Re: Winter's finger

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks, glad that you liked it.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 4:47:06 PM, you wrote:

JaKM> Beautifully spotted and composed Bruce.

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>> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
>> 
>> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
>> 
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
>> 
>> Comments welcome
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Re: PESO: Enjoying the View

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice shot, Mark. The scene is powerful on its own, but the coujple  
takes it up a notch. Nicely exposed: sky tones intact. Good one.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Mark Dalal wrote:

> My girlfriend and I were down in Austin to meet a college buddy. We  
> stopped
> at Mount Bonnell to check out the view. I came across this couple  
> sitting on
> the rock ledge.
>
> Pentax *istDS, Pentax SMC-F 24-50/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/60 sec @ f/13
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=343093238&size=o
>
> Comments welcome...
>
> Mark
>
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Re: Scanning

[K.Takeshita]

On 1/02/07 8:22 PM, "Godfrey DiGiorgi", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Having spent a good part of two days on and off scanning P645
> negatives, I'm resigned to the fact that this process is hopelessly,
> infuriatingly tedious and unproductive. I remember now why I was so
> happy to be done with it.

Any inclination to go back to APS cartridges?
Load it and forget it :-).

Ken

P.S.
Actually, I appreciate an adapter for 35mm film in roll.  Too bad 120/220
film scanning is an individual process.
I still think Kodak (and others) should have cassettized 35mm films, may be
even MF films somehow, then the life of films may have been a bit longer.
Scanning negs indeed takes some fun away.  It is unproductive, particularly
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[graywolf]

Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Tim ?sleby wrote:
> 
>> Don't believe you.
>> With an IQ of 50 you should have trouble opening a door on your own ;-)
> 
> Loss of 50 IQ points. But we agree, he must have started pretty high. 
> Not sure if "get well soon" applies, Graywolf, but here goes anyway. 
> You had mentioned a visit to a specialist last month; anything 
> promising?

Yes this third neurologist's profound $3000 opinion was, "Duh, I dunno!" 
Which confirms the second's professional opinion. The first was sure she 
knew exactly what the problem was, only the treatment did not help a 
bit. The only consolation is that I do seem to be getting better, but it 
is so slow that I have to look back a year or more to see the improvement.

Thanks for asking,

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[graywolf]

Tom C wrote:
>> From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I really didn't use to
>> understand why people didn't get it when I gave them a couple of hints,
>> much less why I should have to explain the same thing over, and over,
>> and over. Now, unfortunately, I do understand.
>>
> 
> What?
> 
> Tom C.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[K.Takeshita]

On 1/02/07 8:43 PM, "graywolf", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes this third neurologist's profound $3000 opinion was, "Duh, I dunno!"
> Which confirms the second's professional opinion. The first was sure she
> knew exactly what the problem was, only the treatment did not help a
> bit. The only consolation is that I do seem to be getting better, but it
> is so slow that I have to look back a year or more to see the improvement.

Don't they have to have higher IQ than patients in this sort of business,
no?
Are you sure which one is diagnosing which? :-).

Ken


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Re: Scanning

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 03/01/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've yet to see a decent 35mm scan from a flatbed, mostly because the
> > holders suck horribly. MF and LF scans on the other hand can get quite
> > good with the higher-end scanners, if not quite up to a Nikon 9000's output.
>
> I have an LS-8000, V700 and Minolta AF-5400 II, the latter dedicated
> for 35mm film scanning and it is of course the best of the three at
> the job though I'd like to see the output from a V750 (with the wet
> mount).

Can't you get the fluid mount separate? I read somewhere that it can
be used on the V700.

Although it looks like lots of extra work.

Cheers,

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Re: Snowflake and hoarfrost

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, Tom C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A nice snowflake and hoar frost photo taken with a Pentax *ist DS and Sigma
> lens is on
>
> http://www.spaceweather.com
>
> at the moment.
>
>
> Tom C.

I'm no expert on snow & hoar frost, but would that be a pretty severe
crop of the original, or is it doable at 1:1.

