Re: PESO- Gold
Is that a typo? (60-20)? On May 9, 2010, at 6:27 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: This isn't much of a bird photo, but it's a very nice bird. Perhaps the brightest colored goldfinch I've seen. Shot on the feeder this afternoon with the DA* 60-20. Cropped to about 1/3 of frame. Have to go back out there with the 400 and see if I can find him again. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10994711 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- Gold
I have read good things about that lens. A bit pricey, but if it will replace 3 other single-focal-length lenses, it's worth it. It looks good in the shot you took here. Jeffery On May 9, 2010, at 6:54 PM, paul stenquist wrote: On May 9, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Is that a typo? (60-20)? Yep. It was the DA* 60-250 at 250 On May 9, 2010, at 6:27 PM, P N Stenquist wrote: This isn't much of a bird photo, but it's a very nice bird. Perhaps the brightest colored goldfinch I've seen. Shot on the feeder this afternoon with the DA* 60-20. Cropped to about 1/3 of frame. Have to go back out there with the 400 and see if I can find him again. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10994711 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- Gold
I feel like you are Dilbert and I am the pointy haired boss. Shall I play along? We need to get one of those new tele to wide angle lenses. On May 10, 2010, at 2:49 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/10 Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com: Is that a typo? (60-20)? That is what I thought, too, but then I decided, hey wait a moment the smc DA* 60-20/4 has to be Pentax's new offering to both close another focal length gap in their 16-17-18-45-50-55-70 millimeter range and at the same time assure backwards compatibility with that range for the 60-250, hence the reversed notation and the special zoom-out design. Ken Rockwell praised its innovative design with dedicated focal length and focus rings instead of stupid menus. Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings. Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only wide angle to normal lenses, the GF1 is a wonderful little camera. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I worked with Leica RF cameras on and off from 1969 to 2002. I'd enjoy an M4-P again, but I know I'd never work with film enough again to warrant the expense. I'd enjoy an M8 or M9 now. Have fun with it. Although it's expensive, it's just a camera ... a darn good one with a great lens. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Amazingly, the people on the LUG who had faulty M8 bodies made excuses for the camera (as in I have no problem as long as I remove and replace the battery before every shot, or Mine sometimes requires turning off and on a dozen times before the shutter will work.). The pro photographers on the LUG got great service. The amateur photographers are treated as nobodies. I had no difficulty finding others with bad M8 samples. I googled the words M8 shutter fault when my first body crapped out, and got numerous hits. When the second one had memory card problems, I had no trouble finding the fix, i.e., remove and replace the battery before every shot. Some of those who claim to never have had a problem are the same ones to say that when their M8/M9 died, the customer service was wonderful. How would they know that unless they had to return it. I have never had a Pentax that died on me, and I have had five Pentax film cameras and now five Pentax digital cameras. And if a Pentax had died, it would not be something that kept me awake at night for weeks at a time. There is no worse feeling than paying off a $4,000 debt on a Visa for a non-functioning camera that is sitting in a drawer. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Tom C wrote: Makes Pentax sound wonderful by comparison. But surely the problem was not limited to Jeffrey's camera, so there's somewhat of a disconnect for me. Wouldn't just about every (or certainly many) Leica owner(s) that paid $6K for their tool be up in arms? On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffery, Well thats a word or two to the wise... Saves me a lot of money. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings. Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only wide angle to normal lenses, the GF1 is a wonderful little camera. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I worked with Leica RF cameras on and off from 1969 to 2002. I'd enjoy an M4-P again, but I know I'd never work with film enough again to warrant the expense. I'd enjoy an M8 or M9 now. Have fun with it. Although it's expensive, it's just a camera ... a darn good one with a great lens. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions
Re: Leica M9
I think that Leica was at a crossroads due to digital catching on among pros. They obviously felt that they waited too long to enter the digital world and were making up for lost time (and revenue). It would not have been so much of a problem had they owned up to the problems and fixed them quickly and quietly. I do think they were overwhelmed by the large number of returns of defective cameras, and Leica USA chose to simply ignore non-professionals (after all, an oil spill that damages a commercial fisherman is much more of a problem than an oil spill that damages a weekend fisherman). But I spent the same amount of money and had the same warranty. Perhaps I should have created some fake letterhead stationary when writing to them. Tony Rose of popflash has told me that he will intervene on my behalf if I have future problems with the M8, but I simply stopped using it. I do appreciate Tony's help, as I didn't buy the camera from him. I have been told that the fellow who ignored all of my phone calls and emails at Leica USA has been reassigned to other duties, so I obviously wasn't the only amateur shooter who was ignored when his camera died after a week. So, things may be better at Leica USA now, but I'll never buy another Leica product as long as I live (and I have sunk over $25,000 into that company over the years). After the 50th time you are told He just stepped away from his desk, you know what it is to be treated like an untouchable. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 10:05 AM, Tom C wrote: Wow... Thanks. So it seems they totally dropped the ball. What's hard to comprehend is how the camera made it through QA with such a crippling defect. It sounds to me like little QA or a very very defective test plan. Or as sometimes happens in the software world, people at lower levels realize there are problems but because management is determined to meet a farcical release date and at the same time has created an environment in which people fear to speak up, plans go forward and management ends up with the mess they deserve. Tom C. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 18, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tom C wrote: Makes Pentax sound wonderful by comparison. But surely the problem was not limited to Jeffrey's camera, so there's somewhat of a disconnect for me. Wouldn't just about every (or certainly many) Leica owner(s) that paid $6K for their tool be up in arms? Many M8 owners were up in arms. A pro shooter friend of mine who had used Leica film cameras for years bought an M8. He struggled with it for a few months, then sold it. Apparently, the M9 is a much better camera, but Leica definitely damaged its reputation with the M8. Paul On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffery, Well thats a word or two to the wise... Saves me a lot of money. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings. Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only wide angle to normal lenses
Re: Leica M9
Like green ghosting? Like the need to put an expensive UV/IR filter on any lens you plan to use on the M8? And the outrageous prices they were charging to upgrade the lenses with some black stripes painted on the base so the camera would recognize the lens you were using? On May 18, 2010, at 10:18 AM, Adam Maas wrote: It's pretty clear that Leica shipped a camera with known fatal flaws with the M8. Some of the flaws have been solved, others have not and cannot be. The interesting thing is how Leica handled reviews of the M8 on introduction, there were some severe fireworks over Leica taking offense to reviewers stating the obvious. -Adam On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... Thanks. So it seems they totally dropped the ball. What's hard to comprehend is how the camera made it through QA with such a crippling defect. It sounds to me like little QA or a very very defective test plan. Or as sometimes happens in the software world, people at lower levels realize there are problems but because management is determined to meet a farcical release date and at the same time has created an environment in which people fear to speak up, plans go forward and management ends up with the mess they deserve. Tom C. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 18, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Tom C wrote: Makes Pentax sound wonderful by comparison. But surely the problem was not limited to Jeffrey's camera, so there's somewhat of a disconnect for me. Wouldn't just about every (or certainly many) Leica owner(s) that paid $6K for their tool be up in arms? Many M8 owners were up in arms. A pro shooter friend of mine who had used Leica film cameras for years bought an M8. He struggled with it for a few months, then sold it. Apparently, the M9 is a much better camera, but Leica definitely damaged its reputation with the M8. Paul On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffery, Well thats a word or two to the wise... Saves me a lot of money. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Pro photographers and photographers wealthy enough to afford an attorney get good service from Leica USA. Grunts like myself (a teacher) aren't given the time of day. I have refrained from mentioning my problems on the LUG except when a pro photographer posts a message saying that Leica customer service is absolutely the best. I then mention the problems I had and get my ass flamed as a heretic. I finally unsubscribed from the LUG as it became less and less a forum about photography. The die hard photojournalist types on the LUG now post incessant photos of their dog, their flowers, or buildings. Leica film rangefinders are great, and reliable. Leica doesn't seem to know anything whatsoever about digital cameras. If you want a digital camera with a Leica lens, buy a Panasonic! They are great! If you can live with only wide angle to normal lenses, the GF1 is a wonderful little camera. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 8:22 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I worked with Leica RF cameras on and off from 1969 to 2002. I'd enjoy an M4-P again, but I know I'd never work with film enough again to warrant the expense. I'd enjoy an M8 or M9 now. Have fun with it. Although it's expensive, it's just a camera ... a darn good one with a great lens. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
Re: Leica M9
Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died. On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or direct from Leica USA? If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one that wouldn't work at all from the get-go. The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for making good. I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye while I'm yelling at him. I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and got it sorted out for me. I would, and have bought from them since then ... when I couldn't find what I wanted locally. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
Do they have that written somewhere? I think that the early problems with the
M8 were probably abundantly obvious to BH at the time. It certainly was well
documented on the web that many cameras were breaking down very quickly. There
is an adage that you should never buy the first version of anything, and that
seems to have applied to the M8.
On May 18, 2010, at 1:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a
couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead
after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy.
On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8.
I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead
on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died.
On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Jeffery Smith
I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but
my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a
week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I
finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you
aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer
service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not
recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory
cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every
different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site,
and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery,
waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which
apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I
wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned
itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new
firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The
firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem.
Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or
direct from Leica USA?
If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I
bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one
that wouldn't work at all from the get-go.
The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they
don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for
making good.
I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES
go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye
while I'm yelling at him.
I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a
problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the
difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer
me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem
and got it sorted out for me.
I would, and have bought from them since then ... when I couldn't find what
I wanted locally.
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Re: Leica M9
That's why I'm using a K-7 instead of an M8. :-)
Jeffery
On May 18, 2010, at 1:40 PM, eckinator wrote:
We're talking about a spilled milk issue though, aren't we? I doubt
you could even do so much as sue them and win now =(
Cheers
Ecke
2010/5/18 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com:
BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a
couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead
after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy.
On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the
M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive
dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died.
On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
From: Jeffery Smith
I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but
my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a
week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I
finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you
aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer
service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not
recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory
cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every
different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site,
and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery,
waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which
apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I
wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned
itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new
firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The
firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem.
Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or
direct from Leica USA?
If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever
I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one
that wouldn't work at all from the get-go.
The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they
don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for
making good.
I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES
go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye
while I'm yelling at him.
I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a
problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the
difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer
me)
across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and
got it sorted out for me.
I would, and have bought from them since then ... when I couldn't find
what I wanted locally.
