Re: [pinhole-discussion] cold devo blues

2003-12-15 Thread Scott Sellers
aaron :
> i am wondering if anyone on the list has a suggestion for cold
> processing. do some developers work better at low temperatures
> than others? most don't seem to have time reccomendations below
> 68 degrees.  winter is here and it would be nice to find a
> working alternative to heating chemistry...
> 

Hi Aaron,

I don't have personal experience, but "The Darkroom Cookbook" by
Stephen G. Anchell has a section on low temp developers (pp.
166-169).  A chart on page 167 shows four low temp developers,
among which Kodak D-8 looks the simplest.  According to the
chart, it can develop at 50F in 6 minutes, all the way down to
30F in 18 minutes. 

hth,
Scott
 
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Re: [pinhole-discussion] PS4

2003-10-21 Thread Scott Sellers
Zero Image :
> Please count me in for the PS4.
> 
> Our gentleman Ron has already set up the page for the PS4 at
> http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholenewyear2004.php3
> and I have join the list :-) Can't wait to receive your new pinhole
> images...just like old friends meet together every year...
> 
> P.S. I missed the Pinhole-discussion's email for the last week
> becasue of some problem of my email address! Maybe you all
> already know about Ron's page. I am sure I won't miss the PS4
> (when I saw the subject line I just wonder if Sony has launch
> the new PS4 to replace their PS2!)
> 
Hi Zernike,

Just to clarify, PS4 is the more formal swap being set up by Jean
Daubas.  The rahji.com website is to sign up for the
postcard-type holiday season swap.

To list members who are new to swaps, the informal swap might be
a good way to get your feet wet.  The prints are small (postcard/
greeting card size).  The quality and the number you send are up
to you -- the more the better, of course. ;)  There is something
cool about sending your cards out to navigate all corners of the
globe, and to think on the other end you might lift someone's
day.  It's all about what you can/want to give.  I've found it
rewarding each year.

regards,
Scott S

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] WWPD III

2003-04-07 Thread Scott Sellers
Chuck Flagg :
> Hello,
> This list has been a little quiet.  Everyone must be preparing
> for WWPD III!  Only 20 days left.  Any new ideas for unusual
> cameras.  I've been preping my students.
> 

Hi Chuck, all;

As a regular reader and sometime poster here, I also notice the
list has grown quiet.  I think maybe events in the world have
overtaken us.

I respect the need to keep political discussion out of forums
like this.  It should be about pinhole here, and the inclusive
humanistic values that animated World Wide Pinhole Day in the
first place.  At times like this, I think this spirit is needed
more than ever.  

I'd like to suggest that contributors take the opportunity of
this WWPD to reach out, find commonality, and to express your
values and concerns, whatever they might be.

peace all, and as always:
keep on pinholin'

Scott

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Body caps?

2003-04-01 Thread Scott Sellers
CJ Rumpolo :
> Hi, I am just starting to dabble in pinhole photography and was
> wondering if someone could offer me an answer  to a question or
> two. I want to try to drill a pinhole into the body cap of my
> Bronica but I do not know how to measure the focal length of
> the body so I can drill an appropriate size pinhole. How do I
> measure this distance. I am guessing it is the measure from the
> film plane to the inside of the body cap. Thanks in advance CJ.

CJ,

You guessed right! :)  I don't know about the Bronica, but on my
35mm slr I measure the fl by taking off the lens, locking up the
mirror (using manual exposure 'bulb' setting) and using a small
measure from the film plane to where the pinhole will be mounted.
Make sure you have the mechanism locked down before you start
poking around -- you don't want to damage the camera!  It doesn't
require much precision in the measurement.  It's pinhole
afterall!

hth,
Scott

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] 6x22 pinhole camera coverage?!

