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, December 2, 2004, 6:45:06 AM, you wrote: C Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman C Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north C and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. C This shot is facing East towards Ocean City. C http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 C shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. C Comments always appreciated.
Re: enabled twice over!
I asked about using an A-16mm and Peter Ailing wrote and I tended to agree: I have no experience with this lens on the *ist-d but the 17mm fisheye shows enough distortion to look like a 24mm lens with extremely bad barrel distortion. It's neither fish nor fowl. I wouldn't invest for that sole purpose. The lens itself has a great reputation for what it is and on a 35mm camera I'd love to have it, but not for the *ist-d. (Just my opinion but you may not mind barrel distortion). Mark Stringer wrote: What is known about the Pentax SMC-A 16/2.8? Any opinions? It is a fisheye. On an istD would the fisheye be as extreme as on film?- Original Message - From: Tim Sherburne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 9:26 AM Subject: Re: enabled twice over! It depends on your goal, but all-in-all you'll find that the cropped center of an FE can't compete with a good rectilinear lens. Looking through the gallery on Pbase, the digital shots are mildly distorted, enough to suggest a bad lens rather than a fish-eye effect. In my initial query to Amita I was looking for creative ways others have used the extreme FE effect (on film or FF digital) to really add to the image beyond the superficial goofiness. Not that the goofiness is bad, but I already have another 180Ā° rectilinear wide-angle that I can use to get plain vanilla wide shots. For example, some of the shots here where made with the Zenitar: http://www.arinahnell.com/01-04-04/index.htm This was the point I made in a separate thread about choosing the MZ-S over the *istD: The crop factor is something I don't like, so I'm waiting for a FF digital solution, which, I admit, may be a ways off and will be expensive. But I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Tim On 12/2/04 5:44, Shel Belinkoff wrote: The idea of using only the central portion of the fisheye seems like a good way to go with a camera like the istd. Still, I'd like to see some pics comparing this lens (and the Zenitar) with similar focal length rectilinear lenses, like the Pentax 14mm, 15mm, and the 16mm side of that zoom (16~45?) that's available for the istd. Shel [Original Message] From: Don Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] He's saying that on the ist D you are only using the central portion of the fisheyes image circle where the effect is the least. This reduces the 'fisheye' effect and the results look more like a distorted WA shot than a true fisheye shot. I'm just now playing with the Zenitar 16/2.8. If I compose carefully the shot looks like a very WA shot with little fisheye effect. On a 35mm this would not be the case. Don -Original Message- From: Amita Guha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's your point? -Original Message- From: Peter J. Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The large majority of photos in the sample were shot with digital cameras that produce between a 1.3 to 1.7 crop factor. When you take that into account the fisheye doesn't show much line bending at all since you've taken only the center portion of the image. http://www.pbase.com/cameras/sigma/15_28_ex There are 674 of them. Have fun. :)
Re: One more:What is your incamera sharpening set to.
Christian wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/1/2004, 2:57 AM: What is your prefered sharpness setting in the *istD. Lately i've set everything at the middle setting which is normal i guess. I shoot RAW almost exclusively so I'll make adjustments on a per-picture basis in Camera RAW and PS CS. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have the capacity to shoot raw (balst) on my darksider Powershot80. I did set the sharpening to low but like the so-called neutral setting and now am struggling to find how to revert to it in the manual after setting it to low for some reason that seemed like a good idea at the time. havent done much fun stuff with it recently - mainly just ebay things. annsan
Re: Peso - ferry to argentia
Christian wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote on 11/28/2004, 12:00 AM: Just started putting some old black and whites up on photo net - here is one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2915425 This was the ferry between Cape Breton Island (Sydney) and Argentia, Newfoundland. I really like this shot Ann, makes me feel the roll of the ship. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Christian... Fortunately for me, the ship wasn't rolling much that morning :) annsan the landlubber
*istDS Review on photo.shopping.com
http://photo.shopping.com/xPR-istDS~RD-163790294660 I read the above user review, and was a bit surprised at the comments on lag and slowness. From other things I have read about the *istDS, it is not so bad as this guy makes it sound. Does it feel as slow as this guy makes it sound? I wonder if the name biased him? (looking for an excuse to buy Nikon?) Now, I know that spec-wise and performance-wise (speed), the Nikon is better, but I didn't expect the Canon to out perform the Pentax, at least in a noticeable way. It's going to be a few months before I can get my hands on these beasts, but I'm dying to know. :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Peso - ferry to argentia
Jack Davis wrote: Well, Christian...if you feel the need, remember to go to the downwind side of the ship. ; )) Jack (alas, too weak to resist) LOL! Jack - see my comment back to Christian too -- ann --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ann Sanfedele wrote on 11/28/2004, 12:00 AM: Just started putting some old black and whites up on photo net - here is one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2915425 This was the ferry between Cape Breton Island (Sydney) and Argentia, Newfoundland. I really like this shot Ann, makes me feel the roll of the ship. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
Can you do this in digital?
