Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 4.0 is released!
Congratulations! I've been using the beta for a while and it's _by far_ my favorite release ever! El dia 16/04/2015 12.15, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name va escriure: Huay Congrats you guys for the hard work Norbert Am 16.04.2015 um 11:29 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: Please spread widely. Sorry for multiple posts. (this post can be see here: http://pharo.org/news/pharo-4.0-released) Dear World, Pharo 4.0 (http://www.pharo.org) is here. Pharo is a pure object-oriented programming language and a powerful environment, focused on simplicity and immediate feedback. Many things have changed in Pharo. Here are some highlights: - Inspector/Playground/Spotter are new moldable development tools for inspecting, coding and searching objects. - Slots model instance variables as first class entities and enable meta-programming on this level. - ShoreLine reporter introduces a way to report system errors and collect statistics, that we will use for future improvements - Dark theme. These are just the more prominent highlights, but the details are just as important. We have closed 1697 issues in Pharo 4. Take a moment to go through a more detailed recount of the progress: https://github.com/pharo-project/ChangeLogs/blob/master/Pharo40ChangeLogs.md Pharo is improving on many fronts, but one of the most prominent changes is the addition of moldable tools for inspection and search. These tools provide extension mechanisms that allow every object to define ways in which it can be understood effectively. To provide an idea of the impact of the already existing extensions, the map below shows the Pharo classes grouped in packages, highlighting in red those parts of the system that have at least one such custom view coming with the main distribution. The spread of these extensions shows that moldability is powerful mechanism that can be used in many contexts. Remember that Pharo is your platform. We thank all the contributors of this release: Clara Allende, Jean-Baptiste Arnaud, Jean-Christophe Bach, Philippe Back, Clement Bera, Alexandre Bergel, Torsten Bergmann, Vincent Blondeau, Noury Bouraqadi, Santiago Bragagnolo, Johan Brichau, Sven Van Caekenberghe, Damien Cassou, Nicolas Cellier, Guido Chari, Dimitris Chloupis, Andrei Chis, Ben Coman, Bernardo Contreras, Tommaso Dal Sasso, Jan Van De Sandt, Christophe Demarey, Sean DeNigris, Marcus Denker, Martin Dias, Stephane Ducasse, Stephan Eggermont, Luc Fabresse, Johan Fabry, Hilaire Fernandes, Jerome Garcia, Tudor Girba, Thierry Goubier, Jigyasa Grover, Kris Gybels, Norbert Hartl, Dale Henrichs, Pablo Herrero, Nicolai Hess, Pavel Krivanek, Juraj Kubelka, Jan Kurs, Laurent Laffont, Jannik Laval, Kevin Lanvin, Max Leske, David Lewis, Diego Lont, Esteban Lorenzano, Tim Mackinnon, Attila Magyar, Esteban Maringolo, Stefan Marr, Max Mattone, Martin Mc Clure, Eliot Miranda, Alain Plantec, Guillermo Polito, Damien Pollet, Stefan Reichhart, Mark Rizun, Udo Schneider, Ignacio Sniechowski, Henrik Sperre Johansen, Igor Stasenko, Aliaksei Syrel, Ciprian Teodorov, Camille Teruel, Sebastian Tleye, Yuriy Tymchuk, Peter Uhnak, Andres Valloud, Sven Van Caekenberghe, Thomas Vincent, Jan Vrany, Martin Walk, Richard Wettel, Dmitri Zagidulin And all those who contributed indirectly, by reporting bugs, participating in discussion threads, providing feedback... Pharo 4.0 is another big step. And, the best is yet to come. Enjoy! The Pharo Team ___ Magritte, Pier and Related Tools ... https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/smallwiki
Re: [Pharo-users] Messaging solutions for Pharo
Hi Esteban, did you finally choose MQTT? I'm in the beginning of a project right now where we need to communicate with a bunch of devices and we've considered MQTT, but we don't know whether to use some existing broker like mosquitto or implement it in Pharo. Have you been down this path? Thanks! Bernat. 2014-11-24 11:55 GMT+01:00 Andres Fortier andres.fort...@gmail.com: Hi Stef, thanks! Glad to be doing things in Pharo :) On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:24 AM, stepharo steph...@free.fr wrote: Hello Andres nice to see you on this list :) Stef Le 19/11/14 19:40, Andres Fortier a écrit : Hi Esteban, Never used either of them, but IIRC there was a Jabber package in Visualworks (JabberXMPP?), although not sure if it provided both client and server. There is also http://www.squeaksource.com/@zQrCJXpxIQLxqde8/tV369AO0. Seems dated, but maybe worth a shot considering you only need the server side? HTH, Andrés On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'll be needing to add bidirectional messaging to our current Android (Java) application, and as usual I'm expecting to manage the server side of the communication with Pharo. I'm evaluating two alternatives, but I'm in open to other, proven, options. Option 1. WebSockets Open a WebSocket on each device, and push/retrieve messages from each of these, tracking the device id if I need to recreate a new socket (avoiding recreating new sockets in case of connectivity issues, very common). Option 2. MQTT [1] This is basically a mobile oriented MQ, super low footprint on mobile. For what I saw, I could implement the server using an intermediate MQ (RabbitMQ) and use STOMP to connect to it. Option 3. XMPP [3] Provides several features I'll need in the future, like file transfer in addition to regular text messaging. It is very well supported in Android with Smack [4], but I don't know if we have a Pharo server for it, or if somebody ever played with it. By means of simplicity and use load I favor option 1, because I can understand it better, and as everything moves towards web based technologies, I could implement WAMP [5] on top of that in the future. Right now I'd need to have a hundred websockets opened at the same time, which doesn't sound like a heavy load to me, but I certainly don't know. In the future it could be an order of magnitude bigger, and that's why I don't discard more complex solutions like XMPP or MQTT. Regards! [1] http://mqtt.org/ [2] https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/stamp.md [3] http://xmpp.org/ [4] http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/smack/ [5] http://wamp.ws/ -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4?
Hi Pierce! I was just trying to open a connection as follows: NBSQLite3Connection openOn: 'test.db' The top of the stack says Error: Could not find accessor for variable named symbolName in NativeBoost#bootstrapLoadSymbol:ofLength:fromModule:into: Are you using Linux as well? 2015-04-05 15:48 GMT+02:00 Pierce Ng pie...@samadhiweb.com: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 03:08:56PM +0200, Bernat Romagosa wrote: I've been trying out some simple persistence options on Pharo 4 and I can't seem to get NBSQLite3 to work. Is it compatible with Pharo 4? As I've just written a blog post on Glorp-NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4 this long weekend, the answer is yes. :-) I don't think I've encountered the stack trace that you provided too many times. What is the Smalltalk code you were executing? Pierce -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4?
I've been trying out some simple persistence options on Pharo 4 and I can't seem to get NBSQLite3 to work. I have the 32 bits lib present and where it should be, and this is the error I'm getting when opening a new connection: NBFFICalloutloaderForArgNamed: NBFFICalloutloaderForArgNamed:indirectIndex: NBFFICalloutargName:indirectIndex:type:ptrArity: NBFnSpecParserparseArgument NBFnSpecParserparseArguments NBFnSpecParserparseAnonFunction: NBFFICalloutanonSpec: [ :t3 | t3 useEmitCall; callType: conv; sender: context; parseOptions: options; anonSpec: t1; generate: t2 ] in NBFFICalloutAPIfunction:emit: in Block: [ :t3 | ... [ t6 := t1 value: (self newForMethod: t3) ] in NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)generateCode:andRetry: in Block: [ t6 := t1 value: (self newForMethod: t3) ] BlockClosureon:do: NBRecursionDetect classin:during: NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)generateCode:andRetry: NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)handleFailureIn:nativeCode: NBFFICalloutAPIfunction:emit: NativeBoostLinux32(NativeBoost)bootstrapLoadSymbol:ofLength:fromModule:into: NativeBoostLinux32(NativeBoost)loadSymbol:fromModule: NativeBoostLinux32loadSymbol:fromModule: NativeBoost classloadSymbol:fromModule: NBSQLite3FFI class(Object)nbGetSymbolAddress:module: NBFFICalloutgenerateCall:module: [ :t3 | t3 callType: conv; sender: context; parseOptions: options; generateCall: t1 module: t2 ] in NBFFICalloutAPIfunction:module: in Block: [ :t3 | ... [ t6 := t1 value: (self newForMethod: t3) ] in NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)generateCode:andRetry: in Block: [ t6 := t1 value: (self newForMethod: t3) ] BlockClosureon:do: NBRecursionDetect classin:during: NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)generateCode:andRetry: NBFFICallout class(NBNativeCodeGen class)handleFailureIn:nativeCode: NBFFICalloutAPIfunction:module: NBSQLite3FFI(Object)nbCall:module: NBSQLite3FFIapiOpen:via: NBSQLite3FFIopen:via: Is it compatible with Pharo 4? -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] PUnQLite NB error
Ok, forget that! It seems the configuration downloads the unqlite.so library into the wrong path... just moving it to the image folder did the trick. 2015-04-05 11:26 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Hi list, I'm trying to get Masashi's PUnQLite package to work in Pharo 4 under Ubuntu, and here's what happens when I try to run the example code: |db| db := PqDatabase open: 'comments.db'. db disableAutoCommit. db transact: [ Object subclasses do: [:cls | | key | key := cls asString. db at: key put: cls comment ] ]. db close. Any idea what can be happening here? Thanks! :) Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] PUnQLite NB error
Hi list, I'm trying to get Masashi's PUnQLite package to work in Pharo 4 under Ubuntu, and here's what happens when I try to run the example code: |db| db := PqDatabase open: 'comments.db'. db disableAutoCommit. db transact: [ Object subclasses do: [:cls | | key | key := cls asString. db at: key put: cls comment ] ]. db close. Any idea what can be happening here? Thanks! :) Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4?
Ok, I just figured for some reason it doesn't work when I'm using Pharo via PharoLauncher... I just got the latest pharo4 for Linux, image + vm, and NBSQLite3 worked out of the box. Hope it helps somebody else! 2015-04-05 16:01 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Hi Pierce! I was just trying to open a connection as follows: NBSQLite3Connection openOn: 'test.db' The top of the stack says Error: Could not find accessor for variable named symbolName in NativeBoost#bootstrapLoadSymbol:ofLength:fromModule:into: Are you using Linux as well? 2015-04-05 15:48 GMT+02:00 Pierce Ng pie...@samadhiweb.com: On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 03:08:56PM +0200, Bernat Romagosa wrote: I've been trying out some simple persistence options on Pharo 4 and I can't seem to get NBSQLite3 to work. Is it compatible with Pharo 4? As I've just written a blog post on Glorp-NBSQLite3 on Pharo 4 this long weekend, the answer is yes. :-) I don't think I've encountered the stack trace that you provided too many times. What is the Smalltalk code you were executing? Pierce -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] quick poll - which OS do you use for Pharo?