2003-03-15 Thread Scott Sellers
On  0, Andrew  Amundsen  wrote:
[...] 
> My inquiry is regarding how an image would look from such a
> long neg.?  The stated aperture size is f/360. Would the edges
> suffer from extreme distortion? I'm surprised that the coverage
> would even fill that length of 22cm!?
> 
> They share no images produced with said camera so I have
> doubts, with my limited understanding of pinhole imagery, to
> how good the detail would be at the extremes?
> 
> Anyone care to enlighten us with some expertise?
> 
The main factor when considering coverage is focal length.  To
get an idea of how a particular FL will cover various formats,
you could make say an 8x10 a camera of the same focal length,
shoot some images, then mask off the negative size you are
considering, be it 6x6, 6x9, 6x22, 4x5, 5x7, etc.

cheers,
Scott

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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye

2003-01-06 Thread Scott Sellers
On Sunday, January 5, 2003, erick...@hickorytech.net wrote:

> Another thing occurs to me. The camera analogy is also limited by the fact
> that camera shutters open and close, while light streams into the human eye
> continuously. The operative 'shutter speed" would have to be the duration of
> exposure to the rod or cone required to trigger nerve conduction. I don't
> know whether there is a trasmission period followed by a refractory period,
> which would equate to shutter speed, or not.

It's been a while since I studied any of this, but as I
understand, the rods and cones in the retina sense light through
chemical reactions.  Eye as darkroom?  These chemicals would need
to be replenished, which could effect the sample rate.

One probably related phenomenon I've noticed, when in a pitch
black room, after firing a flash at a subject I'm gazing towards,
if I keep my eyes open and still for several seconds in the
subsequent darkness, a negative of the image "develops", and just
sort of hangs there for several seconds.  Wild fun! ;)


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: swap

2002-12-17 Thread Scott Sellers
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, R Duarte wrote:

> As far as the "swap" goes.. last year we sort of said that this isn't a real
> swap where it's organized and you know what you're going to get.  It's true
> that you could send cards to 40 random addresses from the website and get 2
> back but I don't think that happened to anyone last year.  I got a ton.  I
> admit that I did send mine out late so I made sure that everyone who had
> already sent me a card got one from me but it doesn't have to work that way.
> It's more about sending your work out and not expecting anything in return I
> think - kind of like other holiday gifts and cards?  :)

> rob 

> (aka rich duarte)  heheh ;)


Heh ;)  Rob, all pinholers should have at least one alias.  No, I
think actually I was confused by the *rich* contribution you've
made to this swap! ;)


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] swap

2002-12-16 Thread Scott Sellers
On Sunday, December 15, 2002, S and C Graham Foto wrote:

>  Hello, what exactly is the swap all about, and how do
> i participate. thank you

Hello.  A swap is an agreement to exchange prints by mail.
Details vary.  Last year we had one loosely based on a holiday
theme. I found it very satisfying to receive pinhole postcards
from around the world.

A web-based sign up for this year's version has been provided
(again) by Rich Duarte:

http://www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3

In fact, I'm going to go sign up right now.  REmember all, the
deadline is extended to Jan. 31 (and even that isn't set in
stone).  I hope as many will sign up this year as last.

Scott

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Re[3]: [pinhole-discussion] (no subject)

2002-12-12 Thread Scott Sellers
On Thursday, December 12, 2002, Ingo Günther wrote:

> pinhole-discussion@p at ??? schrieb am 12.12.02 06:20:28:
>> Great discussions!  It improves us all as artists.
>> 
>> Only 13 shopping days to Christmas..buy art!
>> Happy Holidays to All on the list!
>> 
>> ~Chuck Flagg~

> yes Chuck, so it is. But also 13 shopping days to send pinhole
> postcards to the members from the list on
> www.rahji.com/noindex/pinholexmas.php3?random=49 I will start
> mailing today. Also from me: Happy Holidays to All!

Hmm... this is last years list, which I thought was a one-time
swap. Not that I'm against another swap (it was great) but I'm
not prepared to reciprocate in a timely fashion, and I wonder if
most others on the list are also unaware that it is still up.

Scott


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] "rings" on photos. What could be the cause?

2002-07-06 Thread Scott Sellers
On Wednesday, July 03, 2002, Justin Bell wrote:

[...]

> In doing so, I made another pinhole. But now I have tried 2 pinholes with
> the new modified focal length, and I'm getting 'rings' on the photo
> (http://soupisgoodfood.net/temp/pinhole.jpg, sorry for the poor photo, I had
> to take a digi of it using my monitor as a lightbox :).