In BW we can affect contrast and gray-level representation of color with the use of filters. Some on the camera, some on the enlarger. What I'm thinking of is really a question about the raw format. Is it truely raw, the simple captured sensor data. If it is, are there techniques in place to allow later treatment of the data as though it were the original light, making it monochrome, filtering the colors, and anything else that I'd like to do on the front end. After it's converted it's not as difficult. Is this even on the right track? What I'm looking for is the ability to treat digital like film. At least in terms of the sequence in handling the data. And promise to never pour fixer onto a lens. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
OT: attn Canadians Word Wars on CBC News World December 5 10!]
This just in - So you guys can get a glimpse of moi and a few of my old pics - I don't know if you get to see the un-bleeped version or the bleeped version up there but it is a fascinating and funny film - even if you don't play Scrabble. My favorite part, is, of course, when the run the credits :) - but in the TV version they go too fast annsan Original Message Subject: [cgp] Word Wars on CBC News World December 5 10! Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 01:08:09 -0800 From: Thana Khambanonda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Thana Khambanonda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Crossword Games Pro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Canadians rejoice! Word Wars will be aired on CBC News World channel on December 5 and again on December 10 @ 10pm and 1am EST / 7pm and 10pm PST. http://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/cinemareal/wordwars.html http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeyesunday/index.html Thana Khambanonda http://victoriascrabbleclub.cjb.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/crossword-games-pro/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
Bruce Dayton wrote on 12/2/2004, 11:57 AM: Nice shot! Gives a peaceful feeling, but a little chilly. This is a case where the horizon in the center works just fine because of the moon and reflection. Nice job! Thanks, Bruce. I was freezing my a** that evening (I think it went down to 0 C, and windy!). You do need to clean those dust spots off the sensor and clone them out of the picture. :) Which dust specks? I think the spots you mean is dust on the lens... thanks again. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?
Great news, Jaume, it takes 11 clicks through menus at worst, 3 at best (hopefully one can wrap scrolling through the recording menu). Pentax placed the metering mode as well as flash compensation at the bottom of the menu page; image tone and size are considered far more useful options (or needed more debugging and the test department required faster access to it!?). :oY Servus, Alin Jaume wrote: JL The Ds has a great amount of interesting features but JL its simplicity (few wheels and buttons) can make the JL access to some of these features too complicated to be JL really usable. JL Being my current AF camera a MZ-5n, that has a JL dedicated and very convenient commandment to change JL between spot, multi-zone and CW metering mode, I am JL worried about how does it works in the Ds and how JL convenient it is to use 'in the field' (I use it a lot JL in the 5n). JL So, have any of you tried this in a Ds? JL Thanks and regards, JL Jaume
Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?
My feeling all along and after handling a DS in the store yesterday is that those who are happy with something less than the MZ-5n, will be happy with the DS. Basically people who are going to leave it on one of the program modes and not change much of anything very often. Those who like the handling of the MZ-5n and up (PZ-1p, MZ-S, etc) will be much happier with the *istD as it has the settings that would be changed most often on dedicated switches and buttons. The DS is nice, but I personally would not buy one for me. I would still buy the original D. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, December 2, 2004, 4:18:33 AM, you wrote: AF Great news, Jaume, it takes 11 clicks through menus at worst, 3 at AF best (hopefully one can wrap scrolling through the recording menu). AF Pentax placed the metering mode as well as flash compensation at the AF bottom of the menu page; image tone and size are considered far more AF useful options (or needed more debugging and the test department AF required faster access to it!?). :oY AF Servus, Alin AF Jaume wrote: JL The Ds has a great amount of interesting features but JL its simplicity (few wheels and buttons) can make the JL access to some of these features too complicated to be JL really usable. JL Being my current AF camera a MZ-5n, that has a JL dedicated and very convenient commandment to change JL between spot, multi-zone and CW metering mode, I am JL worried about how does it works in the Ds and how JL convenient it is to use 'in the field' (I use it a lot JL in the 5n). JL So, have any of you tried this in a Ds? JL Thanks and regards, JL Jaume
Re: Changing metering modes in Ds?