Cheers,

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OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[Digital Image Studio]

My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
anyone is interested.

Warning child pictures follow:

http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Tom Simpson]

A rather specialized one. We have people that keep up with the overhead 
projectors, TVs, all the old school stuff. And of course, the 16mm film 
and LaserDisc stuff is all long gone now...though we are still very deep 
in VHS. :-/

My bag is all the new toys that have computers hooked up to them. I make 
lessons MOVE and SING!  :-)

And this is after working for 15 years as a printer before going back 
and getting my BA (Interdisciplinary Studies, Administrative Information 
Management and Business Management, about 50/50) and my MAT (Business 
Education). Naturally, they put me in the classroom teaching US History. 
:-) Now, I play Train The Teacher. And no, I don't work with blackboards 
often...MOST of our teachers can manage that much without my help. :-)

Oh, and Pentax..*istD L, several each K1000, ME Super, Spotmatic. Fave 
lens of all time: the Pentax A 1.7 50mm. It just works, is all.

-Tom
in Sunny SC, USA


Bob Sullivan wrote:
> Tom,
> Sounds like you're the Professional A/V Guy...
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On 1/2/07, Tom Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I am my districts guy that runs around setting up and teaching teachers
>> how to use things like electronic interactive whiteboards, LCD
>> projectors, streaming video, all the technology stuff that takes place
>> at the front of the modern classroom, and teaching them how to
>> seamlessly integrate it with other instructional methods. My way of
>> escaping (most of the way) the high school classroom and the ulcers that
>> go with it.
>>
>> -Tom
>>
>> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>> 
>>> What is "instructional technology?"
>>>
>>> Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 [Original Message]
 From: Tom Simpson

 
>>>   
 Social studies teacher / school district instructional technology
 specialist.

 
>>>
>>>
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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
> no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
> life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
> refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
> together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
> anyone is interested.
>
> Warning child pictures follow:
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html





Are my faves of the bunch.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I should really pay attention to what I'm doing.  Correct link below:
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
> >
>
> Senseless slaughter...

I like it.

In these parts they put steel pipe bollards around some roadside trees
to protect them.

Dave

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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[Paul Stenquist]

It's obvious that the victim ran out in front of the car. I know.  
I've had that happen to me.
Paul
On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:09 PM, David Savage wrote:

> On 1/3/07, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I should really pay attention to what I'm doing.  Correct link  
>>> below:
>>>
>>> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_-- 
>>> _anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>>>
>>
>> Senseless slaughter...
>
> I like it.
>
> In these parts they put steel pipe bollards around some roadside trees
> to protect them.
>
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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[Paul Stenquist]

Some great baby pics there, Rob. And what a sturdy looking little guy  
he is. Congratulations and good work. Many thousands of additional  
pics to follow. Been there done that, five times now (Counting Grace:-).
Paul
On Jan 2, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

> My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
> no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
> life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
> refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
> together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
> anyone is interested.
>
> Warning child pictures follow:
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html
>
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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[K.Takeshita]

On 1/02/07 9:06 PM, "Digital Image Studio", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
> no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
> life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
> refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
> together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
> anyone is interested.

Ah, this was what has been making you a little cranky recently :-).
Thanks for sharing.  I love those innocent kids.
This will keep you busy for another while.
My admiration for your son (and sympathy to you ;-).

Ken


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Funniest Kodak commercial

[George Sinos]

"You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
this time it's digital..."



I'm still laughing.

See you later, gs

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RE: Do it yourself pano head

[Markus Maurer]

*I* plan to make panoramas of the Swiss mountains and the city of Zurich at
infinity with no near objects in the foreground.
greetings
Markus


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> Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
> rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them

What kind of camera to subject distance are we talking about here?