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Re: Leica M9
I bought an Epson 2000P printer soon after they came out. It arrived DOA. I contacted Adorama.com (where I bought it), and they gave me a long list of pedestrian things to do that stretched out for several days (such as make sure that it is plugged in, that I'm not in the middle of a blackout, that there is ink in the cartridge). When they had delayed me for enough days, they told me that I missed the opportunity to return it...the maximum number of days had transpired. They were counting the number of days since the purchase day (on-line), which of course was about 6 days before I received it. So Epson sent me a refurb. It's pretty hard to hardball them when they are 1,000 miles away, so I try to buy most things locally. Unfortunately, when what you are looking for is something other than a Canon Rebel, you have to order from out of state. On May 18, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob W wrote: Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I mean, for a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after a week or so is disgraceful. Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk. It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said 'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll refund you in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to remove all personal data, and they were fine with that. Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in Europe to do this. Bob They do have it written somewhere. In fact I think it was included with the documentation I received when I bought my K20D. I made sure that I'd have no problems if it proved unsuitable, or DOA, as I needed it for an assignment. On 5/18/2010 2:40 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Do they have that written somewhere? I think that the early problems with the M8 were probably abundantly obvious to BH at the time. It certainly was well documented on the web that many cameras were breaking down very quickly. There is an adage that you should never buy the first version of anything, and that seems to have applied to the M8. On May 18, 2010, at 1:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy. On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died. On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or direct from Leica USA? If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one that wouldn't work at all from the get-go. The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for making good. I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye while I'm yelling at him. I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and got it sorted out for me. I would
Re: Pentax 645D apparently introduced in Canada
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Re: Leica M9
I bought an Epson 2000P printer soon after they came out. It arrived DOA. I contacted Adorama.com (where I bought it), and they gave me a long list of moronic things to do that stretched out for several days (such as make sure that it is plugged in, that I'm not in the middle of a blackout, that there is ink in the cartridge). When they had delayed me for enough days, they told me that I missed the opportunity to return it...the maximum number of days had transpired. They were counting the number of days since the purchase, which of course was about 6 days before I received it. So Epson sent me a refurb. It's pretty hard to hardball them when they are 1,000 miles away, so I try to buy most things locally. Unfortunately, when what you are looking for is something other than a Canon Rebel, you have to order from out of state. On May 18, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob W wrote: Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I mean, for a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after a week or so is disgraceful. Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk. It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said 'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll refund you in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to remove all personal data, and they were fine with that. Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in Europe to do this. Bob They do have it written somewhere. In fact I think it was included with the documentation I received when I bought my K20D. I made sure that I'd have no problems if it proved unsuitable, or DOA, as I needed it for an assignment. On 5/18/2010 2:40 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Do they have that written somewhere? I think that the early problems with the M8 were probably abundantly obvious to BH at the time. It certainly was well documented on the web that many cameras were breaking down very quickly. There is an adage that you should never buy the first version of anything, and that seems to have applied to the M8. On May 18, 2010, at 1:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy. On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died. On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or direct from Leica USA? If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one that wouldn't work at all from the get-go. The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for making good. I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye while I'm yelling at him. I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and got it sorted out for me. I would, and have bought from
Re: Leica M9
I have only had a few problems with Amazon.com. I ordered some reading material after getting stranded in Houston right after Katrina. When I moved back to NOLA in October, it was a bitch getting my shipping addressed changed back to New Orleans. There was no shipping of anything to New Orleans by USPS or UPS for a while, and getting Amazon to ship it to me in New Orleans was all but impossible. To make matters worse, they continued to ship everything to the Houston motel. The other problem was ordering something that was supposed to arrive in one day. I ordered next-day delivery, and they shipped it 2-3 day with the idea that it would probably arrive the next day. It did, but I didn't think I should have to pay for next day when they sent it 2-3 day delivery. Their attitude was what's the difference...you got it in one day. Since then, their customer service has been much better, and I get everything I order 2-day delivery for free. Jeffery On May 18, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: Bob W wrote: Not quite, under the law they have three repair attempts per any single defect before they have to take anything back. amazon are doing this of their own volition, leveraging above market standard service to generate more volume at above market prices. their service reputation is a large part of their business model imvho. I buy the vast majority of my non-consumables and non-eBay-steals from amazon because they never give me any trouble whatsoever if something fails -my Panasonic DMC-TZ5 did a while ago and they even suggested I should send it to them for full refund and a chance to buy a better camera with that money instead of having it repaired and returned by Panasonic. Even compared to amazon Marketplace I always end up paying slightly more. They don't compete down to the last penny. But it is money well spent every time their service goes that extra mile. This is the first time I've ever had to return anything to Amazon. I started buying from them before they had a .co.uk, and shortly after they started in the US, so that's a lot of things I've bought from them. Since hearing about my forthcoming redundancy I did a forensic examination of my spending and I'm quite horrified at how much money I've pushed through Amazon. When they were first trading they used to send me little gifts from time to time as a thankyou! Bob The longer I buy from (spend money with) Amazon, the more impressed at their overall attitude toward their customers... I have no compunction whatsoever toward placing my money with Amazon, no matter WHAT it is... I have never been disappointed, in any aspect. keith whaley -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax 645D apparently introduced in Canada
For $10K, I'm not sure that it comes with a lens. That will cost you $1.1K more. On May 18, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Let's see...where'd I put that 10 grand I've been saving for emergencies. This is an emergency, isn't it? -p On 5/18/2010 2:56 PM, AlunFoto wrote: Youtube flick: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd1V58LsKtcfeature=player_embedded No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2881 - Release Date: 05/18/10 01:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Leica M9
I bought an Epson 2000P printer soon after they came out. It arrived DOA. I contacted Adorama.com (where I bought it), and they gave me a long list of moronic things to do that stretched out for several days (such as make sure that it is plugged in, that I'm not in the middle of a blackout, that there is ink in the cartridge). When they had delayed me for enough days, they told me that I missed the opportunity to return it...the maximum number of days had transpired. They were counting the number of days since the purchase, which of course was about 6 days before I received it. So Epson sent me a refurb. It's pretty hard to hardball them when they are 1,000 miles away, so I try to buy most things locally. Unfortunately, when what you are looking for is something other than a Canon Rebel, you have to order from out of state. On May 18, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Bob W wrote: Don't you have any kind of consumer protection over there? I mean, for a retailer to be allowed to turn away a faulty product after a week or so is disgraceful. Last August - 10 months ago - I bought a netbook from amazon.co.uk. It's been heavily used since then, on a daily basis. Last week it stopped working and today I found out it's a problem with the motherboard, so I phoned Amazon, told them the problem and they said 'ok, send it back. That model's no longer available so we'll refund you in full'. I told them I was going to wipe the hard disk first, to remove all personal data, and they were fine with that. Great service, but they are in any case obliged by law in Europe to do this. Bob They do have it written somewhere. In fact I think it was included with the documentation I received when I bought my K20D. I made sure that I'd have no problems if it proved unsuitable, or DOA, as I needed it for an assignment. On 5/18/2010 2:40 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Do they have that written somewhere? I think that the early problems with the M8 were probably abundantly obvious to BH at the time. It certainly was well documented on the web that many cameras were breaking down very quickly. There is an adage that you should never buy the first version of anything, and that seems to have applied to the M8. On May 18, 2010, at 1:25 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: BH photo gives you a week or so, (I can't remember how long exactly), and a couple hundred exposures before giving you a problem with a return. Dead after 20 exposures, is well within that return policy. On 5/18/2010 2:12 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Post Katrina there were no places in this part of the state stocking the M8. I bought it from BH and was referred to Leica since it did not arrive dead on arrival. It took about 20 exposures before it died. On May 18, 2010, at 12:51 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith I got flamed on the Leica Users Group forum for mentioning this, but my M8's were anything but reliable. My first one died after about a week, and Leica ignored all of my phone calls and emails until I finally contacted the president of the company personally. If you aren't a professional photographer, you can forget about customer service from Leica. You don't exist. The second M8 body would not recognize any of the memory cards I used. Leica blamed the memory cards and refused to repair or replace the camera. I bought every different brand of memory card listed as compatible on Leica's site, and all gave me a no memory card error until I removed the battery, waited a few minutes, and then reinserted the battery (which apparently rebooted the camera). I had to repeat this every time I wanted to shoot a frame. Once the camera was turned off or turned itself off, the no memory card error reappeared. Until a new firmware upgrade appeared last year, the M8 just sat in a drawer. The firmware upgrade seems to have fixed the memory card problem. Who did you buy the camera from? I mean, NYC mail-order, local dealer or direct from Leica USA? If I bought a camera that only worked for a week, I'd start with whoever I bought it from, and put the onus on them to make it right. Same for one that wouldn't work at all from the get-go. The dealer should have more leverage with the manufacturer, and if they don't it's still not MY problem. They sold it, they're responsible for making good. I prefer to deal locally whenever I can, simply because if something DOES go wrong, I get more stress relief if there's someone I can look in the eye while I'm yelling at him. I had some problems one time with a major NYC mail-order house getting a problem fixed, but in retrospect the problem had more to do with the difficulties of trying to communicate three ways (dealer, manufacturer me) across 9 time zones by email. They did finally understood the problem and got it sorted out for me. I would, and have bought from
Introduction
Greetings, I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday. I hope to be an asset on this forum. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
I looked at the new Sony FF dSLR, and wasn't impressed by the specs in light of the fact that its normal (50mm) lens is decidedly sub-par compared to the competition. Another concern about FF dSLR is their performance when coupled with lenses originally designed for digital use (which may be optimized for the middle of the frame, but may be pretty poor near the edges of a full frame). Finally, I'm more than happy having my 300mm Pentax lens experiencing a crop factor that makes it seem more like a 450mm lens. Sure beats lugging around a 40mm lens. I do wish that Pentax had kept the *ist dSLR size instead of getting bigger and bigger. The K-7 is really built like a tank, but it is more of a chore to carry than the *ist with a 40mm pancake. Jeffery Miserere wrote: On 29 April 2010 09:22, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: IMO, they need to come out with a full spec pro body that at least competes with a Canon EOS 5D MKII, or even better a Nikon D3X. Tom C. The problem I see, Tom, is that if Pentax do that, they cannot also have a high-end APS-C body out at the same time. I've written this a number of times, but I'll say it again: Pentax is not Nikon, who can have a D300 and D700 out at the same time. If Pentax go FF, they'll have a single FF body, and it will be the top of the line. Below it will be 2 APS-C bodies: A K-x type entry level, and a K200D type mid level. If there were a $1,000-$1,300 top-tier APS-C body, nobody would buy the $2,000 FF body, or at least not in significant numbers to break even.. How would this affect current Pentax users? Sure, a small number would migrate to the FF body, but many like myself would be left without an upgrade path. If Pentax don't release top-tier APS-C bodies, I will probably leave the brand. Unless the FF body is K-7 sized and $1,500, I probably won't consider it. I'm not alone in feeling like this either. With APS-C sensors reaching such good high-ISO performance levels, the case for FF grows weaker with every new sensor released. Using my lenses at the FoV they were intended for is not a reason to go FF as far as I'm concerned, and certainly not as far as the camera companies are concerned, because they want to sell *new* lenses. The time to go FF for camera companies was either no later than 2 years ago (when the low light advantage was there without a doubt), or 3-5 years from now (when prices for FF sensors drop low enough that it makes sense to stick them in almost every camera). But right now we're in a no-man's land for FF: APS-C sensors are starting to perform really well in low light (Pentax K-x, Canon 7D), they're also delivering 14-17MP without problems and will likely reach 20MP soon, not to mention the dynamic range advantage of FF is either gone or disappearing. And APS-C does this at less than half the cost of a FF sensor. I really didn't want to get into a FF vs APS-C debate, because I've found most people treat FF as a religion, which means reason is persona non grata most of the time. Please ignore my post and continue with your regularly scheduled pun thread :-) --M. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Introduction