I don't have experience with those other models, but changing the metering mode on the MZ-S rocks. One knob right on the top. In fact, the placement of the knob makes it almost too easy: I've accidentally bumped it into another mode a couple of times. t On 12/2/04 11:14, Bruce Dayton wrote: My feeling all along and after handling a DS in the store yesterday is that those who are happy with something less than the MZ-5n, will be happy with the DS. Basically people who are going to leave it on one of the program modes and not change much of anything very often. Those who like the handling of the MZ-5n and up (PZ-1p, MZ-S, etc) will be much happier with the *istD as it has the settings that would be changed most often on dedicated switches and buttons. The DS is nice, but I personally would not buy one for me. I would still buy the original D.
Re: Can you do this in digital?
Never. Collin Brendemuehl wrote: In BW If it is, are there techniques in place to allow later treatment of the data as though it were the original light, making it monochrome,
RE: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com
I don't have the *istDS, I have the *istD. I haven't physically used a Nikon or Canon, so I can't draw a conclusion. What I believe however is this: 1. I'm not unsatisfied with the *ist D. I'm very happy with it. I don't expect a camera to exceed it's design or any other design. 2. Much of what I read in reviews is a splitting of hairs. Reviewers and consequently consumers spend loads of time being concerned about parameters and performance that matter little in the real day-to-day world of actually using the product. When they do matter it's probably in a rare exceptional shooting situation, rather than the rule. Often a negative is offset by a positive in some other area and vice-versa. 3. With an investent in Pentax lenses, it doesn't really matter what a reviews says or how much a reviewer says one product is better than another... I'm don't have the money to dump my current system and start over, or invest in two systems. That's my $.02. Tom C. From: Jon Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:05:30 +0100 http://photo.shopping.com/xPR-istDS~RD-163790294660 I read the above user review, and was a bit surprised at the comments on lag and slowness. From other things I have read about the *istDS, it is not so bad as this guy makes it sound. Does it feel as slow as this guy makes it sound? I wonder if the name biased him? (looking for an excuse to buy Nikon?) Now, I know that spec-wise and performance-wise (speed), the Nikon is better, but I didn't expect the Canon to out perform the Pentax, at least in a noticeable way. It's going to be a few months before I can get my hands on these beasts, but I'm dying to know. :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Anyone notice this?
With all this talk about wide angles and distortion ... If you watch US pro football on CBS the broadcast seems to be using a rectilinear lens these days. The horizontal lines are just too straight and it's especially easy to see when they shoot from the end zone. Sort of makes TV look like a video game. BTW, rectilinear is a distortion, not the lack of it. It's done to produce an effect which is not natural to either the human eye's vision characteristics or to normal lens designs. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: OT: Anyone notice this?
Collin Brendemuehl wrote on 12/2/2004, 2:29 PM: With all this talk about wide angles and distortion ... If you watch US pro football on CBS the broadcast seems to be using a rectilinear lens these days. The horizontal lines are just too straight and it's especially easy to see when they shoot from the end zone. Sort of makes TV look like a video game. BTW, rectilinear is a distortion, not the lack of it. It's done to produce an effect which is not natural to either the human eye's vision characteristics or to normal lens designs. Funny you should mention that. My wife noticed (and she doesn't like American football, being an Aussie) and commented that it looked like a video game. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can you do this in digital?
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:17:48 -0500, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: In BW we can affect contrast and gray-level representation of color with the use of filters. Some on the camera, some on the enlarger. What I'm thinking of is really a question about the raw format. Is it truely raw, the simple captured sensor data. If it is, are there techniques in place to allow later treatment of the data as though it were the original light, making it monochrome, filtering the colors, and anything else that I'd like to do on the front end. In Photoshop under the Adjustments menu there is an option for Photo filter. You can add a variety of in built filters to the colour picture and then desaturate. This should give the effect of having taken the image with the filter in the first place. I haven't tried it, but I would be interested in hearing from those who do a lot of black and white as to how well it does work. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: Can you do this in digital?