Kenneth Waller

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> On 02/01/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi Dave
>> since I only will make flat panoramas made out of 3-6 shots and not 360
>> degree round ones I would love to see the difference in a panorama with
>> and
>> without nodal point adjustment of the camera for my requirements . Has
>> anybody a link or selfmade panoramas with a comparison?
>> Gratulations for your self made head from somebody with "two left hands"
>> :-)
>
> Just take two shots with a wide angle lens in a confined space by
> rotating on the spot and attempt to stitch them, it's no fun. Do the
> same thing using a pano head with the correct offset dialed in and
> stitching will be very easy.
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Re: Winter's finger

[P. J. Alling]

Not really sure I like it.  No real criticism, just not sure...

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
>
> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
>
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
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> Comments welcome
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Re: GFM Registration is OPEN!

[rg2]

where do you register?

rg2

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>> I'm 308.
>> Paul
>> On Jan 1, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Cotty wrote:
>> 
>>> On 1/1/07, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>>
 #253...
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Re: PESO - Bicycle in the snow

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 12:43 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

> Looks like blur reduction was turned off.

They were probably going super fast just to keep warm.

Cycling in snow is not something I like to do too often, and I  
wouldn't go near the stuff if there was any traffic.

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RE: Do it yourself pano head

[Markus Maurer]

Thanks Rob  Id ownloaded the article and will read it.
I never had anything near in the foreground in the few panos I did, that
must be the point.
greetings
Markus

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On 03/01/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I was just lucky so far that I did not use anything wider than a 50mm?
> I will make the next panos again with the Pentax 50mm or 100mm.
> greetings
> Markus

Not really, you could be lucky and the natural point of rotation of
your lens/camera/head combo is close to the actual nodal point or like
Ken your compositions don't feature close in elements that will be
affected by parallax errors.

There is a new article covering this issue that's worth a read:

http://www.janrik.net/PanoPostings/NoParallaxPoint/TheoryOfTheNoParallaxPoin
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Re: Do it yourself pano head

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 12:25 PM, William Robb wrote:

> A couple of years ago, I was asked to do a multi exposure stitch of  
> a map
> that had been emailed from somewhere in eastern Europe.
> It was a nightmare. I don't recall exactly how many exposures the
> photographer had done, close to two dozen, and nothing lined up  
> without
> extensive transforming.

This is why I eventually decided to just crop 6x7.  One click, no fuss.

Not that I'd like to run a few rolls through a 6x17...

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Re: Winter's finger

[Paul Stenquist]

> Simple, but effective. The title helps it, but it stands on its own  
> as a well composed shot.
Paul
> .
>
> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
>>
>> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
>>
>
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Re: GFM Registration is OPEN!

[David Savage]

http://www.grandfather.com/planning_your_visit/events/nphoto.php

Only 20 seats remaining as of 4:30 Tuesday.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/3/07, rg2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[Doug Franklin]

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> I had [...] no intentions of getting into this line of work [...]

Uh-huh.  You got yourself into that mess.  Don't look for sympathy from
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RE: Pentax Spotmatic II gold

[Markus Maurer]

I sent Steven the link privately since it is/was a running auction and of
course none of mine :-)
greetings
Markus

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On Mon, 1 Jan 2007, Steven Larson wrote:

> Where?

Markus is in Switzerland.

Kostas

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Re: Occupations?

[Stan Halpin]

I have been out of school (PhD in Social Psychology from Purdue) since 
1970. I am a researcher and research manager in the federal civil 
service, current focus is on leadership development principles and 
practices. Monograph on same is in the final editing stages. Previous 
edited book on same is available from Amazon. (Day, Zacarro & 
Halpin...). The work is branching into a look at cross-cultural 
cooperation and teamwork in coalitions. Also taught a graduate-level 
course on principles of leadership this fall, first teaching stint in 
many years - totally online. In my spare time I do passable woodwork, 
make crude silver jewelry (interesting design concepts poorly 
executed), and occasionally take passable pictures. Oh, and I travel a 
lot.

Stan


On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Mark Dalal wrote:
>
> When I first joined the list, I was a graduate student in the Bay 
> Area. I
> got my Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology a few years back and have settled 
> in the
> DFW area. I work as a psychologist at a local university and have a
> part-time private practice.
>
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RE: Winter's finger

[Markus Maurer]

This time I find the background more interesting than the main subject.
greetings
Markus



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Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.

Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm

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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[Perry Pellechia]

LOL!



On 1/2/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
> this time it's digital..."
>
> 
>
> I'm still laughing.
>
> See you later, gs
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Re: Scanning

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Having spent a good part of two days on and off scanning P645
> negatives, I'm resigned to the fact that this process is hopelessly,
> infuriatingly tedious and unproductive. I remember now why I was so
> happy to be done with it.

Scanning medium format is pretty tedious.  When I scan I sit aside  
with a book as each scan takes about 15 minutes after I've finished  
fiddling with the settings.  Later in the evening I'll process the  
files in Photoshop with some music on.  The dICE doesn't seem to work  
as well with 6x7 slides so the dust spotting takes a while.

35mm isn't too bad once I get into a good workflow.  At the moment  
I'm slowly working through a shoebox of old Kodachromes that someone  
asked me to scan.  Those ones are driving me slightly crazy.

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Re: Do it yourself pano head

[Digital Image Studio]

On 03/01/07, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Rob  Id ownloaded the article and will read it.
> I never had anything near in the foreground in the few panos I did, that
> must be the point.

Very true, however if you do it's always good to have some knowledge
and potential solutions up your sleeve. Check out the following
article which describes a practical hand held pano-shooting technique:

http://www.philohome.com/tripod/shooting.htm

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PESO - Full Moon Tonight

[Mat Maessen]

http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/testscans/IMGP0750-cropped.jpg.html

Taken about half an hour ago, in my driveway.

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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[graywolf]

Hum...? Did that crash my system? Or was it just a coincidence. Got one 
of those "if this is the first time you have seen this message restart 
windows" things. I am not going back to see. First a full virus scan...


Perry Pellechia wrote:
> LOL!
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/2/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
>> this time it's digital..."
>>
>> 
>>
>> I'm still laughing.
>>
>> See you later, gs
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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[John Celio]

> "You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
> this time it's digital..."
>
> 

Almost makes me want to buy a Kodak.

And actually, some of the Kodaks I used to sell were decent little cameras. 
I probably would have bought the twin-lens model if I'd ever had the money.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Also used in audio systems. my little understanding is that the  
> advantage
> using them is that they are more efficient than other transistors,  
> in other
> word more power, less spill heat.

Only in certain applications.  As far as audio goes, the heat output  
depends more on the topology (class A, AB, etc) than the componentry.

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[graywolf]

Sorry, Ken, I should have made it clear that that was my translation of 
their five minute long summary of their findings. But if your question 
was true, the upper 50% of the population would be in real trouble.

Also, do not confuse knowledge with intelligence. They often go hand in 
hand, but not always. I once knew a fellow who could recite everything 
they had taught him in school --thirty years later--, but he did have a 
hard time tying his shoes because that require a certain amount of 
understanding.

Quote recall quiz: Who was it that said, "An exceptional memory is often 
a sign of feeble mindedness"?



K.Takeshita wrote:
> On 1/02/07 8:43 PM, "graywolf", <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes this third neurologist's profound $3000 opinion was, "Duh, I dunno!"
>> Which confirms the second's professional opinion. The first was sure she
>> knew exactly what the problem was, only the treatment did not help a
>> bit. The only consolation is that I do seem to be getting better, but it
>> is so slow that I have to look back a year or more to see the improvement.
> 
> Don't they have to have higher IQ than patients in this sort of business,
> no?
> Are you sure which one is diagnosing which? :-).
> 
> Ken
> 
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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[David Savage]

How's your system set up to handle Flash media? It's just a Flash video.

YouTube is pretty save as far as I know.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1/3/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hum...? Did that crash my system? Or was it just a coincidence. Got one
> of those "if this is the first time you have seen this message restart
> windows" things. I am not going back to see. First a full virus scan...
>
>
> Perry Pellechia wrote:
> > LOL!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/2/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> "You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
> >> this time it's digital..."
> >>
> >> 

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 5:28 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> What's a MOSFET?