> I'm guessing I didn't see the rings before I changed the focal length
> because it fell outside the frame.

> What do you think is causing it? Pinhole too small/refaction of light? The
> fact that I made it from heavy aluminium foil (one of those pie trays that
> comes with frozen pies to be exact). The "drill" method?


It looks like light reflecting off the inside edge(s) of your
pinhole.


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] OT: Digest - Mangled

2002-06-07 Thread Scott Sellers
On Friday, June 07, 2002, Christian Harkness wrote:

> Hi, even the responses to my original post concerning
> my problems with reading the digest version of the forum
> are getting so mangled that I have a hard time
> following what is going on.

Unfortunately, the most popular e-mail clients, both PC and web
based, mangle by design.  This happens when establishing market
control is more important than maintaining clear, free, and
universal modes of communication. Since the formats for quality
text based communication were pretty well hammered out in early
times, the only way for M$ and the like to gain proprietary
control is to cripple them.  So we end up with things like
top-posting, and quoted text formats that are not only
incompatible, but ultimately stifle communication itself.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] film canister cameras

2002-05-22 Thread Scott Sellers
On Wednesday, May 22, 2002, Shannon Stoney wrote:


[...]

> OK. I did this when I made a pinhole camera out of a cookie tin.  But why
> does it make a difference if the hole is made out of thin metal?  Does the
> thickness of the plastic make the image smaller?

Yes.  It's like looking through a straw.  The opening closest to
you does, in fact, see 180 degrees.  But most of what it is
seeing ends up being the inside of a tube, which is often devoid
of texture and contrast, and being opaque, doesn't render
photographically.  This vs. the non-tube world, which comes
through the aperture on the other end, which is probably what you
want to emphasize. :)

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: pinhole is not about "sharpness"?

2002-05-09 Thread Scott Sellers
On Wednesday, May 08, 2002, aaron wrote:

> of all the mediums, to choose for sharpness...
> i would think that there is something else that draws us all to this.
> for me it's a sense of ritual that ends in image...

Maybe sharpness isn't the right term to apply to pinhole. I think
even the sharpest pinhole images keep a pinhole quality.  It's
kind of a glow.

I think there is something to be said for detail. Some of my
favorite pinhole images are where parts are clear and others are
blurred/stretched due to motion or distortion in the filmplane. I
also like detail across the depth of focus.  That's very
pinholey.

I also like the process.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Teaching Pinhole to 7th graders

2002-03-09 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Beau,

On Saturday, March 09, 2002, Beau Schwarz wrote:
> Hi,
> My wife has given me the opporitunity of teaching a class of gifted (meaning 
> 'divergent thinkers' in teacher lingo) 7th graders to build and then 
> photograph with pinhole cameras. The proposed budjet is $50 to $75 and the 
> length would be 3 to 4 weeks. I have done this 3 times before with 3rd grade 
> classes. Each time we have had limited success.

> Building the cameras with shoeboxes or storage boxes has never been a 
> problem. A pinvice and 600 grit is used for aperatures. Liberal use of tape 
> and flat black paint corrected most construction problems. Getting usable 
> negatives and controlling contrast has been our downfall. Previously we have 
> used Ilford Mult. (for both the negative and the final image) and Dektol as 
> the developer (along with other kodak products for stop and fix). The 
> results were mixed at best, the few exposures that did print were had 
> extreame contrast.

[...]

If you aren't getting useable images, double check light control.
Make sure the paper isn't getting flashed at any point in the
process. Make sure the "darkroom" where you do all loading and
processing is dark (sit in it for 10-15 minutes, it should still be
dark), and your safelight is safe.

Also, make sure your pinholes are big enough to match the focal
length of your container, exposure times are long enough, and the
cameras are reasonably steady during exposure.

I'd stick with paper negatives for this project. They can give
very satisfying results.

Good luck!

