The recession arrives

2001-11-02 Thread SOncu

The recession arrives

American unemployment rose to its highest level for five years in 
October, according to new data released on November 2nd. The figures 
came two days after confirmation that America’s GDP shrank in the third 
quarter of this year. How long and deep America’s recession will be is 
unclear, and the uncertainty created by the war on terrorism could yet 
make things worse.

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Re: BLS Daily Report

2001-11-02 Thread SOncu

Jim wrote:

 hey, cool! we can see if Irving Fisher's debt-deflation theory of 
 depressions works.I hope it doesn't.

Dear Jim,

Can what is below may be related with that theory as well? I would appreciate 
your comments, as well as the comments of others. 

Sabri Oncu

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Warning signs

Oct 25th 2001 
From The Economist print edition

Asia's slump could once again strain the region's financial system

The economic news from East Asia gets worse by the day. Singapore is 
suffering its worst recession for almost 40 years: real GDP fell by 5.6% in 
the year to the third quarter. Taiwan, Malaysia, Hong Kong, Thailand and the 
Philippines are already in or close to recession. How vulnerable is Asia to 
another financial crisis? 

In 1997 pegged exchange rates, high foreign-currency borrowing and weak bank 
supervision left many Asian financial systems horribly vulnerable to a sharp 
fall in exports and capital outflows. Most of the region's economies now have 
flexible exchange rates, current-account surpluses, large foreign reserves 
and sounder banking systems—all of which suggests that another crisis is 
unlikely. But a new report by Sun-Bae Kim at Goldman Sachs in Hong Kong 
reaches a more sobering conclusion: not only is Asia suffering a more severe 
economic shock than it did before the crisis of 1997-98, but its financial 
system is, overall, no stronger than it was then. 

One gauge of the size of the economic shock hitting the financial system is 
the slowdown in the rate of growth of nominal GDP. This is a proxy for the 
capacity of the economy to generate cash flow, from which debts must be 
serviced. Most economies have seen a much sharper fall in nominal growth over 
the past year than leading up to the 1997 crisis (see chart). In Malaysia, 
the year-on-year rate of nominal GDP growth has fallen from 20% in early 2000 
to minus 2% in the second quarter of this year. 
 
How bad this cash-flow shock is depends upon the level of private-sector 
debt, and upon how many of the outstanding loans are already non-performing. 
In East Asia as a whole, private-sector debt is smaller in relation to GDP 
than in 1997, but non-performing loans now amount to 15% of GDP, up from 11% 
before the 1997 crisis.

If the economic shock is bigger, do financial systems have thicker buffers 
than in 1997? They certainly look healthier today on various measures of 
liquidity. In 1997 foreign lenders triggered a liquidity crunch by refusing 
to roll over loans. Today, the foreign borrowing of the financial system 
amounts to 30% of foreign-exchange reserves, down from 70% in 1997.

On various measures of solvency, however, many Asian financial systems look 
wobbly. The average capital-adequacy ratio of the banks is slightly lower 
than at the end of 1996. Ratios of government debt to GDP are much higher 
today than in 1997, leaving governments less able to bail out banking systems 
again. Public-sector debt has risen from an average of 28% of GDP at the end 
of 1996 to 45% of GDP today.

The worrying conclusion is that although Asia's financial system is less 
vulnerable to a sudden liquidity crisis, there is a risk of a deeper, more 
drawn-out deflation, exacerbated by domestic debt—similar to that in Japan. 
China alone looks better placed than in 1997: the economic shock currently 
hitting China is milder than in the lead-up to the previous crisis, when 
deflation was more severe. Nor does its financial system look significantly 
more exposed (thanks largely to a currency that is only partially 
convertible). Goldman Sachs reckons that the most vulnerable financial 
systems are in Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand and Indonesia. 




Re: New economy bull

2001-10-04 Thread SOncu

Jim wrote:

BTW, some economists argue that even service-providers _in effect_ have 
inventories. Excess supply in a service industry will show up as excess 
capacity [e.g., unused airplanes] or as 'inventory' of underutilized 
employees. -- Baily  Friedman, MACROECONOMICS, 2nd ed, p. 66.

This reminds me of a few money management firms I had worked at or visited: 
there existed a large number employees, or resources as they are called by 
the upper management, who were just sitting there, doing nothing. One of 
these firms was so bad in this regard that roughly one-third of the excess 
inventory in the department I was associated with were on Prozac or some 
other anti-depressant, and I am not joking.

What a fugging (Copy right: Louis Proyect) world is this financial services 
industry!

Sabri Oncu




Re: Event Studies

2001-10-04 Thread SOncu

Edwin Dickens wrote:

But if some investment bankers move in, force out the old
management, sell-off the resorts at a fire-sale price of, say, $50 million,
then the new management will have no trouble running them profitably.  But
that means somebody has to eat a $450 million loss.  The same type of
write-downs have to take place accross the economy in order to set the stage
for recovery, which is what may be happening now in a year or so rather than
years and years and years.

Dear Edwin,

I also believe that this type of write-downs may happen faster now. But who 
will be that somebody who will have to eat the losses after the write-downs? 
Is this not also important in the nature or speed of the recovery?

Best,
Sabri Oncu




A request and a suggestion.

2001-10-04 Thread SOncu

Friends,

Would it be possible for the list members to add their e-mail addresses to 
their signatures? 

Although I greatly enjoy and learn a great deal from most of the discussions 
on PEN-L, it is very difficult for me, and probably for my likes who need a 
learner's dictionary to follow some of the discussions, to cope with the 
heavy volume of e-mails on this list.  

Further, some discussions are so inherently anglo-american that it is 
impossible for me to comprehend what is going on. Here is an example:

Michael Perelman wrote:
Do religious zealots usually frequent lap dancers???

Ask Jimmy Swaggart.
Doug

I understand Michael perfectly but I don't understant Doug. Who the hell is 
this Jimmy Swaggart? By the way, the same goes for both Doug's and Lou's 
lists. I would have subscribed to both, but if I did, I would have had no 
time for anything other than reading e-mails. This is why I choose to 
eavesdrop on the conversations on these lists from their respective websites, 
instead of subscribing to them to receive individual e-mails.

My issue is that some times I want to ask questions to the author of an 
e-mail. But unless I have the address of the author, my only choice is to 
write to the list and further increase th eheavy volume. So, it would be nice 
if the e-mail addresses are added to the signatures. This is my request. 

Now my suggestion:

Please keep in mind that not all of the subscribers, or peekers, of these 
lists are anglo-americans.

Best,
Sabri Oncu
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The algebra of infinite justice, by Arundhati Roy

2001-10-03 Thread SOncu

[This is a long article. I don't know if someone sent this to the list 
already. The list archives have not been updated since September 30th and I 
don't get individual mails. So I apologize if this is a repeat.]

The Guardian (London), September 29, 2001

The algebra of infinite justice, by Arundhati Roy

In the aftermath of the unconscionable September 11 suicide attacks on
the Pentagon and the World Trade Centre, an American newscaster said:
Good and evil rarely manifest themselves as clearly as they did last
Tuesday. People who we don't know massacred people who we do. And they
did so with contemptuous glee.' Then he broke down and wept.

Here's the rub: America is at war against people it doesn't know,
because they don't appear much on TV. Before it has properly identified
or even begun to comprehend the nature of its enemy, the US government
has, in a rush of publicity and embarrassing rhetoric, cobbled together
an international coalition against terror, mobilised its army, its air
force, its navy and its media, and committed them to battle.

The trouble is that once America goes off to war, it can't very well
return without having fought one. If it doesn't find its enemy, for the
sake of the enraged folks back home, it will have to manufacture one.
Once war begins, it will develop a momentum, a logic and a justification
of its own, and we'll lose sight of why it's being fought in the first
place. What we're witnessing here is the spectacle of the world's most
powerful country reaching reflexively, angrily, for an old instinct to
fight a new kind of war. Suddenly, when it comes to defending itself,
America's streamlined warships, cruise missiles and F-16 jets look like
obsolete, lumbering things. As deterrence, its arsenal of nuclear bombs
is no longer worth its weight in scrap. Box-cutters, penknives, and cold
anger are the weapons with which the wars of the new century will be
waged. 

Anger is the lock pick.  It slips through customs unnoticed. Doesn't
show up in baggage checks.

Who is America fighting? On September 20, the FBI said that it had
doubts about the identities of some of the hijackers. On the same day
President George Bush said, 'We know exactly who these people are and
which governments are supporting them.' It sounds as though the
president knows something that the FBI and the American public don't.

In his September 20 address to the US Congress, President Bush called
the enemies of America 'enemies of freedom'. Americans are asking, Why
do they hate us? he said. They hate our freedoms our freedom of
religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and
disagree with each other.

People are being asked to make two leaps of faith here. First, to assume
that The Enemy is who the US government says it is, even though it has
no substantial evidence to support that claim. And second, to assume
that The Enemy's motives are what the US government says they are, and
there's nothing to support that either.

For strategic, military and economic reasons, it is vital for the US
government to persuade its public that their commitment to freedom and
democracy and the American Way of Life is under attack. In the current
atmosphere of grief, outrage and anger, it's an easy notion to peddle. 
However, if that were true, it's reasonable to wonder why the symbols of
America's economic and military dominance - the World Trade Centre and
the Pentagon - were chosen as the targets of the attacks. Why not the
Statue of Liberty?

Could it be that the stygian anger that led to the attacks has its
taproot not in American freedom and democracy, but in the US
government's record of commitment and support to exactly the opposite
things to military and economic terrorism, insurgency, military
dictatorship, religious bigotry and unimaginable genocide (outside
America)? It must be hard for ordinary Americans, so recently bereaved,
to look up at the world with their eyes full of tears and encounter what
might appear to them to be indifference.

It isn't indifference. It's just augury. An absence of surprise. The
tired wisdom of knowing that what goes around eventually comes around.
American people ought to know that it is not them but their government's
policies that are so hated. They can't possibly doubt that they
themselves, their extraordinary musicians, their writers, their actors,
their spectacular sportsmen and their cinema, are universally welcomed. 

All of us have been moved by the courage and grace shown by
firefighters, rescue workers and ordinary office staff in the days since
the attacks. America's grief at what happened has been immense and
immensely public. It would be grotesque to expect it to calibrate or
modulate its anguish.

However, it will be a pity if, instead of using this as an opportunity
to try to understand why September 11 happened, Americans use it as an
opportunity to usurp the whole world's sorrow to mourn and avenge only
their own. Because then it falls to the 

The business shake-out begins

2001-10-03 Thread SOncu

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Friends,

Below paragraph is from the above The Economist article. This paragraph is 
about the sharp review of business strategies. I have been observing a 
change in the mood of upper-managements of a few companies, particularly 
towards out-sourcing and sub-contracting [being a sub-contractor in 
out-sourced project(s)] much before the terrorist attacks.  Does anyone have 
any emprical evidence for or against this?   

Best,
Sabri Oncu

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Business strategies are also coming under sharp review. Although the spread 
of multinationals has brought great benefits to both companies and countries, 
it has made manufacturers more vulnerable to disruption from forces outside 
of their control. While companies are unlikely to want to give up trying to 
seek globally competitive suppliers, they may become a bit more cautious and 
try to reduce their exposure to the risks of international terrorism. Some 
firms may want to build in extra safeguards against business disruption, for 
instance by demanding that certain critical suppliers set up operations close 
to or even within local factories or keep more buffer stocks. Even if the 
immediate threat of terrorist attacks recedes, the conduct of business seems 
unlikely to return unscathed to methods widely used before September 11th.




What happens if they purge us from the antiglobalization movement?