A small explosive.

- Dave (former power electronics engineer)


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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[graywolf]

Well, I did refuse the last Flash upgrade, my my Multimedia Suite 
installation predates the Adobe buyout.



David Savage wrote:
> How's your system set up to handle Flash media? It's just a Flash video.
> 
> YouTube is pretty save as far as I know.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 1/3/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hum...? Did that crash my system? Or was it just a coincidence. Got one
>> of those "if this is the first time you have seen this message restart
>> windows" things. I am not going back to see. First a full virus scan...
>>
>>
>> Perry Pellechia wrote:
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/2/07, George Sinos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 "You were a Kodak moment once, and you're going to be one again, only
 this time it's digital..."

 
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[David Mann]

On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:28 PM, graywolf wrote:

> I have been reading some stuff on an audio forum and have finally came
> to the understanding that what folks who call themselves audiophiles
> mean by HiFi is excessively loud with a rather over boosted midrange.
> They do a lot of sneering at the uninformed who think HiFi means
> excessively loud with over boosted bass. And, of course, dumb old  
> farts
> like me, always have the treble turned up way too high and can not  
> here
> the difference between those brands of wire.

I must be doing it wrong then.  I'm planning to rip my speakers to  
bits again for modification, including ditching the passive  
crossovers for a fully active setup, just to get the damn things  
sounding reasonably neutral!

Somehow I need to find that magic combination of free-time and money...

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Re: Scanning

[Adam Maas]

David Mann wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:22 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> 
>> Having spent a good part of two days on and off scanning P645
>> negatives, I'm resigned to the fact that this process is hopelessly,
>> infuriatingly tedious and unproductive. I remember now why I was so
>> happy to be done with it.
> 
> Scanning medium format is pretty tedious.  When I scan I sit aside  
> with a book as each scan takes about 15 minutes after I've finished  
> fiddling with the settings.  Later in the evening I'll process the  
> files in Photoshop with some music on.  The dICE doesn't seem to work  
> as well with 6x7 slides so the dust spotting takes a while.
> 
> 35mm isn't too bad once I get into a good workflow.  At the moment  
> I'm slowly working through a shoebox of old Kodachromes that someone  
> asked me to scan.  Those ones are driving me slightly crazy.
> 
> - Dave

Interesting. What scanner are you using? My 4490 does a 6x6 slide in 3 
minutes or so at 2400dpi once I've picked the settings (optical limits 
of the pre-V series Epson flatbeds is around 2000dpi so there's no real 
point to scanning at higher resolutions).

And Kodachrome is a royal pain to scan. One reason I avoid the stuff.

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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[Bob Sullivan]

Rob,
Yes, that is mini-you!  The match to your baby picture is amazing!
I see your son is starting to think about things.
This is a process that always amazed me.
You can see them form the intention and then take the action!
And are those his blocks and fort or your's.  ;-)
Plus the wise old man look is fun, but they grow out of it quickly.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 1/2/07, Digital Image Studio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
> no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
> life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
> refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
> together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
> anyone is interested.
>
> Warning child pictures follow:
>
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html
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Re: Scanning

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And Kodachrome is a royal pain to scan. One reason I avoid the stuff.

The problem is if your like me and scanning family photos for archival
purposes, there is no way to avoid it.

Cheers,

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[graywolf]

You probably do not think a Diana Krall CD is the ultimate system test 
music then . I have an upcoming speaker project of my own, 
replacing the tweeters, caps, and terminals. Parts are here just need to 
find the energy. That will leave the boxes and coils genuine original 
vintage KLH. However I am not a "'file", and only require my system to 
sound OK, not fabulous, not great, just OK.