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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Darkslide terminology

2002-03-05 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Peter,

On Monday, March 04, 2002, Peter Jones wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:11:23 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>>I just got a copy of an Ilford Manual of Photography from the 1920's.  What we
>>call filmholders are called dark slides in the book, and what we now call
>>dark slides are called shutters.  And a cable release is called an
>>'Antinous Release'.
>>
> I always thought dark slides were called dark slides - in the UK at
> least.

Hmm...  if filmholders are dark slides, what are dark slides?

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] "pinhole noise", secret holes, and "sampling" grapes

2002-01-31 Thread Scott Sellers
On Tuesday, January 29, 2002, Lisa Reddig wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: R Duarte 

>> Here's my embarrassing contribution to the two topics...
>> http://www.rahji.com/images/pinhole_chairhole.jpg
>>
>> Here's why it happened.. This is a polaroid land camera that I bought for
> $2
>> and modified so that the shutter stays open as long as you hold the button
>> down...
>> http://www.rahji.com/images/polaroidmishap.jpg

> Rob,

> I love the photo.  The hole is almost round, but slightly smashed in on a
> couple of sides.  And it goes real well with the metallic confusing subject.
> I kind of feel upside down when looking at it.

> And I happen to like light leaks on the side.  It adds an extra dimension to
> the negative.  Makes it more than just an illusion.  I do like the solid
> black border as well, but the addition of the light gives some abstraction
> to a non abstract photo.  It's doing just what emulsion does, it's
> registering light that hits it.  It kind of knocks the viewer out of their
> reverie that the image they are seeing is real.  It's not, it's just light
> hitting film or paper in some sort of order.

I think the light leak hints at a third reality. First, you've
got the subject. Then you have the inside-looking-out
perspective. Cool enough. But then, it's like someone is prying
the whole thing apart from the side. What is out there?


Scott


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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Holiday Pinhole cards + Pinhole print swap

2001-10-03 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Jean, all:

I like Jean's proposal for the informal swap, except I think the
timeframe should be definite; say mailings should be sent to arrive
in the month of December.  At that point, the website should be
erased, or reset with a new topic and participants list.  I can see
many people, including myself, being reluctant to have their
address permanently posted on a website.

Scott

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Re: Holiday Pinhole cards

2001-10-03 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Zernike, all:

On Wednesday, October 03, 2001, Zernike Au wrote:
> Marcy Merrill wrote:
>>I have my holiday cards printed in volume. Sorry if I'm breaking the rules,
>>but I'll send them willy-nilly, in envelopes, to everyone on the list. I
>>don't expect anything in return. Should I receive a card in the mail from a
>>list subscriber, I'll be totally thrilled! -MM

> That's it. I like it: I don't want it to be a swap--you send one card and
> get one return!
> It is a season greetings from pinholers of the world. Maybe by the day of
> Christmas, we can let each other know how many cards you have... ;-)

I like the idea of people giving what they feel like, within the
bounds of what they are capable of. No formal obligations. I'd
prefer to look at the list as people who would like to receive
cards, with a theme (Joy to Pinholers, whatever) and within a
time frame (December 2001).  Let the chips fall where they may!

For the format, I think it should be limited only by what will
get through the mail.

Scott

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Storage of unprocessed photo paper negatives

2001-08-01 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Dennis,

On Monday, July 30, 2001, Dennis Johanson wrote:
> In order to rationalize (not a word that comes naturally when speaking about 
> pinhole photography) the handling of my pinhole photography I hope that 
> someone could be kind enough to help med with
> the following:

> How long can exposed photo paper used as negative be stored before processing?

> Any special storage requirements?

> Good shooting!

I believe once the silver halides are exposed, they become less
stable, and remain so until developed/fixed.  I don't know
 the effects on the image, or what time frame we're
talking about.  In any case, I think keeping the paper/film cool
becomes even more important after it is exposed.

hth,

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Film/Paper holder.

2001-05-09 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Stephen,

On Wednesday, May 09, 2001, Stephen Gray wrote:
> Hello All.

> I am constructing a pin hole camera in which I am going to use photographic
> paper.  I thought I would construct a paper holder out of magnetic strip but
> don't seem to be able to get hold of it anywhere.  Does anyone know of
> anywhere here in the UK that might sell it ?  I would be grateful for any
> other paper holder ideas too.