I actually did pick up some screw mount M42 lenses that I had yearned for as a teenager (like the 50/1.4 with the rare earth element) and a few wides. I picked up a Voigtlander (Cosina) screw mount body to use them. It sure doesn't fare well compared to the old Spotmatic or K1000, but does have a pretty good viewfinder. I have read nothing but good about the 31/1.8 lens. I hope to put it through its paces this weekend. I usually test drive a lens by taking a trip to the zoo. Lots of unusual sights on both sides of the bars. Does the group have a place where you post pictures, or do you mainly use your own web sites or blogs? And thank you all for the kind welcomes! Jeffery On Apr 29, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Welcome Jeffery, You're gonna love the 31 Limited on the K-7. A bunch of us here have been with Pentax for a long time. I started with an ME and M-lenses, then worked back to screw-mount. Then these guys showed me what fun digital was. Hold onto your wallet! Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday. I hope to be an asset on this forum. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Introduction
I've got a couple of 6x7 cameras (Mamiya, Fuji), but the loss of nearly all C41 labs down here and the dust problem (when souping my own) has left me pretty much digitally-inclined. I'll mind my Ps and Qs. ;-) Jeffery David J Brooks wrote: Welcome aboard Jeffery. I've been shooting Pentax since 1971 and now shoot with Nikon (2001) and Pentax (2004) digital equipment. I kept my 6x7 for when every one comes to their senses. Dave Brooks PS I'm in charge of spelling here, so if you need help. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday. I hope to be an asset on this forum. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Introduction
Thanks for the links. Do any of you write reviews of the equipment you've worked with? Jeffery John Sessoms wrote: There's always the PDML PUG ... Submissions page: http://www.pdmlpug.org/ Current Pentax Users Gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/ From: Bob Sullivan Jeffery, I post my pictures on photo.net or picasa. http://photo.net/photos/bsullivan http://picasaweb.google.com/rf.sullivan Others use flicker or their own sites. Regards, Bob S. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I actually did pick up some screw mount M42 lenses that I had yearned for as a teenager (like the 50/1.4 with the rare earth element) and a few wides. I picked up a Voigtlander (Cosina) screw mount body to use them. It sure doesn't fare well compared to the old Spotmatic or K1000, but does have a pretty good viewfinder. I have read nothing but good about the 31/1.8 lens. I hope to put it through its paces this weekend. I usually test drive a lens by taking a trip to the zoo. Lots of unusual sights on both sides of the bars. Does the group have a place where you post pictures, or do you mainly use your own web sites or blogs? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
My concern with the Sony was the weak performance wide open, which is sort of counterproductive for a fast lens. Dpreview is the only review I have seen of it. They did feel that it was comparable to the others, when stopped down. The problems with it seem to be exacerbated when using a full frame digital From Dpreview Having reviewed four other 50mm F1.4 lenses of similar design over the past few months, we weren't expecting any major surprises from the Sony version. And in broad terms it's not hugely different from its Canon, Nikon and Pentax equivalents; as befits a quality prime it gives excellent image quality when stopped down, but struggles somewhat when used wide open, showing common problems such as corner softness, halation, bokeh chromatic aberration, and vignetting on full frame. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at the new Sony FF dSLR, and wasn't impressed by the specs in light of the fact that its normal (50mm) lens is decidedly sub-par compared to the competition. Jeffery The Sony 50/1.4 is as good as the Canon or Nikon 50/1.4's and almost as good as the FA 50/1.4 (which is IMHO the best of the 1st party 50/1.4's). Sony's 50/2.8 Macro is pretty much best in class for a 1st party normal macro. Their only weak spot for normals is the lack of a FF budget 50mm, which they share with Pentax (as neither currently makes their older 50/1.7 designs). While a lot of Sony types like to complain about the lack of a Zeiss ZA 50, there's nothing wrong with the current option other than it doesn't render similarly to the popular ZA primes. The best 50/1.4's on the market today are the Zeiss Planar (available in K, F and EF mounts, but not A mount) and the Sigma 50/1.4 HSM (available in all common mounts). -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
Wooo! I like it here. And I don't disagree with anyone. But after 10 years on the Leica Users Group where anything un-Leica is prone to get one tarred and feathered, I like to see these opinions. It's like I'm re-discovering freedom of speech! Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
My ability to word process was never faster than when I used XyWrite II+ on MSDOS. The entire program fit on one floppy disk and loaded itself completely into memory. I think my efficiency was cut by about 50% with the advent of Windows. Prettier and more fun, but slower and much, much more likely to crash. Jeffery On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: CheekyGeek On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Apple is very good at making it easy to do the things that they think you should do. It can be very challenging however if you think differently. While this is a fairly obvious troll line, I must respectfully disagree. Anyone who lived through (and with) the popularization of computers among the masses must remember what it was like to learn DOS and to be fumbling through a manual to learn the cryptic command that one must type (without syntax errors) to accomplish ANYTHING before the Macintosh. In contrast, upon seeing the first Macintosh running in an Office supply store without knowing anything at all about it, one could walk up... grab the single button mouse (which I had never seen before) and it was immediately OBVIOUS what one would do with it. Click, select, drag. One could easily learn to use both applications MacWrite and MacPaint without ever cracking a book. It was a paradigm changer: a computer which worked virtually as you thought it should. I don't consider it such a obvious troll line. Learning to deal with a command line wasn't that hard. It was a bigger deal regaining speed when the GUIs took over. What I used to be able to do with just a few typed commands now took a lot longer opening and clicking menus. Especially with the overhead of painting the screen. -- Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Pentax K-x - What say you?
While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who might want a bit better digital camera, what is the verdict on the Pentax K-x? Does anyone on the forum have and use one? Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Larry and Adam, thanks for the replies. I'm very glad to hear about the low light capabilities. I have been using rangefinders primarily for the past 10 years because lack of mirror flap and fast lens availability made low light work possible (at least with film). I have followed Fuji reviews for about 5 years because of their famed low noise at low light levels, but didn't want to switch to the Nikon lens format. The Pentax K-x is priced about the same as a digicam, and I have several fast lenses (Sigma 30/1.4 and Pentax 50/1.4) that I could put to good use on the K-x. The combination of the Sigma 30/1.4 and the K-x is sounding very good it me right now for indoor work. Thanks again, Jeffery On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Adam Maas wrote: On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who might want a bit better digital camera, what is the verdict on the Pentax K-x? Does anyone on the forum have and use one? Jeffery Smith Several of us have them and by and large we're happy with them. I've been using one for a few months now and overall I'm very impressed by them. I do a lot of low-light work and simply put, the K-x is the best APS-C format camera with regards to high ISO performance (note I've. It's also nice and small and quite responsive. The only real weakness I've found is the metering, the K-x retains the older 16 zone meter which isn't all that reliable. The AF point issue (No AF point illumination in the viewfinder) isn't a problem for me as I simply locked the camera down to the centre point and leave it there, just like every other AF Pentax I've had. Overall, it's a whole lot of camera for the money, but it does have its limitations, primarily the basic build quality, small buffer,AA batteries (Battery life is pitiful compared to the D300 I used to have), no grip, no support for a remote release and poor Live View implementation. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Did you shoot in RAW mode? That seems to make a world of difference noise-wise in some cameras. Jeffery On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote: Well, you would have to determine what factors are most important to you. As far as low light goes, it is the best Pentax body and possibly the best APS-C body from any maker. As far as size and ergonomics, it is great. Now, does it compare to the K20D or K7 when it comes to things like robust body, weather sealing, more specific options? Probably not. It is a generation ahead of the K20D so I find the AF to be a little better than the K20, probably not far from the K7. You will need to tell us more of what is important to you. I can say that it has changed some of my shooting style and thinking because of the high ISO ability. You can dial up the ISO and get great shots. Here is an ISO 1600 shot - no post processing other than sizing down for web: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkdphoto-00063.htm Highly recommended camera for the money. If I could only have/use one body between my K-x and K20D, it would be the K-x. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:15:38 PM, you wrote: JS While it is apparently marketed toward the average Joe/Jane who JS might want a bit better digital camera, what is the verdict on JS the Pentax K-x? Does anyone on the forum have and use one? JS Jeffery Smith JS New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog
There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your diner blog. I like it. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Introduction
I'm used to digressing threads, though I rarely witness a Mac versus Windows battle any more. I use a Mac most of the time because I like the software available for it. It also allows me to very quickly filter all posts with the word Mac in them so I can drag and drop them to the trash can. I hope there was no Pentax content in them. And cute kids photos can be more challenging than landscape. The subjects are easier to find, but harder to photograph. I'm happy to see that I'm not the only geezer here. I'll be hitting 60 in three week. Scary. Jeffery On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Tanya Love wrote: Erm, welcome Jeffery! Do you receive the list emails or the digress, erm, digest? You will soon learn that this list is as much a battle of wits as it is a battle of Pentax enablement. Btw, I am Tanya, aka, fairygirl. I am one of the few roses amongst the thorns, and also the baby of the bunch (I think? I may have lost that title now though, as I am getting a bit long in the tooth these days). Don't ask me why I have this weird habit of hanging out with a bunch of geeky old farts, but alas, here I am. Btw, don't believe anything that Cotty tells you. Just thought I'd repost what he'd already said, in case you didn't believe him. :) I've met him in true life, and truly, he is NOT to be trusted! I do love him though! :) Oh, and don't trust anyone on the list who happens to be Welsh, plays really good guitar and makes a habit of taking really good hummingbird photos either! :) Oh, and when you hear of references to tattoos and medical photos in relation to me, ignore those too, it's all just some manufactured fairytale that Bill Robb concocted. I am an Aussie, and I use Pentax too, but I take photos of cute kids, and I totally suck at the nature and landscape stuff that most of the guys here tend to favour. I am also here to prove that Pentax CAN be used by pro photographers. Lastly, don't post ANYTHING unless you are prepared for your thread to be hi-jacked with nonsensical drival, such as that displayed below! Tan.x. -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 5:34 AM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: RE: Introduction There's always the PDML PUG ... Technically, it's just the PUG. That may be technically true, but if you just Google PUG you end up with a lot of pictures of small yappy dogs... 1) That is a Google issue. 2) Pugs are not yappy dogs. Pug is also a bar/restaurant in Chiswick, London. I posted a photo from there many years ago. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2000/dec/02/restaurants.restaurants It is so named because Hogarth lived in Chiswick and across the road from the restaurant there is a statue of him and his yappy dog. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog
Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again. Jeffery On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Thanks, Jeffery. Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans? From the outside it looks like a miniature southern plantation house. Inside, its pure Jersey diner. It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear. Dan On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your diner blog. I like it. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own. Jeffery On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote: 2010/5/1 William Robb war...@gmail.com: Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one. The what? Stick with ballparks. There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-) I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO 6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7. Jostein -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Introduction
Hi Boris, it has been a long time since I saw your name. Perhaps you were/are on one of Stephen Gandy's forums? Jeffery On May 1, 2010, at 12:32 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi, Jeffery. But I am thinking we're been introduced before, on another list. I am glad you came about to owning fine Pentax gear. Thus, I should be looking forward to your pictures. Boris On 4/29/2010 7:27 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Greetings, I'm a newbie on the forum. Have been using Pentax off an on since buying my first Pentax Spotmatic back in 1968. Made a regrettable change to Nikon in the mid-70s and found the bodies to be a bit more prone to breaking than my Pentax). I now have both film type and digital Pentaxes, including a K-7 w/ 31/1.8 that just arrived yesterday. I hope to be an asset on this forum. Jeffery Smith New Orleans, LA -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Figures.