I think that's because we GNU/Linux users tend to reply quicker when asked which OS we use. El dia 31/03/2015 7.58, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com va escriure: more linux than mac ? thats a surprise . On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:39 AM, Peter Uhnák i.uh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've made a quick poll because I'm interested in the distribution of Pharo users among OSes. It's a single anonymous question, so it shouldn't take more than five seconds to complete :) http://strawpoll.me/4001583 Thanks :) Peter
Re: [Pharo-users] Datathon for development in Paris
Hi Serge, Do you know if these data will stay open and public after the event? At the Citilab we're working a lot with open data and we're constantly looking for new sources. I don't think we'll be able to come to Paris though... El dia 12/03/2015 12.20, Serge Stinckwich serge.stinckw...@gmail.com va escriure: Dear all, something that might interest some of you. There will be a datathon organized in Paris in collaboration with the MIT about data development in African countries from April 7th to 9th. Some companies and NGOs will provide open data. Orange, the telecom provider will provided some data about communication between local antennas and also trajectories log of people. I have the idea of having a small team using ROASSAL for participating to the datathon and doing some nice vizualisations. Anyone interested to made a team ? You could find more information about this event here: http://simplon.co/blog/2015/3/7/datathon-data-for-development-rdv-les-7-8-et-9-avril-montreuil- sorry only in French. Regards -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/
Re: [Pharo-users] Mea Culpa
Hey Richard, I believe the only alive cross-dialect space is the #smalltalk IRC channel in FreeNode. There's an average of 25~30 people online in that channel, which is not _too_ bad considering the size of our community. Still, compare that to, say, #lisp, with ~400 users and also being a cross-dialect channel. Smalltalkers feel quite strong about their particular dialect. I'm not criticizing this behavior, I'm just stating facts. I also have strong feelings for my dialects and I don't think this is necessarily bad. However, there are some de-facto meeting points for all Smalltalks, like http://world.st. Even though there is no mailing list that joins all of us together, this space does feature a homogenized list of all forums ( http://forum.world.st/). Planet Smalltalk (http://planet.smalltalk.org/) is another great one for those of us who use RSS feeds. Indeed, it could take quite a while before a generic Smalltalk list was populated enough, but these two efforts show there might be an interest. Cheers, Bernat. 2015-01-22 9:11 GMT+01:00 Martin Bähr mba...@email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at: Excerpts from kilon alios's message of 2015-01-22 08:13:57 +0100: Popularity indeed comes with a high price. Guido the creator of python he has said in one of his presentation that there many people who want to add their libraries to python distribution but they should not want to do that, because once a library is added it become very difficult to change since so many people depend on it to keep backward compatibility. He claimed that even simple bug fixes have to go through lengthy review process. This can be expanded to the entirety of the IDE and the language. This the most important reason why pharo has been moving forward so fast and why popular languages move at glacial speed. I dont want to lose that so yes I dont want for pharo to become popular. squeak already hast that 'problem' i believe and pharo is actively working to counteract it by removing less important things. so i doubt pharo will suffer from the pressure to fill it up with new packages any time soon. in this case it may be a win for all because those who want backwards compatibility can choose squeak, and those who want fast paced action may use pharo. also craig with context is working on minimizing the images which i believe should help to move more and more things out of the core, allowing you to pull them back in, making it possible to choose from various versions, based on your compatibility needs. ironically, i actually expect to want backwards compatibility in the future. but backwards to now, not to a decade ago, so i hope pharo development will eventually slow down somewhat. in addition, the multiple smalltalk implementations also act as a stabilizing factor, because people will want to write code that runs on all of them. (seaside for example) so pharo can't go that far out of line and make itself completely incompatible. i am also not sure which is better. a large standard library makes for a more stable system. having lots of important 3rd party libraries can lead to dependency issues... greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.secaudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin Bähr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/ -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [ Book Review ] Lauren Ipsum
This book is a must read! I use many of its metaphors all the time when teaching! :) It just takes an afternoon to read it, don't miss it. 2015-01-15 16:28 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Every now and then you come across a book that is special. A couple that I remember are 'Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs' by Harold Abelson and Gerald Jay Sussman for its high level of abstraction over petty details and its breath of subjects, 'The Little Schemer' by Daniel Friedman for its mind blowing QA style introduction to recursive thinking or 'The Connection Machine' by Danny Hillis, a doctoral thesis that read like a science fiction novel. Closer to Pharo, 'Smalltalk Best Practice Patters' by Kent Beck surprises by being deceptively simple yet profound and by transcending the language for general object design principles. 'A Mentoring Course on Smalltalk' by Andres Valloud manages to bring across very advanced ideas mostly by discussing the implementation of one or two relatively simple problems. So what about a (children's) book about computer science without any (pseudo) code or math ? And make it fun too, please. 'Lauren Ipsum' by Carlos Bueno and Ytaelena Lopez [ http://www.laurenipsum.org ] does just that. It is a story about a girl that is lost in some magic land and wants to get home. Along the way the fundamental principles of computer science get woven into the story - as if they were the most normal thing in the world (which they are). I was smiling all the time, for all the little jokes and references, although many of those will be lost on those that are not computer nerds. Graph searching, reader writer problems, abstraction, heuristics, networking, communication and so on are all part of the story. Beautiful. I read the e-book version in iBooks on my iPhone without any layout problems. Recommended. Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] inria survey
Hi Stef, What should I enter under Establishment? Is it the company/institution where one works/studies? Cheers! Bernat. 2014-11-06 11:45 GMT+01:00 stepharo steph...@free.fr: Hi guys you can help us to improve our communication as a research center. Please take some minutes to fill this little survey. Stef -- VERSION FRANÇAISE -- Créé depuis 2002 à Lille, le centre de recherche Inria Lille - Nord Europe souhaite faire un point d’étape sur sa notoriété et s’interroge sur l’image qu’il véhicule auprès des différents publics avec lesquels il collabore. Industriels, partenaires académiques, collectivités, chercheurs, journalistes, fournisseurs, étudiants, lycéens… Nous voulons savoir si vous nous connaissez bien et si vous auriez envie d’en savoir plus. Vos avis nous intéressent alors n’hésitez pas à compléter le questionnaire avant le 28 novembre. David Simplot-Ryl directeur Inria Lille - Nord Europe En pratique ; Lien vers le questionnaire : https://sondages.inria.fr/ index.php/632788?lang=fr Clôture de l’enquête le 28 novembre. Temps de réponse au questionnaire : moins de 10min. Les résultats de l’enquête seront communiqués en 2015. http://www.inria.fr/centre/lille/actualites/enquete-sur- l-image-du-centre-inria-lille-nord-europe ENGLISH VERSION Created since 2002 in Lille, the Inria Lille - Nord Europe research center wish to make a report on its reputation and its image. Industrial and academic partners, researchers, journalists , suppliers, students,... We want to know if you know us well and if you would like to learn more. We are interested in your opinion then do not hesitate to complete the questionnaire before 28 November. David Simplot- Ryl director Inria Lille - Nord Europe David Simplot-Ryl director Inria Lille - Nord Europe In practice ; Link to the survey :https://sondages.inria.fr/index.php/632788?lang=fr (select English) Deadline to respond 28 November. Questionnaire response time : less than 10 minutes. The results of the survey will be released in 2015. http://www.inria.fr/en/centre/lille/news/inria-lille-nord-europe-survey -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
Ok, I found this: https://github.com/tide-framework/tide-doc/blob/master/documentation.pier.md Hope it helps other people too! :) 2014-09-05 18:37 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: The slides are cool, but I really don't quite understand how Tide works... I tried to reproduce the Hero example, but when asking my lair for heroes (from the client side) I got: TDClient promiseNotFound: No promise was found for selector heroes It'd be great if someone wrote a getting started tutorial, a simple ToDo would be more than enough. Marina is way too complex to grasp how the framework works, and the counter example is way too simple. I'd do it myself, but of course I don't know the first thing about Tide! :P 2014-09-04 9:37 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : Pull request sent. Phill, you need to use the latest bower. I'd uninstall and reinstall again: $ npm uninstall bower $ npm install bower -g Then just follow the tutorial, you don't need to modify bower.json or anything. Stef, thanks! I'll check these slides. Cheers, Bernat. 2014-09-03 16:50 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: I tried to get this working. bower installed Tide loaded as per the slides (with some fiddling as what is there doesn't work). Then TDDispatcher tideIndexPageUrl inspect gives http://localhost:/tide/tide/index.html (Why that 'tide' twice in there?) And there, no helios or anything. But that may be because I used the wrong bower 1.2.6 version and set stable for Amber as the commit number didn't work. So, Bernat, which bower and which amber in bower.json ? TIA Phil -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
The slides are cool, but I really don't quite understand how Tide works... I tried to reproduce the Hero example, but when asking my lair for heroes (from the client side) I got: TDClient promiseNotFound: No promise was found for selector heroes It'd be great if someone wrote a getting started tutorial, a simple ToDo would be more than enough. Marina is way too complex to grasp how the framework works, and the counter example is way too simple. I'd do it myself, but of course I don't know the first thing about Tide! :P 2014-09-04 9:37 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Pull request sent. Phill, you need to use the latest bower. I'd uninstall and reinstall again: $ npm uninstall bower $ npm install bower -g Then just follow the tutorial, you don't need to modify bower.json or anything. Stef, thanks! I'll check these slides. Cheers, Bernat. 2014-09-03 16:50 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: I tried to get this working. bower installed Tide loaded as per the slides (with some fiddling as what is there doesn't work). Then TDDispatcher tideIndexPageUrl inspect gives http://localhost:/tide/tide/index.html (Why that 'tide' twice in there?) And there, no helios or anything. But that may be because I used the wrong bower 1.2.6 version and set stable for Amber as the commit number didn't work. So, Bernat, which bower and which amber in bower.json ? TIA Phil -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
Pull request sent. Phill, you need to use the latest bower. I'd uninstall and reinstall again: $ npm uninstall bower $ npm install bower -g Then just follow the tutorial, you don't need to modify bower.json or anything. Stef, thanks! I'll check these slides. Cheers, Bernat. 2014-09-03 16:50 GMT+02:00 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be: I tried to get this working. bower installed Tide loaded as per the slides (with some fiddling as what is there doesn't work). Then TDDispatcher tideIndexPageUrl inspect gives http://localhost:/tide/tide/index.html (Why that 'tide' twice in there?) And there, no helios or anything. But that may be because I used the wrong bower 1.2.6 version and set stable for Amber as the commit number didn't work. So, Bernat, which bower and which amber in bower.json ? TIA Phil -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Tide installation
Hi list! I wanted to try out Tide, and I'm following the steps at: https://github.com/tide-framework/tide However, I can't get through the bower install step. Here's the output: bower amber#0efe3ad09 not-cached git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolve git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 ENORESTARGET Tag/branch 0efe3ad09 does not exist Additional error details: Available tags: 0.10, 0.10.0, 0.11.0, 0.12.0, 0.12.1, 0.12.2, 0.12.3, 0.12.4, 0.12.6, 0.13.0-alpha.1, 0.13.0-alpha.2, 0.9, 0.9.1, legacy, legacy2, legacy3-iife Available branches: 0.13-prereleases, camillo-hacks, chromeos, gh-pages, master, moka, nemo, nw-helios-app, stable, website-deployment I changed 0efe3ad09 for stable in bower.json and it failed with: bower amber#stable not-cached git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#stable bower amber#stable resolve git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#stable bower amber#stablecheckout stable bower amber#stable error Arguments to path.join must be strings Stack trace: TypeError: Arguments to path.join must be strings at path.js:360:15 at Array.filter (native) at Object.exports.join (path.js:358:36) at GitHubResolver.GitResolver._cleanup (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/core/resolvers/GitResolver.js:182:26) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/core/resolvers/GitResolver.js:74:25 at Promise.apply (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:1122:26) at Promise.promise.promiseDispatch (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:752:41) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:1337:14 at flush (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:108:17) at process._tickCallback (node.js:415:13) Console trace: Trace at StandardRenderer.error (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/renderers/StandardRenderer.js:74:17) at Logger.updateNotifier.packageName (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/bin/bower:109:18) at Logger.EventEmitter.emit (events.js:95:17) at Logger.emit (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/bower-logger/lib/Logger.js:29:39) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/commands/install.js:28:16 at _rejected (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:808:24) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:834:30 at Promise.when (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:1079:31) at Promise.promise.promiseDispatch (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:752:41) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:574:44 System info: Bower version: 1.2.6 Node version: 0.10.25 OS: Linux 3.11.0-19-generic x64 I'm kind of stuck, any tips? Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
My bad! Forget my previous email! Sorry. 2014-09-02 18:16 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Hola Esteban! Thanks, but it's still failing (although it progressed a little bit further): bower amber#0efe3ad09 not-cached git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolve git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09short-sha Consider using longer commit SHA to avoid conflicts bower amber#0efe3ad09 checkout 0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolved git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower jquery-tabby#*cached git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#925c5a416a bower jquery-tabby#* validate 925c5a416a against git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#* bower jquery#~1.10.2cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#1.10.2 bower jquery#~1.10.2 validate 1.10.2 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#~1.10.2 bower showdown#~0.3.1 cached git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#0.3.1 bower showdown#~0.3.1 validate 0.3.1 against git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#~0.3.1 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 cached git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#3.3.2 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 validate 3.3.2 against git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#~3.3.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0cached git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#3.24.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0 validate 3.24.0 against git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#~3.24.0 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2 cached git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#2.3.2 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2validate 2.3.2 against git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#~2.3.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 cached git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 validate 1.10.4 against git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower require-css#~0.1.2cached git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.4 bower require-css#~0.1.2 validate 0.1.4 against git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3new version for git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3resolve git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 download https://github.com/components/jqueryui/archive/1.10.4.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 new version for git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolve git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 download https://github.com/guybedford/require-css/archive/0.1.5.tar.gz bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#2.0.3 bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 validate 2.0.3 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#=1.8.0 2.1.0 bower require-css#~0.1.2 extract archive.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolved git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.5 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3extract archive.tar.gz bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 invalid-meta jquery-ui is missing ignore entry in bower.json bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 resolved git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower EACCES EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Stack trace: Error: EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Console trace: Trace at StandardRenderer.error (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/renderers/StandardRenderer.js:72:17) at Logger.anonymous (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/bin/bower:110:22) at Logger.EventEmitter.emit (events.js:95:17) at Logger.emit (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/bower-logger/lib/Logger.js:29:39) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/commands/index.js:40:20 at _rejected (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:797:24) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:823:30 at Promise.when (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:1035:31) at Promise.promise.promiseDispatch (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:741:41) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:557:44 System info: Bower version: 1.3.9 Node version: 0.10.25 OS: Linux 3.11.0-19-generic x64 Should I add jquery-ui to the ignore array in bower.json? 2014-09-02 17:15 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: yeah, doc is bad… you need to install the newest bower, not the version specifies there. cheers, Esteban On 02 Sep 2014, at 17:05, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list! I wanted to try out Tide, and I'm