For curved filmplane, small glued blocks of wood can hold the
"sprung" negative in place. Leave a little slack, or it might be
difficult to get the negative back out. For flat filmplane, the
box-in-box design Lisa described works well with cardboard or
foamcore. If the boxes fit well, the overlap forms a good light
trap.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] SSellers, question for.

2001-04-27 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello John,

Sorry for the late reply.  I've been out of town since the 14th, and
am just catching up on the list.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2001, John Ptak wrote:
> Howdy.  I was looking at the image upload page and saw
> the silo image by Ssellers.  Is SSellers there?  I'm
> very curious to know the type of camera (etc) used for
> this elegant image.
> Cheers!


This was taken with a camera made of foamcore, holding a 5"x8" paper
negative (cut down from one of the Kodak RC papers) at a 3" focal
length. This was on a motor trip through the South Western US.  On the
trip, each night I'd load the camera (usually in a Motel 6 bathroom).
The next day, while driving wherever it was, I'd look for a good
subject. Spotting such, I'd get out the tripod, extrapolate sunny-16
beyond any reasonable tolerance, then expose the paper using a
wristwatch.  Using this one-day/one-picture method, I came up with a
few failures, several passable shots, and this one, my favorite from
the trip.  This particular image was captured in the Texas panhandle,
in the late afternoon, after driving through a wonderful summer storm,
with towering thunderheads, lightning in the distance, and the smell
of rain quenching dry sagebrush, gila monsters, and hot asphalt.

All the negatives were stored back in the plastic paper envelope
nightly, separated from the unexposed by a piece of cardboard.  They
were processed upon returning home, using ilford liquid concentrate
paper chemicals.  Contact prints were made with a lightbulb and a
piece of glass.  Scans were made from the negatives, and adjusted to
look as much like the prints as possible on my monitor.  I think the
qualities of this image, and the others I uploaded, are fairly
representative of large format, wide angle, paper negative pinhole
photography.

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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] fiber optic pinhole

2001-04-12 Thread Scott Sellers
On Tuesday, April 10, 2001, Pam Niedermayer wrote:
> Here's the home page, click on "The Drinking Straw camera" to see the
> 6 images.

> http://www.andrebaumunk.de/e/index2.htm

Thanks Pam. :)

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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] fiber optic pinhole

2001-04-10 Thread Scott Sellers
On Monday, April 09, 2001, Mike Vande Bunt wrote:

> The Polaroid backs use what is called an "image plate" which is thousands of
> optical fibers fused together in a parallel arrangement.  An image that is
> focused on one side of the plate is transmitted intact (minus a slight amount
> of brightness) to the other side of the plate.  The technology was first
> developed for use in "night vision" scopes.  So, yes, fiber optic "cable" IS
> used in 35mm Polaroid backs, but it's one solid piece fused ou of thousands
> of individual strands of glass.
>
> That said, a single optic fiber should be able to serve as a pinhole.


Somewhere on the web are images (portraits IIRC) made using an array
of drinking straws that (I think) functions like the fiber optic
device you describe.  The bundle of straws is sized to match the film
medium 1:1, and carefully laid up to keep the "pixels" in order.  Each
straw gathers the light from one very narrow angle of view, and
transmits that light to it's own private bit of film.  Unlike pinhole
(and lens photography), there is no flip-flopping of the image.  Also,
the image isn't enlarged or reduced (unless the straws/fibers were to
get bigger or smaller from end to end).  Interesting stuff to
conceive.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Press Release review

2001-03-03 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Pam, all;

On Friday, March 02, 2001, Pam Niedermayer wrote:
> Many thanks to those of you who've taken the time to review the press
> release and send corrections and suggestions. We have moved the
> working copy to http://www.p at ???/WPD/org/pr.html. So please
> check up on us, make sure we applied the mods properly. Please email
> Diana Bloomfield (now in charge of the press release and other online
> docs)  or me off list if you have more suggestions.

I question the central place given in the release to the concept of
"sponsorship".  If an explanation for the genesis of the event is
required, I prefer Guy's original "grass roots / internet" language,
with perhaps a statement like "WPPD is supported by X, Y, and Z
organizations" towards the end of the release.