2001-10-02 Thread SOncu

September 27, 2001 - Washington Times

Communists, go home
Robert Stacy McCain

 Ten years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, communists are taking 
over Washington — or at least, the National Mall.

 Most in the media would have you believe that the protesters who will 
gather Saturday across from the White House are a broad coalition of groups 
(as CNN decribed the 1999 rioters in Seattle) or perhaps a various 
political, social and religious organizations (as the New York Times 
described this summer's rioters in Genoa, Italy).

  Hogwash. They're communists, and some of them are honest enough to 
admit it.

  One of the most vocal promoters of Saturday's demonstration is the 
International Action Center (IAC). The IAC's chief spokesmen — Brian Becker 
and Larry Holmes — are both officials of the Worker's World Party (WWP), a 
Marxist organization with a record of supporting repressive communist regimes 
such as Cuba and North Korea.

  The history of the WWP is instructive. Its founder, Sam Marcy, was a 
follower of Leon Trotsky, the Bolshevik leader who was purged by (and later 
assasinated by henchmen of) Soviet dictator Josef Stalin. Marcy split from 
the Socialist Workers Party after his fellow Troskyists refused to endorse 
the USSR's 1956 invasion of Hungary.

  So Messrs. Becker and Holmes, whose party began by defending Kruschev's 
military conquest of Hungary, now want to protest war and American 
imperialism. Isn't that nice?

  But the WWP and the IAC aren't the only commies backing Saturday's 
demonstrations. Among those sponsoring, promoting and supporting the rally at 
the Washington Monument is the Communist Party USA (CPUSA).

  The Young Communist League, youth affilate of the CPUSA, carries this 
message on its Web site, www.yclusa.org: We extend our invitation for people 
to come to Washington D.C. for the Peoples' Summit . . . on September 29th.

  Like the WWP and the IAC, the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) has 
its own front group, Refuse  Resist (RR), founded in 1987 by veteran RCP 
activist Clark Kissinger. Mary Lou Greenberg, another RCP member, is also on 
the National Council of R  R, a sponsor of Saturday's protests.

  Kissinger — who recently served a 90-day jail sentence for probation 
violation — was national officer of the Students for a Democratic Society 
(SDS) in the 1960s, was involved in the 1968 riots in Chicago, then left SDS. 
A follower of Mao Zedong, Kissinger has been affiliated for more than 20 
years with the Maoist RCP.

  Last year, Kissinger offered this bit of analysis: The problem in this 
country is the oppressive system of capitalism that exploits people all over 
the world, that destroys our planet, that oppresses minority people, that 
sends people to the death chambers in droves. That is a problem that has to 
be done away with. Is there a solution? Yes. Revolution is the solution.

  Advocating Maoist revolution — and promoting the ubiquitous hero of the 
left, Philadelphia cop-killer Mumia-Abu Jamal — has won RR and RCP the 
support of rockers like Rage Against the Machine and Chumbawamba.

  The communist influence on Saturday's protest extends far beyond the 
participation of avowed Marxists, Trotskyists and Maoists. Among the 
scheduled speakers are members of the Institute for Policy Studies, a think 
tank which during the Cold War consistently trumpeted the Soviet position, 
supporting the goals and causes of virtually every revolutionary terrorist 
movement backed by Havana, Hanoi, and Moscow, according to one historian.

  Want more? Should any protesters manage to get themselves arrested 
Saturday, they will call on the attorneys of the National Lawyers Guild 
(NLG), organized by lawyers for the Communist Party in 1936. The NLG is 
affiliated with the International Association of Democratic Lawyers, 
described by the CIA in 1978 as one of the most useful Communist front 
organizations at the service of the Soviet Communist Party.

  Being old enough to remember the Cold War and to have cheered the 
collapse of the Soviet empire, I have to scratch my head at the crowds of 
young people — most of them rich, white college kids – who flock to these 
protests organized by communists. Did America endure a four-decade nuclear 
standoff with the Evil Empire, so that its children could grow up to be 
commies?

  I suppose many young people are victims of their Baby Boomer teachers, 
who taught them that the peace movement of the 1960s was all sunshine and 
light. Guess nobody bothered to tell the kids about the bombings perpetrated 
by the Weather Underground and the murders committed by the Black Panthers, 
to say nothing of the millions enslaved and slaughtered in Vietnam and 
Cambodia because of the peace resulting from communist victory.

  So hundreds of young people will be out in front of the White House, 
supporting the communist attack on American 

Re: Security Council unanimous resolution

2001-10-01 Thread SOncu

Chris wrote:

While left opportunist voices may have ridiculed talk of global 
governance, yesterday we saw a historic step from global governance to 
global government, in the unanimous vote in the UN Security Council for the 
statement against terrorism proposed by the USA just two weeks after the 
WTC bombing.

Interesting proposal Chris! I say this after reading your entire mail, not 
just the above paragraph. May I ask you who the cabinet members of this 
emerging government will be in your view? How many Chileans, Peruvians, 
Philipinos, Malaysians, Sri Lankans, Turks, Mongolians, Greeks, Egyptians, 
Sudanise, Brundise and the like will be in this government you think? Whose 
government will it be and do you think the rest will go with it forever? 

Let me tell you this: I won't!...

Sabri




Defining Terrorism Stirs Words of Dispute

2001-10-01 Thread SOncu

Defining Terrorism Stirs Words of Dispute
By DAVID G. SAVAGE and GREG MILLER
Times Staff Writers

October 1 2001 - LA Times

WASHINGTON -- One of the hardest issues facing lawmakers who are writing new 
antiterrorism legislation is the one that many might see as the easiest: What 
is terrorism? 

All agree that a politically motivated attack that kills innocent civilians, 
such as the destruction of the World Trade Center, is terrorism at its worst. 

But the Justice Department has proposed to define terrorism so broadly that 
some lawmakers fear it would include a teenage computer hacker or a protester 
who tosses a rock through the window of a federal building. 

And because the government wants to prosecute all those who harbor or 
conspire with terrorists, a loose definition could brand thousands of 
protesters as conspirators in a terrorist plot. 

Senate aides and administration lawyers negotiated over the weekend on the 
details of the law, and some progress was reported. 

We want to limit it [terrorist offenses] to situations where death or 
serious bodily injured is involved. The administration people said they see 
merit in that suggestion, a Senate aide involved in the negotiations said 
Sunday. 

The two sides hope to reach agreement on the legislation early this week. 

Because terrorism is not one crime but many, Justice Department lawyers opted 
for an open-ended definition. Their draft bill defines a federal terrorism 
offense by referring to 35 other crimes. They range from destroying an 
aircraft or assassinating the president, to offenses such as injury to 
government property or computer trespass. 

This set off alarms among civil libertarians. 

SNIP

The full article is at:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-100101legal.story




Lawmakers Tone Down Terror Bill

2001-10-01 Thread SOncu

Lawmakers Tone Down Terror Bill
By GREG MILLER, Times Staff Writer

October 2 2001 - LA Times

WASHINGTON -- Key lawmakers reached a compromise Monday on anti-terrorism 
legislation that would deny Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft some of the more 
sweeping powers he is seeking from Congress, but it would still mark a major 
expansion of law enforcement authority. 

The bill, which the House could consider as early as next week, would 
dramatically enhance investigators' ability to conduct electronic 
surveillance, detain foreign suspects and seek stiffer criminal penalties in 
terrorism cases. 

But the measure would strip out or scale back a number of controversial 
proposals offered by the White House, including the authority to indefinitely 
detain foreign nationals identified by the attorney general as terrorist 
threats. 

SNIP

The full artilce is at:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-100201terror.story 




[Bloomberg] U.S. Keeps Retaliatory Strikes Outside NATO Command

2001-09-26 Thread SOncu

09/26 14:21
U.S. Keeps Retaliatory Strikes Outside NATO Command (Update3)
By Adrian Cox

Brussels, Sept. 26 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. chose not to call on NATO support 
for its retaliation for the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, 
keeping any military strikes outside the 19-member alliance's command 
structure. 

At a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels, Deputy Defense Secretary 
Paul Wolfowitz didn't call for the alliance's ``one for all'' defense clause 
to apply, or ask for the support of other countries in striking at Osama bin 
Laden, whose Afghanistan- based organization the U.S. says is the prime 
suspect for the Sept. 11 assault. 

As the U.S. deploys military forces in Central Asia and the Persian Gulf in 
preparation for a strike at Afghan targets, analysts say Pentagon planners 
don't want to include all members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization 
in their decision-making. 

``The U.S. has the right to decide whether or not to accept a NATO command 
structure,'' said Daniel Keohane, defense analyst at the Centre for European 
Reform, a London-based think-tank. ``They feel they're better served 
organizing it in the Pentagon.'' 

NATO members were prepared to invoke Article Five of the North Atlantic 
Treaty, which says all members ``shall assist'' any other member subjected to 
military attack, if that attack is shown to come from outside the alliance. 

NATO Secretary General George Robertson had said he expected the U.S. to 
provide such proof. ``The first move will be the removal of the word `if','' 
he said on Monday. 

Inside and Outside 

Wolfowitz instead told other NATO defense ministers that the U.S. intends to 
build several international coalitions with countries inside and outside the 
alliance. He didn't offer any more proof that the Sept. 11 attacks came from 
outside the U.S., NATO officials said. 

Article Five doesn't define the nature of assistance members must give. 
They're only obliged to give such support if asked. Robertson said no such 
request for military action had been made. ``The alliance continues to keep 
its options open. There's been no request from the US for such action so 
far,'' he said at a news conference. 

``If we need collective action, we will ask for it. We don't anticipate that 
at the moment,'' Wolfowitz told reporters. ``We got something very important 
when NATO invoked Article Five and this give us a very powerful basis'' for 
cooperating with individual countries, he said. 

Robertson said Wolfowitz in a private meeting had presented evidence of the 
involvement of bin Laden in the attacks. 

``It becomes clearer and clearer that all the roads being pursued lead 
towards Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda network,'' Robertson said. ``The 
U.S. hasn't yet made any definitive conclusions but the burden of the 
evidence being collected clearly points in that direction.'' 

Coalition-Building 

The U.S. is putting together a network of nations including Saudi Arabia, 
Pakistan and Russia to support an attack on Osama bin Laden and his al-Qaeda 
network, in Afghanistan and possibly in countries such as Sudan and Yemen. 

NATO ministers met with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov this 
afternoon. While Ivanov said at a press conference that Russia supports 
``addressing terrorism in the same political and legal language'' as NATO 
members, he said Russia would not participate in military action. 

``As far as participation of Russian troops in Afghanistan is concerned, then 
that is absolutely ruled out,'' he said. 

Involving NATO could hamper U.S. attempts to woo countries such as Russia. 
``They will look to certain NATO states for support, but they also want to 
work with countries outside NATO and this might complicate things a little 
too much,'' Keohane said. 

Keep it Simple 

Recent experience has convinced some U.S. policy makers that it's easier to 
operate outside NATO. During the 1999 Kosovo bombing campaign, France 
insisted on being consulted on U.S. targeting, even though U.S. forces did 85 
percent of the bombing. 

In any case, not all NATO members can provide military support to U.S. 
action. Britain is alone among NATO's 16 European members in offering combat 
troops for a U.S.-led reprisal; it's the only European nation with long-range 
cruise missiles. Only France has a military surveillance satellite. 

The U.S. and Britain have cooperated on other military operations outside 
NATO. In December 1998, they bombed Iraqi targets over Baghdad's failure to 
comply with UN weapons inspections. And they're the only countries still 
enforcing UN- imposed no-fly zones on Iraq. 