It's terrible. Desaturating an image is the WORST way to make a BW conversion. In addition, the filters used in PS CS are color correction filters, not contrast filters to be used with BW. Shel [Original Message] From: Leon Altoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] In Photoshop under the Adjustments menu there is an option for Photo filter. You can add a variety of in built filters to the colour picture and then desaturate. This should give the effect of having taken the image with the filter in the first place. I haven't tried it, but I would be interested in hearing from those who do a lot of black and white as to how well it does work.
Re: Can you do this in digital?
I've also found that changing the temperature of the light in the RAW converter will affect the look af a subsequent BW conversion. You can also adjust individual color values, which again will afftect the way they convert given a specific channel distribution. Paul On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:17:48 -0500, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: In BW we can affect contrast and gray-level representation of color with the use of filters. Some on the camera, some on the enlarger. What I'm thinking of is really a question about the raw format. Is it truely raw, the simple captured sensor data. If it is, are there techniques in place to allow later treatment of the data as though it were the original light, making it monochrome, filtering the colors, and anything else that I'd like to do on the front end. In Photoshop under the Adjustments menu there is an option for Photo filter. You can add a variety of in built filters to the colour picture and then desaturate. This should give the effect of having taken the image with the filter in the first place. I haven't tried it, but I would be interested in hearing from those who do a lot of black and white as to how well it does work. Leon http://www.bluering.org.au http://www.bluering.org.au/leon
Re: Random PUG Thoughts
Henri Toivonen wrote: mike wilson wrote: Fred Widall wrote: Actually Frank and myself live at (approx) 43.5 N, 80.5 W so we're actually closer to the Equator than the North Pole. A couple of hours drive north of here on the way to a place called Tobermory, there's a road sign marking the 45th parallel. We do get lots of snow though :) I'm almost precisely on 55degrees. I think Jostein is on about 59.something. Paal is probably furthest North? mike I'm at 65 degrees, almost 66. Who will win? So your summer is about three days long.? mike
Re: Random PUG Thoughts
mike wilson wrote: Henri Toivonen wrote: mike wilson wrote: Fred Widall wrote: Actually Frank and myself live at (approx) 43.5 N, 80.5 W so we're actually closer to the Equator than the North Pole. A couple of hours drive north of here on the way to a place called Tobermory, there's a road sign marking the 45th parallel. We do get lots of snow though :) I'm almost precisely on 55degrees. I think Jostein is on about 59.something. Paal is probably furthest North? mike I'm at 65 degrees, almost 66. Who will win? So your summer is about three days long.? mike Something like that, yeah. And daylight lasts for about 4h right now. /Henri
Re: Random PUG Thoughts
- Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] So your summer is about three days long.? LOL. Three lng days...:-) One of my dreams is to spend a week of holiday in December at Svalbard (Spitsbergen)http://www.svalbard.com/infosvalbard.html to experience the dark time. Jostein
Re: EC with TTL Flash on ist D?