I also find the primacy given to "laser cut" pinholes a little
incongruous with my idea of the event.  Just my $.02, but I'd prefer
an editorial slant less cognizant of various interests (worthy though
they may be), and more focused on the simplicity, easy availability,
and wonder of pinhole photography.

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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] something to take your mind off wwpd.

2001-02-26 Thread Scott Sellers
Hi Bill,

On Sunday, February 25, 2001, you wrote:
> It also seems necessary to have lighter objects on a black
> background. The opposite leads only to patterns of fog.

Ah...  This makes sense.  Overlapping light areas will quickly build
density and blot out the subject.  Maybe the ideal subject for pinhole
matrix photography would be a snowflake or a well lighted crystal on
black construction paper.

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Re: [pinhole-discussion] something to take your mind off wwpd.

2001-02-25 Thread Scott Sellers
Hi Bill,

On Sunday, February 25, 2001, you wrote:
> I uploaded a couple images as one, taken with the lid of a salt shaker.
> HTTP://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/salt-shaker.jpg.
> They don't have a lot of esthetic value but they are an example of results
> from a three dimensional multiple pinhole array. The salt shaker lid is
> somewhat dome-shaped. Instead of several individual images, one from each
> pinhole, they seem to converge, yielding multiple overlapping images, as
> seen especially in the donut shaped highlights. The one real trick to
> capturing these images is to eliminate all other light sources except a
> single flood focussed on the item being photographed. Any other source of
> light just fogs everything, no matter where it is. The top image is a pot
> and two gravy boats, the bottom one is the same pot plus a pomegranate, with
> a skull in the background. . All in all, educational but not as satisfying
> as my cracker series. A two razor blade slit is next.  Bill.

Interesting.  For this technique, it seems small, high-contrast
subjects would be best, with the actual pattern of the pinholes a
central design element.  A single ant or say ladybug could be turned
into a phalanx -- if you could get them to pose.

I like the experimentation.  However, this work is not as crispy as
your earlier series.

Scott


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Re: [pinhole-discussion] Scott Sellers uploads

2001-02-21 Thread Scott Sellers
Hi Stephen,

On Wednesday, February 21, 2001, you wrote:

> Great Stuff! 

> I was wondering if the extreme hi contrast look was acheived through film
> stock selection, printing or IR film. Also, I' new to pinholing and thought
> read somewhnere that one encounters no wide angle distortion due to lack of
> lens, but I see some in "Silo" whioch actually enhances the picture. Guess
> my "info" about this is wrong.

Hey, thanks for the compliment.  IIRC, these were photographed on
kodak paper, poly contrast II RC, 5x8, ~3.5" FL, with a flat film
plane. Normal processing (as normal as I could get in my bathroom).
>From what I gather, the high contrast is typical w/ paper negs. I
think some of the IR-like quality comes from kind of blown-out
highlights, and in the tree picture, movement in the upper branches.

I think when they say there is no distortion in pinhole, they're
talking about linear distortion (I hope someone can elaborate).  In a
flat-plane camera, the corners/edges of the film are further from the
pinhole than the center of the film, so you have longer focal length
in the corners/edges.  The wider the angle of the camera, the more
this effect.


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Re[2]: [pinhole-discussion] Uploads

2001-02-21 Thread Scott Sellers
Hi Michael,

On Tuesday, February 20, 2001, you wrote:


> |-Original Message-
> |
> |http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ssellers_gas.jpg
> |

> Nice pics, but i think this one is flopped. "GAS" is backward.

These were scanned directly from paper negs -- I'm thinking about
adding flopping to my process, but haven't decided.


-- 
Scott Sellers
mailto:scottsell...@mindspring.com





Re: [pinhole-discussion] 1st WWPD - Draft Press release

2001-02-20 Thread Scott Sellers
Hello Guy,

Fabulous stuff.  Good going!  I can hear teletypes ticking around the
world!  I'll offer a few minor changes.

Tuesday, February 20, 2001, 8:34:14 AM, you wrote:

> Hi folks!

