Re: [PLUG] Laptop video
System76 only supports Ubuntu. Zareason https://zareason.com supports several distros. Think Penguin https://www.thinkpenguin.com is extremely flexible about what distros they support. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com wrote: On 08/07/13 15:26, John Jason Jordan wrote: I guess I'm crossing the Traverse Pro off my list. But that leads me to wonder if there are *any* high end laptops for sale today that I can get decent 3D video with - movies, flash, GL, etc. If your criterion is decent 3D, I think that any Intel Ivy Bridge video would likely meet your needs. Serious gamers want the high performance offered by high end Nvidia and AMD solutions, but for most people, Intel video has certainly reached the good enough level. If I were you, I would be looking at laptops that use the mobile version of the Ivy Bridge architecture, or perhaps Haswell if you like to be on the bleeding edge. Here are a few links that might be useful. Note that phoronix has a tendency to sensationalize, so best to take everything with a grain of salt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_Bridge_%28microarchitecture%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_%28microarchitecture%29 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=intel_hd4000_ivybridgenum=1 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEyNDk galen -- Galen Seitz gal...@seitzassoc.com ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free Geek Tour for the IEEE Sustainable Technologies Conference
Very good to hear. I'll also pass this on to Free Geek Seattle :) Elcaset On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Paul Munday pa...@freegeek.org wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 11:21 -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: Hey Thanks! I passed this on to folks in Free Geek. Paul M -- Technical Support Specialist, Free Geek Free Geek Tech Support: supp...@freegeek.org (503) 232-9350 option 6 Tuesday-Saturday: 12-1,1:30-5:45PM ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Google going Evil
Agreed. We just switched to Frontier Fios here near Seattle. They're not perfect, but they are a lot smaller than comcast. On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote: On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Michael Rasmussen wrote: In a dramatic about-face on a key internet issue yesterday, Google told the FCC that the network neutrality rules Google once championed don’t give citizens the right to run servers on their home broadband connections, and that the Google Fiber network is perfectly within its rights to prohibit customers from attaching the legal devices of their choice to its network. All the more reason to support independent ISPs, even at lower speeds. Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | Have knowledge, will travel. Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. | http://www.appl-ecosys.com Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 19 computer racks
Is it common to find rackmount computer racks that don't have threaded holes? This makes no sense to me. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Wil Cooley wcoo...@nakedape.cc wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Louis Kowolowski lou...@cryptomonkeys.org wrote: Does the 4post cabinet have square or round holes? If square, I’m interested, but I wouldn’t be able to pick it up until Mon. They're round holes, but they're not threaded -- they require clips and there are some on it. Here are some pics: https://plus.google.com/u/2/photos/110718069623479283397/albums/5902193286500172161 Wil ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] 19 computer racks
Good to know. The rackmount standard is no longer quite so standard. I'll be more careful when discussing, recommending rackmount with folks. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net wrote: On Jul 19, 2013, at 2:09 PM, Rick rdoyle16+p...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not very familiar with the round unthreaded holes that this rack apparently has though. The ones I've seen with round, unthreaded holes are intended to use snap in shelves and computer slides. Sometimes, this is a way to ensure 'lock in' so you have to buy the parts from the original vendor. The square hole w/cage nuts, or threaded holes are more standard. Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Mint 14 Xfce issues
These STS (short term service) releases tend to have more bugs than LTS releases. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:34 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:48:27 -0700 Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com dijo: On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:36 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 30 May 2013 19:28:22 -0700 Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com dijo: Have you found the gaping security issues yet? No, but I did find the gaping video bug in Ubuntu. Its actually an upstream bug and the only reason its not affecting Mint yet is because Mint is shipping older packages. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47288 indeed its affecting both Ubuntu and Fedora https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61287 but is not a Ubuntu or Fedora bug. If Ubuntu uses a video package that's known to cause X to lock up, then it becomes an Ubuntu bug. But thanks for the information. I'll make it a point to refuse any video updates from Mint Xfce. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Trying to buy a new laptop (sigh)
Blu-ray came out too late as an optical disk format. It didn't really catch on. Unless you have a specific need to use a Blu-ray burner, I wouldn't bother with it. Glad to hear you checked out Think Penguin. I recently learned about them, they sound like a good shop. They use hardware that's libre software friendly. Also, they're flexible about what distro they provide, unlike System 76. Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 10 May 2013 10:15:04 -0700 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: I don't know if they sell laptop stands or docks, but Think Penguin (in addition to Zareason) is a good place to buy computers from. Thanks for the heads up. I had not heard of Think Penguin before. Sadly, they offer only low end laptops. What I want will probably set me back a couple thousand simoleons. At the top of my list at the moment is the Traverse Pro from Puget Computers in Seattle. It has everything I want except the docking station. But I can use a USB 3.0 docking station with it, and its USB 3.0 ports are at the very back of the sides. Its competition is a high end Thinkpad 530. The Thinkpad offers a perfect docking station, but no blue-ray burner. I have decided to defer the decision until school is out a month from now. The DVD burner in my T61 doesn't work and one of the two DVD drives in my desktop has also died. I'm down to one working DVD burner in the house. But I can limp along for another month. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Trying to buy a new laptop (sigh)
I don't know if they sell laptop stands or docks, but Think Penguin (in addition to Zareason) is a good place to buy computers from. good Luck, Elcaset On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:48 AM, jim karlock jjkarl...@gmail.com wrote: I think somewhere on this thread someone asked if ethernet can work over USB. I just tried a quick test of a Soundstream model ss1001 USB to Ethernet device. It let me load web pages, so I guess it works OK. Ubuntu on an acer Aspire netbook. The device is about 2 long and 3/4 square cross section box with a Ethernet jack on one end and a USB cable coming out the other end. PS: I successfully installed Ubuntu to a 16G thumb drive (but couldn't get a 32G to work something about the formatting.) Thanks JK At 08:36 PM 4/23/2013, Joe Shisei Niski wrote: On 04/22/2013 08:03 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: Why do I want a docking station? Because I have three USB 2.0 devices and one USB 3.0 device that I want attached at all times when at home, plus an ethernet cable. The USB and ethernet ports on every laptop I have ever seen are on the sides, meaning I would have five cables strung down the sides of the computer interfering with the papers I have on the left side and the mouse on the right. This is not acceptable. i've used several different docking stations over the past 20 years (starting with the venerable PowerBook Duo, continuing with a so-so Toshiba, and more recently with the docks for Dell's Latitude series), and wasn't that impressed with any. They were all tied to a specfic laptop (or family thereof) and in my opinion none offered enough convenience to justify the cost. For the last five years i've used an XBrand laptop stand (the fanless model, though my machine would benefit from the extra fan). Not only does it provide extra USB ports, but it has real ergonomic value, elevating the screen to a comfortable height. Sadly, it appears that they may have gone out of business - the domain is for sale, and Amazon has a but handful available (for very good prices). http://www.amazon.com/Xbrand-Height-Adjustable-Laptop-Cooling/dp/B002ELNCB2 http://www.amazon.com/Xbrand-XB-1002F-US-Rotating-Laptop-Stand/dp/B000GB3E9W Joe Shisei Niski Portland, Oregon, USA è‡³èª ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Hardware compatibility help - USB long range Wifi adapter