Redemption issues

2001-09-26 Thread SOncu

Friends,

If you see any information related to what is below, please let me know.

Best,
Sabri



Mutual managers seek cash cushion
By Elizabeth Wine and Andrew Hill in New York
Published: September 25 2001 19:38 | Last Updated: September 25 2001 20:30
 
 
Some managers of US equity mutual funds have substantially increased their 
cash positions since the September 11 terrorist attacks, in case investors 
decide to redeem their holdings. 

Fund managers and industry analysts suggest funds have sold securities, 
although so far there is little evidence of large-scale redemptions. Falling 
stock prices have also eroded the value of the remaining equities in their 
portfolio, boosting the relative cash position. 

Equity mutual funds have been the backbone of the savings of US households, 
nearly half of which own mutual funds. A sharp increase in redemptions could 
be disastrous for markets, and is the fund industry's worst fear. 

Some managers were bearish even before the attacks, but report that the 
possibility of panic redemptions since September 11 has increased the need 
for a cash cushion. 

The average stock fund held 5.6 per cent cash in July, the most recent month 
for which data is available, according to the Investment Company Institute, 
the trade group for the mutual fund industry. 

That represented $201bn of the $3,589.9bn in assets held by stock funds at 
the end of July. The figure had already crept up this year, as managers grew 
increasingly concerned about the state of equity markets. A year ago managers 
held an average 5 per cent in cash. 

Hank Hermann, chief investment officer of Waddell  Reed, a Kansas City-based 
fund firm, said he had 13 per cent cash across mutual funds and private 
accounts. He estimatd the weighting of cash in his portfolio had increased by 
2 to 3 per cent since the attacks, as markets had fallen and he had sold 
stock. 

After the attacks, there were redemption issues we needed to keep in the 
back of our minds, said Mr Hermann, although he added that since Monday's 
rally, investors had not been redeeming. 

Robert Lee, an analyst at UBS Warburg, said a survey of mutual fund call 
centres indicated that the rate of outright fund redemptions had increased, 
but he added I wouldn't characterise it as a stampede. 

Liz Ann Sonders, managing direcor of Campbell Cowperthwait an asset managing 
unit of US Trust, said she had anecdotal evidence that some of the medium to 
large US mutual fund companies were increasing cash positions and that some 
firms now held as much as 20 per cent of their portfolio in cash. 

Don Cassidy, analyst at fund tracker Lipper, noted that with the end of the 
quarter approaching, some managers might have begun gathering more cash to 
present a conservative picture to shareholders when the quarterly reports 
were sent out. 

He also suggests that in the four days after the attack with markets closed, 
managers had plenty of time to think about what stocks they wanted to sell. 
But, having sold, they were probably in no particular hurry to get back in 
as markets were not going back up. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 
14.3 per cent last week, its worst performance since 1933. 




Re: the state of the list

2001-09-26 Thread SOncu

Michael wrote:

The area where I think we could make the most headway would be to
discuss the consequences.  What will the effect be on the U.S. and the
world economy?  What sort of unintended consequences might arise.

There were plenty of discussions on this on our next door neighbour WSN. 
Arguments were ranging from that big business and big government might merge 
to form an Orwellian social monstrosity, that capitalism's eventual collapse 
will be the principal event of the 21st century, to that a militarized - 
centralized emperorship without any democratic component might emerge, so 
forth. Interesting discussions I would say.

You may want to read this very informative analysis from a Pakistani fellow:

http://csf.colorado.edu/mail/wsn/2001/msg01388.html


Best,
Sabri




News from the antiglobalization front

2001-09-18 Thread SOncu

Just found this in my mail box. Sabri

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From: S29 Zapatista Block [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 13:06:21 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: S29 DC Update - Call for Input

In light of the changed circumstances, the Latin America Solidarity
Conference planning committee has postponed the Demonstration against the
Military and Economic US Intervention in Latin America and the Caribbean.
Instead, the planning committee is encouraging people to join actions to
conquer the current threat of war and the racist attacks against members of
the Arab-American community locally and in Washington DC.
The Zapatista Block is re-focusing to support the efforts of an emerging DC
coalition led by the Washington Peace Center and to contribute to an
anti-authoritarian contingent at the Demonstration against War and Racism in
DC on Sept. 29.  We feel that we need to take the changed atmosphere in the
society into account and need your input to answer questions that we have
(how would a group wearing masks be perceived at this point and time etc.).
Please visit the web page

www.geocities.com/zapatistablock

and add your feedback.
In Solidarity,
Daniel Guerin for the S29 Zapatista Block




Students for peace vigils and listserve / National Day of Action

2001-09-16 Thread SOncu

Below are two e-mails from American students. Sabri

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Subj:students for peace vigils and listserve
Date:   01-09-16 14:37:20 EDT

Hey All,
 Peace rallies and vigils are being planned on campuses across the
country on Thursday, Sept. 20. Dozens of campuses have already signed
on. there will be a vigil for peace at Hunter on the 20th at 4:30 in
front of the West Building.
 A student anti-war listserve has been set up. Students can subscribe
by sending an e-mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spread the word.

Christopher Day

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Subject:  National Day of Action Against Scapegoating Arab Americans and to 
STOP THE WAR

 
*** NATIONAL EMAIL -- FORWARD WIDELY!! *** 

-- 

National Day of Action Against Scapegoating 
Arab Americans and to STOP THE WAR 

Thursday, September 20 

   1. Stop the War! 
   2. No racist scapegoating! Defend the Arab American, 
   Middle Eastern, and Muslim communities! 
   3. Defend civil liberties! 

** OVER 200 ANTI-WAR ACTIVISTS MEET AT UC BERKELEY, CALL FOR A 
MARCH AND RALLY AT NOON AT UC-BERKELEY ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 20 
** VOTE TO AGREE ON 3 POINTS OF UNITY 
** WEAR GREEN ARM BANDS TO SHOW UNITY 

-- 


Exploiting the widespread grief and horror at the tremendous loss of innocent 
life in the September 11 attacks in New York and Washington, the U.S. 
government is preparing to embark on what they are saying will be a massive, 
protracted military campaign. They are now saying that this war effort will 
last at least a year and involve probably more than one poor Middle Eastern 
country. We must do everything possible to stop this bloody U.S. military 
retaliation and escalation. Many more innocent people -- citizens and 
soldiers -- stand to die if we do not stop this war drive. 

A truth that is being hidden in the media coverage and the political speeches 
is that these attacks are the result of a situation created by the U.S. 
government and its wealthiest, most powerful allies. U.S. military and 
foreign policy has reaped hatred -- any U.S. retaliation will escalate the 
hate of the U.S. and worsen an already bad situation. The U.S. government is 
using last week's tragedy to cause an even more devastating human tragedy 
across the globe. 

The military offensive being prepared abroad has been accompanied by a wave 
of racism, xenophobia and threats to basic civil liberties at home. Already, 
some of the ugly face of American chauvinism and racism has come out: a 
violent, racist, xenophobic, backlash has begun against Arab Americans, 
Muslims and South Asians across the country. 

A September 14 mass meeting (organized in less than 24 hours) of over 200 
students and activists at the University of California Berkeley, voted for 
the 3 Points of Unity and called for a mass rally and march as part of a 
September 20 National Day of Action Against Scapegoating Arab Americans and 
to STOP THE WAR. On campuses throughout the nation, we call for rallies, 
teach-ins, marches, and other events to show solidarity and opposition to the 
war drive on this day. 

Within months of the attack on Pearl Harbor, racist hysteria against Japanese 
Americans led to the internment of nearly one hundred twenty thousands people 
solely on the basis of race -- we must never allow anything like that to 
happen again. 

Now is the time to act. Join many thousands across the country Thursday, 
September 20 for the National Day of Action Against Scapegoating Arab 
Americans and to STOP THE WAR. 

Contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

* 

At UC-Berkeley, we call on everyone to join us: 

UC-BERKELEY RALLY TO STOP THE WAR 
In solidarity with the National Day of Action Against Scapegoating 
Arab Americans and to STOP THE WAR 
Thursday, Sept. 20 
12 noon rally + march 
Sproul Plaza 

Contact us at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

* 

*NATIONAL GREEN ARM BAND CAMPAIGN* 

Cut out green arm bands with this Green Arm Band Pledge attached to them to 
pass out and wear across the country! (Green is a traditional Muslim color 
for peace and unity.) 

THE GREEN ARM BAND PLEDGE: 

- I oppose scapegoating -- I stand in solidarity with Arab, Muslim and Middle 
Eastern people. 

- I will speak out against scapegoating and offer to escort and come to the 
aid of any Arab, Muslim or Middle Eastern person facing racist harassment or 
attacks. 
 




re: Crusade

2001-09-16 Thread SOncu

Tim asked:

 Does Musharraf speak English?

Yes, he does. Better than I do. These Americans are so ignorant, they don't 
know anything, used to say my grandmother back in those good old days. 

Just kidding Tim,
Sabri

In these days of sorrow and confusion, maybe this can help you smile a bit:

http://www.toxicpop.co.uk/dsei/terrorist.jpg

A British anarchist friend sent that on.




Fwd: IMC Brasil Statement on CNN supposed manipulation of images

2001-09-15 Thread SOncu

For your information,

Sabri Oncu

=
Forwarded mail:

Date:  Sun Sep 16, 2001  2:09 am
Subject:  IMC Brasil Statement on CNN supposed manipulation of images

 
A couple of days ago a story written by a Brazilian student was posted at 
IMC Israel 
(http://www.indymedia.org.il/imc/israel/webcast/display.php3?article_id=6946) 
saying that his teacher at UNICAMP university had evidence that images CNN 
broadcast showing Palestinians celebrating the World Trade Center attack 
were actually old images from 1991 of Palestinians celebrating Kuwait's 
invasion. This story has since then circulated in the form of e-mails and 
hundreds of people commented on it. We finally managed to contact him and 
he was very worried about the repercussions of what he wrote. He said that 
his teacher later said that she didn't had a tape of the old CNN footage 
and she wasn't sure about it. Well, he's writing himself a statement 
clarifying what happened. Meanwhile, we would ask that people not spread 
this rumor further.

Sincerely,

Pablo Ortellado 
Independent Media Center Brasil Volunteer
http://www.brasil.indymedia.org 




CALL FOR PEACE JUSTICE!

2001-09-15 Thread SOncu

Friends,

Have a look at the petition below and sign it if you think appropriate.

Best,
Sabri Oncu

http://www.thePetitionSite.com/takeaction/224622495




Re: Will Pakistan Jump to US Demands ?

2001-09-15 Thread SOncu

In Pakistan itself, Islamism derived its strength from state patronage
rather than popular support. The ascendancy of religious fundamentalism is
the legacy of a previous military dictator, General Zia-ul-Haq who received
solid backing from Washington and London throughout his 11 years as dictator.

I had seen this sad movie in the early 1980s back home.  The September 12, 
1980 military coup played a significant role in the ascendancy of islamic 
fundamentalism in Turkey. Now those (the military) who helped it prosper to 
use against the left are fighting it.

Sabri 




Fwd: START THE ANTI-WAR MOVEMENT NOW!

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu





Some on this list are apparently not interested in morality or praxis.
Presumably they have already deleted this message.

For the rest of us, the time is now to organize the anti-war movement.

It is a matter of days before the U.S. and NATO launch a war, yes complete
with ground troops, on Afghanistan, which has been harboring Osama bin
Laden.  This is in today's Guardian (guardian.co.uk).

Some say Iraq will be attacked as well, but that the U.S. intends to
overthrow the Taliban and occupy Kabul seems clear.  They will
systematically attack all suspected training camps in both Afghanistan and
Pakistan, apparently with the cooperation of the Pakistani military
regime.