What gives, does EC not affect TTL flash in manual? Exactly my experience... however I've found that it's generally pretty accurate. It's just those few situations where it refuses to cooperate! What does one do in this situation? If you're using the inbuilt flash... cover part of it up or similar. If using an off-camera flash, point it partly away for example... pretty crude but hey, what's the review screen for (-:
Re: PESO: Sunset in Santa Monica
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:56:45 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From the park above the palisades just off Ocean and Broadway. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2926176size=lg Beautiful! You know what I like? I know it sounds silly, but I like the hair on the trees on the left, and the texture of the bark of the two on the right. They give the shot an amount of realism that's needed. I'm not sure how to properly explain it, but everything's so perfect that it almost looks like something computer generated, or like someone drew it. Those two details take a bit of the perfection out, to make it beautifully real. Do I make sense? (I fear not). Anyway, gorgeous photo, Paul. thanks, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
RE: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com
I agree with you, Tom. I generally feel the same way. However, most potential buyers do not own a Pentax lens collection to influence their final choise of DSLR equipment. IMO ther's two good resons to buy a Nikon ar a Canon: 1) The size of the camera system: Since the dedicated Pentax DSLR system (available lenses etc.) is very limited, not many people - other than those who already use Pentax SLR gear - will buy into the *'stD and *ist DS system. Perhaps first time (D)SLR users, who doesn't have a clue about what they may or may not need in a year of two, will find the small and well designed bodies attractive and buy int this system. This will apply to non professional photographers and perhaps a few more. 2) Branding I guess branding is very important for many DSLR buyers - the tests and reviews are quite difficult to read, understand, believe, assess etc., which means, that the easy thing to do is - forget about the reviews and simply choose a DSLR brand that pro's use: Nikon and Canon. The reasons for buying a Pentax are somehow less obvoius/conspicous, but could be: Small size, yet very durable (as opposed to D70 and 300D?) Ergonomic and pretty (?) design Performance (if not outperforming or even matching the competition, still very capable). User friendly time-less interface Good build quality and quality feel. Overall image quality and system quality Anyway, it will be intersting to see more DS-reviews and sales figures! Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Tom C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 2. december 2004 20:26 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: RE: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com I don't have the *istDS, I have the *istD. I haven't physically used a Nikon or Canon, so I can't draw a conclusion. What I believe however is this: 1. I'm not unsatisfied with the *ist D. I'm very happy with it. I don't expect a camera to exceed it's design or any other design. 2. Much of what I read in reviews is a splitting of hairs. Reviewers and consequently consumers spend loads of time being concerned about parameters and performance that matter little in the real day-to-day world of actually using the product. When they do matter it's probably in a rare exceptional shooting situation, rather than the rule. Often a negative is offset by a positive in some other area and vice-versa. 3. With an investent in Pentax lenses, it doesn't really matter what a reviews says or how much a reviewer says one product is better than another... I'm don't have the money to dump my current system and start over, or invest in two systems. That's my $.02. Tom C. From: Jon Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:05:30 +0100 http://photo.shopping.com/xPR-istDS~RD-163790294660 I read the above user review, and was a bit surprised at the comments on lag and slowness. From other things I have read about the *istDS, it is not so bad as this guy makes it sound. Does it feel as slow as this guy makes it sound? I wonder if the name biased him? (looking for an excuse to buy Nikon?) Now, I know that spec-wise and performance-wise (speed), the Nikon is better, but I didn't expect the Canon to out perform the Pentax, at least in a noticeable way. It's going to be a few months before I can get my hands on these beasts, but I'm dying to know. :-) -- -Jon Glass Krakow, Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
Great image! Well seen captured. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. This shot is facing East towards Ocean City. http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. Comments always appreciated. -- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:45:06 -0500, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. This shot is facing East towards Ocean City. http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. Comments always appreciated. I'm glad that everyone else has loved it, because I won't feel so bad trashing it. g Okay, I won't trash it, but I have to be honest, this doesn't do much for me. I think it's those apartment buildings or hotels or whatever they are on the horizon. To me, they're just so bland, they take away from what might have been a nice shot. I like the grassy marshie things in the foreground, and of course the colours of the sky are inspiring. As a couple of folks have already mentioned, here's the exception that makes the rule: the horizon in the middle does indeed work. But, those damned apartments! vbg Sorry, but I think it's just me, so no need to pay attention. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: enabled twice over!
On 2 Dec 2004 at 11:50, Mark Stringer wrote: I asked about using an A-16mm and Peter Ailing wrote and I tended to agree: I have no experience with this lens on the *ist-d but the 17mm fisheye shows enough distortion to look like a 24mm lens with extremely bad barrel distortion. It's neither fish nor fowl. I wouldn't invest for that sole purpose. The lens itself has a great reputation for what it is and on a 35mm camera I'd love to have it, but not for the *ist-d. (Just my opinion but you may not mind barrel distortion). For some reason I haven't seen the original message yet, it'll probably lob into my mail box next week some time. In any case I have the A16/2.8 and I'm on the disappointed side, I've owned this lens since the late eighties and it's definitely one of the best in its class, sharp great contrast, minimal CA. But on the *ist D it just looks like a really crap WA, one that I'd put on ebay really rapidly. Aside from the small advantage in absolute AOV when required I don't use it a great deal these days, its output just doesn't have the same appeal cropped. Following are two recent pics :-) both FF and shot hand held with the A16/2.8 at f2.8: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/IMGP6170.jpg Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Next Pentax DSLR?