On May 1, 2010, at 10:08 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored
body with the zoom lens?
Marketing.
On 5/1/2010 11:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored
body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is
really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
Jeffery
On May 1, 2010, at 3:56 AM, AlunFoto wrote:
2010/5/1 William Robbwar...@gmail.com:
Pentax knocked one out of the hockey court with this one.
The what?
Stick with ballparks.
There's a par for every course, isn't there? :-)
I have only played with a K-x for a couple of hours, but it seems like
a very nice little camera. I got a decent picture of auroras at ISO
6400 (30s exposure at f/8), the noise is visible but far from
overwhelming. Would be very tempted if I didn't already have K-7.
Jostein
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Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog
Was there a camera store (Moldaner's) about 100 feet away from Camellia Grill? That is the only photography shop left in New Orleans (the city of) since the storm. It has since moved closer to Tulane University, replacing Maple Street Camera (the second to last photography shop in the city). I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see what has become of it since the oil spill (which is now the size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs down there don't want any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two days ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in Venice. Rough times for photographers since it is now so easy to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen as a threat. Jeffery On May 1, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: The Camilla Grill was open two years ago when I was down there with my wife, who was attending a science teachers' convention. While she was at a session, I took the St Charles Street trolley out to Camilla for breakfast, The ride through the Garden District was a real joy. Once inside, the Camilla was just like a Jersey diner. They don't even serve beignets! Dan On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Camillia Grill is famous for their waffles as well as a hamburger with raw meat in it (the cannibal). You hit the nail on the head regarding its appearance. It had closed after Katrina (when we were having to pay $15/hour for dishwashers down here), but I think it's up and running again. Jeffery On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Thanks, Jeffery. Are you familiar with the Camillia in New Orleans? From the outside it looks like a miniature southern plantation house. Inside, its pure Jersey diner. It is a well-know institution there, from what I hear. Dan On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: There is an 80-mile stretch of old highway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge that is called Airline Highway. Your photos really remind me of the diners that dotted that pre-freeway stretch of highway, sort of like a shorter Route-66. I'll try to take some time this weekend to go through your diner blog. I like it. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog
South of New Orleans, human rights tend to be optional. The refineries don't want any negative publicity, and since the sheriff is an elected position, they do whatever the refineries ask. Jeffery On May 1, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Bob W wrote: I was hoping to drive down to the south shore line to see what has become of it since the oil spill (which is now the size of Puerto Rico), but the sheriffs down there don't want any pictures taken. A fellow biology professor tried two days ago and they ran her out. They ran me out several years ago for trying to photograph herons near an oil refinery in Venice. Rough times for photographers since it is now so easy to post images on the web. Anyone with a camera is seen as a threat. What are they worried about? Aren't these public places, and don't people have a right to know about the destruction the oil leak is causing? Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
Mac has some software available for it that Windows cannot touch. That is one of the reasons for my moving to Mac. And it boots up and connects to drives, the web, etc. in about 45 seconds. My fast Dell takes about 15 minutes to get past all of the not responding issues before it will actually function. For people in the business world, Windows rules. For people who are writers, academics, or otherwise right brained, the Mac fills some serious voids that Windows doesn't even address. Like most of the software from Devon Technologies and other information managers. Jeffery P.S. - can we change the subject line to Mac versus Windows? That poor K-7 has been out of the mix for several days, and it deserves better. ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-7 replacement?
Vista. I looks like it is ready after about 45 seconds, but trying to start an application will only get you a program not responding or some similar sort of error message along the top of the screen. On May 2, 2010, at 7:19 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/2 Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca: My HP Laptop takes about 2 minutes to boot fully, from sleep it's 30-45 seconds. My fastest booting Mac is slower (but is a G4). Sounds like XP, or worse Vista? On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Mac [...] boots up and connects to drives, the web, etc. in about 45 seconds. My fast Dell takes about 15 minutes to get past all of the not responding issues before it will actually function. Sounds like your system is all messed up - not responding is not default Windows behaviour =P I've yet to switch to Mac but have to give it to M$ that with Win7 they've for the first time since 2000 Pro (and before) put an OS in my hands that is actually fast and stable and clean. I am super happy with it and since they've split it into chunks that are loaded as needed both startup and running are quite fast plus it works well on older hardware. My ex-XP Lenovo T61 runs faster under 7 than it ever did under XP. Vista RC1 had despite 2 GB of RAM and a reasonably fast CPU for all practical purposes brought it to its knees, mind you. So if you're unhappy with Windows, you may actually want to try an upgrade on your old hardware. Just make sure you have a version which includes the XP Virtual Machine so that you can run all legacy software. *end shameless plug* Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: POTY
Good find! On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote: I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent photojournalism: http://www.poyi.org/67/winners.php Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: POTY - nature shot from Louisiana
http://www.poyi.org/67/01/02.php I didn't define what I meant by shot. Jeffery On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote: I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent photojournalism: http://www.poyi.org/67/winners.php Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Please comment on my Diner Blog
I've had a chance to peruse the Diner Blog this weekend. I very much like the subject matter, and it is nice to be able to click on the images to get them large on the monitor. My only suggestion (and this is very minor and pretty much just my taste) might be to try a thin border around each photo to offset it a bit from the background of the blog. A thin black line might do it. In PS, that is pretty much just making the canvas size a bit bigger and making the overlap black instead of white. I was going to go out and shoot some of the old places on Airline Highway this afternoon after church, but the President is in town to view the oil spill and the freeways were blocked off. It would have been a good day for the shooting as it is totally overcast (no harsh shadows). I look forward to seeing more of the diners, especially the schlocky ones made from cabooses, etc. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Actually, it isn't bad. I didn't see anything that flew out at me as poor optics. I'll give mine a whirl when it arrives. Jeffery On May 2, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I used the kit lens on my K-x once, to see how it worked. Most of the IMGP shots in this set were shot with it: http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623732458488/ For a kit lens, it doesn't suck. Apart from my DA40 it might also be my lightest lens. Which has some benefits. On May 1, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Does anyone know why the body only in black is more expensive than a colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own. Jeffery -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax K-x - What say you?
Oh dear, my iMac is not having a problem with it.
Here we go again ;-)
Jeffery
On May 2, 2010, at 4:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
For some reason this flacker link is causing my system to reboot. (Win2K
SP4, Firefox 3.6.3), I tried it three times, three reboots. I'll only hit
myself on the head with a hammer so many times.
On 5/2/2010 4:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
I used the kit lens on my K-x once, to see how it worked. Most of the IMGP
shots in this set were shot with it:
http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157623732458488/
For a kit lens, it doesn't suck. Apart from my DA40 it might also be my
lightest lens. Which has some benefits.
On May 1, 2010, at 8:02 AM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
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colored body with the zoom lens? I would prefer not to buy the kit lens as
it is really not a good substitute for either of the zooms I now own.