HOW MANY MORE INNOCENTS WILL DIE?

The time is now to organize coalitions, rallies and marches, and teach-ins
everywhere.

As the pirate said when captured by Alexander the Great, and was asked how
he dared molest the sea, Because I do it with a little ship only I am
called a thief [substitute terrorist]:  you, doing it with a great navy,
are called an emperor.

The U.S. has systematically starved the people and children of Iraq, and
more recently Afghanistan, with economic sanctions.  Now this largely
unknown form of terror will be replaced with the most visible form of mass
violence.

THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN ARE NOT COLLATERAL DAMAGE,
THEY ARE OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS!

NO U.S. WAR ON THE PEOPLE OF THE MIDDLE EAST!

 







(AFP) Protesters rethink strategies after deadly US attacks

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu

Thursday, September 13 6:20 AM SGT 

Protesters rethink strategies after deadly US attacks

LOS ANGELES, Sept 12 (AFP) - 

This week's deadly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington are prompting 
activists to postpone protests and rethink their strategies, groups said Wednesday.

The first casualty could be planned anti-globalization demonstrations at the September 
29-30 meetings of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund in the US capital.

Things are definitely on hold, said Patrick Reinsborough of the San Francisco-based 
Rainforest Action Network.

I think it's premature to talk about cancellation, Reinsborough said. We're in a 
sort of wait-and-see mode.

A World Bank spokeswoman said Wednesday that no decision has been made on how to 
handle the annual financial meetings of 183 countries, but she added that the issue 
of the timing of the meetings certainly will be discussed in the coming days, giving 
the tragedy that has happened.

Activists expressed concern that a loud, possibly violent protest in Washington later 
this month -- like recent ones in Genoa, Italy, Quebec City, Canada and Prague -- 
could damage support for their causes generated since the 1999 World Trade 
Organization protests in Seattle.

We are not in a position to predict what kind of mood the country will be in (by late 
September), said Soren Ambrose of Washington-based anti-IMF group 50 Years Is 
Enough.

We don't want to violate those sensibilities, Ambrose said Wednesday.

Previously, we were not in a conversation about whether we should proceed or not, 
added Robert Weissman of Essential Action. Now we are.

No activist group has pulled out of the IMF-World Bank protests but, I think you're 
hearing the beginnings of that conversation, said Carol Welch of Friends of the 
Earth, an environmental group.

I think people will be a little concerned for their safety, Welch said.

Organizations like the AFL-CIO -- the country's largest labor federation -- are 
grappling with getting financial assistance to the (terrorist) victims' families, and 
so I think that could potentially take some resources away that they might have 
dedicated to the protests.

Reinsborough said his group canceled a public protest this week against paper and 
lumber conglomerate Boise Cascade.

We don't want it to be confused with any doubts that people may have that we stand 
united against violence in all its forms, whether it's terrorist violence (or) 
institutional violence, he said.

Weissman's Essential Action group was created by Ralph Nader.

Nader's office said Wednesday that the veteran consumer activist and the 2000 Green 
Party presidential candidate would be unavailable for comment on the attacks for at 
least two more days.

Activists expressed sympathy Wednesday for those killed in Tuesday's multiple strikes, 
though some groups used the attacks to repeat opposition to US policies.

The War Resisters League, a small pacifist group, stated on its web site, may these 
profound tragedies remind us of the impact US policies have had on other civilians in 
other lands.
 
 




(Reuters) IMF staffers resigned to calling off meetings

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu

IMF staffers resigned to calling off meetings

Thursday, September 13, 2001
By Mark Egan, Reuters


WASHINGTON #8212; Staff at the International Monetary Fund and World Bank were 
resigned Wednesday that their upcoming annual meetings at the end of September would 
be called off, saying an announcement was expected within days. 

The meetings are going to be called off, an IMF source told Reuters, adding that the 
lender was awaiting word from the U.S. Treasury #8212; the official host of the 
Washington summit #8212; before making an official announcement. The source said an 
announcement was at least two days away. 

D.C. Police Chief Charles Ramsey on Tuesday urged the international lenders to call 
off their meetings in the aftermath of terror attacks that caused both towers of New 
York's famed World Trade Center to collapse. The attacks also saw a hijacked plane 
crash into the Pentagon, costing many lives and putting local police and emergency 
workers into crisis mode. 

Washington Mayor Anthony Williams told local radio station WAMU Wednesday there were 
strong arguments in favor of calling off the meetings in light of security concerns. 

With tens of thousands of protesters expected at the meetings, slated to take place at 
the end of September, sources at the World Bank said the lenders had no desire to put 
Washington through any more trouble so soon after Tuesday's horrific events. Early 
estimates of the loss of life at the Pentagon range from 100 to 800 people. 

They will leave it for a couple of days before making an announcement, one World 
Bank staffer told Reuters. 

Among the problems posed for local police is how to manage crowd control in the face 
of an expected massive protest in Washington. Police had said they would rely heavily 
on officers drafted from New York and elsewhere to help staff the event. But given the 
massive operations in downtown Manhattan, it now seems impossible for the city to 
spare its own much-needed police to help Washington tackle antiglobalization 
protesters. 

Protests at global financial summits have grown increasingly violent recently, with 
one protester killed in clashes with police at a mid-July summit in Genoa, Italy. 

IMF spokesman Bill Murray and World Bank spokeswoman Caroline Anstey both said no 
decision had been made but that the meetings will be discussed in the coming days. 
This is an issue that will be reviewed in the coming days, Murray said. 

As the host country of the meetings, the United States advises the World Bank and IMF 
about security details of the meetings in Washington. Police were bracing for as many 
as 100,000 protesters to take part in violent demonstrations against the policies of 
both institutions. 

One of the main protest organizers, the Mobilization for Global Justice, is mulling 
its options including whether to curtail or downsize some of the protests. 

The annual meetings bring together finance ministers and central bank governors from 
around the world to discuss the global economic situation. The event, currently 
scheduled for Sept. 29 and 30, had already been shortened to two days because of the 
threat of violent protests. 

In the worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor in 1941, three hijacked planes 
slammed into the Pentagon and New York's World Trade Center on Tuesday. Two of the 
planes demolished the New York landmark's two 110-story towers that have symbolized 
U.S. financial might. Later in the day a third and smaller WTC tower that had been 
burning also collapsed. 

Officials fear the number of victims could climb into the thousands at the trade 
center, where 40,000 people worked. 




(CNN) U.S. buildup at Turkey air base reported

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu

U.S. buildup at Turkey air base reported
September 13, 2001 Posted: 5:58 PM EDT (2158 GMT)

By Jane Arraf
CNN Ankara Bureau 

ANKARA, Turkey (CNN) -- Turkish military sources said Thursday the United States has 
beefed up its presence at Incirlik Air Base in south-central Turkey. 

The American base is used to monitor and bomb northern Iraq on a regular basis as part 
of Operation Northern Watch -- the operation that maintains the northern no-fly zone 
established after the Gulf War. 

Turkish military sources said the base seems to be gearing up for a major strike on 
Iraq -- more than just the routine patrolling of the northern no-fly zone. 

In the two days since the terrorist attacks in Washington and New York, the United 
States has sent in more troops to bulk up its force of 7,000 troops already there, the 
sources said. 

Movement in the towns surrounding the air base also has been restricted, they said. 

The Pentagon had no immediate comment. 

Turkish Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit told CNN Thursday in Ankara that Turkey would 
allow the base to be used on any attack against neighboring Iraq, as part of its 
commitments to NATO. 

On Wednesday, NATO invoked a Cold War-era mutual defense clause indicating the 
alliance's support of the United States. It was the first time in NATO's 52-year 
history the clause was invoked. 

It is a very powerful signal to the international community and to those who dabble 
in terrorism or who harbor terrorists, that the Western alliance will not stand easily 
by, said NATO Secretary-General George Robertson. 

According to Article 5, the cornerstone of the alliance, an armed attack against any 
of the NATO members shall be considered an attack against them all. 




U.S. Treasuries Advance, Pushing 2-Year Yields to 50-Year Lows

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu

Please, could someone send us a piece of good news?

Sabri

++

09/14 15:53
U.S. Treasuries Advance, Pushing 2-Year Yields to 50-Year Lows
By Walden Siew and Heather Bandur


New York, Sept. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasuries gained, pushing two-year yields to 
the lowest level in almost half a century, as Tuesday's terrorist attacks drove 
investors to the safety of the most actively traded government securities. 

Two-year notes, which account for as much as 40 percent of trading by primary dealers, 
rose 6/32, or $1.88 per $1,000, to 101 13/32, according to Toronto Dominion. Yields 
fell 11 basis points to 2.87 percent in the second trading day after a two-day closure 
after the attacks destroyed the World Trade Center in New York and damaged the 
Pentagon near Washington. 

``This is a natural flight to Treasuries,'' said David Kotok, president and chief 
investment officer of Cumberland Advisors Inc. in Vineland, New Jersey, which has $500 
million under management. ``Americans certainly consider them the safest securities. A 
better part of the world considers them to be so, as well.'' 

Two-year Treasury yields dropped more than a half-percentage point this week, to the 
lowest level since 1958 amid expectations the Federal Reserve will lower interest 
rates before its scheduled meeting on Oct. 2. That has widened the gap between two- 
and 30- year Treasury yields 7 basis points to 2.48 percentage points, the widest in 
eight years. 

Three-month Treasury bills, which account for about 14 percent of trading by primary 
dealers, were among the biggest gainers. The yield on the securities fell 17 basis 
points today to 2.64 percent. Yields fell 57 basis points in the last two days, the 
biggest decline since Oct. 13, 1989, when the Dow Jones Industrial Average tumbled 6.9 
percent. 

Rate Cuts Seen 

The implied yield on the March 2002 Eurodollar futures contract fell to 2.85 percent, 
down 52 basis points since Monday, signaling the Fed's target may fall below 3 percent 
in coming months. The contract is an indication of what traders expect three- month 
borrowing costs to be in the future. 

The Fed has already reduced its target for overnight bank loans, or federal funds, 
seven times this year to keep the economy out of recession. The target, at 3.5 
percent, is the lowest in seven years and down from 6.5 percent when 2001 began. 

Growth in the U.S. slowed to a 0.2 percent annual pace in the second quarter, the 
lowest in eight years, from 5.7 percent a year earlier. 

``The U.S. economy alone, before this terrible tragedy,'' was weak enough to ``require 
the Fed to cut rates, perhaps a quarter- point, in between meetings,'' said David 
Jones, chief economist at Aubrey G. Lanston  Co., who expects the central bank to 
lower rates 1 percentage point, to 2.5 percent, by the end of the year. 

Treasuries held onto most of their early gains after the government said producer 
prices rose 0.4 percent in August, more than the 0.1 percent expected by economists in 
a Bloomberg survey, after dropping 0.9 percent in the prior month. Excluding food and 
energy, prices fell 0.1 percent. The government also said retail sales rose 0.3 
percent last month, as expected. Excluding autos, sales rose 0.5 percent, more than 
the 0.4 percent gain anticipated. 

Separately, the Fed said output at factories, mines and utilities dropped for an 11th 
month in August, falling 0.8 percent, after a drop of 0.1 percent in July. Analysts 
had expected a 0.3 percent decline. 

Consumer Confidence Falls 

The University of Michigan yesterday said consumer confidence fell to an eight-year 
low. That ``confirmed the fragility of the economy before the crisis,'' said Peter 
Petas, a credit analyst at CreditSights, a New York-based research firm. 