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
Hey, it looks really nice. Is there any documentation around? Any getting started tutorial or bigger project I can take a look at? I don't exactly get how proxying works. I inspected the TDCounter instance in Pharo and I see it's persisting its value, but I don't get how's the widget getting to it: TDClientProxy on: '/counter' Is '/counter' an entry point? If so, where is it defined? I can't find it anywhere. 2014-09-02 18:27 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: My bad! Forget my previous email! Sorry. 2014-09-02 18:16 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : Hola Esteban! Thanks, but it's still failing (although it progressed a little bit further): bower amber#0efe3ad09 not-cached git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolve git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09short-sha Consider using longer commit SHA to avoid conflicts bower amber#0efe3ad09 checkout 0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolved git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower jquery-tabby#*cached git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#925c5a416a bower jquery-tabby#* validate 925c5a416a against git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#* bower jquery#~1.10.2cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#1.10.2 bower jquery#~1.10.2 validate 1.10.2 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#~1.10.2 bower showdown#~0.3.1 cached git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#0.3.1 bower showdown#~0.3.1 validate 0.3.1 against git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#~0.3.1 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 cached git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#3.3.2 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 validate 3.3.2 against git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#~3.3.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0cached git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#3.24.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0 validate 3.24.0 against git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#~3.24.0 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2 cached git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#2.3.2 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2validate 2.3.2 against git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#~2.3.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 cached git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 validate 1.10.4 against git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower require-css#~0.1.2cached git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.4 bower require-css#~0.1.2 validate 0.1.4 against git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3new version for git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3resolve git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 download https://github.com/components/jqueryui/archive/1.10.4.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 new version for git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolve git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 download https://github.com/guybedford/require-css/archive/0.1.5.tar.gz bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#2.0.3 bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 validate 2.0.3 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#=1.8.0 2.1.0 bower require-css#~0.1.2 extract archive.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolved git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.5 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3extract archive.tar.gz bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 invalid-meta jquery-ui is missing ignore entry in bower.json bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 resolved git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower EACCES EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Stack trace: Error: EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Console trace: Trace at StandardRenderer.error (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/renderers/StandardRenderer.js:72:17) at Logger.anonymous (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/bin/bower:110:22) at Logger.EventEmitter.emit (events.js:95:17) at Logger.emit (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/bower-logger/lib/Logger.js:29:39) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/lib/commands/index.js:40:20 at _rejected (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:797:24) at /usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:823:30 at Promise.when (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:1035:31) at Promise.promise.promiseDispatch (/usr/local/lib/node_modules/bower/node_modules/q/q.js:741:41) at /usr/local/lib
Re: [Pharo-users] Tide installation
Thanks Tim, I'll take a look at it. Unfortunately I couldn't attend this year :( In the meantime I've just found out where the counter entry point is defined: TDDispatcher setupDefault default := self new. default registerHandler: ((TDFileHandler path: 'tide') directoryPath: '.'; yourself); registerHandler: ((TDPresenterHandler path: 'counter') rootPresenterClass: TDCounter; yourself) Nice! 2014-09-02 18:57 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon tim@testit.works: You can try watching the ESUG video from this year on: http://goo.gl/E1VF53 The presentation that Esteban gave was great - and it also inspired me to look at this some more too. Tim On 2 Sep 2014, at 17:46, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, it looks really nice. Is there any documentation around? Any getting started tutorial or bigger project I can take a look at? I don't exactly get how proxying works. I inspected the TDCounter instance in Pharo and I see it's persisting its value, but I don't get how's the widget getting to it: TDClientProxy on: '/counter' Is '/counter' an entry point? If so, where is it defined? I can't find it anywhere. 2014-09-02 18:27 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : My bad! Forget my previous email! Sorry. 2014-09-02 18:16 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Hola Esteban! Thanks, but it's still failing (although it progressed a little bit further): bower amber#0efe3ad09 not-cached git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolve git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09short-sha Consider using longer commit SHA to avoid conflicts bower amber#0efe3ad09 checkout 0efe3ad09 bower amber#0efe3ad09 resolved git:// github.com/amber-smalltalk/amber.git#0efe3ad09 bower jquery-tabby#*cached git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#925c5a416a bower jquery-tabby#* validate 925c5a416a against git:// github.com/alanhogan/Tabby.git#* bower jquery#~1.10.2cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#1.10.2 bower jquery#~1.10.2 validate 1.10.2 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#~1.10.2 bower showdown#~0.3.1 cached git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#0.3.1 bower showdown#~0.3.1 validate 0.3.1 against git:// github.com/coreyti/showdown.git#~0.3.1 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 cached git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#3.3.2 bower es5-shim#~3.3.0 validate 3.3.2 against git:// github.com/es-shims/es5-shim.git#~3.3.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0cached git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#3.24.0 bower codemirror#~3.24.0 validate 3.24.0 against git:// github.com/marijnh/CodeMirror.git#~3.24.0 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2 cached git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#2.3.2 bower bootstrap#~2.3.2validate 2.3.2 against git:// github.com/alonisser/bower-bootstrap-2.3.2-legacy.git#~2.3.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 cached git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 validate 1.10.4 against git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower require-css#~0.1.2cached git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.4 bower require-css#~0.1.2 validate 0.1.4 against git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3new version for git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3resolve git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#~1.10.3 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 download https://github.com/components/jqueryui/archive/1.10.4.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 new version for git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolve git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#~0.1.2 bower require-css#~0.1.2 download https://github.com/guybedford/require-css/archive/0.1.5.tar.gz bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 cached git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#2.0.3 bower jquery#=1.8.0 2.1.0 validate 2.0.3 against git:// github.com/jquery/jquery.git#=1.8.0 2.1.0 bower require-css#~0.1.2 extract archive.tar.gz bower require-css#~0.1.2 resolved git:// github.com/guybedford/require-css.git#0.1.5 bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3extract archive.tar.gz bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 invalid-meta jquery-ui is missing ignore entry in bower.json bower jquery-ui#~1.10.3 resolved git:// github.com/components/jqueryui.git#1.10.4 bower EACCES EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Stack trace: Error: EACCES, mkdir '/home/nabax/myproject/github-cache/tide-framework/tide/master/tide-framework-tide-252a3d8/bower_components' Console trace: Trace at StandardRenderer.error
Re: [Pharo-users] Workbook, exercises and problems
I solved many exercices in Project Euler a couple years ago. I'll see if I still remember my username and let you know! On Aug 25, 2014 5:48 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Start with Pharo by Example (PBE), http://pharo.org/documentation Teaching/learning design/style is plain hard and takes times. On 25 Aug 2014, at 16:40, Ichiseki is...@outlook.com wrote: I would love to do that but: I have neither a good understanding of smalltalk not pharo. I don't have a good OO style - I come from a Functional paradigm- I'm not used to variables Of course I've been trying with some of them. But wanted to know it there was a way to check the answers. Not only if they are correct, also if they are in a good OO/Pharo/ST style. thanks Ichiro -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Workbook-exercises-and-problems-tp4774634p4774642.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [Pharo-users] Commandline
I've used GST in the past for simple scripting too. Worth a try! 2014-07-24 13:24 GMT+02:00 Robert Shiplett grshipl...@gmail.com: I run server-side JavaScript but would not dream of using JS to do jobs ! Humour : for years the command-line params for VW Smalltalk were some kind of unpublished hush-hush secret for build mavens and image-stripping gurus on hp/ux servers. Not so for Gnu Smalltalk ;-) There is always APL ;-) On 24 July 2014 07:37, Norbert Hartl norb...@hartl.name wrote: What are you using to do jobs on the commandline. I'm sick of doing bash and sed,perl,jq,... stuff. What would be the quickest start when using a normal image? And what if I want to give coral a start. Does it work in 3.0? Best place to load stuff from? thanks, Norbert -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Emails
Check out world.st, all smalltalk lists are accessible there in a forum-like fashion. On Jun 9, 2014 3:25 PM, Bob Williams rwilliam...@cox.net wrote: This may sound stupid, but I want to answer a specific email and all I have is the Pharo-user Digest. When I started following Pharo I had a link to a Web page that showed the emails by subject and author; however, I seem to have lost that link. All I have now is the digest and the archives. Can anyone help me?
Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?
Installing Alien proved to be quite a challenge... but I managed! Now I got an instance of ObjectiveCAlien that (I think) represents some kind of dock object, but I don't really know what to do with it... Here's what I have: #NSApplication inObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile What kind of methods does this take? I see ObjectiveCAlien is a proxy, so I can't really browse what messages can I send it. Any hints? Thanks!!! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:44 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: OK! I'll try that! You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;) Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano, Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :) I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it without any command-line knowledge. Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace Alien now? yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time to do it :( ) better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.) :) Esteban Thanks! Bernat. 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Hi Bernat, About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: Hello there, For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. I wanted to thanks Square [i] International http://www.square-i.net/ for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send - headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the flash while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you should see that Seaside is running. I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?
Hi Esteban, The configuration didn't work out of the box. I had to load the bleeding edge version from the configuration, then manually load the latest Core and all MacOSX packages from the MC repo. I'll check appkido, thanks a lot! :) Bernat. 2014-05-30 14:17 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 30 May 2014, at 08:00, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Installing Alien proved to be quite a challenge... but I managed! why? configuration should work out of the box. Now I got an instance of ObjectiveCAlien that (I think) represents some kind of dock object, but I don't really know what to do with it... Here's what I have: #NSApplication inObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile What kind of methods does this take? I see ObjectiveCAlien is a proxy, so I can't really browse what messages can I send it. Any hints? you can browse the Cocoa documentation (I use http://appkido.com but you need xcode installed and docs intalled too). Esteban Thanks!!! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:44 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : OK! I'll try that! You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;) Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano, Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :) I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it without any command-line knowledge. Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace Alien now? yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time to do it :( ) better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.) :) Esteban Thanks! Bernat. 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com : Hi Bernat, About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: Hello there, For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. I wanted to thanks Square [i] International http://www.square-i.net/ for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send - headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the flash while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you should see that Seaside is running. I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed Once
Re: [Pharo-users] Cloud Shoppie - App Contest Poll
Voted! By the way, there are two small typos in the landing page: any store in your are*a* all encompassing online *the* store. Good luck! :) 2014-05-29 8:20 GMT+02:00 Thushar G R thushar...@gmail.com: Hi All http://letsbuildkaec.challengepost.com/submissions/23789-cloud-shoppie This is an iOS/Android application with server developed in Pharo Smalltalk(Seaside-REST). There is a video explaining the application and a link to vote for the application. We are a start up with a team of 8 smalltalkers and would greatly appreciate your valuable support and feedback. Thanks In Advance. G R Thushar -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?
Hi list, is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?