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Re: OT Mac question
I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 12:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote: My mobile.me came up for renewal in March, and i decided not to renew. About 2 days ago i started getting pop ups asking me to submit my user name and password so as to link up to idisk. It comes back stating no such name or password. Now i get this pop up about every 10-15 minutes. Can i get rid of it some how.?? Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. On May 3, 2010, at 4:59 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-03 14:01 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I have a similar problem, except that every time mobile.me synchronizes, I get a popup asking me to input the username and password for a laptop that I stopped using about 3 years ago. Annoying as hell. that's likely because you transfered settings from an old machine, including the old login keychain, with its old password; change the keychain password to match your current account password and it should stop (however if you can put up with the pop-ups, it is more secure the way you have it -- i intentionally have a different account password than my login keychain password, because that way access to my session doesn't automatically grant access to my keychain) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT Mac question
Thanks much, Steve. I'll give it a shot. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 5:18 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-03 16:13 , Jeffery Smith wrote: I hope I wrote down that password somewhere. well, if you haven't been able to open that keychain for a while, you've been doing okay without its contents, and could just reset it here is a detailed explanation and steps for this and related actions: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1060 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list! Godfrey, I thought you had switched to anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this list. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've carried-on my Feisol CT3442 Tournament tripod several times. Folded and in its case, with Acratech head, they're 19x5.5 and weigh 4.2 lbs. I don't put It in the carry-on bag although it can fit if I take it out of its case. On Sunday, May 2, 2010, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It wasn't until I started thinking about packing that I realized that my 'sturdy' tripod won't fit in my carry one luggage. I'm not going to have time to do something about it this week, but I did some quick research anyways, and the benro travel angel tripods seem pretty interesting. Does anyone have experience with them? Are their quick release heads by any chance compatible with the generic manfrotto mount? Does anyone have a smaller, reasonably sturdy tripod that does fit in carry on (under 18 folded) that they really like? Preferably not too horribly expensive. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: POTY - nature shot from Louisiana
People who own land on the bayou get a handful of coupons or tickets for hunting alligator each year. They are actually tags that have to be tied onto any alligators taken. The quota given out is enough to curb the alligator population. The modus operandi (at least when I was in graduate school) is to hang a dead chicken above the water on a cable with a giant hook. The next morning, you go out on a flatboat to see who bit. Typically there is a large gator hanging from the hook in his mouth. The boat goes next to them, and they are euthanized with a single gunshot to the cranium. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Gritty image. Dan On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.poyi.org/67/01/02.php I didn't define what I meant by shot. Jeffery On May 2, 2010, at 6:53 AM, Bob W wrote: I found this interesting site while searching for something else. It's the Pictures of the Year from the Missouri School of Journalism, which is well-known for its encouragement of this sort of thing, so some excellent photojournalism: http://www.poyi.org/67/winners.php Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO: The Diner Breakfast
That coffee needs some chicory in it. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: http://dinerdan.posterous.com/ Comments, criticisms and suggestions are encouraged. Dan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Hey, when I shook his hand, it enveloped my hand all the way up to the wrist watch. And he scarfed a double expresso in one gulp. He's BIG. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On 5/3/2010 3:44 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list! Godfrey, I thought you had switched to anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this list. Godfrey could lose a little weight, but I don't think he quite qualifies as 4/3 of a person. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Tripods that fit in carry on
Are you currently Pentaxless? Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 7:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've been on here since 2004ish, Jeffery. It's just ridiculous enough that I'm loathe to unsubscribe... On Monday, May 3, 2010, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: Good God! Godfrey's on the Pentax list! Godfrey, I thought you had switched to anothermount. Didn't you become a 4/3rds person? I'm a newbie on this list. Jeffery On May 3, 2010, at 7:31 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I've carried-on my Feisol CT3442 Tournament tripod several times. Folded and in its case, with Acratech head, they're 19x5.5 and weigh 4.2 lbs. I don't put It in the carry-on bag although it can fit if I take it out of its case. On Sunday, May 2, 2010, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It wasn't until I started thinking about packing that I realized that my 'sturdy' tripod won't fit in my carry one luggage. I'm not going to have time to do something about it this week, but I did some quick research anyways, and the benro travel angel tripods seem pretty interesting. Does anyone have experience with them? Are their quick release heads by any chance compatible with the generic manfrotto mount? Does anyone have a smaller, reasonably sturdy tripod that does fit in carry on (under 18 folded) that they really like? Preferably not too horribly expensive. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-x (navy) arrived
My K-x just rolled in from BH. Very light, familiar controls, and the cheapo zoom is not bad for -$150. I'll probably try it with the Tamron 17-35 for a while. A bargain of a camera. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Worth selling the K10D if I'm getting the K7?
I'd hang on to it. As you say, the resale value is not enough to make you want to lose it as a backup camera. Jeffery On May 6, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: I'm about to have enough in my camera fund to pop for a K7. Yes, I know there are rumors of something newer over the horizon, but that will take longer than I care to wait, will cost more than I have saved up, and the K-7 right now is at $843 at BHPhotovideo which is a pretty damned good price. The question is: Is there any resale value to the K10D? I'd thought about handing it down to my wife who would like occasionally to learn how to use a real camera, but I hesitate to give her the K10D for the same reasons that I want to replace it, namely: unpredictable/slow autofocus and exposure which can be all over the map. On the other hand, if it wouldn't generate more than a couple hundred in resale, then there really isn't much point in trying to sell it, is there? What do you all think? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax: ...we don't want to be seen as the same as everyone else
Digital talk was verboten on the LUG for years. Then the M8 arrived, and film camera talk has all but vanished. With the introduction of the M9, the M8 folks are the wannabes. And you were just talking about the cost of the bodies. Take a look at the Leica lens prices these days. The cost of the Noctilux will make you plotz! Jeffery On May 6, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Keith Whaley keit...@dslextreme.com wrote: Try the Leica S2 - then you'll know what unsurpassed means! Yeah, well, you may be right. I'll never know. I was so ignorant of it, I had to Google it! Imagine! Anyhow, when I saw the price, I froze up and couldn’t move for several hours. I can’t possibly dispute a cost like that, or specs like that. On the other hand, I haven’t actually LOOKED thru a Leica S2 VF. Perhaps some day I might. A friend of mine had one from the Leica rep to work with for a week, so I got a chance to play with it for a few minutes. A lovely camera in every way. It's about the distance from the Earth to the Oort Cloud above my pay grade ... but at least not as far as Alpha Centauri. An M9 is much more approachable, that's right around the orbit of the Moon. ;-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?
I adjust lighting accordingly (the meter reading will try to make them Zone VII) so that all of their facial features are clearly visible and pleasant. Jeffery On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It is discussed briefly in Light, Science an Magic. In short, either increase exposure, or take advantage of reflections. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:31:14PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing compared to a black bride in a white dress. On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people. There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of people with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of mankind. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?
I don't do formal portraits, so the lighting is the way it is. ;-) I take a photograph of each of my students (75% are African American) on the first day of class, using ambient (lousy) classroom lighting and a fast lens. Jeffery On Jul 12, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Virtually all of the answers so far have focused on exposure only and not lighting. I found this article to be very informative. http://www.nyip.edu/photo-articles/archive/photographing-people-of-color The secret is to create lots and lots of highlights on dark skin. This can be done with reflectors or side lighting. From experience, I know that using a strobe from the side would also be very effective if a wedding dress was in the photo. The side light shows the dress in relief (which highlights and preserves folds and details). In fact, a single on-camera strobe is probably the worst way to show off a white wedding dress. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I adjust lighting accordingly (the meter reading will try to make them Zone VII) so that all of their facial features are clearly visible and pleasant. Jeffery On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It is discussed briefly in Light, Science an Magic. In short, either increase exposure, or take advantage of reflections. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:31:14PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing compared to a black bride in a white dress. On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people. There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of people with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of mankind. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: How do you photograph dark skinned people?
You're right, Bruce. Too broad of a generalization. I primarily do street photography. I spent years fighting highlight versus shadow down here, getting chalk and soot results on Tri-X. Pretty soon, I just stopped shooting from 10-4 unless it was overcast (which I like the most). It does wipe out a lot of street photo opportunities, but the people are less sweaty. ;-) I also don't have to futz with lens hoods. These 4-petal hoods make me look so conspicuous, I might as well use a tripod too. It's good to be back on the list again (after a hiatus of the past 12 months or so. Jeffery On Jul 13, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Jeffrey Smith wrote: I don't do formal portraits, so the lighting is the way it is. I respectfully disagree, Jeffrey. The light _source_ may be what it is, but what you do after that makes a huge difference to the quality of the portrait. You may have the sun coming in through blinds on one side of your classroom. You can position your subject closer or further from the window and that will affect light fall-off across their face or body. You can have them face the window or away from it, or any angle in between. If you have them turn their back to the window then position a large white board behind you to bounce soft light into their face, you can get a gorgeous backlight to define their hair and flattering even light to illuminate their features. Do that but have them face 45 degrees to you and you'll get some side light as well. Even a little fill flash from a mini softbox like Walt's will improve the look in a windowless room with overhead strip lights. Fight the crappy light, Jeffrey! :-) On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I don't do formal portraits, so the lighting is the way it is. ;-) I take a photograph of each of my students (75% are African American) on the first day of class, using ambient (lousy) classroom lighting and a fast lens. Jeffery On Jul 12, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Virtually all of the answers so far have focused on exposure only and not lighting. I found this article to be very informative. http://www.nyip.edu/photo-articles/archive/photographing-people-of-color The secret is to create lots and lots of highlights on dark skin. This can be done with reflectors or side lighting. From experience, I know that using a strobe from the side would also be very effective if a wedding dress was in the photo. The side light shows the dress in relief (which highlights and preserves folds and details). In fact, a single on-camera strobe is probably the worst way to show off a white wedding dress. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@gmail.com wrote: I adjust lighting accordingly (the meter reading will try to make them Zone VII) so that all of their facial features are clearly visible and pleasant. Jeffery On Jul 12, 2013, at 12:58 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It is discussed briefly in Light, Science an Magic. In short, either increase exposure, or take advantage of reflections. On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:31:14PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: I have nothing to share except that a mix of skin colors is nothing compared to a black bride in a white dress. On 4/20/2013 12:15 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Request please share resources for photographing dark skinned people. There is still a greater challenge, that of photographing a group of people with yellow, brown, white, black skin or every other races of mankind. Regards. Bipin - from that far away enchanting land. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Photography is a Bastard left by Science on the Doorstep of Art - Peter Galassi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions
Re: Help request, who knows a lens repair service that will even look at older third party lenses?
I was going to confidently recommend Essex in New Jersey, but a net search shows that they went out of business. :-( Jeffery On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:18 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: My Vivitar S1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0, the third version with the A contacts took a fall of about 2 1/2 feet to a concrete floor. Everything seems to be all right except the aperture lever is binding just ever so much which is keeping it from stopping down normally. I took it apart, as much as I felt comfortable doing, while still thinking I'd get it back together, and was unable to discover where the lever is binding, though it's just enough to keep it from moving freely through part of it's travel. Even at that I managed to lose one small screw. Any new Pentax equipment I'd send to C.R.I.S. Older stuff I'd send to Pentaxs.com, but I've never damaged an older non Pentax lens I thought was worth having repaired, so I'm at a loss. Any suggestions would be welcome, preferably within the continental U.S., but Canada probably isn't out of the question. Though I'm not sure what kind of hoops I'll have to jump through to get a used lens for repair through customs. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Help request, who knows a lens repair service that will even look at older third party lenses?