Bond trading closed early, at 2 p.m. New York time, on the recommendation of the Bond 
Market Association, an industry trade group. An abbreviated session was also 
recommended for Monday. 

``There aren't many players trying to make money,'' said Sadakichi Robbins, a 
fixed-income strategist at Bank Julius Baer. ``They're trying to save'' themselves. 

Garban Inter-capital, an inter-dealer broker that was in One World Trade Center, will 
probably be running from a back-up site on Monday, employees said. Prebon-Yamane (USA) 
Inc., a competing broker, has offered the company space in its New Jersey offices. 

Garban, which handles Treasury trades between primary dealers and customers, hasn't 
been able to operate out of London because its ability to conduct and settle trades 
relies on its U.S. division, traders said. 

BrokerTec, an on-line broker that wasn't affected by the World Trade Center disaster, 
made its prices available on the Bloomberg system and on the Internet. 




Re: U.S. Treasuries Advance, Pushing 2-Year Yields to 50-Year Lows

2001-09-14 Thread SOncu

what's wrong with low bond yields? why it this bad 
news?

Jim,

Low bond yields can be good, bad or neutral depending on the situation. Bad news in my 
opinion is that the Consumer Confidence fell to an eight-year low. And this occurred 
before the attack. This is noted towards the end of the article.

Sabri




Taliban Condemn Attacks in U.S.

2001-09-11 Thread SOncu

SEPTEMBER 11, 14:20 EDT 
Taliban Condemn Attacks in U.S. 

By Kathy Gannon 
Associated Press Writer 


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Afghanistan's hardline Taliban rulers condemned the 
devastating terrorist attacks in New York and Washington on Tuesday and 
rejected suggestions that Osama bin Laden could be behind them. 

``We have tried out best in the past and we are willing in the future to 
assure the United States in any kind of way we can that Osama is not involved 
in these kinds of activities,'' the Taliban's foreign minister Wakil Ahmed 
Muttawakil told reporters. 

Muttawakil said Tuesday's attacks were ``from a humanitarian point of view 
surely a loss and a very terrifying incident.'' Asked whether the Taliban 
condemned the attacks on the United States, he said: ``We have criticized and 
we are now again criticizing terrorism in all its forms.'' 

Bin Laden, the exiled Saudi millionaire indicted in the United States on 
charges of masterminding the bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa in 
1998, has lived here since 1996 under the protection of the ruling Taliban 
religious militia. Washington accuses him of running an international 
terrorist network. 

After Tuesday's attacks, a London-based Arab journalist said followers of bin 
Laden warned three weeks ago that they would carry out a ``huge and 
unprecedented attack'' on U.S. interests. 

Abdel-Bari Atwan, editor of the Al-Quds al-Arabi newspaper, said he received 
a warning from Islamic fundamentalists close to bin Laden, but did not take 
the threat seriously. 

``They said it would be a huge and unprecedented attack but they did not 
specify,'' Atwan said in a telephone interview in London. 

``We usually receive this kind of thing. At the time we did not take the 
warnings seriously as they had happened several times in the past and nothing 
happened. ``This time it seems his people were accurate and meant every word 
they said.'' 

Atwan, who interviewed bin Laden in 1996 and has since maintained contacts 
with his followers, said he believed the attack on the World Trade Center in 
New York was the work of ``an Islamic fundamentalist group'' close to bin 
Laden. 

But Abdul Hai Muttmain, the Taliban's spokesman in southern Kandahar, 
dismissed allegations that bin Laden could be behind the attacks in the 
United States. 

``Such a big conspiracy, to have infiltrated in such a major way is 
impossible for Osama,'' Muttmain told The Associated Press in a telephone 
interview. He said bin Laden does not have the facilities to orchestrate such 
a major assault within the United States. 

The Taliban say bin Laden's communications have been taken away from him, but 
several sources close to him — including his family members in Saudi Arabia — 
say bin Laden has regular access to satellite telephones and other 
sophisticated communication equipment. 

Meanwhile, foreign aid workers and even Taliban commanders, who have spoken 
on condition of anonymity, say that the number of Arab nationals in 
Afghanistan has increased in recent months. 

``They are in Kabul, Herat, Jalalabad. They have training centers in every 
province of Afghanistan,'' said one Taliban commander, who would not give his 
name. 

The Taliban, who espouse a harsh brand of Islamic law, have resisted U.S. 
demands to hand over bin Laden. 

After the attacks in East Africa three years ago, Washington retaliated with 
a blistering missile attack in August 1998, sending more than 70 Tomahawk 
cruise missiles into eastern Afghanistan apparently targeting training camps 
operated by bin Laden. 

The U.S. attacks killed about 20 followers of bin Laden's but bin Laden 
escaped unhurt. Since then he has been forced by the Taliban rulers to stop 
giving interviews and making statements. 

In Kabul foreign aid workers were keeping a low profile and security measures 
were heightened with most expatriates being advised to stay in their homes 
for fear of retaliatory attacks from the United States should evidence 
implicate bin Laden. 

But Muttawakil said there is no fear among the Taliban. 

``Since there is no reason for an attack and we are not expecting any 
reprisal attack we are not taking any precautions,'' he said. 
 




Re: Taliban Condemn Attacks in U.S.

2001-09-11 Thread SOncu

Hi All,

I hope our New Yorker friends are doing well. I don't know what to say about 
such a terrible tragedy that took away thousands of innocent lives and will 
make our lives much worse than they were before. Darker days are ahead.

A friend from Turkey told me over the phone that several Turkish tv channels, 
qouting AP, said that the Japanese Red Army (JRA) assumed responsibility of 
the attacks. He also said that many tv commentators argue against this 
possibility.

For your information,
Sabri




Re: And now the attacks on Kabul

2001-09-11 Thread SOncu

Chris,

I don't think these attacks on Kabul are the job of the US. There is a group 
in Northern Afganistan, whose name I cannot recall now, fighting against 
Taliban and most likely this is their job. Two days ago their leader, I guess 
his name was Massoud, was assasinated in a suicide attack by two Arabs and it 
is believed according to AP that Taliban, Laden and the Pakistan Intelligence 
is behind this assasination. 

Of course my guess is no better anybody else's.

Sabri




Re: financial news

2001-09-06 Thread SOncu

Also, the story says Treasury bonds are getting 
scarcer because current projections say the national
debt will be virtually retired by 2010, but doesn't
explain how this can be on the new, new, disappearing
surplus current projections. ...

Believe it or not but I hate the idea that the US Treasury bonds may get scarcer, not 
that I believe they will any time soon. The US Treasury market is such a dense market 
with bonds from such a wide range of maturities (there are roughly 140 or so of them 
in these days) that it is the darling of those who estimate term structures, of 
course, for the benefit of humanity. Someone should tell the US Treasury that the 
well-being of humanity (well, at least, the well-being of me) depends on their 
issuance of more debt, from all maturities. It would be much nicer if they issue a 20 
year bond regularly and I used to like that 4 year bond that they stopped issuing some 
years ago a lot. It used to help keep the curve smoother. 

There is nothing like self-interest as they say: with its help, we wish and do things 
that naturally will also benefit others. 

Sabri






Re: Sick Man of Europe: Next Generation (was Michael's question)

2001-09-05 Thread SOncu

Dear Andrew,

I hundred per cent agree with you on what is below.

Finally, an unrelated note. If you want to travel to a country with
lots of fascinating history, unending ancient structures in various
stages of ruination and preservation, incredible food and friendly
people, a country where modernity constantly interacts with forces
rooted firmly in the past, Turkey is a great choice.

Moreover, I sincerely hope what you say below is the case.

Turkey is moving closer to that day when the contradictions inherent in
it must be faced. I'm confident that the many diverse and warmhearted
people of Turkey will find some way to continue living in peace, and
find ways to significantly boost their mutual prosperity.

As for the rest, it is best to say nothing. 

Best,
Sabri Oncu




Sick Man of Europe: Next Generation (was Michael's question)

2001-09-04 Thread SOncu

Friends,

Let me tell you that it is impossible for mortals like me to keep pace with 
the discussions on PEN-L. I was thinking about responding to Michael's 
original question but when I looked at the archives, I saw that you had 
already produced a ton of e-mails on the subject. I apologize for responding 
so late but here you go.

Let me start with what Andrew said:

 The United States, India, Israel, Turkey, and Mexico were able to
remain both open societies and independent. Each of these successful
nations embraced capitalism, albeit to different extents.

Independent maybe, at least for some time, but Turkey, that is, the Turkish 
Republic (TR), has never been an open society and this remains true even 
today. From 1923 until the beginning of the Cold War, TR had been under a one 
party rule. The founding leader of the party, Mustafa Kemal, a former Ottoman 
General, was also the national chief and the concept of a national chief 
still plays an important role in the current day Turkish politics. 

Mustafa Kemal went to such extremes as accepting as his last name Ataturk 
(the father of Turks), given to them by the National Assembly a few years of 
the founding of TR.  One of the recent debates I had witnessed a while ago 
among some Turkish socialists was on whether Kemal was the Lenin or Stalin of 
Turkey. While Marxist-Leninist were arguing that he was more like a Stalin , 
Kemalist-socialists, which is a contradiction in terms in my view, were 
arguing that he was the Lenin of Turkey. Coincidentally, these 
Kemalists-socialist happen to be Maoists as well and I don't think they have 
any objection to the concept of a national chief.  Some others consider 
Kemal a benevolent dictator, and maybe he was, but benevolent or not, 
dictators repress people and kill some whether they like it or not. In 
another e-mail Michael said: ... I am sure that if I were committed to the 
success of the revolution, I would have had to do nasty deeds that would have 
made me shudder. Mustafa Kemal was comitted to the succes of his 
revolution and did nasty deeds that probably made him shudder later. 

The Turkish revolution of 1919-1922 had broken out in a poor economy, in 
the Sick Man of Europe, which had not had the ability to confront the 
imperialism powers head on. Clandestine operations had been doing great 
damage to the society.  Less committed citizens had been bribed already.  
Misinformation had confused people, creating factional divisions.  Further, 
the society had been divided among different ethnic groups and these 
ethnic-national-religous differences had been under manipulation by the Great 
Powers of the time. At the time the Hundred Years Peace, as Polanyi calls it, 
had already been over and the imperialists of the time had no reason to see 
the Ottoman Empire intact and decided that it was time to dismember her.  

The Turkish revolution of 1919-1922 was an anti-imperialist independence 
struggle against the Great Powers of the time. And the Kemalists (although 
Kemalism remained undefined until the Great Depression of 1929-32 and there 
still is much confusion about it) won this struggle. From there followed the 
Turkish Republic, which was founded in 1923. Kemalists were off-springs of 
theYoung Turks and hence Kemalists' original intention was same as that of 
the Young Turks, with whom they had coexisted for a while until the 
anihilation of their ancestors (guess by whom): To save the Ottoman Empire 
and install capitalism there from above. Their original intention was by no 
means to bring the Empire to an end and build a republic. But as an old 
fellow once said, the many individual wills active in history for the most 
part produce results quite other than those inteded - often quite the 
opposite.  

One thing remained the same though: the urge to install capitalism into the 
pre-capitalist Turkey from above, in some sense, in a manner similar to 
upgrading your operating system from Windows NT to Windows 2000. Upgrading 
from Windows NT to Windows 2000 was such a night-mare for me that I can 
imagine the difficulties the Kemalists had to go through to some extent. By 
the way, I strongly recommed that you let an IT specialist do the Windows 
upgrade for you, if you are not an IT expert yourself.