OK! I'll try that! You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;) Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mariano, Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :) I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it without any command-line knowledge. Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace Alien now? yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time to do it :( ) better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile … (and etc.) :) Esteban Thanks! Bernat. 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com: Hi Bernat, About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: Hello there, For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. I wanted to thanks Square [i] International http://www.square-i.net/ for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): keyLSBackgroundOnly/key true/ When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send - headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the flash while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port . You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:, you should see that Seaside is running. I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Pharo3 for Debian
Hi list, I'm afraid the vm shipped in the latest stable Pharo version is not working for Debian. Neither is the latest VM downloadable from the project page or the latest of the versions downloadable from the file server. This is the error I get: (...)/pharo3.0/bin/pharo: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by (...)/pharo3.0/bin/pharo) So I'm currently using an older VM to work with Pharo3.0 on Debian: NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Jenkins build #14535 I've tried the latest Pharo3 package under Ubuntu in another box and it works perfectly, so I guess the official VMs are compiled for Ubuntu. Maybe it'd be good to specify this in the project page and provide a package with the VM compiled for other linuxes? Cheers! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] pharo-vm-nox command line
Hi list, Is there a way to issue commands to an image via pharo-vm-nox on a headless server and not have it stop immediately after running them? This keeps the image running, but the command is not sent to it: *pharo-vm-nox StarUOCs.image --no-quit eval Transcript show: 'hi'* This is working, but the image quits after the command is run: *pharo-vm-nox StarUOCs.image eval Transcript show: 'hi'* Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] pharo-vm-nox command line
Cool, working now. Thanks Sven! :) 2014-05-02 12:15 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: Try $ ./pharo Pharo.image printVersion [version] 3.0 #30845 $ ./pharo Pharo.image eval --no-quit '42 factorial' 14050061177528798985431426062445115699363840 it keeps the image running after printing the result of the expression. On 02 May 2014, at 11:56, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Is there a way to issue commands to an image via pharo-vm-nox on a headless server and not have it stop immediately after running them? This keeps the image running, but the command is not sent to it: pharo-vm-nox StarUOCs.image --no-quit eval Transcript show: 'hi' This is working, but the image quits after the command is run: pharo-vm-nox StarUOCs.image eval Transcript show: 'hi' Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: *pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true* then: *pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start* results in: *UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) * *MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil* Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
I see, thanks a lot! :) 2014-05-02 13:45 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: The best approach is to use Configurations and the config handler: $ ./pharo Pharo.image config Command line handler for dealing with Metacello configurations from the command line Usage: config [--help] repository url [configuration] [--install[=version]] [--group=group] [--username=username] [--password=password] --help show this help message repository urlA Monticello repository name configuration A valid Metacello Configuration name version A valid version for the given configuration group A valid Metacello group name username An optional username to access the configuration's repository password An optional password to access the configuration's repository Examples: # display this help message pharo Pharo.image config # list all configurations of a repository pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL # list all the available versions of a confgurtation pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo # install the stable version pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install #install a specific version '1.5' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 #install a specific version '1.5' and only a specific group 'Tests' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 --group=Tests The following article contains this approach as well: http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/#deployingforproduction HTH, Sven On 02 May 2014, at 13:28, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true then: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start results in: UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
Hmm it doesn't seem to work... *pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main* *KeyNotFound: key #ConfigurationOfStarUOCs not found in SystemDictionary* But the config is there and I can load it from the GUI by doing: *Gofer new* * smalltalkhubUser: 'bromagosa' project: 'StarUOCs';* * package: 'ConfigurationOfStarUOCs';* * load.* *ConfigurationOfStarUOCs load.* What can be happening? My version is: *pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image printVersion* *[version] 3.0 #30846* 2014-05-02 13:51 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: I see, thanks a lot! :) 2014-05-02 13:45 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: The best approach is to use Configurations and the config handler: $ ./pharo Pharo.image config Command line handler for dealing with Metacello configurations from the command line Usage: config [--help] repository url [configuration] [--install[=version]] [--group=group] [--username=username] [--password=password] --help show this help message repository urlA Monticello repository name configuration A valid Metacello Configuration name version A valid version for the given configuration group A valid Metacello group name username An optional username to access the configuration's repository password An optional password to access the configuration's repository Examples: # display this help message pharo Pharo.image config # list all configurations of a repository pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL # list all the available versions of a confgurtation pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo # install the stable version pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install #install a specific version '1.5' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 #install a specific version '1.5' and only a specific group 'Tests' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 --group=Tests The following article contains this approach as well: http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/#deployingforproduction HTH, Sven On 02 May 2014, at 13:28, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true then: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start results in: UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
Indeed something's broken... I used the versionner tool to build it, but I think something went wrong. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~bromagosa/StarUOCs/versions/ConfigurationOfStarUOCs-BernatRomagosa.3 Try to download the mcz, it fails. I don't understand why MC added (2) to the file name. 2014-05-02 15:13 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: I think something must be broken with his configuration, you cannot even list it... On 02 May 2014, at 15:11, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main ConfigurationOfStarUOCs —install=development has to work. All out infrastructure is based on that :) Esteban On 02 May 2014, at 15:05, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it doesn't seem to work... pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main KeyNotFound: key #ConfigurationOfStarUOCs not found in SystemDictionary But the config is there and I can load it from the GUI by doing: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'bromagosa' project: 'StarUOCs'; package: 'ConfigurationOfStarUOCs'; load. ConfigurationOfStarUOCs load. What can be happening? My version is: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image printVersion [version] 3.0 #30846 2014-05-02 13:51 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: I see, thanks a lot! :) 2014-05-02 13:45 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: The best approach is to use Configurations and the config handler: $ ./pharo Pharo.image config Command line handler for dealing with Metacello configurations from the command line Usage: config [--help] repository url [configuration] [--install[=version]] [--group=group] [--username=username] [--password=password] --help show this help message repository urlA Monticello repository name configuration A valid Metacello Configuration name version A valid version for the given configuration group A valid Metacello group name username An optional username to access the configuration's repository password An optional password to access the configuration's repository Examples: # display this help message pharo Pharo.image config # list all configurations of a repository pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL # list all the available versions of a confgurtation pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo # install the stable version pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install #install a specific version '1.5' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 #install a specific version '1.5' and only a specific group 'Tests' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 --group=Tests The following article contains this approach as well: http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/#deployingforproduction HTH, Sven On 02 May 2014, at 13:28, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true then: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start results in: UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
I started over from scratch, filed out and in the config and package, erased all packages in the repo, pushed them back and still no success. I think I'll manually scp the image file for now... :P Thanks guys! 2014-05-02 15:21 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Indeed something's broken... I used the versionner tool to build it, but I think something went wrong. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~bromagosa/StarUOCs/versions/ConfigurationOfStarUOCs-BernatRomagosa.3 Try to download the mcz, it fails. I don't understand why MC added (2) to the file name. 2014-05-02 15:13 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: I think something must be broken with his configuration, you cannot even list it... On 02 May 2014, at 15:11, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main ConfigurationOfStarUOCs —install=development has to work. All out infrastructure is based on that :) Esteban On 02 May 2014, at 15:05, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it doesn't seem to work... pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main KeyNotFound: key #ConfigurationOfStarUOCs not found in SystemDictionary But the config is there and I can load it from the GUI by doing: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'bromagosa' project: 'StarUOCs'; package: 'ConfigurationOfStarUOCs'; load. ConfigurationOfStarUOCs load. What can be happening? My version is: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image printVersion [version] 3.0 #30846 2014-05-02 13:51 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: I see, thanks a lot! :) 2014-05-02 13:45 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: The best approach is to use Configurations and the config handler: $ ./pharo Pharo.image config Command line handler for dealing with Metacello configurations from the command line Usage: config [--help] repository url [configuration] [--install[=version]] [--group=group] [--username=username] [--password=password] --help show this help message repository urlA Monticello repository name configuration A valid Metacello Configuration name version A valid version for the given configuration group A valid Metacello group name username An optional username to access the configuration's repository password An optional password to access the configuration's repository Examples: # display this help message pharo Pharo.image config # list all configurations of a repository pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL # list all the available versions of a confgurtation pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo # install the stable version pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install #install a specific version '1.5' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 #install a specific version '1.5' and only a specific group 'Tests' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 --group=Tests The following article contains this approach as well: http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/#deployingforproduction HTH, Sven On 02 May 2014, at 13:28, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true then: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start results in: UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line
Hi Thierry, I did so, and loaded the package the way you suggested. It worked alright :) I guess my configuration is not well formed, I'll do it over. Thanks! 2014-05-02 15:56 GMT+02:00 GOUBIER Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr: Bernat, if I encounter something like that, I would also erase the contents of my package-cache directory. Sometimes it seems I never manage to activate changes because it keeps on loading a package of the same name and number out of the cache instead. Thierry -- *De :* Pharo-users [pharo-users-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Bernat Romagosa [tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com] *Envoyé :* vendredi 2 mai 2014 15:39 *À :* Any question about pharo is welcome *Objet :* Re: [Pharo-users] Updating packages from command line I started over from scratch, filed out and in the config and package, erased all packages in the repo, pushed them back and still no success. I think I'll manually scp the image file for now... :P Thanks guys! 2014-05-02 15:21 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : Indeed something's broken... I used the versionner tool to build it, but I think something went wrong. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~bromagosa/StarUOCs/versions/ConfigurationOfStarUOCs-BernatRomagosa.3 Try to download the mcz, it fails. I don't understand why MC added (2) to the file name. 2014-05-02 15:13 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: I think something must be broken with his configuration, you cannot even list it... On 02 May 2014, at 15:11, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main ConfigurationOfStarUOCs —install=development has to work. All out infrastructure is based on that :) Esteban On 02 May 2014, at 15:05, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hmm it doesn't seem to work... pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image config http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/bromagosa/StarUOCs/main KeyNotFound: key #ConfigurationOfStarUOCs not found in SystemDictionary But the config is there and I can load it from the GUI by doing: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'bromagosa' project: 'StarUOCs'; package: 'ConfigurationOfStarUOCs'; load. ConfigurationOfStarUOCs load. What can be happening? My version is: pharo-vm-nox Pharo.image printVersion [version] 3.0 #30846 2014-05-02 13:51 GMT+02:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: I see, thanks a lot! :) 2014-05-02 13:45 GMT+02:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: The best approach is to use Configurations and the config handler: $ ./pharo Pharo.image config Command line handler for dealing with Metacello configurations from the command line Usage: config [--help] repository url [configuration] [--install[=version]] [--group=group] [--username=username] [--password=password] --help show this help message repository urlA Monticello repository name configuration A valid Metacello Configuration name version A valid version for the given configuration group A valid Metacello group name username An optional username to access the configuration's repository password An optional password to access the configuration's repository Examples: # display this help message pharo Pharo.image config # list all configurations of a repository pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL # list all the available versions of a confgurtation pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo # install the stable version pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install #install a specific version '1.5' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 #install a specific version '1.5' and only a specific group 'Tests' pharo Pharo.image config $MC_REPOS_URL ConfigurationOfFoo --install=1.5 --group=Tests The following article contains this approach as well: http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/ http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/#deployingforproduction HTH, Sven On 02 May 2014, at 13:28, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to do it? Here's my attempt: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'myUser' project: 'MyProject'; package: 'MyPackage'; load. Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true then: pharo-vm-nox MyImage.image eval --no-quit MyJustLoadedClass start results in: UndefinedObjectDoIt (MyJustLoadedClass is Undeclared) MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of start is nil Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa
Re: [Pharo-users] ...and some cool Smalltalk history! (Re: a Pharo talk from a ruby conference)
Nice piece of history, both in music and CS! 2014-04-29 18:30 GMT+02:00 Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se: Howdy! (cc to squeak-dev because I think lots want to read this) If you want to know some cool history of Smalltalk, and perhaps this is a strong argument in actually *being* a Smalltalk and not trying to distance yourself from that rich and lovely heritage anyway, here goes: On 04/28/2014 08:14 PM, Alain Busser wrote: Also, Ruby is famous for these methods: *select *reject *collect do these names not remind you something ;-) ? There is a funny story about these verbs. Martin McClure told me at ESUG in Brest to ask Dan Ingalls about it, hinting that they are inspired by a famous song. And thus I did ask Dan in my interview with him I did a few years back over Skype (it is an interesting interview, for example - was there an inspiration from biology when Smalltalk was created?): http://files.krampe.se/interview.mp3 ...the song in question is by Arlo Guthrie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Restaurant_Massacree ...and here is a URL to the lyrics of it: http://www.lyricsty.com/arlo-guthrie-alices-restaurant-lyrics.html (search down to injected!) ...or just let me quote: They got a building down New York City, it's called Whitehall Street, Where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected, Neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one Day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. ...now... where do we stuff in #neglect:? :) regards, Göran -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Video Tutorials about Pharo
Very nice initiative, keep it on! :) On Apr 27, 2014 10:45 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: Very nice! I will watch them all… On 26 Apr 2014, at 20:16, kilon alios kilon.al...@gmail.com wrote: Hello pharoers . I have created a playlist in youtube where in the past few days I am keep adding new tutorials about the basics of Pharo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5ivaEATLQlist=PLqbtQ7OkSta0ULYAd7Qdxof851ybh-_m_ For now I am focusing on the vary basics. So far the tutorials are 1) Why Pharo - Explaining why I love Pharo and what Pharo is. 2) Install Pharo 3) Create a Class 4) Workspace Variables 5) Instance Variables 6) Temporary Variables I try to keep the duration at most around 10 minutes , if I can around 3-4 minutes. My goals is to focus on one or two features per tutorial. My focus for now is explaining the basics of Pharo the Language and Pharo the IDE. I hope however that after that I will have the energy and time to focus on Pharo libraries, like Nativeboost, Athens, Roosal , Sockets and many more. If my free time holds and I do not run out of steam, I should be able to produce around 30 - 60 hours per year of Video Tutorials that will be able to document a ton of Pharo functionality. Already the Playlist is over an hour long and I try to keep my tutorials focused entirely on the practical side. Your comments and support is greatly appreciated.
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] WIP iStoa
Hi Hilaire! I'm on holidays now until next Tuesday, but I'll package a compiled VM for you when I get back :) Best, Bernat. 2014-04-09 17:45 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: LOL. So you have no choice but to prepare for me an archive with your compiled VM, so I will use it ;-) (my system use glibc 2.15 anyway) Hilaire Le 09/04/2014 14:29, Bernat Romagosa a écrit : Ouch! I think it was myself who compiled it... I'll check again tomorrow! -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] WIP iStoa
Sorry Hilaire, I just got to work and was about to check it. Nice to see you've already found the cause though :) 2014-04-09 9:25 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Ok I got it, well I hope so. Debian Wheezy's GNU C lib is version 2.13. So it looks like the VM I used was compiled against GNU C Lib version 2.15 (stock Pharo VM from a few months ago), but more recent stock Pharo VM are compiled with older GNU lib C dependcies. And this is nice. If I am wrong, I will be happy to read clarification. Thanks Hilaire Le 07/04/2014 10:01, Bernat Romagosa a écrit : Just FYI, I had to replace the shipped vm and plugins by the latest ones to get it to work on my Debian Wheezy machine. -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] WIP iStoa
Ouch! I think it was myself who compiled it... I'll check again tomorrow! 2014-04-09 14:00 GMT+02:00 Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com: 2014-04-09 8:25 GMT+01:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: So it looks like the VM I used was compiled against GNU C Lib version 2.15 (stock Pharo VM from a few months ago), but more recent stock Pharo VM are compiled with older GNU lib C dependcies. And this is nice. +10 for the person who made it compile against an older glibc. There´s life beyond Ubuntu! Cheers, Sergi -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] WIP iStoa
Very nice, Hilarie! Just FYI, I had to replace the shipped vm and plugins by the latest ones to get it to work on my Debian Wheezy machine. Congrats! 2014-04-05 18:20 GMT+02:00 Hilaire Fernandes hilaire.fernan...@gmail.com: Hello, For those who want to give a try to work in progress iStoa on Linux, an Interactive math exercises book. https://launchpad.net/istoa/alpha/14.04/+download/iStoa.app-14.04a.zip Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] What's wrong whith this code?
Without having tried it, I think you're missing a #wait message in there:
elements := #('eins' 'zwei' 'drei' 'vier').
elements do: [ :element | (Delay forSeconds: 2) wait ].
displayingProgress: [ :element | 'Working on', element asString ].
Cheers,
Bernat.
2014-03-18 9:52 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de
:
elements := #('eins' 'zwei' 'drei' 'vier').
elements do: [ :element | Delay forSeconds: 2. ]
displayingProgress: [ :element | 'Working on', element asString ].
Shouldn't it just open a progress bar and iterate through the elements
printing 'Working on...?
Regards
Friedrich
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] What's wrong whith this code?
ouch, I added a . in the middle, sorry!
elements := #('eins' 'zwei' 'drei' 'vier').
elements
do: [ :element | (Delay forSeconds: 2) wait ]
displayingProgress: [ :element | 'Working on', element asString ].
2014-03-18 9:55 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com:
Without having tried it, I think you're missing a #wait message in there:
elements := #('eins' 'zwei' 'drei' 'vier').
elements do: [ :element | (Delay forSeconds: 2) wait ].
displayingProgress: [ :element | 'Working on', element asString ].