I've been using an Alfa long range wifi unit on Mint KDE for a few years , it works very well. My Alfa is model # AWUS036H. It has the Realtek 8187 chipset. I don't use Ubuntu, so I don't know how well it will work with that distro. A lot of my friends have used Ubuntu with their Alfas of various chpsets models, and they've had good results. cheers, Elcaset On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Roderick A. Anderson raander...@gmail.comwrote: On 02/02/2013 10:51 AM, Diane Petersen wrote: I have an Acer Aspire netbook running Ubuntu 12.04-32 bit, and the internal wireless network adapter has gone intermittent. I will be traveling soon and decided to go ahead and get a USB adapter with long range capabilities instead of replacing the internal one. I have done research, primarily on the Alfa units. It seems I should be looking at chipset and compatibility with my kernel version. It looks like these units are using a variety of Realtek, Ralink, and Atheros sets. Linux drivers are incredibly hard to find. I'm coming up on Google with vague it sort of works but your have to… over things I cannot understand. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166056 I've installed one of these for a couple of friends and both worked out of the box. A another friend recommended it and likes it so much he has had extras on hand that I've bought from him. One install was for Windows Vista machine and the CD had the driver (if that interests anyone.) Signal-wise it far exceeded my ASUS Netbook's wireless. I saw about 3 to 4 times as many access points around my house with it. Rod -- I'd like to see if anyone is using a unit that works under the Ubuntu 12.04 kernel. Brand is unimportant, but it has to be available in the marketplace. A recommendation would save me headaches of buying something that does not work. I don't need full monitoring capability or the ability to use tools to hack networks. I just want to find available weak/distant free open wifi any hour of every day, and not just when my internal unit decides to function. 802.11n would be really nice but I will take what I can get. Selling one? Even better. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Where should I download ubuntu from
Direct downloads can get corrupted. Torrents are designed to prevent the download getting corrupted, so torrents are your best option. cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 16:20:16 -0800 Mike Cherba mche...@gmail.com dijo: If the main ubuntu.com site is too slow, you could give the torrent a try. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Or if you're going to be at the meeting tonight, bring a blank CD or DVD or two and I'll burn it for you. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] playing PAL region 2 DVDs with subtitles on Linux
I just watched the trailer for Baikonur, it looks like a good movie. Thanks, Elcaset On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:34 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: As long as you use a distro like Mint that comes with libdvdcss2 included, all you have to do is use vlc, you can play PAL DVDs of any region with subtitles. No special setup needed, no loss in quality. Or run Mint live for each movie night, if you prefer. I have added libdvdcss2 to many distros, it rarely works, if added. It always works with a distro like Mint where it is built into the distro. This is much easier than trying to make your stand-alone DVD player region free. Mint 13 KDE LTS is the version I recommend, but any version of mint should work. Cheers, Elcaset On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:59 PM, King Beowulf kingbeow...@gmail.comwrote: On 12/07/2012 10:15 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: For bimonthly movie night, my wife and I watched Absurdistan. The title is apt. Director Veit Helmer recently made Baikonur, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iK464i6tzw a drama filmed at the active Kazakh/Russian launch center, which I would like to see. Amazon sells the DVD for PAL region 2, which is incompatable with my Hollywood-infested DVD player. Will a PAL region 2 disk play using Linux DVD player software? Will the English subtitles display? I'm guessing this can be set up with a lot of effort, but many tweaks may be needed, and frame-rate incompatabilities leading to ugly video. Keith Just another ideato add to all the others: I use dvd::rip (and previously k9copy but development has stopped), to ripDVDs I purchase to be region,macrovisionand css free. Either of these programs allows a straight copy to DVD iso. I then use K3B to burn a dvd. This new DVD will play on anything! I put the iso on a network drive to then streamit to the TV via a linux box (NTSC vs PAL not relavent using vlc or mplayer with the proper libraries installed). All thison Slackware with a region 1 dvd9 DVDRW-DL playerinstalled in to the computer. Usually only takes 1-2 hrs to rip and burn, depending on the size of the movie. Interestingly enough, most DVD players in the last 5 yrs will play both PAL and NTSC content once you strip the region code from the DVD. Both my JVC and Phillips DVD players dont' seem to have a problem. Note re: changing region code on computer DVDRW or standalone DVDplayers. IIRC, you get only 5 changes. So if you can't sent the player to region free you should leave itat region 1 and change the region of the DVD. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?
Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed? Hey Everybody, I have a friend who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his work desktop PC. He's spent the last month or more getting his PC set up the way he likes it. The problem is, he's having problems with Firefox that I'm not having on KDE Mint 13 LTS. Also, he's not liking Unity, in general. He'd like to add Kubuntu desktop, or another DE. He's concerned that this might make things more likely to break in the long run. He might be right about that. He I both like to err on the side of caution stability, using only LTS releases, sticking with an install for years, putting a lot of time effort into setting up the computer just the way each one of us likes it. In other words, not the popular GNU/Linux geek bleeding edge approach. What do you all think? Thanks, Elcaset -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed?
Thanks for the replies, everybody. Does restoring from a backup work reliably? On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Word Wizard word.wiz...@comcast.netwrote: On 11/24/2012 02:06 PM, Dale Snell wrote: On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 13:39:27 -0800 C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Is it wise to add other DEs once Ubuntu 12.04 is installed? Hey Everybody, I have a friend who installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on his work desktop PC. He's spent the last month or more getting his PC set up the way he likes it. The problem is, he's having problems with Firefox that I'm not having on KDE Mint 13 LTS. Also, he's not liking Unity, in general. He'd like to add Kubuntu desktop, or another DE. He's concerned that this might make things more likely to break in the long run. He might be right about that. He I both like to err on the side of caution stability, using only LTS releases, sticking with an install for years, putting a lot of time effort into setting up the computer just the way each one of us likes it. In other words, not the popular GNU/Linux geek bleeding edge approach. What do you all think? Thanks, Elcaset If you're going to experiment with adding additional desktops or window managers (or even new applications that require extensive libs or other changes to your existing system) I find it helpful to back up my existing system first. On a regular basis, even if I make no significant changes to my installation. I use the command line utility dd to make an image file of the disk partition containing the system I want to back up, along with that hard drive's partition table. Thus: dd if=/dev/sda of=Ubuntu.boot.mbr bs=512 count=1 #(for the partition table) dd if=/dev/sda1 of=Ubuntu.img #(for the partition containing my main system) I keep my HOME directory on a separate partition of that first hard drive as well as reserving two other partitions of equal size to the first partition on that drive (a WD 120 gig Sata). That way I have two extra partitions to use to test new distros as they come along. All three installations can use the same HOME directory and files. If I need to remove either a distro being tested or restore the main system after I screwed something up, I have a known working copy of my everyday working system ready to reinstall simply by reversing the dd command thus: dd if=Ubuntu.img of=/dev/sda1 Keeping the backed up image on a separate physical drive (in my case a 250 gig WD Sata) also keeps it safe if and when that first hard drive goes poof. The above dd commands are predicated on my using a USB or DVD live system to log onto that 250 gig WD, which contains the image files. Hope some or this helps. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] kiosk linux desktop?
A MS Windows PC became zombified, or a GNU/Linux PC became zombified? On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.netwrote: We have a node with a desktop machine they had set up as a web-surfing kiosk, which got zombified (udp port 16471, iirc, some kind of click-fraud according to random google results). I suggested the node host install some kind of read-only live-cd-ish linux desktop image on the box. They said yes. Now I need to find one for them. Any suggestions? Extra weight goes to any actual experiences. Thanks! -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Victor upgraded to Ubuntu 12.something
Hi Victor, Give the live DVD, (or live USB, or SD card) of Linux Mint 13 KDE a try. It is LTS (Long Term support) with 5 years of support. Linux Mint 13 KDE is what several of my friends myself, use and love. GNOME fallback mode has just been eliminated from any future versions of GNOME. A lot of people don't like Unity, GNOME3 is so unpopular, that THE GNOME project is going to try to make GNOME 4 more traditional like GNOME 2. The 2011 Members' Choice Awards from LinuxQuestions.org has honored the KDE Community with Best Desktop Environment of the Year. http://dot.kde.org/2012/03/05/kde-best-desktop-environment-year; Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Victor Soich vso...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Plug clinic, I don't like my Ubuntu 12.something. I can't figure out what programs are on my machine. There is no menu. I want to go back to 10.04. Or I want to put on Mint or Debian on my desktop computer. I really don't relish hauling my desktop computer down to the clinic, with my monitor, printer, et. al. Can I get help backing up my files, blowing away Ubuntu 12.something, and putting Debian on my machine, and make sure I can surf the internet, and be able to print, all in the span of 4 hours. I've had issues with all these things in the past, and each time it took an inordinate amount of time. On second thought, I may be getting a laptop, and putting Linux from Scratch, or Debian on it, or whatever more sophisticated people than I suggest. Once I get that working to my satisfaction, I'll blow away my Ubuntu 12.something. Unless there some quick trick to go back to 10.04, I'll leave well enough alone. Is there a mechanism to roll back the operating system, so to speak? Sincerely, Victor Soich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Victor upgraded to Ubuntu 12.something