David Mann wrote:
> On Jan 3, 2007, at 2:28 PM, graywolf wrote:
> 
>> I have been reading some stuff on an audio forum and have finally came
>> to the understanding that what folks who call themselves audiophiles
>> mean by HiFi is excessively loud with a rather over boosted midrange.
>> They do a lot of sneering at the uninformed who think HiFi means
>> excessively loud with over boosted bass. And, of course, dumb old  
>> farts
>> like me, always have the treble turned up way too high and can not  
>> here
>> the difference between those brands of wire.
> 
> I must be doing it wrong then.  I'm planning to rip my speakers to  
> bits again for modification, including ditching the passive  
> crossovers for a fully active setup, just to get the damn things  
> sounding reasonably neutral!
> 
> Somehow I need to find that magic combination of free-time and money...
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Scanning

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jan 2, 2007, at 5:39 PM, K.Takeshita wrote:

> Any inclination to go back to APS cartridges?
> Load it and forget it :-).

LOL ... Why bother when I have a K10D? :-)

At least scanning 645 nets a photo of about equal quality, and the  
distinctive signature of the larger format is fun to work with.

Godfrey

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Paul Sorenson]

> 
> Anyone care to share?
> 
> --

Bachelor's with a Geography major
Just short of a Masters in Vocational Education Administration

Working life includes:
Plumber
Flight Instructor/Charter Pilot
Technical College Aeronautical Technology Instructor
Technical College Department Dean
Photographer/Studio Owner
Kitchen/Bath Remodeling Contractor

Now semi-retired.  I've come full circle and work part time for a 
plumbing service company (mostly Sundays and holidays so I get 
double-time pay) and photograph a few weddings and anniversary celebrations.

Still trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up...

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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[graywolf]

 Hum...? Did that crash my system? Or was it just a 
coincidence. Got one of those "if this is the first time you have seen 
this message restart windows" things. I am not going back to see. First 
a full virus scan...

Well, AVQ scan found a threat that was not there this morning, but did 
not identify it or remove it. I guess I will have to try scanning again. 
Maybe with everything else shut down .

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Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."

[Kenneth Waller]

Good to see you branch out in your photography.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: Re: PESO -- "Another senseless hit and run..."


> Damn wrong link
>
> http://www.mindspring.com/~morephotos/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>
> Perry Pellechia wrote:
>> Looks like quite a snow storm, a total white out
>>
>> On 1/2/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Another shot from my New Years Eve outing.  I was walking along a street
>>> in Providence RI when a car jumped the curb and knocked down an innocent
>>> bystander.  It was so surprising that I wasn't prepared to capture the
>>> event but good photographer that I am I was able to capture the
>>> aftermath.  Note to the squeamish there is no gore...
>>>
>>> file:///E:/PESO-PAW/PESO_--_anothersenselesshitandrun.html
>>>
>>> Technical Data:
>>> Pentax *ist-Ds ISO 1600 @ 1/20sec (Av)
>>> smc Pentax FA 43mm f1.9 AL @ f1.9
>>> B&W conversion in Photoshop.
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Re: Question about DNG

[Boris Liberman]

Jostein,

> I use v3.1 of the Pentax software. My installation was a bit
> disorderly, since I installed the 3.1 version from the web before
> installing from the K10D CD. The downloaded version required proof of
> ownership, but the *istD CD was sufficient.
> 
> Anyway it sounds like an upgrade to v3.1 might solve your problem.

It *did not* help. We may have to ask other owners of Tamron 28-75/2.8 
XR DI lens to help me out...

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[William Robb]

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From: "graywolf" Subject: Re: OT: Occupations?


> Sorry, Ken, I should have made it clear that that was my translation of
> their five minute long summary of their findings. But if your question
> was true, the upper 50% of the population would be in real trouble.

My father in law has some weird almost unkown long slow kill ya disease. It 
was probably 7 years before they figured out what was wrong with him, and 
there isn't a treatment for it anyway.

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Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

[Joseph Tainter]

Full moon on snow, handheld: K10D at ISO 1600; A 50 F1.2; 1/8 second @ 
F1.2; shake reduction on.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21510186

Joe

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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Russell Kerstetter]

On 1/1/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone care to share?