This installation of capitalism into the pre-capitalist Turkey is what is 
known as the Kemalist revolution. Some argue that the Kemalist revolution 
was a bourgeois (unbelievable, I spelled it right this time) democratic 
revolution. I disagree. There was nothing democratic about it. It was a  
revolution from above and its main objective was to create a national 
capitalist class by any means appropriate, including totalitarianism, so that 
Turkey can find herself a place under the sun, that is, among the first class 
capitalist nations of the world.  Although Turkey failed to achieve this 
objective, and in these days she is back to being the Sick Man of Europe once 
again, the regime 

Re: Prince Bush wimps out against Communism

2001-09-03 Thread SOncu

Andrew wrote:

The word communist originally spoke to a utopian concept, where
tyranny did not reign. Today, however, the large majority of the
world's population uses the word to describe the political bosses of
the USSR, and all those ideologically connected in some way to them. In
my view, the Soviet regime was on balance much more tyrannical than it
was noble. Thus, I argue that the Left should castigate Communists.

I saw a better approach in the summer issue of ScienceSociety. One of the 
articles in this issue is by  Jeffry Kaplow entitled The Illusion of a 
Passing. It is a review article on Francois Furet's 1999 book The Passing 
of an Illusion: The Idea of Communism in the Twentieth Century.

Somewhere in this article Kaplow writes:

. It is true that the Soviet heritage is, in many respects, a heavy 
burden for men and women of the left to carry, but it is our heritage, on 
which we, precisely as heirs to its original aspirations, must come to terms 
with, if we are ever to be politically effective. A polemic like Furet's does 
not help us to do so. Treating communism as another 'totalitarian' idea in 
order the better to denounce it does not allow us to understand why the 
Soviet state and society developed as they did. 

Don't know if the article can be found online. It is worth reading though if 
you have the hard copy, at least, in my subjective view.

Best,  
Sabri Oncu




Re: Prince Bush wimps out against Communism

2001-09-03 Thread SOncu

Andrew wrote:

Does anyone suggest that the Left of today should issue a blanket
apology for the crimes of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and the rest? I would be
hesitant to agree. How can activists of today be responsible for what
some of our intellectual antecedents did when most of us weren't evenborn?

I don't think Kaplow suggests a blanket apology for the crimes of our 
intellectual antecedents in his article. Nor does he suggest that the 
activists of today be responsible for what they did . Neither do I of course. 

As far as I see, Kaplow uses the phrase coming to terms deliberately and 
out of anger, probably without giving much thought to its meaning, because 
Furet, as Kaplow informs us, wrote his book of insults (hey, I made this 
one up) to come to terms with his own past among other things. Taking 
sentences from others' works and presenting them out of context can be 
confusing as you know. I wish you were able to read the entire article but 
unfortunatelly I am an awful typist, so sorry.

Anyway! I leave this at that given Michael's request. 

Best,
Sabri Oncu




Investors (re)discover bonds.

2001-09-02 Thread SOncu

Bonds on Track to Beat Stocks: Rates of Return (Update1)
By Heather Bandur


New York, Aug. 31 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Treasuries are on track to beat the 
Standard  Poor's 500 Index for a second year. That hasn't happened since 
1981 and 1982, when the economy was in recession. 

Concern among some investors that the U.S. might again be headed for 
recession has hurt stocks and driven up prices on government securities, 
which pay a fixed rate of return and typically rise in price when the Federal 
Reserve is lowering interest rates. 

``People are finally figuring out that they can lose money in their 401(k) 
account, so they're turning to bonds,'' said Peter McTeague, a bond 
strategist at Greenwich Capital Markets. ``The game is over'' for stocks, he 
said. 

Government securities have returned 5.9 percent this year including 
reinvested interest, according to a Merrill Lynch  Co. index of bonds and 
notes. That compares with a -13.8 percent return for the SP 500, including 
reinvested dividends. Treasuries returned 13.3 percent last year; the SP 
-9.1 percent. 

``Bonds tend to beat other asset classes, including stocks, at the end of a 
business cycle, through a recession and back out on the other side,'' said 
William Dawson, chief investment officer for fixed-income investments at 
Federated Investors in Pittsburgh, whose $194 million Total Return Bond Fund 
has returned 6.4 percent year-to-date. 

Layoffs and Profits 

Business investment in equipment last quarter had the biggest drop since 
1980, when the economy fell into the first of two recessions during the 
decade. After returning 9.9 percent in 1981, Treasuries soared a year later, 
returning 28 percent. Stocks trailed bonds for both years, with the SP 
returning -4.9 percent and 20.4 percent, respectively. 

The comparison between today's economy and the one in 1981 and 1982 only goes 
so far. Inflation remains well-contained now, allowing the Fed to lower 
interest rates to spur growth. It soared between 1979 and 1981, forcing the 
government to pay a record 15 3/4 percent to sell 20-year notes. The Fed's 
interest-rate increases to end inflation helped bring on the recession then, 
while falling corporate earnings and a slowdown in consumer spending 
threatens to send the economy there now, analysts say. 

Companies such as Gateway Inc. and Ford Motor Co. have fired thousands of 
employees in an attempt to preserve profits. 

Under the direction of Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan, the central bank has 
slashed the target for overnight bank loans 3 percentage points since January 
in an effort to stave off recession. The target, now at 3.5 percent, is the 
lowest in seven years. 

Rediscovering Balance 

Conventional wisdom has it that stocks rally six to nine months after the 
central bank begins reducing rates. Nine months after the start of the 
current cycle, investors are still waiting. The Nasdaq Composite Index is 
down 27.7 percent so far this year. 

``Stocks are more volatile than bonds, and there's nothing in history that 
says they'll win every time,'' said Richard Sylla, co- author of ``A History 
of Interest Rates'' and a professor of economic and financial history at New 
York University's Stern School of Business. ``There were people who'd put all 
of their money in stocks. Now they're rediscovering a more balanced approach 
to investing.'' 

It's this shift in attitude that is turning investors onto bonds. Two-year 
notes, among the securities most sensitive to overnight rates set by the Fed, 
have rallied 1.5 percentage points since the start of the year to 3.59 
percent yesterday, the lowest since they were first issued in 1972. They have 
returned 5.4 percent year-to-date, putting them on track to return 8.3 
percent by the end of 2001. 

Ten-year notes have fared the best, returning 6.2 percent since January. On 
an annualized basis, they will return 9.2 percent this year if the current 
rally continues. 

Three Years? 

With some analysts calling for the central bank to lower its target interest 
rate below 3 percent in coming months, the two- year-old bond rally may turn 
into a three-year affair, which hasn't happened since Germany invaded Poland 
in 1939, according to Ibbotson Associates, a Chicago-based research firm. 

Bonds beat stocks in the three years between 1939 and 1941, returning 5.9 
percent, 6.1 percent and 0.9 percent, respectively. The SP posted losses 
during those years, returning -0.4 percent, -9.8 percent, and -11.6 percent. 

Before that, one would have to look to the early years of the Great 
Depression to find the longest string of winning years for bonds and losing 
ones for stocks -- a four-year period between 1929, the year the stock market 
crashed, and 1932. The biggest loss for the SP during that time was in 1931, 
when it returned - 43.3 percent. Bonds returned 16.8 percent a year later, 
according to Ibbotson. 

McTeague at Greenwich Capital Markets predicts that 5- and 10- year Treasury 

Turkey clamps down on mass Kurdish rally

2001-09-01 Thread SOncu

Rob,

I understand very well what you mean when you say being Australian is getting 
difficult. Take a look at what is below to see how difficult it already is to 
be Turkish.

Sabri Oncu

+++ 

Turkey clamps down on mass Kurdish rally

By Ufuk Utkan

  
ANKARA, Sept 1 (Reuters) - Prison cells in the Turkish capital Ankara 
overflowed on Saturday as police detained thousands of Kurds in a bid to stop 
a Kurdish rally planned for the city. 

In Istanbul, Turkey's biggest city, police fired teargas grenades and chased 
away groups of some 2,000 Kurds who had gathered to demonstrate in a suburb. 

Ankara officials sent detained protesters by bus to police stations in nearby 
regions after cells in the city were filled. At least 700 were arrested. 

Thousands of Ankara police, reinforced by colleagues from nearby towns and 
backed by armoured cars and riot squads, had patrolled city streets, checking 
identity papers and detaining hundreds of people, most of whom surrendered to 
police without a struggle. 

The People's Democracy Party (HADEP), which campaigns for Kurdish rights, 
eventually cancelled plans to hold a rally in the city, where officials had 
banned any mass gathering. 

A HADEP spokeswoman said one party supporter died late on Friday, falling to 
his death down a ventilation shaft in a party building in Istanbul where he 
had taken refuge from police. She said the accident happened after police 
broke up a 200-strong group of HADEP supporters about to board buses for 
Ankara. 

They have arrested drivers, confiscated documents and driving licences. They 
have told bus firms we had contracted that they were going nowhere, the 
spokeswoman said. This is directly concerned with our right to freedom of 
movement. 

TEARGAS GRENADES 

In Istanbul, police chased and fired teargas at a group of demonstrators as 
they were dispersing after a rally of some 2,000 in the Topkapi district of 
the city. HADEP officials said around 200 people had been detained. 

In the southeastern city of Batman around 20 people were injured as police 
broke up a gathering of HADEP supporters, the Anatolian news agency said. 

World Peace Day on September 1 has become a traditional protest day for 
Kurdish activists who want cultural rights, or autonomy, for Turkey's 12 
million Kurds. 

Their immediate demands include free use of Kurdish in education and 
broadcasting, aims shared by the European Union which Turkey wants to join. 

The day is also the second anniversary of a move by Kurdish rebels to abandon 
their armed struggle with security forces. 

HADEP had aimed to bring 100,000 people together for the rally, but that 
total looks unlikely now. HADEP officials said around 1,000 had been arrested 
in Istanbul alone. 

Police fired in the air on Friday afternoon in the mainly Kurdish 
southeastern city of Diyarbakir to disperse up to 3,000 people chanting 
slogans in support of jailed Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan. 

Ocalan issued orders from a Turkish jail in 1999, telling his Kurdistan 
Workers Party (PKK) to withdraw from Turkey and give up its armed struggle 
with security forces by September 1. 

Since then, fighting between Turkish forces and the PKK has dwindled, 
although Turkey says the unilateral PKK pullout is a ploy and refused to 
recognise any ceasefire. 

The PKK says it has abandoned its armed struggle for a Kurdish homeland and 
now campaigns peacefully for Kurdish cultural rights within Turkey. 




Our last hope: Allah

2001-08-29 Thread SOncu

Top Turkish cleric says sermons to help lift lira

ANKARA, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Turkey's top Islamic cleric said on Tuesday 
sermons at the country's mosques would urge the faithful to use the battered 
lira currency in an effort to stop the tender's months-long slide against the 
dollar. 

We will only tell the people...if we protect our currency, we will be a 
freer country, Mehmet Nuri Yilmaz told reporters. It is our responsibility 
to enlighten and inform the people. 

An economic crisis has sliced off more than half of the value of the lira 
against the dollar since the government was forced to quit defending it in 
February when political bickering unleashed turmoil in financial markets. 

The lira traded on Tuesday at 1,407,000 to the dollar. 

Observers are concerned the economy is becoming dollarised as investors and 
private citizens sell lira for hard currencies considered safer investments. 
Nearly half of all deposits are now in foreign currencies, analysts said. 

Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit on Monday said he backed a campaign to restore 
confidence in the lira. The effort includes slogans such as National money 
is national honour and Happy is he who uses the Turkish lira. 

The small left-wing Labour Party has even called for the dollar to be 
outlawed in Turkey. 

Our money has become non-transferrable among our citizens, Yilmaz said. 
Our citizens are not shopping, they are not renting homes. This saddens us. 