I forgot to post this link in the previous post Linux Mint 13 KDE: http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2090; On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 5:06 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Victor, Give the live DVD, (or live USB, or SD card) of Linux Mint 13 KDE a try. It is LTS (Long Term support) with 5 years of support. Linux Mint 13 KDE is what several of my friends myself, use and love. GNOME fallback mode has just been eliminated from any future versions of GNOME. A lot of people don't like Unity, GNOME3 is so unpopular, that THE GNOME project is going to try to make GNOME 4 more traditional like GNOME 2. The 2011 Members' Choice Awards from LinuxQuestions.org has honored the KDE Community with Best Desktop Environment of the Year. http://dot.kde.org/2012/03/05/kde-best-desktop-environment-year; Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Victor Soich vso...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Plug clinic, I don't like my Ubuntu 12.something. I can't figure out what programs are on my machine. There is no menu. I want to go back to 10.04. Or I want to put on Mint or Debian on my desktop computer. I really don't relish hauling my desktop computer down to the clinic, with my monitor, printer, et. al. Can I get help backing up my files, blowing away Ubuntu 12.something, and putting Debian on my machine, and make sure I can surf the internet, and be able to print, all in the span of 4 hours. I've had issues with all these things in the past, and each time it took an inordinate amount of time. On second thought, I may be getting a laptop, and putting Linux from Scratch, or Debian on it, or whatever more sophisticated people than I suggest. Once I get that working to my satisfaction, I'll blow away my Ubuntu 12.something. Unless there some quick trick to go back to 10.04, I'll leave well enough alone. Is there a mechanism to roll back the operating system, so to speak? Sincerely, Victor Soich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Noisy mp3s
Richard, While I don't have a solution to your immediate problem, I can tell you, I've had much better luck with the sound quality of FLAC files, as opposed to the lossy lower quality file formats like mp3, aac, even ogg vorbis. Whenever I can choose FLAC, I do so, whether it's recording, ripping, buying, downloading, (in any situation). Also, FLAC is a free codec, like ogg vorbis Theora. Cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote: I have some mp3 recordings to transcribe. For some reason these recordings have some noise in them. What it sounds like is the noise left over when I use a filter in Audacity to remove some noise. (I know, that's a bit weird, but maybe some of you who use the Audacity filter will recognize the effect.) Anyway, the other weird part of this is that if I listen to them on my wife's Win7 machine, they are clear as a bell. They are also clear as a bell if I listen to them on my laptop running XP. The same laptop hardware running Ubuntu 10.4 has the noise. Not all mp3 files on my Ubuntu machine exhibit this problem. So far, it's just the two. They both were recorded phone conversations, but I don't know the recording technology used. It could have been a hand held recorder sitting next to a speaker phone -- that's the usual technique -- or it could have been a fancy phone system that has the ability to record a call. The call is between two offices of a big, east coast consulting company that could very well have that technology. Anyway, does anyone have any ideas about why the sound on my Linux machines show this noise while the sound on two Winders machines does not? And more important, is there anything I can do about it, other than listening on XP while typing on Ubuntu? Thanks. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Noisy mp3s
No, I just mean, in the future, whenever possible, you're better off using FLAC than the other audio formats. Cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote: On 11/15/2012 04:01 PM, C W wrote: Richard, While I don't have a solution to your immediate problem, I can tell you, I've had much better luck with the sound quality of FLAC files, as opposed to the lossy lower quality file formats like mp3, aac, even ogg vorbis. Whenever I can choose FLAC, I do so, whether it's recording, ripping, buying, downloading, (in any situation). Also, FLAC is a free codec, like ogg vorbis Theora. Interesting. I don't have the option of directing the format in which the recording is made, though. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Resolved: Noisy mp3s
No problem, glad you were able to get it to work. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.netwrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:03:31 -0800 Richard C. Steffens rst...@comcast.net wrote: Anyway, does anyone have any ideas about why the sound on my Linux machines show this noise while the sound on two Winders machines does not? And more important, is there anything I can do about it, other than listening on XP while typing on Ubuntu? ... On 11/15/2012 04:23 PM, Dale Snell wrote: Hard to say what this might be. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that you've got clipping somewhere. Try loading one of the errant files into Audacity and check for clipping. If it's there, use Audacity reduce the audio amplitude; that should clear up the problem. Bingo. I had to check the box, Show Clipping in the View menu, and it was obvious. Clipping was present every time one of the speakers spoke. I used the amplify effect to reduce the amplitude from 0.0 to -1.4 and the clipping disappeared. However, while quieter, the noise was still present in the saved mp3 file. On 11/15/2012 06:40 PM, King Beowulf wrote: Rich, what linux audio player are you using? I'm using a program called a python program called Transcribe. I get the same noise when using Movie Player. I'm guessing it uses the same underlying sound library as Transcribe, which uses gstreamer. Interestingly, though, the noise is not present when I play the audio with Audacity. You said you clean up the mp3 in audacity so is the sound quality bad in audacity or just another player? I gave a wrong impression. I did not use Audacity to clean up this particular mp3. I have used Audacity for that purpose in the past, but not this time. It didn't occur to me to try since the noise sounds like an effect I get sometimes when filtering with Audacity. As Dale mentioned, clipping could be a reason. Also, if you didn't set up the noise filter properly you can have introduced some static that depends on the mp3 codec and player (Fraunhofer licensed vs. LAME for example). LAME is what's installed here -- at least for exporting mp3s from Audacity. Also, you may wish to convert to a lossless format (wav or flac) before editing in audacity. Also, consider mp3 bit rate, CBR vs VBR This proved very useful. I imported the mp3 into Audacity at the beginning of this exercise (responding to these e-mails). Since it was already there, I exported the file as flac -- after the amplitude reduction. Now it plays nice and quiet in Transcribe and Movie Player. Thanks to both of you for your helpful ideas. -- Regards, Dick Steffens ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Linux Laptop Reviews
ZaReason is really nice because they have several distro choices like Kubuntu, Mint, etc. Not just Ubuntu. Cheers, Elcaset On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Tim Wescott t...@wescottdesign.com wrote: My Google-Fu fails me. Are there any up-to-date sites that have trustworthy reviews of laptops? Are there any up-to-date sites that have good information on various laptops and their compatibility to Linux? Are there any that do both at once? I'm thinking of replacing my venerable old System 76 machine, for which it is getting hard to find batteries. Given that this thing has carried me for somewhere in the neighborhood of ten years, I'm mightily tempted to go with another System 76, but I'd like to do at least _some_ research first. -- Tim Wescott www.wescottdesign.com Control Communications systems, circuit software design. So I have tried every laptops from all the major vendors in the U.S. that ship with Linux... I like System 76 and the new Dell Sputnik Laptop (XPS 13) but ZaReason also makes some good laptops and locally here in Portland CTL is now making Ubuntu Laptops and Desktops. HP is also rolling some Ubuntu All-In-One's out soon. -- *Benjamin Kerensa* *http://benjaminkerensa.com* *I am what I am because of who we all are - Ubuntu* ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] would this laptop work?
Mint does need to make some changes on its security approach, in my opinion, but Ubuntu is not free from controversy, either. Read this article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2207679/mark-shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-1210-amazon-integration . Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.comwrote: On Oct 17, 2012 8:04 PM, Dale Snell ddsn...@frontier.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:36:01 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:06:27 -0700 Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com dijo: I would suggest against Mint Not because of the politics their found brings in that I personally dislike but instead because by default they disable Kernel Security Updates and also do not announce CVE's to their users. What are CVEs? CVE is an initialism standing for Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures. Basically a system of reporting security exploits and their fixes. A lot of the bugfixes I see for Fedora are CVE security fixes. Yeah Red hat does a lot of CVE fixes they have a lot of developers but Ubuntu and Debian do their fair share. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora publish CVE reports to keep their users aware of security issues affecting apps which Mint does not and further they disable Kernel Security Updates because they feel they are a threat no other distro does this. Check out http://cve.mitre.org/ if you want more details. --Dale -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate it when you do that. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] would this laptop work?