> I sharpened my pen last night and drafted a Press release for the WWPD.
> This is just a draft to kick around.  Make any suggestions, changes you
> want to make and circulate them back to the list.  We're gettin' there!

> Cheers,

> Guy


> -

> Pinhole photographers create 1st Worldwide Pinhole Photography day

> Pinhole photographers from around the world working through the internet
> established the first World Pinhole Photography day, to take place on
> April 19, 2001.  Pinhole Vision and Pinhole Resource, the two largest
> pinhole photography organizations based in the United States, announced
> their enthusiastic support for this grass-root initiative.  On that day,
> pinhole photographers from all over the planet are invited to take their
> pinhole box, shoot a picture and post it on the first World Pinhole
> photography day web site.

Pinhole photographers around the world, working through the internet,
have established the first World Pinhole Photography Day, to take
place on April 29, 2001. Pinhole Visions and The Pinhole Resource, the
two largest pinhole photography organizations based in the United
States, have announced their enthusiastic support for this grass-roots
initiative. On that day, pinhole photographers from around the globe
are invited to take their pinhole cameras, shoot some pictures, and
post them on the first World Pinhole Photography Day web site.

> Pinhole photography, one of the oldest photography technique in
> history, has regained vigour as a photographic genre in the past
> several decades.  It now counts several thousand professional
> artists and supporters around the world who are seduced by the
> beauty of the images created by these lensless cameras.  There is no
> limit to the imagination of pinhole photographers whose equipment
> goes from the simple oatmeal box with a tiny little pinhole to
> Volkswagen vans turned into a camera.

Pinhole photography, one of the oldest photography techniques known,
has regained vigour as a photographic genre in the past few decades.
It now counts several thousand professional artists and supporters
around the world, who have been seduced by the beauty of the images
created by these lensless cameras.  There is no limit to the
imagination of pinhole photographers, whose equipment ranges from
simple oatmeal boxes to precision view cameras to a Volkswagen Van
turned into a camera.

> For more information about this event or to find out how to submit your
> own pinhole photograph on April 29, please contact **Web site to be
> announced**
> --

Again, great stuff Guy.


-- 
Best regards,
 Scottmailto:scottsell...@mindspring.com





[pinhole-discussion] Uploads

2001-02-20 Thread Scott Sellers
Fellow pinholers;

I've taken the opportunity to upload some images to the upload
gallery:

http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ssellers_silo.jpg
http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ssellers_gas.jpg
http://www.p at ???/discussion/upload/images/ssellers_eucalyptus.jpg

These were taken in the fall of '97, on a trip through the
South Western US.

regards,
Scott Sellers


-- 
Scott Sellers
scottsell...@mindspring.com





Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD?

2001-02-19 Thread Scott Sellers
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Sellers" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD?


"James Kellar" :

  ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

> Hi all,
>
> As usual we have lots of issues here everyone has there own opinions
about
[...]

Apologies for the ill-formatted reply.  Reluctant to give in to
Microsoft  hegemony.  Can anyone suggest a decent e-mail client for
windows?

Also, I think I know James' e-mail address after all... ;^)

Scott Sellers




Re: [pinhole-discussion] WPPD?

2001-02-19 Thread Scott Sellers
"James Kellar" :

> Hi all,
>
> As usual we have lots of issues here everyone has there own opinions
about
> each issue. I have talked to Gregg Kemp and he has agreed to put up
a web
> page where every one can vote on each of the issues. I believe that
this is
> the only way that we will get any thing done. So here is what I
would like
> to do.
>
[...]

Sounds good.  A period for submissions, then a period for voting.

> When you send your list of issues please use the subject header
"WPPD ISSUE
> VOTE". If you are e-mailing me a logo use the subject header "WPPD
LOGO
> VOTE".If you are going to send me both, then please send me 2
e-mails with
> right subject header. If you do not use the right subject header I
can not
> promis that your issues and or logos, will be included in the vote.
Do this
> even if you have all ready sent in any suggestions.
>
> I would like to get this to Gregg by Saturday, Febuary 24, 2001  so
get your
> submissions in by this coming Wednesday, Febuary 21.
[...]