Doesn't KEH use (or own) something called Peachtree? I got a Fuji folder fixed by a place in Atlanta with the word Peach in it. Jeffery On Jul 14, 2013, at 12:24 PM, James King jamesk8...@mac.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote on Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:19:58 -0700: My Vivitar S1 70-210mm f2.8~4.0, the third version with the A contacts took a fall of about 2 1/2 feet to a concrete floor. Everything seems to be all right except the aperture lever is binding just ever so much much as I felt comfortable doing, while still thinking I'd get it back together, and was unable to discover where the lever is binding, though it's just enough to keep it from moving freely through part of it's travel. Even at that I managed to lose one small screw. Any new Pentax equipment I'd send to C.R.I.S. Older stuff I'd send to Pentaxs.com, but I've never damaged an older non Pentax lens I thought was worth having repaired, so I'm at a loss. Any suggestions would be welcome, preferably within the continental U.S., but Canada probably isn't out of the question. Though I'm not sure what kind of hoops I'll have to jump through to get a used lens for repair through customs. If KEH can't help, you might consider trying Paul Ebel: Paul Ebel Lens Services 420 21st Street North, Suite #2 PO Box 141 Menomonie, WI 54751 Paul has repaired old lenses and cameras for me in the past. Regards, Jim -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Any new flagship camera rumors?
I probably won't buy another Pentax body (I have the K-7 and H-5) until/unless they come out with a FF body. I have so many lenses that are designed for full frame (31, 43, etc.), I would really like to be able to take full advantage of their capabilities. I use the Pentax primarily for photographing plays/musicals at the college. JLS On Jul 16, 2013, at 12:17 PM, Aahz Maruch wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote: -Messaggio originale- From: Aahz Maruch On Tue, Jul 16, 2013, Dario Bonazza wrote: Funny, as I thought of the 16MP sensor in the K-5IIs as the second most important reason to upgrade from the K-5 (the first one being of course the huge improvement in AF accuracy in odd light). 16MP is already more than I need and I'm happy to delay any forced pixel count increase as much as possible. That's a wonderful world, isn't it? The K-5 has the same sensor, doesn't it? Yes, but without an anti-alias filter, which means a visible jump in resolution sharpness when everything else (lens quality, steadiness focus) is at best. Missed that you were specifically talking about the IIs. Anyway, I took both II and IIs on my Alaska cruise, will report whether I notice any difference in sharpness (although there were essentially zero duplicate shots taken with the same lens on both bodies). -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Semi-OT: The true reasons for a full frame camera
The Sony alpha 850 is a full size sensor with anti-shake. Jeffery On Jul 17, 2013, at 5:44 PM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote: Can you do in-body shake reduction with larger sensors? I doubt the N or C would put it in the body anyway. They make too much money on the lenses and have spent too much time telling everyone that it's better when it's in the lens. gs George Sinos www.GeorgesPhotos.net www.GeorgeSinos.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:27 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure how much scaling up would be required the hypothetical FF Pentax would require for a FF mirror box. If you compare a *ist-D and a *ist-Ds and an ZX/MZ-5n, you'll find that the *ist-D has the same size mirror box as the ZX/MZ camera and the *ist-Ds camera has a mirror box and mirror more in keeping with an APS-C sensor. Yet it isn't appreciably smaller for that, the volume just seems to be distributed differently. Now the shake reduction system might require a slightly different form factor, but then again it might not. On 7/17/2013 5:18 PM, John wrote: I ran across this in a discussion thread in DPReview comparing the Nikon D600 to the Nikon D7100. I've mentioned here before that I've been looking closely at the Nikon D600 and consider its specifications to be a minimum starting point for what any Pentax FF must offer. Still, it has some shortcomings from my point of view (beyond Nikon having put their IS in the lenses). Someone mentioned the D7100 as an example of what a Pentax K5II follow-on camera would need to be, so I took a look at its specs on DPReview and it seems to have fixed every concern I had about the D600 (other than IS which I understand ain't gonna' happen). http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/articles/equivalence/ff.html Semi-OT because the author bases his design of a hypothetical compact FF Nikon D800c on scaling up the the Pentax K5 body to fit in a FF sensor mirror box. The rest of the article doesn't matter all that much, but I thought it was interesting for the suggestion that Nikon should be taking design cues from Pentax. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: [meta] Reply-to list (was Re: FS: Low-mileage K-7 body, , WR kit zoom, Tamron 24-135 lens)
Link! On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have a cat or dog so to add to the peace tranquility of the group I offer this small geso They were mostly taken with K-01 including the two that look like a 70's acid trip. Peace out! pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 2 Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:05:05 -0500 From: Charles Robinsoncharl...@visi.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: [meta] Reply-to list (was Re: FS: Low-mileage K-7 body, WR kit zoom, Tamron 24-135 lens) Message-ID:3ed9bd6f-5852-45f7-be9c-4e9f29bb2...@visi.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jul 19, 2013, at 00:13 , David Manndmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Jul 19, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Zos Xaviuszosxav...@gmail.com wrote: Can we get back to perverted jokes or derailing every serious conversation into absurdity or something?:) I think we need some cat photos to calm everyone down. Favorite odd photo of my old now-20-year-old buddy. From 2005: http://charles.robinsontwins.org/photos/2005/IMGP3164.jpg -Charles -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Question about Tokina Zoom 28-210 vis a vis Pentax
My 28-80 2.8 Tokina zoom is built like a tank and is better with film than with digital. The zooms that really seem to have gone up in quality (optical and build) are the Sigmas and Tamrons, IMO. Since the Tokina is a gift, that trumps paying for a Pentax, Tamron, or Sigma. :-) Jeffery On Jul 19, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote: the friend whose wedding I'm shooting ended up acquiring a Tokina 28-210 zoom which he intentds to give me... He knows nothing about such things , and is away from home now, but it is a bayonet mount and the rear element had a red dot on it. What I don't remember is if Pentax is the only SLR with clue to positioning the lens to body for mounting or are there several? I didn't see it, this was me asking questions over phone but I figured Bayonet mount, good zoom - worth checking out more anyway. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
Resist any temptation to load more than 36 exposures. It will scratch the film unless you are using an ultra thin film such as HW Control Pan film. I had better luck with metal canisters with a snap on end than the plastic canisters with a screw on end. Jeffery On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:32 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: I've been shooting a bit of 35mm BW these days and finally broke down and bought a daylight loader for bulk rolls and some reloadable canisters. I'm sure someone here has done or does do the bulk film loading thing... Question that I'm wondering about - is there any problem with just putting the 100 foot roll into the loader and then filling canisters as needed, or is there a reason why you should load up the whole bulk roll in one session? Although I do shoot a fair amount of film it would take a month or two to use up the approximately 20 rolls I'd get out of a 100 foot roll.. Is it OK to just load up a few canisters as needed, which means the bulk roll would be stored in the loader, or should I load it all up at once? TIA - Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
You have to load the 100' roll in the dark, but there is a baffle that blocks the light when you are loading canisters. Jeffery On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Zos Xavius zosxav...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious. You can load the rolls in daylight without a changing bag? How much money do you think you are saving over regular rolls? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
Porters Camera or Freestyle used to sell permanent little adhesive labels for 35mm cassettes. I never needed them since I only loaded one type of BW film (Plus X). Jeffery On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:21 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Thanks, Ken - I was wondering if the reusable canister would get too messed up from adhesive residue, if tape or labels were used, but apparently not. Mark On 7/20/2013 2:14 PM, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: HOw do you label the bulk loaded cartridges? In film days I use to mark the ISO number of exposures on a piece of masking tape a put it on the cassette. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net Subject: Re: Bulk Film Loading On 7/19/2013 11:37 PM, John wrote: Half my refrigerator is taken up right now with bulk loaded cartridges, a bulk loader bulk rolls of film. And I didn't pay a penny for any of it. Someone who made the decision to go completely digital never shoot film again gave it to me. HOw do you label the bulk loaded cartridges? I was thinking of just writing the film type and speed on the leader with a sharpie. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
If you use a certain film cassette opener, it won't crimp the end cap. I'm not sure how many times you can reuse it, though. Look here: http://www.adorama.com/KRCO.html Jeffery On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: On 7/20/2013 11:18 AM, John Sessoms wrote: I seem to have inherited the pack-rat gene as a dominant from both parents ... Then you are probably the right person to ask this question - can you re-use commercial film canisters? I am somewhat embarrassed to admit this in a public forum but I just developed 2 rolls of Pro-Max 100. Just for the fun of it I tried popping the end of each canister off with just my fingers, no can opener. They came off easily and after the film was spooled I put the canister, center spool and ends back together. Both of them look perfectly serviceable. Did you ever try re-using the actual canister? I don't think this would work with Kodak or Fuji canisters - the end caps on those seem to be held on tight and a can opener is needed to get them off - but who knows about other brands, like UltraFine and Adox etc... If I can reuse the canisters, which normally sell for about $1 each, then the $1.75 per roll I paid for the Pro Max was not a terribly bad deal. Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
Sold out…a relic. On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://www.porters.com/kodak-plus-x-iso-125-35mm-bulk-b-w-film-px402-100-ft.html On 7/20/2013 5:46 PM, Mark C wrote: On 7/20/2013 5:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Porters Camera or Freestyle used to sell permanent little adhesive labels for 35mm cassettes. I never needed them since I only loaded one type of BW film (Plus X). Jeffery I wish Plus-X was still around Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bulk Film Loading
Worse yet, Porter's Camera is also gone. http://www.porters.com No Porter's, no Spiratone. Where are we supposed to get camera odds and ends now? I still have my black and brown leather Porter's bean bag, and still use it. I think it cost about $7 in the 70's. Jeffery On Jul 21, 2013, at 1:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: That SUX! Seems like everything that makes my life worth living is now either illegal, immoral or fattening ... or has been discontinued by the manufacturer. On 7/21/2013 2:15 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Sold out…a relic. On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:46 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: http://www.porters.com/kodak-plus-x-iso-125-35mm-bulk-b-w-film-px402-100-ft.html On 7/20/2013 5:46 PM, Mark C wrote: On 7/20/2013 5:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote: Porters Camera or Freestyle used to sell permanent little adhesive labels for 35mm cassettes. I never needed them since I only loaded one type of BW film (Plus X). Jeffery I wish Plus-X was still around Mark -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - We are not alone?