the It's good that the security and privacy concerns have been addressed for now, but many of us are worried where Mark Shuttleworth's new attitude will lead in the long run. Cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:11 AM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.comwrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Mint does need to make some changes on its security approach, in my opinion, but Ubuntu is not free from controversy, either. Read this article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2207679/mark-shuttleworth-defends-ubuntu-1210-amazon-integration . I was actually one of the people who brought up the initial privacy and security concern notably this was all during beta testing so it was not by means a stable or final release and as we approach 12.10 release today the security and privacy concerns have both been addressed. Notably I am a Ubuntu Developer (I do not however work for Canonical). Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Oct 17, 2012 8:04 PM, Dale Snell ddsn...@frontier.com wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:36:01 -0700 John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:06:27 -0700 Benjamin Kerensa bkere...@ubuntu.com dijo: I would suggest against Mint Not because of the politics their found brings in that I personally dislike but instead because by default they disable Kernel Security Updates and also do not announce CVE's to their users. What are CVEs? CVE is an initialism standing for Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures. Basically a system of reporting security exploits and their fixes. A lot of the bugfixes I see for Fedora are CVE security fixes. Yeah Red hat does a lot of CVE fixes they have a lot of developers but Ubuntu and Debian do their fair share. Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora publish CVE reports to keep their users aware of security issues affecting apps which Mint does not and further they disable Kernel Security Updates because they feel they are a threat no other distro does this. Check out http://cve.mitre.org/ if you want more details. --Dale -- Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate it when you do that. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- *Benjamin Kerensa* *http://benjaminkerensa.com* *I am what I am because of who we all are - Ubuntu* ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] What to do when it freezes
Randy, Your best bet for help with linux Mint is irc. #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org. I use the KDE version of Linux Mint, so the key commands are different than Gnome. Mint 7 is no longer supported, so people will probably nag you to use a supported version, but if you keep asking, they'll help. Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Bill Barry b...@billbarry.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Randy Stapilus stapi...@ridenbaugh.com wrote: Hadn't tried it with control as well. I could try that too when occasion arises. Randy Stapilus www.ridenbaugh.com Northwest politics and public affairs WA, OR, ID Public Affairs Digests On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:23 AM, David Fleck david.fl...@mchsi.com wrote: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012, Randy Stapilus wrote: Running Mint 7 Gloria ... I've read about Alt + SysRq + R E I S U B ... but I haven't been able to get that to work. (I've seen some reference online to that option being disabled on Mint.) Likewise Alt + F2 then running kill ... but I haven't been able to get as far as bringing up the terminal. Caveat: never used Mint, don't know it from Adam. But does Ctrl + Alt + F2 get you a terminal? It might not - if the system is sufficiently wedged, you won't be able to wrest control back from the X server. But that's what I've used for the past 15 years or so on SuSE and Slackware. -- David Fleck david.fl...@mchsi.com If you have ssh running you can often ssh in even if X is frozen. Just log in from another machine/phone and kill the offending browser. Bill ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] a LEAN linux using apt-get or yum
Also, Bodhi linux sounds right up your alley. It's Ubunbtu based, but very minimal, fast. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=bodhi Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote: On Fri, 13 Jul 2012, Richard Owlett wrote: The standard distros are stuffed with irrelevant software (office suites/games/etc) AND/OR lack needed such as dialer for USB connected analog modem. Normal versions of Debian and Ubuntu fail both ways. Richard, Really? I've installed xubuntu a couple of times but have wanted the whole enchilada so I did not look for anything different. I'm surprised that debian doesn't allow you to pick and choose. My primary distribution is Slackware and that _always_ allows me to select exactly what I want to install. I never install the xgames group, and all applications are in ap and xap. Networking is in n, libraries in l, and so on. I'm sure you can create your own tiny installation very easily. Many additional tools are available in the SlackBuilds.org repository; you can also easily build your own tools from source. There is a mirror repository at slackware.osuosl.org. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] OSCON Deadline today
Yep, the FREEORG one also works. Thanks very much! Now I'm going to OSCON again. Cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:05 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:38:39 -0700 Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.com dijo: FREEPROJ Thanks. That worked. I am registered for the Expo Hall on Wednesday and Thursday, and when I completed the registration the invoice was -0- and was marked paid. I should add that at the beginning page there is an invitation to ask O'Reilly to ask for a discount for your group. Has anyone done that? Should we? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Tablet vs Laptop
I think The Vivaldi Linux tablet would handle all that. http://makeplaylive.com/ Plus, it's a worthwhile cause. Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Chaz Sliger c...@bctonline.com wrote: I'm going to need a new computer pretty soon and was wondering if a tablet might work for my mobile needs. Mostly I would need internet access and the ability to handle a spreadsheet and email. So. Net + Email + Spreadsheet Are there any tablets out there that would qualify? ~chaz c...@bctonline.com ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] srt files and movies on linux
Also good to know. I have been searching for subs for the Canadian telly series Intelligence, still no joy. I will try my regular old search engine now (startpage.com). Cheers, Elcaset On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:35 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 21:40:49 -0700 Jason Barnett jason.barnet...@gmail.com dijo: You can also try SubDownloader http://www.subdownloader.net/ which will automatically download subtitles for your movies. I have found SubDownloader to be largely useless for me. It has a drop-down to select the site to search, but it is set by default to opensubtitles.com, and there are no other choices and no place to type in an alternate site. Opensubtitles.com is great, but sadly it does not have all subtitles. As a fan of obscure movies I find I need to employ the services of Mr. Google to search the entire net. Otherwise, subdownloader has some nice features that make the process a bit easier. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] srt files and movies on linux
Also, you have to rename the subtitle file so that it's exactly the same title as the movie file. Of course the one name difference will be the extension. Watching subtitles in Linux is no different than other OSes that I've tried. Cheers, Elcaset On 6/1/12, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:16:18 -0500 Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net dijo: Looking for any experience or advice concerning adding subtitles to downloaded movies, ON LINUX ... no windows or mac here ... thanks If you have the file already ripped to AVI or MP4 or something, and you need subtitles, just download the subtitles file from allsubs.com (among several other subtitles sources), then use VLC to view the movie. If the .srt is in the same folder as the .avi, VLC will automatically play the subtitles. If the .srt is in a different folder you will have to go to Video Subtitles Open File. I disrecommend Totem or other video player because they are all idiots about subtitles, especially Totem. You have to be careful about downloading the right subtitles for your movie. Quite often I have a subtitles file and a movie file but the subtitles are hopelessly out of sync with the movie. Usually this is because the movie is at 25 fps but the subtitles were created for a different version of the movie at another fps. I watch a lot of ancient European movies and sometimes I can't even find subtitles. Oh, one other tip. If the movie file is MP4 frequently you find that the subtitles are embedded in the file. In that case (in VLC) just go to Video Subtitles and you will see the tracks. If none of that helps, post back with more specifics. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] srt files and movies on linux
Good suggestion. I will try it out. Elcaset On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Jason Barnett jason.barnet...@gmail.comwrote: You can also try SubDownloader http://www.subdownloader.net/ which will automatically download subtitles for your movies. Jason On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Ali Corbin ali.cor...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Fred James fredj...@fredjame.cnc.net wrote: Looking for any experience or advice concerning adding subtitles to downloaded movies, ON LINUX ... no windows or mac here ... thanks Regards Fred James If you're looking to write the subtitles yourself, then subtitleeditor will scroll the video for you and let you stick the subtitles where they belong. If you've downloaded subtitles that don't quite match the video, then subedit (comes with mplayer) is a command-line tool that allows you to fudge them. Ali ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] free OSCON registration yet?
Well, then I'll be skipping the expo hall, maybe going to OSCON altogether. But thanks for the info. Cheers, Elcaset On 5/14/12, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.com wrote: On 5/11/12 5:01 PM, C W wrote: I just wanted to make sure I haven't missed any deadline for getting a free registration for OSCON 2012. While OSCON as a whole is never free of charge, there are many parts that are, notably the Community Leadership Summit: http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/register/ I see they are now charging $25 (possibly discountable) for the expo hall: https://en.oreilly.com/oscon2012/public/register I hope their experimentation with the formula works out for everyone. Michael ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] free OSCON registration yet?