Will attempt, but perhaps the submission deadline could be extended
until the weekend, with voting next week?  Also, which e-mail address
should submissions go to?

Thanks again for organizing this, and put me down for a few $$'s
towards and internic fees.

Scott Sellers





Re: [pinhole-discussion] 360 camer help

2001-02-19 Thread Scott Sellers
"STeven Tong" :

> I was wondering if anyone  know how to make the pinhole camera found
> one the fallowing  web page it a 360 camera  and i would like to
know
> how it works so i can try to build on myself.
> http://www.pinholeresource.com/products.html#omniscope
> I would apericate any info  since i cant' afford to buy one.
>

These cameras are basically cylinders, with film wrapped around the
inside and a pinhole at one end.  For more examples, see the Alex
Gilham exhibit in the Pinholer's Gallery at Pinhole Visions:
http://www.p at ???/pinholer/exhibits/

regards,
Scott Sellers




[pinhole-discussion] WPPD Logo

2001-02-17 Thread Scott Sellers
Hi all,

Regarding the WPPD logo, how about using a Mollweide projection map,
similar to the one found at:

http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/gmt/gmt/doc/html/GMT_Docs/node99.html

to represent the "world".  Just a thought.

Also, I second www.pinholeday.org for the url -- catchy, short,
collaborative.  In any case, this is a great movement.  Thanks all for
the inspiration and motivation to get my pinhole act together.

Scott Sellers




Re: [pinhole-discussion] Cracker Cam

2000-12-01 Thread Scott Sellers
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000, Tom Lindsay wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> I took a look at the image that was taken through the cracker and feel
> like it's another bizarre thing that that little hole can do.
> I also would like to see a photo of the camera. I'm in the "I'm amazed
> at how sharp that is" camp.
> 
Not just sharp, but crispy.

-- 
Scott Sellers
(s...@cts.com)



Re: [pinhole-discussion] black tape

2000-11-11 Thread Scott Sellers
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000, Kosinski Family wrote:
> Actually, there is no cloth "electrician's tape" because cloth
> is flammable.  But if you go to an electrician's supplier you
> can get extra wide black vinyl tape (up to 2 inches wide).
> There are lots of these suppliers around, even in the middle of
> nowhere.

Mea culpa.  Actually, it's called "friction tape", and can be
found in the electrical department at home depot.  I'm not sure
what the real world application is.  ONe caveat: I picked up a
roll yesterday, and it is not nearly as sticky as similar tape
I've used before.  In my judgement, this roll is not up to the
task.

Another possibility: black self-adhesive felt, as found in a
craft store.  Cut to size, punch, and adhere.  

-- 
Scott Sellers
(s...@cts.com)



Re: [pinhole-discussion] black paint and pinhole

2000-11-09 Thread Scott Sellers
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000, b2myo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 11/9/00 8:50:36 AM, mpo...@coventry.ac.uk writes:
> 
> << I've been using standard brass shim for pinholes without
> painting the inside black.  I've just read one report that
> reccomends that you do so.  What do other people think?   >>
> 
> I cover the brass on the inside using black tape to within 1/8"
> of the hole.  leezy
> 
I use a hole punch to make a window in black cloth electrician's
tape, then use the same tape for a mount.

-- 
Scott Sellers
(s...@cts.com)



Re: [pinhole-discussion] where 2 measure needle diameters?

2000-09-12 Thread Scott Sellers
On Tue, Sep 12, 2000, Kosinski Family wrote:
> Pinhole wizards,
> By chance, I photographed a needle and projected it, only to
> find it had 2 different angles of taper and the diameter was
> different everywhere along the length of the needle! Checked a
> lot more needles and found the same thing. The question: where
> on the needle does the diameter from the much published chart
> of needle size / diameter apply? If this chart turns out to be
> mythological, it will only increase my esteem for the inexact
> art of pinhole photography.

Once you get past the pointy end, beading needles are mostly
cylindrical.  If you can get your hands on one, an easy way to
measure a needle is with a micrometer.  Then, even with a tapered
needle, you can mark how far to poke it through to achieve the
desired diameter.  

-- 
Scott Sellers
(s...@cts.com)