There's relatively little information out there right now. I'm a bit skeptical of the findings until I see something published in a reputable journal. It's not unusual to find bacteria (Archaea) living in some pretty atrocious environments. JLS On Dec 3, 2010, at 3:16 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith Strange finding. They discovered a bacterium that uses arsenic in place of phosphorus in its DNA. That is somewhat earth-shaking in the biology field, as no other organism on earth has been able to substitute other elements in DNA. Jeffery On Nov 30, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Brian Walters wrote: http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2010/nov/HQ_M10-167_Astrobiology.html Heard that on NPR this morning. Did they sequence the DNA and actually identify arsenic in the locales where phosphorus should be? The story on the radio said some scientists criticize the findings because they did not completely eliminate all phosphorus from the sample and cannot positively say whether the bacterium uses arsenic in place of phosphorus or is just highly adapted to the high level of arsenic found in its natural environment. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - We are not alone?
Not in my latest issue of Science, but hopefully soon. Jeffery On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Cotty wrote: On 3/12/10, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, I want to see this in Science or Nature Like this? http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/01/science.1197258 BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11886943 HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - We are not alone?
I'm curious about the particulars, e.g., if their DNA uses As in place of P, does their RNA do so as well? Is their habitat devoid of P? I'm never surprised when a living thing takes advantage of an unfilled niche, but this development is kind of weird. It means that several questions on my final exam (given to my students Thursday and yesterday) are probably flawed now. Jeffery On Dec 4, 2010, at 7:34 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Looks like the on-line version of Science that Cotty referenced has additional content that didn't arrive in time to be included in the current print issue. From a layman's point of view all the article says to me is the old Sci-Fi shibboleth about Silicon based life forms isn't so far out of the realm of possibility as the critics once claimed, i.e. that there are other chemical processes that can be life beyond those we are commonly familiar with. For me, the only real surprise is that these guys managed to get funding for their research in the current anti-Science climate that prevails here in the U.S. From: Jeffery Smith Not in my latest issue of Science, but hopefully soon. Jeffery On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Cotty wrote: On 3/12/10, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed: Yeah, I want to see this in Science or Nature Like this? http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2010/12/01/science.1197258 BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11886943 HTH -- Cheers, Cotty -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: WTB any list members in Japan?
Those things do little to bolster Pentax's image. :-0 Jeffery On Dec 4, 2010, at 9:10 AM, eckinator wrote: Can anyone order me a Korejanai K-r? See Ned Bunnell's posterous 100 pieces so please be quick =) Thanks Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Pentax, because you can buy a Canon or Nikon at Walmart. On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: Pentax, because anyone can take good shots with a Nikon. (Actually, I think I've used this before.) On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Larry Colen (Droid Mail) l...@red4est.com wrote: Last night when someone saw my camera she comented: Pentax, the poor man's Nikon. What else could we do with this: Cannon, for the skilful photographer. Or how about Pentax 645D, Hasselblad on a budget. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax slogan
Pentax, when taking a picture more important than having your picture taken. On Dec 5, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Pentax, where the good mailing lists are -T -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-5 arrived!
Haven't had time to fire any frames other than one at the wall in my office. At 3200 ISO, it was noise-free. Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 arrived!
Hey, your images are what drove me over the edge to buy the K-5. Pentax needs to put you on their payroll. As I type this, the K-5 and 31 are in copula. Jeffery On Dec 6, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: The 31 on a K5? You have to use this or we'll have to send someone over there to slap you ;-) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Peter Loveday pe...@loveday.org wrote: Now, which lens do I marry to it? I'm leaning to using the 31 for a while. Right now my DA 55/1.4 is pretty much glued to it. If you choose not to use the 31, I'll gladly relieve you of it so you can better concentrate on your other lenses, :) - Peter -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Russian names required.
I'd go with Lolita. Not sure if it is Russian, but the book was written by a Russian. Translated to modern English, it means little laugh out loud. Jeffery On Dec 7, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Walter Gilbert wrote: In Russia, cat names owner. -- Walt On 12/7/2010 6:21 AM, Leon Altoff wrote: Hi Everyone, We are about to buy a female Russian Blue cat and want a Russian name for her. We are buying her with money earned from ringing church bells for weddings and thought that a bell related name would be appropriate. The only problem is that no one we know speaks any Russian. Is there anyone on the list who speaks Russian and can provide me with the Anglicised spelling (and correct pronunciation) of Russian words for bell, wedding, church and anything related that would make a nice name for a Russian Blue cat? Many thanks in advance. Leon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
I switched from Windows to Mac several years ago because of the instability of the Windows OS. That reason alone is good enough to justify the switch, but I much prefer Mac software over Windows. Mac has much less office/business software, but much more software to cater to your creative side. The software is almost always available in a trial version that isn't disabled during the trial period, it is updated far more often than Windows software, and it is cheaper much of the time. Several of the programs I am using have free upgrades for life. Jeffery On Dec 7, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Kenton Brede wrote: I've decided to purchase a laptop for RAW image processing. I'm also a budding nature audio recordist, so I'll be doing audio post processing as well. So far I've only played with Bibble and Picassa a bit processing photos. My plan is to give Photoshop and Lightroom a try. I would like to purchase a mac since it's unix based, but I need a more compelling reason than that to justify spending the extra money. Those of you who've used image processing software on both platforms, what reasons made you settle on one OS over the other for working images? Thanks, Kent -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general
I had one back in the 70's. It's a big camera, a bit harder to handle than a Rollei TLR because of the size of the body and the location of the focusing knobs. I would opt for a tripod. It's pretty hard to do any sort of street photography with a TLR viewfinder. You'll need a light meter (which are getting harder to find these days). Jeffery On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:19 AM, Thibouille wrote: Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a couple reasons: * I want to do film * Medium format * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely. 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is available as well) * The challenge of square format, 6x6 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare) * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to. Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago. Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras? Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling etc. Thank you much. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Russian names required.
My cat comes when the electric can opener calls her. Jeffery On Dec 8, 2010, at 8:50 AM, John Mullan wrote: It has probably already been said, but it doesn't really matter what you name a cat as they will never come when you call it. As for Thomas, there's always Thomasina. jm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general
As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked. Jeffery On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time. Paul On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote: Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a couple reasons: * I want to do film * Medium format * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely. 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is available as well) * The challenge of square format, 6x6 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare) * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to. Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago. Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras? Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling etc. Thank you much. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Mamiya Cxxx TLRs and TLR in general
By the way, I always used the pistol side grip. Get one of those if you can. Otherwise, the camera is very awkward to hold and shoot. Jeffery On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Thibouille wrote: Thanks to all of you. Very helpful. I'm eager to receive the camera and process the films. Le mercredi 8 décembre 2010, Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com a écrit : I had the C330 for a bit way back in the 1970s. There is a 'top of frame' indicator needle. As you focus closer, it drops to show where the top of the frame for a given focusing distance would be. So you focus and frame, then raise the camera vertically to put the top edge of the frame along the indicator line. The shift is only large when you're working in the very close range, for a normal to wide lens. With the tele lenses it becomes a bit more significant ... best to frame a little loose. Plenty of negative to work with so shoot loose and crop ... :-) Mamiya made a gizmo for the tripod that worked with the indicator too. The indicator had a scale of numbers, IIRC, and you could easily raise the camera with gizmo to the number once you achieved proper focus. For me, the C330 was always a tripod camera. Held with pistol grip and porroflex viewfinder, it was a large and heavy beast to tote around. For any hand-held work, I far preferred a Rolleiflex TLR (which had a more sophisticated parallax compensation built into the viewfinder system albeit for a fixed lens with a more limited close focusing range). On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: As I recall, the C330 deals with parallax by having a needle enter the viewfinder field, cropping part of the field that would be cropped due to parallax. Not very sophisticated, but it worked. Jeffery On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:25 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: I had Mamiyaflex C2 and a C220. I always wanted the C330, which has some sort of parallax correction, so the upper lens shows you the frame for the lower lens. Shot with the TLR for many years and made quite a bit of money with it. I used just the 80mm lens for most of that time, but later added the 250mm. It takes a while to get used to seeing things reversed in the viewinder. That was especially difficult shooting pans of race cars, because they came through my viewfinder from the wrong end! But it was a great camera, and the lenses were excellent for the time. Paul On Dec 8, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Thibouille wrote: Got myself (not arrived yet) a Mamiya C330 TLR (with 80/2.8) for a couple reasons: * I want to do film * Medium format * 6x4,5 is bigger than 35mm but if going MF, just do it completely. 6x4,5 is somewhat small IMO * The challenge of using a TLR, waist level finder (although prism is available as well) * The challenge of square format, 6x6 * Interchangeable lenses on a TLR (quite rare) * Mechanical beast, easier to repair than electronic ones if it needs to. Now, I know Darren have one, he wrote so a couple weeks ago. Darren and others, what could you advise as for usage of such cameras? Like usage with or without tripod, what kind of subjects, 120 film handling etc. Thank you much. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ ... Laptop: Macbook 13 Unibody SnowLeo/Win7 Programing: Delphi 2009 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Digital ice - a question
It will save you hours of spotting dust or scratches. Just don't try it with silver halide films. The ICE process will take an eternity and you'll end up with clumped garbage as a scan. If you are interested in BW, use the Kodak BW400 or Ilford XP2. If you want grain, you'll have to add it in PS. Jeffery On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: So... sic transit 1640... Im geting the V500... it says it comes with Digital Ice... I think I remember a cautionary note about using it... from some one here (or from my stock agency) any rants or raves guys? Thank goodness the scanner only costs $112 -- and that some of you (along with others) bought my calendars...! T I A for any comments ann annsan.smugmug.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)