I just wanted to make sure I haven't missed any deadline for getting a free registration for OSCON 2012. Thanks, Elcaset -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Will Not See eth0
Sounds like a plan, Rich. Cheers, Elcaset On 3/16/12, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, C W wrote: This is a brand new laptop? If so, the hardware way be too new for the right drivers to be included in any distro yet. If it is new, you should try a bleeding edge live distro, like Sabayon, or Fedora. CW, Yes, it's brand new. I'll look for a newer kernel in -current or build a custom one from the latest at kernel.org. Thanks, Rich -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Will Not See eth0
Actually, that's a good suggestion, John. On 3/15/12, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com dijo: Anyone have thoughts to share? If so, please do so. I would try a few live CDs to see if any of them get it working out of the box. Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora are usually the best at getting funny hardware working. If it works with any of them, of course then the task is to try to figure out how they did it. That's the only suggestion my limited networking intellect can come up with. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Will Not See eth0
I recommend the KDE version of Linux Mint. On 3/15/12, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, that's a good suggestion, John. On 3/15/12, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 17:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com dijo: Anyone have thoughts to share? If so, please do so. I would try a few live CDs to see if any of them get it working out of the box. Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora are usually the best at getting funny hardware working. If it works with any of them, of course then the task is to try to figure out how they did it. That's the only suggestion my limited networking intellect can come up with. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Sony Vaio Will Not See eth0
This is a brand new laptop? If so, the hardware way be too new for the right drivers to be included in any distro yet. If it is new, you should try a bleeding edge live distro, like Sabayon, or Fedora. http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=07095 http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1927 On 3/15/12, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, C W wrote: Actually, that's a good suggestion, John. Yes, it is. I booted the xubuntu-11.10 dvd and it kept disconnecting me from the wired network, just like it did on the wireless attempts. Trying 'dmesg | grep eth' yields nothing. I suspect it's defective hardware since it won't connect wirelessly or via Ethernet. Must have a warranty period longer than a month or two. Sigh, Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Mint 9
I have been using the KDE version of Mint 9 since it came out over a year ago, I haven't had any of these problems with it. Maybe the GNOME version of Mint 9 has more bugs? Also, I'm very careful when I burn optical disks to burn that at a slow speed (4x), always have the burning software check for burn errors. I love KDE Mint 9 look forward to using the next long term support KDE Mint (which will probably be Mint 12). Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:17 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 00:37:57 -0800 Marvin Kosmal mkos...@gmail.com dijo: Hi Problem solved. Bad Burns.. I burned a Ubuntu 10.8 here.. Got the same issue as Mint. Boot to a log in screen.. Found a commercial copy of 10.4 ubuntu. It booted and is installing fine. So for some reason the copy burned at Clinic and the copy I burned at home were both unreadable by my CD reader... How strange. Very strange, indeed. I would not find it unbelievable that my CD burner is going bad - the machine is a bit over four years old and I have used the optical drive heavily. So a bad CD from my end is entirely possible. But then you burned a copy at home using your burner and it was unreadable. That makes two bad burners in the mix here. The odds are now getting slimmer. If we had this to do over again I should have just put the ISO image on a USB stick and had you copy it directly onto your hard drive. Then you would have been able to re-burn it using other hardware until you got a readable copy. On the other hand, if I had a buck for every if and shoulda I could buy and sell Bill Gates out of my petty cash drawer. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug HI I need to correct myself.. The bad burn is only in respect to my DVD reader... On another machine, newer, it boots just fine. And I am assuming would install. What we should have tried at the clinic was putting the disk in someone else's computer to see how it acted. We did that with mine. Booted the WIN disk. So we assumed I was clean. I am thinking my reader has issues. Shows you how touchy those readers can be. And how I didn't do much of a job of trouble shooting my own machine. I am still waiting for someone to send me a copy of their Mint sources list. Drop that in there and see if it will change distro and upgrade on the spot.. hehe Thanks for all the help. Marvin ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
We've had continue to have a lot of Comcast service outages where we lose internet, telly, phone. The internet goes out most often, then comes the telly, then the phone service. When we call Comcast about it, they act as if that's normal, want to charge us extra to come fix it! On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: We used Vonage for years and years, but the quality and reliability got really bad so I switched to Comcast VOIP. They use a separate dedicated network, and it's best voice service I've ever had. Tom S. On 10/28/2011 9:21 PM, C W wrote: Scott, Thanks for the feedback. Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality than mobile phone service, so I can live with that. Especially since Ooma's monthly charge is extremely low. How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garmansgar...@zenlinux.com wrote: On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma Anybody here familiar with Ooma? I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am dropping from a conference call. About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run into problems again. Scott ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.920 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3981 - Release Date: 10/28/11 11:44:00 ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
Thanks Neal, very good to hear Ooma is working well for ya. I think I'm going to switch us to Ooma. Also, that info you sent on using the house phone wiring should come in very handy. Cheers, Elcaset On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Neal nsed...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? Same as any other VOIP line. Use the existing house wiring AFTER disconnecting from the external telephone network at the NID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_interface_device http://www.homephonewiring.com/nid.html Open the NID (regular screwdriver required) and unplug what look like short phone cord loopback cables plugged into TEST jacks. This isolates your inside wiring from the phone company. Plug the Ooma / Vonage box into any telephone jack near an internet feed, hook it up to the internet, plug in the power adapter and there ya go, at least in theory. I've had Ooma since Woot ran a special six months ago. Over this time it has worked fairly well, at least as well as the Comcast cable modem service. I think I've only had to power cycle the Ooma box once or twice when it wasn't a Comcast issue. The taxes-only minimum service is missing a couple things I really miss but not enough to upgrade to the $120/year Premier service. The thing I miss most is voicemail email forwarding. NealS ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
Thanks Aaron, everyone else, for the info. I do make calls to Canada on a regular basis. Also, I spend a lot of time on an old-style corded phone with domestic calls from home (way too much time for daytime cell phone minutes). So, if I could make these cisco ATAs work with a free service like Skype (not SIP), or something like Ekiga (which is SIP, but doesn't work well), that would be great for me. Also, once or if I'm convinced that Ooma works well, I will buy that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma Anybody here familiar with Ooma? Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Aaron Burt aa...@bavariati.org wrote: (netiquette note: when starting a new discussion, start a new thread kthx) On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 08:40:30PM -0700, C W wrote: I was given 2 Cisco Analog Telephone Adapters. There are both model 186/188. I'm wondering what I can use them for, if they use SIP? Google sez Cisco sez they're SIP. http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/voice_ip_comm/cata/186_188/2_15/english/administration/guide/sip/SIP88CH1.html You can use them to attach analog phones (e.g. yer typical cordless phone, or even a FAX machine) to an Asterisk server or a VoIP service (such as CallCentric.) If you have a cellphone and don't make or receive international calls from home much, you probably don't have much use for one. Note the international angle: immigrants with internet at home would be well served by someone with ATAs or hardphones and some VoIP knowledge. Currently, they use cheezy calling cards and by-the-minute cellphones. The fact that you can get local numbers in major cities around the world means that their families could call them back cheaply, too. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
Scott, Thanks for the feedback. Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality than mobile phone service, so I can live with that. Especially since Ooma's monthly charge is extremely low. How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.com wrote: On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma Anybody here familiar with Ooma? I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am dropping from a conference call. About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run into problems again. Scott ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
I'm not familiar with callcentric. I'll have to check it out. Although, it's hard to compete with Ooma's monthly rate. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Larry Brigman larry.brig...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, Thanks for the feedback. Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality than mobile phone service, so I can live with that. Especially since Ooma's monthly charge is extremely low. How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? Cheers, Elcaset I have a friend that uses callcentric and wouldn't go to anything else now. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.com wrote: On 10/28/2011 07:12 PM, C W wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ooma Anybody here familiar with Ooma? I switched from Vonage to Ooma this year. Never had any issues with Vonage, but with Ooma I have occasionally had audio quality issues, and even dropped calls. Not fun when I work from home most days and am dropping from a conference call. About a month ago I was considering going back to Vonage, but things have been stable since then, so I'm willing to take the risk until I run into problems again. Scott ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
===If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want. That would be the simplest approach. Well, I do have a 3 handset cordless phone that would work on that, but I prefer to spend most of my phone time on a corded phone. I bet there's a way to fool Ooma into thinking several phones are one phone by lining together all of the phones via couplers long phone cords. If I can do that, that would be great! On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.com wrote: On 10/28/2011 09:21 PM, C W wrote: Scott, Thanks for the feedback. Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality than mobile phone service, so I can live with that. Especially since Ooma's monthly charge is extremely low. Yep, which is why I really would prefer to stick with them if I can. My cost comes to $3.47/mo now. How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want. That would be the simplest approach. Scott ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
oops, I meant to type linking, not lining in the previous post. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: ===If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want. That would be the simplest approach. Well, I do have a 3 handset cordless phone that would work on that, but I prefer to spend most of my phone time on a corded phone. I bet there's a way to fool Ooma into thinking several phones are one phone by lining together all of the phones via couplers long phone cords. If I can do that, that would be great! On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Scott Garman sgar...@zenlinux.comwrote: On 10/28/2011 09:21 PM, C W wrote: Scott, Thanks for the feedback. Ooma's service sounds like it's better quality than mobile phone service, so I can live with that. Especially since Ooma's monthly charge is extremely low. Yep, which is why I really would prefer to stick with them if I can. My cost comes to $3.47/mo now. How expensive and difficult is it to add several phones in the same house to one Ooma line? If you have a cordless phone setup with several handsets, you can plug your base station into the Ooma and have as many handsets as you want. That would be the simplest approach. Scott ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] usefulness of Cisco 186/188 ATA phone adapters, Ooma
Yes, that's the same situation I'm in. Except that I'm in Kirkland, near Seattle. That's how we get screwed when Comcast bundles things. However, once I get a voip setup to my family's liking, I'm getting rid of Comcast altogether. We are looking for an ISP, telly service provider, as well. I'm happy to just use free over-the-air digital telly with antennas, but the rest of the family is hooked on certain cable channels. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net wrote: Gah! I want to quit using Comcast for my landline. But when I call them to check out pricing, I find that my cable bill will go UP if I discontinue telephone service. What a racket! Russell Johnson r...@dimstar.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu release party Sat night.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:27 PM, Ali Corbin ali.cor...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:40 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net wrote: I have used Gnome all my Linux life, originally on Ubuntu and now on Fedora. I have KDE installed, but every time I try it I find it not to my taste. However, Fedora 15 came out with Gnome 3, and from what I have seen on the live CD I am not going to like it at all. I am still running Fedora 14 so as not to have to deal with Gnome 3, but soon I will be semi-forced to upgrade, as Fedora only supports the current and one release back, and Fedora 16 will be coming out soon. I am planning on spending some time in KDE to see if I can tweak it to my liking. Hint: I hate icons and I want my desktop utterly clear, not even wallpaper. I'm the opposite. I've used KDE forever, even on redhat/fedora/RHEL/CentOS distros, where the default was always gnome. For a while I'd try gnome after each upgrade, but always find something that I couldn't configure to my liking and switch back to KDE. Then came KDE4, with lots of bells and whistles. I managed, with the help of google, to remove the icons from my desktop. But I couldn't get rid of these little translucent nutty cashew thingies, and if I accidentally clicked on one then odd things would happen. And I could no longer configure the keyboard the way I wanted. In KDE! So I bailed. Back to gnome, but only until I'd installed lxde on the box. Now I'm a happy camper again. Ali ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug I love KDE3 KDE4, icons don't bother me. I've tried many different Desktop Environments Window Managers since 1999. KDE is the one that works well makes sense to me. Of course, there are plenty of other people who feel the same way. I run into them daily, online. Cheers, Elcaset -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any comments on SLAX?