Hi all, My name is Joakim Johansson and I'm a new member. I have a question, witch perhaps have been discussed before, about the next Pentax DSLR. Is it possible that Pentax release a new advanced model (a upgrade of the *istD) during 2005, and what can we expect from it if that is the case? Kindly Joakim Johansson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 2004-10-15
Re: Christmas Project
Bob, Chris, Like I said to Fra, I am not looking for 'bird guide' shots - more an unusual shot that will occur by chance in a 3.5fps burst. Not sure which lens will give the best result but I will try the 15mm f3.5 first (with front element protection) and then the 28mm f2.8. I will post any good shots so you can let me know what you think. I intend to put the camera into a protective housing and allow the birds to acclimatise to it during a trial period using cheap colour neg film. Serious attempts at grabbing velvia trannies will be made on cold mornings when the birds are hungry. Pat - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: Re: Christmas Project Pat, Like Chris, I've used a long air release some 20 years ago on some Baltimore Orioles at the feeder. I don't remember if I used a 50mm or 135mm, but you can get really close and fill the frame with the feed tray bird. I've still got the shots around somewhere... Regards, Bob S. On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 13:02:07 + (GMT), Chris Stoddart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pat, I tried something like this once about 20 years ago with an ME Super + winder, a 135/2.8 (not Pentax), tripod and a great long air release. The objective was to photograph siskins (Carduelis pinus, about the size of a fat sparrow) on a feeder whilst I was hiding in the house. Although technically fine, the results weren't very pretty, maybe because judging the 'decisive moment' from 30 feet away behind glass was bloody hard. Also, even with a 135mm the click of the shutter and/or whirr of the winder scared the birds away EVERY time, so it took about 2 hours to get 1/2 doz pictures. I think this also contributed to the birds looking a bit freaked out in the photos too :-) I'm afraid I haven't repeated the experiment since. The 15mm might be a fun idea right up close (a 'birds-eye view', hah!), but I suspect it will be very hit and miss and you'll get a lot of waste shots. It may be possible to desensitize the birds to the camera by placing a similar box it the same position and piping 'click-whirr' sounds through it. Other than that it's almost certainly going to scare them off each shot. Good luck with it though and you'll have to let us see any good pics? Chris On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Pat Curran wrote: I plan an attempt at bird table photography during the holidays using one of my Super A bodies / Motor Drive A and a 15mm f3.5 A lens. The plan is to bait a pre-focused area for song birds and then fire the tripod mounted Super A via a newly acquired infrared trigger from the comfort of the kitchen window. Anyone any experience of this type of bird photography? My other lenses are a 50mm f1.4 A and a 200mm f4 A. (- also ordered a used 28mm f2.8 A from KEH tonight so I will have a choice of four lenses - ) Any suggestions on the best lens to use on this project or other tips would be very much appreciated. Thanks, Pat
Re: Christmas Project
Hi Fra, Oh, you are quite adventurous. Aren't you afraid of them - ehm - marking your 15mm as birds usually do? Yes, this is a danger, but I do intend to use a protective housing for the camera with a glass panel to protect the lens and some sort of heating system to help preserve batteries. Good luck with it. You might try to build a soundproof box for it. Something like what is used on movie locations for stills and can completely silence even the LX's motordrive blazing at full 5 fps I am not too concerned about the noise - I only intend to shoot for short periods in frost conditions when the birds are hungry. I am not necessarily looking for the 'bird guide' type of picture, more like the second or third frame of the Motor Drive A's 3.5 fps burst and perhaps catch a whirl of wings as the birds take flight after the first frame is fired. If the birds are hungry enough they will soon return to the feeder. Pat
Re: OT: attn Canadians Word Wars on CBC News World December 5 10!]