Cheers,
Bernat.
2014-03-18 9:52 GMT+01:00 Friedrich Dominicus
fr...@q-software-solutions.de:
elements := #('eins' 'zwei' 'drei' 'vier').
elements do: [ :element | Delay forSeconds: 2. ]
displayingProgress: [ :element | 'Working on', element asString ].
Shouldn't it just open a progress bar and iterate through the elements
printing 'Working on...?
Regards
Friedrich
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Pharo VM for Raspbian (or Linux-ARM, for what matters)
Hi list, I recently read there is a compiled version of a Pharo VM for Raspbian, but the link provided in the blog post is broken ( https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/RaspberryPi/job/RaspberryPi-Cross-Compilation-FastBltBit/ ). Any chance to get it from somewhere else? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo VM for Raspbian (or Linux-ARM, for what matters)
Thanks, got it working! :) 2014-02-27 13:11 GMT+01:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu: I think the following would work https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/ARM-Experimentation/job/RaspberryPi-Cross-Compilation-JB/ download results.tar.gz Anyway, this project is still bleeding edge and has not yet released anything. On 27 Feb 2014, at 12:51, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I recently read there is a compiled version of a Pharo VM for Raspbian, but the link provided in the blog post is broken ( https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/view/RaspberryPi/job/RaspberryPi-Cross-Compilation-FastBltBit/ ). Any chance to get it from somewhere else? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS
Hi list, I've been too busy to look into this lately, but today I tried the latest MacOS version and I still get the same PrimitiveFailed error when trying to write a byte array through the serial port. Has there been any further development on this? Thanks! Best, Bernat. 2013-11-12 13:07 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com: Thanks, Esteban. Anything I can do to help, I'm available :) 2013/11/12 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm I still got the same issue after replacing my VM by the vmLatest found at files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac under the name Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip I will check next week :) When trying to write a byte array to the serial port (aSerialPort nextPutAll: #[249]), SerialPort fails with a primitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: The port does open correctly, though. 2013/11/11 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Thanks guys, files.pharo.org is down right now I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) 2013/11/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Luc proposed a pull request on github - got validated by travis - I integrated it into the master branch - I pushed the changes to the develop branch so the vmLatest should include the fixes I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) Stef On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Esteban we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we should distribute and share load. Stef On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, it is stable but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. So many things to do when I come back... :) Esteban On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luc, Smalltalk vm version reports: 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Jenkins build #14535 ' It's the one listed as latest at the downloads section in pharo-project.org Cheers, Bernat. 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com Hi Bernat, Which VM version? because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. but I have not tried. yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. do you use the right protName? Cheers, Luc 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS
Hi Esteban! Oh, good to know! The offer stays on, I can't help much more than testing, but I'm available for anything you need me to do :) Gracias! Bernat. 2014-02-20 13:30 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com: Hi Bernat, yes, I’m committed to have it ready before Pharo3 release. Esteban On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:54, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I've been too busy to look into this lately, but today I tried the latest MacOS version and I still get the same PrimitiveFailed error when trying to write a byte array through the serial port. Has there been any further development on this? Thanks! Best, Bernat. 2013-11-12 13:07 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com : Thanks, Esteban. Anything I can do to help, I'm available :) 2013/11/12 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I can confirm I still got the same issue after replacing my VM by the vmLatest found at files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac under the name Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip I will check next week :) When trying to write a byte array to the serial port (aSerialPort nextPutAll: #[249]), SerialPort fails with a primitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: The port does open correctly, though. 2013/11/11 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Thanks guys, files.pharo.org is down right now I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) 2013/11/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Luc proposed a pull request on github - got validated by travis - I integrated it into the master branch - I pushed the changes to the develop branch so the vmLatest should include the fixes I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) Stef On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Esteban we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we should distribute and share load. Stef On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, it is stable but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. So many things to do when I come back... :) Esteban On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luc, Smalltalk vm version reports: 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Jenkins build #14535 ' It's the one listed as latest at the downloads section in pharo-project.org Cheers, Bernat. 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com Hi Bernat, Which VM version? because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. but I have not tried. yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. do you use the right protName? Cheers, Luc 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Phratch acknowledgement?
Hi all, I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I had to write it down. I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people know that the project had been taken over by another team. We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat when the Phratch team took over. I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take very seriously. :) Best, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch acknowledgement?
Hi Jannik, Thanks, that's all we needed! :) Sorry, I missed the email to the phratch list, otherwise I'd have written there in the first place. Cheers, Bernat. 2014/1/10 jannik laval jannik.la...@gmail.com Dear Bernat, I will be happy to add something about Scat on the website (I already added a sentence to fix this issue). Now, we can probably do better together. I am sorry for this omission, I made the google code page too fast and I have to do it better (It is on my todo list !). You can also contact us on the phratch mailing-list: phra...@googlegroups.com Cheers, Jannik 2014/1/10 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of work done by many developers all over the world and we should always recognise that properly, that is only fair. At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful for what I received and I want to give something back. Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human collaboration as it should be. Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably unintentional) omission. Sven On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I had to write it down. I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people know that the project had been taken over by another team. We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat when the Phratch team took over. I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take very seriously. :) Best, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ École des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://car.mines-douai.fr/ -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch acknowledgement?
Hi Marcus, 2014/1/10 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr Hi Bernat, You should contact To me, I thought that they are not really two projects but one: a new name and a new developer. Both was needed: You paved the way and it was very sad that the sorry state of the code base burned you! Indeed, and I'm really happy to see our effort was not in vain! The way we were headed, we would have never gotten where Phratch is now... I think this shows the power of open source: Even when you have to give up in the end, it can be that the work was not for nothing and the code starts to have new live… What will be interesting what comes out… e.g. someone could take this great stuff: http://s4a.cat and combine it with Phratch... Actually, the S4A guys are ourselves here at Citilab! Merging sounds like a really good idea, and since I've been working to get Snap4Arduino working ( http://s4a.cat/snap), and the server runs on Pharo, it should not be difficult to merge Phratch with part of that code to get S4A to work on Pharo 2.0. I'll see what I can do in this direction. Best, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Athens on Pharo 3.0 on Ubuntu
Hi list, I was just testing the new Pharo 3.0 on an Ubutu box, and I found the Athens Cairo examples are not working. The first bug is just about the path of libcairo.so.2 in Ubuntu x64, which is as follows: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 So, this path should be added to CairoLibraryLoader class pathToCairoOnLinux. Still, after adding it, I get: 'failed to get a symbol address: cairo_image_surface_create', and here I'm lost... any ideas what's going on? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Athens on Pharo 3.0 on Ubuntu
Sorry guys, what a stupid mistake! Of course you can't call a 64b library, I hadn't thought about that... For Ubuntu x64 users, here's what you need to do: apt-get install libcairo2-dev:i386 2014/1/6 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, I was just testing the new Pharo 3.0 on an Ubutu box, and I found the Athens Cairo examples are not working. The first bug is just about the path of libcairo.so.2 in Ubuntu x64, which is as follows: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2 So, this path should be added to CairoLibraryLoader class pathToCairoOnLinux. Still, after adding it, I get: 'failed to get a symbol address: cairo_image_surface_create', and here I'm lost... any ideas what's going on? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Athens on Pharo 3.0 on Ubuntu
Oh I see! I usually use Debian, so I didn't even look for an Ubuntu option in the downloads list. Thanks! 2014/1/6 Damien Cassou damien.cas...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: For Ubuntu x64 users, here's what you need to do: no! All Ubuntu users should use http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/ubuntu -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm. Winston Churchill -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Writing an IRC bot
Im my opinion... messy or not, all code should be shared! :) 2013/12/18 Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com I´ve been writing a bot for a while now, with the purpose of learning proper Smalltalk and OOP idioms/techniques (I´ve been using C-ish languages for a long time now, and I´m trying to cure myself :D). I must say that the process has been quite enlightening so far, I never really understood OOP until now. So far I have a bot that works fine for my needs, but I´d like to contribute back, so I´ll just list some thoughts and you can comment on them. All constructive criticism and pointers on how to do them are welcome! I´m writing in on Pharo 3. I want to split the code I currently have in 3 parts: - part 1: a couple of classes IRCClient/ZdcSecureIRCClient mirroring POP3Client/ZdcSecurePOP3Client, with the intention of contributing them back to Pharo - part 2: an IRCBot framework, which I´ll likely name 'Chromia', to be released under MIT license too - part 3: my own bot using that framework, which would add all the extras like games Does that sound reasonable? At this point my code is quite messy, so I´m deciding whether to put it on SThub or not yet. I´m depending on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/JSON for reading some JSON file from a website. Though it´s not high on my priority list, I wouldn´t mind making it as portable to other dialects as possible, too. Cheers, Sergi -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Writing an IRC bot
Sergi, you're too harsh on your code, I'm looking at it and it's nice! :) 2013/12/18 Sergi Reyner sergi.rey...@gmail.com 2013/12/18 b...@openinworld.com I would say just ensure that it is packaged to load cleanly on a fresh image. Yes, as I mention on the description, I´m wrapping my head around Metacello trying to put together a decent ConfigurationOfChromia. Cheers, Sergi -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Snap4Arduino pre-alpha release
Hi list! I know people don't usually make announcements of this kind here, but I've gotten much help from this list on SerialPlugin and NativeBoost questions, so I wanted to let you know I've managed to release the pre-alpha version of Snap4Arduino. Snap! is a Scratch reimplementation written in Javascript by Jens Mönig and Brian Harvey, with advanced programming concepts such as first order functions, closures or continuations. As Brian Harvey puts it: *In the glory days of the MIT Logo Lab, we used to say, “Logo is Lisp disguised as BASIC.” Now, with its first class procedures, lexical scope, and first class continuations, Snap! is Scheme disguised as Scratch.* Snap4Arduino is a modification of Snap! plus a server written in Pharo that allow you to live-program Arduino boards very easily. http://s4a.cat/snap I've used Zinc as a web and websockets server, and the Arduino package to achieve communication with the board. I've decided to not wait for the MacOS CogVM serial port bugfix because I really wanted to release something before the end of November, but everything else is in place, so once the VM is fixed, it'll be just plug and release! :) Thanks a lot for your help! -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Snap4Arduino pre-alpha release
Thanks Phil! Weird about the mailto link, it does work for me both on Chrome and FF... I'll take a look! :) And about the manual, I didn't even know the link was there! This comes straight from Snap!, but I guess I'd better override it too! Glad you like it! 2013/11/28 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be Just note that the bug reporting is broken on the web page... It tries to reach mailto:scra...@citilab.eu?subject=Snap4Arduino%20Bug%20Reportbody=Operating%20System:%0D%0AWeb%20Browser,%20and%20version:%0D%0ASnap4Arduino%20version:%0D%0ASteps%20to%20follow%20in%20order%20to%20reproduce%20the%20problem:%0D%0AAdditional%20notes:scra...@citilab.eu?subject=Snap4Arduino%20Bug%20Reportbody=Operating%20System:%0D%0AWeb%20Browser,%20and%20version:%0D%0ASnap4Arduino%20version:%0D%0ASteps%20to%20follow%20in%20order%20to%20reproduce%20the%20problem:%0D%0AAdditional%20notes: which doesn't work. (Chrome here). Also, reference manual is missing: http://localhost:8080/help/SnapManual.pdf not fouind. Other than that, sweet stuff. I like the traybar thing :-) Phil On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list! I know people don't usually make announcements of this kind here, but I've gotten much help from this list on SerialPlugin and NativeBoost questions, so I wanted to let you know I've managed to release the pre-alpha version of Snap4Arduino. Snap! is a Scratch reimplementation written in Javascript by Jens Mönig and Brian Harvey, with advanced programming concepts such as first order functions, closures or continuations. As Brian Harvey puts it: *In the glory days of the MIT Logo Lab, we used to say, “Logo is Lisp disguised as BASIC.” Now, with its first class procedures, lexical scope, and first class continuations, Snap! is Scheme disguised as Scratch.* Snap4Arduino is a modification of Snap! plus a server written in Pharo that allow you to live-program Arduino boards very easily. http://s4a.cat/snap I've used Zinc as a web and websockets server, and the Arduino package to achieve communication with the board. I've decided to not wait for the MacOS CogVM serial port bugfix because I really wanted to release something before the end of November, but everything else is in place, so once the VM is fixed, it'll be just plug and release! :) Thanks a lot for your help! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino package extra files
Thanks Camille, I just asked Ricardo for the files :) 2013/11/15 Camille Teruel camille.ter...@gmail.com Hello Bernat, You should ask directly the developers of this project. Maybe they are not registered to this mailing list. You should find their mail addresses on the squeaksource page of this project. On 15 nov. 2013, at 10:47, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: bump? 2013/10/25 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, After successfully installing the Arduino package, I noticed this Getting Started text: *After installing the Arduino packages by evaluating...* * ConfigurationOfArduino load.* *...you'll need a couple extra support files in order to be able to upload programs to your Arduino board. You can download them from here:* * http://www.mediafire.com/?1rep41uygl4rpf1 http://www.mediafire.com/?1rep41uygl4rpf1* *Extract the contents of that file in the same directory where you have your Pharo image.* But the mediafire link is broken. Where can I get the extra support files? Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] CogVM arguments in Win32
Hi list,
I made some progress but I'm still a bit lost here.
I managed to get Pharo to be headless in Win32, by hiding the window via NB
as Igor suggested, plus suspending the UI process (UIManager default
uiProcess suspend), which was the cause for the window to show up again
after a fraction of a second, because of the refresh interval.