A&P (Airframe and Powerplant), which is a fancy way of saying
'airplane mechanic', and I recently received an IA (Inspection
Authorization), which is a fancy way of saying that I have been an A&P
for three years and can pass a multiple choice test based on rote
memorization and reading comprehension.  Also, this *is* what I
studied for, and what's worse is that I went to university instead of
a much quicker and more economical tech school (it's not really worse,
it's just more fun to say it that way).  I am also a pilot with more
ratings than are good for my student loan (single-engine instrument,
multi-engine, and a tailwheel endorsement), but I haven't flown since
my instrument check-ride because I can't afford $100/hr to rent an
airplane.

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Re: PESO - Full Moon Tonight

[japilado]

Thanks for the info.  You wouldn't know there was a full moon in the sky
if you were in Portland, OR tonight,  or, perhaps,  the entire Pacific
Northwest.

Jim A.




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>
> Taken about half an hour ago, in my driveway.
>
> *istDS2, Sigma 400/5.6 manual focus, exposure and aperture in the EXIF
> info. Converted from raw in Adobe Camera Raw, with some shadow and
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> crop out of the camera, so no resizing.
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Re: OT: Occupations?

[David Savage]

On 1/3/07, Russell Kerstetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 1/1/07, Mike Hamilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone care to share?
>
> A&P (Airframe and Powerplant), which is a fancy way of saying
> 'airplane mechanic',

That's better than what they call them here, Licenced Aircraft
Maintenance Engineer.

So in Australia you'd be L.A.M.E. :-)

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Re: Winter's finger

[Bruce Dayton]

I have to agree with you somewhat.  The background was what made me
interested in the shot.  I didn't want to shoot an abstract of just
the water, and found the subject to fill nicely.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 7:17:15 PM, you wrote:

MM> This time I find the background more interesting than the main subject.
MM> greetings
MM> Markus



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MM> Subject: Winter's finger


MM> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.

MM> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
MM> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11

MM> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm

MM> Comments welcome

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Re: Winter's finger

[Bruce Dayton]

Fair enough, any comments are useful.  I appreciate your candor.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 7:03:07 PM, you wrote:

PJA> Not really sure I like it.  No real criticism, just not sure...

PJA> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
>>
>> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
>>
>> Comments welcome
>>
>>   


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Re: Winter's finger

[Bruce Dayton]

Thanks Paul, I appreciate your comments.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 7:04:11 PM, you wrote:

>> Simple, but effective. The title helps it, but it stands on its own
>> as a well composed shot.
PS> Paul
>> .
>>
>> Bruce Dayton wrote:
>>> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
>>>
>>> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
>>> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
>>>
>>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
>>>
>>> Comments welcome
>>>
>>>
>>
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>>  -- Anne Louise Germaine de Stael
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Re: Funniest Kodak commercial

[graywolf]

Found the virus on the second pass. Had nothing to do with the video. It 
was in a zip file and AVQ had not found it previously. Kind of strange, 
but it does not seem like it could have had anything to do with the 
crash. OH WELL.


graywolf wrote:
>  Hum...? Did that crash my system? Or was it just a 
> coincidence. Got one of those "if this is the first time you have seen 
> this message restart windows" things. I am not going back to see. First 
> a full virus scan...
> 
> Well, AVQ scan found a threat that was not there this morning, but did 
> not identify it or remove it. I guess I will have to try scanning again. 
> Maybe with everything else shut down .
> 

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Re: Taking Pentax Gear to the Edge

[Bruce Dayton]

Hey Joe,

That actually turned out pretty good.  It gave a real good mood and
feeling of the actual circumstances.  I rather like it.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 9:54:53 PM, you wrote:

JT> Full moon on snow, handheld: K10D at ISO 1600; A 50 F1.2; 1/8 second @
JT> F1.2; shake reduction on.

JT> http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=21510186

JT> Joe




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Re: PESO - Full Moon Tonight

[Bruce Dayton]

Yep, that there is a full moon fer sure.  It is certainly better than
any moon shot I have ever taken.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2007, 7:40:46 PM, you wrote:

MM> http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/v/tomatoe/testscans/IMGP0750-cropped.jpg.html

MM> Taken about half an hour ago, in my driveway.