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 13:18:05 -0500, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This just in - So you guys can get a glimpse of moi and a few of my old pics - I don't know if you get to see the un-bleeped version or the bleeped version up there but it is a fascinating and funny film - even if you don't play Scrabble. My favorite part, is, of course, when the run the credits :) - but in the TV version they go too fast Hey, Ann, Well, I've already seen it, during a private screening, with extraneous commentary not heard on the video vbg. No need to worry, CBC Newsworld won't bleep out a thing. It will be heard in all its coarse glory (that would be Marlon who does most of the swearing, right? g). Come to think of it, even our non-cable broadcast networks don't bleep out much, at least not compared to what I see on US networks. Sometimes, we even get to see naughty bits on prime time. The shock! The horror! Mind you, we're going to legalize pot and have already legalized gay marriage, so see what lack of censorship does? g Seriously, anyone who gets Newsworld should watch. It's a fun doc. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
On 2/12/04, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.skofteland.net/displayimage.php?album=10pos=3 shot with the D and an A 50/2, cropped and resized for the web. Comments always appreciated. Surreal. Almost like an airbrushed graphic. Beautiful. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
Re: PESO: 'Twas the day after Thanksgiving....
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 23:02:08 -0500, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And all through the house, my wife and daughters were dragging up boxes from the basement and working furiously to decorate the Christmas tree. That's somewhat of a tradition around here. My part of the job was to go out and buy a tree this morning. I opted for a long needle Scotch Pine this year. We haven't had one of those in many years. Different is fun. Anyway, I shot it with the DA 16-45. I dialed in about plus 1.5 exposure compensation at f11, and positioned the camera on a cabinet. The exposure was around half a second I think. In any case, here it is. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2912959size=lg Nice tree!! I thought it was artificial (and was going to chastise you for not having a real tree g) until I re-read your post. I gotta say, Paul, that's a lovely den the tree's in, too. You've captured all that warmth in the photograph. Well done. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Next Pentax DSLR?
- Original Message - From: Joakim Johansson Subject: Next Pentax DSLR? Hi all, My name is Joakim Johansson and I'm a new member. I have a question, witch perhaps have been discussed before, about the next Pentax DSLR. Is it possible that Pentax release a new advanced model (a upgrade of the *istD) during 2005, and what can we expect from it if that is the case? I think the new camera is scheduled to be released at the next Ulan Bator show.. Seriously, they pretty much have to release a new model, if for no other reason than to maintain some sort of dignity in the marketplace. My bet is nothing until the fall of 2005, similar body style to the istD, 8mp, more or less the same feature set as the istD, but with a larger buffer and faster frame rate. Note, this may well be completely off base. William Robb
Re: PESO: Alexandra
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 13:49:44 -0500, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week, we saw my friend's 2 1/2 month old baby for the first time. I'm still learning to shoot indoors, but this shot was one of the non-blurry ones. I corrected for the yellow cast in Capture One. http://sunny16.smugmug.com/gallery/300338 Amita Haven't had much time to be online this week, it seems, so I'm playing catch-up with PAW's and PESO's. Amita, this is a lovely shot! What an expressive face - an captured beautifully, too. I'm not a baby person, but your photo brought a smile to the face of this still-too-young curmudgeon. vbg cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: OT: Anyone notice this?
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 14:29:28 -0500, Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all this talk about wide angles and distortion ... If you watch US pro football on CBS the broadcast seems to be using a rectilinear lens these days. The horizontal lines are just too straight and it's especially easy to see when they shoot from the end zone. Sort of makes TV look like a video game. BTW, rectilinear is a distortion, not the lack of it. It's done to produce an effect which is not natural to either the human eye's vision characteristics or to normal lens designs. Yeah, I've noticed, and I don't like it. For one thing, it makes the field look wy too short. And, yes, I thought the same thing as you: looks like a video game. Doesn't enhance the viewing experience, to my mind. Oh well, no one asked me. Seems that it's just a gimmick along the lines of we're doing it because we can, not because it's better or anything. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Peso - ferry to argentia
On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 00:00:59 -0500, Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just started putting some old black and whites up on photo net - here is one: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2915425 This was the ferry between Cape Breton Island (Sydney) and Argentia, Newfoundland. Great lighting. Great photo. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: Can you do this in digital?