However, now I can only close Pharo by killing the process manually, which
is not very nice for the end user. So I figured I'd try to add an icon to
the system tray with a single context menu entry for closing Pharo.
This is what I'm doing, taken from
MSDNhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb762159(v=vs.85).aspx
:
NBWin32Shell shellNotifyIcon: lpdata dwMessage: dwMessage
primitive: #primitiveNativeCall module: #NativeBoostPlugin
^ self nbCall: #(bool Shell_NotifyIcon(
DWORD dwMessage,
PNOTIFYICONDATA lpdata
)) module: #shell32
dwMessage is just a 0 (flag to create a tray icon), but lpdata needs to be a
pointer to a struct of this
formhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb773352(v=vs.85).aspx
:
typedef struct _NOTIFYICONDATA {
DWORD cbSize;
HWND hWnd;
UINT uID;
UINT uFlags;
UINT uCallbackMessage;
HICON hIcon;
TCHAR szTip[64];
DWORD dwState;
DWORD dwStateMask;
TCHAR szInfo[256];
union {
UINT uTimeout;
UINT uVersion;
};
TCHAR szInfoTitle[64];
DWORD dwInfoFlags;
GUID guidItem;
HICON hBalloonIcon;
} NOTIFYICONDATA, *PNOTIFYICONDATA;
So, my question is: how do I translate this into NB code? How does one
define a struct and then pass its pointer to a function in NativeBoost?
Thanks a lot for your help, I'm getting closer :)
Bernat.
p.s. Could the Windows API be any more convoluted and dev-unfriendly in any
possible sense?
2013/11/4 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com
Hi!
Thanks Igor, that kinda worked! Pharo hides, but comes back after half a
second or so. I'll keep digging, thanks! :)
2013/11/1 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be
Well, this should rather be:
handle :=NativeBoostWin32 squeakWindowHandle.
window := NBWin32Window new value: handle; yourself.
window hide.
or
window setWindowText: 'im a main window blablabla'.
Phil
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.comwrote:
You can try something like this:
| handle window |
handle := NativeBoost forCurrentPlatform squeakWindowHandle.
window := NBWin32Window new value: handle; yourself.
window hide.
or
window setWindowText: 'im a main window blablabla'.
:)
i didn't tested it since its been implemented, but i think it should
work.
On 30 October 2013 11:20, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote:
In this direction, I'm trying to call a function in the shell32.dll lib
that apparently should let you minimize an app to the system tray, but I'm
not having much luck... I guess I don't really understand what am I exactly
doing.
This is what I found in the
MSDNhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb762159%28VS.85%29.aspx
:
BOOL Shell_NotifyIcon(
_In_ DWORD dwMessage,
_In_ PNOTIFYICONDATA lpdata
);
So, I tried to translate this into Pharo as:
MyClass minimizeToTray: dwMessage data: lpData
apicall: bool 'Shell_NotifyIcon' (dword PNOTIFYICONDATA) module:
'shell32.dll'
But it won't let me save the method, reporting it's expecting an
argument before PNOTIFYICONDATA.
I realize PNOTIFYICONDATA is not a primitive type, but I just don't
know how to handle it... :(
--
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS
Thanks guys, files.pharo.org is down right now I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) 2013/11/9 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Luc proposed a pull request on github - got validated by travis - I integrated it into the master branch - I pushed the changes to the develop branch so the vmLatest should include the fixes I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) Stef On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote: Esteban we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we should distribute and share load. Stef On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, it is stable but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. So many things to do when I come back... :) Esteban On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Luc, Smalltalk vm version reports: 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Jenkins build #14535 ' It's the one listed as latest at the downloads section in pharo-project.org Cheers, Bernat. 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com Hi Bernat, Which VM version? because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. but I have not tried. yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. do you use the right protName? Cheers, Luc 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS
Hi Luc, Smalltalk vm version reports: 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Jenkins build #14535 ' It's the one listed as latest at the downloads section in pharo-project.org Cheers, Bernat. 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse luc.fabre...@gmail.com Hi Bernat, Which VM version? because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. but I have not tried. yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. do you use the right protName? Cheers, Luc 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list, Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: *PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed* The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] CogVM arguments in Win32
Hi! Thanks Igor, that kinda worked! Pharo hides, but comes back after half a second or so. I'll keep digging, thanks! :) 2013/11/1 p...@highoctane.be p...@highoctane.be Well, this should rather be: handle :=NativeBoostWin32 squeakWindowHandle. window := NBWin32Window new value: handle; yourself. window hide. or window setWindowText: 'im a main window blablabla'. Phil On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:03 PM, Igor Stasenko siguc...@gmail.comwrote: You can try something like this: | handle window | handle := NativeBoost forCurrentPlatform squeakWindowHandle. window := NBWin32Window new value: handle; yourself. window hide. or window setWindowText: 'im a main window blablabla'. :) i didn't tested it since its been implemented, but i think it should work. On 30 October 2013 11:20, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: In this direction, I'm trying to call a function in the shell32.dll lib that apparently should let you minimize an app to the system tray, but I'm not having much luck... I guess I don't really understand what am I exactly doing. This is what I found in the MSDNhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb762159%28VS.85%29.aspx : BOOL Shell_NotifyIcon( _In_ DWORD dwMessage, _In_ PNOTIFYICONDATA lpdata ); So, I tried to translate this into Pharo as: MyClass minimizeToTray: dwMessage data: lpData apicall: bool 'Shell_NotifyIcon' (dword PNOTIFYICONDATA) module: 'shell32.dll' But it won't let me save the method, reporting it's expecting an argument before PNOTIFYICONDATA. I realize PNOTIFYICONDATA is not a primitive type, but I just don't know how to handle it... :( -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] another talk online: Pharo: Objects At Your Fingertips
For the Gnu/Linux people, you can watch the talk via: mplayer 'mms:// fibtv.fib.upc.es/videoteca/20131030-1055_Pharo_Objects_at_your_Fingertips.wmv?cat=2vid=821 ' 2013/10/31 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu Beautiful and useful ! On 31 Oct 2013, at 10:08, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote: The idea of this talk is to give an intro for someone who know OO but not Pharo (or Smalltalk). (this means for someone who does it has noting new) Pharo: Objects At Your Fingertips A talk given at Universitat Politècnica de Catalunya on Oct 30, 2013. SlideShare: http://www.slideshare.net/MarcusDenker/pharo-objects-at-your-fingertips PDF: http://marcusdenker.de/talks/13BarcelonaTalk/PharoObjectsAtYourFingertips.pdf Video: http://media.fib.upc.edu/fibtv/streamingmedia/view/2/821 -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] CogVM arguments in Win32
indeed, --headless does work but the image just dies after executing it... :( I guess some FFI research to minimize the app to tray is in place. Thanks! 2013/10/29 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com AFAIK you can't. no matter what you do, it stills shows a pharo in the trial. I remember once I hid the fact that I had the app running there by replacing the world with an administrative morph (just as other server apps do). It was not terrible cool, but it worked. Esteban On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I see Pharo -help brings up a window with command line options, but -headless is still firing up the GUI... any ideas? 2013/10/29 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi list! I've never used Pharo on Windows before, but we're starting to package a multi-platform app right now and I've just found out command line arguments don't work like I thought they would. I need to run the image headless, so I figured: bin-win32\Pharo -headless shared\Pharo2.0.image Would do the trick, but it's not working. Pharo /? doesn't give any hints either, and I can't seem to find the docs for the Windows VM anywhere. Does anybody know where I can find a Win32 VM reference? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] CogVM arguments in Win32
In this direction, I'm trying to call a function in the shell32.dll lib that apparently should let you minimize an app to the system tray, but I'm not having much luck... I guess I don't really understand what am I exactly doing. This is what I found in the MSDNhttp://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb762159%28VS.85%29.aspx : BOOL Shell_NotifyIcon( _In_ DWORD dwMessage, _In_ PNOTIFYICONDATA lpdata ); So, I tried to translate this into Pharo as: MyClass minimizeToTray: dwMessage data: lpData apicall: bool 'Shell_NotifyIcon' (dword PNOTIFYICONDATA) module: 'shell32.dll' But it won't let me save the method, reporting it's expecting an argument before PNOTIFYICONDATA. I realize PNOTIFYICONDATA is not a primitive type, but I just don't know how to handle it... :(
[Pharo-users] CogVM arguments in Win32
Hi list! I've never used Pharo on Windows before, but we're starting to package a multi-platform app right now and I've just found out command line arguments don't work like I thought they would. I need to run the image headless, so I figured: bin-win32\Pharo -headless shared\Pharo2.0.image Would do the trick, but it's not working. Pharo /? doesn't give any hints either, and I can't seem to find the docs for the Windows VM anywhere. Does anybody know where I can find a Win32 VM reference? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Arduino package extra files
Hi list, After successfully installing the Arduino package, I noticed this Getting Started text: *After installing the Arduino packages by evaluating...* * * * ConfigurationOfArduino load.* * * *...you'll need a couple extra support files in order to be able to upload programs to your Arduino board. You can download them from here:* * * * http://www.mediafire.com/?1rep41uygl4rpf1* * * *Extract the contents of that file in the same directory where you have your Pharo image.* But the mediafire link is broken. Where can I get the extra support files? Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Tip: Recovering a broken image
Hi list, I've just recovered a broken image that crashed upon startup. There was some problem with a SerialPort that stayed open and tried to write/read into a physical port that didn't exist no more, or something of the sort. So here's the magic line: $ bin/myVm shared/MyImage.image eval SmalltalkImage backupTo: 'recover' This makes a copy of the image into a new image called recover.image, but as the documentation states: *Unlike #saveAs: do not transfer the default execution to the new image. * So there you go! Hope it helps someone else. :) -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Tip: Recovering a broken image
Yes, but you'll have the opportunity to fix whatever broke it before saving and opening the image again. 2013/10/24 Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu Yes, I understand - I read that, but the next time you start your new recover.image they will run again, no ? Resulting in the same problem as the original image, or not ? On 24 Oct 2013, at 14:34, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Because: ”Unlike #saveAs: do not transfer the default execution to the new image. So the startup and shutdown scripts won't be executed :) (Or that's what I understood) On Oct 24, 2013 1:54 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote: Hi Bernat, Interesting, I never heard of #backupTo: But if recover.image is a copy of MyImage.image, and that last one failed to start up, why then would the copy not have the same problem ? Sven On 24 Oct 2013, at 13:32, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, I've just recovered a broken image that crashed upon startup. There was some problem with a SerialPort that stayed open and tried to write/read into a physical port that didn't exist no more, or something of the sort. So here's the magic line: $ bin/myVm shared/MyImage.image eval SmalltalkImage backupTo: 'recover' This makes a copy of the image into a new image called recover.image, but as the documentation states: Unlike #saveAs: do not transfer the default execution to the new image. So there you go! Hope it helps someone else. :) -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Comanche on HTTPS
Hi list, Is there a way to serve HTTPS via Comanche? I can't use Zinc or Swazoo. Our app uses a version of Comanche that's pretty much hand-tailored for our needs, and switching would be quite a massive amount of work. In case it's not currently supported, does someone know what would it take to implement it? Thanks! Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Comanche on HTTPS
The only reason is I didn't know about it! I'll take a look at it, thanks a lot :) Bernat. 2013/10/17 Göran Krampe go...@krampe.se On 10/17/2013 09:57 AM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: Hi list, Is there a way to serve HTTPS via Comanche? I can't use Zinc or Swazoo. Our app uses a version of Comanche that's pretty much hand-tailored for our needs, and switching would be quite a massive amount of work. In case it's not currently supported, does someone know what would it take to implement it? Any reason you can't use say stud in front? stud is very small and just does exactly what you want :) https://github.com/bumptech/**stud https://github.com/bumptech/stud regards, Göran PS. Using SqueakSSL on server side does NOT scale. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] JNIPort - How to load this in pharo?