When asked if the sermons would influence mosque-goers, Yilmaz said: Without 
doubt, they will have an effect. Every citizen who attends Friday prayers 
listens to the sermon with his soul and tries to do what he hears. 

Turkey's population of 65 million people is overwhelmingly Muslim. 




Cutting public spending in Argentina.

2001-08-28 Thread SOncu

[When I read articles like this I usually find myself humming Cry for me 
Argentina. But this time I found myself humming The Autumn Leaves. Don't 
know why.]


ANALYSIS-Key Argentine province faces September debt crunch

By Alejandro Lifschitz

  
BUENOS AIRES, Argentina, Aug 28 (Reuters) - Argentina's wealthiest but most 
heavily-indebted province, Buenos Aires, faces a litmus test in September: it 
must confront huge debt payments with coffers already straining amid economic 
crisis. 

Analysts agree the Argentine federal government, which is having to cope with 
a liquidity crunch of its own as it tries to fend off fears of a debt 
default, could step in to help provincial governments meet their debt 
obligations to head off any debt moratorium if necessary. 

But they warned that Buenos Aires province -- which now accounts for 33 
percent of Argentine economic output and is home to a third of Argentina's 
population of 36 million -- must slash public spending sharply this year to 
avoid problems with its debt load. 

Investors fear an Argentine equivalent of the woes faced by Minas Gerais 
state in Brazil, when its own debt moratorium precipitated the devaluation of 
the real in 1999. 

In September alone, Buenos Aires -- which is run by the main opposition 
Peronists -- must meet $208.34 million in debt expiries, from local debt to 
Eurobonds, official figures show. 

September is a key month, analyst Eduardo Rodriguez Diez of private 
think-tank Fundacion Capital told Reuters. 

Although some of these bonds are held by the central government -- which 
could refinance them -- the main challenge is some $121.92 million in local 
treasury bills which must be repaid by September 19. 

Buenos Aires province's total foreign debt stood at $5.832 billion at the end 
of June, or around 6 percent of its domestic product. 

They have a monthly treasury deficit which does not allow them to cover 
their current obligations, said analyst Sofia Migueliz of international 
ratings agency Fitch Ibca. 

The woes of Buenos Aires province mirror those of Latin America's No. 3 
economy as a whole, after three years without growth. During that time, 
consumption and investment have fallen, fiscal revenues have plunged, and 
public spending has risen along with interest rates. 

The liquidity crisis hit the province so hard it was forced to issue 
so-called patacon bonds to partially pay some state workers' salaries. The 
recipients can use them to pay off their taxes. 

Between January and June, the province had current income of $4.093 billion, 
down from $4.165 billion for the same period last year, while its costs rose 
to $4.731 billion from $4.648 billion. 

Worse still, almost half of the province's revenues come from the central 
government's payment of federal taxes. 

And in exchange for financial aid, the Argentine government has promised the 
International Monetary Fund (IMF) that it will be flexible over the amount it 
gives to the provinces -- which could translate into smaller payments. 

In the first six months of the year Buenos Aires province posted a $282 
million deficit, when it had only been expected to go $24 million into the 
red. 

In the second half, Buenos Aires promised the central government that it 
would cut $500 million from its public spending in exchange for financial 
aid. But analysts feel the slice should be deeper. 

There should be an additional cut, said Fitch Ibca's Migueliz. He believes 
provincial governor Carlos Ruckauf -- a possible contender for 2003 
presidential elections -- should cut state worker salaries and issue more 
patacon bonds to meet September's debt expiries. 

So far Ruckauf has ordered the issuance of $90 million worth of patacon 
bonds, but Migueliz estimates that by the end of the year that sum could rise 
to $600 million. 

I don't think they are going to let a province like Buenos Aires fall, said 
Aldo Abram, analyst at Exante consultancy. With the financing agreed with 
central government and what comes in via patacons, their needs should be 
covered. 

The province agreed to mirror central government measures to cut state worker 
salaries and some pensions to erase the budget deficit for the rest of the 
year. But the provincial legislature has blocked the application of that plan 
to date. 




Re: Re: Distinguished Order of Miserabilists Update

2001-08-28 Thread SOncu

Jim Devine wrote:

but the following question is quite relevant, since anecdotes can easily deceive:What 
are the industry load factors looking like?

+++

I agree. But I fly San Francisco-Boston-San Francisco by United at least once a month 
for the past three years. Call it a long distance commute if you like. So my personal 
sample size is quite large.  The decrease in the number of passengers over the past 
few months is more than noticable. There used to be long lines in front of the entry 
points into the gates area, now there is hardly any line. After much more than half a 
million frequent flier points, they give me free upgrade certificates to the business 
class and until recently the business class had always been packed.  Nowadays, you see 
empty seats.  

Here is another anectode:

I am friends with a shop-owner who sells ties, socks, cigarettes and other similar 
garbage to the customers of Hotel Meridien in Boston. He said a few days ago that the 
occupancy rate at Boston Meridien in July was the worst for the past 10 years. Don't 
know from where he learnt this but you know how news spread in work-places. 

In today' s NYT there is this article entitled: U.S. Airlines Lower Fares to Spur 
Demand. Couldn't find it online but it is on page C8 of the Business Day section, if 
you read the hard copy. Take a look at it if you like.

Sabri




News from Bloomberg

2001-08-28 Thread SOncu

Below, there are two articles from today's Bloomberg. 

In the second of the articles below, an analyst with Lehman Brothers says:

It is not a disaster. It could have been a lot worse.

Also of importance is the statement, which is also in the second article below, from 
the founder and CEO of Gateway: 

We don't have to be a global business to succeed. We know we can succeed in the U.S.

Interesting, isn't it?

A few days ago in Bloomberg, another analyst from an investment shop, which I don't 
recall, referred to the ongoing Argentinian crisis as the slowest train wreck in 
history. 

As they say, get your news from the capitalists. But if you do that, you get very 
angry.

Sabri Oncu

++

08/28 16:27

U.S. Economy: Consumer Confidence Declined in August (Update2)
By Brendan Murray

Washington, Aug. 28 (Bloomberg) -- A gauge of U.S. consumer confidence unexpectedly 
fell in August to the lowest level in four months, a sign the economy may struggle to 
rebound after a yearlong period of the weakest growth since the last recession. 

The Conference Board's consumer confidence index dropped to 114.3 this month from 
116.3 in July. August's level was the lowest since 109.9 in April and reflected a 
decline in optimism about the current state of the economy. A measure of the outlook 
for six months from now rose. 

Job cuts at companies such as Deere  Co. and Hughes Electronics Corp. are weighing on 
consumers' attitudes. In coming months, that may restrain consumer spending, which 
accounts for two-thirds of the economy. 

``The consumer is the last finger hanging on the edge of the cliff, and if we lose 
him,'' the economy may slip into recession, said Mitch Stapley, who helps manage $4 
billion at Fifth Third Investment Advisors in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 

Stocks fell on investor concerns that corporate profits will suffer if consumers cut 
back, while Treasury securities rose on expectations that Federal Reserve policy 
makers will reduce the overnight bank lending rate an eighth time this year. 

Central bankers have reduced the benchmark rate by 3 percentage points to 3.5 percent, 
the lowest since April 1994, to shore up a sputtering economy. While that's helped 
bring down borrowing costs for businesses and consumers, it hasn't kept companies from 
trimming payrolls. 

Job losses are a major concern of Kennis Young, a 40-year-old sales representative 
from College Park, Georgia. ``I'm not going to go out on a limb in this economic 
environment,'' he said. 

Katie McGowan, a 32-year-old Chicago saleswoman, said the economy is in bad shape and 
she knows people who have lost their jobs this year. ``Since nobody is immune, it just 
seems like a silly time to be making selfish financial decisions,'' she said. 

Slow Second Quarter 

The economy grew in the second quarter at a 0.7 percent annual rate, the slowest in 
eight years. The quarter was the fourth in a row with growth at less than 2 percent, 
which last happened during the 1990-1991 recession. 

Central bankers next meet Oct. 2 and the median of 53 analysts in a Bloomberg survey 
expects officials to reduce the target rate to 3.25 percent. 

The government's 10-year Treasury note rose 5/8 point, pushing down its yield 8 basis 
points to 4.84 percent. The Dow Jones Industrial Average declined 160 points, or 1.5 
percent, to close at 10222.03. The Nasdaq Composite Index dropped 47 points, or 2.5 
percent, to close at 1864.98. 

The component of the confidence index that tracks consumers' present situation fell to 
145.8 in August, the lowest level since April 1997, from 151.3. A gauge of consumer 
expectations for the next six months rose to 93.3 from 92.9. 

While, the U.S. Treasury is more than halfway through mailing to taxpayers advance 
refunds of as much as $600 per household, that hasn't done much to shore up 
confidence. As of Aug. 24, the Treasury had sent out about 49 million checks valued at 
almost $21 billion, giving consumers a fresh injection of cash. 

Reason to Spend 

While that may give consumers with reason to keep spending, joblessness is cause for 
concern. New rounds of job-cut announcements at companies such as Deere, the biggest 
maker of farm equipment, are restraining optimism. Yesterday, Deere announced it would 
seek a buyer for its Homelite consumer-brand lawn-care business. Deere also plans to 
reorganize its construction and forestry division, cutting its payroll by about 2,000 
jobs. 

Hughes Electronics, owner of the DirectTV satellite broadcasting service, said last 
week it plans to reduce its U.S. workforce by as much as 10 percent to cut costs as 
the economy slows. Hughes, a unit of General Motors Corp., employs about 7,900 
workers. 

``It's a really sluggish economy and we're heavily into consumer businesses,'' said 
Richard Dore, a spokesman for the company. 

The economy lost 259,000 jobs in the last four months and manufacturing employment 
hasn't increased in the past year, Labor Department 

Re: Fw: NEW DEM DAILY: Help for Argentina: Right Decision; Valuable Lessons

2001-08-27 Thread SOncu

SNIP

During the Asian financial crisis of 1997-99, President Clinton's
international economic team -- Treasury Secretaries Rubin and
Summers, Commerce Secretary Daley, and U.S. Trade
Representatives Kantor and Barshefsky -- provided sound policy
guidance and calm assurance to markets.  

SNIP

Compared to the pros on the field during the crises of the 1990s,
the Bush team is so far turning in a junior-varsity performance.
Let's hope the IMF decision shows they are getting their signals
straight -- and let's also hope the brawling critics on the left and
right sides of the grandstands take the game more seriously.

SNIP

I cannot say that the Bush team is doing a good job but whoever wrote this 
article  gave undue credit to the Clinton team. As we say back home, even my 
father could have contained the Asian Crisis of 1997-1999. It was a 
financial crisis emanating from the periphery/semi-periphery. At that time 
the demand in the core was still strong and the South East Asians were able 
to export to the core, which made it not so difficult for the Clinton team to 
stop the crisis before it reached the core. This time it is different. This 
time it is the core which is the epicenter of the earthquake. This time the 
crisis is emanating from the core and shows all the signs of an 
overproduction crisis. How can one expect the Bush team to solve such a major 
problem? They don't even represent the finance capital and hence their 
interests don't coincide with the interests of the IMF. Further, as Chris 
once said: Global finance capital is at present virtually bankrupt of any 
ideas about what to do about the appalling situation in the world.

Sabri Oncu

P.S: Rob,  thanks for the Miserabilists Update, yoldas.




Re: A strange murder in Turkey

2001-08-26 Thread SOncu

Friends,

If you see anything on this murder in your country' s media, could you please 
let me know?