Richard, Unfortunately, the Slax distro is no longer maintained. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=slax But, the good news is that Porteus GNU/Linux takes over where Slax left off. I have used the 32-bit version of Porteus. It's small, extremely fast, works quite well, is much easier to use than Slackware proper I enjoy it. Like Slax, it is meant to be used live, not installed. http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=porteus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porteus_(operating_system)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porteus_%28operating_system%29 Cheers, Elcaset On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Rich Shepard rshep...@appl-ecosys.comwrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Richard Owlett wrote: On a language related forum I asked for recommendation of a small distro that would be attractive to users of that forum. Slackware was one recommended, though I'd hardly call it small ;/ A Google search then gave SLAX as being Slackware based. Slackware can be as thin as you want. When you install it you can select the packages to install. It supports older hardware well, too. Rich ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] open source IP hard phones?
I was given 2 Cisco Analog Telephone Adapters. There are both model 186/188. I'm wondering what I can use them for, if they use SIP? I'll either be using them in a simple setup here at home, or I'll donate them to Free Geek Seattle for their phone system. I am one of the main people starting Free Geek Seattle. Thanks very much On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Aaron Burt aa...@bavariati.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 04:44:29PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote: I want an open source IP hard phone. The furniture is moved. I'm back to working on Asterisk. snip Congratulations! For example, controlling the response to button presses. I'd like the option of the phone sending IP messages to Asterisk rather than making voice channel beeps, or navigating some preprogrammed response chain in the phone. Hm. Most of the hardphones I worked with were somewhat flexible. But I was working with Aastra and Snom phones. I think they were sending SIP messages for the button presses. But they really are programmable terminals, each one different, with programmability confined within the bounds that the vendor chose. A lot like the Smart terminals of yore. I suspect that the Ciscos are designed to act a lot like your standard office desk phone, with a few dedicated-function keys for transfer/redial etc. and a few line keys. Rule #1 of successful office IT: make it shiny and new, but DON'T CHANGE A THING. :) So get your transfer key working and give 'em voicemail and hold, and hold off on the improvements. I know that you know how important it is to do a first-class job for this particular client. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any comments on SLAX?
Yes, but Porteus is still maintained, it is IMHO, a great distro.
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@pcnetinc.comwrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Rich Shepard wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011, Richard Owlett wrote:
On a language related forum I asked for recommendation of a small
distro
that would be attractive to users of that forum. Slackware was one
recommended, though I'd hardly call it small ;/ A Google search then
gave
SLAX as being Slackware based.
Slackware can be as thin as you want. When you install it you can
select
the packages to install. It supports older hardware well, too.
Rich
Well, to paraphrase Bard upon Avon:
To acquire thinly or install thinly, THAT is the question.
{I've got a English professor groaning very loudly ;}
I was irritated by the excessive size of Debian/Ubuntu Live
Distros at ~1 600+ MB CD. store.slackware.com shows
Slackware as a *6 CD* set.
Now I have to admit that if I went the Debian and/or Ubuntu
route, I might ask how much of the respective repositories
would be available on CD. I *AM* on dial-up :)
THAT was the attraction of SLAX - the _apparent_ opportunity
to ONLY download what I would use. Having just spent ~1 hour
browsing the SLAX website, I'm not so certain of that reality.
As I was writing above, Elcaset pointed out SLAX wAs no
longer maintained :
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Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu release party Sat night.
Speaking of Unity/GNOME 3, don't forget that KDE 4 is much faster than GNOME 3 (with or without Unity). From what I've seen, most people (myself included) find KDE 4 to be more intuitive user friendly than Unity. Will there be any Kubuntu representation at the Ubuntu release party? I live near Seattle, so I won't be able to make it there to promote KDE myself. Cheers, Elcaset On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.comwrote: Scott I just learned that there will be an Ubuntu release party at Scott Backspace Saturday evening, with free t-shirts even: Sounds like an opportunity for Unity haters to picket! ;-) Occupy Unity? :) Michael ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SOLVED Re: Reconfigure Gingerbread or Reconfigure Wireless Router
This entire thread would not have been necessary if I had placed a sticker on the WRT54G at the time of setting it up with its IP address and some clues as to how it was set up. Lesson learned. So, if you reset the wrt54g, then it should reset ALL of its settings back to how it was when it was new in the box. This should clear up all of your issues. Elcaset On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 8:45 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2011 06:13:28 -0700 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: Wouldn't your setup work a lot better if you use one router, instead of two? Use your wired router, then configure your WRT54G to act as an access point, instead of a router. Also, You can unplug the power from the acess point when your not using it, if you want. This is what I do at home it works very well for my family I. I know that I tried to do this when I originally set it up, but there was some really important, now forgotten, reason for not setting it up as an access point. My dim recollection is that there was a problem with the WRT54G. I recall calling Limksys/Cisco and their tech support people had me update the firmware, but we couldn't get it to work as an access point. This entire thread would not have been necessary if I had placed a sticker on the WRT54G at the time of setting it up with its IP address and some clues as to how it was set up. Lesson learned. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SOLVED Re: Reconfigure Gingerbread or Reconfigure Wireless Router
Wouldn't your setup work a lot better if you use one router, instead of two? Use your wired router, then configure your WRT54G to act as an access point, instead of a router. Also, You can unplug the power from the acess point when your not using it, if you want. This is what I do at home it works very well for my family I. Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:48 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:11:23 -0700 Neal nsed...@gmail.com dijo: I believe there's a separate checkbox to enable management from a WLAN connection on one of the configuration pages. Try hooking the cable back up to the laptop and accessing it at 192.168.0.x. If that won't work there's also a checkbox for HTTPS and/or HTTPS only management connection. Where are these checkboxes you refer to? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] SOLVED Re: Reconfigure Gingerbread or Reconfigure Wireless Router
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:13 AM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Wouldn't your setup work a lot better if you use one router, instead of two? Use your wired router, then configure your WRT54G to act as an access point, instead of a router. Also, You can unplug the power from the acess point when your not using it, if you want. This is what I do at home it works very well for my family I. Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 5:48 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:11:23 -0700 Neal nsed...@gmail.com dijo: I believe there's a separate checkbox to enable management from a WLAN connection on one of the configuration pages. Try hooking the cable back up to the laptop and accessing it at 192.168.0.x. If that won't work there's also a checkbox for HTTPS and/or HTTPS only management connection. Where are these checkboxes you refer to? ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm Also, since you can't get into your wrt54g, it's easy to reset it to default settings. This eliminates your password problem. -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Reconfigure Gingerbread or Reconfigure Wireless Router
JJJ, Unless you have spent a lot of time customizing the settings on your router, i would recommend resetting your router to factory default. Then you can enter a new longer password for your router. To reset your WRT54G, press a pencil or whatever will fit into the reset button behind the router, kepp that button pressed in. Then power up your router. I think it takes a good 30 seconds or so before it rests. Then remove the pencil use the default password to set up your router. Default is something like admin then blank space for password. It can be found through a search engine like https://www.startpage.com. Cheers, Elcaset On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:12 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: My new Samsung Galaxy S2 comes with Gingerbread, 2.3.4. My Linksys WRT54G router is set to 192.168.0.103. It is connected to a port on my ethernet switch. Everything in the house is connected by ethernet; the only purpose of the WRT54G is to provide wifi for the phone. My previous phone ran Android 2.2.1. It had no problem seeing and connecting to the WRT54G. The SGS2 can see it and knows that it is secured, but it cannot connect because some idiot decided that passwords must be at least eight characters long, and the password I set on the WRT54G is seven characters long. When I type the password into the phone the Connect button remains grayed out until I enter at least eight characters. I must figure out a way to change the behavior of Gingerbread, or I must reset the password on the WRT54G. The latter would probably be much easier. I feel I should also locate the person responsible for deciding that passwords must be at least eight digits long and make sure they never have offspring. But that will have to wait for another day. That is, I thought that changing the password on the WRT54G would be easy. Opening a web browser page and trying to connect to http://192.168.0.103 results in problem loading page. This happens even from my laptop and even when the laptop is connected to the WRT54G via the laptop's own wireless hardware. That is, I can't connect to the web-based configuration page for the WRT54G whether the laptop is connected via ethernet, via its wireless to the WRT54G, or via both. I could use some clues. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Test
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 1:32 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 23:49:17 -0400 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: yep, it's workin. Allow me to apologize for the test messages. I have been having a devil of a time getting my Android phone to send a message to the PLUG list. The native app and the most popular alternative, K9 mail, send the message from johnxj at comcast dot net, but prepend the Google address required on Android phones, which the PLUG mail server refuses to accept. I also tried Xfinity, a Comcast Android app, but it checks mail every hour and the Manual option is broken. So now I am using Maildroid, and it appears that I finally have a mail app that works correctly. Crossing fingers. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm = Not a problem, JJJ. Once Intel Google get a version of Android for x86 working well (they're working on that right now), I will be installing it on my Canadian ExoPC tablet alongside Meego. Then I'll be trying Android applications, as well. Good Luck, Elcaset ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Test
yep, it's workin. On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:19 PM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: Test Sent from my android device. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any Linux compatible alternative?