Good to hear! You should thank Masashi, he put the image together :p 2013/10/16 Thushar G R thushar...@gmail.com Hi Bernat, I got the image, used the same settings to initialize JVM in Pharo2.0 image, and i got the random long working. Its a start. Thanks a lot. Thushar thuchu On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I've replied to your Stack Overflow thread. Hope it helps! 2013/10/16 Thushar G R thushar...@gmail.com Hi All, I was trying to load JNIPort in pharo , from MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/JNIPort' user: '' password: '' Its raising some bugs regarding missing .mcz files in the repo. I wonder if sommone is useing it already, and are willing to share info about loading it to the image. My objective is feasibility study. Thanks in advance. Thushar -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] XSD handling in Pharo
I've handled Atom feeds and (properly formatted) HTML pages with the XML packages for Pharo, so I guess any markup language should be working too... http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/XMLParser http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~PharoExtras/XMLWriter Cheers, Bernat. 2013/9/30 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de I've now searched for a while but did not found much about it. Does anyone here have a hint where to look for XSD stuff handling in Pharo? Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU
Not really, the image is not being saved regularly... all data is stored in a neo4j database, so there's no need to save the image. It seems like it may have something to do with users uploading files in some particular moments, but I'm using Göran's file upload mechanism, in which files are streamed straight to disk, so there shouldn't be any image clogging problems even for huge files... 2013/9/24 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com Bernat, could this be triggered when you SAVE the image? If true, do you happen to have RFB running? On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, A couple months ago I deployed an Iliad application in a Debian VPS, which has been working great except for the fact that about every two weeks the image takes up 100% of the CPU and, of course, the app becomes unusable. Does anyone have a method for finding out what's going on? I've been trying to debug the problem, but as I don't know what triggers it, it's pretty impossible to detect... I've checked the running threads and nothing seems unusual. I've also profiled the app for a whole day of real usage with end users and not a single method took more time than what I expected, so I'm completely lost here. Any help will be appreciated! :) Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU
I've just realised my image weighs 301Mb! 2013/9/25 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com It's a Pharo 1.4 image on this VM: 'CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, StackToRegisterMappingCogit VMMaker-oscog-EstebanLorenzano.161 uuid: 8e0c22c3-b48d-4d8d-a7f9-8a75dc246f28 Jul 18 2012, https://git.gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 5151310c41b08f55b70e9c6250711cb1f3672ce7 Date: 2012-07-18 14:06:15 +0200 By: Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com' (On a Debian VPS) 2013/9/25 Paul DeBruicker pdebr...@gmail.com Which image and vm ? On Sep 25, 2013, at 3:24 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm something weird just happened. I restarted Komanche, then when I saved the image and the CPU rushed to 100%! 2013/9/25 Janko Mivšek janko.miv...@eranova.si Hi Bernat, I remember once having similar problems on Swazoo. But on image restart. If Swazoo was not stopped before image shutdown, image went into 100% CPU after restart. Something like that. It seems therefore that this is sockets related problem What if you stop your web server and start again? Best regards Janko Dne 25. 09. 2013 10:03, piše Bernat Romagosa: Forgot to answer that I'm not using RFB. I had sooo many problems with it that since last year I've been using xpra http://xpra.org/ instead, which lets you capture running X windows remotely over SSH. It's kind of like screen (not even remotely so powerful) but for GUIs. Cheers, Bernat. 2013/9/25 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com mailto:tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Not really, the image is not being saved regularly... all data is stored in a neo4j database, so there's no need to save the image. It seems like it may have something to do with users uploading files in some particular moments, but I'm using Göran's file upload mechanism, in which files are streamed straight to disk, so there shouldn't be any image clogging problems even for huge files... 2013/9/24 Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com mailto:marianop...@gmail.com Bernat, could this be triggered when you SAVE the image? If true, do you happen to have RFB running? On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com mailto:tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, A couple months ago I deployed an Iliad application in a Debian VPS, which has been working great except for the fact that about every two weeks the image takes up 100% of the CPU and, of course, the app becomes unusable. Does anyone have a method for finding out what's going on? I've been trying to debug the problem, but as I don't know what triggers it, it's pretty impossible to detect... I've checked the running threads and nothing seems unusual. I've also profiled the app for a whole day of real usage with end users and not a single method took more time than what I expected, so I'm completely lost here. Any help will be appreciated! :) -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Image taking up 100% CPU
Hi list, A couple months ago I deployed an Iliad application in a Debian VPS, which has been working great except for the fact that about every two weeks the image takes up 100% of the CPU and, of course, the app becomes unusable. Does anyone have a method for finding out what's going on? I've been trying to debug the problem, but as I don't know what triggers it, it's pretty impossible to detect... I've checked the running threads and nothing seems unusual. I've also profiled the app for a whole day of real usage with end users and not a single method took more time than what I expected, so I'm completely lost here. Any help will be appreciated! :) Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references
Hi Sabine! If you want an object to be referenced by another, and not embedded in it, you need to give that object root entity. As a root, the object will have a collection of its own, and will be referenced by other objects by id. If the object is not root, it will be embedded inside the referring object as a property. So, to be safe, always set #isVoyageRoot to return true at class side of all objects you don't want to have embedded. In general, big enough objects who are referenced by different objects should be root. In my case, I had a centre which had users which had centres. Users also had projects, and projects also had users. Big mess, I know. Besides that, all users, centres and projects had profiles. My solution was to make centres, projects and users be roots, and let only the profiles be embedded. I hope this helped! Bernat. 2013/7/19 Sabine Knöfel sabine.knoe...@gmail.com Hi Esteban, yes, now the Rectangle Example works after doing the reset. But saving my model still leads to a non responding image because Voyage is trying to write json for all model stuf deep deep deep and circular. Perhaps same like: http://forum.world.st/Voyage-Circular-references-td4691940.html#a4699436 I dont know anything about Magritte (yet) and I need a hint what to define in my model so that it stops creating json at certain points and creates only e.g. a Symbol. Example: My model instance of trip has a connection to an instance of country. The country should not be written in json with all its definitions. Voyage should only write e.g. #germany in the json and later, when getting the instance back from the database, I want to reassign the trip to the country. I already implemented this stuff when working witk Mongotalk the last months and it worked fine. But my question yesterday: http://forum.world.st/MongoDB-open-close-in-production-singleton-or-not-td4699322.html lead to my impression that I should use voyage. So, how can I define the borders? Sabine On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] [hidden email] http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=4699491i=0 wrote: Hi Sabine, Probably you do not missed anything. Probably I missed to update the voyage configuration :) can you try doing VOMongoRepository allInstancesDo: #reset. before trying again? Cheers, Esteban On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Sabine Knöfel [hidden email] wrote: I found this: http://smallworks.eu/web/blog/2013-06-14-voyage-the-adventure Chapter Enhancing storage But if I add the 3+1 methods to Rectangle, and save it again, the json did not change. Did I miss something? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Voyage-Circular-references-tp4691940p4699436.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion below: http://forum.world.st/Voyage-Circular-references-tp4691940p4699443.html To unsubscribe from Voyage: Circular references, click here. NAML -- View this message in context: Re: Voyage: Circular referenceshttp://forum.world.st/Voyage-Circular-references-tp4691940p4699491.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archivehttp://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.htmlat Nabble.com. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
Still trying without success... Does anyone have an image, a VM and a SerialPlugin working in their machine that they can share with me? At this point I don't care too much on which OS, I'll find a machine here at work. The thing is I wanted to start developing right away, and this little obstacle is holding me back... Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Yep, I found that thread and tried all possible combinations: '/dev/ttyUSB0' '/dev//ttyUSB0' '/dev/ttyusb0' '/dev//ttyusb0' 'ttyUSB0' 'ttyusb0' and none worked... :( 2013/7/17 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com It is indeed annoying and obviously buggy. I kinda fixed it last year but since I didn't had any serial port stuff to test it, it was just in abstract (Luc was using it, thought) There was a report a couple of weeks ago to try using double slash. SerialPort new openPort: '/dev//ttyUSB0' Esteban On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: So I compiled two VMs, one with the SerialPlugin as an internal plugin, the other one as an external plugin. On a Debian box, I connect an Arduino Diecimila board and I get its handler at /dev/ttyUSB0. However, on both VMs with fresh Pharo 2.0 images: SerialPort new openPort: '/dev/ttyUSB0' Fails with a generic error. What's wrong with SerialPort? The cannot open port error message is about as informative as sorry, not gonna happen :( 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Great! I was missing the gl and alsa headers. All done now, thanks a lot :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, it seems the patch is already included in the latest VMMaker image, so no need to apply it. That's nice :). Anyone with grants in the issue tracker can close it?? :D Still, having executed the script, I get yet another error, this time related to gl.h (why does it need it? I left B3DAcceleratorPlugin out): [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/SqDisplay.h:16:0, from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:140: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/sqUnixOpenGL.h:21:22: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Hmm, which configuration are you using to copile? I think there is a UnixNoGLConfiguration or something like that... So either you install the gl libraries or use the no gl configuration to generate the sources :). In any case, I really don't know why there is that dependency with opengl... 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com ouch! I forgot to execute the script this time, and didn't install the patch either.. trying again, thanks! :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Hi! before compiling you have to, inside the build folder, execute codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Besides, I was looking at luc's tutorial and it lacks one step to have serial plugin built: install the patch he made [1]. Did you do that? I added a comment in the blog entry just in case... Guille [1] https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=119q=luc On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any ideas? (For the record, I do not need the B3DAcceleratorPlugin, so I guess it could just be left out, but I don't know how does one do that either) 2013/7/16 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7746000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7742000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7728000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb75c5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7783000) Thanks! :) Well that looks fine to me. Sorry that I could not help Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] no SortedDictionary available?
Tony Fleig has an OrderedDictionary in a repo of his ( http://www.squeaksource.com/TFOrderedDictionary.html), but I think it's pretty much the same as the OrderPreservingDictionary... 2013/7/17 Clément Bera bera.clem...@gmail.com There is currently no sorted dictionary in Pharo. There's only OrderedIdentityDictionary / OrderPreservingDictionary which are different. If you implement one or find an opensource implementation somewhere, Marcus will be pleased to integrate it in Pharo. 2013/7/17 Sabine Knöfel sabine.knoe...@gmail.com correction/more precise: where I can define the sort order. If I add Dates as keys in a dict, they are sorted by printstring (?). I need the dict to sort date keys by time. Sabine -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/no-SortedDictionary-available-tp4699050p4699052.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any ideas? (For the record, I do not need the B3DAcceleratorPlugin, so I guess it could just be left out, but I don't know how does one do that either) 2013/7/16 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7746000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7742000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7728000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb75c5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7783000) Thanks! :) Well that looks fine to me. Sorry that I could not help Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
ouch! I forgot to execute the script this time, and didn't install the patch either.. trying again, thanks! :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Hi! before compiling you have to, inside the build folder, execute codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Besides, I was looking at luc's tutorial and it lacks one step to have serial plugin built: install the patch he made [1]. Did you do that? I added a comment in the blog entry just in case... Guille [1] https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=119q=luc On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any ideas? (For the record, I do not need the B3DAcceleratorPlugin, so I guess it could just be left out, but I don't know how does one do that either) 2013/7/16 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7746000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7742000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7728000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb75c5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7783000) Thanks! :) Well that looks fine to me. Sorry that I could not help Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
Okay, it seems the patch is already included in the latest VMMaker image, so no need to apply it. Still, having executed the script, I get yet another error, this time related to gl.h (why does it need it? I left B3DAcceleratorPlugin out): [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/SqDisplay.h:16:0, from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:140: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/sqUnixOpenGL.h:21:22: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com ouch! I forgot to execute the script this time, and didn't install the patch either.. trying again, thanks! :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Hi! before compiling you have to, inside the build folder, execute codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Besides, I was looking at luc's tutorial and it lacks one step to have serial plugin built: install the patch he made [1]. Did you do that? I added a comment in the blog entry just in case... Guille [1] https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=119q=luc On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any ideas? (For the record, I do not need the B3DAcceleratorPlugin, so I guess it could just be left out, but I don't know how does one do that either) 2013/7/16 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7746000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7742000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7728000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb75c5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7783000) Thanks! :) Well that looks fine to me. Sorry that I could not help Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
So I compiled two VMs, one with the SerialPlugin as an internal plugin, the other one as an external plugin. On a Debian box, I connect an Arduino Diecimila board and I get its handler at /dev/ttyUSB0. However, on both VMs with fresh Pharo 2.0 images: SerialPort new openPort: '/dev/ttyUSB0' Fails with a generic error. What's wrong with SerialPort? The cannot open port error message is about as informative as sorry, not gonna happen :( 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Great! I was missing the gl and alsa headers. All done now, thanks a lot :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, it seems the patch is already included in the latest VMMaker image, so no need to apply it. That's nice :). Anyone with grants in the issue tracker can close it?? :D Still, having executed the script, I get yet another error, this time related to gl.h (why does it need it? I left B3DAcceleratorPlugin out): [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/SqDisplay.h:16:0, from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:140: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/sqUnixOpenGL.h:21:22: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Hmm, which configuration are you using to copile? I think there is a UnixNoGLConfiguration or something like that... So either you install the gl libraries or use the no gl configuration to generate the sources :). In any case, I really don't know why there is that dependency with opengl... 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com ouch! I forgot to execute the script this time, and didn't install the patch either.. trying again, thanks! :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Hi! before compiling you have to, inside the build folder, execute codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Besides, I was looking at luc's tutorial and it lacks one step to have serial plugin built: install the patch he made [1]. Did you do that? I added a comment in the blog entry just in case... Guille [1] https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=119q=luc On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Any ideas? (For the record, I do not need the B3DAcceleratorPlugin, so I guess it could just be left out, but I don't know how does one do that either) 2013/7/16 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
Yep, I found that thread and tried all possible combinations: '/dev/ttyUSB0' '/dev//ttyUSB0' '/dev/ttyusb0' '/dev//ttyusb0' 'ttyUSB0' 'ttyusb0' and none worked... :( 2013/7/17 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com It is indeed annoying and obviously buggy. I kinda fixed it last year but since I didn't had any serial port stuff to test it, it was just in abstract (Luc was using it, thought) There was a report a couple of weeks ago to try using double slash. SerialPort new openPort: '/dev//ttyUSB0' Esteban On Jul 17, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: So I compiled two VMs, one with the SerialPlugin as an internal plugin, the other one as an external plugin. On a Debian box, I connect an Arduino Diecimila board and I get its handler at /dev/ttyUSB0. However, on both VMs with fresh Pharo 2.0 images: SerialPort new openPort: '/dev/ttyUSB0' Fails with a generic error. What's wrong with SerialPort? The cannot open port error message is about as informative as sorry, not gonna happen :( 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Great! I was missing the gl and alsa headers. All done now, thanks a lot :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, it seems the patch is already included in the latest VMMaker image, so no need to apply it. That's nice :). Anyone with grants in the issue tracker can close it?? :D Still, having executed the script, I get yet another error, this time related to gl.h (why does it need it? I left B3DAcceleratorPlugin out): [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/SqDisplay.h:16:0, from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:140: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/sqUnixOpenGL.h:21:22: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Hmm, which configuration are you using to copile? I think there is a UnixNoGLConfiguration or something like that... So either you install the gl libraries or use the no gl configuration to generate the sources :). In any case, I really don't know why there is that dependency with opengl... 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com ouch! I forgot to execute the script this time, and didn't install the patch either.. trying again, thanks! :) 2013/7/17 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Hi! before compiling you have to, inside the build folder, execute codegen-scripts/extract-commit-info.sh Besides, I was looking at luc's tutorial and it lacks one step to have serial plugin built: install the patch he made [1]. Did you do that? I added a comment in the blog entry just in case... Guille [1] https://code.google.com/p/cog/issues/detail?id=119q=luc On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: I found out how to leave B3DAcceleratorPlugin out, but now I get this error almost at the end of the compilation process: [ 95%] Building C object CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c:41:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/vm/sqSCCSVersion.h:17:54: fatal error: vmVersionInfo.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/unix/vm/sqUnixMain.c.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/CogVM.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 El fitxer o directori no existeix is Catalan for The file or directory does not exist. How comes this header isn't there? 2013/7/17 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Ok, it seems the problem was not having the sources file in the same directory as the image. Anyway, now I've another problem when trying to compile. cmake runs fine, but make fails with the following error: Scanning dependencies of target B3DAcceleratorPlugin [ 57%] Building C object B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c.o In file included from /home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.c:36:0: /home/bromagosa/blessed/platforms/Cross/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.h:8:19: fatal error: GL/gl.h: El fitxer o directori no existeix compilation terminated. make[2]: *** [B3DAcceleratorPlugin/CMakeFiles/B3DAcceleratorPlugin.dir/home/bromagosa/blessed/src/plugins/B3DAcceleratorPlugin
Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] BioSmalltalk published in Bioinformatics Journal
Congratulations!! 2013/7/16 Yuriy Tymchuk yuriy.tymc...@me.com Congrats! That's a very good news Надіслано з iPhone 16 лип. 2013 о 09:33 Hernán Morales Durand hernan.mora...@gmail.com написав(ла): Dear Smalltalkers, I am proud to announce that Bioinformatics Journal has accepted and published my article BioSmalltalk: A pure object system and library for bioinformatics. Bioinformatics is the leading journal in the Bioinformatics field, and publishes the highest quality scientific papers and review articles of interest to academic and industrial researchers. http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/07/09/bioinformatics.btt398.abstract I want to thank you, all the nice people who write regularly and helped me in these lists over last three years. And feel free to join the Bio* lists, there is always new cool things to do! Best regards, http://code.google.com/p/biosmalltalk/ Hernán Morales Institute of Veterinary Genetics. National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. Internal: 422 Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin
Hi Friedrich, My machine is already a 32 bits one... here's the output of ldd: linux-gate.so.1 = (0xb7782000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7746000) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7742000) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7728000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb75c5000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7783000) Thanks! :) 2013/7/15 Friedrich Dominicus fr...@q-software-solutions.de Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com writes: Hi list, Any chance to get SerialPlugin working in Pharo 2.0 under Debian? I tried to follow the instructions in http://car.mines-douai.fr/2013/01/serialplugin-in-the-pharo-vm/ but I didn't succeed. The second step already failed giving me the folowing error: Error: Could not find accessor for variable named bytesToAllocate in NBUnixExternalHeapManager#mmapLength:prot:flags:into: I have it running here. See my other posts with my problems. Have you installed really all the 32-bit libraries? what't the output of ldd on the pharo executable? Is there something missing? Regards Friedrich -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
Sorry for being lazy, but how does one use logical operators in dictionary
queries?