MM> *istDS2, Sigma 400/5.6 manual focus, exposure and aperture in the EXIF
MM> info. Converted from raw in Adobe Camera Raw, with some shadow and
MM> contrast adjustments. Cropped and JPEGed in Photoshop. This is a 100%
MM> crop out of the camera, so no resizing.

MM> -Mat




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Re: OT: Occupations?

[Doug Franklin]

David Mann wrote:

> Somehow I need to find that magic combination of free-time and money...

I've found that lowering one's standards is infinitely cheaper. :-)

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Re: Winter's finger

[Boris Liberman]

Bruce Dayton wrote:
> Taken on a recent outing in Utah.  They do have snow there.
> 
> Pentax K10D, A 70-210/4, Handheld
> ISO 200, 1/180 sec @ f/11
> 
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/snow2006_06.htm
> 
> Comments welcome

Bruce, on my screen the snow has very slight blue/cyan tint. I haven't 
seen snow for very long time, but just in case it might help - I'd point 
this out.

Well spotted!

Boris


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Occupations

[Don Williams]

Occupation(s):

 From school --> Drawing Office/Toolroom Metal Box Company, Cape Town;
Ranching in Rhodesia for seven years; Big Game hunting safaris to make 
money; Built and customized big game rifles - also for money. 
Manufactured chambering reamers as well. Then used this money for -->
University of Cape Town 1958 - 1975 BSc Microbiology; MSc Organic 
Chemistry; PhD Electron Microscopy (Bacteriology); Lecturer in 
Microbiology; Head of Electron Microscope Laboratory -->
Medical Research Council - Director, Institute for Electron Microscopy 
1975 - 1982;
Moved to Finland 1982; University of Jyväskylä two years; Started 
Holosoft Oy, Turbosoft Oy and Borland Finland Oy; sold companies to 
Ravenholm, Denmark, in 1993.

Since then I've written a few dozen articles for Nokia, Telecom Finland 
and edited scientific publications for a couple of University 
departments. I have also examined theses; written a couple of novels; 
and still do private research in Protozoology. I sometimes take 
pictures; fell trees; ride a mountain bike whilst waiting for the day I 
shrug off these mortal coils.

This is a mess and incomplete.

D

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41660 TOIVAKKA – Finland - +358400706616


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Re: OT But vaguely related to the occupation thread

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

> My current occupation is still very new to me, I had zero training and
> no intentions of getting into this line of work but as we all know
> life delivers these little challenges from time to time. To date I've
> refrained from posting any kid pics to the list but I've just put
> together a very Q&D page of snaps captured over the last six months if
> anyone is interested.
> 
> Warning child pictures follow:
> 
> http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~distudio/temp/thomas.html

Congrats. I do wish you would start enjoying your fatherly position. But 
then again we discussed this already ;-).

Boris

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A couple of PESOs

[William Robb]

You need to like dogs for this one.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/bigtongue.html

I decided to do my own full moon picture tonight. I don't know why.
This was shot with the K10 behind the A600/5.6 and 2XL teleconverter. The 
camera was mounted to the Wimberley head on the Zone VI Standard tripod, but 
I decided to leave shake reduction on anyway.
This is a bit of a crop, but not much.
http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/recent/fullmoon.html

Have fun

William Robb 


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Re: style change

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Digital Image Studio wrote:
> Not really, I spent very little time shooting with flash on my *ist D
> and I'll continue to do so. This holiday period most of my shooting
> was done using my old *ist D as it's a far more comfortable camera for
> me which tends to make the biggest contribution to the consistency and
> quality of my low light photography.

Rob, I should mention (and admit ;-) ) that those who told me K10D will 
grow on me were right. Right now I find K10D ergonomics *absolutely* 
natural. It is slightly big but I've found certain way to grip it so 
that I definitely don't look back at *istD. *istD was truly excellent 
but K10D is at least not worse, not by the slightest bit.

Boris

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