Best, 
Sabri Oncu




Re: A strange murder in Turkey

2001-08-26 Thread SOncu

This one is from Rueters. I just found it a few munites ago. This sack with 
the word Allah written in blood mentioned below makes me suspect that this is 
the work of a mentally ill juvenile. 

Nestor' s comments on Argentina are interesting. There are mind boggling 
similarities between Turkey and Argentina, as well as many important 
differences. Anyway. Maybe I will write about these later.

Sabri



Boy held after stabbing of Turkish Jewish tycoon

  
ISTANBUL, Aug 26 (Reuters) - Turkish police have arrested a teenage boy on 
suspicion of murdering a leading Turkish-born Jewish businessman found 
stabbed to death in a Muslim cemetery on Saturday, state-run Anatolian news 
agency said. 

Police discovered the body of Uzeyir Garih, a business magnate known for his 
outspoken liberal views, in the Istanbul graveyard less than two hours after 
he had been killed. He had been stabbed eight times. 

Garih was co-chairman of Alarko Holding (ALARK.IS), a major construction 
group active in Russia and Central Asia.   

The motive behind the killing was unclear. Television channels quoted 
security officials as saying the murder was unlikely to have been politically 
motivated. 

But Anatolian said a police search of the graveyard on Sunday turned up a 
sack with the word Allah written on it in blood. Police held Fuat N, a 
suspect described by local media as a mentally ill juvenile, in a nearby 
car as the search continued.




A strange murder in Turkey

2001-08-25 Thread SOncu

Turkish Tycoon Stabbed to Death

By BURAK BAKTIR
The Associated Press

  
ISTANBUL, Turkey, Aug 25, 2001 (AP) - The chairman of one of Turkey's largest 
business holdings and a prominent member of its Jewish community was found 
stabbed to death Saturday, police said. 

A suspect apprehended a few hours later confessed to the killing of 
72-year-old Uzeyir Garih, police said. The suspect's name was not released, 
but local media quoted police sources as saying that he was a mentally 
disturbed Turkish youth and a drug addict. 

Garih headed the ALARKO group, a heating, ventilating and air conditioning 
company that also does construction in Turkey and central Asia. The group 
also is involved in tourism and seafood, and has joint ventures in England, 
Russia, Switzerland and Austria. 

He also wrote a column for the English-language Turkish Daily News in which 
he supported Turkey's expanding relations with Israel and Ankara's bid to 
join the European Union. 

Cemetery officials found Garih's body near the grave of Marshal Fevzi Cakmak, 
an independence war hero who fought invading British, French and Greek forces 
in the 1920s. 

Garih had left his office around noon Saturday after meeting with Bulgaria's 
Deputy Premier Nikolay Vassilev, said Seyit Mehmet Buruk, a spokesman for 
ALARKO. 

He was found stabbed several times about two hours later, private NTV 
television reported. His Mercedes was parked outside the Muslim cemetery. 

``His assassination stunned us,'' the Anatolia news agency quoted Vassilev as 
saying at a news conference. ``We had our picture taken together. But I could 
not imagine that (his life) would have been over a few hours later.'' 

Cash and credit cards were found in his wallet, an unconfirmed news report 
said. 

Cemetery officials said Garih had been paying frequent visits to the Istanbul 
cemetery. Interior Minister Rustu Kazim Yucelen said Garih was visiting the 
grave of someone who had helped him in the past. 

In his last column, which was to be published Sunday, Garih addressed the 
need to restore political confidence to overcome a crippling financial crisis 
that has halved the Turkish lira's value since February. 

``Trust in the government must be restored,'' private CNN-Turk television 
quoted Garih as writing. 

Garih was married with two children.




U.S. Backs Israel in Rejecting UN Monitors in Middle East

2001-08-20 Thread SOncu

U.S. Backs Israel in Rejecting UN Monitors in Middle East
By Bill Varner


United Nations, Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. and Israel told the United 
Nations Security Council that they're against sending UN observers to the 
Middle East, as proposed in a resolution by Islamic nations. 

Twice before, in December and March, the U.S. blocked resolutions that would 
have created an observer force, saying that both sides had to agree to the 
idea. 

``We question the appropriateness and effectiveness of any action here in New 
York,'' Acting U.S. Ambassador James Cunningham said. ``What is required now 
is not rhetoric, not debate that polarizes an already volatile situation, and 
certainly not an effort to condemn one side with unbalanced charges or to 
impose unworkable ideas that will not change the reality on the ground.'' 

Cunningham was referring to the draft resolution of the Islamic Conference, 
which calls for a UN ``monitoring mechanism'' to implement the Mitchell 
Report, which called for a cease-fire and steps to reduce mutual suspicion 
before renewed negotiations. The Islamic resolution also calls on Israel to 
withdraw from the Orient House, the unofficial headquarters of the 
Palestinian Authority in East Jerusalem that Israel seized and closed. 

Israeli Ambassador Yehuda Lancry described the seizure as an ``act of 
self-defense'' because it was being used to carry out terrorist attacks. He 
said Israel's military actions in Gaza and the West Bank were ``in accordance 
with international law.'' 

Lancry said the Islamic resolution condemns Israel without calling on the 
Palestinian Authority to end terrorism, and that a UN monitoring force would 
not be able to stop terrorist attacks. 

Israel Accused of Atrocities 

Palestinian Ambassador Nasser Al-Kidwa accused Israel of atrocities and said 
his government condemns violence directed at civilians. He said the violence 
followed the beginning of the ``bloody military campaign'' by Israel last 
September. 

Samir Abu Zeid, an official of the Palestinian Resistance Movement, died 
Sunday along with two of his children, while making a bomb at his home near 
the Egyptian border, the Israeli army told Reuters. Palestinians said an 
Israeli missile hit the house. 

Israeli bulldozers today leveled two four-story Palestinian apartment blocks 
and a nursery school that Israeli authorities said were being built without 
permission in East Jerusalem, Agence France-Presse reported. 

At the Security Council meeting today, France, China, Tunisia, Singapore and 
Mauritius expressed support for the idea of sending UN troops to the Middle 
East. All of the speakers said implementation of recommendations contained in 
the Mitchell Report was the best means of attaining peace in the region. 

As a permanent member of the Council, the U.S. has the power to veto the 
Islamic resolution. 




Re: Re: Re: Tobin tax - for safe water

2001-08-20 Thread SOncu

Dear Chris,

I have been checking my e-mails before I get ready for a business trip that 
will last until Friday and saw your mail. I am sorry since I don't have the 
time for a lenghty response. I agree with you that this is an important topic 
for discussion. As you might have gathered already, I have no problems with 
actively participating in and supporting the reform struggles. I plan to 
write about my reasons later. Let me say this however: I don't see any 
difference between winning this world and saving it.

I am not sure if I will have the time to write this weekend but I will 
definitely be back with the list the coming Monday. In the mean time, I hope 
this discussion continues on this list without my presence until next week. I 
also hope that such a discussion doesn't lead to major fights.  Let us see if 
you can manage to pleasantly surprise me by not turning this into a major 
fight.

Best and see you next week,

Sabri




Re: Re: Tobin tax - for safe water

2001-08-19 Thread SOncu

Chris wrote:

  Otherwise the best of leftists seem to get bogged down in a muddle of 
  doubts and hesitations, a) its reformist b) its impossible c) it is 
  probably not marxist, d) it's irrelevant because capitalism is going to 
  collapse within 18 months.

Dear Chris,

How do you expect the dog remain calm if you keep biting away at it?

By the way, I personally support the Tobin Tax. Had we had the Tobin Tax or 
some other brake in place, TL wouldn't have depreciated more than 50% since 
February and there wouldn't be such a collective madness in the streets of 
Turkey today. What is going on there is nothing but economic genocide. 

I don't see any reason to be against a pain killer if there is no immediate 
cure to the disease.

Best,
Sabri




Re: OFFLIST: Re: On a recent development in Turkey

2001-08-18 Thread SOncu

Here you go Michael:

http://msanews.mynet.net/MSANEWS/200106/20010613.1.html

This is an article by Ziya Onis, a professor of International Relations at 
Koc University, Istanbul. As I said, he is by no means a radical. He used to 
be an establishment economist and, by the look of it, he is now an 
establishment international relationist, whatever this means. I just came 
across a list of his other works in the page below while searching for the 
above link and the titles of his other works look interesting too:

http://www.ku.edu.tr/ir/

When there, click on Recent Publications in the list on the left of the 
page.

Best, Sabri 

In a message dated 01-08-19 00:16:27 EDT, you write:

  If you are interested in a reasonable but not-so-radical article about
   the turn in Turkish Foreign policy from the Peace in the Country -
   Peace on Earth approach to an imperialist tendency towards the
   Balkans, Middle East and Turkic Republics of the former USSR in the
   early 1990s, I can send you a link later. I have to sign off now. Just
   let me know if there is any interest.
  
  Sabri, I'm interested, if you still have the link handy.
  
  Michael
  




Re: Re: On a recent development in Turkey

2001-08-12 Thread SOncu

In a message dated 01-08-12 16:43:35 EDT, you write:

 Thanks for the information, Sabri and Rob.
  
  The U.S. military has a policy of readiness for wars on 2 1/2 fronts
  simultaneously.  So here we have Turkey and Argentina.  Russia still limps 
  along thanks to higher oil prices.  Brazil seems linked to Argentina.
  
  What order of magnitude lift can come from another half percent interest 
  rate and the tax cuts?

I was just about to sign off so here is a short note:

Rumour also has it that Turkey may enter into war in the Balkans if such a 
war breaks out. I heard this from a few friends and read two or three 
articles about the possibility of a Balkan War in various Turkish newspapers. 

The following is a hard fact though: the high level military and intelligence 
traffic between Turkey and USA has increased significantly. Tennet (sp?), the 
head of CIA, was in Turkey in July. High level military and intelligence 
traffic between Israel and Turkey is quite heavy too, as most members of this 
list would be able to guess.  

While I was there I read in the unofficial party newspaper of the Party of 
Labor (EMEP, Marxist-Leninst and formerly Anwar Hodjaist) ),  Evrensel,  a 
news article on a secret meeting in the offices of the Sabanci Group (ranked 
481st in Forbes 500 this year; Sabanci familiy is the second richest family 
in Turkey) among high ranked US and Turkish military and intelligence 
officers, some cabinet members and several members of the bussiness 
community. Sabanci Group neither accepted nor denied the meeting as far as I 
recall. Of course, I don't take this as proof that the meeting occurred but 
even if this is a rumour, it has some signalling value I would say.

If you are interested in a reasonable but not-so-radical article about the 
turn in Turkish Foreign policy from the Peace in the Country - Peace on 
Earth approach to an imperialist tendency towards the Balkans, Middle East 
and Turkic Republics of the former USSR in the early 1990s, I can send you a 
link later. I have to sign off now. Just let me know if there is any interest.

Best,
Sabri
  




Re: On the Rhetoric of E-Mail

2001-06-30 Thread SOncu

Dear Carrol,

I have been watching PEN-L form the website every now and then, and had no 
intention to re-subscribe. But after reading your e-mail, just to be able to 
respond to you, I re-subscribed and after this e-mail I will unsubscribe. 

By the way: 

HI ROB!

Back to Carrol,

Are you aware that people like me have no idea about the words like below?

Terse
Elliptical
Allusive
Miscontruals

Even Michael Pugliese' s criptics are easier to understand than these at 
times. If it is easier for you, send me some equations and I will understand 
them just fine though. And don't tell me that I should open a dictionary. If 
you do that I will respond to you in Turkish so that you would understand 
what it means to open a dictionary for every single word.

Best and bye you people,
Sabri