I'm trying something like:
(User selectMany: { 'profile.firstName' - { '$regex' - '^.*na.*'.
'$options' - 'i'} asDictionary } asDictionary).
And I'd like to *$or* this with:
'profile.surname' - { '$regex' - '^.*ve.*'. '$options' - 'i'}
asDictionary.
2013/7/6 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
On Jul 6, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
sure :)
I will add a blog post on voyage advanced queries too :)
too if you want but we could also focus on the chapter because we can be
multiple people to edit it
while your blog you are alone.
Stef
Esteban
On Jul 6, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
wrote:
esteban could you take some time to add this information to the Voyage
chapter?
https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/
add the information in any format and I can make it run.
https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english
Stef
On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:49 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
you have different constructions:
{ $gt: { number_field: 42 } }
and so on... always with dictionaries (bah, json structs).
as a query language it kinda sucks... but well... is how it is :)
On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.duca...@inria.fr wrote:
Ok but how do I map conceptual a query to a dictionary
Do I guess right that there is an exact match
selectOne: { id - 10} asDictionary
will match id = 10
Now we can only do exact mathc?
name matches: 'stef*'
On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo
emaring...@gmail.com wrote:
Stef,
You're asking the other Esteban, but having used Voyage and Mongo I
think I can answer this.
Mongo receives a JSON object to do all the query filtering. For a
simple lookup it is has a simple structre, as the query gets more
complex it gets esoteric as well (with special MongoDB keys in the
format of $key).
Because the simplest map we have to a JSON Object is the Dictionary,
I
guess that's why it ends up being converted to a Dictionary, which in
turn gets converted to JSON and/or BSON.
Regards,
Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/7/4 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi :)
can you check if you have the MongoQueries package installed?
cheers,
Esteban
ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
[ :each | each name first = $X ]
because the MongoQueries package just translates the block into a
mongo-query which is a dictionary (a JSON expression). But you will
found
some ways to help you, some special keywords like #in: and #where:
(you can
see how they work in the tests)
esteban
how a dictionary is used to work as a block for a query?
Can you explain because I would have thought that the first line
did not
work and the second would work.
Stef
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I
prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can
benefit from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #selectOne: and
#selectMany:, but
it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a
VOMongoConnectionError.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from
writing
more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version
loaded
via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can benefit from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #*selectOne:* and #*selectMany:*,
but it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a *VOMongoConnectionError*.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from writing
more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version loaded
via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
Hi Esteban,
I installed MongoQueries-NicolasPetton.6, but I did it manually, should I
have used some Monticello configuration perhaps?
Thanks!
2013/7/4 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
Hi :)
can you check if you have the MongoQueries package installed?
cheers,
Esteban
ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
[ :each | each name first = $X ]
because the MongoQueries package just translates the block into a
mongo-query which is a dictionary (a JSON expression). But you will found
some ways to help you, some special keywords like #in: and #where: (you can
see how they work in the tests)
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can benefit from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #*selectOne:* and #*selectMany:*,
but it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a *VOMongoConnectionError*
.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from
writing more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version loaded
via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
Hmm, none of the MongoQueries tests pass, giving the following #dnu:
MessageNotUnderstood: BlockClosurebsonTypeCode
I guess I'm missing some packages?
2013/7/4 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com
Hi Esteban,
I installed MongoQueries-NicolasPetton.6, but I did it manually, should I
have used some Monticello configuration perhaps?
Thanks!
2013/7/4 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
Hi :)
can you check if you have the MongoQueries package installed?
cheers,
Esteban
ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
[ :each | each name first = $X ]
because the MongoQueries package just translates the block into a
mongo-query which is a dictionary (a JSON expression). But you will found
some ways to help you, some special keywords like #in: and #where: (you can
see how they work in the tests)
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can benefit from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #*selectOne:* and #*selectMany:
*, but it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a *VOMongoConnectionError*
.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from
writing more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version loaded
via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
I'm so ashamed I hadn't tried this before asking... a simple
*ConfigurationOfMongoTalk
load* did the job ¬¬
Thanks a lot!
2013/7/4 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
Mmm... no idea... you could try by updating all the MongoTalk package,
probably is out of sync :)
On Jul 4, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote:
Hmm, none of the MongoQueries tests pass, giving the following #dnu:
MessageNotUnderstood: BlockClosurebsonTypeCode
I guess I'm missing some packages?
2013/7/4 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com
Hi Esteban,
I installed MongoQueries-NicolasPetton.6, but I did it manually, should I
have used some Monticello configuration perhaps?
Thanks!
2013/7/4 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
Hi :)
can you check if you have the MongoQueries package installed?
cheers,
Esteban
ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
[ :each | each name first = $X ]
because the MongoQueries package just translates the block into a
mongo-query which is a dictionary (a JSON expression). But you will found
some ways to help you, some special keywords like #in: and #where: (you can
see how they work in the tests)
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can benefit from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #*selectOne:* and #*
selectMany:*, but it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a *VOMongoConnectionError
*.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from
writing more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version
loaded via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
--
Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] [Voyage] #selectOne: and #selectMany: with a block as the argument
For other kinds of matches, you need javascript queries, if I understood:
User selectOne: [ :each | each where: 'this.name[0] == s' ]
Right?
2013/7/4 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
Ok but how do I map conceptual a query to a dictionary
Do I guess right that there is an exact match
selectOne: { id - 10} asDictionary
will match id = 10
Now we can only do exact mathc?
name matches: 'stef*'
On Jul 4, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo emaring...@gmail.com
wrote:
Stef,
You're asking the other Esteban, but having used Voyage and Mongo I
think I can answer this.
Mongo receives a JSON object to do all the query filtering. For a
simple lookup it is has a simple structre, as the query gets more
complex it gets esoteric as well (with special MongoDB keys in the
format of $key).
Because the simplest map we have to a JSON Object is the Dictionary, I
guess that's why it ends up being converted to a Dictionary, which in
turn gets converted to JSON and/or BSON.
Regards,
Esteban A. Maringolo
2013/7/4 Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr:
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi :)
can you check if you have the MongoQueries package installed?
cheers,
Esteban
ps: please notice that in anycase you will not be able to execute
[ :each | each name first = $X ]
because the MongoQueries package just translates the block into a
mongo-query which is a dictionary (a JSON expression). But you will
found
some ways to help you, some special keywords like #in: and #where: (you
can
see how they work in the tests)
esteban
how a dictionary is used to work as a block for a query?
Can you explain because I would have thought that the first line did not
work and the second would work.
Stef
On Jul 4, 2013, at 2:17 PM, Bernat Romagosa
tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi!
I realize probably only Esteban will be able to answer, but I prefer to
write to the list so the mail is logged and other people can benefit
from
it.
I'm trying to use blocks as arguments for #selectOne: and #selectMany:,
but
it doesn't seem to work. Here's my code:
MyClass selectOne: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectOne: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first one works, but the second one raises a VOMongoConnectionError.
Also:
MyClass selectMany: { #name - 'Some name' } asDictionary.
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name = 'Some name' ].
The first does work, the second one doesn't, which prevents me from
writing
more useful stuff like:
MyClass selectMany: [ :each | each name first = $P ].
Any idea why this could be failing? I've the latest stable version
loaded
via:
Gofer it
url: 'http://smalltalkhub.com/mc/estebanlm/Voyage/main';
package: 'ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo';
load.
(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfVoyageMongo) load.
Thanks! :)
Bernat.
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Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references
Bump? 2013/6/6 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi! I'm having an issue I don't recall having had about half a year ago when trying out Voyage. In my schema, a *User* has an *instVar* referencing all the *Center*s he belongs to, and a *Center* has an *instVar* referencing all of its *User*s, so when the Voyage serializer tries to serialize a user (or a center), it goes into an infinite loop trying to find the end of the reference chain and the image clogs. I remember saving the exact same schema a while ago without a problem, is there something new I should know about? BTW, I'm using the #bleedingEdge version, with Magritte3 and all. Thanks! :) -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
Re: [Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references
Hi Esteban! Thanks a lot, I tried your code and it's working for me, so the problem must be somewhere else. I set up a logger in VOMongoSerializer #serialize:description:using: and I can confirm it keeps jumping back and forth between two related objects, but I don't really know why... #new is overriden in my model classes, could this have any impact? 2013/6/11 Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com Hi, sorry... I has been running like hell last two weeks. I posted a reply http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17039914/how-to-persist-graphs-presenting-circular-references-in-voyage but sadly no good news... I don't know where is your error. Probably a problem in your configuration. I have in my TODO list to write a comprehensive documentation for voyage, but I'm not sure when I will have the time to finish it... I promise next weeks :) Esteban On Jun 11, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com wrote: Bump? 2013/6/6 Bernat Romagosa tibabenfortlapala...@gmail.com Hi! I'm having an issue I don't recall having had about half a year ago when trying out Voyage. In my schema, a *User* has an *instVar* referencing all the *Center*s he belongs to, and a *Center* has an *instVar* referencing all of its *User*s, so when the Voyage serializer tries to serialize a user (or a center), it goes into an infinite loop trying to find the end of the reference chain and the image clogs. I remember saving the exact same schema a while ago without a problem, is there something new I should know about? BTW, I'm using the #bleedingEdge version, with Magritte3 and all. Thanks! :) -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa. -- Bernat Romagosa.
[Pharo-users] Voyage: Circular references
Hi! I'm having an issue I don't recall having had about half a year ago when trying out Voyage. In my schema, a *User* has an *instVar* referencing all the *Center*s he belongs to, and a *Center* has an *instVar* referencing all of its *User*s, so when the Voyage serializer tries to serialize a user (or a center), it goes into an infinite loop trying to find the end of the reference chain and the image clogs. I remember saving the exact same schema a while ago without a problem, is there something new I should know about? BTW, I'm using the #bleedingEdge version, with Magritte3 and all. Thanks! :) -- Bernat Romagosa.