and knowing is half the battle! Elcaset On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 17:14 -0700, C W wrote: maybe k9copy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9copy Thank you, this looks like it will work. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Any Linux compatible alternative?
maybe k9copy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K9copy On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Slysoft puts out AnyDVD and AnyDVD HD. This package will only work for 21 days and it requires Windows XP or newer. Yikes! What's worse, the purchase price is over $100. There is something called DeCSS, but I guess this is old and whether or not there is a Linux version is not clear. Is there anything newer that works in Linux? Commercial is okay if the price is reasonable. Slysoft appears to have the best software for this, is this true? Technically it is supposedly illegal to play DVDs on a Linux box because of digital restrictions management and the DMCA. This affects us all where I hope people are working to redress this. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Copy protection question...
While I don't have an answer to the technical part of your question, I applaud your viewpoint on DRM. DRM is a scourge on this planet needs to be fought. Apple is one of the worst offenders when it comes to Digital Resrictions Management, with many other companies close behind. Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm Cheers, Elcaset On 8/30/11, Michael C. Robinson plu...@robinson-west.com wrote: Does anyone know what kind of copy protection is employed by a VHS copy of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory 25th Anniversary Edition? The GREX can't handle it whatever it is. Another movie giving me trouble is Star Trek First Contact. For another example of a problematic movie, there is Alice in Wonderland, the animated one by Disney. Considering I have a right to play these tapes privately as many times as I want on as many VCRs as I want, it stands to reason that I should be allowed to copy them to a personal DVD or to a personal computer. As long as I don't give away or sell the copies, these are just backups in more convenient formats. Though I am trying to save space, I am keeping the original VHS tapes for proof of purchase. A computer with a large hard drive is easier to work with than a pile of DVDs or a pile of VHS tapes, so there is a convenience issue as well as a space issue. VCRs are going away, so there is an issue of losing access to this media entirely if something isn't done. Is there any way to hook a VCR up to a Linux system directly to get around copy protection schemes that the GREX doesn't handle? Macrovision isn't the only scheme in widespread use. I think the VHS DVD combo recorder that I have, which I am feeding video to via component jacks, GREX in the feed, from an external VCR, is getting anti copy codes from some tapes. This suggests a scheme(s) that the GREX is not designed to handle. I need to know whether the undefeated scheme(s) are video or audio schemes. I also need to know if there are reasonably priced hardware devices that defeat them. Barring a hardware solution, is there a Linux compatible software solution? Out of about 100 tapes, I have maybe 10 that didn't copy. Is there any way to fight industry use of anti copying technology? One of the reasons to stay away from Windows 7, digital restrictions management. I have heard horror stories of people not being allowed to access their own personal movies. The industry by and large has the computers belonging to most people wasting CPU cycles to determine whether or not they should be permitted to view a particular media source. This in my opinion is not what most people buy a computer for. If more people knew what Windows 7 is doing and they knew about Linux which is DRM free, I bet there would be more Linux users. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
Good idea, Denis. I will call them. Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtm...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:51 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Denis, I'll check out the park-and-ride at the Sunset Transit Center. My only concern would be car break-ins. In Seattle the surrounding areas, park-and-rides have the highest rates of car break-ins car theft compared to anywhere else. I imagine Portland also has that problem, at least to some extent. Cheers, Elcaset I have not heard of the problem, but I bet TriMet security could give you some statistics. -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
Lloyd Center MAX looks worth a try. If I can find out when the Lloyd Center parking lot is closed at night (probably about a half hour after the mall closes), then that might work. Otherwise, I could probably move my car at roughly 19:00 (whenever the street parking meters stop) from mall parking to nearby on-the-street parking, or on-the-street parking by the convention center. Thanks for all the help, folks. Much appreciated. I enjoy challenges of this sort. Cheers, Elcaset On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:48 PM, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 20:10 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 19:04:39 -0700 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: I'm wondering what the parking situation is like at near the convention center for OSCON. I assume during the day, there is no free parking on the nearby streets. Maybe there's some parking within a mile or so? The Free Rail Zone extends to the Lloyd Center, and a couple stops later you're at the Convention Center. The Lloyd Center is free parking and there's no way for them to know that you're not shopping. The couple of times I tried that (parking in the lot by the movieplex just south of the main Lloyd Center building), someone actually drove around and checked, asked me as I got out of my car. If they've stopped checking, that's helpful info. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
Thanks Denis, I'll check out the park-and-ride at the Sunset Transit Center. My only concern would be car break-ins. In Seattle the surrounding areas, park-and-rides have the highest rates of car break-ins car theft compared to anywhere else. I imagine Portland also has that problem, at least to some extent. Cheers, Elcaset On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtm...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:22 PM, C W elcas...@gmail.com wrote: Lloyd Center MAX looks worth a try. If I can find out when the Lloyd Center parking lot is closed at night (probably about a half hour after the mall closes), then that might work. Otherwise, I could probably move my car at roughly 19:00 (whenever the street parking meters stop) from mall parking to nearby on-the-street parking, or on-the-street parking by the convention center. Thanks for all the help, folks. Much appreciated. I enjoy challenges of this sort. Cheers, Elcaset There is a park-and-ride at the Sunset Transit Center which fills up at commuting times, but is very available in the evenings. I do not know if there are other park-and-ride locations more convenient for you, but Sunset is not too far. I will likely park my bike there for Oscon. -Denis ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
I'm wondering what the parking situation is like at near the convention center for OSCON. I assume during the day, there is no free parking on the nearby streets. Maybe there's some parking within a mile or so? Thanks, Elcaset -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] parking at/near OSCON
Thanks the info Mike. I'd like to take MAX Tri-Met, but the buses that go out to Multnomah Village area stop running at about 21:30! So, If I go to any of the OSCON-related parties, that won't work. I just remembered, there is a Tri-Met bus that runs late at night along Barbur Blvd that is within a mile of where I'm staying in Multnomah. I might end up trying that. Does anybody have a sense of how sketchy the area surrounding the convention center is for car break-ins? Thanks, Elcaset On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:29 PM, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 19:04 -0700, C W wrote: I'm wondering what the parking situation is like at near the convention center for OSCON. I assume during the day, there is no free parking on the nearby streets. Maybe there's some parking within a mile or so? If I go for a short time, I may park on Grand, where it's $1/hr, last I checked. When I've gone for a full day, I either take Max or bite the $8/day bullet. Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free Stuff at OSCON, including the Expo Hall!