Actually Collin, (I risk my life by mentioning) I've only recently been getting to know the inbuilt b/w parameters in the 20D. You can shoot b/w RAW if you like, and the camera also seems to be able to emulate several colour filters (red, orange, green, blue etc.). I really like the results I've been getting, and although I haven't made any b/w prints from my shots yet, I suspect I'd have difficulty differentiating a b/w film print from the digital shots I've taken. Already having mentioned Canon, I don't think the following sample b/w cat pictures will score me any points either: http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907358size=lg http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=2907401size=lg Taken as large fine jpegs then resized (no other adjustments). technical details are in the 'details' table. Some other b/w examples of the b/w 'filters' are on the dpreview review: http://tinyurl.com/4v3bt Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Collin Brendemuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Can you do this in digital? In BW we can affect contrast and gray-level representation of color with the use of filters. Some on the camera, some on the enlarger. What I'm thinking of is really a question about the raw format. Is it truely raw, the simple captured sensor data. If it is, are there techniques in place to allow later treatment of the data as though it were the original light, making it monochrome, filtering the colors, and anything else that I'd like to do on the front end. After it's converted it's not as difficult. Is this even on the right track? What I'm looking for is the ability to treat digital like film. At least in terms of the sequence in handling the data. And promise to never pour fixer onto a lens. Sincerely, C. Brendemuehl Sent via the WebMail system at mail.safe-t.net
Re: EC with TTL Flash on ist D?
- Original Message - From: Don Sanderson Subject: EC with TTL Flash on ist D? I just took a series of shots using an M type lens at f5.6 and TTL flash on the D in Manual Mode at 1/150 second and ISO 400. I was about 4.5ft (1.5M) from the subject. Used the pop up flash, room was very dimly lit. At EC settings from -2.5 to +2.5 all of the shots are *uniformly* overexposed. What gives, does EC not affect TTL flash in manual? What does one do in this situation? Welcome to the wonderful world of TTL flash, Pentax style. William Robb
Re: OT: Anyone notice this?
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: OT: Anyone notice this? Funny you should mention that. My wife noticed (and she doesn't like American football, being an Aussie) and commented that it looked like a video game. I think that they are shooting at much higher shutter speeds these days, but NTSC lockes them into a frame rate. I have noticed for quite some times that sports broadcasts tend to have a rather unpleasant jumpiness about them. It has pretty much destroyed any interest I may have had in televised sports, which wasn't all that much in the first place. William Robb
Re: E6 with JOBO
- Original Message - From: David Zaninovic Subject: Re: E6 with JOBO You may be right... I just ordered D with the 16-45 for around $1350 after rebate. It will pay for itself after one year in film and processing savings. I will also shoot more as I don't have to conserve film. And as long as you are happy giving up slides One of the things I find baffling is the concept that a digital image can replace a transparency. They are a totally different beast, not only in technology, but also in concept. I can understand a digital SLR replacing negative film, since the concept is similar, they use a different technology, but the end use is to make a print. William Robb
Re: My Sister and Niece
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 04:19:56 -0800, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ... I'm putting together a little family album and, since so many here have put up family snaps, I thought I'd put up one of my sister and my niece, taken a few years ago in full happy family snap mode using a Pentax IQ928 Zoom PS. http://home.earthlink.net/~my-pics/family/01.html Shel I like it. Two happy people, in a happy place. Next time someone slags ya about showing homeless drug addicts, remind them about this one, Shel! LOL Seriously, I love photos with smiling people. Nice one. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
Re: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: PESO - Moonrise over Assawoman Bay Yes, the name of the bay near Ocean City, Maryland is called Assawoman Bay. It's connected to Little Assawoman Bay in Delaware to the north and empties into the Atlantic Ocean to the south. Comments always appreciated. I'm surprised that the PC Nazis haven't gotten hold of that name yet. William Robb
Re: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com
I think you will find that most of what you read on photo.net is pretty biased towards Nikon/Canon. About the only things readily believable in the article is that the guy is a slow learner and don't believe everything you read on the net. William Robb - Original Message - From: Jon Glass Subject: *istDS Review on photo.shopping.com http://photo.shopping.com/xPR-istDS~RD-163790294660 I read the above user review, and was a bit surprised at the comments on lag and slowness. From other things I have read about the *istDS, it is not so bad as this guy makes it sound. Does it feel as slow as this guy makes it sound? I wonder if the name biased him? (looking for an excuse to buy Nikon?) Now, I know that spec-wise and performance-wise (speed), the Nikon is better, but I didn't expect the Canon to out perform the Pentax, at least in a noticeable way. It's going to be a few months before I can get my hands on these beasts, but I'm dying to know. :-)