I hate Microdol as it is a grain-dissolving developer that robs you of sharpness. XTOL is probably as good as D76 and won't hurt your septic system. They don't sell the XTOL in small packets anymore, so you have to make a bunch. I love Prescysol for just about everything. You mix it and discard it (highly diluted). You can get it from Photographer's Formulary. Get a few syringes for measuring the concentrate. I also love PMK-pyro, another highly diluted one-shot developer, but you have to be pickier with films for that developer. Jeffery On Dec 9, 2010, at 11:13 AM, John Graves wrote: Now being retired, I have also given some thought to the (film) cameras and gear that I have accumulated but don't use. So home processing appeared on the scene. Am I better off sticking with Tri-X or has anybody had any experience with Kentmere (sp) that is being pushed a bit by one of the local stores. Also seeing some reports about a new to me Kodak developer (Xtol)that is easy to use and environmentally friendly. Given a choice I think I'd buy the small packets of D-76. Also, I am on a septic system. I read on the web that developers and stop baths are fairly close to vinegar and also fairly dilute. So there is not any problems flushing them (literally.) But the fixer does contain silver and some other potentially nasty stuff. Flush it also? Or mix everything together and flush it. That is another suggestion I saw. As a really secondary question, as I was inventorying my gear, I came across a really old pack of microdol. Is there a shelf life for sealed package of chemicals? Is microdol still available? John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Thibouille wrote: 2010/12/8 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Tri-X in D-76 is pretty forgiving, you can soup in a bathroom and pretty much time it with your pulse. Learned to do that in a Photojournalism course taught by a semi-retried Photo-Editor from the Providence Journal. Except for the fact that that the film used was 35mm rather than 4x5 it was a technique that wouldn't have been alien to Weegee. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: BW film home made processing... now that is cheap (+smartphone helpful apps)
I have always used amber glass because of the gradual hardening of plastic jugs over time. Clorox oxidizes just about everything. I don't know of another substance that would clean them up without affecting the plastic. If you invest in some 500ml amber glass bottles, you can get them squeaky clean, and can fill them up to the tippy top to eliminate the air. One caveat about XTOL...when it goes bad, it doesn't look bad (doesn't get brown). If you develop with it after it has started going bad, you will get extremely thin negatives. I tried using Patterson ascorbic acid developer (the one formulated by the late Geoffrey Crawley). By the time it got from England to the US, it was dead. Kodak's HC110 is a reliable one-shot dilution from concentrate. You wouldn't have to fool around with jugs. It has many of the characteristics of D76. And for every combination of everything, look at www.digitaltruth.com and click on the massive development chart. Jeffery On Dec 9, 2010, at 12:20 PM, John Graves wrote: jeffery, Xtol raises another question. I think I still have gallon brown plastic jugs in the garage that I had used for storage of developer etc. during a previous run at home processing. Assuming it has been more than 10 years since they were touched, can you, or anyone, suggest a cleaning method that would make them usable? John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Jeffery Smith wrote: I hate Microdol as it is a grain-dissolving developer that robs you of sharpness. XTOL is probably as good as D76 and won't hurt your septic system. They don't sell the XTOL in small packets anymore, so you have to make a bunch. I love Prescysol for just about everything. You mix it and discard it (highly diluted). You can get it from Photographer's Formulary. Get a few syringes for measuring the concentrate. I also love PMK-pyro, another highly diluted one-shot developer, but you have to be pickier with films for that developer. Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: laptop recommendation
I don't know how many restrictions are possible on networked Macs, but faculty are not allowed to even correct the date or time on the college's computers where I work. Our accessibility is limited to basic kiosk functions. Jeffery On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:56 AM, paul stenquist wrote: And John must have gotten his training from Wheatfield:-). Clicking no is a viable solution. Is that why it makes you angry? Paul On Dec 10, 2010, at 4:31 AM, Cotty wrote: On 9/12/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Just out of curiosity Paul, did you have to work hard to become such an ignorant asshole? Or do you rely purely on natural talent? He gets his training from me. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
They can get rabies, so be cautious. They are pretty resilient to falls. They get into the attic in two of my college's buildings and come crashing through the acoustic tile onto the floor on a regular basis. They also have a host of intestinal parasites that can make them pretty sick. This looks like a young one. I've had a few of them die in captivity during my grad school years. Jeffery On Dec 10, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Larry Colen wrote: It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's the sad moments that make the more powerful photos. I found this poor little fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but he's right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my attic, I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
But you have to admire the degree to which they can completely destroy a room. When one fell though the ceiling into the Xerox copy center, he managed to pull just about everything off of every shelf before taking a huge crap in the middle of the manager's desk. For an animal without an opposable thumb, they have great gripping power. I could spend half an hour trying to get a cable loop around a raccoon's neck. The SOB would grab that cable and just push it to the side every time. Jeffery On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:58 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I hate raccoons, and you will too, as soon as one of them comes through a ceiling, gnaws through some wiring, or dies and decomposes up there. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Fri, 12/10/10, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: PESO raccoon To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Friday, December 10, 2010, 4:46 PM It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's the sad moments that make the more powerful photos. I found this poor little fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but he's right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my attic, I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
At first, the campus police thought it was vandalism. No animal could wreak such havoc. Jeffery On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:47 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: David Mann But you have to admire the degree to which they can completely destroy a room. When one fell though the ceiling into the Xerox copy center, he managed to pull just about everything off of every shelf before taking a huge crap in the middle of the manager's desk. Wow. Every office worker's greatest fantasy. Probably get you fired. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
Last week, an otter was kicking some serious ass somewhere. They suspected rabies but I never heard the results. They can tell pretty quickly by doing a exam of the brain. Jeffery On Dec 11, 2010, at 8:30 AM, David J Brooks wrote: We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and in my detached garage. I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc. Dave On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: It's more fun to photograph the happy moments, but sometimes I think it's the sad moments that make the more powerful photos. I found this poor little fellow lying dead on my back stairs. I don't know what happened, but he's right below the hole that the raccoons have been using to get into my attic, I suspect that he may have fallen climbing in or out. http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249450643/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5249453755/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light. They can hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly practical, though. Jeffery On Dec 11, 2010, at 9:39 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: David J Brooks We have raccoons and skunks in our are and at times under my shed and in my detached garage. I hate them. I worry about the rabies a lot. They and the skunks tear up my yard, nest in neighbours chimney's tear up my compost bin the region uses to collect wet waste and create general havoc. I don't know if it will work for raccoons, but for skunks, you can lay down a perimeter of mothballs around your shed garage and they won't cross the line. We used to have a LOT of skunks around the training sites at Ft. AP Hill, and they'd get into the tents. Post animal control recommended the mothballs solution. You'll have to keep an eye on the mothballs to make sure pets children don't get hold of them. I'd talk to your county animal control agency about them as well. I know there are baits available with an oral rabies vaccine. You might be able to spread some of those baits around your property where skunks raccoons could eat it. Again, you'd need to keep an eye on the bait so pets and kids won't get hold of it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO raccoon
I think it would work for all small varmints. Opossums, squirrels, raccoons. Rats would probably just burrow into an area without light. On Dec 11, 2010, at 11:26 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Jeffery Smith An interesting way to keep them out of the attic is a strobe light. They can hack just about any annoyance except that one. Not terribly practical, though. Jeffery Would that work for squirrels too? I did burglar alarms for 15 years, and I could rig a cheap strobe to a timer ~ 3 min or so and use an IR motion detector to trigger it and the whole thing can be powered by a 12v gel cell power pack (constant trickle charge with AC from a wall wart). It wouldn't take 5 minutes to build it and less than an hour to install it. The only challenge I see is finding an older version motion detector that doesn't have circuitry to keep pets from setting it off. If pets won't set it off, squirrels wouldn't set it off. I'll have to dig around some at home. I may even have one still left over from my BA days. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
Count me in. Jeffery On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:04 PM, David Parsons wrote: http://www.pentaxforums.com/Pentax-DA-12-35mm-DC-WR-lens-coming- Looks interesting. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
I'm still seeing it. Try a shorter URL: http://tinyurl.com/25ljuj7 Jeffery On Dec 18, 2010, at 9:46 AM, John Celio wrote: ? http://www.pentaxforums.com/Pentax-DA-12-35mm-DC-WR-lens-coming- The article appears to have been taken down. Did anyone copy any of the info? John -- http://www.jacelio.com http://www.cafepress.com/jacelio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO- The Best Smile Ever
It's all in the eyes! Great image. Jeffery On Dec 18, 2010, at 7:21 PM, Bong Manayon wrote: Something to tug at your heart... http://bongmanayon.posterous.com/the-best-smile-ever Bong -- Bong Manayon http://www.bong.uni.cc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Unknow Takumar for Leica M39
I don't see many of those (Pentax in Leica SM). Kevin Cameras in California has a lot of oddball lenses, but only 6 Pentax for Leica screw mount. And all 6 of them are the 43/1.9 (modern). Jeffery On Dec 19, 2010, at 2:10 AM, Michel Carrère-Gée wrote: Asahi Kogaku Takumar 3,5/50mm f Leica M39 http://cgi.ebay.fr/Asahi-Kogaku-Takumar-3-5-50mm-f-Leica-M39-/350423807636?pt=Camera_Lenseshash=item5196e2f694 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
Is there another more socially or technically acceptable way of referring to a digital sensor that is the same size as a frame of film? The use of the term full frame seems to offend some people, but I don't know of an alternative that requires fewer words. I don't know of anyone who ever referred to Prince as the Artist Formerly Known As Prince because it's a hassle. If Pentax were to produce a dSLR that has a digital sensor that measured 24mm x 36mm, what would we call that (without offending anyone's sensibilities)? Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
That works for me. On Dec 19, 2010, at 6:24 PM, eckinator wrote: a sensor size fairly accurately resembling TriX's size? would make for a nice acronym... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
I agree with you there. They are putting too much into RD of lenses that are not compatible of...wellyou know. That's fine with me. They are making some great strides in their current line of dSLRs. Jeffery On Dec 19, 2010, at 6:48 PM, paul stenquist wrote: We would call it 24 x 36, which is exactly what it would be. Except that it won't be unless hell freezes over:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: New 12-35 lens on the way
Not intuitive enough. I'm going to stick to full-frame. Or just avoid the subject altogether. Jeffery On Dec 19, 2010, at 7:51 PM, David Parsons wrote: d135 On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Jeffery Smith jsmith...@bellsouth.net wrote: Is there another more socially or technically acceptable way of referring to a digital sensor that is the same size as a frame of film? The use of the term full frame seems to offend some people, but I don't know of an alternative that requires fewer words. I don't know of anyone who ever referred to Prince as the Artist Formerly Known As Prince because it's a hassle. If Pentax were to produce a dSLR that has a digital sensor that measured 24mm x 36mm, what would we call that (without offending anyone's sensibilities)? Jeffery -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- David Parsons Photography http://www.davidparsonsphoto.com Aloha Photographer Photoblog http://alohaphotog.blogspot.com/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