Um, OSCON starts in a week. Can anybody help with this thread? Thanks very much. Cheers, Elcaset On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:55 AM, John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.netwrote: On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 04:27:10 -0700 C W elcas...@gmail.com dijo: Thanks, Michael for the discount code EXPOPASS. Can we use it at the door when getting in to these various functions, or must we use it now, somewhere on the web to sign up? I already signed up, weeks ago, for free access to the Expo Hall only. This what they sent me. snip The EXPOPASS discount code seems to cover a lot more of the convention. Do you know how I can change my registration to include the EXPOPASS code? Thanks very much for your help. Ditto this question. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free Stuff at OSCON, including the Expo Hall!
-At the top of the page that Michael linked to, it says, Register with discount code EXPOPASS to get a free Expo Hall pass, which gets you access to all this: You already have an Expo Hall pass. So you have access to all that.- Thanks for the clarification, Aaron. Sounds good. Hopefully, I'll meet some of you there. I am one of the people starting Free Geek Seattle. Cheers, Elcaset On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Aaron Burt aa...@bavariati.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 04:27:10AM -0700, C W wrote: Thanks, Michael for the discount code EXPOPASS. Can we use it at the door when getting in to these various functions, or must we use it now, somewhere on the web to sign up? At the top of the page that Michael linked to, it says, Register with discount code EXPOPASS to get a free Expo Hall pass, which gets you access to all this: You already have an Expo Hall pass. So you have access to all that. As someone who runs intranet-ish stuff, the SugarCRM talk looks interesting. Ignite! is a fine way to start an evening of beer and brainy talk. The BOFs look excellent. ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Free Stuff at OSCON, including the Expo Hall!
Thanks, Michael for the discount code EXPOPASS. Can we use it at the door when getting in to these various functions, or must we use it now, somewhere on the web to sign up? I already signed up, weeks ago, for free access to the Expo Hall only. This what they sent me. == PACKAGE INFORMATION == You are registered for Expo Hall Only. You get access to the conference from: Tuesday Evening, July 26 - Thursday, July 28 Your registration package grants you access to: * All OSCON Products Services Sessions (Wed-Thu) * Expo Hall (Tue PM-Thu) * All Evening Events Please note, your pass does not grant you access OSCON Java, OSCON Data, OSCON Sessions, OSCON Keynotes, OSCON Tutorials, Node Day or the IT Leadership Summit. The EXPOPASS discount code seems to cover a lot more of the convention. Do you know how I can change my registration to include the EXPOPASS code? Thanks very much for your help. Cheers, Elcaset On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Michael Dexter dex...@ambidexter.comwrote: Hello all, Sorry, that last message when off early. There were concerns at the last PLUG meeting that O'Reilly would be charging to access the Expo Hall at OSCON. Not if you use the discount code: EXPOPASS Here's a list of what's free this year: http://www.oscon.com/oscon2011/public/content/free The Expo Hall featuring 60+ exhibitors All sessions in the OSCON Products Services track All sessions in the OSCON Data Products Services track All sessions in the OSCON Java Products Services track Building An Application On The SugarCRM Platform Tutorial (sponsored by SugarCRM) happening on Tuesday, July 26 Birds of a Feather Sessions, informal after-hours sessions organized by attendees, and a great chance to meet and work with like-minded people Ignite OSCON, our high-energy fast-paced technology show-and-tell Opening Reception - Grab a drink and mingling with exhibitors and fellow attendees OSCON Carnival - Join us for food, drinks, entertainment, and lots of good old fashioned fun Puppet Labs Party at their headquarters in Portland's Pearl District. OpenStack Party Surprise Attendee Event on Wednesday evening (sorry, we can't tell you anything else about this event because it's a secret) Booth Crawl where you can quench your thirst with vendor-hosted libations and snacks while you check out all the cool stuff in the expo hall. Larry Wall's annual State of the Onion and the popular Perl Lightning Talks Media Temple Party at the Jupiter Hotel with open bar, music, and all you can eat tacos! The hallway track - OSCON's hallways have been the birthplace of many ideas and collaborations. The hallway track, as we like to call it, is one of the best parts of OSCON. PLUS... the Community Leadership Summit the Saturday and Sunday before: http://www.communityleadershipsummit.com/ See you there! Michael ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Google searches redirecting
I've had had much better results with Firefox. Firefiox wins for reliability anonymity. Maybe someday Chromium, or Chrome will catch up. Cheers, Elcaset On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Bruce Kilpatrick kd7...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/12/2011 08:03 PM, Daniel Herrington wrote: All, Don't know how this happened, but recently when searching on google I would put in a word (after an initial search query and a returned listing), say foo, and then hold the right shift key to start a double quote, and google would flash something under the search box and then redirect to the default google search page. It drove me absolutely insane because the message flashed too quickly to read and then the redirect would occur. I'd be in the middle of typing in my query and, BAM! back to the search page. I googled for the problem and nothing came up. I'm running Chrome 11.0.696.71, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Anyone else seen this behavior. You simply need to search for something like foo on the default search page, then when the query returns, select in the search field and hit the space bar. Then hit the right shift key and hold for a second or two, then the redirect occurred. I finally was fast enough to do a screen capture and read the message Google instant is unavailable. Press enter to search. Learn more. I disabled google instant search and the problem went away. Has anyone else seen or can replicate this behavior, or did a fubar something on my machine. thanks, Nothing happened here using Ubuntu Natty and Firefox 4.01 Bruce ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] Last chance to register for OSCON Exhibit Hall for free
OK. Thanx. Cheers, Elcaset On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Russell Senior russ...@personaltelco.netwrote: C == C W elcas...@gmail.com writes: C When you say sign up for the exhibit hall, are you only referring C to folks who are setting up a table there, or just admittance? Just admittance. There is, I'm told, a rather long waiting list for setting up tables. Personal Telco is on the waiting list. -- Russell Senior, President russ...@personaltelco.net ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
Re: [PLUG] USENIX Conferences Week in Portland,OR June 14-17
Hi Mike, I don't know. Peter Mui is the guy to contact about USENIX. His email is: p...@usenix.org. Cheers, Chad On 6/5/11, MJang m...@linuxexam.com wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 16:00 -0700, C W wrote: Howdy everybody, My friend Peter Mui is promoting the Usenix Convention happening in PDX soon, I wanted to get the word out to PLUG anybody else interested in attending Usenix. Let me know if I should post this to other lists, as well. Dear elcaset, Are there any discounts available to user groups, or do you need to be a USENIX member? Thanks, Mike ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
[PLUG] USENIX Conferences Week in Portland,OR June 14-17
Howdy everybody, My friend Peter Mui is promoting the Usenix Convention happening in PDX soon, I wanted to get the word out to PLUG anybody else interested in attending Usenix. Let me know if I should post this to other lists, as well. Thanks very much, elcaset Invitation to attend: USENIX Federated Conferences Week contact: Peter Mui p...@usenix.orghttp://us.mc365.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=p...@usenix.org Our annual technical conference -- and so much more! Join us in Portland OR, June 15-17, 2011, for USENIX Federated Conferences Week. As with all of our conferences, the breadth and quality of this year's tutorials, refereed papers, invited talks, and participants is excellent. The 2011 USENIX Federated Conferences Week agenda includes: - WebApps '11: 2nd USENIX Conference on Web Application Development - HotCloud '11: 3rd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Cloud Computing - HotStorage '11: 3rd USENIX Workshop on Hot Topics in Storage and File Systems - WIOV '11: 3rd Workshop on I/O Virtualization - Tutorial: Securing Linux Servers - Tutorial: SELinux (Security-Enhanced Linux) - Tutorial: VMware vCloud Overview and Design Considerations - Tutorial: Linux Performance Tuning - Tutorial: SANS Security 464: Hacker Detection for Systems Administrators - Tutorial: Introduction to Automating System Administration with Cfengine 3 and, of course - USENIX ATC '11: 2011 USENIX Annual Technical Conference (For details go to: http://www.usenix.org/fcw11/progm) Whether you're interested in the latest systems computing breakthroughs or want to get the low-down on Web application development, you'll get everything you need to stay ahead of the curve. -- WHAT: USENIX Federated Conferences Week WHEN: June 15-17, 2011 WHERE: Portland OR: Marriott Downtown Waterfront HOW: Register NOW at http://www.usenix.org/fcw11/progm -- = -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm -- Free Geek Seattle- Helping The Needy Get Nerdy http://www.freegeekseattle.org/ https://groups.google.com/group/freegeek-seattle/topics?hl=en K Desktop Environment- Experience Freedom User Friendliness http://kde.org/ Free Lossless Audio Codec https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Flac Protect your digital freedom and privacy, eliminate DRM, learn more at http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm ___ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
